So now that the dust settled what is the best prosthetic/combat art?

upgraded flame vent + ichimonji

They're all rather pointless except the umbrella

Shuriken + Ichimonji One Mind is the most dope

same
>unlock ashina cross after fighting that miniboss who spams it
>oh cool i bet it'll auto parry or activate as soon as they're within range
>doesn't
>not even a heavy hit that interrupts like ichimonji
>not even good damage
>AND costs spirit emblems
most disappointing move in the game

skuriken and high monk

lazulite axe + high monk

Undoubtedly the umbrella

>Mist Raven
my nigga

Shuriken is based. Fuck everything else

The shield and hyperarmor axe are probably the most useful and versatile ones but I love Sabimaru the most.

How many esoteric texts are there? I have 14 points in the bank and 4 skill trees so far but nothing's looking really interesting.

Shuriken, firecrackers and umbrella. best art is Shadowrush or Ichimonji

Prosthetic ranking

>Top tier
Umbrella
Shuriken
>High tier
Spear
Flamer
Axe
>Mid tier
Fireworks
Sabimaru
>Gimmick you might never use tier
Whistle
Fan

Also:
>Only good for gold farming
Wind gust fan

I love using the spring-loaded axe to just brute-force my way through the attacks of a mini-boss and deal significant posture damage.

If you have health and/or a resurrection to spare, you can just win through attrition without having to think that much.

The best arts are Ichimonji to punish enemies that got lots of lag between attacks and hyper armor, High monk to punish sweep attacks and Nightjar to hit and run tactics.

Top tier:
>High Monk, Ichimonji Double, Shadowrush/Shadowfall
>Okinaga Flame Vent, Long Spark, Lazulite Shuriken, Spiral Spear, Aged Feather Mist Raven, Piercing Sabimaru, Lazulite Axe, Finger Whistle (use it well and you will never get out of stealth)
>Puppeteer and Bestowal ninjutsu
High Tier:
>Dragon Flash, Nightjar Reversal, Whirlwind Slash, Praying Strikes Exorcism
>Umbrella Shield of all types (loses A BIG chunk of utility on no-talisman runs, otherwise would be top tier), Spring-load Axe, Leaping Flame
Mid tier:
>Floating Passage, Ashina Cross
>All Sabimaru types other than Piercing, all other types of Spear, Great Feather Mist Raven, all types of Divine Abduction, Sen Throw
>Smoke Cloud ninjutsu
Low tier:
>One Mind, Empowered Mortal Draw, Spiral Cloud Passage (WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE EMBLEM COSTS)
>Phantom Kunai, Purple Fume Spark

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It damage enemies through their guard though, it was useful against Owl for me.

Is the flame axe upgrade worht it?

It's pretty mediocre since fire buildup is pretty bad. You will be better off using flame vent and normal axe separately

>infinite confetti
how?

What am I supposed to do with this 'headless' boss next to the bell?
The area slows me down is there a special item for this?

Too bad it lasts 5 seconds and by the time you get lazulite you can buy unlimited confetti.

Nope, gotta stand your ground and deflect its attacks so there is no terror buildup.

ichimoji is good for the posture recovery mainly, I didn't even know it did that until I saw people mention it here and decided to try it in boss fights, really helpful.

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It’s also really clunky input wise, easy to accidentally cancel

The umbrella is omega trash tier

Spotted the charmbabby

Confetti helps deal damage and the purple gourd and pacifying agent help deal with the terror build-up. Skip it until you have plenty of those.

last ability in the prosthetic tree makes it so that you gain the elemental effect of the flame vent or divine abduction into your sword, so after you flame vent if you r1, your sword gets a fire buff.
last upgrade of flamevent makes it so that the fire is blue and hurts ghosts, same effect as divine confetti, so if you use that flame vent then your weapon will get that blue buff which harms ghosts, similar to divine confetti.

>Smoke Cloud ninjutsu
>Mid tier

dude it's the best ninjutsu there is. Converts any kill into more free backstab kills as long as spirit emblems last

divine confetti + r1 spam will break the miasma

>as long as spirit emblems last
You can use the Mibu balloon + tango to get really cheesey with chain backstabs

honestly just torrent the original "prepare to die" version and download DSfix for it (might need to experiment with different versions of DSfix to get it to work, I have no clue what kind of game version it'll have)
with dsfix you can downsample the game which will make it look nicer, disable the DoF
the remastered version LOSES all metallic reflections and the "rough" look of the original like in pic related, and don't listen to people that say 60 fps is broken in dsfix and causes glitches: there are only 3 places in the entire game where 60 fps causes problems and I assure you you won't even notice them

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literally every prosthetic is mega-broken when you max upgrade it
if you disagree you're retarded and don't know how to use them

The ninjutsu are all pretty cool, I hope they add more in the DLC. I like using the blood sword one just to fuck around.

