SAKURAI: JOKER IS COMING TO SMASH BROS. ULTIMATE “VERY SOON”

Betting that 3.0 drops after a direct on the 17th or 18th.

Is this what he walked into?

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The Fighters Pass was running for all of 2019, right? So
>5 characters throughout the year
>1 character ever 2.4 months if they're spaced out exactly
>first character shown 4 months in
Either we're going into 2020 or (haha) fighter reveals will speed up to about 1 every 2 months.

>jap dev saying soon
Yeah nah, ain't gonna believe that shit
And fuck you Seismic you lazy motherfucker btw

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>VERY SOON

It's going to be directly after the Persona concert on the 24th.

>soon
Watch as we get him on the last day of the month or something stupid.

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Personally I think that Joker's reveal was pushed forward for the VGAs and he would otherwise have been revealed in February. So the original schedule would have been something like
>Fighter 1 revealed in February, released in April
>Fighter 2 revealed in April, released in June
>Fighter 3 revealed in June, released in August
>Fighter 4 revealed in August, released in October
>Fighter 5 revealed in October, released in December
Give or take a few delays or similar reveal changes for specific occasions (like what may have happened with Joker) and they would have every fighter in the pack released by February 2020, as promised.

They should all be released by February 2020.

Hopefully next week

Nah, that would never have been the case purely because they'll be showing 2 fighters at once at E3 for sure

Reminds me.

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The last one will be Feb 28th 2020. Lets not pretend

>Final Character released in December

They're going to use every single second of that February 2020 date. I expect the last fighter to be released near the end of February with a 2nd season pass announced directly after release.

Who else is going to main Joker?

He's gonna come out on the 25th because of the whole Persona 5R event on that day so we will have to wait 3 more weeks

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I think you're right for the first part. Probably spread out the release dates a little bit more. They'd probably release fighter 4 for Christmas and have that be a very popular character to bring in sales.

I'll believe it when i see an ingame picture.

Why is he so cute?

Gotta wait for that P5R reveal desu

well shit they have 5 characters in a season pass, and we are already 4 months into 2019. He should have been released alraedy, and we should be waiting for the next one.

Nothing is forcing them to show off the alternate skins

I'll show you who's boss of this Battlefield.

>he doesn't know

What happened to his clothes?

Joker will have been out for a month and we will still somehow have zero gameplay of him.

Probably revealing any skins could be a leak of any sort. P5R and P5S reveal are knocking the door and Atlus would not want Nintendo present the surprises before them aka female Joker

The nice part is that fucking with Nintendo's release schedule like this probably put them on their shitlist, so they won't get a chance like this again.

>japanesenintendo
>mynintendonews
>nintendosoup

Would be nice some kind of gameplay :(

They showed gameplay in the same direct we heard about the 3.0 update though. Stop being greedy.

>drops into crouch than standing
>gameplay

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>reddit spacing
>absolutely retarded
who's surprised

>That feeling when you know spring break is coming and you'll stop work
>Joker appears in Smash
>Endgame gets released
>Sonic trailer might eventually be released and even if it's shit it's gonna be hype as fuck
MY DICK CAN'T HANDLE THIS SEND HELP, MAYBE A NURSE WITH BIG BOOBS

AAAAAAAAAAAAA YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Me, if he has a cool looking moveset that feels unique and isn't as gimmicky as Robin's.

>Endgame
faggot

Best movie this year

>excited for more Marvel shit
>sonic trailer is "gonna be hype as fuck"
>YASSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Please stop.

I mostly agree with this, only thing I think different is that we won't get any reveal until E3 where they'll drop the character day off.

Fuck Joker, wheres the second character announcement?

Gonna be announced with Joker :^)

Joker was revealed too early. Smash 4 DLC (besides Mewtwo) was revealed a month or two before release with gameplay shown. Also, Sakurai is obviously working on multiple characters at once, so the others won't take as long as Joker.

holy
fuck
kill yourself

Last time he said this, it took 24 days for it to actually release (and even longer for people who didn't have club nintendo)
Make of that what you will

Literally nothing new: the post.

