>steam shuts down
>lose all my games
>epic store shuts down
>lose all my games
GOG doesn't have this problem
Steam shuts down
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Pirates don't have this problem.
Can you shut yourself down op please?
GOG shuts down, where are you gonna get everything you don't have a local copy of?
qBittorrent
goodoldownoh...
>He doesn't know
spoonfeed me, senpai
based and GOGpilled
b-but Yea Forums told me Papa Gabe has a secret plan to let everyone keep their games if Steam shuts down...
are you talking about god-games.com? is that one safe?
Plenty of Steam games are already DRM free
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>I torrent a game
>I keep it forever
Eat shit Epic/Gaben.
>steam shuts down
>The owners, Valve, have promised that if they ever do close the Steam servers then they will first make a patch to keep games running without them.
>trusting GabeN's word
>artifact will be what half life was to single player games
AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONONONONONOONONONON
>steam shuts down
>just pirate my games
>epic store shuts down
>just pirate my games
>GOG shuts down
>just pirate my games
I really don't see a problem here.
It is, but it isn't maintained as well. Dead links everywhere.
>have to install their shitty client to get patches
>can't just provide patches as singular downloads like it was done before Steam
GoG is so based right guys? I'm so glad I get to pay for abandonware
If Steam ever went under and they took all their games with you, Valve would be facing hundreds of lawsuits left, right and center.
Most companies don't want to deal with that shit, so even from a pure business and profit standpoint, they have every incentive to ensure that there's a failsafe in place to prevent consumers from losing all of the content they paid for.
>Stadia launches
>Piracy shuts down
Based Google
haha THIS kike middleman represents ME!
>can't just provide patches as singular downloads
Nigga what? they do that, did you check the backup launchers?
>not trusting GabeN's word
The internet would truly have become an utterly irredeemable hellscape if people have forgotten to pirate by then though.
>Steam has like 20000 games
>Around 200 are DRM free
WOOOOOW 1% of games have No Drm
99% of games on GoG have no DRM in comparisson
I don't think companies this huge will just fall over like that in in 2019. It's like the conspiracy boomers going nuts over an EMP attack and buying can goods and precious metals.
Then why can't old OSs play steam games anymore?
Why would they not do it?
Most games on steam just have the Steam/Steamworks DRM, which is very easy to circumvent.
>ctrl+f Starb
>0
Wow good job.
We should launch our own online game store Yea Forums what should we call it?
Game BOOTY
Devs pay 5% per sale
barely any drm
game reviews and friends list
all games allowed except games made in California
Why wouldn't you not have a copy of the games you supposedly own? You don't really own them until you download them, do you. And if you care about having them at all then you will have them. It's your responsibility to keep what's yours safe, GOG's download is only a backup in case you do the stupid and lose the one you have.
tl;dr If GOG goes down a wise man will lose nothing but the free games he never cared enough about.
>die
>can't play games anymore
Only because you don't try hard enough, zombieman.
>gog shuts down
>accidentally drop HDD with backed up games
>money stolen
now what
That's all on you though.
Gamecunny
Only accessible by I2P
Devs pay 50% per sale
No DRM
Doujin reviews and FBI list
Actually just a cover for pizza distribution
The only games I'd lose from steam that I cherish is Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion, and Mount & Blade: Warband. If that ever happens, I would probably just kill myself. pic unrelated.
>Why wouldn't you not have a copy of the games you supposedly own?
Hard disk space is limited?
>accidentally fall down
>break a spine
>life stolen
Now what?
>We should launch our own online game store Yea Forums what should we call it?
The Yea Forumsan
>get robbed
>money stolen
Give me one reason to not just kill myself right now.
>lose all my games
>don't care because I played them all
The only reason nobody's cracked Steam's DRM is that it's pointless to. It's an ongoing service that will patch shit as soon as possible and you'll have to do it again. The moment Steam goes down for good, it's getting cracked and it's staying cracked.
>Hard disk space is limited?
That's it. That's enough Yea Forums for me today. See you guys tomorrow.
What is it now?
THIS
Why?
What is your unrelated picture
You do have a better backup system for your data than a single portable hard drive, right?
>the yellow text
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>implying steam will ever shut down
You lose your download license which is what you paid for same as Steam or Epic.
