ATLUS BRINGING BEST PERSONA GAMES(3+4) TO MODERN PLATFORMS

what did he mean by that

Maya-nee is so cute!

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Don't worry won't happen.

No, I’m just not an idiot who sees opportunity where there is none

Persona 1 and 2 is too SMTish for Personafags

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I think this is fine, yeah? I kind of just want a Persona 1+2 remake bundle and then a 3+4 remake bundle to come after. Would that be so bad?

Duh he’s not going to announce anything ahead of schedule during an interview with a literally who.
Nobody has ever announced a new game in one of these canned interviews. You are all retarded.

stop giving them money for these lazy ports you fucking autists

That's some pretty stupid formatting.

To be fair, Persona 1 and 2 is shit.

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1 is boring, but I quite liked 2

As long as it never hits Switch I will be happy.

look at this faggot trying to consolewar when nobody asked him to

go cum into your anime pillow you degenerate

I just hope they also take what was added in the PSP version of Persona 3 and Persona 4 Golden on the Vita.

CUTE!

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cringe

Are you ok?

He's obviously not. He's scared that an exclusive game going to a different console will depreciate the value of his PS4

>tfw P1/2 is too persona for me, but also too SMTish for me as well.

Persona is runny diarrhea that only got popular because degenerate waifufags. Kill yourselves.

not the same user

Ok?
Why did you come to a persona thread then?
Your actions are most puzzling.

Given the way Catherine was released on PC, I think there might be a contract in someone's file cabinet that keeps them from shipping to other platforms within 7 years or something of the sort. It's just too weird that they keep on PS given the amount of money they could make. I'm a psfag so I don't really care. But there's no denying it's really strange that they just turn away all that money. Persona 5 is ruined for PC now because the latest emu has caught up to a flawless experience. They blew that one.

I can almost picture what this retarded faggot looks like

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here's one of you

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I agree based on their track record. I think the chances are very slim. And I also think that's a shame and a lost opportunity. But let's be real, these guys just don't like to port stuff and they have a long history of not porting despite fan demands.

atlus only ports as long as there's next to no effort or they're guaranteed to greatly exceed the cost of development, hence all the 3DS ports of DS games.

As if I'm going to go back to those outdated games

Why are you taking the extremely blatant bait?

I would get Persona 4 Golden on Switch.

Not interested in Persona 3 or playing regular Persona 4 again.

Can we just have BOTH P2 remakes already? No? Fuck

P3P is not even the best version of 3

p3p with femc is the only tolerable version of the game.

>I want to not control my characters and spend hours grinding in a pointless dungeon with an ass-retarded story, and spend time running to places when I could just click on the screen and save time.
>worse social links
>worse music
>greasy emo MC
>better

>We will discuss it
>"Hey, shall we bring Persona to other platforms?"
>"No"
>"Oh, okay"

>Hey so you know how we have this event people are spending money to attend
>yeah
>How about we just reveal the announcements to some random fuck head in an interview
>You now work in this room doing meaningless paper work until you kill yourself or leave whichever comes first

You're funny

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Don't you fucking bully Door-kun, nigguh was stone cold

I can't believe she's back

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Switch=Fucked

Oh the damage control is strong in you

yeah, we have better games than Persona.
Based Namco ports Vesperia to all consoles, is making new game likely on switch again
>persona stuck on SOnY console.

The manchildren on the persona team mustve grown up as sony ponies.

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Fucked=Switch

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based underage

I think he's upset he can't play his JRPGs in bed like the people who can afford to have both consoles.

>more fucking Atlus ports

fuck Atlus and anyone who buys this shit

i wasn't joking. fesfags are the meleefags of persona. you guys probably even smell like meleefags.

No seriously, I don't know what the fuck they're going to announce but why would they give a clear cut answer to some random when they have a paid event happening later in the month.
Is P5S the switch version or is it something else entirely? Fucked if I know. Is P5R the upgraded version or is it a random if story? Fucked if I know.
What I do know is that announcing things that would be announced at a paid event is how you lose money. You don't do that. EVER.

Are they gonna make a better version of 3 with femc full party control and no cht content?

If it involves putting in effort then they won't do it.

Finally, I can abandon consoles..

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This

Why not do 1 and 2? I don't wanna spend over 100 bucks on original physicals

they'd be better off remaking 1 and 2 from the ground up at this point than doing straight ports.

those games aren't very fun. It'd require too much effort to try and MAKE them play less like crusty old chicken.

I think P1/2 would be best as novels.

Oh greeeat, more Personas.

WOW RE-RELEASES LIKE WOW

1 and 2 would be perfectly fine with p5's battle system and visible encounters.
now, they'd have to put a lot of time and effort into making modern 3d versions of mikage-cho and sumaru, making models for all the characters, etc., but then they could reuse all those assets for dancing spinoffs, fighting games and the like.

just give up on atlus user, its not gonna change until people realize how cancerous anime is.

the thing is atlus also doesnt care because P1 and 2 don't make them money.

>hear that Persona 1 and 2 too were dark story wise for modern Persona fans
>one of the first bosses in P1 is actually defeated by love

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He's referring to the thicc switch dog

They're still doing ONE SMT game while seemingly hating it all the way through. And they own Vanillaware, which they also seem to want to shit on, given the attention they make to their games on advertisements.

:(

Imagine being forced to play the shit version of this game with shit performance and res scaling

P1's final boss was literally beat by the power of fucking friendship. P1 wasn't very dark and was pretty boring.

I bet they will give p1 a shot sooner than later. But 2? that game is Atlus black sheep.

P2 has its dark moments but it's not as dark as P3 aside from maybe the end, and is a lot campier. Pic related.

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Hey, if they're doing remasters of P3 and 4 maybe they'll be doing remasters of games made in the same engine. Namely the good ones.

