Why are Smash fans such hypocrites?

> Shits on Geno and Isaac because they aren't relevant and calls them literal whos
> Wants Banjo in despite being on the same level as those two and hasn't had a game since 2008

Banjo is even more irrelevant considering Golden Sun had a game in 2010. Why are Banjies like this?

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Geno is a one off character from one of a dozen Mario RPGs. Isaac's series were serviceable but unremarkable RPGs. Banjo Kazooie was a prominent second party icon of Nintendo and a series that established so much for 3D platformers/collection games.

Now back to AT camp and PNGville you sunfags and puppetfucks go.

Imagine actually believing this

He's not wrong though

The first Banjo probably outsold the entire Golden Sun series

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>GOLDEN SUN AND ONE OFF MARIO RPG CHARACTER WERE MORE INFLUENTIAL AND REMEMBERED I SWEAR

>t. salty weeb

You're getting Edelgard whenever you like it or not

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Banjo Kazooie did define 3D Collectathon, a genre that proceeded to... fade out, it didn't even really last a Generation. No games were as commited as the Banjo duology & DK64, which are arguably their downfall.

rosterfags are fucking retarded what else is new

Golden Sun was never as popular as Banjo-Kazooie might be why.

All of you are fucking retards

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About Piranha Plant's addition:
>I’m actually not paying too much focus on the surprise element when we introduce a new fighter. The surprise element quickly fades once the announcement has been made. Rather, I believe it’s important to have a good balance as a game. In the past titles in the series, Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B. and Duck Hunt Dog were some of the examples we offered outside of people’s typical expectations. However, if we don’t have these types of fighters, and we only had typical “hero/heroine” type fighters in the lineup, there’s not much difference. It’s probably not very interesting. Correct?
>Also, unlike some main characters from some (not widely known) franchises, Piranha Plant is a character everyone knows well. And, I want to make sure to remind everyone that it is a limited-time offer fighter everyone can get for free as an early-purchase bonus.

None of your shitty literal WHO dead characters are getting in, only characters that are well known and from alive series are getting in.

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>Super Mario Odyssey is the best selling 3D Mario touting to be a return to that style of game design
>Yooka Laylee garnered lots of attention and successful financing for promising a return to that kind of game
>A Hat in Time reviews well as a revival of collectathon play
>"fade out"
Cry more, bitch.

>yooka laylee
that sure worked out huh

He’s in.

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So like this?

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Banjo made a lasting impression on audiences that grew up with the N64. Even if Banjo hasn't had many games, you cannot deny that it's impressive that Banjo has managed to remain in the gaming community's collective consciousness for two decades. A spiritual knock-off promising a taste of the Banjo magic managed to accumulate $2,717,500 on Kickstarter for Christ's sake.

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Now THIS is cherrypicking

>exclusively third party
Why do people still do this?

One mediocre game does not tarnish an entire genre, fuckface.

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People still believe the fake Reggie quote, despite having the internet at their disposal and being able to check what he actually said in less than thirty seconds.

Wasn't a good game, but didn't it sell well

Neither Odyssey or AHIT are as commited to the collectathon part as the Banjo Duology.

Do rosterfags even actually play smash? Or are they just interested in the verification of the video game character they like being among "video game all stars"?

Golden is the single most bandwagoned franchise in Smash history.
Dragon Quest gets called out for being unknown in the west, but even it sold about as Golden Sun in the west, even outselling it on the DS era (All this not counting Japan, were one sells 4 million and the other 400 thousand at best)
Banjo as a franchise outsold Golden Sun massively, just because their last game was two years earlier than GS it doesn't mean they are forgotten, the same way many games that predated GS are still more relevant because they were at least popular in their time, GS was never popular. It came when Nintendo needed RPGs for GBA and went into obscurity when actual RPGs arrived on the DS.

What? Odyssey was even MORE like Banjo than SM64/Sunshine ever were.

And what did Golden Sun define?

A Hat in Time is more like Super Mario Sunshine. Why do people compare it to Banjo when they're almost nothing alike?

And within the game's kingdoms always lies a more linear route that can be used to complete the game. It's up to the player to explore or not. In the Banjo Duology or DK64, such things as notes or bananas indicate a sort of road to follow, but aside from these, there's no escaping the collecting. Odyssey understood the possible tedium that come with collectathon games, and left the choice up to the players to play the game in a more linear way. It's an evolution of the genre.

Yooka-Laylee was disappointing considering how much money that they had to work with but the incompetence of Playtonic doesn't take away from the fact that the fans funded it within a matter of days and it had 2 million + dollars in total funding when they originally only asked for about 260,000. That game proved the demand for BK is still alive even after Nuts and Bolts crashed the franchise.

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Odyssey was basically a Banjo game with a Mario skin.

The comment that AHIT was used to respond to was about collectathons as a whole, not Banjo. Retard.

But I also want Isaac and Geno in addition to Banjo. In fact, they should've been in the game by now instead of fursuit Johnson, random mario enemy and guy from playstation game.
They had a whole ballot and the only characters they pulled from it were Rool and the Inklings. (which were going to be in anyway regardless)
Then they fill their sticker quota by making the rest popular characters? What kind of godforsaken deal is that?
If you're gonna make fan favorites playable then make them all playable. That way you can add whatever stupid shit you want. You could add in Hammer Bros and no one would mind because we have characters people have asked for.

If Banjo comes in, it'll be after Steve, Sakurai already pleased the manchild part of the community with Ridley, Simon and K.Rool plus the returning veterans, now it's time to let the kiddies play with the Minecraft guy

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Golden Sun defines nothing. It has no business in Smash Bros.

So, if you want a character in Smash,
you don’t play it? That’s retarded, user.

why do g*nofags pretend their reddit puppet isn't below every other character that gets begged for smash?
i don't even think banjo is relevant enough to be in the game, but you're delusional if you think g*no is even on that level.

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Redpilled to the heavens

>but it wasn’t IDENTICAL!!
No shit retard, it’s called evolving the genre. Odyssey is what Banjo-Threeie would have been if Rare had been left in the more competent hands of Nintendo rather than getting bought by Microsoft.

Kiddies already have Inklings, Isabelle, Incineroar, and Joker.

zoomer detected

Yeah and I'm saying a Mario 64/Sunshine style game isn't a collectathon. It's just a 3D platformer with a mission structure.

Sakurai pleased the west with that, its now full back to Japan town.

>Banjo made a lasting impression on audiences that grew up with the N64.
which was a very small audience, all things considered. the n64 was a flop.

> Calls him a zoomer
> Literally says it in the article
Fucking retard

incineroar and joker are for the boomers. zoomers want g*no because their favorite youtuber told them to want him.

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> Banjies actually think their dead bear will be in
You already got BTFO by based Incineroar, do you really want to be dissapointed Again?

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Do you collect mcguffins and learn new abilities to progress?

Yes?

It’s a collectathon.

Sunshine was a collectathon too, it was just more platform focused. Galaxy broke the trend by going full platformer and removing the exploration.

You are being theoritical at this point.
I'll just say that i'm fine with Banjo in Smash, I do think that he is enough of an important face of the N64's landscapes, which is an important Nintendo console, for him to be in. I just don't think he's all that influencial.

They're gonna get more then

>36 million people bought the n64
>it’s a flop!!
Based retard

>fucking retard
you're aware other things were said that weren't in that article buckaroo

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>not wanting a character
you guys do know that you can just not play as them if they're in, right? it's a fighting game.