Death to GoG
Death to Epic
Death to Valve
Death to anyone that pays for digital distribution
>Gabe "After we get the orange box out the door it's going to be episode 3" Newell
>Trustworthy
Don't think so.
You should be pirating to begin with. It should be illegal to charge for a download.
Half Life sucks
>Hard disk space is limited?
No, it is not. Storage is not limited, if you have money to buy games then you have money to buy the resources to store them. And if you cared at all about what happens if GOG dies then you'd already have the means. Why be the guy who asks 'what happens when GOG dies'?, it all comes back to; if you didn't care enough to keep your games safe you've only yourself to blame.
There's a difference between having accumulated stuff over the years and stuff you can get in a moments notice.
Search the archive for .ru
That won't get you there, but it will lead you down the right path.
I'm not talking about them.
Wouldn't that mean you'd have to download your whole library onto your computer or external harddrive? That shit's gonna take up fuckloads of space
Paying for a download license is not buying a game. If it is all on ourselves then we should go back to actual physical copies
This, if all my games were to disappear one day I wouldn't mind.
Learn to have some detachment, especially from a hobby for children.
>Steam
>shut down
Fuck man, whens this gonna happen?
nigga thats a non concern a 4tb external hard drive is 99 dollars storage is cheap 300 dollars will net you 12 tb of storage
But I already play DRM-free games on Steam. Why would anyone use GOG?
Have you tried sharing steam-games with friends on a lan-party?
>steam family sharing
check mate
The same can be said for nearly any other game from any other launcher, all it needs is a crack for it to be "unlocked"
Try that and then try running anything on steam at the same time. I'll wait.
It's up to you to keep your physical copy safe too. Nothing changes but the delivery method.
>a windows problem
come on, you knew what you were getting yourself into when you chose to stick with it
I'm just baiting user, I don't even have a Steam account or friends
On a side note, the GOG website has downgraded significantly lately in website navigation. Search criteria doesn't work right and sale listings never include games you already have purchased. These never used to be issues so not sure why the downgrade. Also seems like GOG is getting less and less quality games these days.
Well if you're gonna store every copy you bought, the same can be done on steam you just need to be on offline-mode once, then you can play everything you have even offline in the very same way gog does.
Steam would be bought out before it gets shut down.
And shutting down would be the better option if or when it comes to that.
It's not exactly the same. Steam actually installs the game with registry entries and everything, that can't always be straight up copied and backed up. Gog gives you a portable installer file.
Plus, Steam's offline mode isn't 100% reliable. You never know when it'll decide to just not work.
I can already tell you're going to face a whole lot of disappointment in your life, I'm sorry user.
>he doesnt store all of them on am external harddrive
isn't there a way to play these games without Steam?
Previous one suddenly stopped working and the last NAS drive I could afford was so feeble it broke after I accidentally KNOCKED IT OVER.
Well yeah. Any game without steamworks or 3rd party drm can just launch from the exe without opening the steam client. Really, Valve should explicitly mark those games in the store, because steam gives you no info about it whatsoever.
steam has been shit ever since they made you download that data mining steam app “safety measure”
>with registry entries
With what?
inb4 "you don't really need a registry entry to run an executable? of course you do! otherwise the registry would be retarded!"
New insomnia sale fucking when?
unless you have all the games you've bought downloaded it has the same problem
You don't know me.
>lose all my games
How exactly much games you own?
And i'm talking not about shovelware for $0.99.
How many games are in your library you definiely gonna replay?
All I'm saying is you can't just copy the game folder from steamapps/common and always expect it to work elsewhere. It might work a lot of the time, but sometimes you'll miss important parts that the installer put elsewhere.
>my house burned
>lose all my games
Just let it go.
All I'm saying is you're wrong. The registry has nothing to do with it. Many games make use of a steam api file included in the install directory. If that file is missing or has been carelessly edited, the game will immediately close when you try to run it. Many games don't make use of this api, mostly indie games, so those can run without getting steam involved. But most AAA games do and you would need a crack or something for those. That's the gist of what's happening.
So for many games, you can actually just copy the entire directory and run it where ever.
Not the other guy btw. I was just skimming and that post caught my eye.
What's the other 1%?