>We live in a timeline where Persona 3, 4, and 5 will release on the same Nintendo platform
What a time to be alive!

fuck my life man i spent too much time on this site i already know the killer in p4
its a shame because i emulated it and it had one of the comfiest yet strange atmosphere i experienced in a game. i hate myself for stopping and actually reading threads

Atlus wouldn't have the balls to remake P2 and do anything with Hitler again. They're nothing but pussies now.

It has not one, but two promiscuous sluts as party members. That alone makes it harder than people will die someday.

To be fair, Persona was the spinoff series of SMT, and arguably still is. But now it sounds like they're making plans to bring the series back home, now that they realize it's popularity.

You should hate yourself for being a little bitch who cries about spoilers too.
Why would they remake a game that keeps selling like shit?

P5 had a literal prostitute and they loved her, though.

P3 tries way too hard to be dark.
again
>greasy emo protag
>SUPER EDGY SHOOTING THEMSELVES
>MEMENTO MORI SO DEEP BRO
>midnight and people turn into COFFINS
it made all the high school and middle school edgleords who loved anime cream themselves, thats why persona got so popular.

it's a whole different ballgame since p5, user. anything with the persona name on it can make them money now since it's mainstream. you're crazy if you don't think full remakes of 1 and 2 would sell like crazy in a post-p5 world. especially since so many fans haven't played them, so they'd basically be like brand new games to those people.

I don't need old Persona games port to modern platforms

Just port Persona 5 to Vita so i can play all mainline games in one console

>Persona 1
>bad
t. brainlets who missed the point
Writing in Persona 1 was too subtle for you.

spoilers dont matter, the experience and the relationship you build with the game is what matters.
I got spoiled on one of my favorite games before I played it. I was mad at the time but I dont give a shit now that I look back. It still struck me just the same because I was enjoying the game
Stop being a pussy,

So? P5 is darker than P3.

This post is a great way to tell if someone never even played P3. P3 never tries to be edgy user, a story’s themes can be about death and dark things without automatically being edgy.

youtube.com/watch?v=0VLNOXkc7nk

Would love to play p3p in persona 5 engine.

Would be amazing

Yeah playing on consoles is the least optimal experience :)

>because P1 and 2 don't make them money.
Persona 1 is the second best selling game in the series and both Persona 2 sold as much as Persona 3.

i played P3, it was trying too hard and its written fucking stupid.
You have to tell the fucking retard its a good idea to date a teacher and they left in the plot thread about the killing website, its fucking stupid. how does the dark hour work with timezones? is it localized? why is the tartar sauce such a shitty dungeon?

their fanbase these days aint buying that shit, that was the playstation kids who liked the cool new game.

Are you retarded? P3 is edgy as fuck and all villains being hilariously bad doesn't help.

But all those things user mentioned are P3 trying to to be edgy. Evokers are unnecessarily edgy and people turning I to coffins is downright cringey.

>You have to tell the fucking retard its a good idea to date a teacher
>you have to tell people what they want to hear to get them to like you
That's realistic, though.

again, 1 and 2 remakes would basically be the "cool new games" to a generation that started with 3. the persona name sells itself now. all atlus really has to do is not pull some retarded shit like only selling half of p2 in the west for the third time.

>P2 sold as much as p3
Wrong. And the psp parts sold even less.
Persons 2 was a financial disaster.

the thing is there's no plotline where you tell the dumb fuck he's being stupid, and when he gets his shit handed to him he comes back saying you were right and you have enhanced brohood status until you finish his Slink and never talk to him again.

And a dog with a persona and a robot that acts as its translator isn't. Your point?

retard

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Why do I always this image with no source attached to it?

Again, p2p IS sold so bad that Atlus didn't bother localizing EP.
It's time to accept that people don't care about your shitty game and that's why it keeps falling flat over and over again.

It was made as a joke a long time ago on /pg/ and isn't real, but retards saved it anyhow

whoever bought P1 is not their current fanbase because they're not under the age of 20 anymore.

Because user is a shitposter. He also loves to ignore the fact that Persona is more popular on the west.

>game has fantastical elements so therefore every interaction and facet in the game can be nonsense and without consistency

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once again, that was before p5, back when persona was still a niche series. you have to separate the pre-p5 era from the post-p5 era. you are absolutely retarded if you don't think 1 and 2 remakes with modernized gameplay would sell well now with how much the franchise has grown.

>wahhhh I can't type "persona sales data" in google and hit the first link

Are nu-Personafags really this desperate?

>Persona is more popular on the west
Wrong and there are no Western sales data whatsoever.

>calling it nupersona when the older games weren’t even that good to begin with.

>Again, p2p IS sold so bad that Atlus didn't bother localizing EP.
Because Atlus completely fucked original Persona in the West.
- Persona 1's localization is a disaster
- Innocent Sin outright wasn't translated because muh Hitler
- Eternal Punishment is a fucking second game in the duology

Once again. P3P and P4G did fine, and that was also before P5.
Sorry, but it's time to accept p2 is just not that good of a game and that was it did so poorly at the time.
A remake of p1 would be great though.

look, faggot. Persona is anime cancer that has always pretended to be more than it is. The writing of 3 onward has been skin-deep while masquerading as insightful. The only people who play it now just want to cream on their waifus and jerk off at how much better their favorite series is than others. P1 and 2 don't have waifus or bikini scenes and arent palatable to the current market.

>nu-Persona
>Persona 3 came out in 2006

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Yep, original Persona games were so bad that Persona 5 is a straight rip-off of Persona 2.

P2 sold like shit in Japan too. Was it Hitler's fault too? Both p2's barely managed to reach P1's numbers.

>Only post The japans sales
>Don't post how well the remakes sold
Is this becuase it proves everything you said wrong?
Let me help you user

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It’s not a rip-off if it was made by the same company.

Cute

again,

>P3 sold the most including remake sales
Fucking what now?

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Persona 5 is the only Persona to surpass Persona 1, retard.
Both Persona 2 sold around as much as Persona 3.

The only reason old Persona games are abandoned is because Hackshino is afraid of being exposed as a hack that stole everything from old Persona games.