Won't prevent me from running into that character who is, at best, an eyesore, and at worst, a chore to fight against.

>meanwhile, 102.5 million people bought the ps1
>nintendo went from market leader to distant second place
>even managed to lose to the SATURN in japan
how was the n64 not a massive flop? nintendo still hasn't fully recovered from it.

I want anyone who isn't another shitty anime character with a sword. That's already half the roster.

Probably cause you weren’t alive in the 90s. Banjo was big back then. Being top 10 on the N64 was huge considering how much smaller the industry was. Banjo was one of the more recognized IP of that era. He was comparatively bigger than Splatoon, and defined a genre that flooded an entire generation, which then evolved into multiple other genres.

>Also, unlike some main characters from some (not widely known) franchises, Piranha Plant is a character everyone knows well.
Sounds pretty clear to me, Plant got in because it's a character eveyrone knows well compared to someone like Banjo.

honestly, only reason i wanted geno is since melee they're 5 are 5 mirrored characters for every 1

That's stupid. Mario 64/Sunshine and Banjo/DK64 are both 3D platformers but they're structured nothing alike. If Mario was a collectathon then he'd be the one that defined the genre instead of Banjo.

Who does Japan want in again?

I think the problem there is that pretty much the only first party characters that have a chance are new Pokemon and Fire Emblem reps

Something like Astral Chain is way too new and unproven, something like ARMS only got an AT so what chance does it have? Shit like Dixie, Bandana Dee or whatever are base roster material at most.

Outside of maybe FE or Pokemon, I'm pretty sure it's just gonna be a third party fest. We already have Joker and "Brave" is 99% most likely to be a Dragon Quest character, so already that sets the tone.

Autism.

At least the faggots crying for them will shut up online.

>UUBL's List of Pokémon is practically all offensive Pokémon
>UU's Meta is dominated by the likes of Fat Balance and defensive playstyles
Is it just that the UU Staff can't fucking handle their precious Stall cores getting broken? For god's sake, is Breloom that fucking bad in a tier with the likes of Crobat, Doublade, Amoonguss and more that i'm forgetting?

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Imagine actually believing that we would get a character like Banjo when actual relevant characters like Ashley and Bandana Waddle Dee couldn't get in despite being much more popular.

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>101 million people bought a CD player that also had games
Thanks for outing yourself as a Zoomer. Nintendo was still the face of the gaming industry in gen 5, it was the PS2 that tipped the scales, but it was hardly a flop considering Sony’s rise was by tapping into a new market. The N64 was only marginally lower in sales to its predecessors, abd that’s only cause a relatively small industry was getting more competitive. No one thought the 64 was a flop you stupid zoomer.

Back then it wasn’t common for a console to sell 100 million units. Games weren’t was big back then.

wrong thread user

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Shit I meant to post this on /vp/

Mario 64 created the genre, Banjo defined it. So much so that BK/T literally influenced Sunshine in a number of ways.

Ashley is just a minor character from a minor franchise.

I think Bandana Dee is a victim of Sakurai's bias against the Kirby games he didn't make.

I live in Japan, and plenty of my friends go nuts at the possibility of Banjo being in. Most just never thought it was even on the cards.

Dee actually still has a shot, I'd be much more surprised if Banjo made it in before him or Dixie, Dixie and Dee are the last 2 Nintendo characters who should get in smash desu

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>diddy kong but with dk up b
c'mon, user, hasn't he suffered enough?

I don't even give a fuck about banjo

>plant got in because it's a character everyone knows

no one knew who the fuck pit was for a long time along with
>game and watch
>ice climbers
>little mac
>duck hunt

banjo and geno aren't in because nintendo doesn't have the rights to them.

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>Dee gets in
>Nu Kirby music & a stage comes along too
>Faggots feel like the Kirby representation is finally " complete "
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Banjo, Geno, Bandana Dee, Viewtful Joe and Erdrick.

and yes i'm fucking aware
>nintendo doesn't have the rights to insert character X here

that doesn't mean company X has to be open about it with certain chars.

Kirby already does enough fanservice within its own series. It doesn't need smash for something not to be "left to rot"

>Little Mac
>Duck Hunt
Nigga Duck Hunt sold 28 fucking millions. Aside from the especially young crowd, Duck Hunt has ALWAYS been an iconic character. Even earlier days of the Internet were booming with parodies of Duck Hunt and the Duck Hunt Dog was always known as one of Vidya's more iconic " trolls ".

>only characters that are well known and from alive series are getting in.
so king k rool and ridley right.
and let's not spin this, samurai literally says those are the reasons piranha plant got in, not the reasons for ANY fighter to get in. Eat shit.
>Banjo made a lasting impression on audiences that grew up with the N64
yeah so would any remarkable game for any generation that grew up playing if you fucking halfwit, banjo isn't any more special to a kid that grew up in that era than glover or chameleon twist, only difference is that it sold more

based

Honestly I've gotten to a point of indifference, I once hated the idea of Banjo being in, but the more I look at the potential uniqueness and moveset I'm now indifferent, same with Steve, if we get Steve, good, I have more Minecraft memories and some of my friends would be happy, if we get Banjo, good too, some friends of mine also want him in and their fans would be happy.

>Viewtful Joe
BASED JAPS

Easiest semi-echo that'll get them profit, you think they care about balancing at this point when DLC is a thing

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Actually based and redpilled.

>101 million people bought a CD player that also had games
no, they bought a game console with more games than just 3d platformers, that also happened to play cd's on the side.
the saturn had a cd player too, but nobody outside of japan bought it because it was an overpriced shit console with no games.
>Nintendo was still the face of the gaming industry in gen 5
not really. the n64 back then was like the xbox brand now: only relevant in north america. the world in general didn't care about it at all, which is why it lost that generation badly.
>N64 was only marginally lower in sales to its predecessors
the nes almost doubled the n64's sales, and the n64 also quite a bit less than the snes.

Ridley and K. Rool are well known and from alive series

>forgetting Toad
literally more iconic and relevant than BWD and Ashley combined

>so king k rool and ridley right.
yes, k.rool and ridley are both well known and their series continue to get new games.

Toad is probably never going to happen under Sakurai's watch unless there's a big Ridley-esque outcry for him. I feel the same way with Bandana Dee.

Sakurai updated Peach's moveset to utilize Toad more. I think that's as good as it's gonna get for him.

Yes, because competition in the market considerably expanded after the NES you moron.

In the worst fucking way. Blue coins are a crime. I'll do fucking laps around DK64 before ever considering to touch Sunshine again.

Any Banjo fan that shits on other picks like Geno and Issac are falseflaggers. Plus I love how disingenuous you haters are by ignoring Rare Replay that was released in 2015.

Captain Toad, however...

is a rarely seen background cameo

*unzips dick*

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Peach and Daisy's throws already use Toad in a prominent way, and Captain Toad is out of the question, the outcry isn't there for any of them, Toad could be more iconic than BWD, but more viable? Hell no

Are you implying he shouldn't be in?

Shit, guys, Toon Link is out...

>being this out of touch
they're literally who's to everyone except die-hard fans, have some self-awareness

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pit and ice climbers were among the most requested characters since smash 64:
sourcegaming.info/2015/03/23/if-there-were-a-smash-2-poll/
punch-out and duck hunt are two of the most iconic retro games.

How about no? Minecraft is big enough.

