Smash community constantly preached about needing more villains and heavies and less swords

>Smash community constantly preached about needing more villains and heavies and less swords
>Incineroar is their most despised newcomer
I don't get it

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But that's Chrom

They want a heavy that plays like a lightweight.

do you need their approval?

What did Incineroar do to be a villain?

He's a heel who can actually do his job for starters.

Imagine that. This Tony the Tiger lookin motherfucker managed to successfully bait thousands of autistic manchildren into blind rage and screaming hissy fits. It's like kids watching WWE for the first time.

he destroyed owlfags' dreams of a new greninja and grinchfags' dreams of their literal whos getting into smash.

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>barra wrestlefurry is the most despised new comer
>implying this is the case
>implying people who care about who gets in aren't autistic
>implying you aren't autistic

only gay furfags like Incineroar

I have fucking standards user.
I didnt want more villians for the sake of it, i wanted villians because i liked the character. Ridley, K Rool, Porky, and Marx are what smash needed. And im glad we got what we did. But i fucking hate incineroar. Very few pokemon repulse me to the degree he does. Machamp, The kyurem forms, the genies, Barbaracle, buzzwole, Bruxish, and Jinx are some pokemon who are way worse, but most people can agree these are awful pokemon. What bothers me is incineroar is shit and people ate it up.
I could not give less of a fuck that "we didnt have a wrestler" or 'We need more villians". We didn't need to fill these arbitrary quotas.

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Smash fans are autistic retards, I am SHOCKED

>Buzzwole
>Bad

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man what a faggot

Apples to oranges. I'm happy Incineroar has a unique moveset but that can't save his shit tier design. I'm not an owlfag either, I would've been equally as disappointed if that fuck had gotten in. We have more than enough Pokémon and it's a shame that the only reason people try and warm up to him is solely because other people dislike him, that's just fucking pathetic.

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>machamp
>barbaracle
>buzzwole
>bad

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>I have fucking standards user.
>asks for boring-ass porky minch
>hates based roar, the genies and buzzwole
yikes, cringe.

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Boring design, another pokemon rep, literal furbait.

user don't let shitposters dictate you, there are people who genuinely like him

Speak for yourself nerd I love Incineroar. I would have preferred it were Hawlucha but I will never say no to a wrestling character

>there are people who genuinely like him
gay furfags arent people

no, people like based roar because he's an alpha chad with a lot of personality. the fact that he makes manchildren seethe merely by existing is just a sweet bonus.

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stay in denial

I should've worded that better. I'm sure there are people that genuinely like him but it's undeniable that some of his fans really do like him because other people don't like him. Doesn't matter if they're shitposters or not.

what creative responses

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I'd argue that people who use him for shitposting don't really like him

so the majority of smash players are "gay furfags," then?

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but i love him

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>some literal fucking who twitter poll
lol

>people
see

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>fighter with a unique moveset and playstyle comes out
>"muh reps" fags get boiling mad
epic

That's my point though. I think people who don't genuinely like something but cling onto it because other people hate it is retarded.

barbaracle is based off of one of the most repulsive and unsettling creatures on earth

Here's the best newcomer

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sorry user but I have to follow rules

oh definitely

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incineroar is cringe furfag shit

>2,349 votes
>"majority of smash players"
you might be genuinely retarded

so this is the smash fanbase

Apparently so.

I don't get how people can hate based Rath more than Corrin.

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cope. based roar is popular with the general public.
gay furfags are actually among his biggest haters because they're jealous of the porn he gets over their favorites. i wish i was making that up, but it's the truth.

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>gay furfags are actually among his biggest haters
How's life in Bizarro World?

>the only reason people try and warm up to him is solely because other people dislike him

user not everyone is a shitposter on Yea Forums, plenty of people genuinely like him. I was sour on him at first but then I played him and actually liked his moveset and how he looked in motion.

>what is a representative sample?

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you know what's even sadder? said reps fag apparently would settle for having garbage movesets, like I remember AWfags would "settle for Sami inheriting Snake's moves"

user gay furfags are the audience of lucario, etc. They hate Incineroar in particular because he has a defined look and attitude.

You don't even know what that term means lmao

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>They hate Incineroar in particular
Explain

see

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that's not a furfag

again furfags unironically use owo and shit

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>based roar
This term sounds stupid and you all should be ashamed
THIS POST WAS MADE BY REGISTEEL

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>that's not a furfag
lol

>wants to fuck Incineroar
>not a furfag

>i'm a retard who doesn't know differences

I bet you think chinks, gooks and japanese are the same

>explain the false flag i just posted!

wants to fuck a muscular cat = furfag

good luck with your meme

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Just because he's a dark type doesn't make him a villain, faggot. He's a retarded character that hated him, warmed up to at firstwhen revealed, than realized how fucking retarded he was and hating him again. His sausage fingers are ugly. His fur patterns are ugly. And most of all, FUCK his color patterns.

>buzzwole
>good

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no that's a barafag

yeah a furry barafag

Why are millenials so afraid of anthro characters when everyone else has a blast with them? Are they just deflecting their own degeneracy? Why can't they stop thinking about sex?

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no, just barafag

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This is so cute. I'm picking Scorbunny.

hey wait a minute i know that gay porn artist

you should, he makes the best art

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>can't seethe him out of smash
>can't seethe him out of pokemon
>can't seethe him out of their heads (rent free)
will based roar's haters ever stop losing?

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his voice is insufferable

Yea Forums is not the entire gaming community.

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he's my least favorite of the alola trio and i would have loved one of the other two to be playable instead, i don't like his design very much, and his voice is dumb
but i will give him props for being the second pokemon to not look like plastic

He has to deal with the fact that no one likes him and his pretend-fans only like him because people hate him, that's a pretty nice punishment considering what Pokemon want the most is affection.