It's a rip-off if it's made by a different writer.

P1 and P2 gameplay is dated trash if Atlus ever re-releases them they should be rehauled with P5 gameplay on top

>P1 and 2 don't have waifus or bikini scenes
But it does. Have you ever played the game before user?

they did "fine" by niche franchise standards. p5 was a quantum leap forward by comparison. it single-handedly introduced so many people to the franchise who weren't fans before. now that they've got those people hooked, the obvious next step is to introduce them to "the origins of the franchise" by porting 3 and 4 to modern platforms and remaking 1 and 2.

New poster here, the complain can be seen when it's distinctly not the same team.

pc

absolute brainlet

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It's right fucking there at the bottom of it user, are you blind maybe?

I wanna keep responding but I feel like this user is baiting hard.

When did I say P1 was bad, retard?

>ersona 5 is the only Persona to surpass Persona 1, retard.
Says right here in overall sales including remakes P3 sold more user

>Atlus finally makes it big
>her let's port old games with complete different styles to alienate our customers
Retard.

I'm currently slogging through P1. it's pretty terrible tbqh

We’re talking about the base game user not overall sales. Please keep up.

no, because it's a terrible playing game. anyway, it doesnt have waifus as we see them now, way too much characterization.
the most ive seen of P1 is actually of the american localization.

>p2 doesnt have waif-

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We are talking about sales though. What's next? Only first week counts?

You could’ve at least posted the updated chart

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>making new game likely on switch again
Not only doubtful but why would you want this, if it isn't on Switch you lose nothing, if it is on Switch then the port will be severely cut down and run and look like shit on the Switch, why would you want this, it's better to just accept your indie overlords if you are interested in the Switch as a platform. FACT.

Persona 5 Serfs edition confirmed!

She's as much of a waifu as Kawakami. Only newfags and normalfags care about her.

>low effort remasters directed by Meguro didn't sell
what a shocker
retard shouldn't have replaced the soundtrack with his own low-effort j-pop, it got backlash even in japan

>persona 1 gameplay being worse than a slog of calendar system
bait or underage

Based phil spencer in japan making these japs get porting or else another atomic bomb will be delivered. Whose ready to get 1000/1000 in persona 3 and 4 bros?

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We are talking about remakes you fucking shitposter, way to fucking try to go "nah that don't count" when someone proved you wrong.

i'm guessing it's a p3 babby who's insecure at the fact that p2 runs circles around p3 in every way.

It's a hiku dumbass

Persona doesn’t have any remakes.

That has to be fake, but also ouch, I guess SMT is like Final Fantasy now, it's a series that will cater to western tastes because that's where the market is.

What the fuck is this English?

What? If you think the story is bad why would you like P3P? Literally the same story just nothing makes sense because of FeMC

It has fucking P1P, it's right fucking there on the sales chart. You have to be shitposting.

>western tastes
>from a chart about sales in Japan
Retard

>all female characters are waifus
sure thing, the Switch is also a hot market and Sony is now full california so why wouldnt you go with switch? btw, when the switch was being announced Tales of was listed as series that would come to it. Bamco knows that going multipat means more people play your game because of a wider market reach.

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The west doesn't give two shits about SMT though.

They should just do 3D remakes of those games

drinking
story points arent affected by the gender of the MC because the MC has no personailty

>3 mil worldwide sales for p5
>only 800k for japan
No really, it's for westerners now.

Not so fast... *emulates*

too much efforrt not enough money

>why wouldnt you go with switch?
Underpowered console.
>Sony is now full california
There’s nothing to censor in Persona or SMT besides Mara.

>persona
>smt
I know SMTfags are starved for attention, but c'mon dude.

I don't think I have it in me for more P3 and 4 content.

It is if you actually played the game.
They made Junpei sexist.

neither are an issue since they can reuse all the assets to give 1 and 2 the full array of spinoffs like they've done with the modern games.

>if it is on Switch then the port will be severely cut down and run and look like shit on the Switch
I mean, they're doing the next SMT on Switch, and Atlus has never been a graphic powerhouse. Their most next gen game has been a PS3 game upresd and a game that they ported on the Vita of all things. Atlus' console-video game allegiances are not a matter of power, really.

I don't care about P3 after the shitty dancing game, but I could do with a P4 racing game.

P1 sold like shit guys, we can stop fighting now

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they would have to hire new voice actors and make new models and probably rework the story, you overestimate how much effort atlus likes to put into things. Remember a vast majority of their ecent releases were ports of DS games with minimal facelifts to content and Atlus USA charged us 50$ for them/

mainline smt doesn't do persona 5 numbers, so of course atlus is not going to devote as many resources to it.

I've played P3 and P5, but not P4. I don't have a PSP or Vita, only a PS2. Is P4 vanilla still worth playing? Everyone I've heard has told me Golden is 100% superior.

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Personas 1 & 2 don't really have much in common with 3-5 to be honest.

The older ones are a lot more like SMT x Jojo than post-P3 Persona.

I doubt 1 & 2 will ever get ported again now that the series is so different to avoid brand confusion. Unless they rebranded them as a sub-sub-series like "SMT: Persona: Revelations" or some shit

>Story points aren't effected
>>Junpei now needs to be sexist for his beginning plotline to even start
>>For some reason everyone thinks you and Yukari are lesbians????? At the start of the game because they had to somehow keep the same line of dialogue from the male route
>>Pharos being a boy doesn't make sense
>>Ryuji being a dude makes even less sense
>>Orpheus is now a girl but they were to lazy to make Orpheus Talos, Thanatos or Messiah a girl too
>>Akihiko shouldn't get Caesar if Shinji is alive and the same goes for Ken, if they did awaken to a new persona they would be completely different

The list goes on

Good, good. But what about that release of SMT I and II with proper inventory descriptions and 3D rendering on modern consoles and in english, Atlus?
Shouldn't be to hard to use the EO engine again for them.

