What went wrong?

I'm just waiting for either Normal Reedus or Kojima to get caught with hard drugs.

Im not too familiar wih the whole Konami and Kojima rivalry but didnt the MGS series turn a decent profit despite the amount of time and effort that was used for them?

Greed

Pachinko makes them less money than you'd think, mobile and Yu-Gi-Oh is where the money's at.
So people don't get confused, Gaming is slot machines and such for markets outside Japan, Amusement is pachinko and arcade games (they're split about 50/50 in revenue), Digital Entertainment is everything else.

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Konami's problem was that MGS5 took such a long time to be made and costed lots of money at Konami.

Yeah, I've also heard that SNK Playmore wasn't so successful with panchiko.

But didnt the conflict begin even before that?

Yes, but so did Resident Evil. RE6 sold a shitload...and was still a failure because of how inflated it's budget was.

MGSV started development in 2010. It was taking so long, Konami had to take a hunk of it out to sell in 2014 to make profit back. TPP was released the next year...and was barely 2/3rds of the way done.

And the budget at that point was already over $80million.

Dunno but MGS5 was the finishing touch for them.

No. He was the fucking vice president of digital entertainment.

Im never getting another Frogger am I

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Pull a Capcom... and actually succed at it.

Sounds like a regular Sony exclusive game to me fag

Do they not have actual dev teams anymore?

They trusted Kojima to make a profit after MGS 3. Now they're focusing on safer revenue sources while Kojima sucks Sony dry.

>Sounds like a regular Sony exclusive game to me fag
First of all, Sony literally has money for burning (especially with them not paying taxes) and they have many other businesses besides games. Secondly, name me a Sony game that was in development hell and costed too much money at Sony.

>missing the point
user...I

Fun fact:
If Kojima wanted to re-sign with Konami he would still be at the company. Konami was never sick of Kojima 'wasting millions'. The reason Kojima left was because he did not want to work on mobile games.

>konami trashed all their franchises long ago MGS is just the latest
>REEEEEEEEE ITS KOJIMAS FAULT HE BANKRUPTED THEM SO NOW THEY HAVE TO RECOUP ON GAMBLE MACHINES HES A HACK RRREEEEEEEEE

Yakuza.

WTF happened to Contra? 21st century Contra, God Damn it!!!

This but unironically.

Both Konami and Kojima are at fault, faggot.

>Kojima was one of the men in charge of deciding what games get developed while vice president
>turns out it ends up being only Lords of Shadow and MGS before he leaves
>both series he worked on

GEE I WONDER.

Also, funfact, a shitload of KojiPro people are still at Konami. Including a big hunk of the staff for the original Rising.

Let's talk about their Redemption Arc, is there any talented developer still working for them to make it possible?

They keep making smartphone games/ports/remakes/whatever (mostly for the Asian market). At some point they wanted to make a reboot for the Call of Duty audience but fortunately they dropped this idea.

WELL. The man who created Zone of the Enders is still at Konami.

No user Konami make plenty of dough either way, they just got a new president who wanted to move away from AAA development completely at the time. They're just greedy and want to maximize profits, they don't care about the art. They didn't know what they had and they'll look retarded when DS comes out and is GOTD.

Not even remotely a chance, they simply don't have the weight. The only weight they have in videogames comes only from a couple games (Castlevania, Bomberman). And that's it.

>"B-B-But what about YGO?"

Which decade, 2030

Even if there was there's no way Konami is getting a redemption arc. All of the focus has been put on mobile games since they make loads of money with little effort (the PawaPro one in particular). MGS5 was their last attempt at making AAA titles and after how troubled the development for it was they got completely turned off from console games except for PES and low-effort remasters. They were willing to give the Switch a chance with Super Bomberman R, but it didn't meet expectations so those plans were cancelled.

And? Kojima made Konami a shitload of money on MGSV. It made its' entire budget back on the day it was released.
Ground Zeroes was released to keep buzz alive for MGSV not because they were worried about money. Ground Zeroes was released before Golden Week so everyone in Japan would have a chance to play it. Saying that MGSV is not 'finished' is absurd. All because it didn't have the Lord of the Flies chapter? I wonder what people would think if they never knew that existed at all?

The Switch is getting Hyper Sports R and the Anniversary sets. Bomberman still gets updates on the Switch too, despite an Xbone and PS4 release being a thing.