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>PPlant gets in due to iconic status and recognizability
>Somehow Toad, a character which is more iconic and recognizable than Plant, is not viable
What the fuck is your reasoning?

Take the mask off, Steve. We all know it's you.

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Is this the stealth Banjo thread?

>pit and ice climbers were among the most requested characters since smash 64:

So, like Banjo?

>Comparing Banjo-Kazooie to glover or chameleon twist
Based Smoothbrain

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banjo didn't even get the most votes among rare characters. and that was at his series' peak. now the franchise is dead and has gone over a decade with no games.

You forget that the DK series moved on WITHOUT King K.Rool.

I'm actually among the latter.
However, I do follow competitive Melee, so I'm not completely out of it.

Simple, that Toad was given a role in the game, to be part of a moveset, nothing more

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> Byleth, Joker, Sobble, DoA Girl, Agnes
Have fun with your newcomers Yea Forums

what modern day fornite kiddo actually knows who the fuck Duck Hunt is? Do kids pop up at lunch tables after recess and talk about how they shot X amount of ducks? No, the only way they knew about it was if their parents went on about
>back in my day Duck was popular in the day

and those sales also count units shipped with the NES meaning it was a game you got by default.

Should we put tetris blocks in there because they sold 5 mill without being shipped with the console?

it's still a Nintendo owned character, they can just dig his grave and use him again for whatever if he was ever to fall in obscurity again

It's weird sometimes to be reminded that stuff like Pikmin actually hasn't sold all that well over the years despite it being pretty 'active' at least as far as how much Nintendo seems to reference it and talk about it. Also the gap between the Wii and literally every other console is so ludicrously large, casuals are a hell of a drug, no wonder Nintendo was trying everything to keep them satisfied. Though the WiiU seems to have done even worse than the N64 so easy come easy go.

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>banjo didn't even get the most votes among rare characters
you got a source for that buddy?

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I want RE in Smash too but somehow you made a lamer lineup than the 5ch leake, wow.

>No Source
>Muh Relevancy!!!
>Muh Dead franchise!!!

If the series is so dead and so irrelevant, why did pic related happen? Sounds like the series has been relevant for a lot longer than you think if so many people fondly think about it and replay it constantly.

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Olimar should have never been in Smash desu, it's pisses me off that Isaac got shafted despite Golden Sun selling much more and was overall much more popular than Pikmin back then.

Duck hunt sold 30 million copies

Everyone wants their character in Smash, by this logic Sora & Kasumi are in since Disney & Tecmo said they wanted them in Smash

Point here is that people assume dead characters and franchises = Never ever. That was demolished with K.Rool, Simon, and Richter since their last appearances were far longer ago than the time Banjo-Kazzoie's franchise "died". Mega man was essentially dead when he was included and he was 3rd party as well. Not to mention that Banjo's got quite the history with Nintendo.

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Why are Isaacfags so delusional?

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And the next character we got was from a relatively-niche weeb franchise. What's your point again?

Pikmin is a Miyamoto/EAD franchise, Golden Sun isn't.

There you go.

>banjo isn't any more special to a kid that grew up in that era than glover or chameleon twist
Had both Glover and Banjo, nigger. Only thing special about Glover is its soundtrack

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Sora can still happen, and I think Kasumi was deconfirmed because the devs of DOA said they have not been approached by Nintendo after the finalization of the DLC in Nov 2018.

it's over Banjobros....

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You know Simon was technically in Mirror of Fate, which came out in 2013 iirc

Persona isn't dead

Golden Sun would never have lived past the GBA, understand, it got killed because every RPG on the DS rapped it.

>release a shitton of Minecraft Mii skins + stage to milk the children
>use Banjo as fighter pack to please the machildren

Everybody wins.

Most of the people that downplay Banjo's impact are just ignorant zoomers or bland, boring people with no taste.

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Dead 3rd party characters are a tricky subject, pretty sure Simon was put in the roster just because it's been a request since Brawl, granted, same with Banjo, but Microsoft, however, he has a shot now, just not as much as Steve, yet, I'd say it's a 70% - 30% with Steve and Banjo respectively

Millennials don't know who your irrelevant furfag is, he's never getting in

Dead/alive wasn't part of his Pirhana Plant justification.

And Banjo was technically in Rare Replay, released 2015.

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Appearences for the character is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is the franchise being well known & having recent games. The reps itself are chosen via being mascots or the most popular character

Not a new game like Mirror of Fate was though

Wish they could do that but no, if they'll add a character, they'll also add a stage from their series, not a mixmash, UNLESS it's a Nintendo character from an existing series

>shipped with console
they count the units as sold if they shipped with console...

Ah, good thing Smash is only half-aimed at millenials then.

Retard or bait? Plant got in because it's a character everyone knows well, and you know why eveyrone knows the Plant well?

Because it still appears in games

I meant for the Minecraft stage to be separate entirely and Banjo gets his own too, kinda like how Smash 4 had standalone DLC stages too.

Not even a banjofag, but why do you guys do this? You set yourselves up to be eventually humiliated. It's happened before.
>"Ridley will never get in. They won't size him down to be a playable character"
>Ridley gets in
>"Uh, ok. Well, Ridley got in, but K. Rool will certainly never. He's too irrelevant"
>K. Rool gets in
>"Ok fine! K. Rool got in. So what? Banjo on the other hand will never be in, he's western 3rd party..."
You seeing a pattern here? You cling to these non-existent, made up rules as if they're law for whatever reason, spout your "never ever" nonsense, and just end up looking retarded.
At this point I'm almost convinced you all secretly want Banjo in. Because every time you fags shitpost about a character to this degree, they just fucking get in.

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Steve backers are under the assumption that Nintendo is some magpie that only chases the shiniest object. Considering Nintendo are more focused on fan demand, I'd put banjo higher than Steve, not counting the severe design limitations from Minecraft making Steve less likely.

Welp if that's the sole popularity indactor he's going off of then time to remove 2/3rd's of Ultimate's newcomers.

>Not even a banjofag
>Patternfag
Just kill yourself

Vey unlikely, my money's still on Steve, but hey, I'd be down for that

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So who the fuck is even likely a this point aside from FE & PokeShit?

They said the same shit with Waluigi and he's still not in

The only rule that exists is the roster is Sakurai's bitch and he can make it cry as he wants.

Shillpicks. Reminder Joker is in because SEGA's already onboard and wanted more exposure.

Nobody cares about Steve, he's an irrelevant literal who. Just because the game is popular doesn't mean the individual character is

Sephiroth or Sora is basically a given, FF7's the most globally iconic Non-Nintendo game of all time & people will buy anything that has it's name on it. And KH is extremely popular itself

I agree unfortunately, Steve alone's far more likely because >Microsoft, but it's the strategy I'd go with.

bait

Seems like every day Steve gets a new debunking, but for some reason you keep clinging to your Lego knockoff.

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>not as much as Steve
Are you stupid? Who unironically thinks Steve has a chance? Notch said no, and Phil already said he personally wants Banjo in like ages ago. If a Microsoft character is in, it’s 100% Banjo. Like, if it comes down to the odds between Banjo and Steve, it’s literally Steve 0% and Banjo 100%.

The only way Steve gets in over Banjo is if somehow Banjo wasn’t able to get in for some way, AND Sakurai found acway to work him in despite hus shitty animations. It’s not happening, Minecraft is NOT getting a playable character.

