>b-but epic games store is going to destroy steam !!!!
B-but epic games store is going to destroy steam !!!!
Xavier Anderson
Logan Thompson
Majority of that shit is useless when playing a video game
Jordan Roberts
1. Does it have the videogames I like?
2. Does it offer them for less than its competition?
That's all that matters.
Owen Young
You think Borderlands 3 is the end of these exclusivity deals? Know this is actually Tencents doing, not only do they own League, Pubg, and basically Fortnite through epic, then there's Unreal 4. They're now coming for the PC storefront. They wan't to control PC gaming cause it can actually overtake the sports and movie industry in the future, they aren't going to stop. You can also bet they'll pull a pay for multiplayer subscription on PC if they do get their way. You can keep posting that chart but it'll mean jack shit if they keep doing these exclusivity deals, which they will.
Parker Hill
The only thing I remotely care about is Epic not having cloud saves
Sebastian Kelly
At least add some basic shit like users reviews or a shopping cart ffs.
William Price
>epic could have a barebones games launcher for people who don't want steam's social media lite features
>instead they just throw money at publishers for exclusives and piss people off
Cooper White
Why does Steam trigger Epicucks so much?
Bentley Thomas
>3rd party keys
from stolen credit cards
>account sharing/offline play/regional pricing/wish lists
piracy lite
>achievements
yeah, not gonna even
>big picture/tv mode/streaming to other devices
maybe get a console?
>broadcasting
I seriously hope you guys don't do this
you can't compete with twitch thots anyway
>cloud saves
yeah, that is pretty useful
>curation/curators
I legit don't know what that is
>user profiles/forums/user created guides
how about you PLAY the game, not read a full 100% walkthrough, as you do or argue about stupid shit that doesn't matter
>gifting
yeah, that is a good feature on steam
>groups
same
>inventory/marketplace/trading cards
same as "cheevos". You're better off without it
>library
joke's on you, epic doesn't have one yet
>linux/mac
lol
>workshop
yeah, useful on steam
>paid for exclusives
yeah and guess what? the publishers/devs accepted their offer. They were the ones with the choice.
>user reviews/player count data
just to drum up drama on Yea Forums in your autistical joy that a game you don't like is doing poorly
two factor auth, vr support would be nice, but really not mandatory
Oliver Rogers
Epic aren't competition they want to replace one "monopoly" with a worse and true one.
Jonathan Carter
>from stolen credit cards
Green man gaming was able to gain a foothold as on online retailer by consistently selling games steam keys for cheaper than the norm early on. Not every site that sells keys is a scam.
Aiden Fisher
That epic logo should be the Tencent logo, fuck china.
Parker Clark
Steam isnt a monopoly though. They´re just the market leader when it comes to PC launchers. That´s it.
Jace Williams
>thing I don't care is 100% useless to others too
Chase Richardson
>steam takes a 30% cut. 30%!
>failing to mention it's common practice for a digital distributor to take a 30% cut
Kevin Williams
Do you seriously expect the shortsighted selfish pricks on Yea Forums to consider anyone besides themselves? 'it doesn't affect me so I don't care' is the MO around here.
Oliver Young
>i dont like it so its useless
dumbass
Anthony Cooper
>Devs think this is too much why so many created their own launchers
>Finally another store opened up offering a much less cut
>Companies now flock and sell their games there even if it make zoomers seethe
>"REEE BUT IT'S THE STANDARD!"
Cooper Walker
Its a standard because steam's the standard, idiot
Kayden Gomez
How does any of these affect me when playing a game?
Why the fuck would I use a store to do social shit with?
Nathan Evans
>trading cards
Kevin Nguyen
>dude valve should waste more resources adding stuff easily accessible on the internet like a calculator and Paint program and Excel program instead of actually making games
morons
Nathan Ramirez
>Monthly Security Breaches
>Steam
>NO
Reminder that Steam has had one of the biggest Data leaks in history and security problems over and over again.
Where is even the source of Epic store having monthyl secuity problems?
Kevin Martinez
>devs created their own launchers
Wrong. Publishers created their own storefronts because they wanted all the jew golds for themselves with no middleman to pay.