Nothing. Everything is going according to plan.

No. Because the game is unfinished.

There's LOADS of unfinished arcs. Chapter 2 is mostly just HARD MODE missions, and ofcourse the Lord of the Flies shit is the cherry on top.

But hey, at least Quiet got a finished arc. Gotta let people know that Kojima's cumdump was worth the money.

By the way, Kojima admitted the game wasn't near finished. Only Konami says it's a finished product.

The game is unfinished. The gameplay itself shows it, Still a good game and the best of its year.

>Ground Zeroes = Demo/Episode 1
>TPP = Main event
>??? = Epilogue = Chapter 3

Ultra, Konami, Capcom, SNK, and Enix used to be that you could buy a game from any of them and know that you were going to be happy with what you bought. Times change. Now you really don't know what to expect. A company now is only as good as its' newest game. People just don't give a fuck about anything unless it is the newest. No one gives a fuck about some old game! That game came out three years ago! It's shit! I kind of hate it.

Apparently they won
New Silent hill never ever

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At least PES is still better than FIFA

pachingo

>nobody ever mentions the kino quarantine mission or the truth tapes when discussing chapter 2
I hate you all

Yu-gi-oh is their Pokémon
A retarded money printer

Yes but not really
Basically Only the Yu-hi-oh team is left

All the Truth tapes so is make MGS4 trivial.

Oh and RUIN MGS FUCKING 3.

They stopped making Yugioh games the goddamn bitches

Fuck I completely forgot about bomberman on Switch

No they don't. They give interesting context and great dialogue between Skull Face and Zero.

Aren't Pachinko slowly dying?

We live and die by your orders, boss

Yugioh games only appeal to casuals that don't play the game. People the play the card game use YGOPro and DuelingBook. Konami knows this. It's why Lightpulsar Dragon had its effect changed to make it miss timing.

>Pachinko dying
Slowly but unless the gambling laws in japan change they’ll surf that dwindling Pachinko money for years

Every single one of those companies has released horrible turds during their "golden ages". Times didn't change, you just became a bitch.

Which render their move useless in the long run.

It was a nice recreation of killing the Boss at the end of MGS3. I found it to be harder to pull the trigger on my soldier. I hand picked this out of thousands. He was the best of the best. And now do to my negligence, I must kill him. STOP FUCKING SALUTING ME! FUCK!

I also loved the scientist who managed to figure out the problem at the end as well

They're releasing one on the Switch soon.

MGS5 earned over $150mil on day one.
Konami have made a fucking fortune from Kojima.

I bet it's only Duel Links. Fuck you, you made me believe it was a legit new game for a second.

Pachinko
Though I guess its really just them going with what makes them the most money. Which is gambling and not Castlevania

Yu-Gi-Oh! Legacy of the Duelist: Link Evolution

Konami chink shills are still using Kojima as boogeyman. He's been gone for years and Konami is now doing worse than ever.

It was a far better bet that if you bought a game with the Ultra or Capcom logo on it back in the NES days that you were going to get a better game. Faggot.
They are still supplying Vegas with machines the deal they made is incredibly lucrative, even if the law didn't break their way. Shinzo Abe and his cabinet passed the law on March 29th Konami wants Japan to be seen as the Vegas of the east. Their plan is to become second only to Las Vegas when it comes to gambling. 2024 and Osaka becomes a complete shit fest.

Basically nothing

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Within MGSV budget was also a highly flexible and optimized engine perfect for current-gen multiplat development. Kojima gave them gold and they still spat him in the face in favor Pachinko gambling bucks.

If the fault was on Kojima, Sony would not have sought him out with a blank check. Meanwhile Konami has literally no developers of note left. Not. Even. One.

Sony gives David Cage money.

Another failure for them then, Japan is more close to treat gambling addiction as a serious disease. China or South Korea are far better in that regard.

sony kept sony pictures running after it posted a billion dollar loss

This, Fox engine being wasted by doing nothing in perspective with it is a real tragedy.

I see no issues here besides Sony's desires to waste money in stuff not worth.

And Detroit was a hit game that has a good reputation in its niche genre.

Explain to me why Konami doesn't have a single dev of note left? Was it maybe Kojima's fault aswell, chink?

