Wondering if anyone else can relate to this. But I just dislike the very idea of remakes. I find them pretty detestable to play. I know people will say it's just nostalgia-faggotry, but it's not really just that. It's moreso that, if I already played the original, the remake always just feel like a cheap, tacky upgrade. Where they basically just put some modern gloss on the graphics and acting like that makes it better. It's gross. Remakes tend to kill imagination; with the original game, you know they were working with some limitations, and so you had to imagine what the actual gameworld would really be like. But with remakes, its just "heres EXACTLY what its supposed to look like!" and suddenly all the imagination is dead. No need to fill in any blanks, no need for your mental image of the world to get ahead of what you actually see. Remakes are presenting a final product that you can't do anything but accept as what it is. And does it even make sense? With the original game the developers were obviously just going for representations of greater things they envisioned. But with remakes they basically just put a new coat of paint on the same basic world architecture. People always say "this is what the game WOULD have looked like, if they could have!" but don't seem to realize that if the original devs did have this tech, the entire world itself would probably look different, and not just the graphics.
I can't play remakes. I will opt to play the original every time. And its not just about pic related, basically any remake. The Pokemon remakes, Mario all stars, SotC, Crash. Hate them all. Almost all remakes are basically a 1 or 2 out of 10 in my book.
It's fine to dislike ports and remakes, but your reasoning for it sounds childish and dumb.
Adrian Rivera
what about remakes made by the original dev
Landon Ross
Then don't play them, they're not for you.
Isaac Baker
I don't like the loz remakes because 'grezzo' is a stupid sounding word and I don't like looking at it
Colton Brown
based and nintenpilled
Christian Murphy
i cant think of a single good REMAKE, but there are lots of good HD rereleases that just upscale the same engine or what not or deluxe editions
Aiden Myers
>Where they basically just put some modern gloss on the graphics and acting like that makes it better. It's gross. You know lots of remakes do a lot more than this, right?
Joseph Evans
This is why REmake 1 is the only acceptable remake. Nintendo are by far the worst with remakes, especially the zelda ones
Connor Parker
If you don't think REmake or Metroid Zero Mission are good remakes than the problem is on you.
Connor Reyes
>i cant think of a single good REMAKE Resident Evil. Pretty much the golden standard of remakes, and the only GREAT remake in history.
>dude what if we replaced all of the great original music with fucking garbage edgelord nu-metal honestly the most SOUL vs SOULLESS soundtrack downgrade I've seen outside of possibly the FFX HD remaster
Austin Brown
Inferior.
Jack Roberts
to be fair, they lost the rights to use the original music
Chase Johnson
Stop playing childish nintendo remakes. Resident Evil one was good.
Mason Martin
Oh yeah, I watched that Mark Brown video too.
Zelda OoT remake is a superior version and you gotta be a contrarian brainlet to think otherwise.
William Gonzalez
this. metroid 1 felt lonely and alien and unfriendly. metroid zero mission makes it feel accessible and player friendly.
Oh yeah, that was totally a thing that existed in the game and was the intention of the game developer, not some shit ass excuse that delusional fanboys created to justify the technical limitations the shitass hardware of the Gameboy imposed on the game.
Robert Bell
Oh, huh, I didn't know that actually. It's also not very hard to mod in the original soundtrack either, so my point really is moot
Luke Robinson
there was a really bad split between the original composer and edmund mcmillen, to the point where the current gen console versions of super meat boy also have a new, shitty soundtrack. it sucks, because they're great OSTs.
Chase Perez
>mfw ganon fight in OoT3D absolutely fucking disgusting
Andrew Campbell
Wow, that was a big shitload of nothing. Next time I would like to see you defending the sluggish and outdated UI.
Matthew Gomez
Metal Slug X says hi, but you're too young to actually remember when remakes meant something
Elijah Cruz
Next you're gonna say you prefer Metroid 2 to Samus Returns and AM2R.
Noah Torres
This is not even a remake, it's a glorified remaster. It's a retouched version of the original with new models, textures and controls. The new RE2 is a remake.
Colton Bailey
super mario 64 ds is the best remake ever and i challenge you to find a better one
Cameron Davis
>The Pokemon remakes
SoulSilver and HeartGold are regarded as the best entries in the entire series by the majority of the fanbase. Just fuck off before you embarrass yourself even more, moron.
Evan Cox
who cares what the intentions were. its what the result was. i like how metroid 1 felt really unfriendly to the player like it didn't care about your enjoyment of the world. it was basically just saying, here's an alien world. I hate it when games seem desperate to please.
not with those controls it's not also the removal of things like blj make the game a lot worse
Henry Jenkins
Well, good for the fanbase. But my tastes aren't determined by majority opinion of a fanbase
Dominic Bennett
Mario 64 is a bad remake, genericified all the kino enemies
Cameron Bell
Lol how can UI be sluggish?
Austin Myers
>And does it even make sense? With the original game the developers were obviously just going for representations of greater things they envisioned. But with remakes they basically just put a new coat of paint on the same basic world architecture. People always say "this is what the game WOULD have looked like, if they could have!" but don't seem to realize that if the original devs did have this tech, the entire world itself would probably look different, and not just the graphics.
I can only think of this exact problem for the 3d zelda games, but even as a kid I felt like I could tell the world felt barebones as fuck, especially when you're running through Hyrule field, but you're right, when you make everything look modern and nice, you can tell just how badly the world actually sucks in Ocarina of Time as far as being extremely sparsely populated and lacking in content.
Zachary Ross
Than thats boils down to your OWN personal opinion, its not a flaw of the game. And considering every single other improvement that was made in terms of controls and pacing on the remake, its still asinine to call the original the better version.
Elijah Sullivan
>my tastes
Than thats your personal opinion, dumbass. A game not cattering to your tastes isn't a flaw. Stop calling the game bad and go play something else.
Charles Cooper
It was literally the sluggish UI that turned the Water Temple into a nightmare to complete.
Why are you acting like people have to tread lightly and not give their opinions on games?
Ayden Long
I really hated the MM remake, the save everywhere change was dumb, the neutered Zora swim speed was dumb, and the Gyorg and Twinmold fights are dumb
Nathaniel Anderson
I definitely agree. However, in the case of remakes like RE2make that are more like re-imaginings that basically only carry over iconography and totally overhaul the gameplay, I can just accept them as their own game.
But stuff like the Link's Awakening remake is insulting and a total waste of resources that could have gone towards an actually new 2D Zelda.
Chase Bell
Because you people can't understand that personal taste doesn't play a factor when judging the quality of a game. Its ok to not like a game because it doesn't catter to your tastes, but to call that game bad just because of that its bullshit.
Brayden Nguyen
Individual response and subjective taste is essential for actually judging the quality of the game. It cuts through the bullshit of gaming culture overall. Otherwise you are just influenced by the dominant viewpoint (e.g. most game reviewers).
