Did you build your own PC or did you buy a pre-built one? If so; would you recommend the place you bought it from?
Did you build your own PC or did you buy a pre-built one? If so; would you recommend the place you bought it from?
>buying a prebuilt
The only excuse for this is being young and not knowing any better, if you're over the age of 15 and are too stupid to build your own PC stick with consoles
Why are I/O shields so fucking shitty? Any place where I can get one not made of the worst aluminum?
What about those people who are lazy and have the money to throw into the trash?
Built one in 2013. It’s my 3rd rig and it’s still trucking pretty well, although the CPU is getting there. I recommend building your own. There’s a ton of guides that walk you through everything step by step. If you’re on a budget avoid meme gamer shit, buy a cheap case, and put your money into the CPU, GPU, and a decent SSD
Why would you want buy a pre-built when building one is easy, cheaper and objectively better.
Buying a pre-built PC is retarded because most of them have cheap chink no-name PSU, mobo and RAM and the last thing you want to cheap out on is your PSU.
Building your own PC has literally never been easier.
If you're dumb enough to waste money like that then you fall into the "stick to consoles" camp
>Grab shitty old pc
>Buy new motherboard, CPU, GPU, and fan
ther u go, perfect PC
Even then it's far better to build one yourself since that's the way you can get one with the best parts you personally want. At the very worst buy the pieces yourself and pay someone to build for you.
Why would you want a hardier one? All they do is prevent dust from getting your case around your io. You can just not use it if you don't like it.
Dont buy a pre-built
Dont worry, you arent gonna fuck anything up and it will work fine
Would also have to buy new RAM and since it's an old shitty PC it probably doesn't have a SSD and a small HDD, so you'll also have to buy those. In the end you'll at best only have the Power Supply (which you shouldn't since an old one would probably fuck up your equipment) and the Case.
>At the very worst buy the pieces yourself and pay someone to build for you
I'm actually in this situation atm, Its less that I can't build and more that i'm stuck in a place where I have no room to build it. Problem is I still i'm not savvy enough to know what is the best value while still being good enough to play games and stream art.
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Do you live in a matchbox? Literally all you need is a desk or table
Thanks user!
Built my own. Cost a lot since i dont earn that much and live in a third world shithole but i dont regret it
Don't buy prebuilt and don't fall for the AMD meme. No I'm not an Intel fanboy, their shit is overpriced and their upgrades get weaker and weaker every gen, but they are still miles better than AMD.
i built mine over time
Literally have enough space for my bed and my bike.
I fell for the Ryzen meme and I agree, but Zen 2 is right around the corner and it looks promising
Touché
How the fuck do you live like that
You have money to waste in expensive PC parts and literally pay someone to do what a toddler can but doesn't have the money to get even a mediocre place to live?
>but next gen is right around the corner and it looks promising
I've been hearing this since fucking bulldozer and you guys have still NEVER learned.
i ave a gaming laptop ama
Built my own. Its ez.
When it comes to mid-range PC's, you'd have to be retarded to NOT go for AMD, but if you have the money to waste, there's no reason for not grabbing an 8700k and be happy, unless you want to build multi-tasking machine.
So lock your bike outside, why the fuck would you even bring that inside
I don't this fucking dorm room is a piece of shit.
I'd rather give my parts to my friend I trust to build my PC since he does it as a hobby that my ass who only knows the basics.
As for the end part, see above. Its a shitty dorm room. If it was my actual house this wouldn't be an issue but thats a good 20 miles away.
In all honesty Ryzen was a huge step up for AMD.
I want black on black or something with a finish similar to my case (H500i). I just think they look really cheap and the design is atrocious (bending off little metal pins that dont have a clean snap)
>just buy a prebuild with 9900x titan rtx sli and 8tb of nmve storage
Only poorfag buils their own pcs
Why does she look like one of those girls who kinda smells like piss no matyter how clean they are?
Built my own, took more time than I should have(installed the stock CPU fan instead of the aftermarket).
Shoutsouts to my boy, Carey.
Hang on if you don't have enough space to build the thing how the fuck will you use it
>So lock your bike outside
You ain't fucking stealing my bike.
(you)
Unless you're also doing CAD work or some shit, you are objectively wrong.
I can just put it under the bed and feed wires to the end of it. There is a TV on the wall i'll use as a moniter.
I want it built now so once I finish my course I can take it back home.