People want good or at the very least well liked characters for smash, it's not that hard to figure out ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Most people don't care. They know they exist but they don't have any problem picking characters like Wolf anyway. Just because Yea Forums blows up at them doesn't mean everyone does.

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>Gamefags and Leddit literally had to go into full damage control and delete hate threads
Kek, nice "fans" you have there.

He's slow and pretty damn ugly. Worthless Pokemon inclusion.

>machamp

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>heel wrestler
>literally feeds off playing the villain
oh dear, looks like that didn't work out the way you wanted it to did it

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ugly

I don't listen to anecdotal evidence. Prove it.

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I hated him at first, but his character grew on me. He's prob in my top 5 favorite characters in smash.

they wouldn't know that, the beauty of fighting games is discovering you actually like this new blood

>He has to deal with the fact that no one likes him
not true, see incineroar is like sony and trump. he stays winning and the haters stay seething.

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>gamefags and leddit hate him
is that supposed to make us like him less? you really didn't think this through.

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>sony and trump
Aren't they both fucking up. One with censoring while the other with not keeping his promise.

>Marx
>needed in smash
No, dark matter is needed in smash

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I was stupid enough to get my hopes up for the Grinch leak, and so I was crushed by the final Smash Direct. I like Ken, but I knew it was over when I saw him, and especially when I saw those glowing eyes in the dark. I already disliked Inciniroar anyway because he looks like a fursuit. I can't articulate why, I once saw a post on Yea Forums that described it really well in a way I can't. I'd be interested to see anyone give it a go now. But anyway, I do appreciate the novelty that he is a heel and actually pissed off loads of people in real life, that can't be overlooked. A lot of effort was put into his animations, his poses when he lands a move or his frustrating when he msises, which gives him a lot of personality. In the end I started to like him instead, and now I like Inciniroar, if only because of Smash. I still don't like him in random battles in Showdown because he's weaker than he looks and dies to Earthquake, Scald, Close Combat, fucking everything widespread that matters. But he's all right now to me as a character, I don't mind him in Smash. There's always a new Pokémon rep, and as Ultimate is bringing everyone back, there's going to be a lot of Pokémon he's being put on top of as the new rep. Can't blame him for that.

He's cuter than you are.

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>12 place
>popular
>not even in the top 10
Decidueye was placed 15, I suppose you think that’s popular too?

Why do hardly any characters in this game have end lag? It seems like every other fucking character has little to zero end lag. Very frustrating to play against my roommate as he only mains wolf and fox

But Smash is a fan service game, fans want their favourite to get in and that's part of the reason Incineroar hasn't been as well received as they probably hoped

Out of like 100 choices? Yeah.

dark matter would be cool, but i prefer marx personally.

I always forget he was a starter, he looks like some random Stantler tier Pokédex filler.

this was before smash, and i don't see decidueye anywhere in that poll. cope.

you do realize most of the "fan favorites" in smash came from smash itself right

How fucking ugly would they have to be for your picture to be “cuter” than the 2 anons you responded to?

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People just hate pokemon, same reason they hate fortnite, a lot of kids and it's extremely popular. I actually enjoy pokemon games.

I doubt you're even half this buff and fluffy.

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>off-model fanart
>still ugly

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And? I wasn’t saying I was cuter

Decidueye placed two spots below Barashit user.

>Rowlett peaked in elementary school

Imagine having such shit taste that you hate Buzzwole

I bet you hated all the ultra beasts and your favorite 'mon is Vaporeon

Nor should you.

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Why is the Smash community like this?

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What?

defend this, Yea Forums

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>Smash community constantly preached about needing more villains
Whatever
>and heavies
No, I wanted the existing heavies to not suck, and be compensated for their hitbox sizes
>and less swords
Definitely

I wanted a spooky character. We don't have one of those. Bayo and Ridley are tangential.

Incineroar has a dumb visual design. He is functionally terrible, with bad base stats and most of the weaknesses epidemic to heavies, with killpower being one of his only strengths. Most of his kit is comprised of moves similar to those on other characters. He's an anthropomorphic humanoid, which Smash has tons of, from a series with literally hundreds of cooler characters who aren't that.

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yes and?

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It wasn't really that difficult of a sentence bud.

It was like 80 counting Alolan Pokemon and its not black and white user, there js a gray area in which Incineroar sits and that’s the “not hated spot”. Any Pokemon within the top 10 are actually popular, which is why its called the Top 10.

Why do they care so much about N64 era platformer mascots and indie platformer mascots?

The poll had 113 Pokemon because it included UBs AND Alolan forms of Kanto Pokemon.

It's a good thing I think both are trash

it's because of pic related.
they grew up with just an n64 and platformers were all they had.

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Oh, I get it now.

This is why Sakurai should have waited longer. He got lucky with Greninja. He should have waited to add a popular Alolan Pokemon.

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Stealthrock either needs to be reworked to be much weaker, or to be made much more exclusive in who gets to use it, preferably a bunch of shitty rock Pokémon to give them purpose.

>Comparing Incineroar to Banjo as furbait

Surely this is bait

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Fig. B. : Silly bear and bird

Fig. A. : I am expected to think this is cool

Fair is punishable. Nair is the bigger problem. Why does it extend downward by double the height of his foot?

His little black ears are cuter than your entire being.

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Genuine question, what does Incineroar do that's supposed to say "heel"?

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>delaying a game because of a Pokemon

>pokemon who are way worse, but most people can agree these are awful pokemon.

>Machamp

opinion discarded

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>Good Ub's
Xurkitree
Nihilego
Celesteela
Guzzlord
Poipole line
>Mediocre Ubs
Stakataka
Kartana
>Bad Ub's
Buzzwole
Pheramosa
Blacephalon

I like most of the Ubs and my favorite mon is slowbro

His whiteness is better than all of incineroar

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It's an informed attribute, just like Macgargo supposedly being hotter than the sun.