Jaxson Lee
In this case I can see what they were going for, since they wanted to contrast that with the desolation 7 years later.
Carter Hughes
ocarina deserves a real remake not that fucking abortion for 240p screen
Actual problem is that OoT's Ganon design is garbage, the original devs knew that so they covered it up as best they could, Grezzo made the mistake of letting players actually see it.
Nathan Price
fucking SOULESS
Logan Sanders
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY CHANGE THE CUTSCENE FOR NO REASON
Justin Wright
>OoT's Ganon design is garbage ur mom's vagina was garbage last night lolololo
>left: trawling through a deep dark cave through a laborious several floors to finally try to find the pokemon >right: bright and shiny cave, looks a lot friendlier
I don't understand why things even need to be updated. What exactly was the problem with previous technology? If a game's soundtrack was made with chiptune, does it really need to be "improved" with more sophisticated instrumentation?
Angel Barnes
Can you give an example from that?
Hudson Miller
Counterpoint: Ninja Gaiden
If the remake is actually a new game and not a remake it gets a pass from me.
Nathan Rodriguez
Same opinions.
Owen Flores
Because you can charge 60 bucks for ‘updated’ while the port sells for like 20 at most.
Jordan Cruz
Looking at this makes me think Zelda was meant to go in a realistic direction from the beginning, combined with the original inspirations.
Brandon Turner
Yeah I can see where you're coming from. It's annoying in some games but generally it's not that bad to me. What's worse is when they ruin the atmosphere of a game by lighting or other means. Like there's an area that's supposed to be dark and they brighten it up a lot or it's supposed to look grim/dark thematically and it's all round and vibrant looking. Mostly I just wish if they do a remaster of a singleplayer game that it had extra content.
Aaron Jones
Do you think Ganon sees a big L I N K in front of him as he saunters up to you?
Tyler Roberts
It dark because the gameboy had no color you fucking mongoloid.
Your post is literally OLD GOOD NEW BAD You will spin any old thing into something good while shitting on anything new
Adrian Ross
Metroid isn't a horror game idiot.
James Turner
>because the gameboy had no color And yet they make up for it with shading and effective pixel art.
Logan Gutierrez
>cloudy day vs the fucking apocalypse You nostalgiafags are fucking autistic to no end.
I get what he's saying though. It's the same thing with books if you think about it. Old games leave a lot of room for your imagination to do the heavy lifting so they end up being much more magical and personal to you.
they could have made it more white if they wanted to
Xavier Kelly
>isolation and dread can only exist in horror what a brainlet post
Evan Wright
Theres no dread. Samus isn't on some life threatening mission in Metroid 1. Shes there to fuck shit up. The entire game is filled with bubbly, space faring music.
The only Metroid game that attempts something like that is Fusion and thats because Samus's life is actually on the line.
Adam Gonzalez
ZM is more linear than the original, and less dark
>that vita remake of Little King's Story that turned its unique art style into a generic anime one
Brody Baker
my favorite part about OoT3D hate is that it's the only remake (that I know of) hated because it has a brighter color palette, rather than having a darker one.
"soulless" just means "I didn't grow up with it".
Landon Morris
MM fits the bill too
Easton Barnes
I can just imagine one of you autitsts playing the remake for the first time, reaching this part and going >Oh boy time for the walk up the stairs, only the best scene in all of vidya! >Oh...oh no :( whats this *stops and looks at the torches* >The soul is fucking gone, what happened to the realistic flames? >*Examines lock on door* >ugh, what the fuck did they do, what is this overdesigned crap
Jaxson Gonzalez
>remake the Wii game >add lots of improvements >absolutely trash the framerate in the process I don't even know why they bothered. Shit ran at 15fps on the regular unless you wanted to play zoomed the fuck in.
Carson Green
just use the iron boots lmao
Nolan Lopez
>mmmmm i can barely see ganon when the lighting hits, i wonder how he looks >okay, now i see how he looks, you can turn off the lights again
Parker Bell
The main problem is that gameplay gets dated just as much as graphics. They tend to compliment each other, with depth of gameplay tending to correspond with graphical fidelity, and when you improve one and not the other it just feels really off. I think I'd laugh if they made a SNES era JRPG with realistic graphics, it would be so stupid
Though I disagree with you on OOT/MM3D, simply because of how much I hated the entire N64 generation. It always felt a generation too soon for 3D with eye gougingly bad low poly art that was a step-down from high quality pixel art, and the 3DS games really do those games justice. It's not like they look like modern games, anyway. They just look like GC games instead of N64 games, and you know what? It fits them. MM and OOT were very advanced games for the time and could have easily passed as GC games, gameplay-wise.
Caleb Brown
>left: random cave >right: ice cave mo rocks should have been made of snow too
Aiden Collins
Ah yes, I'm sure you'd play Links Awakening instead of Links Awakening DX
You fucking chode
Asher Murphy
You’re on a remake of a remake board. Guess you gotta leave
Asher Hill
remakes can never resist changing lighting and color saturation
Lucas Brooks
Odin Sphere remake made the game 100x more playable
Isaiah Jones
>when you can go from the remake visuals to the original with the press of a button
FR/LG is the definitive proof that you retards are full of shit. There is not a single aspect about R/B/Y that isn't inferior to the remakes.
Michael Martin
Attack animations are cooler looking
But FRLG are way better overall
Jackson Moore
>it a "neckbeards who played OOT when they were 8 thought it was super grimdark" episode >it's a rerun OOT is not the etude to gritty high fantasy that you remember it being. Fucking grow up already. Literally.
The sounds were fucking shit in the remakes. Fuck you.
Luke Reed
In 3DS's case, they had to because you get bad ghosting (crosstalk) when you have bright sprites on top of dark backgrounds
Austin Robinson
DX< ffo kcuf
Jeremiah Cox
90% of the fun in RBY is breaking the game with glitches
FRLG are much better games as a whole, but they are missing that rough edge that made Gen 1 so broken, but fun
Aaron Collins
Remakes will always be a subjective thing, and there are a few that pretty much improve in every way over the originals (ie: Resident Evil 1), but the originals will always exist. If you don't like how something was changed, then disassociate it from the original, but honestly this trend isn't going to change any time soon.
It's better for remakes to try to at least switch things up a bit so you get a new game for your money's worth rather than the usual botched modern ideas slapped in poorly. Though that has its fair share of fuck ups too.
Go ahead and call me a nostalgiafag, I don't care, truth is the presentation of gen 1 was just superior. gnarlier sprites that made them look more monster like, the sounds of the attacks were really harsh compared to the soft muted attacks in the remake. And FR/LG basically just puts trees on the border of everything giving kanto a really claustrophobic feel, and overall kanto is too overly colorful. gen 1 is better.