I'll believe it when I see it. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it ended up happening at the end of the month anyway

24 days is very soon.

Didn't 2.0 drop with like, no warning?

No?

>another month
>very soon
lol

>Less than a month
>Not very soon
retard

>This entire post
Is there a term called Springbreakfag?

Why the fuck is he wearing scarves on top of his trenchcoat? Not even wrapped around his neck

What we know so far

>There's a Jane file in the datamine
>Joker will come out before the end of April
>Atlus has said we'll get more Persona 5 The Royal news on the 24th
>Now Atlus has opened the site for Persona 5 S with news coming up on April 25th
>Best Buy got the Smash render for Joker already and a confirmation for Persona 5 on the Switch
>Brave had working stats and height parameters from the datamine along with Joker
>Going by the parameters, he's about the size as Ness
>Joker and Brave at least have been in some form of development (not in a presentable form mind you) at least since Ultimate launch
>Piranha Plant was leaked because of a disgruntled tester at NoA, the plant was leaked months before the reveal and the leaker even mentioned it didn't look right yet (animations being the biggest factor)

What we can speculate

>Jane could possibly mean a female alt or some crap
>Atlus might want to showcase said female alt before Smash
>However, the fact that Best Buy has the render already might indicate a gameplay showcase sooner
>Joker might've not have been leaked because he wasn't available to testers yet (assuming all reliable Roster leakers are pissed off testers)
>Brave could release soon after Joker, hopefully on the same day if we're lucky

What we know from the 5ch leaks

>The second leak (that came before the first by a few days) claimed Persona 5 The Royal would come out within the first half of 2019
>It also claimed Steve was cut from the base roster
>It also said Ryu Hayabusa is in to promote a game or port for Ninja Gaiden's 30th anniversary (which was last year)
>Neither mentioned Joker having a female alt

Not gonna take any sides on the 5ch stuff
You interpret that on your own
If there are any details wrong or if I'm leaving stuff out please let me know
As for Joker, its either soon or late so basically speculating when he's gonna release is utterly pointless

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It did.

The last time Sakurai said this was with Mewtwo. He came 24 days later.

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There’s almost certainly female protagonist on the way. Not that I’m
One to believe leaks at all, but someone claiming to have found bones for a ponytail in the data, then the new character having a ponytail is pretty good evidence. They’re definitely scheduling with Atlus so they can announce P5R and 5S completely before the joker in Smash showcase and release

The "Jane" thing was already proven to be most likely nothing as it was on his 6th alt, which would mean if Joker/FemJoker worked like how Robin/Villager/etc. work, "Jane" would be a Male Joker alt.

Good lord I can smell the autism

What if...

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You don't live in a wintery area, do you? You use a scarf to keep your face and neck safe from icy wind. You go indoors from wearing that and don't need it on anymore. What do you do with it? It's too big for a pocket but you don't want to keep covering your face.

They're not going to show off and release Joker at a concert that's gonna be at like 4 in the morning for western viewers, you fucking idiots.

It could work like Olimar/Alph where male Joker has the first four alts and Jane has the last four alts. Retard.

Is the Persona series worth getting into if you aren't into waifus and dating sim mechanics at all?

can't wait for rosterfags to seethe when the costume turns out to be the other joker from persona.

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Then why wasn't Jane found in alts 5, 7, and 8

Tell me when, you piece of shit

the waifu/dating element is extremely overrated and nowhere near as important to the games as people make it out to be, so yes, it is.

NERF WOLF
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Dating sim shit is hardly a part of the game anyways and is completely skippable.

Have people found those alts?

Its a VN + dungeon crawler if you dont like at least one of those genres a lot dont bother

I just want 3.0 to come already so shit like Wolfs blaster gets nerfed

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Thanks. I'm always late to the party with these sorts of games so that's almost all of the ever see people discuss about them

I just want to know who the next fucking character is.