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you mean three, also that's still old and outdated

I'm sorry your dog earth bender didn't make it in

Yeah, I do really believe that some characters like Fox and Falcon wouldn't be as popular as they are without Smash but the roster was smaller then and they are popular now so nothing wrong with them getting grandfathered in plus they add some stylistic diversity to the roster.

I'm glad he didn't and went for a character he actually likes.

>still old and outdated
It is literally the only numbers available. So old or not unless you have a more recent poll it’s literally all there is to go on.

>went for a character he actually likes.
user, he literally added Incineroar just to fill an archetype. He admitted this.

Incineroar is a ugly looking Pokemon, is my problem with him 100%.

Why didn't he add a character from Pro Wrestling on NES then? We could have had Star Man or the Amazon instead.

He has gloats and taunts after every attack

How

Icineroar looks like shit, He’s shit in the TCG, and people who constantly spam COPE or SEETHING OWLKEK when people say anything bad about incineroar. That’s what I don’t like about him

He should have just added Zangief instead of Ken.

They're jealous.

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COPE SEETHING OWLKEK

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they still do

they're as furbait as the fanbase sees them, please don't tell me you think Inicneroar is furbait

stop twisting the words user, he likes incineroar for that

user, sakurai is a wrestling fan himself and that's why he wanted a wrestler. you'd know this if you've ever played a kirby game.
because based roar is actually interesting and has fans, whereas nobody has ever seriously asked for a generic nes pro wrestling character.

Because he's ugly

>you'd know this if you've ever played a kirby game.
>MUH SUPLEX
>MUH THROW
I suppose he’s also a fan of ice since both Ice and Freeze are separate abilities.

>user, sakurai is a wrestling fan himself and that's why he wanted a wrestler.
Well I guess Travis is all but confirmed now.

I’m gonna be 100% honest. Incineroar might have a absolute garbage design, but the thing that makes me the angriest about his inclusion isn’t just the fact that he debunked some of the most hype ACTUAL characters, but because he is LITERALLY DESIGNED to only appeal to beaners and niggers. It’s honestly disgusting how much they blatantly appealed to two of the most cucked demographics (only beaten by Muslims). Ever notice how in tourneys, Incineroar players are ALWAYS WITHOUT A DOUBT a blue gummer? You literally can’t make this shit up.

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We hate him because we wanted characters like Banjo, Isaac and Geno, we have asked for them over a decade and Sakurai still hasn't delivered.

Of course people will be angry when a shitty shillmon got added instead of fan favorites.

I guess sakurai has a boner for spark, shock, and beam sort of

Imagine being such a pleb that you hate Mega Man Robot Master Gattai Mecha Barnacle

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>Incineroar
>Villain
Uh...

Kind of funny how his concept is a wrestling heel and he ends up being disliked in real life like an actual heel. pottery

>he thinks it's just those

how sad

there's a dfiference between a character fully developed as a wrestler than a guy who just does them in some of his moves

>stop twisting the words user, he likes incineroar for that
>I thought it would be more fun if the character revolved entirely around the wrestler concept.

sakurai's own words:
>I grew up in All Japan Pro-Wrestling and New Japan Pro-Wrestling’s heyday, when they were still being broadcast on Golden.
nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-on-smash-bros-ultimate-why-decidueye-wasnt-chosen-piranha-plant-character-changes-online-much-more/3/
read it and weep, rosterfag.

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Name some more then.

My man, I thought I was the only one on this earth who hates Machamp and Buzzwole.

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Your first problem was giving a shit what the "Smash community" thinks

People who like Smash but aren't faggots were happy to get a new character that's decently unique.

>hype ACTUAL characters
>Duck Hunt echo, Sonic echo, 5 second background doodle from some forgotten rhythm game, literal who side character from one mario game like 20 years, yellow haired roy and then some obscure NES character that is only known at all because of a melee remix
I'm sure glad Sakurai doesn't pander to you

imagine removing the context of that line, especially when he and decidueye were the last characters

don't worry seal-kun, you can still flaunt those poll results if you still insist

fuck off spic

literally bugsy and his brother and all of Kirby's original moves in smash 64, hell that ring fight with ddd and mask ddd

I grew up watching wrestling too dumbass, one of my favorites was Stone Cold Steve Austin. That doesn’t mean I’m a fan now. Saying you grew up watching something means fuck all for the present.

God imagine having taste this bad. Did your sandcastle get kicked over by a /fit/lad or something?

>we've reached a point where people deny Sakurai's fondness for wrestling and putting it into incineroar

>as he panders to the Fire Emblem audience

>hell that ring fight with ddd and mask ddd
What is a boxing ring. He also has Knuckle Joe. Just because a few eemies exist in the game that have a certain ability doesn’t mean he’s a fan of that thing.

user the concept of a masked fighter is a (Japanese) wrestling trope

everyone's just being a fag and picking apart the pokemon you listed and not your actual argument
everything else you said is true and I agree 100%, fuck inshiteroar and fuck shillmon.
but what the fuck is wrong with machamp

Pic related would have been a better inclusion than incineroar

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based fursuit man

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Hmmm notice how the only thing rosterfags can say is that "he's ugly" or "he's dumb" and can never explain how? So much for having standards

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he cute

smash needs more furbait characters

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Masked Dedede didn’t appear until Super Star Ultra, which wasn’t designed by Sakurai.

Everyone and their mom has explained it a million times. Just because your pea sized brain cannot process it doesn't mean it hasn't been said already.

Repeating the same claim over and over with no elaboration doesn't make it right over time sweetie pie. Time for you to explain yourself

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I'd kill for Jubei in Smash.