Everything since has never been remotely as dark thematically. Incidentally that's the reason they've never remade the first two. It's just not "Nintendo" to them.
OOT was very obviously a fucking kid's game in comparison
>tfw drinking schnaps and watching autists argue about their wrinkled childhood memories how you know you made it
Dylan Ortiz
Stop taking Adderall.
Elijah Clark
That's a remaster, user.
Benjamin Moore
Name what you think is a remake then
Dylan Young
The only good thing about remaking videogames is this, you'll get new models for SFM.
You see Nintendo is not retarded they KNOW that SFM is a thing that's why they intentionally made Link's Awakening have shit graphics and a shit art style to destroy the SFM bait. However they didn't count on one thing, Hyrule Warriors Marin ha ha!
But seriously now, that's about the only real worth of remaking games, new SFM models to use in porn.
Anthony Stewart
A remake is recreating the game from the ground up. Resident Evil Remake is one example, and technically the Shadow of the Colossus PS4 version is a remake. A remaster is the same core game with anything from just resolution upscaling, to asset and gameplay touch ups. Most things you see nowadays are remasters - though by technicality, you have weird exceptions like Kingdom Hearts 1 on the HD Remixes, where they basically had to remake the game because the source code was lost, but they tried to make it as close to the original Final Mix version as possible with some improvements like it was a remaster anyway.
Xavier Reyes
>fair difficulty and progression >varied enemies, skills, and overworld >tough bosses >consequences for dying >lore plays an active role in the game What happened?
Angel Scott
I think the worst thing here is how shitty the animation is in the remake when Link draws his sword
Nicholas Miller
The vast majority of the N64 Zeldas were remade for the 3DS. Complete new graphics, sound, even script. The gameplay is the only thing that closely mirrors the original, but even that is off because the UI, controls and QoL improvements improve the gameplay greatly
Remaster sounds like taking basically the same game and running it at a higher resolution. That's not what's going on in OOT3D or MM3D at all
Does anyone else HATE this bastard? He always puts end cards BEFORE the video ends so it interrupts everything on display for a video including cut scenes that have his annoying end cards blocking like 45 percent of the screen.
Ryan Russell
It's really nitpicky but I'm not a big fan of making the mansion look so abandoned in the Remake. The scientists lived there and I'll accept that Umbrella scientists are probably mentally ill but I still don't think they'd let the place deteriorate to such a degree.
Austin Hughes
It was a shit game and you know it. If they had used this as a leaping off point, the series would not be nearly as popular and probably more like a metroidvania
John Cruz
seething
Brayden Fisher
They redid the assets and altered the gameplay in tidbits for OOT3D, but the core game is 1:1, they basically iterated on the same engine to the point of some of the old bugs still existing (some intentionally preserved) and so forth. Honestly it's easier to class it under a remastered port. MM3D is the real tough one because of the much more radical changes.
Tyler Nelson
Well you fight your shadow, so it has to be pretty dark
Joseph Cook
Go play in traffic, dumbass
Samuel Butler
>It was a shit game and you know it. Confirmed didn't play it or quit. OoT and every 3D Zelda by extention based itself off conventions from Zelda 2 as well.
Grayson Hill
I don't really wish to argue over the boundaries of an enormous grey area. I think if the vast majority of the game is remade it ought to qualify as a remake semantically, a lot more than games that clearly sport the same assets at just at higher resolutions and are still frequently called remakes all the same
Isaiah Hall
Id say the remakes of FF1-4 are all decent Pokemon gen 1 and 2 remakes are superior aswell I never played DQ7 but I hear its 3DS version is good
Luis Williams
I don't mind them when they're essentially updated ports, but when they're extensively reworked there's rarely any point to it. Take the recent RE2make, for example. It's a great game that I think most Resident Evil fans like a lot. But I can't help but wish it were just an all-new game instead. Sure, it borrows a lot from the original, but the core of it is so different in so many ways I wish it went whole hog and worked with a new premise with new characters to go with its classic Resident Evil revival mission statement.
The same goes for something like Metroid: Zero Mission, which is another game I love.
Zachary Reed
>plebs to this day attribute multilevel dungeon puzzles to lttp, when 2 was actually the one that started it >and the magic meter >and towns >and timeline bullshit >and shitloads of enemies that are staples in the series today
Game does not get the credit it deserves.
Jeremiah Morris
Nah. Zelda II is pretty great. It has a lot of issues, but it's a solid game I've had a lot of fun with.
Jordan Jones
>timeline bullshit Not him but how did Zelda 2 start the timeline bullshit?
Cameron Fisher
>u don't like my buggy nes game with garbage aiming and framerate? >u must b dumdum u should die Autism
>other games used ideas from it in an actually coherent manner, therefore the source of those ideas is good Well argued
Ethan Butler
I'm never going back to the original OoT. The remake made the water temple actually fun. That's enough to make it better in my opinion.
Brayden Stewart
All firstborn princesses being named Zelda. Allusions to events from long ago with the coma princess.
A different Zelda caused some people to wonder if you’re a different Link, since I don’t think the game is ever explicit about being the same Link who defeated Ganon.
In regards to lore, it also introduced the third triforce piece.
Elijah Ross
Give an actual counter argument or shut the fuck up. Every word out of you proves more and more that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Xavier Ross
>All firstborn princesses being named Zelda. Allusions to events from long ago with the coma princess. Was this in the manual? Because I don't remember it in the game
Carson Turner
>Give an actual counter argument Give an actual argument for me to counter other than >HURR U DONT LIKE MY GAME SO U DIDNT PLAY IT
Henry Torres
Based
Jonathan Johnson
>gets btfo >"Y-yea, but you're dumb!!"
Good one my dude
Cameron Anderson
I did with my first post and you brushed it off without countering a single example of what I was talking about in the first place or what the other user posted for that matter.
Evan James
>I did with my first post OMEGALUL @ u for unironically thinking that
Mason Rodriguez
>Was this in the manual? yes. Turns out her brother was a fucking retard.
And you still can't counter anything, so you're talking out your ass for (You)s.
Joseph Morgan
@457611476 Nice ad hom, dickhead
Brody Gonzalez
@457611524 >And you still can't counter anything You need to have an argument for me to counter, first
Logan Campbell
stupid phone poster
Lincoln Lopez
>legend of zelda suddenly becomes 100x more interesting what the hell,tell me more i'm intrigued
Joseph Roberts
Jesus, this is really bad. I can't believe I've never seen this screenshot before. How could Nintendo manage to put all that effort into something only to cock it up?
Luis Evans
was the twewy remaster on switch good? haven't played the original in a while and thought if I should get it
David Ward
Ah, yes, HP2000 is my favorite phone!
Christian Wright
>You need to have an argument for me to counter, first See Saying "BUT IT WAS SHIT" when he explained why he liked the game isn't worth anything.