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Who the FUCK that this was ok? I wouldn’t mind a slight arch in front of the kick but holy shit

So, if the community truly has a say in these things, what are some major nerfs and buffs that will for sure happen in 3.0?

I think Wolfs blaster will be nerfed to collide with swords, projectiles, and some tilts
Consecutively, I believe Snakes Nikita will for sure be nerfed to remove the reactivation, or at least make it take longer.

I expect buffs for Pirahna Plant and Lucas, as well as fixing the Z-axis on Donkey Kongs Donkey Punch.

Also Pichu is slightly larger

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literally the devs who said they don't want it to be a shitty esport game, its why so much shit is intentionally bad

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Wolf blaster is cancer and will probably get nerfed. It has zero interactions but with reflects and bucket.
The move literally scoops you up and murders you. It’s bullshit. A lot of hitboxes are bullshit in this game
I love Digimon but please stop

Thoughts on Fighter #3?

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:3

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Oops wrong pic my bad

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MISTEEEER KENNEDY

>imagining me bodying my friend with joker and saying "futababros win again" each time i win and him seething because he's a makotofag

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>makotofag
yikes! make sure to remind him that makoto will be forgotten as soon as her sister becomes a romance option in p5r.

He's in

Pic related would unironically be a fun dair.

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KEK

>He hasn’t seen the joker teaser

What would his Smashes be, just different spin attacks?

is this Woz

Late April
Translation: April 30th, 23:59 hrs

Yes cuz normies know about persona 2

No this is

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I like how lanky he is but he better have a good fucking moveset, I don't care who else gets in unless its a rosterfag pick which in that case I hope they don't because fuck you

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why would anyone, even rosterfags, be mad over a costume

he cute

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HE'S IN

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I would like Morgana as fren to user

There’s also Godzilla coming

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>Magic user
>Similar build
>Sword is similarly sized to Joker's dagger
>FemRobin's pigtails are similar to a ponytail
Is it possible that Joker is based on Robin and the hair is just left over from them?

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Ninty usually likes to do them just before or just after those sorts of things.

>wanna sprite cranberry

It's a leap year so make that the 29th

Did you guys not see the new trailer?
youtube.com/watch?v=t433PEQGErc

Yes cuz alt costumes are always references normies will get

Not a bad guess. But I think the dlc charecter are bold from scratch.

HOLY SHIT

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You're way too optimistic, it's going to get delayed to summer

what happened to Fighter 2?

Sakurai's work schedule is so hectic, the days blur together

i can just see your basedbeard and gaping mouth

>Joker was announced 4 months ago
>Still hasn't been released yet.
>Other DLC characters still TBA

This game is super slow with it's DLC content. Other fighting games release DLC's a month or two after the game's release.

Where is his darker skinned echo fighter

Not necessarily. Cloud was based on Ike, Bayonetta was based on ZSS, and Piranha Plant was based on Bowser Jr.

Was thinking of a Joker moveset

>a jab
Slashes with the knife
>side tilt
Fires the gun forwards.
>Up tilt
Above head kick
>Down tilt
ankle sweep
>Nair
Arsene pops and flaps his wings out to hit
>Uair
Arsene strikes upwards from Joker
>Fair
Forward stab lunge
>Dair
vertical Divekick, with Arsene following just after Joker for a second hit
>FSmash
Arsene does a heavy slash
>USmash
Arsene casts Eiha above Joker
>DSmash
Arsene slams both wings down
>B
Eiha- Casts a black orb in front of Joker stays in place as long as B is held. Moves slowly forwards once B is released
>Side B
Ambush- Joker pounces and tears the 'mask' off the enemy, then throws them behind him
>Down B
Sukunda- Arsene throws a small attack that gives a slowdown effect on an enemy
>Up B
Position Hack- Necronomicon appears at an aimable angle and teleports Joker to it. He can hold on and glide a little if he holds B
>Grab Pummel
Face slashes
>F Throw
Pistol blast to the face
>B Throw
Judo throw
>D Throw
Drop then shot to face
>U Throw
Throw up into Arsene Slash
>Final Smash
All Out Attack, obvs

following the Soul Calibur 6 model, a bold strategy

>alph

I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO REMATCH AND CHANGE CHARACTERS

FUCK YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOU

>Godzilla
it will be way better due to kaiju shit always being based but people who want to see this long as movie shit end will watch the movie. I’m going to see it and never ever spend money on anything marvel related ever again. The company is oozing with soi

There sis no female Joker. It's a side story with a new person and a new personality.