>Personas 1 & 2 don't really have much in common with 3-5 to be honest
I don’t think you ever played it to be honest

The only real big thing to do would be to make the overworld 3D, they could honestly just use the original geometry for the dungeons since they're 3D

Sony being full cali means nothing, Nip devs are still devoutly loyal to Playstation as a brand, and they sure as fuck aren't moving, there was like 2 all up, Otomate who make VNs about cute boys, and Omega Labyrinth, Otomate has been seeing low sales on Switch and has been begging fans to come over, in spite of basically going Switch exclusive, and it's actually very easy to predict that Omega Labyrinth's devs will have to downsize in the future.
>that pic
You're aware that that was talking about the shitty Tales of Port, and not a new game right, Ninendo were basically cooking the books with these, remember when From was listed, it was a double dip, since Bamco were listed too for the same game, and that game wasn't even ported to Switch by From, it was handled by a third party, blatantly trying to grasp at any straws for relevance, Nintendo are pathetic.
>switch
>hot market
Then why did the latest Atelier game sell more than double on PS4? it's not a hot market unless you are Nintendo, or the latest trending indie that already scored a few million sales on PC.

Fucking nigger, you clearly replied to the wrong post, SMT is nowhere near as popular as Persona, if you added SMT to that chart it would fail to compete when combining worldwide sales.

SMT is being made for Switch, it's not being ported from PS4 to Switch, but even then.
>unreal engine
It's fucking dead, expect it to look and run worse than P5 on PS3.
I was talking about Tales of anyway.

overreading into shitty game wrirting. thats only things that a gender faceleft changed, theres nothing else that the game affected, and a vast maority of what you said was what only autistics would read in to it.

besides some quality of life changes vanilla is very much worth playin

Most of P3-5 is referencing P1-2

>Everyone I've heard has told me Golden is 100% superior

P4G has one new good Social Link and then a bunch of bloated garbage tacked-on. P4 Vanilla already rides the line on its story becoming retarded with the Scooby Doo shenanigans during a murder mystery, but P4G blows the whole thing out of the water and ruins the tone of the game.

It also has the worst "expansion character" in the history of RPGs.

Vanilla is a better experience overall to be honest, just do yourself a favor and emulate it so you can make Fusion less time consuming.

Well considering there is a Persona 3,4, and 5 I think people should be able to figure out there's a 1 and a 2. What exactly is there to gain from spinning off 1 and 2 into a sub-series even though those games establish some of the series core principles? I know the Persona fanbase isn't exactly the most intelligent but come on I think they know how to count at least.

Just because you ignore the problems doesn't mean they're not there you stupid fuck

just dont play persona and save hours and hours of time

Fuck off Eric.

>probably rework the story
They wouldn’t. They don’t have to deal with the calendar system so it’ll be easier and quicker to work on than the other persona games.

> ports of DS games with minimal facelifts to content
What did you expect?
DeSu1 had fully voiced dialogue and an extra day.

>Personas 1 & 2 don't really have much in common with 3-5 to be honest.
you mean besides all the shit that hashino blatantly ripped off from them?

P4G is honestly better as a second playthrough. The new opening is more of a "welcome back" since it has like 2 references to it being a murder mystery. The original opening is better

>SMT is being made for Switch, it's not being ported from PS4 to Switch, but even then.
PS3 to Switch, don't forget. About the UE4 part, well, MAYBE if they keep it at 30 fps it'll have a decent resolution? Perhaps? How did that Yoshi game end up doing beyond the release anyhow?

3-5 have superficial things in common with 1 & 2 like Igor and the butterfly motif, but 3-5 doesn't continue the story from the 2 duology.

Not to mention the endings of both Persona 2 games show a strong justification for why 3-5 became their own thing disconnected from 1 & 2

Some people thought Fallout started at 3 and final fantasy at 7

i dunno i got desu for 15 bucks used way after the fact. point is atlus is super overblown in how good they are and how smart their fanbase is, look at the people here writing essays about this shit.

>he says while posting smtiva
Golden is 100% better except for the voice of one characters but vanilla is still worth playing

There's no story to continue on from Persona 1-2 since they wrap up their own story very nicely. The only thing they could do is maybe bring Philemon and Narly back to the front of the story

Seething random fusion cuck mad P4G mad the whole SMT franchise 200% less of a pain in the ass to play.

>ps3 to switch
I'm talking about SMTV, and I mentioned Unreal engine, it's going to look and run like shit, would be legitimately surprised if it was even comparable to the PS3 release of P5 at all, it certainly as fuck isn't going to look anything like the trailers they've shown.

Are you ok?

okay guy, but like, femc is the better way to play the game because the slinks arent as retarded, go back to watching evangelion for the 5oth time and jerking it to asuka or whatever anime weeaboos do post 2010.

>they actually read the surveys
Imagine that

>He thinks chie should sound like a 40 year old woman

you must be drunker than i am, smt was never a great series, just pretty good.

Devil Survivor did it before P4G did

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Again the FeMC fanbase shows how stupid they are and the real kicker is you can't fix stupid

The PS3 to Switch thing was about the comment you made before the UE4 thing. About SMTV, it'll be seen. I don't have much hope in graphics anyhow. I'm a fucking Switch owner, for fuck's sake.

Which is what you'd have expected them to do if they planned on keeping P1 & 2 around in the canon.

I don't even dislike the P2 Duology (never played Revelations) but the series has shifted focus to be a VN-JRPG hybrid rather than a more conventional JRPG with minor event changes.

>I enjoy directly contradicting the theme of the story by having a female character who's pussy was so good, the bullet was stopped by Shinji's pocket watch and he falls into a coma on impact

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I laugh whenever I replay P3 and remember Jesus is a bad guy

You're Jesus and he's the anti-christ

>liking greasy emo asswipe
femc has better slinks and the only thing that the gender actually changes in the main story is the way you can read in to junpei differently (or look into things only anime autists care about like the little death kid's gender)

>3-5 have superficial things in common with 1 & 2 like Igor and the butterfly motif,
So you aren't going to mention ALL the shit 3-5 straight up stole from 1-2?