Carson Rodriguez
The King of Hyrule that's buried in the desert was an amazing ruler who made use of the complete Triforce, but his only heir wasn't a good enough person, so he hid the Triforce of Courage away. He was the one who put it in the Great Palace with the old man, the one who put all the monsters in the area and in all the dungeons, and the one who summoned the bosses. On top of that, he put up a huge spell over all of Hyrule to put a Triforce mark on the person worthy of holding the complete Triforce again in the future. After his death, his son heard from the wizard advisor that he told Zelda what happened to the last piece and tried to hound her about it. After that failed, the wizard attacked Zelda and the prince tried to fight him like in the picture, but in the end, he cast the sleeping spell and died just after. This was all several hundred years before the events of Zelda 1/2.
Josiah Reyes
Nintnedo actually tried to make lore behind the of the franchise only to never bring it up again (not even in prequels)
Jordan Taylor
>>varied enemies, skills, and overworld Yeah, you can fight iron knuckles and uh, another iron knuckle, and a skeleton, and another iron knuckle! And you can use the shield spell and uhh... Oh look you can go to town, or other town, or you can go get ambushed in the grass! There's your counter argument. Feel free to apologize to me
Matthew Martin
No
Daniel Miller
I agree OP. I'm even more angry they didn't add new dungeons and areas to explore. If I want the original game, I play the original game. Give me an incentive to buy the remake. Say whatever you want about SM64DS, but it's a remake done right. It probably helps that Mario isn't story-driven.
>you can fight iron knuckles and uh, another iron knuckle, and a skeleton, and another iron knuckle! >octorock, acheman, tektite, boon, geru, daira, zora >you can use the shield spell and uhh... >jump, life, thunder, up/down thrust, fire, etc. >you can go to town, or other town, or you can go get ambushed in the grass! >Death Mountain, island, swamp, across the sea, etc. You've never left the first area.
Brayden Hill
AM2R is the best remake
Brandon Garcia
>"imagination"
Nah it's just incompetence. Grezzo's idea of showing what is outside the game's playable boundaries were big rock walls, piss vapor and paper trees. It's like Fire Red levels of effort and not even by the devs who probably had a better vision of what Hyrule looked like without limitations.
>strawman The game isn't very long and you can explore a few different areas from the start if you choose to. Don't blame the game for your inability to play it for more than 15 minutes and don't act like that's the only reason I gave.
Bentley Rodriguez
*yawn* nintendo hire this man blah blah blah. Take the (you).
You're either a fucking retard or a genius at baiting.
Eli Hernandez
>calls me out on strawman and immediately resorts to ad hom Real nice
Thomas Diaz
So is the 3DS version's camera cropped or am I missing something? That is actual peeve of mine in some rereleases.
Really just regurgitating you here, remakes are so many layers of weird. They assume that something should be revisited, but then hit this really hard divergence on WHY. Do you hold large chunks of the original work as sacrosanct and unchangeable because that IS the work, or do you change it significantly on the notion that there was something that could not be done or understood at the time and the creative process is fluid? How do you tell? Then video games have game play and much more rapid visual obsolescence to consider.
And of course the real answer is to make money so something just happens. Nintendo remakes are easy to poke fun because they are usual cheap-er moneymakers, sometimes by their own admission (as with the 3DS N64 remasters-that-might-as-well-be-ports). Not that they are without merit, having better performing, typically portable versions of those games are usually good things.
What makes FFX's new soundtrack a colossal dud? Definitely a few, glad the later versions included both of them, but I didn't notice most of the time.
I just like how ambiguous and abstract a lot of RBY is, the world is a bunch of approximations and the Pokemon designs don't feel quite settled on.
MM at least has questionable gameplay changes(Zora swimming, Deku spin momentum, ice arrow nerf, all the boss changes)
Ocarina of Time 3D is just straight up a better game. They even recreated most of the speedrunning glitches.
Nathaniel Cruz
>making excuses so you don't have to actually have to counter anything Every time.
John Rivera
nobody says it's grimdark, just that the atmosphere of the remake is noticeably different from the OG
Cooper Sanders
>NOOOO STOP CALLING ME OUT ON MY HYPOCRICY
Ian Gutierrez
the worst part is a full map of OOT Hyrule was made years ago for a guidebook and yet has never been referenced since
Carter Moore
I feel you, OP, and that's because you're pointing your finger towards copy-paste type of remakes, where they literally make the same game on a different engine, often reutilizing lines of code. Good remakes are made from the ground up, with tons of new ideas in mind. Although nowadays people call them "re-imagines", the term is wrong, because that's exactly what a remake is supposed to be. See Scaface movie, for example. A video game equivalent to this would be Resident Evil (2002), or by extension, RE2 (2019)
Jason Bell
>tfw no good OOT conversion mods I know about nimpize but from what I have played its just a tricky puzzle mod with some suprisingly cool new areas.
Alexander Ward
MM3D only fixed two things
-Gyorg no longer looks like a parade float -You no longer get the arguably broken Stone Mask as soon as you get your horse
Everything else is an arguable downgrade. On top of that you can still clean out 90% of Ikana just by having the hookshot which is gay as fuck.
You pseudo psychological idea that "Imagination" is dead and bad because something looks as the director intended is really not logical.
What is really means is that you suffer from the "I'm a old fag and I don't like change because it triggers me!"
Isaiah Morgan
>I'll just nitpick a single thing he said out of several points that has nothing to do with his main argument and use that so I don't have to prove I'm right and still win a stupid internet argument. That'll show him! I was waiting for you to say even one legitimate criticism of the game amidst all your bullshit since I've never heard anyone talk shit about Zelda 2, but I realize how futile it was to even hope for that much. As expected, you're just one of the low quality phone posting idiots ruining this board and this site. I have nothing more to say since you're probably just going to respond with more of this trash you like to entertain yourself with, but just like everything else you've said up to this point, it's meaningless so there's no point in bothering.
Cooper Moore
>I was waiting for you to say even one legitimate criticism of the game amidst all your bullshit Which I did. You just got pissy like every nostalgiacuck fanboy. >As expected, you're just one of the low quality phone posting idiots ruining this board and this site. Nice ad hom. I've been here longer than you >anything that doesn't align with my retarded delusional nostalgia fantasy world is meaningless O M E G A L U L
Ayden Baker
>Which I did. Show me where, you tried once and gave up when I fired back.
Dominic Richardson
Nigger
Hunter Scott
>Show me where Next you'll say it doesn't count because you said so
>You leave a very sad Saria on a dark bridge when she believed a destiny with you. She dies to become a sage. >The leader of the Goron tribe you befriended as a child literally start his fight with Volvagia on Death Mountain 7 years later mere minutes before you get there. He's been killed by the dragon, and becomes a sage. >ALL the sages are killed friends, necessary deaths >Most time is spent in weather, caves, dungeons, graves and outright chambers of blood, devastation, death, war and horror: it's rare to visit Kakariko village or have a sunny day galloping through Hyrule field I dunno, for a Nintendo game of the late 90s, it was a a pretty "gritty fantasy." I'm sorry you didn't get swear words, but there was plenty enough blood, burning and death splattering.