You probably doesn't know how easy it's to build a PC, so you have no idea how stupid what you're saying is. Trust me, the hardest part of building a PC is getting the cables rights since there are tons of it, but it's not like you can fuck up even that, at worse it gets slightly annoying. And don't worry about space, you do it your bed or even in the ground, just make sure there isn't any static.
Then don't complain about not having any space when you bring stupid shit like that into your closet-sized dorm room.
wonder how poor you have to be to think that wasting $100-200 max for convenience is a waste of money. get a real job
>once I finish my course I can take it back home.
Oh. Now I get it.
Do it with him. You’re lucky it’s a friend. He’ll be happy to teach you. It’s a fun hobby to get into
Why the fuck do I get the impression you have more than one chin?
I guess you're the kind of person who gets an uber instead of walking 200 feet
If you legit thinks what you post is a compelling argument I feel sorry for you.
What's bad about it? I'm looking to upgrade from my i7 3700 and I was gonna go ryzen.
Because you have autism?
He's offered to teach me how to do it myself, i'll take him up on it since he is a nice dude, though his stuttering is kinda hard to understand at times.
Campus is fucking huge. Students actually bring their fucking cars in order to drive from one building to another. Besides its good for the cardo.
Shit, your argument is far better. You got me.
I presumed you paid someone to write that post for you.
Honestly its as simple as putting together a Lego set, my first build I just followed the PC gamer tutorial and even then it had way more detail than I needed
>Gaming PC's
>Not PC's to make games
Send help. How beefy do I need my PC to be in order to make this stuff?
Why do you penny pinch, user? Neet bucks aren't enough?
further proof you're unemployed. some people value their time anons
I'm an electronic engineer you dumb nigger, I get paid plenty of money. Why would I waste it by buying a prebuilt for "convenience" when I can build a better computer for cheaper?
>I'm an electronic engineer
Oh man, I'm an astronaut cowboy!! I moonlight as a spy at times.
i dont think someone that makes almost six figures a year, and is most likely single with no kids cares about spending $100-200 extra. the time you spent building your pc is money you've lost. the only excuse you have for building a pc is if you find it fun
>electronic engineers are as rare as spies and astronauts
I think it's obvious who lives in a basement and doesn't go outside
building a pc is actually quite easy, the only people who could find it hard are people who are such retards its a wonder they're even able to breathe.
The only "hard" part of building a PC you're first time isn't the putting it together part, but your nerves making you think "I must be very careful with these parts" and then you soon realize you don't have to treat them super carefully.
Build one yourself. It's fun and you'll feel superior to any console tard.
Sure I could certainly afford it. But why would I when I'm more than capable of building my own for less money? It doesn't even take a long time, a few hours out of my day at most
>a few hours out of my day at most
that's a lot of money lost for a supposed electrical engineer.
Yes I would definitely take time off to build a fucking computer. How fucking stupid are you? Building it would fit nicely into a Saturday morning
Its more satisfying building your own PC then just buying one.
>Building it would fit nicely into a Saturday morning
So you admit you're doing it for fun? Stop acting like you're doing it to save money, saving 100 bucks by doing something for a few hours is not something anyone getting paid almost 6 figures a year would do
So everything done on a weekend is for fun? I never said I just do it to save money, the fact that you save money by custom building is one of several benefits
>saving 100 bucks by doing something for a few hours is not something anyone getting paid almost 6 figures a year would do
Not that user, but you're an actual retard. Its unbelievable how desperate you are to justify your stupid opinion.
you still havent addressed my point super retard
>saving 100 bucks by doing something for a few hours is not something anyone getting paid almost 6 figures a year would do
yes im sure someone who makes 6 figures a year cares about saving 100 bucks
Why the fuck not? You haven't given any justification for pointlessly wasting money
At least post the full comparison.
UserBenchmark's """"real world"""" score is very heavily biased towards SC and QC and even with a fucking massive 71% multicore advantage for the 2700X the i5 is rated higher.
The 2700X starts pulling ahead after 8-9 threads which means it's basically even in gaming but more future-proof.
Point being do something else with your bike if its taking up half your space, get a wall rack or something, lock it up right outside your door
>wanted to buy a prebuilt so I could get ultra small form factor but still get a high end laptop GPU inside
>still cost double
What the fuck.
...
If you were raised right you won't just give away 100 bucks no matter how much you make.
Even if you realistically shouldn't care it just feels wrong to get ripped off like that.