Then by this logic we would've had Jack Frost instead of Joker. Haters try to deny it, but Banjo-Kazooie is still well known. Having a recent game is irrelevant(See Duck Hunt, Ice Climbers, Capt Falcon.) Plus the duo has been requested since Melee, only now the hurdles that Sakurai mentioned at that time are broken.

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>Nintendo groups steve in with mario, pikachu, kirby and inkling.
Im sorry banjobros but its over

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donkey kong and castlevania aren't dead franchises.

two songs

It technically was.

>Steve backers are under the assumption that Nintendo is some magpie that only chases the shiniest object.
Steve is a gaming icon, whether you want to believe it or not, it's not just kids that play Minecraft, there's a much bigger audience and demand for Steve just because of how big the game is

>not counting the severe design limitations from Minecraft making Steve less likely.
Dude, if anyone can make a moveset for a literal pile of blocks, it's Sakurai, haven't Plant and Duck Hunt taught you anything?

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He's not getting in anyways, Sakurai rarely picks characters with no future and being a western third party makes his chances even worse than they already are

i already posted the link. james bond trounced him. which makes sense, because goldeneye was actually huge back then unlike banjo.

>castlevania and all of Konami
>not dead

Don't make it worse user.

Prove me wrong Zoomer
This, SE is a bunch of greedy kikes

>Sephiroth likely even though FF got nothing new in ultimate
>Sora likely at all
It'll be erdrick

Falcon got in when F-Zero still got games, X wasn't even a year old when Smash 64 came out

How fucking retarded are you? The point is that people abide by made-up patterns/rules and end up getting embarrassed when things like K. Rool happen because they kept spouting the "irrelevancy" argument like it was law.

Still it was a game that was released. If the series was so dead they would've just dumped it on the Xbox live arcade and left it there. Rare and it's titles were beloved enough to warrent a collection like Rare Replay to market the games off to the current gen of kiddos and nostalgic fans.

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> Implying Disney isn't powerful enough to Shill Sora into Smash
LOL

>muh sakurai can't animate blocks
Rosterfags have the worst coping mechanisms

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based /tpg/ poster

>ITS A PATTERN THAT YOU KEEP SHITPOSTING ABOUT IT AND THEY KEEP GETTING IN
Retarded faggot

Anybody who uses "literal who" as an argument is a dumb relevancyfag who doesn't deserve to live.

Fuck off you autistic falseflagging discord roster faggots

> Considering Nintendo are more focused on fan demand
Why did Joker get in then? Nobody fucking voted for him in the ballot.

Minecraft is currently the most-played game ever behind Fortnite and maybe Pokemon. I'm a Banjofag who's wanted him in since Smash 64 and even I know the odds all too well, most likely the only way he's getting in is if the recent merch implies a revival like Crash's and Spyro's did.

sorry user, not enough buzzwords.

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Means nothing, FF grosssed 3x more then MineCraft. by this logic we would have 6 FF characters right now

omfg lol
it's over, all we need is those unreleased Rare DLC spirits and one of them being Banjo

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It's an edit.

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Notch LITERALLY said no. Phil Spencer, head if Xbox, personally wants Banjo. Nintendo is looking to please fans. Banjo has been requested for decades, and was top 5 in the ballots, he’s currently the MOST requested.

If a Microsoft character is in, it’s gonna be Banjo. Steve can’t get in, cause Banjo is in his way. Your biggest obstacle, is Phil Spencer saying he personally wants Banjo in Smash. That’s a determining factor. It means, every other Xbox option is out of the cards until Banjo is already a part of the roster.

>Implying disney even cares about smash

>Sakurai obviously meant there was no sense making an obscure character like some of the others in Smash (nobody would think say, Shulk is that well-known) a pre-order bonus, or a highly requested character
>"PLANTGANG PLANTGANG NEVER EVER"

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And Reggie said to expect the unexpected. Get fucking dunked on plant nigger.

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I know you're autistic and can't tell which part of the post is the joke, but try to refrain from making yourself look more stupid then you already are.

why does notch's opinion matter for jeb's game?

Fucking idiot.

No it's not

play.nintendo.com/activities/opinion-polls/nintendo-switch-road-trip-fun-poll/

>Steve is a gaming icon
Then why don't I see older gamers wearing Minecraft merch? The creeper and Diamond Sword are far more iconic. Steve backers only began to pop up when Virginben lied about "Minecraft content" Before then there was barely any movement for Steve. Many Minecraft fans would rather have a stage.

>Plant and Duck Hunt
Strawman. Plus look how they work. See how Plant has expressions and can move it's body to reference what it has done over the years? Same applies to Duck Hunt where their moves are based on the light zapper games. Sakurai can make things work, but he needs content to build something off of. He's good, but no god.

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He's not joking though

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Phil.Spencer.said.he.wants.Banjo.

All other arguments are pointless.

>Notch LITERALLY said no
give sauce faggot

Notch isn’t a part of Minecraft anymore

Raw sales alone aren't the sole deciding factor, otherwise Persona wouldn't be anywhere near Smash. Current advertising, popularity picks and whatever is convinient are all part of the equation, and while Banjo isn't outside the realm of possibility Minecraft is a bigger popularity splash. Also Squeenix-bux is exactly why everybody is predicting Sora and Erdrick anyways.

>Hey fellow discord trannies lets make Banjo fans Geno fans and Isaac fans fight each other
>Works every fucking time!
I fucking hate everyone here.

i have an argument:
banjo isn't in smash

He was a part of it when they were deciding this shit.

>Pr bullshit does not exist
He's just dragging you banjokes along. Nintendos gonna want steve for the money.

*AHEM

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He was a part of it when they were deciding this shit. If anything, him not being a part of it meabs he’d be more than capable of spilling the beans if he was in.

How do you know that? Do you know the DLC?

What money?

castlevania has a netflix series and actually got new games this decade (unlike banjo).

>Ignores Game and Watch, Pit, Duck Hunt, Ice Climbers, Mega man, Dr. Mario.

I'll give you Falcon, but there are other's who were far more dead before they were included.

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obligatory post here about how mentally deficient Yea Forums is for falling for bait like this all the time

all of you extremist rosterfags suck, whether you want the boomer trio or steve and erdrick

Based lotoposter

He sold Minecraft in 2015 the dlc was finalized last year

The only reason people bought a ps1 is because it was hip and new muh CDs and Nintendo was still making based asf cartridges. The only things worth playing on ps1 in the end was spyro, crash, silent hill 1 and 40 winks. But if 40 winks had come out on n64 that's where people would have probably played it.

Luckily kick starter people made the n64 game a reality, so now I am playing on n64 and I get superior coop split screen.

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It is a bit weird that Phil and Rare have been radio silent this whole time? I mean, just a year ago, he made no secret either when prodded or even just coming up in casual interviews that he wanted Banjo, which would make sense since Banjo wasn't in Smash 4, he could freely talk about his desire. Now with Ultimate, he hasn't made a peep even though I'm sure some autist has to have asked him by now. Meanwhile, other IPs like Mojang and 343 Studios are more then happy to talk about Smash when asked.

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anyone who uses "relevancyfag" as an argument is a deluded rosterfag in denial who thinks their personal nostalgia overrides what's best for business.

>a netflix series
And where are the games?

>new games this decade
Like Rare Replay?

>imagine actually beleving this
he didnt do shit he didnt establish anything u retard
obviously no one really cares about him
dead character
and guess what no one likes collection games

My theory here is that it is similar to the Castlevania situation where many people vote for various characters from the SMT series and they settled on Joker.