Sebastian Brown
I already countered both those points, you stopped trying and started harping on my insults instead.
David Evans
>I already countered both those points No you did not. You resorted to "You have to play the game for hours before it gets gud." (which is an objective flaw)
Christopher Gutierrez
>Not knowing that every DQ remake at least gets a look over by the guy who's directed every game since the beginning.
Luis Reyes
>You resorted to "You have to play the game for hours before it gets gud." >you can explore a few different areas from the start if you choose to. You are literally strawmanning what I said.
Jose Reyes
>>you can explore a few different areas from the start if you choose to. This is literally false.
Aaron Robinson
Yeah, I like REmake, but it feels like more of a spooky haunted house than a mansion used by Umbrella.
Ethan Jenkins
Meanwhile, BOTW offers way more freedom in that regard.
Nathaniel Myers
Only flaw is the normal battle theme and the final boss themes being fucked
In another thread, but this is something games today are missing: Subtlety. While this isn't really subtle, the fact that an E-rated game had this with blood under it shows how different things are today. Everything about the Shadow Temple/Well is scarier than most M-rated horror games.
Don't bother with him. He didn't like the NES Zelda 2 and you won't convince him otherwise. I wouldn't be surprised if he also dislikes Megaman.
Justin Miller
>cave with idol >desert >swamp >bridge >Death Mountain Literally all of these are available from the start. I have more points on top of that and ones I haven't mentioned too. And BotW is irrelevant.
Dominic Williams
>bright red blood on the execution floor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>subtle Okay
Difference is, megaman is actually a good game
Landon Myers
from this thread i learned that if someone just puts their opinions out there, how they really feel, it tends to lead to better discussion. i think more of us need to learn not to be afraid of coming across as wrong or emotional.
You are assuming that remakes actually capture what the director intended. that's a pretty huge assumption. probably the director intended something more than just a graphical update
Mason Barnes
The ambiance for basically the entirety of Adult Link was very grim. And in places like where you posted, the monsters were pretty horrific, SCREAMED if they saw you which locked you in place and were usually close enough they instantly latched onto you, nearly killing you. It was hard to see, there was all kinds of other metallic slicing and grinding and pounding and scraping in the background while you had to desperately explore a new, scary place still missing that DAMNED key you needed but had NO IDEA it was invisible even though you had the Lens of Truth and it was getting hectic. The game set tone really well, especially, as you said, as an E-Rated game for the young audience of the N64.
Charles Moore
Pretty much, the concept of a remake is completely unnecessary and lazy, the fact that the consumer would demand it is ridiculous. It's been understood in film for decades that remakes of classics are one of the lowest, cheapest and most insulting things a company can do, nothing but a cashgrab, but for some reason gamers prove once again they are the biggest chumps on the planet, they love them, they demand them! It seems the stupider and simpler one is the more they want remakes, goes for games and movies. >the godfather is supposed to be a good movie but I won't watch it because the visuals are dated and grainy so they should remake it! How shit is a person that would say this? Feel the same way about games.
That's not even remotely true. Only the starting point with the two towns and the beach with the first palace are available at the start. You can't even get past the cave without the candle from the first palace Also >N-N-N-N-N-NN-N-N-NO STAHP COUNTERING ME GAME WITH 999999999999999999999 times mor freedom than my crappy 30 YO game! omegalul >no argument >resort to ad hom
Caleb Martin
Nice headcanon tranny.
Isaac Edwards
>(((hebewood))) can't do remakes right, so vidya remakes are bad, even when they are objectively superior in ways that have nothing to do with visuals How to spot a pseudointelectual
Leo Hill
>While this isn't really subtle (Referring to the image)
Ryder James
>You can't even get past the cave without the candle from the first palace The candle just lights up the cave, you can go through it anyway if you want. It's your choice if you don't want to go through regardless of the circumstances.
Christopher Bell
>you can explore the cave if you memorized the location of all the enemies and pits beforehand! Really? This is your argument?
Cooper Foster
Another thing that scared me were the Wallmasters. I couldn't go in a room with one with the volume on. The Forest Temple scared the fuck out of me and replaying it as an adult is even more unsettling when you consider it's not really forest-themed, but like a haunted house in the forest, especially that room with the pool of blood.
Ocarina of Time really stood out to me as a kid coming off the NES game, but as an adult, it really leaves a different impression on you, just like the main character.
Ironically it was Ocarina's popularity that lead the series to develop a more widespread appeal and thus remove the blood and replace enemy deaths with poof explosions. Sort of like Star Wars.
Charles Ramirez
Actually, no, you are wrong. It's not impossible, it's not a glitch, it's not game-breaking, it's not even difficult to pass the small trials that act as gateways to indicate difficulty and your intended general level to accomplish the next set of tasks/puzzles of Zelda 2. Without any knowledge whatsoever, you can beat the game in a day. If you know the route and the puzzles, you can complete it in just a couple hours. Neither experience is easy, either.
You, as Link, are free to explore the map and travel quite a great distance, encounter a large number of caves, dungeons, field maps, enemies, towns and other secrets before being legitimately "stopped" by being required to have a spell or piece of equipment: the reward for solving the puzzle required to progress.
While this is a mild attempt to be both specific and general when comparing to 1987 release of the NES' "Zelda 2" I hope you don't immediately make some comparative jump to some 2017 sequel as if Zelda is somehow an awful game even for its own time more than 30 years ago when it still remains highly reviewed, frequently speed-run and entertaining audiences even today.
>replace enemy deaths with poof explosions. That's been in since the NES
Jose Torres
>Really? This is your argument? That's not a defense. The option is there if you choose to learn and go through that path. It's not like there isn't variety between the other places that don't require going through there either.
Jaxon Reed
I'm guessing you are one of those retards that loves remakes, instead of a remake why not ask for a followup? Bring something new instead of retreading old ground. What is gained by having someone repeat themselves, specially when it's almost always done by different and less talented people than the original? Most of the remakes are done by cheap contracted out third party studios and it shows, these people often miss the whole fucking point of aspects in the original and don't have half the talent of the oringal creators yet often feel compelled to change things to their inferior sensibilities, if they were worth shit they wouldn't be making remakes to begin with. And if the remakes weren't a quick, cheap, throwaway product they wouldn't outsource them to begin with. But you are too stupid to see any of this.
James Garcia
>ad hom: the post Nice. Also, way to address literally ZERO of my points. >The option is there The cave will LITERALLY kill you if you don't have the candle
Joshua Moore
You didn't make a single point, you just said they are objectively superior and brought up nothing to talk about, while arguing against a point I never made, so I brought up more points against remakes, the cheap third party studios used because they don't want their top talent tied up in them. The companies themselves are showing their lack of effort and you defend them?