If you buff your sword with the purple/blue flame , are you still able to burn normal enemies and get bonus damage?

If you want to play the original through steam you could buy a key from G2A for like 8 bucks

>best prosthetic
shuriken and crackers
>combat art
ichimonji x2, exorcism strikes and anime move you get from Shura ending

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I heard you can use Mist Raven without being attacked if you use that weak poison that "opens the mind". Did anyone here try it out?

user, you will literally waste all your spirit emblems on one encounter. Bestowal meanwhile makes you a second phase Maria so you just rape everything just for 7 talismans.

it's fucking great
>stealth deathblow the seven spears mini
boss near end of the game
>run to the soldier that's sitting on the ground to the side
>deathblow him and use smoke cloud
>get a stealth deathblow on the mini boss' buddy
you can essentially start the fight 1v1 like this with only one health bar left on the mini boss

I'm not sure, although the blue flame vent doesn't cause burn status, atleast that's what it says on the upgrade itself, I've never really used it since most prosthetics suck.

On my pc PTDE(dsfix) works much better on borderless fullscreen than the remaster, not sure if that's the same for most people, but it seems to work better on a two monitor set up, and I agree, remaster really sucks visually.

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Or you could just puppeteer his odachi buddy.

shitters

my niggers

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I can't get away from ichimonji double. No matter what I try, all the other skills seem bad in comparison. Even high monk.

Ichimonji is too good, plz nerf

Ichimonji becomes nearly worthless once you understand that you NEVER get guard broken as long as you keep deflecting so its posture heal ability is borderline worthless out of NG.

Just make the lilac umbrella with projected force skill and laugh at them. You can move at crouch speed with the umbrella out regardless of the slow down from that gay shit. It also blocks spirit attacks completely. Then you can r1 and hit them hard as if you had confetti.

>Lone Samurai.
>Has another lone samurai with him.
>Lone Samurai.
>Summons 3 dogs.

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I have no idea why I wrote samurai instead of shadow. Please forgive me.

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None.

I started using high monk to counter sweeps, worked great.
Then I found using jump and ichimoji mid jump to be superior, might not do as much posture damage to the enemy but it regenerates some of your posture and allows you to remain aggressive, in fact, that tactic might have been essential in my NG+2 isshin fight with bell and without charm.

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>won't even notice them
I haven't played Remastered but there's 3 ladders that, at least for me, have always made you clip through the floor if you slide down them. Also there's several issues where you get stuck on inclines because of 60fps. Also there's at least 2-3 jumps that you can't make (or are borderline frame perfect) at 60fps. That being said it's still worth it; they ruined the aesthetic in Remastered and you can literally just map a key to toggle 30fps and everything I mentioned becomes a non issue but you're really misrepresenting it.

I'd say it depends mostly. High Monk does do overall more posture damage and pressure but Air Ichimonji has advantage of also deleting the health while keeping good amount of posture damage. The posture recovery isn't much of a issue if you are able to deflect consistently.
For bosses like Owl, Ichimonji is good because of his big HP bar and alot of times he'd jump away and manage to recover his posture. Against Isshin, High Monk felt better choice since I could keep aggressive pressure at him at all times.

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>It damage enemies through their guard though
So does Floating Passage, and its even free.

also thank god the creator of dsfix made the player able to switch between 30 and 60 fps with the push of a button on the fly, helps with the issues you mentioned.

I find that even deflecting increases my posture, it can fill up my posture bar if I'm attempting to remain super aggressive, although I noticed if your bar is full and you deflect, they'll never effectively break your posture, they only break it if you block or are hit directly, sadly I'm not confidant nor good enough to keep my bar full and reliably deflect each hit so the posture recovery from ichimoji is a good and quick reprieve.

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They're all fucking worthless. I replayed the game just to mess around with the prosthetics, but there's absolutely no point to it.

If it's safe I usually just let my posture break. It's an instant reset and you can typically roll away before you eat shit.

>Did anyone here try it out?
I did and it's true.
With poison or fire you can basically teleport whenever you whant.

yeah I noticed most enemy "deathblows" on you are super slow and you can almost always reliably roll away from them, the issue is having posture broken mid enemy combo.

I wish there was a high spirit emblem cap

Oil+Vent is beautiful. Anything that burns will take alot of damage.
Firecrackers is same but quicker or slower but for more damage.
Shurikens are all purpose, gap closers.
Rest of them weren't really impressive.