Mega Man had Mega Man 10 and Dr. Mario had Dr. Mario 64

The rest you mentioned are the retro/surprise character that Sakurai offered outside of people’s typical expectations

no it wasn't. odyssey didn't even have a hub world

>102.5 million people bought the ps1
>lost all the money anyways
LOL

>it's either steve or banjo
How does it feel being so wrong, retards?

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>3rd party waluigi
lol

Then why not make Banjo as a retro pick? Series is 20 years old, should be fun. Plus the fan demand has been there for a long time.

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i don't get why people pull out this argument when sakurai has stated that geno would be a 'retro rep', and banjo's games only came out 2-3 years after his

they would be surprise retro reps. they're obviously not happening but you'd have to be a brainlet not to understand that. sakurai fucking loves those

>Banjies crusaded the Grinch leak and got completely ass blasted
>Banjokes said that they would get an N64 Mini with Banjo on it which was followed by a big fat NO from based Reggie
>Banjrones put all their force behind rumors saying that the Gamepass would be available on Switch and like most rumors, they went poof
>Banjroids raved about Save corruptions for Ultimate that couldn't be replicated by Nintendo, characters being used as bases for new ones doesn't make sense as the reason since the original data don't need to be tampered with, only copied
>That "microsoft employee" that Banjohnononos were saying confirmed Banjo ended up just being a guy with some old rumors as said by PapaGeno
You cannot respawn in hardcore mode!

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I can't fucking wait for Banjo you guys

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One thing people overlook: Lords of Shadow 2 came out in early 2014. That was only two years before Sakurai locked down the roster for Ultimate in early 2016.

Nobody knows who he is, DLC is for marketing Japanese games only

no, i mean actual new games, not a collection of old roms from the internet being sold as "new games."

Link's Awakening

>anyone who uses "relevancyfag" as an argument is a deluded rosterfag in denial who thinks their personal nostalgia overrides what's best for business.
>caring more about which characters sell the best rather than the ones you actually like
Relevancyfags, everybody.

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>comparing a character from a movie series with over 30 years of films at that point and not expecting him to be more popular than a brand new video game character who had only one appearance
No shit buddy, also James Bond isn't a Rare character, even though 007 is a Rare game

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>nobody
That's quite a gross exxageration, why is he currently one of the highest-requested characters if he's completely forgotten?

ANONYMOUS
IMAGEBOARD
The same people that want banjo most likely aren’t the same people that shit on the other two. Use your goddamn brain for once, you retarded asshole.

it's called being realistic. smash isn't a charity, it's a commercial product, and sakurai is trying to sell fighter passes to the widest possible audience. he's not going to pick obscure characters that only rosterfags care about.

Good thing it’s not roster fags, but the majority of the Smash fanbase, both East and West.

>high requested
maybe by autistic circles of man children doing circlejerks
besides that no one actullay wants this retarded thing its just some dumb meme at this point and needs to die off

>Both Banjo and Isaac basically share the #1 spot in fan polls
>Hurrr let's have their fans fight each other
Okay which autistic fanbase is responsible for all this falseflagging? Is it some character that can't even make the top 10 of any polls?

SMASHBOARD
And you need to go back to them

>The majority of the smash fanbase wanted joker
Heres where your argument falls apart

oh heck yea fan polls banjo and isaac are surely the most characters of all based off those right guys

I say again,
>giving a flying fuck about business instead of the characters you like
Literally THE MOST pathetic shit you can do. Relevancyfags are disgusting.

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Are you blind or were you asleep during the refusteve invasion?

They are more believable than Bayonetta winning.

True, though I was talking about today, not how Simon got in.
Also fuck what the show did to Hector and Isaac anyways, I wanted to look forward to it.

It's a new product being sold regardless.

2b in smash would be great for music alone.

Welp time to remove K.Rool and Ridley then.

And yet Geno was the one to get a special spotlight for his own mii costume in the last direct for Sm4sh because he actually had fan support behind him unlike Banjo who can't even get a participation sticker

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why do you need validation from smash to care about the characters you like?

Because everybody knows Nintendo is going to prioritize Waifu Emblem and Pokemon if 1st-parties are part of it.

I mean

Banjo is owned by Microsoft, and they and Nintendo weren't as close back then as they are today. Of course Banjo wasn't gonna fucking be in Smash 4.

You don't you stupid faggot, but instead of going into threads talking about "MUH SALES, YOUR CHARACTER WILL NEVER GET IN BECUZ MUH SALES MUH RELEVANCY" you should just be supporting the characters you like.

The only DLC that was advertising anything last time was Corrin, and no one will defend that. Cloud sure wasn't a cross promotion.

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real genofag here, how about you don't falseflag faggot

genobros support banjobros, the fuck are you talking about

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Fact most rosterfags seethe at the sight of seeing people wanting Banjo, Isaac or any other top requested characters instead of what they want. They would rather have garbage like Louie, garbage Mario rpg spin off character, Chorus Fags. Why do you think they make threads like these?

people only bring up sales and relevance in response to obnoxious rosterfags who act like their unlikely characters of choice are a lock, revise history to pretend that they're on the same level as actually relevant/popular characters on the roster, etc.

If I recall most Banjo fans also supported Geno and Issac.
So what the hell are you on about?

user, advertising is put into everything. SFV and FFVII-R were still big news around that time, and Bayonetta being half-Nintendo now was most-certainly being given more exposure on purpose, legit voting or not.

rosterfags are the ones begging for shit like banjo and isaac while seething at every character that actually gets into the game.

See

I want Sora, but you know what? I don't care if Sora doesn't get into Smash Bros. It's just a fucking videogame and not only that this is not the final Smash Bros in the history of gaming. This is no one's last chance. Smash will end when it stops selling so basically the chances of getting certain characters will always be there. It's all a matter of patience and time really. Though I hope I haven't offended anyone who is depressed/suicidal.

So? Even back in the Wii U days Nintendo was clear about not really competing against Sony and Microsoft and Geno is as dead and neglected of a third party as Banjo is and yet he got a moment of silence from Sakurai who even talked about his popularity multiple times in interviews. The only time Banjo was ever recognized was in a fucking melee poll who knows how long ago
This thread says otherwise

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Nice projection, I love everything we've gotten aside from maybe the excessive Marth Emblem and maybe PP.

Keep telling yourself that. It won't make them any less popular.

>implying Smashfags are a hivemind
Both Geno and Banjo are fucking irrelevant and have zero chance of getting into Smash. Genofags and Banjofags are fucking delusional. Stevefags are just blatantly shitposting.

they aren't popular outside of niche rosterfag circles.

based autistic /tpg/ poster

Replace Erdick with Sephiroth from Final Fantasy VII. Dragon Quest isn't that popular compared to Final Fantasy.

Jill I can actually see happening, but Leon I think has a better chance.

Yakuza and Nier haven't been on a Nintendo console before, so they're out.

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>third party IP
>getting more than one non-echo character

NOPE

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Simon Belmont probably would have gotten into the game if lord of shadow 2 wasn't a thing

Yakuza 1 and 2 is on Wii u for Japan only

Probably this, Megaman was fucking dead when he got in too.

Mega Man 10 came out in early 2010

Again, that was only two years before Sakurai locked down Smash 4's roster in early 2012.