>Finally another store opened up offering a much less cut
And good on epic. That's a good way attract the game makers. Now, what are they doing to attract the game players? Oh. Right.
>steam invented digital distribution
Idiot.
Brody Taylor
>Now, what are they doing to attract the game players? Oh. Right.
Having all the good games. The latest Metro on PC sold much more than any of their other games despite all the seething VaIvedrones "boycotting" it.
Noah Ortiz
this is a steam thread not a valve thread you retard, i dont care if valve is retarded when making games, im talking about steam
Dylan Hill
>It's another episode of man-children railing against the good guy Gaben
Adrian Clark
Stop being a moron, moron. None of that shit makes sense to have on a games launcher. You know what does make sense though? A friends list, messaging, reviews.
Evan Bell
That's why he put the word monopoly in quotes you dumb nigger.
Brayden Price
Based EPIC keep making LE GABEN ARMY butthurt.
Grayson Perry
>457422262
>grasping for (you)s
Luke Peterson
Thats not a security breach you posted
Asher Williams
Already two months of Exclusivity deal bullshit and Epic has to reduce the wait time from one year to six months for Borderlands 3
That's honestly telling me that this shit's probably gonna stop if we don't see some massive boost to the user count by E3
Nathan Fisher
Oh great, so their offer to the consumer is console war exclusivity bullshit. I'm sure people just love how epic is holding new releases hostage. Don't offer better prices or a better service, just pay for exclusivity so they have no choice but to use your shit if they want to play the latest game.
Camden Howard
Valve run steam retard
You know what doesnt make sense though? Boardcasting, trading cards, user profiles
Brayden Allen
>so they have no choice but to use your shit if they want to play the latest game.
But Steam started the whole thing with being forced to do that. There's countless games that forced you to use Steam to paly.
Lincoln Bell
And yet Steam is still less bloated and friendlier to use. How do they do it?
John Sullivan
>cloud save is useless
David Reed
>Boardcasting
I've watched friends play games before. It has a use.
>trading cards
Completely indifferent.
>user profiles
Also indifferent. I'm sure people who have online only friends appreciate it.
2/3 of the things you mentioned, I couldn't care less about. That doesn't mean they shouldn't exist.
>but it's a waste of resources
That would go to what? You think gaben chose trading cards over less bugs or something? You think profiles came at the cost of something else?
Josiah Long
Boy I'm locked out my Epic account for 4 months now. If it wasn't such a shitty store I would be more bothered but they simply won't let me login because of a fucking mobile authenticator.
Now, I've tried contacting their support and they didn't even replied.
Fuck Epic.
Kevin Rogers
>it's somehow Steam's fault people get infected with malware or send their password and credit card number to a catfish
Next you'll be blaming it for people installing Chinese spywa-
Eli Edwards
Yeah bro we need excel programs, just cause you don't want it doesn't mean it shouldn't exist :)
Jeremiah Harris
Hackers can literally steal your account by sending a link
Samuel Foster
If Steam is pro consumer why do they continuously allow publishers to wipe older or pre "remaster" versions of their games from the store just to force people to purchase the newest version?
If Steam is pro consumer, why do they not test older games and ensure they are working on modern OS like GOG does?
If Steam is pro consumer why did they lead the forefront on paid mods, lootboxes, early access and DRM?
If Steam is pro consumer why did they trojan horse an always online DRM system and storefront into their most anticipated game?
If Steam is pro consumer why do they force you to agree to a ToS which states they can and will share and sell your data to third party partners, or else lock you out of your account with no way to download any game you have purchased since they offer no version of offline install?
Bentley Harris
This. Almost everything that's marked as a positive on the Steam side is useless trash. Trading Cards? You're actually defending these? The notoriously shit BPM? 3rd Party Keys? The marketplace? User reviews? These are all negatives. I'd say the forums too, but that might be a bridge to far, though they are cited as a huge part of why publishers are going to Epic.
Michael Walker
>but steam started it!
Steam doesn't PAY publishers to use steamworks. They don't PAY publishers to not release on other store fronts.
Colton Martinez
Thank god EGS doesn't have them. I dread the day it gets a shopping cart...
Mason Richardson
Literally, why do you care? What does it cost you?