>Not to mention the endings of both Persona 2 games show a strong justification for why 3-5 became their own thing disconnected from 1 & 2
t. retard who didn't even play Persona 2.
P3 is a straight continuation from P2EP.

>P5 doesn't even have superior fusion from IV/IVA

Does the gender change the OST?

I thought the Evokers being deliberately designed to be emotionally stressful in order to draw out the Personas was actually cool.

And it's not like they dwell on the image too much. It takes Yukari and Door-kun a second to adapt then they just use them like it's unremarkable.

>I'm a fucking Switch owner, for fuck's sake.
I am so sorry for you man. I haven't seen such a successful console be cucked so hard in my life.

>femc has better slinks
Random fact about the femc SLinks. They were written by one of the P2 writers.

What a shitty argument.
Do you know how many male characters in cartoons, anime and games are voiced by women?
Yes her VA in P4 standard is unironically better.

Man it must be crazy being actually retarded. Like how do you even remember to breath?

I actually like the vanilla chie outside of battles

I'm having fun with it. I appreciate the portability, and this is just kinda like a buff Vita with better games (I WOULD APPRECIATE VANILLAWARE ONES THOUGH). I like it.

>dubfags

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the battle themes and school songs are better, sadly, the worst song in teh game, where you walk into the dorm stays the same. its kind of a shitty ost people only get to like because how repetitive it is through the course of the game, and I dont know why you think it hugely affects MUH GAYM OVERALL MESSAGE WICH MATTERS SO MUCH BECAUSEE IT WAS SO DEEP WHEN I PLAYED IT WHEN I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL EVEN THOUGH IT WAS RATED M.

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>he's so afraid of being called a weeb that he plays weeb game dubbed so he would seem less weeb

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wow, no wonder they were so much better than fes. hackshino needed to be saved by the real writers.

>sadly, the worst song in teh game, where you walk into the dorm stays the same

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>ALL the shit 3-5 straight up stole from 1-2?

Like the non-canon pussy-out ending of P3 aping the ending of P2EP?

P1 & 2 are in the same weird place in the canon that Elder Scrolls 1 & 2 are in. Their major events probably happened in the universe, but the series expanded so much so long after those games were made that whatever is left of their influence is pretty marginal.

Doesn't Hoshino straight up hate P3P? That was always hilarious to me.

For the most part there is literally no difference in quality. Hell English Mitsuru sounds almost the exact same as Jap Mitsuru and Junpei is the exact same

what, you like grunting and wheezing into a mic?

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I'm really confused on why you're defending P3P then complaining and saying how much you hate everything that isn't FeMC. Like why even bother playing? Do you get upset whenever they never mention her in the other games but always mention the MC?

Is the butterfly in the beginning of P5 Philemon or did he just leave that entire game alone?

I play them in the dub because fuck you I can do what I want

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Guess that would explain why a P2 writer was brought in for P3P. If Hashino did indeed dislike the game he probably just found the one P2 writer still at Atlus and dumped the Slinks on him.

Yes he does

I played persona 3 like 7 years ago or something, but P3P is the better way to play the game.

Can't wait for it all on PC.

Oh so you're just an idiot like we all thought

Well then P4G killed the shitty random fusion mechanic for good.

If it was just moon phases that would be fine but the fact that nobody said "wow menu resetting is cancer we should fix that" during playtesting for Nocturne baffles me.

Not to mention faggots actually defended that shit when P4G was released.

shitting on Yea Forums when youre bored and dont feel like playing video games is fun. And I gotta remind Persona babies that their precious series is pandering garbage somehow.

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> Atlus
> PC
ROFLMAO!

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>Seething

>P1 & 2 are in the same weird place in the canon that Elder Scrolls 1 & 2 are in.
Except, you know, Bethesda isn't straight up refusing to even acknowledge their existence. We hear about what happened there in every single game.

I'm pretty sure it's available now, it was even memed as "Persona is on PC now"

:^)

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see, you think that but its more like this

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how is he an idiot for telling the truth? fes is objectively worse than femc p3p in every way that matters. worse gameplay, worse social links. time to face facts, p3 wasn't good until atlus brought back the p2 writers to clean up hackshino's mess.

But I wanna play Persona 2.

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Did they tell who she is?

>animated at 30fps
>only menus at 60fps
lol

then emulate it or pull out your vita, idiot. you dont need to buy a brand new version to play a fucking video game.

Persona 2 is the best because Nyarlathotep is the best Lovecraft god.

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Especially when you consider that unlike 3, 4, and 5. the Events of P1 and 2 are very public and arn't confined to a separate "world". You don't just forget a giant castle poping into existence and leveling a city block, which is what happened in P1. The SEBEC incident and everything that occurred in P2EP would definitely be something that would be remembered.

No
Have to wait until the 24th. Then the 25th for the P5S announcement.
What is wrong with Atlus

Persona 2 is the worst because it has the worst gameplay and it makes you fight combat encounters the most, at least the persona fusion in P1 isnt full retard

>implying I remember where my Vita charger is after all these years

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Atlus hasn’t either. You do know that’s just a meme right?

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okay? emulate it.

>Vita emulator
Where

>vita charger
you mean a micro usb that can be bought anywhere or come with almost every device?

Considering Persona games essentially rip story aspects from JoJo, do we get a universe reset in Persona 6 and a religious figure as the antagonist?

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PSP/PS1, doofus.

Oh, right.
Really want the fucking Vita to be emulated because of P4G and Full Body.

By this point I only want remakes of old trilogy because most people haven't played it and shit on it undeservedly.

That's just a poster.

It's a meme. Expect Persona 6 to be nothing like JoJo 6.

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Considering Jojo straight up ripped off things from SMT that mean we will get a half demon Jojo MC in part 9?