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based
suggest more im actually have ties with the smash team
i wanna make Yea Forums seethe

based taste

Everyone has elaborated countless of times before, yet you're here begging to be spoonfed. Newsflash, the world doesn't revolve around you, dear.

>suggest more im actually have ties with the smash team

Are you baiting me for something?

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probably
I think Jubei might make it in the future

Then provide me with some proof then sweet cheeks because this thread shows the contrary

I'm fine with him but I think I can understand partly why people don't like him cause his design's really offputting. He looks like a guy wearing a fursuit, and he moves and acts really awkwardly.
I've never played whatever pokemon game he's from though.

>Swollen fingers with fingernails that look like splinters sticking out of them
>Idiotic clown hair
>General lack of an inspired design having a “ripped t shirt” and fire belt as the only wrestling indicators
>Said ripped t shirt design is only indicated by two idiotic looking tufts of hair protruding from his shoulders
>Tip of his tail looks like it was partly skinned
>ANOTHER BIPEDAL FIRE POKEMON
>Literally looks like a cereal mascot

>ANOTHER BIPEDAL FIRE POKEMON
Oh, so you're one of those retards.

Incineroar is the next in a long line of ugly humanoids starting with Blaziken

>He STILL begs to be spoonfed
I suggest you to grow up and try again, honey buns.

>ignores everything else he said

Maybe by Smash 8 or something.

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>ANOTHER BIPEDAL FIRE POKEMON
literally not an issue for anyone who isn't autistic.

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>focusing on one issue
>said issue is actually a legitimate problem with fire starters.

user, fire starters have 0 body type variety while both water and Grass do.

Why argue with a retard who complains about bipedal Pokemon?

>Swollen fingers with fingernails that look like splinters sticking out of them
He's a grabber, of course hes going to have big hands dumb dumb
>Idiotic clown hair
Not only does he not have clown hair but he doesn't even have hair, only fur
>General lack of an inspired design having a “ripped t shirt” and fire belt as the only wrestling indicators
Does he need to have "i'm a wrestler" written on his chest as well to be enough for you?
>Tip of his tail looks like it was partly skinned
And?
>ANOTHER BIPEDAL FIRE POKEMON
oh god a pokemon that stands upright how could they do such a thing
>Literally looks like a cereal mascot
Great, cereal mascots tend to be pretty damn iconic and memorable. Try again next time little timmy

Big hands aren't the same as sausage fingers, dumb dumb.

A Pokemon being bipedal isn't an issue at all. Nobody cares about your feral fetish.

>HATERS ONLY EVER SAY HE’S UGLY, KEK THEY CAN NEVER ELABORATE!
>lists reasons
>R-RETARD, ONLY FAGGOTS COMPLAIN ABOUT BIPEDAL FIRE STARTERS
>what about everything else?
>W-WE DON’T ARGUE WITH RETARDS!!!
This is the average Inshiteroarfag

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and yet you autists still whined when samurott turned out to be quadruped. there's no pleasing you.

What I read from this:
>instead of rebuttaling what he said as he provided genuine reasons, I latch onto a boogie man and don’t try to respond to his criticism

big yikes
formulate a better argument next time and don't expose yourself as a massive retard

Which is they its always something everyone brings up when new starters are revealed right?

People complained because it didn’t match the design retard. He literally uses two swords yet is a quadruped. That shit makes no sense.

And? Big fingers means easy to grasp, you should know this with how hard you're trying to grasp to find justification for bashing Basedroar
>Yea Forums is one person
Sigh see

>everyone
nobody cares about this shit
only a couple of retards are really bothered by it

He is not the most despised.

You proved his point

desu i feel bad for owlfags
but i do like blazing tiger wrestler a lot more than grass ghost owl archer.

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You won't find a more sensitive group than starterfags

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>He's a grabber, of course hes going to have big hands
Not what I complined about

>Not only does he not have clown hair but he doesn't even have hair, only fur
He literally has Bozo the clown hair

>Does he need to have "i'm a wrestler" written on his chest as well to be enough for you?
A fire cape or some shit would help. Actually bring home that supposed tiger mask inspiration?

>And?
It looks like shit

>oh god a pokemon that stands upright how could they do such a thing
Literally every other fire starter is bipedal. Even fucking Typhlosion.

Nah. Just add another FE character and watch Yea Forums burn

Why do you people argue about the same shit? None of you will agree with each other, so what’s the point?

Smashfags, honestly. Especially rosterfags.

>smash community continues to ban content instead of getting good

i'm tired of this meme

4 months later and this image is still relevant.

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>fursuit wrestler who isn't even a fighting type
He's pretty dumb desu

Oh sure Yea Forums would burn, but if any character has a fanbase that will rabidly defend them it's starterfags, bottom-line
t. Browses /vp/ and can't bring myself to leave

Yes. Add another FE character

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pretty based image

Damn he's cute

>fight Incineroar in quickplay or an arena
>know its going to be a very easy win

Based table tiger inflating my MMR

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Is this a stealth bara thread now?

Well yeah the defending part is true cause I know no one would defend another FE character.

what do smashfags hate more: incineroar, or personal hygiene?

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but how is he a villain in the game?

Most people place K. Rool below Incineroar on the tier lists.

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>Not what I complined about
Fine you "complined" about the fingers on his hands, which are big making it easier for him to grab people. Try again sweety
>He literally has Bozo the clown hair
Again incorrect, facts don't care about your feelings
>A fire cape or some shit would help. Actually bring home that supposed tiger mask inspiration?
He already is a tiger retard
>It looks like shit
Again just saying something is dumb doesn't go anywhere
>Literally every other fire starter is bipedal. Even fucking Typhlosion.
So? You aren't really helping your case on behalf of anti-incinchads sweetie

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Most people don't know shit, I never lose to incineroar

Compfags hate personal hygiene and rosterfags hate Incineroar.