Sebastian Morris
Why are you running so many dupes?
Alexander Sanders
It bloats the entire program
Gavin Clark
developers don't want reviews because then gamers can make educated purchases rather than simply buying whatever game is hyped on social media
Blake Kelly
Not even that.
Lincoln Gray
>457418251
>cloud saves
>3rd praty keys
>account sharing
>forums
>gifting
>groups
>library sorting
>linux support
>workshop
>offline play
>regional pricing
>two factor authentication
>controller support
>guides
>reviews
>useless
just off yourself already doesn't even deserve a (You)
Daniel Gomez
thats your fault for clicking it dumbass
Isaac Kelly
I fear what'll happens in 6 months.
Juan Gomez
I'd be interested in knowing if anyone's tests older and newer versions of steam. You say it's bloat, but I don't even notice all the extra shit since I don't use them. The only way that stuff would affect me is if it caused actual performance issues.
Juan Clark
They actually don't want user reviews because user review bombs are a very real thing.
Brandon Hall
And if they were just launchers this would be valid but they're storefronts as well which is the entire reason they compete.
Oliver Brown
Why would anybody defend a game store not allowing reviews? You're a fucking idiot
Parker Martinez
Review bombs are one of the few remaining ways consumers can make their voices heard. Anyone who says otherwise is either a shill or a corporate dick sucker.
Andrew Smith
>Reminder that Steam has had one of the biggest Data leaks in history
>cuts out the date
>article is over 3 years old
>shortly after 2WA was live
You fucks really stop at nothing.
Nicholas Jenkins
And lets not forget that Epic had an actual data breach for months leading to god knows how many compromised accounts jsut this year.
Anthony Turner
>call epic a piece of shit
>YEAH BUT STEAM
We're not talking about steam, sweetie. We're talking about epic and what a piece of shit it is.
Chase Lewis
>>steam invented digital distribution
Basically, yes. They were the first platform like that that succeeded and as such set all the industry standards.
Jaxon James
>Consumers are holding developers hostage, and putting them through hell. Then they complain about games not being good enough.
this might be the dumbest sentence i ever had the displeasure of reading
Gavin Lee
This.
Lucas Johnson
OP clearly compares to steam
>WE ARENT TALKING ABOUT STEAM GUIZ
Wyatt Carter
>Basically, yes.
Imagine being this fucking retarded. Even back then, steam wasn't the only game in town.
Samuel Moore
>YEAH BUT STEAM
Elijah James
>epic has figured out a business model where games don't need to sell to make money
how does this work? that's contradictory to basic economics
Christian Reyes
Learn to read more than two fucking words. Nobody but you doubts that Steam was the first succesful digital distribution service.
>b-but direct2drive
Jeremiah Young
Having a ton of bugs at their back pumping money into the company.
Jack Ward
>they were the first to find success
Wrong again, dipshit. Steam didn't invent the 30% cut, they didn't even popularize it. They adhered to a standard, they didn't invent it. This fact isn't going to change no matter how much you cry.
Evan Gomez
>implying it's only one user calling you out for your retardness
Yeah, keep believing that.
Easton Cooper
>a bunch of extra bullshit
>the client is total garbage, steam's ui is probably the worst of any client other than maybe origin
why not hate both?
Owen Bailey
Please tell us who invented it.
Jason Wright
I know that when steam came out it was utter shit lacking in every regard and everyone hated it. It was only because Valve's games were exclusive to the service and because they had good deals on the games there that people started liking it. Sounds familiar?
Jacob Stewart
>15 years ago is comparable to now
You are the dumbest person I've talked to in the last hour
Justin Brooks
>implying the same thing isn't happening
a lot of people used Epic launcher just for Fortnite and now with their free games and more exclusives it's growing even stronger.
Valve will have to compete again.
Jack Harris
>You can also bet they'll pull a pay for multiplayer subscription on PC if they do get their way
They'll get wrecked if they try
Carter Jones
>when only a small number of them even plays on pc
How is Valve even suposed to compete outside of buying off devs then? Their store is leagues and bounds better then what Epic or any other dev/publisher has. There is no way for them to "compete" except throwing money at devs the way Epic is doing it.