GOG is great. Except for one thing: publishers hate them and will not sell their games on GOG.
Publishers want control. They don't want you to play offline, refuse game updates or archive installers on a flash drive .
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WHAT
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>Publishers want control
this
>the "I have infinite hard drives with infinite storage space and infinite backup hard drives for the infinite games that I own" meme
they're not expensive
you can get a 2 TB hard drive for $62
You don't actually OWN games. You rent a license to play them.
Steam shutting down would likely trigger a slew of the most massive lawsuits the world has ever seen in order to keep access to games.
>2TB
That's like 15 modern games.
oh no this fake quote didn't happen, FUCK STEAM
Everybody pins the blame on Steam for having so many exclusives, but it's mainly the publishers. Even when they put their games on GOG, they stop updating them and deliberately leave out content. Honestly, just pirate any game that does this.
And? Why should I care about the "ownership" of data I can not resell?
>b-but they can take it away
Even in the very unlikely scenario where this happens, I can just download it again from the internet
Nearly every game i've gotten from GOG requires GOG Galaxy in order to play it.
So no, OP, you're wrong.
>GOG Galaxy shuts down
>lose all my games
what kind of games you are getting that needs GOG Galaxy?
So what did you buy? Because I have 100-odd games on gog and literally none of them need the client.
>>steam shuts down
By the time Steam actually does shut down, we'll all probably be dead. Companies with strangleholds like this don't just go out of business. No matter how hard Epic tries to make it happen.
Did you miss the Epic store? Steam has 2 years left tops.
All the ones that are actually worth playing.
The ~$1 games you fill your drive with don't count.
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>fake
kys valve cockgobbler
Names, bitch.
>did you miss that store that's burning through their Fortnite money quickly force people to use their store, which only pisses off consumers who instead turn to piracy
No, I didn't.
>Did you miss the Epic store?
You mean the store that's doing horribly and whose numbers are only inflated by the fact that you need it to launch Fortnite?
If Steam shuts down, video games will be the least of your worries.
It would be very interesting to see what happens following a major digital storefront closing and access to purchased content being lost. No doubt we'd see big changes come as a result from consumer protection to licensing and copyright.
you can download the steam.dll pirates use to play without steam launch
but you won't get updates automatically
That is literally impossible because its illegal. No game developer has ever agreed to provide a license to their game in perpetuity to any consumer.
You have never and will never 'own' a game, except that which is open source, because you never 'buy' a game the same way you purchase a table or lamp, you are actually purchasing a license to access the content made by developers. Unlike purchasing a physical item like a table, this means developers can literally for no reason deny you access to your game at any point they want.
Now you might have some consumer protection laws which would allow you a refund in such a situation, but you cant demand access to a game even if you purchase it, you are only entitled to either access if the develop allows it or your money back.
do you think there will be a digital storefront that offers 100% profits to a dev?
Reddit store.
You mean like Uplay For Ubisoft?
If we are talking third party you have to generate revenue somehow to sustain the store. So yes, you could have a store that doesnt take a cut from sales but you would need an alternative method to make money. Hosting all the content required for something like Steam or Epic takes a shitton of cash and resources.
Unlikely. A storefront will always take some portion.
Indie devs have hosted their game on their own websites to purchase where all the money goes to them.
Do you have tens of millions of dollars sitting around to hire all the personnel to manage the servers, services, customer service, global consumer legal requirements and distribution law?
Because if you do thats great lets get started.
The thing about steamworks is that it's completely broken and can be bypassed easily.
Steam games could have other DRM which is less susceptible to cracking, but those games were never going on GoG anyway.
I say you should still support GoG, because it's not trying to eat the world like steam is. But it's main feature of DRM free games isn't that critical to the preservation of games and your property.
It's also useful as a stamp that the games sold there will not have that hard DRM that you can't bypass easily.
The EGS does not feature first party DRM, and besides Metro I don't know what the games they sell use in the way of DRM.
no you moron it means valve releases an official steam emulator
fuck's sake
steamworks is drm in the barest sense, it's been btfo so hard i'm honestly not sure it can still be legally called drm
They have no way of revoking my DRM free physical copies, they can't even revoke the ones with offline DRM.