Brayden White
>The cave will LITERALLY kill you if you don't have the candle No it won't. explained it all even better than I did.
Lucas Myers
I like remakes (Lunar on PS1, Resident Evil on the Gamecube, even have a soft spot for Goldeneye on Wii) but I dont like remasters.
You posted a bad remaster. Best case scenario a remaster is inoffensive like Metal Gear HD Collection.
Easton Rodriguez
Also
Shadow of the Collosus PS3 - remaster Shadow of the Collosus PS4 - remake
Both are bad but people get them confused and it's important to be precise.
Matthew Barnes
>You didn't make a single point, you just said they are objectively superior I didn't say they were objectively superior. I said that >the cheap third party studios used because they don't want their top talent tied up in them. Zero Mission was done in house and was directed by Sakamoto, who was involved with Metroid and KI. It drastically improved over the original, with a redesigned layout, additional areas, additional bosses, additional upgrades, and improved aiming
ORAS and HGSS were developed by GF and were produced by Masuda, who worked there since its inception. They both added new battle modes, new facilites, new locations, new pokemon, and online play.
Mario 64 DS was inhouse and produced by miyamoto. It added 3 new characters, new bosses, new areas, and minigames
But yeah, no effort, I guess >can't see the enemies >they hit you >you die You cannot disprove this >Without any knowledge whatsoever, you can beat the game in a day. That is a lie >You, as Link, are free to explore the map and travel quite a great distance, That is a lie >encounter a large number of caves, dungeons, field maps, enemies, towns and other secrets before being legitimately "stopped" by being required to have a spell or piece of equipment: the reward for solving the puzzle required to progress. That is a total lie
Liam Baker
>You cannot disprove this You have life to take hits and multiple lives to try again and learn from your mistakes. >lie, lie, lie Your word is not an argument.
Jayden Turner
>You have life to take hits and multiple lives to try again and learn from your mistakes. That doesn't disprove anything >Your word is not an argument. But your word is? You're a hypocrite
Henry Lee
Autistic retard
Nolan Foster
>Without any knowledge whatsoever, you can beat the game in a day. >That is a lie Git gud shitter.
Lincoln Edwards
>That doesn't disprove anything It does, it's your fault if you don't have the ability or the patience. >But your word is? You're a hypocrite There are things to back up what both he and I have stated unlike your denials and you clearly know at least that much if you can remember the first area so stop being disingenuous.
Carter Bailey
>get caught in a lie >resort to childish insults Thanks for your concession
Camden Davis
Anyone who isn't a complete shitter can beat the game in a day without a guide. The game isn't nearly as cryptic as the first and is highly linear.
Maybe it has the same animation if he has the deku sheild instead of the the hylian.
Jayden Ortiz
>Zelda bosses then >cool knight with a horse head >cool knight with multiple helmets >ghost knight riding a mechanical horse >a gigantic ogre-looking creature with a massive flail
>Zelda bosses now >four blob variations of Ganon >Ganon
what the fuck happened
Jaxson Hall
>it's your fault if you don't have the ability or the patience 1. It is not my fault. The game literally is designed to be invisible 2. I shouldn't have to have patience to appease some nostalgia faggot that can't accept the truth >There are things to back up what both he and I have stated Yeah, so many, you can't name a single one >Anyone who isn't a complete shitter can beat the game in a day without a guide Some of us aren't neet losers with no lives > The game isn't nearly as cryptic as the first *WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE*
other people besides you like to play video games. for example, it's difficult for a kid today to play the original ocarina of time on an n64. so why not put ocarina on a current popular platform? that way a new generation can enjoy the same games you grew up with. saying "just play the original" isn't a valid argument when many classic games aren't available to play via legal means.
While thats true, FRLG are worse than Ruby and Sapphire in every single way and came out later.
Lucas Hall
>what the fuck happened You completely ignored the overworld bosses on purpose to make your """""point"""""
Christopher Clark
ah yes >giant cluster of rocks with elemental variants >sand fish with barely any moves
Anthony Bailey
Forgot the Hinox There's also the Yiga master
Alexander Turner
>Some of us aren't neet losers with no lives What an epic argument. Almost as epic as going to TVTropes to look up information about a game you've never played. If you couldn't figure out how to find Bagu or Kasuto on your own you're actually retarded, the game gives you plenty of guidance and their locations are plenty conspicuous. Figuring out Thunderbird is pretty fuckin simple too since nothing hurts him until you use a spell that has basically no other use.
Christian Hernandez
Need I remind you of how pathetic the Skyward Sword bosses are? (Besides you know who)
>It is not my fault. The game literally is designed to be invisible You are acting like that somehow makes the game bad, so yes it is your fault. >I shouldn't have to have patience to appease some nostalgia faggot that can't accept the truth I've been appeasing you this whole time while you make questionable half arguments on a single point I said about why the game is good, I even stopped throwing insults because you chose to complain about that instead of the arguments I made. Nothing you've said so far worsens the game experience either. >Yeah, so many, you can't name a single one You are an idiot with the memory of a goldfish, my first post has 5 different points and you've only mentioned one this whole time.
Ian Flores
Yiga wouldn't really count as overworld since the hideout is considered a mini-dungeon
Brayden Adams
You can encounter Redeads as a child
Liam Martinez
>You are acting like that somehow makes the game bad, so yes it is your fault. Believe it or not,people are allowed to think differently than you.grow up >I've been appeasing you this whole time while you make questionable half arguments on a single point I said about why the game is good, Shut up. I've made perfectly sound and FACTUAL arguments >I even stopped throwing insults because you chose to complain about that instead of the arguments I made. >You are an idiot with the memory of a goldfish Yeah, no insults there! > Nothing you've said so far worsens the game experience either. It worsened my experience, which is just ad valid as yours. If you want to act like your opinion is fact, piss off
>my first post has 5 different points PPPPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA OH NO NO NO NO NO NONO *WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE*
>can't refute the facts >discredit the source and insult me Epic >iguring out Thunderbird is pretty fuckin simple too >just waste your mana cycling through all your spells, bro! Epic
The locations for Bagu and the secret village are obvious as fuck. If you played the game you'd know that. >just waste your mana cycling through all your spells, bro! The only other offensive spell is fire which you can use along with thunder. Stop talking about games you've never played.
Cooper Gomez
based and redpilled
Ayden Gomez
>talking shit about Koloktos Demise was also good but impacted the series in such a way that I can't think highly of him
Angel Price
>get hit with facts >resort to ad hom Nice. Fans of this game suck. I got past horsehead, faggot. The game is just lame
Michael Adams
>WHEEEEEZE Careful, you're killing him with facts.