I believe that the next 4 will be fast as fuck

I'm starting to think it's less about Atlus delaying anything and more that Nintendo demanded Joker to be shown off way too early, before the base game even officially released. Sakurai claimed that Joker had NO game assets presentable when Nintendo asked, and that's why they had to commission an animation for the VGAs instead.

Considering they at least had Mewtwo's static model ready to show off for his Smash 4 reveal, I'm guessing Joker wasn't who Sakurai had in mind to reveal first.

I would easily take this over. 4's version of balance where everything feels weak, slow and 95% of the characters are too shitty to matter.

rosterfags are the type of people who take incomplete information and assumptions from "datamines" as gospel.
if the costume doesn't turn out to be a femc like they're insisting it is, they'll throw a huge meltdown over nothing.

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REVAMP GSP YOU FUCKING HACK

Why the fuck would this even happen?

Oh, I didnt know. It's really plausible then! But why would it be named "Jane" for the hair?

doubtful since costume 6 is a male Robin costume and we would have found references of pony hair in Robin's files

The fuck do you want from him? It's literally just MMR.

Ultimate often shares skeletons for fighters with alt costumes (so you'll get Wario's jacket and helmet strap swag bones even on his plumber costumes for example), with Mii Costume parts being an exception. Someone should check if FemRobin's ponytail bones still exist in ManRobin's models. I would myself but I'm at work.

Codename? Why is Joker presumably Jack?

>Why is Joker presumably Jack?
because of pic related hidden in the code
also Jack's stats would match how Joker would play in Smash Bros

I think people would have pointed out references of pony hair existing in the code by now, honestly.

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Lel

Also the name Jack could be a sly reference to Atlus' mascot, Jack Frost

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There's that too. By now, nobody should deny that Jack is Joker.

In certain gambling games like poker Jack is part of the royal card deck i.e 10, Jack, Queen, King and Ace. You can also use the Joker card to serve the same function as Jack in a poker game. So they're the same thing or the codename is another reference to a demon/persona called Jack Frost like what said.

Why doesn't Wolf's blaster clash with other projectiles?

Basically a codename, yeah.

'Jack' must refer to Jack Frost, the mascot of the SMT series, probably, much like classic pacman, he was Sakurai's original pick for the game, but since P5 is rolling the mad cash, atlus is probably strongarming him to put Joker instead.

I can bet Jack will be in at least 1 of Jokers attacks.

reddit pls go

>Your Spring Break hasn't happened yet
You must be 18+ to post on Yea Forums

Joker
Leon Kennedy
Banjo Kazooie & Steve (Steve had Master Chief skin, both announced in June, I’m assuming E3)
sans

Screencap this
or don’t I don’t give a fuck just wait and see lol

i have no idea man. I dont know what the fuck they were thinking with that. Its so fucking fast you cant stop him from doing it if hes not near you but you cant fucking stop him from shooting you because its fast. you literally have to wait for him to stop spamming it to approach but if you approach he bodies you. Wolfs blaster is nuts and has way to much control

I want to make Mona moan

They're just going to announce and release pack 2 on same day as Joker, and be back on track, with only 3 to reveal in release for the next 10 months

Exactly, tons of indsiders were expecting the Square Enix character to release first, which leads me to believe that they're simultaneously working on Joker with another character, that can be revealed the day Joker is shown off, and maybe even released

Either he's a very cold man or he really fucking loves scarfs because holy fucking shit. And over a trench coat INSIDE A BUILDING WITH PRESUMABLE AIR CONDITIONER.