Pros do it too. I bet I could beat you.

too slow
literally
even if he wanted to get into smash, it would take him 5 years just to reach the envelope to get into smash
dumb grandpa robot

I feel bad for K Rool mains. Hopefully Sakurai buffs the worst heavy. And hopefully Sakurai buffs Ridley too.

>implying that rosterfags don't smell equally as bad as compfags

>he thinks tier lists matter outside of heavy tournament play

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you're right desu
smash fags hate showering the most

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Just ridin my bike, ridin my bike

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>Try again sweety
You’re acting stupid right?

>Again incorrect, facts don't care about your feelings
You be telling yourself that

>He already is a tiger retard
In a sea of bipedal animals, which makes the whole tiger thing completely a lot less relatable to him.

>Again just saying something is dumb doesn't go anywhere
It looks hideous. I don’t know what I need to say to get across how bad a skinned tail looks.

>You aren't really helping your case on behalf of anti-incinchads sweetie
All your doing is showing that Incineroarfags will attempt to ignore any and all criticism of their favorite Pokemon regardless of how obtuse they look.

Annnnnnnnnd that settles it. Anti-Incinechads finally decide to debate me and then get dismantled in a matter of seconds, though this isn't a new occurrence by far for grinchies

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>literal who
>Incineroar not being a literal who

based

>starter pokemon in a $90 billion franchise
>"literal who"
choose one.

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>All your doing is showing that Incineroarfags will attempt to ignore any and all criticism of their favorite Pokemon
Honestly, they most likely don't give two hoots about Incineroar. They're just saltfags that pretend to like Incineroar for "LE EPIC BUTTHURT! HUEHUEHUE TAKE THAT GRINCHIE! BASED BARACAT IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT!" They can't just like him in peace, they always have to use it as an autistic weapon to provoke people.
Cringe.

Most tier lists are matchup-based. So K-Rool could beat Incineroar (though I doubt it) but Incineroar is considered to lose less matchups overall than K-Rool.

cringe

>N-noooo! I want to have the last word! S-stop, this isn't fair!
Big yikes from me, dude.

Lol

Do Incineroarfags avatarfag the most out of any character?

cope

>Jynx
>Awful
Don't talk shit about my Smoochy-poo.

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He looks like an ugly cereal box mascot. Nobody wants to play as him, even pokemon fans hate him and think he's one of the worst starters.
I don't see what you're confused about.

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this guy has sex

>even pokemon fans hate him
Did you get your opinion from /vp/?

>grrrrr, why can't these mean incinechads just shut up and let us shit on their favorite character without any rebuttal!
C O P E

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Why the fuck would I ever browse /vp/? That place thinks the OR/AS remakes are shit and praise gen 4 and 5 like they're the best things in the world.

>chads
>smashfags
lel

My nigga

Cringe and bluepilled

Imagine being so insecure that you have to call yourself a Chad at every instance in order to validate yourself. I suggest you to stop, lest I start feeling genuine pity for you.

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Literally Meganium tier.

>Why the fuck would I ever browse /vp/? That place thinks terrible remakes are shit and praise the best generations.

This reminds me, do plantfags even exist anymore, or were they solely LE EBIN BTFO-types that disappeared after a month?

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No one would shit on him if it wasn't so easy.

Your post is so gay muslims are trying to throw it off a rooftop.

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I used to not care about Incineroar but I have to admit Sakurai nailed it. I would have preferred to have an Ultra Beast to give them more representation.

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Definitely just saltfag bandwagonners.

t. virgin

even meganium is more memorable, relevant and iconic than your reddit puppet will ever be. cope.

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No one really shits on plantfags nearly as hard.

>1 of 801 pokemon
>B-but muh starters!
>1 of 85 starters/starter evolutions
>not even the "face" of its own generation
Literal who

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Come to think of it, Smash has ZERO (0) playable bugs. Buzzwole not only would have represented a very notorious aspect from gen 7, but it would have also filled the niche of a playable insect for the first time in Smash.
>No one mentioned Geno
>B-B-BUT GENO!
Why are you letting the man live rent free in your head for so long? It's honestly very unhealthy.

>Calling a starter a literally who
What did he mean by this?

>You’re acting stupid right?
So you have nothing left to say on that front and are resulting to personal attacks, looks like I win
>You be telling yourself that
Nuh uh isn't an argument
>In a sea of bipedal animals, which makes the whole tiger thing completely a lot less relatable to him
Oh my I didn't know other pokemon standing on two legs makes Incineroar less of a tiger, do you even hear yourself right now?
>It looks hideous. I don’t know what I need to say to get across how bad a skinned tail looks.
You do because just saying "dude trust me" isn't a compelling argument
>All your doing is showing that Incineroarfags will attempt to ignore any and all criticism of their favorite Pokemon regardless of how obtuse they look.
Naw honey you're the one trying to weasel out of this debate that I started because you can't handle having to look for reasons to hate basedroar. I know following a hivemind is easy but I really expect better from you bucko
So much for Incinechads being the insecure ones when rosterfags need to cheer lead for emotional support

>Seething so hard you have to attribute a random boogyman to any detractor
pathetic

>I'm going to be a huge faggot in order to spark an argument.
Nice job, now I know you're from /vp/ and you got defensive over it.

Genofags are seething lmao

Nothing can save that yikes-tier design

He's literally "the Heel Pokemon"
>Heel
In professional wrestling, a heel is a wrestler who portrays a villain or a "bad guy" and acts as an antagonist to the faces, who are the heroic protagonist or "good guy" characters.

>being 1 of 85 makes them more "special"
What did he mean by this? I SUPPOSE it would be 1 of 82 since Squirtle, ivysaur and charizard are already in

Why would I be seething if you're helping to keep Geno relevant and popular by bringing him up at every chance you've got? If anything you're doing us and Geno service, and for that I genuinely thank you.