Jose Perez
>I got past horsehead, faggot Wow you beat the first boss, that's pretty impressive for the mentally retarded.
Nathan Wilson
Dude, you can't prove a word of that, where as he posted facts from a source
More like killing me with your retardation
Wyatt Myers
It is impressive how I put up a garbage game with a terrible fanbase. Seriously, you're so insufferable I wish the game was never made. You're the bronies of zelda
Oliver James
>Believe it or not,people are allowed to think differently than you.grow up And people are also allowed to back up their opinions with facts and observations yet you choose not to. >Shut up. Multiple people have been pointing out flaws in your arguments so they are questionable. >Yeah, no insults there! And you're such a fucking pussy that you use "no you" as an excuse not to argue because your feelings are hurt. >It worsened my experience, which is just ad valid as yours. If you want to act like your opinion is fact, piss off And for whatever reason, you still haven't explained how. In all of your posts, you haven't said a single thing you dislike about the game yourself. >I have no reading comprehension or memory so I'll just laugh and hope he forgets How many times must I point this out to you?
Joseph Peterson
t. 13 year old who uses these as a means of defense. grow up
Lincoln Hall
Go cry somewhere else fagboy and stop talking about games you've never played.
Blake Edwards
Leave before you lose what little credibility you think you have left samefag.
Matthew Jackson
>people actually struggle with Zelda 2 fucking neo Yea Forums
>And people are also allowed to back up their opinions with facts and observations yet you choose not to. I LITERALLY did. >Multiple people have been pointing out flaws in your arguments so they are questionable. Multiple have been pointing out flaws in YOUR arguments too. >And you're such a fucking pussy that you use "no you" as an excuse not to argue because your feelings are hurt. Oh, I thought you stopped insutling me? >And for whatever reason, you still haven't explained how. In all of your posts, you haven't said a single thing you dislike about the game yourself. I literally did. And even if I didn't, I don't have to justify my taste to some delusional self riteous resetera tranny
seethe harder, discord tranny>How many times must I point this out to you? Multiple people blew that out, like I said before
> >u don't liek game >u must suckxxorz Well argued, discord tranny
Carter Butler
Using a 5 second snippet shows that this is indicative of what has been changed -- not that it's the most important part of the game. You absolute retard.
Do you REALLY prefer the original versions of Sonic the Hedgehog CD, Skyrim, Crash N Sane Trilogy, Duke Nukem 3D, Turok 1+2, Metroid 2 Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge, Soul Calibur 2, Night Trap, Double Switch, and Dragon's Lair Trilogy? What about mods or fan remakes like Cannonball (Outrun) Doom 64 EX Streets of Rage Remake AM2R Silent Hill 2 Enhanced Edition?
Nathaniel Ortiz
You literally went to a TVTropes page for a game you've never played past the first boss and passed off the information posted on that page as objective fact. You should honestly kill yourself.
Adam Green
"time is in your hands" wow I did it I read Japanese for a 6 year old.
Isaac Collins
>shadow temple >scary Yes user, children tend to find things spooky.
Henry Ortiz
OLD GAME GOOD OFFICIAL GAME GOOD NEW GAME BAD FAN GAME BAD
>You literally went to a TVTropes page for a game you've never played past the first boss and passed off the information posted on that page as objective fact You tried to pass off a total lie you made up as fact. At least I have a source, faggot
Mason Morris
Half the fun of remakes is going through it with a fine tooth comb and admiring /despising the changes.
Sometimes remakes are a net positive. Like the Crash Team Racing remake, even if it's not 1:1 it's still worth having for online CTR and revived discussion for one of the best racing games of all time.
Cameron Hall
>studying Japanese for the last two months >just read this without having to look anything up >didn't have to reread it to figure it out Is this, dare I say it, an epic win?
Luis Gonzalez
>He'd rather play the shitty original Sonic CD instead of Taxman's Sonic CD Your loss.
Asher Lewis
You have absolutely zero context for the 100% subjective opinions you posted. There's no point in trying to argue the point of how obvious or non obvious the two locations posted on the page are when you know nothing about them in the first place. I'm going to remind you again to not talk about games you've never played so you don't embarrass yourself like this in the future.
Why wouldn't someone like Zelda 2? Is this asshole baiting?
Connor Hall
>You have absolutely zero context for the 100% subjective opinions you posted. 1. TV tropes is fact checked. IT's literally objective >There's no point in trying to argue the point of how obvious or non obvious the two locations posted on the page are when you know nothing about them in the first place. I'm going to remind you again to not talk about games you've never played so you don't embarrass yourself like this in the future. Again, nice hom. does your mom know you're on Yea Forums, champ?
Michael Anderson
The issue is the original devs could change their vision of the game as time goes on and likely even regret certain features or characters they created.
Aaron Perry
Switch MM remake without the 3DS changes when?
Ian Nelson
>I LITERALLY did. You didn't, you denied one thing I said and brought a terrible example that doesn't prove anything. You just screeched it's your opinion when that didn't work out. >Multiple have been pointing out flaws in YOUR arguments too. No, it's been you this whole time, you aren't fooling anyone samefag. >Oh, I thought you stopped insutling me? And you insulted me instead instead of giving a real argument so I stopped caring. Even now backed into a corner, you're still doing it instead of playing the game so you know what you're talking about. >And even if I didn't So you admit it then. >I don't have to justify my taste to some delusional self riteous resetera tranny You can accept that you're wrong and choose to stop replying if you want, no one is forcing you to make a complete fool of yourself.
Sebastian Brown
>NEW BAD OLD GOOD shut up boom ocarina of time 3D is way better
Jason Allen
>can't refute a word i said >use a memesons meme-Gi-Oh reaction image
Brandon Perry
How do you lose the rights to your own music? Or is all the original BOI borrowed or some shit
Lucas Sanders
>1. TV tropes is fact checked. IT's literally objective The question of if something is or isn't obvious given its location and the information within the game is not objective. Stop talking about games you've never played.
Bentley Sanders
Soul Calibur 2's conquest mode in the arcades was the shit. Hell yeah I prefer the original.
Also, no assets or mechanics were changed in the fan patch for Silent Hill 2. Its all the original teams work, they were just that autsitic.
Obviously, he wouldn't be responding to every post he could it he wasn't.
Alexander Perry
>difference in opion = bait Go back to resetera
>You didn't, You're a GDMF liar >No, it's been you this whole time, is not me *WHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE* SEE PIC RELATED >And you insulted me instead instead of giving a real argument so I stopped caring. Even now backed into a corner, you're still doing it instead of playing the game so you know what you're talking about. I have been NOTHING short of mature and intellectual. You're lying out of your gaping anus >So you admit it then. Reading comprehension >You can accept that you're wrong >STOP DISAGREEING WITH THE HIVE MIND IT'S RONGTHINK YOU RACIST CISHET MALE Go back
This looks really awful. MM3DS LOOKED good, the issue was everything else was ruined.