>an hour of my time is not worth saving 500 dollars
im really doubt that you make 500 dollars an hour
>Wall Rack
We can't install thing into walls, the rack itself would just be pointless anytime I didn't have my bike with me.
>Lock it up outside
Not allowed to leave it outside in the courtyard. Other students walk though it.
I've seen prebuilts with High-end components that are cheaper than it would cost to buy the parts individually, but I would assume in those instances that they cheaped out somewhere.
Why do you retards imagine I am constantly busy and my time is somehow worth money? If I was digging through shit for 3 hours in order to save $100 I would see your point. Taking a couple of hours to build something I will use for several years in order to not pointlessly piss away my hard earned cash is not a waste of time
Almost certainly, usually the PSU or mobo as another user said earlier in the thread
>At the very worst buy the pieces yourself and pay someone to build for you
Yep, this is what I did with my first build, because autism, so I took notes, asked some questions realized this is easier than it looks.
Ok, I'm not going to buy a prebuilt but I like the way they look with the side panels and LED lighting, how do I build my own to look like this?
>Why do you retards imagine I am constantly busy and my time is somehow worth money?
>he thinks you save $500 from building it yourself
absolutely delusional, $100-200 max as long as you're not buying it from walmart
only boomers and IT deployers buy pre-built desktops, in my experience. i dont know anyone else who actually goes down to Best Buy or something and actually buys a machine
>Hurrr of you make good money you should just throw it into the trash just because you can
What a shitty way of thinking.
What do you think my time is worth? I don't work weekends. I don't have anything important to be doing of a Saturday. Building a piece of hardware that will last several years to save a good amount of money is a good use of that time
ricer desktops are stupid and they get old really fast.
I built my last (and first) PC but I'm probably going to buy a refurbished prebuilt for under $200 to upgrade and stick my GPU in there.
>the time you spent building your pc is money you've lost
That kind of mindset will drive you crazy, by that logic it's not worth doing anything with your time that doesn't directly make you money.
>What do you think my time is worth?
probably not enough to be paid as an electrical engineer
You want LED lights? Just buy some LED strips and find some strategic places for them in your case, or buy some case fans with LED's. Not that tough.
A lot of times when the subject has come up in games I play a lot of people are playing on some shitty laptop. It's always in games you have no business playing on a laptop too.
These are the people complaining about performance issues 9/10.
As a token lazy fuck. I would want to buy a already build PC but as a cheapfuck I don't want to spend more money for just someone to piss around for 3 months.
What is the max price you'd pay for a PC?
This is either advanced level bait or you are posting from some care home for the hopelessly autistic
I bought my first PC in late 2012. Since then I have replaced every part over the years to a point where my current PC does not have a single piece of the original PC except for the hard drives, and they aren't even my main drives anymore.
If I won the lottery today and I was going to build my dream machine, I wouldn't get anybody else to build it. I would do it myself. PC building is shit simple these days. Between manuals and youtube, any newbie can build their own PC.
A friend of mine wanted to get a computer built for her boyfriend. She is a typical normie who didn't even know what RAM stood for. She got some guidance on what parts she should use for her build, but after that she built it completely on her own with just the manuals. No outside help whatsoever. Her boyfriend still uses the computer to this day without any problems. Computer building really is that easy.
what about those sites that let you pick each and every individual parts, build it for you, and then send it?
for what i saw, they're cheaper than prebuilds, and only slightly more expensive than buying the same part and building it on your own
i mean, unless im missing something, it should remove every negative aspect of prebuilds, since you decide what you get, they can't cheap out on anything, and the little overprice is justified by the service they offer
Once again, what a shitty way of thinking. You know the saying, "if you want something done right, do it yourself"? It's really the truth, especially in regards to housework or building something like a personal computer.
If budget isn't a concern falcon northwest.If you're willing to overpay a fair amount nzxt build. If you want a good deal, build your own or look for prebuilts on sale on Amazon, Walmart, newegg, etc. Be warned though that cheap prebuilts often cheap out on motherboards and psus.
But why not build it yourself? It's incredibly easy as well as being fun and satisfying
built my own and helped 3 friends in building theirs
i have no idea about overclocking or watercooling but building a generic $1000-1300 pc is piss easy,
the thing i was scared most about was the thermalpaste but that ended up being 90% elitistic shit since all applying it "wrong" does is maybe 1-2°C temp difference
Any price is fair depending on what you plan to do with it. See what cards give you the performance you want check what components are compatible and built from there. If you want steady 60fps and 1080p then something cheap, if you want to be part of the true master race then you have to invest.