Vita isnt a micro usb, its some weird propietary input that ends in USB on the other side.

That’s only P4 though.

They literally mention Katsuya in P5

And? They acknowledged their existence.

Everything on the Vita is proprietary. I think that's partially why it failed.
>$300 for a handheld
>$40 for a game
>$70 if you want a memory card that will hold more than two games
It was awful.

They've already reset the Universe once before so why not again? That said I wonder if Atlus will carry forward there policy of "In respect for the creators" into P6 since it will have a new director. Will P6 be another soft re-boot like P3 was, while the Hashino games get the "Respect for the creator" treatment.

fes' gameplay is even worse and still gets slurped as the best game in the series by pseuds. at least p2 has a good story and great characters to make up for it, unlike fes.

You can use normal microSD cards on the vita if you crack it

This poster Certain plot points in P3 are mentioned in P2EP and Katsuya is referenced in P5.
Oh and the Kirijo Group split off from the Nanjo Group.

>Considering Jojo straight up ripped off things from SMT

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What I meant to say is I want a version which combines everything that was newly added for P3P into an HD remaster of FES.
And I finally hope that the PSP remakes of Persona 1 and both Persona 2 games also get HD remasters.

>implying TV shit counts

You know that "respect for the creator" was absolute horseshit, right?
Wada (new director) is Hashino's goon, he's not going to innovate anything.

>Jojo straight up ripped off things from SMT

Like what

And I mean the actual SMT video games, not the older computer game, the movie, or the book.

The new director literally does not care and will do whatever he wants. Look at Arena 2 where he references drama CDs

>moving the goalposts

not gonna happen in the forseeable future, give up your hopes and jump the fatlus ship.

Just don't add in FeMC and we're good

My bad. I forgot they used proprietary in the older models.

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>Certain plot points in P3 are mentioned in P2EP
That's because originally there was no Nyx and "big shadow" was Nyarlathotep. Have you ever wondered where we got these shitty Shadows from?

>Katsuya is referenced in P5.
This is dumb as fuck because older games are referenced on TV all the time, but it doesn't really matter if they don't show anything..

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here's a (you) with an autistic image

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Oh I know it was bullshit considering at the time P3 was being made Tadashi was still at Atlus working on DDS.

All shadows you fight belong to Narly. You fight him in P3-5

Yeah, but Nyx is an ayylmao, not shadow.
I really hate this shit, why the fuck did they even make this. Nyx is literally just Nyarly, but slightly repurposed and turned into ayy.

That's not canon. The Answer retconned practically that entire book

Who knows, its even weirder when you consider that Nyx was already in the series, and the two being the same literally writes itself.

its best to ignore the overall canon of persona, they even HAd to make PQQ cannon for god knows what reason

>This is dumb as fuck because older games are referenced on TV all the time, but it doesn't really matter if they don't show anything

That's what I've been driving at too

They didn't "de-canonize" P1 & 2, they've just kinda abandoned most of the legacy they would have in the current games if it was conventional direct sequels.

Like how in TES 3-5 there's a book that says "Wow, that giant death robot sure was something. Good thing interdimensional fuckery made it not exist," acknowledging TES2 but showing it's not really relevant to the series anymore.

That makes me think, how hard could it be to remaster Nocturne? It still holds up fantastically, one of the finer looking games of its time.

its so flat though, and its known for being "suuper hard" so i doubt most of the current JPRG player base would give a shit for it;

Would you even want Atlus to remake Nocturne? I heard there was a sort of style clash going on at Atlus on the SMT side of things. The older guys want SMT to be SMT, while the newer ones want to Persona-fy it to some degree.

they could easily use the "super hard" reputation as a selling point in the era of soulsborne and sekiro.

Wrong thread, also yes, it looks good, but you have to consider that emulator != actual game.

Nocturne being hard is a meme. It's not even the hardest Megaten.

They expressed the interest themselves, besides it doesn't really matter, because new team knows how to make a gripping gameplay and I don't think they'll somehow make Nocturne play worse.
Nocturne was already ruined by Maniax anyway, and if they make "True Reason Endings" it'll be for the best, because TDE being "true ending" is dumb and discredits everything unique to Nocturne.

it's kind of weird how smt is becoming more persona-fied while persona 5 took huge steps back towards being more like smt again.

hard tunr based jrpgs are different, and stream monsters wouldnt play nocturne like they played damp souls.
obviously, just the reputation precedes it

It's not hard though? It just forces you to use buffs and debuffs like in the middle of the game.

Not remake, for the love of god.

> emulator != actual game.
Yeah, but if they're talking about doing remasters of P3/P4, they could do so too of Nocturne or DDS. They run on the same engine after all.

>stream monsters wouldnt play nocturne like they played damp souls.
>wow how was i supposed to know this snowman dude was weak to fire.

>persona 5 took huge steps back towards being more like smt again.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. They just put back things that they arbitrarily cut back in P3 and people ate it up for some reason. It's still bewildering to this day how a game with fucking randomized dungeons could have any success in the PS2 era.

Are you retarded? That doesn't mean jackshit. It's just a standard response to avoid the topic.

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Nocturne remaster is definitely coming at some point, because they will want to introduce the series to Switch players before SMTV and they can't really port IV because it was on the 3DS
The question is whether it will be Nintendo only port or a multiplat port, since Nocturne is only available on PS2, PS3 and PC via emulation

>Yeah, but if they're talking about doing remasters of P3/P4, they could do so too of Nocturne or DDS. They run on the same engine after all.
Nigger, you could've looked at my post and read this
>They expressed the interest themselves
And then googled to find this
>“We’re constantly considering a port or remake of Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne. We’re thinking we want to watch for an opportunity.”

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remember how the media outlets thought SMTIV was too hard and "the dark souls of persona"? that'd happen in twice the amount if they remade nocturne and actually advertised it.

>they can't really port IV because it was on the 3DS
Can't they? A IV/IVF collection sounds like a brilliant idea. And that game definitely pushed the 3DS.