>And over a trench coat INSIDE A BUILDING WITH PRESUMABLE AIR CONDITIONER.
It's Japan. They're ass backwards when it comes to things like a/c and heaters.

>Earlier this morning, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate was declared Famitsu’s 2018 Game of the Year in Japan.

lmfao what shitty taste. GOTY for a port with barley anything new? Fuck off Famitsu.

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I'm more curious why they've barely shown us anything about Joker.
What are they hiding?

famitsu makes the western media look good. they gave an "excellence award" to pokemon legpiss. i wish i was kidding.

>Going by the parameters, he's about the size as Ness

Isn't height subject to change? Then again, same can be applied to the rest of the stats and his/her overall weight being in the middle terms IIRC (lightest heavyweight/heaviest lightweight), prompt to float/slight delay of turning (?) and something like that. I heard it can't wall jump as well. Tested with Ike and stuff.

"very soon" is like 20 days for Sakurai.

Godammit

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I can tell I’d hate him if I knew him personally. Anybody who claims to be busy is almost certainly never busy.

Do you have a link to that reddit post of the tester leaking Piranha Plant? I thought that was hilarious

Fuck, I hope so

Sakurai so lazy
Nigga SLEPT in the OFFICE

I actually read somewhere that Sakurai writes for Famitsu, but I could be wrong.

>pocketgamer.com/articles/064472/sakurai-mewtwo-will-be-coming-to-super-smash-bros-pretty-soon/
>March 23rd
>"Mewtwo will be coming pretty soon"
>Mewtwo doesn't release until April 28th, over a month later

If that's Sakurai's concept of soon, we're gonna be waiting til' the end of the month for Joker

>Jack fighting alongside Joker

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Well, they did say April.

Mewtwo was released like in the middle of April.

Potted Plant was the first step, now it's time for the TRUE out of nowhere choice

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Sakurai will add Mass Destruction right??

youtube.com/watch?v=g3jCAyPai2Y

>Persona 5 x Smash Bros. Ultimate
>Mass Destruction
retard

My bat senses should have tingled

>Expecting Joker to come with things that aren't P5 related

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You are awesome post more so people can see what 4channel should be :)

If you bought both games

youtube.com/watch?v=zXRZ2bZ79ZE

April 15th if you had both Versions, that's still 20+ days after Sakurai said "pretty soon" in March of that year. We're not getting Joker until after the Persona 5 R bs on the 24th/25th

>If you bought both games
I literally snapped a photo of the Smash 3DS display case at GameStop while waiting in line to pick up my Wii U copy. EZPZ

Heard some shit about how Sakurai would go into work with a fucking iv drip to make his 40 hour work "days" possible with only a few naps.
What a mad lad.

That's not how it worked dumbass, there was a code inside each version you had to register via your Nintendo Account

up b - jetpack
side b - polar bear ride
neutral b - spin
down b - tnt crate

I call bullshit, smash isnt that much more intensive than other Nintendo games, and he doesnt even do the hard programming or QA

Its almost liek they announced the damn thing a litttle too soon before they even started something on it to show!

Why do fucking japs LOVE to pull this fucking shit!?

Now we wait 6 months for the next character to be announced and wait another 4 for them to starting making it!

Yea, Steve and Doom Marine, screencap this

He doesn't want to see Cap fuck up aliens with Mjölnir
>He doesn't want to see Hawkeye actually do something important for the first time in a marvel movie

I think you got the wrong door, Final Destination is two stages down

banjo and yoshimitsu

Found the article

m.ign.com/articles/2019/03/05/sakurai-reveals-he-sometimes-received-iv-drips-while-making-smash-ultimate

It’d be cool to see him use TNT for a smash attack that kills real early but does slight damage to Crash

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Those are not smash attacks

why wouldn't he? atlus isn't a bunch of diva bitches like square.

The last time Sakurai said "X is coming soon", it was Mewtwo. Mewtwo came out about 24 days later.

if this is bait it's incredibly well done

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>yas
die.

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Your whole sound selection will be Mementos Theme and Mementos Theme Remix and you're gonna like it.