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>mfw Hollow Knight never

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And leagues more iconic then the faggot cat

user. There were only three starters in Sun and Moon.

I think he's fine. The only newcomer I actively think didn't deserve to be in is Corrin.

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>Hating machamp and broswole
Thanks for confirming you are in fact a retard

He's turned out to be my favorite newcomer to play as. I didn't even care about Incineroar either way during Sun/Moon or his Smash announcement. The Wrestling moveset and gloating attitude is too good.

Literally marketing pick deserves to get in more than a Pokemon who would be made irrelevant soon.

user, there are 83 starters minus those already in smash. Greninja had a spot before the cat anyways if you insist on it being "this gen"

Who is the "face" of Gen 7? Lycanroc? Tapo Koko? Electric Lucario? The only popular Gen 7 mons and I mean POPULAR are Ice Vulpix and the ball owl.

Not Incineroar, thats for sure

>Greninja had a spot before the cat anyways if you insist on it being "this gen"
What the fuck are you talking about?

I tried to like him back during Sun and Moon because my boyfriend at the time was a furfag and I tried to get into that to see what the deal was. He broke up with me and my damn Litten ended up being modest, so I was stuck with an Incineroar with reduced attack stat during the whole game. Needless to say, I don't have good experiences with Incineroar.

>Who is the "face" of Gen 7?
it's this face.

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>The amount of salt this character is still bringing
Yep, he's a Heel alright

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A starter is pretty damn close to being the face of a generation.

wario

user, Primarina, Rowlet and Mimikyu are the top 3 most popular.

That's a heel.

based

So
>If they love it, they love it
>If they hate it, it's doing its job
Clever

The furry design is a bit of a shame, but I'm fine looking past it in general. I don't care for any of the starters in SunMoon, I let my friends pick first and was left with Popplio

>smash needed porky and marx

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Closer then the grass type already in a fighting game?
They settled with just greninja instead of making Inceneroar DLC in sm4sh

>Porky, and Marx are what smash needed
lmao retard

>They settled with just greninja instead of making Inceneroar DLC in sm4sh
What the fuck are you talking about? Pokemon Sun and Moon were revealed after the last batch of DLC were announced.

I'd assume it was this thing

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>wolf
holy fuck this, i dont play with many people irl just mostly online but fighting someone who knows how to play him is fucking infuriating like its imposible to punish them wtf

I agree with what you said about villains but how could any man who has had sexual intercourse with a woman hate Machamp or Buzzwole

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The worst part about Incineroar is that in spite of all the shit GF did to push him, Primarina still managed to beat him and Decidueye without any shilling.

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Wolf is the most annoying character in Ult for me after Shulk. Every fucking move he has is quick, strong, and safe to use.

Only Primarinnashitters give enough of a crap about polls to vote in magazines.

GF and TPC were too busy pushing Rowlet, Mimikyu and Lycanroc to push any of the final evolved starters.

I’m talking about the fact that it’s merchandise always sell faster than either other starters.

Ultimate's meta unfortunately revolves around using quick and safe moves in nuetral which is why Wolf's so good.

He has such a great moveset and he's actually secret OP now that his recovery got majorly buffed and his N-air and D-tilt are so good. I would totally play him a lot if he didn't look like a bargain bin, Nu-Sonic minor villain piece of shit. I just can't get over how awful he looks and i'm kinda glad he's not very used in Smash.

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It's because he was last and dashed the hopes of all the Grinchfags

If K.Rool was the last announced newcomer nobody'd be complaining

>GF and TPC were too busy pushing Rowlet, Mimikyu and Lycanroc to push any of the final evolved starter
>Incineroar gets the movie, the anime, TCG and Smash
>Decidueye gets Pokken

yes, which is why it's equally as annoying just watching the Marths and Ike do nothing but shorthop fair spam.

the fallout of the November Direct was pretty fun desu

>pokemon reveal
>Febuary 26th, 2016
>last smash DLC
>February 3rd, 2016

>Instead of flagshipping a new pokemon starter they chose bayonettea
kek

>Closer then the grass type already in a fighting game?
yes, much closer than the unpopular grass type in a fighting game that got outsold by literal cardboard. especially when said grass type is so ugly and unpopular that they took the unprecedented step of having its pre-evo swallow an everstone in the anime so they'd have an excuse to never evolve it.

Incineroar wasn't even revealed until late 2016. And Sakurai knew that Smash was getting a new game in 2015, so he could put in a new Pokemon in the next game. Which is exactly what he did.

The answer is literally Mimikyu and Rowlet. No other Gen VII pokemon made it as big as those 2.

What’s wrong with Porky and Marx?

You're supposed to be indifferent to him. That's how you defeat heels (or any wrestler for that matter). If they don't get your attention and make you feel something, they're not doing their job.

his whole design and personality is based off that of a "heel" wrestler

in wrestling, you have your "babyfaces" who are protagonists, so to speak, and your "heels" who are the antagonists

>unpopular grass type
He's three places behind Incineroar in terms of popularity user.

Holy fuck the butthurt, nice opinions. Doesn't change the fact that a Ghost/grass owl was picked over a LITERAL wrestling cat for a FIGHTING game. Stay blasted
>choosing to not capitalize on a new pokemon generation for a fuckload of time after its release

Incineroar did. No other Gen 8 Pokemon got into Smash except him.

Machamp is awesome though I wish he was in instead

You can't capitalize on a new Pokemon gen if you're going to release all your DLC before the new Pokemon gen gets announced.

Incineroar was a shillmon. He doesn't even have popularity close to either Rowlet or Mimikyu.