Retard

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Kiryu was in Project X-Zone 2 alongside Chrom and Lucina

Simon and Mega Man got in because they're from iconic series on the NES/SNES. There's no ulterior motive beyond that.

>2012
This I admit I keep forgetting. The drought got to me.

I agree with you, some people are quick to think that Mega Man and Simon Belmont got in because they were relevant at the time instead of the fact that they are iconic and highly requested

Banjo isn't iconic

hes sure as hell highly requested, though.

Reminds me, did anyone ever figure out why Loot-crate deleted their post about Banjo in Smash and take Banjo out of the lootcrate. That was pretty fishy.

nope

Don't know, but it's too quick to judge it as a confirmation of banjo being in smash

>I think the problem there is that pretty much the only first party characters that have a chance are new Pokemon and Fire Emblem reps
completely untrue

Okay, so what other first party characters do you think has a chance, then?

Shitl ike Astral Chain is literally too new. If something like ARMS could only get an AT this time around, why would Sakurai include a character from a completely unproven IP? It's a much safer bet to rely on newer characters from established series like Fire Emblem or Pokemon. I imagine that's one of the big reasons Corrin got in over Inkling as the new, post-Smash 4 Nintendo character for that game's DLC lineup.

And then you have characters like Dixie or Bandana Dee that people like to whine about that apparantly weren't even good enough to get assist trophies in the base game.

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I believe in bear and bird

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ur a retard
rool yes ridley no
metroid actually still gets games and he apperas in like all of them and he was perfectly fine addition
rool is just some stupid gator that showed up in like 3 games he never should have been added

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Sometimes, i feels happy when someone use my shit draw on paint.

Imagine believing that the primary reason the Plant got in over anybody else in that picture was by recognition alone. Imagine being THAT illiterate.

They are pretty backwards

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She's in, as a spirit, no arguments here.

So why did Plant get in over those characters?

Shut up retard, fuck you

Shhhh, you'll trigger the stevefags

I never shat on Genobros or Isaachads, I supported them all as I've supported my own requests, Banjo being only one of. Shitposting is pretty rude user.

I even like Incineroar as well. And let's be fair, he does have much more furfag-appeals and lewds out there.

Most of the people shitting on Isaac came from Discord and resetera, though.
Mods confirmed it and everything.
I don't care about the seres myself, but it's sad that Yea Forums let the liberals win.

look i got nothing against incineroar but this image is dumb

incineroar is a much more humanoid looking bara cat thing. banjo on the other hand is just some goofy looking cartoon bear. he's about as "furbait" as bugs bunny or goofy are, which is "not at all"

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>still gets games
Yeah, after being fucking dead for a decade. And Rool was consistently the highest-scoring request across sites for years.

Banjo is a humanoid animal too, and have you seen his concept art?

Well to be fair, Metroid was only gone for five years.

Federation Force (yeah I know) and Samus Returns were in development by 2015

gameinformer.com/interview/2018/11/21/masahiro-sakurai-talks-piranha-plant-spirits-and-20-years-of-super-smash-bros

>In the past titles in the series, Mr. Game & Watch, R.O.B. and Duck Hunt Dog were some of the examples we offered outside of people’s typical expectations. However, if we don’t have these types of fighters, and we only had typical “hero/heroine” type fighters in the lineup, there’s not much difference. It’s probably not very interesting. Correct?
Piranha Plant was mainly chosen because it was not a "hero/heroine" type character. So, unless your most wanted was a literal obstacle like the Plant, Piranha Plant didn't take anybody's slot.

Banjo looks like a guy with a bear mask on

>Host: I see. But we did get a lot of questions like, “Why wasn’t Krystal a playable character?”

>Sakurai: It’s not that I don’t understand how that feels, but if you start saying that, it becomes “Why isn’t Waddle Dee playable?” or Dry Bones, or Baby Peach. There’d be no end to it.

Make up your mind

ARMs and Xenoblade didn't get characters because they came out too late, there's nothing stopping them from being DLC. On top of that, you have stuff like Zelda which hasn't had a new character since brawl (melee arguably) and a bunch of oddball choices like warioware or sylux to shill prime 4. End it with the FE/pokemon autism

>there's nothing stopping them from being DLC

How about the fact that ARMS' main fucking character and mascot is already an assist trophy?

And Rex was turned into a Mii Fighter costume because they knew he wasn't going to be DLC.

>and a bunch of oddball choices like warioware or sylux

You know they actually want this shit to sell, right?

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To this day it still baffles me that people expected a Switch character to be in Smash, didn't they learn from previous games?

> Olimar didn't get in Melee
> WFT and Rosalina didn't get in Brawl
> Inkling didn't get in Smash 4
Characters that originated from that console have a harder time to be playable in the Smash game released in the same console due to being too recent, they are the perfect picks for the sequels.

>Characters that originated from that console have a harder time to be playable in the Smash game released in the same console due to being too recent, they are the perfect picks for the sequels.
Literally Corrin and Bayonetta.

>You know they actually want this shit to sell, right?
joker got in over many, MANY other more popular characters and corrin was DLC before his game came out as well. Smash shit will sell regardless

1. That's a quote from an SSBB interview, retard. sourcegaming.info/2015/08/17/sakuraibrawlquestions/

2. How is that relevant?

you're an idiot, cloud/ryu were the only popular DLC character for 4 who are alone WAY more popular than Joker, and Corrin got in before fe fates was released. Sylux has at least existed for the last 13 years and continues to be present in prime games

I'd argue Joker works it at least has attracts a new audience to Smash Bros., those being Persona fans. Can't say the same for Bandana Dee or Sylux

I'd argue you're a goalpost moving retard

I'm sad that this is more likely.

You listen too much to the shitposting and falseflagging on here. There's always been contrarians shitting on all three but the sudden influx of shitposting surrounding them is mostly falseflagging with a little genuine salt from actual fans if I had to guess. Banjo's an easy target because he's a fan favorite that didn't get spirited or AT'd away and the whole thing with Steveposting. Geno falseflags have simmered down lately, but Isaac falseflags have started popping up a lot. Not saying legitimate fans can't go full retard, but when some autist says he's running a Discord to make Golden Sun discussion impossible on Yea Forums, and then you see some dumbass saying Golden Sun is more popular than Persona, it's not hard to put two and two together.

t. K.Roolchad and grinchfag that wants all 3 in

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I already feel disappointed for you over posting art clearly made by a furry.

Sakurai would probably be assassinated if we got another FE character

Megamanfag here. He's right. The whole franchise was dead as fuck, especially after Legends got cancelled. Be glad Smash Brothers saved it, like it saved a handful of other franchises.

Again, Retard

Your getting a Draglia Lost rep and your going to like it

Prove me wrong.

I'm so tired of all you dumb faggots that always bring up K Rool or Ridley, the only reason those characters are in is BECAUSE THEY WON THE SMASH BALLOT. NOT FUCKING BANJO AND NOT FUCKING GENO. YOU STUPID FUCKS ALREADY GOT YOUR CHARACTERS. NINTENDO ISN'T GOING TO USE ANY MORE SLOTS ON YOUR SHITTY MEME PICKS WHEN THEY CAN'T MARKET THEM.

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>Mario 64 singlehandedly creates a new genre
>dicksuckers at Rare try to copy Mario 64, make an all around worse game that sold less
>years later, Mario 64 successor comes out
>explicitly called a part of the 3D Mario series, that began with Mario 64
>t-this shitty copy influenced the Mario 64 successor t-trust me
Die in a fire.