>Same size as Ness
oh god it's gonna be chibi Erdrick isn't it

>not a bravely default character, where all of the characters are chibi
big brain hours

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Jokes on you I liked this trailer anyway

At least include the bit where he hugs Morgana ya dip

AS OUR POWER GROOOOWS

You have literally no idea what you're talking about. When I was in Japan every single bloody building had AC.

reddit.com/user/noatesty

I think its possibly Erdrick but I'd also be surprised if its his chibi design
Its only been used in the original NES game and has been retired completely in favor of his SNES design

Brave can't wall jump at all and height is still a good reference for what size they're intending the character to be from the start.
Weight and speed is subject to change (Plant) but height seems like something they'd nail in the start

I love BD but I highly doubt that any of them have a chance to get in, also they may be chibi but I think they'd be much taller if they were in

Based as always Otischad

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"Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong door, the mortal kombat audition's two blocks down."

This shit is the grinch all over again. The parameters will change, Piranha Plant was never leaked

reddit.com/r/SmashBrosUltimate/comments/9fk0yw/potential_dlc_fighters/e5y2g4v/?context=3

whens rayman though

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Now THAT is a based lineup

Joker
Black Mage (full magic user, 2nd SE rep)
Heihachi Mishima (Heavy, villainous character and 2nd namco rep)
Monster Hunter (Heavy fighter with multiple weapons, 3rd capcom rep)
Bandanna Dee (b/c fuck you I want him)
Sandbag as a surprise last fighter
how'd I do?

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>same size as ness
>brave = determined
i hope you'll like your new undertale rep

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>i hope you'll like your new undertale rep
I would unironically prefer sans over anime swordboy version 15

Unironically really bad.

They are taking their sweet time with the character releases. games been out half a year and they added one character nobody gives a fuck about. at this rate we are getting two per year

Man, how the fuck is Sakurai so /fa/shionable?

They are holding back because of Atlus. Look at this shit.

On the 24th, they are going to release Joker with a joint confirm by Atlus that P5R will have FeMC and she will be part of Joker's alts in Smash.

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Olimar and alph work differently than ever other costume and Mac and wireframe Mac do as well, doesn’t have to be every other costume at all it could be one alt

>port

I'm a lurker, so I'm just here to say neck yourself capeshitter

I'd cream myself

Fucking shut up, you don't have inside knowledge. If you want to roleplay go to retardera and never come back.

Banjo and who??

Are they seriously going to reveal his gameplay and stage literally on release day?

>Joker will be available today!

Who the fuck is in charge of these "hype" cycles? It's been nothing since December and the shitty cocktease in February.

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Oh this invitation? YOU CAN'T AFFORD THIS INVITATION

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I want his Direct to be at least next week, I’m so tired of this damn wait.

punch out wii was a fucking masterpiece

It's extremely underrated. One of the best games on the Wii by far. Its a shame that we might not get another one because of twitter

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In this case Atlus since they're holding the news hostage for their own Persona 5 events.

3.0.0 had better goddamn be a pretty spiffy game content update besides Joker and Mementos. Give us a couple extra veteran stages that didn't make the base game cut for our waiting trouble. Or a couple extra alt costumes for non-Mii fighters (I'd even settle for resorted recolors that should've never been cut to begin with like Fire Mario or Black Yoshi).

Your hopes will be in vain.

Excuse me for using the evidence in front of me to make a reasonable prediction.

Also, even if there was a female MC it's somewhat likely they couldn't share animations, even a different taunt or victory is why echos exist.

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You are the reason watching marvel movies is a guilty pleasure

Flynn echo > FeMC

>JOKER IS COMING TO SMASH BROS. ULTIMATE “VERY SOON”
naw really
i thought we was gonna have to wait a whole year

Get in here bros.
youtube.com/watch?v=sLKEGKR2tOA

I just want them to reveal the next jrpg swordfighter aka erdrick, so i can get back to not caring about the DLC

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Erdrick being the next reveal would confirm the Pass as being tailored for Japan foremost.