Matthew Flores
>Seethe harder, nigger That's quite the adhom.
Ian Jenkins
That's quite the seethe
John King
Why would I be mad? You're the one that got BTFO so hard he resorted to calling the other person a nigger out of sheer asshurt.
Ian James
They changed a bunch of texures, lighting and model normals in the new version. They also added a power cable to a fridge to explain the light coming from it though it would probably make more sense to remove the light. youtube.com/watch?v=kHkCCIiH1_Y
Aaron Murphy
Zelda II s0idrones worked into a seethe. have fun getting banned for starting flame wars
It's such a fucking shame this man is stuck being a suit. The way he conveys, writes, sets up things is fucking perfect. Breath of the Wild is my favorite 3D Zelda, but the story in it is a complete joke, trying to force you to like 4 literally whos with hamfisted scenes. Zelda was decent at most.
Then you think back to Ocarina. >That scene with Saria on the bridge when you leave Kokiri for the first time
>Darunia seeing you across the way in the room before Volvagia, acknowledging you before going off to fight Volvagia alone and without the hammer
>Grouchy little shit Milo sitting alone at the party at the end, having lost his two friends Saria and Link
>Shit like
The sages in Ocarina had less screen time than the champions in Breath of the Wild, but nearly all of them aside from Nabooru and old fat guy are better characters. And don't even get me started on Majora's Mask. Koizumi just knows things.
Gavin Cox
I don't think I've ever played a remake where it genuinely felt improved.
>You're a GDMF liar And you can't be bothered to back up this claim either. >is not me You can say whatever you want, that doesn't make it true. >I have been NOTHING short of mature and intellectual. You're lying out of your gaping anus >LITERALLY >discord tranny >WHEEZE >nostalgia faggot >neet losers >omegalul >STOP DISAGREEING WITH THE HIVE MIND IT'S RONGTHINK YOU RACIST CISHET MALE >Go back Again, you're fooling no one retard. >Reading comprehension You can't even think of your own insults anymore and nowhere in this entire post do you mention anything about Zelda 2. You're nothing but an assblasted underage who can't accept being wrong despite literally everyone else calling you out.
Jaxson Reyes
hello egoraptor
Colton Cox
>Announcing your reports Yikes.
John Perry
You don't even get the meme, Metroid II and SM are the Metroid games pseuds get wet over for being dark and isolating
The characters felt more like genuine people that you happen to run into on your adventure and get a quick glance at their life, just like with strangers; BoTW, TP and SS make them just feel like parts to be used in a movie.
Jayden Hughes
Shit literally looks like a grad students fan project.
Isaiah Sanders
The only people who want "remakes" anyway are cancerous zoomers who need pretty grafix to enjoy games
>stating something is against the rules=announcing a report cringe Nice to know that it's easy to trigger you cucks so easy. All I have to do is think differently than you. O M E G A L U L Remakes improve more than graphics, you stupid faggot.
I am sorry but if games were determined by the majority then they would turn out like shit so please don't pretend like that justifies it. It looks nothing like the original and is just using the cheap "muh graphics" shit all of those UE4 videos do. There is more to a good remake than just textures and models.
Tyler Stewart
>NOOOOOOOOOOO STAHP HAVING DIFRINT OPIONS OR I CALL U AUTISTIK omegalul
>NOOOOOOOOOOO STAHP HAVING DIFRINT OPIONS OR I CALL U AUTISTIK omegalul
Daniel Wood
The fact that the only remake anyone can give as an example of an objectively better experience is ONLY the RE1 game is pretty telling about remakes as a whole.
>given up arguing why Zelda 2 is bad completely at this point to insult in some pitiful attempt to save face I accept your concession.
Charles Kelly
>The fact that the only remake anyone can give as an example of an objectively better experience is ONLY the RE1 game Metroid Zero Mission Samus Returns FE echoes Bionic commando Rearmed Game and watch Gallery 4 FFI&2
Lucas Williams
>>given up arguing why Zelda 2 is bad completely at this point to insult in some pitiful attempt to save face Because everytime i do, u drones come in and insult me. I'm never going to play it again because it's fans are dickheads
Jaxon Martinez
You're still missing my point. I'm not trying to defend how the trailer looks at all, I'm saying that the intent of the creators and the reaction of the viewers was for a true remake to MM worthy of the original.
Carson Adams
>Metroid Zero Mission Plenty of people here have been arguing back and forth about zero mission so no. >Samus Returns Melee counter that plenty of people even off this site are divisive about
Gabriel Wright
>I'm never going to play it again because it's fans are dickheads Oh boo hoo, poor baby. What a great loss this world now faces.
Cooper James
>Because everytime i do, u drones come in and insult me. I'm never going to play it again because it's fans are dickheads You reap what you sow retard, I accept your concession.
The Yakuza remakes are objectively better than the originals.
Blake Russell
see
Michael Robinson
Sure, and I could say the same thing about all of the other UE4 videos that have thousands and sometimes millions of views. I just find it really weird you would respond to a comment asking for the removal of the 3DS changes to something that changes the game even more. It's a bit like posting a 18-wheeler when someone is asking toyota to remove the latest feature from their newest car.
Asher Morales
Is that a self portrait? I see tears so I imagine it is.
Anthony Jenkins
If you can't handle insults you should probably stay of Yea Forums and the internet as a whole. Nobody has to pretend to be nice to you here.
David Rodriguez
Of course you're a shitty wojak poster too, I accept your concession.
Wyatt Wright
>I just find it really weird you would respond to a comment asking for the removal of the 3DS changes to something that changes the game even more. It's the sentiment, everyone was hoping for a good Wii U remake of MM when that video released and that post reminded me of it. I get what you're saying, but you're looking too far into it.
Landon Sanders
>ruining the ending of 2 in the shitty remake nah
Lincoln Sanders
Maybe I am, I apologize. Have a dog for your troubles.
Kiwami was an objective upgrade in every way I'm waiting for Kiwami 2 to release on PC.
Anthony Green
>Kiryu calling Majima his Aniki in 2
This bothers me more than it should. They're supposed to start off as frenemies.
Christopher Robinson
0 and Kiwami kind of invalidate this idea through all the extra interactions they had.
Lincoln Murphy
I agree with OP. Remasters usually ruin the art direction of the game with cheap graphical effects and other changes. It's obvious the studio doing the remaster (usually an outsourced studio) has none of the talent or vision of the original team.
Connor Peterson
Well, sometimes bright colors ruins the atmosphere. If you want to make something spooky and ominous. Why would you make it sparkle in neon reds and greens? Lower the saturations. Make the air feel stale. Make it cold and unwelcoming.
If everything is bright and colorful all the time, it just looks super kiddie.