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This. ichimonji is a crutch for casuals, nothing more. it's useless to actually good players

Idiots. Worlds best speedrunners abuse the fuck out of Ichimonji, it is by far objectively the best Combat Art against bosses because it does so much posture damage.
Literally 3-4 Ichimonjis and you can deathblow any boss.

What’s that do?

It's not even in high tiers among posture damage Combat Arts, especially with that retarded recovery.
Keep using that crutch while all good players has moved on to better things like High Monk raping 70% of boss posture bar on a single sweep punish.

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Shuriken + Ichimoji Double

Anything else is cheese tier. Yes, that includes you, firecracker fags. What's the matter, can't get an opening against the foe without spending emblems? Can't deflect attacks from multiple targets at once? Pathetic.

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how is it a crutch when it's a worse skill
you're the casual here using the easy mode skill

It's a crutch because retards are flocking to it

I killed the dragon and everything is fucked now. But it feels like I've missed tons of shit, I haven't seen Guardian Ape coming back, Hirata estate is still the same, did I fuck up? Do I have to play through completely and try to get everything in NG+?

because it lets bad players recover posture while good players don't worry about posture at all because they deflect everything

don't you kill that exact same guy with he same name in Ashina Castle? He's the one who says "I never would've though a man of your ability could be slain" to the ninja that the Tengu killed when you eavesdrop him

Shinobi firecrackers = long spark > fire umbrella >>>>>>> everything else. Firecrackers are insanely broken and useful in literally every situation. There's a reason that every speedrunner uses them and nothing else.

You can still meet Guardian Ape 2 but you're locked out of the second Hirata Estate.

Imagine not using the whistle on demon of hatred

Posture regeneration is literally worthless, you won't be guard broken as long as you deflect anyway.

Damn. I guess I'll leave that to second playthrough.

not everyone is perfect

Fuck off honorfaggot. I will use everything, even your fucking old aids-ridden mom.

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>He doesn't uses superior purple crackers.

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git gud

2x Ichimonji + Firecrackers

haha you told him

pocket sand is great and I don't care if it's cheese.

I found out that if you use bestowal ninjutsu on a gecko you do poison damage
That's pretty cool

Mist Raven and One Mind because they're the coolest, even if neither is that useful.

>Mist Raven
>Not super useful

after platinuming the game this is my tierlist.

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I never found it that useful, even with me using it regularly just because it was fun. It's handy for getting out of a situation where you're overwhelmed by a lot enemies at once, but I feel like there's a better alternative in most situations.

it's literally instant cast and dodges everything. see a red kanji? just press that control button and you avoid grabs, sweeps, thrusts, 100 hit combos, whatever it may be and reappear behind the enemy ready to punish them

Wtf is this retarded chart you idiot? It literally lacks the most powerful form of Ichimonji, which is charged Double Ichimonji.
It deals by far the largest amount of posture damage out of every move in the game, and it is free to use, and can even perma stunlock some minibosses like Snake Eyes.

Yeah, but it's usually better to just do the appropriate dodge for the attack. I feel like I got a lot more out of a jump kick or a Mikiri counter than I did a Mist Raven dodge, and it let me keep Spirit Emblems for something else. Obviously it's easier to just use Mist Raven, but that's not that huge a benefit.

>needing items to win

Fucking casuals

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why is the fire umbrella so high up?

Charged Ichimonji is already there
It counts both hits because as it is with most multi-hit combat arts, the second does the most posture damage and it still gets cucked out of top 3.
That's not even counting High Monk's unique anti-sweep property that absolutely murderfucks enemy posture.

>firecracker in literally every situation
>shuriken in most situations
Firecrackers are useless if enemy is far away, shurikens on the other hand aren't.

>flame vent lower than the absolute top tier
>kunai that high
>spiral spear, possibly the most damaging 1 talisman attack, that low
>piercing Sabimaru lower than Lazulite one, both lower than a fucking Lazulite Axe
>Mist Raven that low, worst version in the higher tier

That is charged single Ichimonji, learn to read. It lacks Charged Double Ichimonji, which deals more posture damage than anything else.
The chart clearly separates between single and double ichi, and the charged Ichi in there is referring to the single.

The chart incorporates full posture damage from the art including followups. It just shows how much of the posture damage comes from the second attack.
Sorry user, but Ichimonji is just a noob crutch and the charged version is by far the most useless one.

yes. however they aren't useful close range, and they aren't as effective close range. They are also moderately expensive to use and will be deflected if the enemy has spotted you. firecrackers stun/cancel nearly every attack in the game.