Do excuse me.

>Nocturne featuring Alice from Shin Megami Tensei series
Here you go, instant bestseller.

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stop encouraging their lazy remaking.

>I heard there was a sort of style clash going on at Atlus on the SMT side of things.
That's probably headcanon from fans. The reason why there are so many sub-series within the Megaten franchise is precisely to keep mainline "pure" and develop each new gameplay idea into its own sub-series.
Also Kastura Hashino who directed Nocturne is also the director of Persona 3-4-5 and Catherine

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>A IV/IVF collection sounds like a brilliant idea

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the problem here is that so much of apocalypse is reused SMTIV shit that its like playing the same game. you need space between playing the two or you get bored/confused.

Welcome to almost every RPG sequel ever.

>Also Kastura Hashino who directed Nocturne is also the director of Persona 3-4-5 and Catherine
He did not. Get your facts straight.

>That's probably headcanon from fans.
Read the pic.
>The reason why there are so many sub-series within the Megaten franchise is precisely to keep mainline "pure" and develop each new gameplay idea into its own sub-series.
All sub-series are dead now, thank Persona.
>Also Kastura Hashino who directed Nocturne is also the director of Persona 3-4-5 and Catherine
It was pretty much ghost directed by Kaneko and Okada. Note how Hashino never mentions working on Nocturne himself.

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>All sub-series are dead now, thank Persona
Most of them came into being after Persona came into existence.

>before Persona
Last Bible, Majin Tensei, Devil Summoner, Jack Bros
>after Persona
Devil Children, Digital Devil Saga, Devil Survivor
4 vs 3, BTFO

Jokes aside, you know well that we aren't talking about original Persona trilogy.

>P2: You fight Nazi's during one arc of the story
>P3: Party member is a dog with the ability to summon a Persona for the sole purpose to show that animals can have Persona's too
>P4: Your a part time detective and hunt down a serial killer to restore peace to a small comfy town
>P5: One arc of the game is stopping a Mafia boss to save the children of Tokyo alongside the fact that you're virtually a criminal for the entirety of the game
Anyone who says Persona isn't JoJo Jr. Is retarded. I wouldn't be surprised if the universe got reset in 6.

Then who the fuck you think it was retard? Yamai?

I mean, that's what it says in the credits. Isn't it more believable?

>all of these are super far-fetched
>"one arc"
>a fucking dog

You forgot Strange Journey and Tokyo Mirage Sessions making it 4v5.
More if you count the phone games like liberation dx2.

Oh no someone kill Araki he invented Nazi Germany and its cultural consecuences in japanese media.

Hashino directed Nocturne (with babysitting from Okada and Kaneko), Yamai directed Maniax.

Strange Journey isn't a spin-off series.
Jack Bros actually has two games, with Synchronicity Prologue being the latest.

Yamai was only Maniax. Base game was Hashino.

>similarities
>far fetched
Nigger even SMT makes references to JoJo. There's literally an attack in Devil Summoner called Bites the Dust.
That's not what I implied but alright.

>The older ones are a lot more like SMT x Jojo than post-P3 Persona.
>4 basically steals the plot of part 4 of JoJo

>There's literally an attack in Devil Summoner called Bites the Dust.
Are you this fucking stupid, man?

My bad. It's fucking weird that he went on to produce such a shockingly stupid game as P5.

>Strange Journey isn't a spin-off series
It's not considered mainline and was intended as a spin off from the start.

Synchronicity also isn't a jack bros game, just a game with Jack Frost as the protag.

>small references surely must mean that the entire series will ape up jojo
Only nu-JoJofags can be this retarded.
This is why "is that a fucking JoJo reference" meme is a thing.

Like I said, Nocturne wasn't really Hashino's child, he was just a grunt to realize Kaneko and Okada's vision.

It's absolutely considered mainline.

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>It's absolutely considered mainline
It's not.
retronauts.com/article/906/embarking-on-a-strange-journey-redux
>To be exact, it was developed as a spinoff from the start. The promotional staff at the time judged the game to have high enough quality to be marketed as a numbered title, so they suggested selling it as a numbered SMT game.

Granted it almost was marketed as such.

IV follows a clear continuity from it, it plays like a mainline SMT, it doesn't do anything specific to get away from it either... How is it not mainline? It also got a remaster in the 25th anniversary.

Are you retarded? Hashino even admitted to using JoJo as inspiration on many occasions. You autists will deny anything to prove a point.

If... was a "spin-off" as well, it doesn't mean it's not mainline. It's just not a numbered entry.

Missing the point again.
We were talking about how this is retarded.
There are JoJo references, but it doesn't mean entire series will mirror JoJo.

There's no continuity in IV, Demonicas are just a reference.

You're conflating mainline and canonical.

I just wish more people would play the P2 Duology.

And for the full Duology to be released in the west.

I hope they don't betray their fans by porting it to Switch, I will literally boycott Atlus forever if I have to deal with a bunch of little kids whine and whinge about actually having Persona games for the first time.

>ignoring the Jungian masterpiece that is Persona 1
Persona 1 is the true underrated gem of Persona.

>IV follows a clear continuity from it
I hope you aren't referring to the demonica suits because they don't function as COMPs in SMT4 while they did in SJ.

>I will literally boycott Atlus forever if I have to deal with a bunch of little kids whine and whinge about actually having Persona games for the first time.
Good! Get fucked.

Only if they bring back the old music in the remake. I swear to god if they use the P1P music I will burn Atlus JP headquarters down. Good lord they fucked it up.

>You're conflating mainline and canonical.

>SMT
>canonicity

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>IV follows a clear continuity from it
See Specifically
>On that note, Strange Journey has no chronological relationship to the rest of the Shin Megami Tensei series.
Keep in mind that this is an interview for Deep Strange Journey.

Can you moronic ass faggot shut the fuck up? This is the second thread we've had today where SMTfags have came into a Persona thread. Fuck off. I'm the OP and I'm not afraid to delete the thread if it gets too detailed.