>Doesn't change the fact that a Ghost/grass owl was picked over a LITERAL wrestling cat for a FIGHTING game.
literally only because incineroar was getting into smash and game freak hadn't quite given up on the idea of decidueye as their next greninja yet. then pokken got outsold by cardboard and reality sunk in.

>Shillmon
>Doesn't even get as much special treatment as Lycanroc
oof

>literally only because incineroar was getting into smash and game freak hadn't quite given up on the idea of decidueye as their next greninja yet. then pokken got outsold by cardboard and reality sunk in.
This is some strong denial you got going there.

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The best thing about Incineroar being in is that he will always be in.

He will never be taken out. He will be a part of Smash forever.

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I'm gonna say what you faggots always say when people post proof that people dislike Incineroar: What you posted doesn't mean shit. It's not even evidence or anything

Extremely underrated post seeing as this is objectively the right answer.

Yikes! Maybe post proof that people dislike Incineroar instead of twitter or facebook comments next time.

>what are delays/more DLC?
If they wanted to, they could have added him and sucked money through a straw.
If they really wanted to cash in on the next gen, they would have added Decidueye anyways.

>Making more DLC for Smash 4
>When development for Ultimate started around that time

>Got into Smash
>Appeared in the movie
>Got a shit ton of cards

He's literally gonna be dropped next Smash along characters like Chrom and Corrin.

Smash isn't even shilling. Sakurai picked it because he wanted to make a wrestling moveset. Shit, Sakurai even said he was considering Decidueye and that owl got jack shit.

>Maybe post proof that people dislike Incineroar instead of twitter or facebook comments next time.

Posting pics of people disliking Incineroar is exactly that, you retarded catfucker.

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>it takes an entire team to make a character

He's not a villain in the same vain as Bowser or K Rool. The main thing to remember is that all wrestling personalities are for theatre. Incineroar mimics the role of an antagonist (not villain, there is a difference), but is not villainous or a bad guy in any way.

Considering that Sakurai had basically the same team between games, yeah it does.

>Genuinely interesting fighter to discuss with viewpoints of it as an underrated gem or a futile effort.
>Anons who like it are seemingly only interested in showboating the November reactions and asserting that it isn't a shillmon.

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guys what are the weirdest meta / low level troll characters played in high level to suprise people , or other fighting games with similar weird meta chars

was watching something about the duck hunt character, shti was wacky

You wish.

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Try harder next time, bud.

>"Considering sakruai had a skeleton team!"
Right, really got me there m8!

Inkling is the best ultimate newcomer so far (at least until joker comes out)
What's your favorite Inkling color?

I use the purple helmet kid

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Click on the photo for bigger inklings so you can see the inkling skins better o.o

Orange, I like playing as Futaba but ultimately avoid the character for I don’t own either Splatoons and feel that they are plain unfair like Palutena is.

i only play as retard-kun or as i like to call him, sports

>he destroyed owlfags' dreams
He's a goddamn hero then

destroying Lycanrocfag's dreams was honestly better desu

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Just like how Lucario was dropped in Sm4sh?

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Helping out an asylum board full of extra autismos is being heroic?

Wolf hitboxes in this thread
Just giving you something better to complain about

>incineroar is fake
>incineroar will be irrelevant because decidueye will be the next greninja
>incineroar will be fire/fighting
>incineroar is "basically" fire/fighting!
>incineroar will never get into smash
>incineroar will be low tier in smash
>incineroar will get nerfed in smash
>incineroar will get cut from the next smash (YOU ARE HERE)
>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 8
>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 9
>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 10... r-right?

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dumb owlfag

>he thinks people don't jack off to banjo porn

Incineroar is as much furbait as Banjo is.

truth is, the game was rigged from the start

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I've seen Yea Forums make a ton of Kazooie threads filled with furshit. I've seen Yea Forums post lewd Banjo pics too. Yea Forums is degenerate as fuck.

No, just like how Mewtwo was dropped in Brawl.

Except people actually like Mewtwo lol

>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 8
>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 9
>incineroar will be forgotten in gen 10
That sounds like most Pokemon reps

And people like Incineroar desu

who cares lol, when's joker

which caused such an outrage that she was promptly brought back as dlc in the next game. sakurai didn't even wait for "everyone is here" to bring her back. he won't be repeating that mistake again.
it's just comical to see how much effort went into incineroar's animations and still think he's ever getting cut. cope with the fact that you will always see his face on the character screen. you can't seethe him off of it.

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not a single playable pokemon in smash has been forgotten after their original generation. even lucario and greninja are still being blatantly shilled on a regular basis.

>she

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Furries are not "people"

Mewtwo also had popularity on his side. Incineroar doesn't have anything close to that kind of popularity. He is literally just another Pokemon.

>she
>her
woah
woah
shut the fuck up now

Okie dokie. It's impossible to reason with braindead people, but i might as well go tryhard because it's easy as fuck to prove Incineroar was polarizing despite your memetastic attempts to gaslight people into thinking otherwise :^)

twitter.com/Pokemon/status/798973093771284480

Here's your direct link to the reveal post. No cherrypicking, but feel free to screencap the posts that suit you :) Hell why not compare reception to the other 2 starters for the fun of it?

Popplio
twitter.com/Pokemon/status/799335619763671040

Rowlet
twitter.com/Pokemon/status/798623119611039744

Let's check other pokemon communities!

forums.serebii.net/threads/starter-discussion-thread.650616/

Or maybe some post-reveal polls in /vp/ (arguably the worst place to get data from regardless):

strawpoll.me/11682436/r

strawpoll.me/11624574/r

strawpoll.me/11516105/r

archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/29296714/#29296714

strawpoll.me/11432995/r

strawpoll.me/11453535/r

strawpoll.me/11369220/r


(Pic Related) Owlcuck also had more hype for its Pokemon Reveal than Incineroar did for his Smash Reveal

Facebook and Twitter are still there if you wanna check too :o)

Your next post will be "YIKES!" followed by buzzwords and memespeak

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>1 out of 21 fully evolved starters
>1 out of 3 fully evolved starters from the most recent games
>the most recent games in the largest multi media franchise in the entire world
>SM and USUM sold a combined total of around 24 million units
>the entire Golden Sun series sold less than 2 million units
>Super Mario RPG sold just over 2 million units
Stay seething, my friend

Yikes!