Bayonetta came out in 2009 and everyone knows that Corrin was a shill pick

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dabbeth.

so then why is it acceptable for corrin but not sylux?

>The literal main character vs a side character
retard

*main villain

That is always going to be Ridley.

LOL nice job outing yourself, Ridley has never been the main villain. He's also not in prime 4

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not that user you were arguing with but it wasn't ok for Corrin, most people loathe Corrin to this day because of their inclusion as just advertisement (even though they are more unique of a character than half of the FE cast). I don't know what the chances are for Sylux, though I'm sure if they ever release that rumored Metroid Prime Trilogy collcection then he has a good shot

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>Never been the main villain
Fake fan
Also believing in any of that shit when the entire game was just scrapped and rebooted.
Last (you) you'll get from me.
Retard.

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I think a lot of the talk about Banjo right now comes from how Microsoft has sort kinda become more of a third party developer to Nintendo. From 2015 and until last year, all they had on other consoles was just Minecraft, but now they seem to be putting their other games like Cuphead, Ori (heavily rumored) and possibly even Halo, according to king zell.

So naturally that gives people some hope that maybe Nintendo and Microsoft have additionally talked behind the scenes about putting a character of theirs in Smash, and some would argue that maybe Nintendo/Sakurai would go with Banjo with it now being possible and after (presumably) scoring high on the ballot.

Maybe Banjo could be used to market Rare Replay if that comes to Switch

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dumb FEtard BTFO

Do people legitimately think Doomguy doesn't have a chance?

>25 year anniversary
>no representation of the FPS genre, Snake represents the stealth genre
>lots of history between DOOM and Nintendo
>Quake Con is mostly going to be DOOM focused. They also state that they have tons of exciting news they can't reveal
>Doom eternal coming out meaning its perfect time for promotion
>Doom sold very well on the switch
>Nu Doom introduced tons of potential moves for Doomguy that doesn't include guns

only thing against him is that he's a western third party

>confusing true Banjbros with falseflagging Stevefags
The only true enemy of a Banjbro is Steve, we’re happy to see anyone else in this game.

>Metroid get one new character and one echo in Ultimate
>now has more characters than Kirby
>series sells like garbage compared to Kirby
>Metroidtards asking for MORE
>asking for some secondary antagonist when Phazon rep and Ridley are already in
>another shitty missile-shooting campy space pirate
>when there are still no eldritch Kirby boss reps like Dark Matter or Marx
Hopefully Sakurai listens to the Japanese audience again, we don't need more "Captain America"s like Ridley.

I think it's more really the fact that DOOM is generally unpopular as fuck and obscure in Japan. Same thing with Mortal Kombat, Tomb Raider, Rayman, etc

over-representing a good series will make up for over-presetting fire emblem trash in 4

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Reminder that Kid Icarus of all things had more reps than Donkey Kong and Metroid during 4

echoes don't count

>whole appeal of DOOM is to shoot and dismember demons and enemies in violent and brutal ways
>not a thing against him
Same thing with people wanting Scorpion or Sub-Zero, Nintendo is not gonna let them rip out Mario's spine

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strawman : the image

mature shit isn't an argument against smash anymore

woah...random merchandise

They weren't echoes back then retard-kun, he just called them echoes so you wouldn't complain about it

But i don't want any of those 3

semantics

>Hopefully Sakurai listens to the Japanese audience again
So you want the rest of the fighter pass to be Fire Emblem characters?

Furshit doesn't belong in Smash at all, Banjo is part of that shit. Thankfully Incelroar will get removed in the next game and Banjo will never make it in.

Doom is irrelevant literal who garbage

Fox has been in since the first game though

So why is Fox is here then? He'll never be removed

>So, unless your most wanted was a literal obstacle like the Plant, Piranha Plant didn't take anybody's slot
One of my most wanted characters was unironically Chain Chomp. Fuck the plant.

the plant got in only because it was a bonus, you mongoloid

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She’s not even the main character why would it be her?

Speaking of which, how would Jill/Leon play? Would the MvC2 moveset be used for reference? I'd like too see one make it in at least.

>incineroar is for the boomers
like you think that incineroar was just as demanded as k rool or ridley?

Fox is cancer. Not only furshit but a completely made up moveset """loosely based on""" his spaceship's attacks. It is really unfortunate that he won't be removed. Star Fox characters are the worst.

thats bait user

oh yeah, she's definetly gonna be in the game
as a jpeg, FEtard

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Bottom one was meant for

Actual retard. We’ve gone full 180 with these reddit memes

how about this

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Insiders say she's in

Oh right
Which ones user

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>3 more characters with swords

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I rather have Steve, hell, I rather have fucking SANS than another fucking fire emblem.

Not him and I know this is anecdotal evidence, but one of my friends who plays Smash is a 30-something y.o. dad and he mains Incineroar because he likes wrestling. He also doesn't give a shit about Banjo or Geno and wants Doomguy.

DLC ruined Smash discussion.

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The guy who leaked Joker

no
how about

That’s awesome that this guy has a connection with a character and that he wants Doomguy. Not every 35 YO is going to give a shit about a random one time mario character user

No one leaked joker.
Are you going to link some proof to get me to shut up or are you just going to keep saying a bunch of shit?

No?

no the autistic fanbase ruined smash discussion

Lmao no one cares about Geno or Isaac, literally everyone besides Zoomies and contrarians want Banjo.

nobody in the world leaked joker. kill yourself, insiders don't matter to the DLC of this game.

Makes sense that actual boomers want manly shit, fighting and guns while manchildren (zoomers but old) want their kiddy shit that they have nostalgia for.

>dee
>relevant
Nobody even fucking talks about him anymore. Dee is beyond irrelevant.

boards.fireden.net/v/thread/440346534/#q440346534

Look at the date, this was 2 weeks before Joker was announced

Geno
>one game
>spinoff
>standalone
>not even the main character
>Super NES
>owned by Square, who are such dicks they barely allowed Cloud in the game
If you think Geno is comparable to Banjo at all, you're fucking retarded.

>Dixie and Dee are the last 2 Nintendo characters who should get in smash desu
I am SOOOOOO ad you will NEVER make a smash game.

>user 1 lays out 2 cherries
>user 2 picks one
>CHERRYPICKING LOL

Boring as hell

user, hundreds of supposed "leaks" get posted to Yea Forums every week with all sorts of variants and different choices of characters depending on their tastes. One them is bound to get at least something right eventually. That user never followed up about the "uncompleted models" (note plural, not just Joker) because it was just another random shot in the dark that actually managed to hit something.

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> N-NO HE JUST MADE A LUCKY GUESS!
Fuck off, we're getting Edelgard-kun.

I'd assume they'd have to dodge the real-world guns like Snake, otherwise I can imagine stuff like the knifves/stunrods, various GL rounds, flamethrowers, spark shots, rocket launchers and even linear launchers being used. Beyond that is anybody's guess, really.

Also I'd prefer the Chris/Leon setup, since both are probably the 2 most popular and game-used RE characters.

best girl will never be in smash.

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>Sylux
Its one of those leaks that jumped on the sylux not a spirit bandwagon and he would be metroid prime 4 shill when they just scrapped the entire game earlier this year. You're a retard if you believe this.

fpbp, fuck the puppetfags

Better ask why Porkyfags think their character is relevant when he was last seen in a Japan-only 2006 game, too.