Even GOG can revoke the download license idiots give them money for
You shouldn't "support" any company. Don't care about physical copies or an actual physical copy isn't available? Then you should be exclusively pirating. GoG is just as cancerous as Steam and Epic.
My old physical copies with offline DRM don't require an account or server authorization at any point to access the data from the source (the physical media) unlike GoG which requires both to access their source (their server)
Pirated games often lack the latest patches.
oh hey
its the delusional physicalfag autismo who thinks the internet is DRM and doesn't understand how software works
why do you show up in every single store thread
>all his games will fit on AN external harddrive
What's it like being poor?
>Gog shuts down
>Can no longer redownload library off the website and have to go to shady 3rd party ones claiming they have "GoG releases" to get games back
A patch means the game was released unfinished which is a form of anti piracy, why would you financially reward that on top of financially reward them for charging for a download?
Brainwashed zoomer that can't see the damage digital distribution has done to gaming because the only thing he knows is getting fucked
>how DARE you not pay for a download
Piracy isn't DRM, requiring an account and server authorization to check if your account has the license as a form of DRM is DRM
>Internet shopping is DRM
Jesus christ, this guy.
It's fake. It's not a real game. I don't want you to lose sleep over it thinking I'm keeping some epic secret.
thank you for illustrating how fucking stupid you are
really
couldn't have done it without you
If steam ever went under Valve wouldn't exist anymore.
It is.Always online requirement for single player games is drm
tls must be drm too
holy shit drm is built into the system man
That's not what gog is, or even steam most of the time.
Everybody here will be long dead before Steam dies.
True, some people here will kill themselves before 2020
ever heard of a steam emulator dipshit?
when jews starting to hate money.
Yeah, except nah. You can't copy a Steam game to another computer without Steam (or even one WITH Steam) and expect it to work unless it's one of the DRM-free ones, which are absolutley the exception to the very rigid rule. Hell, even getting Steam to do a file check on something you copied will likely end up with it deleting it and redownloading the entire game because it's such a piece of shit software.
>buying modern games
bro for the price of one (1) physical game you can get a hard drive big enough to store many hundreds
What is stopping you to burn your games on cds?
Everyone has conveniently ignored the fact that developers and publishers can just host downloads and installers on their own domain. PCgaming is not console, they don't need an approved store to sell their product.
They can, but they'd need proper infrastructure first. And if you're new to this kind of thing and not sure how to do it, Assassin's Creed 2 launch happens.
>they'd need proper infrastructure first.
not anymore, they can just use a cloud service provider like microsoft or amazon
Well then they're still sharing revenue with a 3rd party.
I started backing up all my gog library to bd-r. Was using the gog galaxy client because downloading all the backup images was easier than through the browser. I got to D before the galaxy client stopped downloading and reinstalls haven't fixed it. Digital storefronts are so bloody inconvenient.
that's like saying buying desks means you're sharing your income with desk manufacturers
business expenses may deduct from net profit but they don't directly impact income
It's almost hard to believe how you show absolutely no empathy and just care about the products you bought like an absolute jew.
empathy is a disease and feeling it is unethical
>GOG doesn't have this problem
Uh huh
>GOG shuts down
>Can't download anymore
>Decide to pirate because you bought it once
>Get copyright notice anyways because they don't give a shit
Welcome to reality faggot, unless you've got a dozen drives to store this shit on you ain't keeping shit and you better keep back ups.
If you don't own an offline external backup, you're an irresponsible person. Not just in the context of video games.
But how? SFM? Gmod? Skyrim mod? What is this sorcery?
>paying for cracks
Technically yes. But hosting digital content requires infrastructure. They can't just use torrents.
What happens if your backup becomes corrupt?
No. But I think the 30% Valve charges on Steam is far too high for what they deliver and publishers are looking for an alternative.
Then it's the same as getting your CD scratched beyond help, shit happens. But you do have an option of building a redundant RAID array if you really care about your files.
I doubt that Steam or EGS would ever shutdown. They would probably get bought out before that ever happens and have everyone's games transfer over.
offtopic but can any Yea Forumsros help me out
I just reinstalled Yea Forums X due to a corruption error and I can't find the option to disable nested replies
please help
Yeah GOG is a good launcher unlike Epic. It has it's place
op btfo