>mfw every pc part store here offer build for free
feel good
Yes and no on both ends. Built my first PC from scratch, but my whole fucking system died during the height of the crypto bs last year, so when I replaced it I went prebuilt. That being said, the only things left from the prebuilt are the case, the mobo, and the cpu... and I'm swapping the mobo and CPU soon when Zen 2 hits.
I built mine, but I wouldn't fault anyone for buying a prebuilt in today's market. They offer really competitive prices for the components, to the point that building an equivalent pc from scratch would cost almost as much. It's not the early 2000's anymore. Prebuilts are not ridiculously overpriced and laptops can make a good gaming machine if you want to get something high powered or an eGPU.
Bros why is cable management so hard
just plug it in, pull it through and stuff it all in the back. who gives a fuck if the back is a rats nest
There are a lot of cases with glass side panels. And you can easily put in some lights with case fans.
I bought a gaming laptop. Right before I stopped caring about games.
So I have a $1600 porn machine that I sometimes use to do my taxes or write a little. Thankfully not poor but still a waste.
It should be very easy for any decent case. For a non-modular power supply just stuff all the excess cables in an empty hard-drive bay.
cooking is satisfying as well, but every once in a while i still go out to eat, because they cook better than i do, and it's nice not having to do it while also being served.
the same goes for PC building, i did it multiple time, but last time i did what i said in my post.
So instead of waiting between 1 and 2 weeks for the first part to arrive and over a month and a half for the last, plus having to build it and install OS and drivers, i paid 80 bucks more than i would have if i bought the parts individually and got my pc ready and delivered after 3 weeks.
when prebuilds cost literal hundreds more then building it your own and you also get cheaper parts because you can't pick them, fuck prebuilds.
but when i get the exact same system made for me for just 80 bucks more, plus having to wait less time, i think it's worth it
Built my own. Got my gf to build it with me. I broke up with her because I got some rich piece of ass who wanted my big cock. My ex beat me a few months later in front of my friends and got her banned from the bar. I fucked her asshole a few times and came in her mouth a bunch so who cares at this point.
Anyway, it's cheaper to build your own PC
dont bother, it's a waste of time
>it's cheaper to build your own PC, so I built my own.
fixed your post
>parts take weeks or months to arrive
What the shit?
Do you live on the ISS or something? It shouldn't be more than 3 workdays.
For a prebuilt? If you're careful about shopping for the best deals, you can get a pretty solid 1440p machine for $1000 - $1300.
walmart.com
Don't waste your money on the expensive stuff. At the higher end, it's better to just build something yourself, or get those special services that build them for you.
the dad bought me prebuilt ibuypower shortly after telling him about the one I built in 2008 having gpu fan issues
honestly I don't mind it. It's not like a gateway or dell it's got asus and msi parts in it and shit no offbrand names
sometimes the part you want is not available and will be restocked later in time, in other online stores it's overpriced, and where it's not there's no fast delivery and/or shipping costs are absurd.
so your choices are to wait either for the part to be restocked next week or for it to arrive in a couple weeks in the best case scenario if you get it where there's no fast delivery
paying more, way too much, either to get the overpriced one or the one with absurd shipping costs is obviously not worth it
my ryzen 2700 and my new case and mother board are coming in tomorrow fuck pre builts
is that cherrypicking what you're telling yourself to make yourself feel better, fucking boomer?
bought a desktop from a computer good will and popped ina evga psu and ebay r7 360, it runs fine
>wait 2 weeks for a $560 1080ti to be restocked
>get the exact same card in 2 days for $700 on an other online store
>get it in 4 days for $600 + $50 shipping from another online store because it comes from overseas + possible unknown amount of import fees
>cherrypicking
really makes you think
Built mine. Do yourselves a favor though and don't buy from B&H. Buy from newegg, amazon, ebay, outletpc. Do not buy from B&H.
I ordered a 1080 ti from them, and it said it was in stock and available on the day I bought it. It said it'd be here within a week. A week later, it's still not here, I check the store page and my order for the item, and they both say it's not available. I start customer support with them and they're confused, they say that I shouldn't have even been able to order it because they don't have any in stock and they don't plan on getting more.
I ask them "so can I get a refund?" and after a lot of bullshit they gave me one. They should've known something was up from the start and contacted me, but they never attempted to contact me or refund me until I contacted them. Fucking cunts.