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Naw

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>List companies "And source claims it's X"
>Joker isn't first, or hard committed, despite clearly being ready to announce.
Good bit of doubt, namely because of the structure of the claims.
The decision process isn't "We want someone from x company, who's a good choice."
It's "We want Y character, get in touch with X company."

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porkyfags are some of the biggest retards in terms of smash rosterfaggotry, and that's saying something. Not only is mother irrelevant (it was never popular, really), it already has way, WAY more shit in smash than it deserves

He’s not relevant in the same vain as fuckin Zelda or Mario but he’s a pretty big character in his own series. This is literally the argument that motherfags have been using so I don’t know where you came up with what ever shit you’re trying to sell user

>in his series
a series that hasn't even broken 2 million when you combine all the games. who gives a shit

Because other random nobodies get spirits but the main antagonist if the series doesn’t get jack shit. That’s the only reason why the character gets any attention brainlet

>absolutely safe capsule

Riddle me this banjofags, is your character even wanted by Sakurai? I mean shit, at least we got a mention in the game. Poor Banjo won't get a single thing. Now stay down you faggot ass bandwaggoners.

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>2 smash 4 trophies

Hey retard, ever wondered why the absolutely safe capsule is a legendary spirit? It's a meta joke.

The Bethesda rep is Dragonborn

Based

youtube.com/watch?v=_oVwrpfo_QA
>14million

he was gonna get in during melee, dumbass.

Yeah that’s a possibility but characters can have multiple spirits retard. I’m waiting for him to get deconfirmed when there’s an earthbound spirit event.

Sure he was :^)

see
Remember not to fall for the falseflagger lies.

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they all come from the same discord

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InSekiro

>Nintendo lifted the Motion-Sensor Bomb from Goldeneye and Perfect Dark for Melee
>Cloaking Device item for melee was from Perfect Dark
>Their Japanese trophy descriptions confirm this.
I could see that, Banjo would have been the designated "Rare" rep and those would have been the items to accompany him.

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> Banjo in Smash before characters like Dedede, Diddy Kong and Wario
Fuck off

dumbass

>main character from (then) nintendo game getting in before secondaries

You ok, user?

Two fire emblem characters got in before them, plus Banjo kazooie was still relevant around that time

Banjo is a literal who compared to those characters, even back then.

you're autistic

Even if you were right, so were Pikmin and especially FEmblem. You're trying too hard, buddy.

God you banjofags disgust me.
So not only did you abandon us after the grinch fiasco, but now you're arrogantly shitposting against us after we lost? You are all pieces of swine.

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Unless the 5ch leak is real, I'm gonna have to agree with this. Doom's one of my favorites and it'd redeem that otherwise lame leak, but realistically Skyrim is the game Bethesda can't stop reminding the world about and even Japan loved it.

I genuinely hate puppetfags, they've been shitting all over Yea Forums, the Smashboards and the Smash subreddit since Ultimate was announced and have done the same thing for the last two Smash games.
There isn't a more delusional, persistent group of rosterfags around.

Roy

>Tfw read smash threads despite not owning a switch and not being interested in fighting games

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>Going to reddit
Leave

Time for you to return home

Kill yourself retarded Banjies, your shit bear didn't even get the most votes in terms of a character from Rare, Bond had more votes than Banjo.

He didn't have a chance back then, and he sure as hell doesn't have a chance now.

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Olimar was added in Brawl stupid

Here's your DLC bro.
>Erdrick
next direct.
>Crash
E3
>Banjo
Fall
>Master Chief
Winter/Game Awards
Banjo is dead and irrelevant, but I don't care who gets in. I just want Crash in.

cope, he literally was in, but llegal issues got in his way. keep crying you cum guzzling faggot.

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Sakurai just said they weren't in because of legal reasons, why are you acting like he was a shoo-in?

stop pretending you haven't used the site.

>A poll limited to Japan and with an obviously low pool of voters since Bowser only has about 169.
>Anyone realizable (easy moveset potential so no Saturn, Sukapon or Gooey) and within the top score got included with the exception of Dedede which I assume was because Sakurai didn't want to show bias and Wario who Sakurai stated was because Peach and Bowser already took two slots up.
>Banjo has more than twice as many votes as Falco/Young Link, tied with the Red/Fire Emblem.
>Bond is a licensed character who uses guns not owned by Rare/Nintendo but Sakurai makes sure he's acknowledged by including the proximity mine, Banjo would have been the next realizable choice for a representative for Rare at the time, Sakurai even states that his inclusion seemed obvious which is why he has to explain about copyright (the buyout).
If anything, this image just makes it seem even more likely that he was going to get in but got stuffed due to the buyout.

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Whelp that explains where all the banjofags are coming from folks

Stop with this "irrelevant argument" A GOOD CHUNK of this cast is fucking irrelevant -

Palutena, Dark Pit, Pit, Captain Falcon, ROB, MR G&W, JOKER, PP.

This is dogshit

You sure got me, clearly this poll alone was enough for banjo not to get in and not the fact that the rare buyout was going or it was limited to a small amount of people in Japan. I bet Banjo still won't be in even if Nintendo owns him

Banjo isn't in because he's owned by a western company. ANd geno will be DLC. Sakurai wants him in.

You have very poor taste.

Nope. They just deleted in and gave no reason why. So either they used the B&K without permission or LC used the B&K ultimate redesign in their crate, but Joker(the fucking terrible character choice) is taking too long so B&K had to be delayed in turn causing LC to remove it from their box for a while.

what is this?

NOBODY wanted incenroar. That's the difference.

FPBP
Fucking based.

OMG merchandise for a game. Nobody would have seen this coming@!

There will NEVER EVER be a character from an incredibly violent video game in smash. It'll never happen. Do you not know Nintendo>?

thats a bait image, that nigger posts it in every smash thrad

I disagree about Banjo but 100% full on agree about Star Fox, Fox/Wolf players are fucking disgusting

Yes it is? Especially when the character in question is built around VIOLENCE. Tell me, without the violence what is Doomguy and scorpion? I'll tell you, they are NOTHING>

>Hopefully Sakurai listens to the Japanese audience again,

This is all that he's been doing? are you fucking stupid? Have you been huffing paint?

>Smash
No waluigi no buy.

fox was cool in 64/Melee, every smash game since then has him looking even more like furbait

bayonetta is the same shit except sexual instead of violence

lol you're an ignorant fuck. Us Banjo fagss never nor will EVER abandon Geno Fags. You are our brothers.

> Easy moveset potential so no Sukapon
He already had a moveset to work from, he's from a fucking fighting game

Even if they used Banjo Kazooie without permission for the LC, there isn't really a reason why they would delete an innocuous tweet about wanting Banjo in Smash, Halo did it for Chief and they haven't deleted theirs yet. This whole thing stinks of an NDA but who knows, guess we'll find out eventually.

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Smash is gay as fuck now. You fags are no better than people who still play WoW. Move on with your lives

Man, I just want Banjo because Banjo-Tooie was the first ever game I played as a Kid and Banjo's games low key got me into Video games.

BandWagon fags can fuck off and die, I just want the one character that showed me video games can be fun, exciting and even mysterious.

>competitive melee
> ot completely out of it

>there isn't really a reason why they would delete an innocuous tweet about wanting Banjo in Smash

This is all weird, but there is a reason for it.

>Crash had a vote more than Sonic and Mega Man.
He's in.