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the battle themes and school days were kino

Hence why you shouldn't be making that mistake.

It's also the second time today where we've had a thread talking about the games and not waifus or Eric shitposting.
Now shut the fuck up.

I retract, then. From the gameplay perspective it is still identical to mainline.

Do delete, OP. You're a complete moron, anyway. Look at you.

>delete the thread
Good luck nigger.

>Hence why you shouldn't be making that mistake.
Hence why it's mainline.

No the original battle theme was better, School Days was not bad though. There are probably two songs from the remake that I actually would not mind them bringing back and the rest can be thrown into the trash.

You didn't make a mistake, it's definitely a mainline game That guy is just being pedantic.

I'm pretty sure overall consensus was that PSP OST is okay but not fitting for the game. Which is true.
Also I'm pretty sure that ATLUS got backlash for doing that in Japan as well, since they didn't replace Persona 2's OST and merely remixed it, plus they allowed players to use the old soundtrack as well.

>SMT fags show up
>thread isnt dedicated to smelling Fuuka's farts
really makes you think

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I did make a mistake, though. My argument that SMTIV stems from SJ chronologically is demonstrably false, as it has been shown. I still think that it plays mostly the same as mainline games, has the same vibe and has been lumped together with other mainline games in events, unlike say DDS.

HAVE SEX SMTFAG

>pedantic
>Eiji Ishida the guy who made it considers it a spin off
Are you retarded?

*clears throat*

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Funny you would call him pedantic when you're relying on inaccurate marketing.

I don't need a simulation of having friends and girlfriends to have something close to sex, user. Get fucked.

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Just a standard PR talk because of the backlash back in the days when they didn't call it IV. It's still mainline.

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>Hence why it's mainline.
Yet we have word straight from the mouth of the creators that it was never and still isn't a mainline or canonical title.

>Get fucked

You don’t understand that’s the problem!

We have word straight from Atlus that it is mainline. Have sex.

>Just a standard PR talk
Yeah sure.
Let's assume it's a mainline title, do you have proof of it?
If... and Nine are stated to be a what if and side story to SMT1. Can you say the same for SJ?

I'm begging you!

Where?
Last I checked they said it was a spin off.

I guess Nocturne, IV and IVA aren't canon either.

>We don’t have a specific answer to give for that question, but I personally think that the Nintendo Switch is a "very attractive" platform.

Daaaamn right.

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There. It's also called "Shin Megami Tensei", which is the mainline series.

You do know they have no connection to SJ right?

I would rather like a SMT Collection that has all of the mainline games. Fuck it throw in a bonus of Kyuuyaku Megami Tensei.

And they have no connection to I, which you stated to be mandatory for the game to be considered mainline.

That would mean Atlus will have to translate II, have mercy, user.

So an image created that disregards what the game is for the sake of marketing is your proof?

>It's also called "Shin Megami Tensei", which is the mainline series.
Then why isn't 20XX or Imagine on there?

No by all of mainline I mean ALL of mainline. If (the flip phone version extras) and NINE as well.

Oh and throw in both Maniax and Maniax + versions of Nocturne so you can select which guest character it is. Giving them both pierce of course.

user, that was the reason why nine and if... despite being spin offs are considered as such.

The concept of an example flew over your head didn't it.

>plays the same as mainline
>has the same themes as mainline
>i-it's not mainline I swear!
nigger

>why aren't cell phone game and MMO game there
Gee

>>plays the same as mainline
>>has the same themes as mainline
So by your logic 3 and 4 aren't mainline then.

>why aren't cell phone game and MMO game there
Nine was an MMO for a short period, guess that isn't mainline. 20XX is a sequel to 1 on the other hand not unlike Apoc or if... Then there's the fact that both have the SMT title.

So, there's only two outcomes.
Atlus goofed and SJ isn't mainline
Or
Atlus goofed and forgot those mainline titles.

>Nine was an MMO for a short period,
Yes and it's called Imagine.

SJ is mainline and no amount of grasping at straws will change it.

>Is P5S the switch version
You people need accept thats never gonna happen

>“Shin Megami Tensei V is still under development. However, because this is Atlus’ first time tackling Nintendo Switch game development, there are many things to consider. How to present the game is our future challenge, so please wait patiently for follow-up news.”
Sounds like SMTV is supposed to be the first Atlus game on Switch to me. So maybe a Switch port of Persona in 3 years.

>Yes and it's called Imagine
Nine and Imagine are two different games you know.

>SJ is mainline
Tell that to Atlus. But if you think you know more about their series than them then you should prove it.

>thinking Eric will ever stop
The guy is obsessed with every rumor about the switch because he thinks shitposting about it will make Nintendofags look bad here when the reality is that no one gives a shit.

Can't wait until he dies of a

Separate teams.

>Nine and Imagine are two different games you know.
Imagine is literally Nine's MMO part.

>Tell that to Atlus.
And they consider SJ mainline, like I have proven earlier.

You have to be really autistic to think that hand-picked shill picks by Nintendo aren't there purely for marketing.

>Imagine is literally Nine's MMO part.
Which is why it was released five years later and on another platform.
They reused concepts but no they're not the same game.

>And they consider SJ mainline
Sorry but they consider it a spin off with no connection to other smt titles as you can see here Which is more reliable than a marketing team that wanted to make a spin off mainline.

Fuck off already. Don't you have a Zelda or Xenoblade thread to shitpost in?

>Separate teams.
So?

>with no connection to other smt titles

>nocturne isn't mainline bro

He's retarded user. He thinks Atlus isn't a reliable source of development trivia for their own games.

Sauce?

Diamond realm.

What makes SJ canon when the director said it isn't?

>Maya
I can't believe they stole Ms Toriumi's username for their shitty spin-off game.

Oh look it's the entry with the worse gameplay in the series. Everyone say hi.

Wow look at these faggots.