Again, if it wasn't the best one, it would not be the only one used in speedruns to kill bosses with ease.
It is objectively the best one.

based retard

mist raven is bad. just block or jump out of the way. why waste spirit emblems?

flame vent is expensive to use, so I find myself using it less. firecrackers interrupt attacks and only cost 2 emblems/cast.

It's easier to acquire than High Monk or Praying Strikes Exorcism that requires an additional detour and more skill points to unlock in less overall useful tree.
Why Ichimionji users are such brainlets?

For 3 emblems with Flame Vent you get
>interrupt
>damage
>flame buff on your weapon
>a fantastic debuff on your enemy
It beats firecrackers on every enemy that is susceptible to fire which is like 99% of bestiary.
Mist Raven includes a strong followup counter attack and allows you to dodge every single attack in the game, it's arguably better than shield on no-talisman run.

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>using spirit emblems for combat arts
Disgusting.

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>spear bearer
>uses a sword
Yes.

It interrupts less than moves than the firecrackers do. It only stuns when it ignites something. The same debuff mechanic exists in this game as exists in other soulsborne titles: the more you apply a debuff, the harder it is to apply it. you will only end up applying it 2-3 times in a fight. The initial damage that you do is equivalent to the damage you can get off during a firecrackers stun. So not only are firecrackers more efficient initially with emblem consumption, you'll get way more out of it in the long run because of the previously mentioned debuff mechanic.

The slight extra damage you get during the mistraven's counter attack is the same that you'd get from attacking after a parry. Just learn to parry/dodge attacks properly. The only attacks that can't be punished by miriki counters/jumps are on both isshin fights, where you will be able to hit him anyways with proper positioning. Again, why waste spirit emblems when parrying accomplishes the exact same thing?

Why are you retarded casual shitters so braindead you can't tell that an ability having no Spirit Emblem cost is also an advantage? You have a limited use of High Monk or other powerful Combat Arts.
Meanwhile with Ichimonji you can literally do entire 3 phase boss fights quickly if you want.

You people are so dumb it hurts.

Lone Shadow, dumb ass.

>the more you apply a debuff, the harder it is to apply it
Stop talking out of your ass. It's not an Etrian Odyssey. The only thing that matters for applying the burn is enemy's internal burn buildup meter. You can even soften it up with an oil to make even fire-resistant enemies shit themselves. You get much more value out of your investment with a Vent compared to firecrackers and i hope i don't need to remind you that burn status literally freezes the enemy posture regeneration.
Meanwhile firecrackers DO have an internal cooldown on stun effect on almost every boss outside of the Corrupted Monk.

>You have a limited use of High Monk
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA
So Ichimonji shitter doesn't even know that High Monk doesn't cost spirit emblems?
Oh fuck, i'm actually laughing now. Keep delivering, user.

I am absolutely not talking out my ass. Their meter get's larger thus taking more casts to ignite.

I think I would prefer this list without all the different upgrade variations.

Just post the best one for each weapon

This combo is the best and i call it shit

Soulsborne is shit
Demon souls is shit
Dark souls is shit
Dark souls 2 is shit
Dark souls 3 is shit
Bloodborne is shit
Sekiro is shit
Any future games will be shit

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Stop embarrassing yourself. There's no difference between Sekiro and souls games in how it handles the status build-up. It's static.

>Stop embarrassing yourself
I know right? you should stop posting get off the internet and go fuck a dog.

it most certainly is not.

You should play BB before Souls desu. You get tired of these games by the final one you play and BB is the best so you should play it with the freshest mindset possible.

Here is a watered down version. I kept some lower tiered stuff for contextual reasons.

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Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Almost always has to be used shortly after oil, and the fire effect barely even lasts.

hes one of those cocksuckers who is blind to everything but what he wants to believe in.

>imagine being a shitter

Fire effect lasts long enough for you to deal considerable posture damage since it won't reduce naturally even if enemy has high amount of vitality left.
Flame Vent is a literal posterboy weapon, it's an undeniable top tier.

I find it hard to implement prosthetics into my combat unlike trick weapons in bb. They feel like they tickle if I manage to land a hit assuming it doesnt get deflected in my face

There's nothing hard about this even with the slow-ass prosthetics like the axe. Either wait for an opening, do it from a jump attack, stun enemy with the ash or incorporate the prosthetic into your combo like doing r1 string, ending it with the nightjar reversal backflip followed by immediate use of firecrackers.

Does more damage candy mean you hit enemies posture harder or does it only work on vit?