Konami makes far more money with other enterprises user. And in 2024 they are going to be sitting pretty. Good luck to anyone leaving Konami getting health insurance. Fuck Kimihiko Higashio.

Yeah, because at his tenure as VP, all he would fucking fund were his own games.

They can make money exploiting weak people all they like. They are evil.

Look at all those games Konami is making with him gone!

Literally kill yourself subhuman shill.

More than the last three years of him at the company.

Nope. Konami isn't doing shit now. They even killed MGS with Survive. They have nothing left.

The same amount actually

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>Remake of Snake eater and Sons of Liberty on Fox engine never
everything hurts

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>No Fox Engine games
>Monopoly of UE forever
Forever mad

KojiPro could've done wonders with Fox not bound to old PS3/360. Shame we never got to see ZoE3.

The Fox Engine is ridiculously low impact for what it can do. I'm honestly surprised that Konami haven't leased it out.

Konami didn’t do anything wrong per se. there’s was a big gaming recessions in the late aughts where everyone was simultaneously chasing Call of Duty money by outsourcing their IPs to the west (Castlevania and Silent Hill in Konami’s case) and investing in mobile games. The result was that most of the talents in Japan left the studios and there was nobody left to make good, real games.

Over the past couple of years we’ve seen the likes of SEGA and Capcom finally recover, but Konami didn’t want to bleed money by having shitty westerners tarnish their IPs any further, so they decided to try to invest in the markets they were more confident in.

If anything, I think they made the smart decision when it comes to survival of the company and now they can slowly build up their Japan studios if they want and make a strong comeback into video games any time they want.

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Did any of you fuckers actually buy hard corps uprising? I swear to god it's an absolute monster of a contra game and it feels like it sold under 10k or some shit with how little I ever hear about it.

even if it was never finished
the hype ride was the real journey for me
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The creative minds behind their franchises left due to poor treatment and restricting their creativity. Also they are ran by people who know nothing about games and don’t care so long as their yakuza overlords pockets are fat with cash from pathetic addicted pachishit gamblers.

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I think the precise moment they lost their soul was when they announced God of War: Castlevania edition, and brutally murdered the actual franchise.

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everyone’s favorite Japanese stoner dude made a frogger 3D that was pretty fun.

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Yakuza took over and now Konami only exists as a front to exploit the Pachinko gambling business.

LoS was a decent game on its own. However it's obvious Bloodborne is what a true 3D Castlevania game should've been. But Konami didn't have the talent to pull it off internally.

Norman Reedus is alcoholic so he doesn't need hard drugs, he got booze.

Konami still is the biggest maker of slot machines. If you’re ever in a casino, you’ll notice all those machines say Konami on them.

ironically to this thread it was kojima that got los the castlevania name

The game didnt even have an engine until 2017 though. Before then it was just fancy CGI trailers and crazy ideas scribbled on napkins cluttering Kojima's desk.

And guess what? All his games turned out a profit and were critically acclaimed.

How long do you think Kojima's NDA with Konami is set to last for?

It's probably gonna take longer than a FOIA request for the Air Force to disclose operations on Area 51.

Why do people forget about Yugioh? It's literally the biggest card game in the world.

>Sales minus budget equals profit!

Have you considered stuff like you know

staff salary

Because it's the most power creep heavy card game played by super autitsts. more so than any other tcg.

Hardly anybody plays it anymore. They make all the money from just a few cash cows that spend all their money on pulling new packs. Its sustained by the people who haven't been playing it since it came out and can't bring themselves to stop.

>Hardly anybody plays it anymore.
Tournaments are literally getting bigger every year.

>staff salary is not part of the budget
Get a load of this guy.

So 8 years?

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What are the odds that the documents have fake information? The only people who can disprove it are CIA.

>what engine does PES use
this, it's not always a case of whether someone just makes money at what they do. if they're difficult to work with or aren't making as much profit as quickly as someone else or some other means of making money, a business won't have any use for them

F/GO made way more with fraction of the budget. Talk about opportunity lost.

Nothing went wrong. Sure they lost Kojima, and MGS will probably never be good again, but just look at smash bros ultimate. They still care about games obviously, they've been very generous with their IPs being used

He used up all his ideas after MGS. Turns out just watching movies doesn't turn you into a great writer/director.

Aside from the poor mangement, Konami is just a sidenote when it comes to YGO; that big KoG is.