I don’t hate Incineroar as much as I used to but you faggots have to be brain dead to think he’s even remotely as popular as any other Pokémon playable in smash currently. Stop comparing him to fucking Mewtwo you brainlets

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Yikes, keep on coping seething Owlkek. All these retards are just made that Inchadiroar is absolutely based.

Does it go into his mouth like play-dough spaghetti?

I pity that Scorbunny is doomed to look like shit.

>Starters NEEDS to be evolved!
>Game sold more when videogames were more widely available
Wow!

Design-wise, I personally find the concept of putting an animal head and fur on an otherwise human body to be pretty gross and unsettling, but I suppose that's just because I'm not a fucking furry. It would be more tolerable if they incorporated other aspects of tigers, but they instead opted for something that caters to only a specific demographic of people.
What really cements his state as a shitty character to me is that his "personality" is completely neutered for the sake of having a good clean wholesome-looking starter that they can use for merchandise. Maybe if he was doing things like hitting people with chairs, elbow dropping them, generally being a dirty cheater, then I would at least see why people like him. But the fact of the matter is that he doesn't in literally any depiction of him anywhere. As is, all this character comes across as is a watered-down, completely insincere, far less funny Wario. I'm like 99% certain his designation as the "Heel Pokemon" was just to deflect any criticism thrown its way.

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I think Incineroar's design is fucking awful, but he's pretty fun to play in SSBU so I don't know

>I personally find the concept of putting an animal head and fur on an otherwise human body to be pretty gross and unsettling,

Good thing you're not a designer.

Holy mother of cringola

cringe

sauce me

you cutfags need to be killed off already. Imagine being pro less content

because he fucking sucks design wise, you know who fills the role you described? King K. Rool, the best newcomer so far

I don't care about Incineroar so why should I want him in the game? Literally nothing of value is gone if he's removed.

imgur.com/a/advHKLu

No ones saying anyone should be cut but the next smash is 100% going to have less characters

Theres many characters I dont care about but I dont want them removed either. Seek medical help

that's pretty cringe thinking desu

cope

>Machamp, The kyurem forms, the genies, buzzwole
You dislike some cool pokemon incarnate genies' samefaggotry is pretty bad though but otherwise you got the right idea.

oh hey maybe you should stop fighting against losers

>i don't like it, therefore it has no value!

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I didn't even want a new Pokemon character at all but MUH SLOT I guess. The idea of another shitty annoying zoner character is pretty damn unappealing to me so I really wouldn't want Decidueye, but Incineroar is also really fucking boring to play as and is basically just free GSP online. Did it HAVE to be a starter if we needed another new Pokemon? It just feels like a no-win situation.

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Keep seething, tasteless faggot

incelroar isn't a villain

Sakurai was pretty blatant that he decided the Ultimate Pokemon solely based on how they would play in Smash. Incineroar is pretty fun, though. They finally managed to make a slow as fuck character that isn't complete dogshit.

I hated the shit out of incineroar until I played him. He’s simply too fun and charismatic to hate now. Anime swords can still fuck off though.

>irrelevant

oh dear oh dear oh dear

What value does he have?

>He still has wojaks saved on his computer.

zero or zero 2 are, not this fucking nobody

I like every new character, the more characters the better

>but Incineroar is also really fucking boring to play as
Well any character is free GSP if you don't know how to play them properly. There is nothing more satisfying then charging up that revenge from B mashers like Young Link and then getting a 90% clothesline on them all within the first few seconds of the match

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Cope faggot cat, know thatyour character was shilled to oblivion and that noone actually liked them

>it's another faggot thinking incineroar is a shill

but no one cares about her presence though, there's also 5ch saying she's bought by plushfuckers

>>Bad Ub's
>Buzzwole
>Blacephalon
fucking yikes....

Owlfags can rot in their grave too

>it's another faggot thinking incineroar is a shill
Not an argument

join them

lmao no, he doesn't even fit the wrestler archetype, but of course you smashfag don't know about it

>Genies
>Barbaracle
>Buzzwole
>awful pokemon

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seething lmao

well duh, your post was a non-argument

Incineroa is just as much of a shillmon as Grenigger is, but the difference is that most people actually liked Grenigger by comparison.

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>Grenigger
Yikes!

>as much shillmon

good lord he continues to insist that. his move appearance is nothing notworthy and is considered even bad showing. the cards don't matter since literally everyone gets cards. you literally talk like someone who doesn't know how to tell if pokemon is shilled.

I posted all the shit Incineroar has gotten. You just saying "B-but nuh-uh" is not an argument.

user, you can't tell em the truth this hard, they probably have family

not an argument

he provides a function that wasn't in smash before, while also being a recognizable and well-liked character with a lot of personality.
if characters have to be cut for the next game, just get rid of all the fire emblem characters. none of them will be missed. problem solved.

>his move appearance is nothing notworthy
He's the rival to Ash's Charizard retard

>the cards don't matter since literally everyone gets cards
Except he has more cards and GX cards than any of the other starters.

>replying to your own post

to which I already disprove, see , forgot even the anime, which he only appeared for four episodes

that's not shilling at all

>you're allowed to dislike any character on the roster except incineroar

>my GSP with Incineroar is so high that I cant get 2v2s anymore

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Say mad, stay sad

He didn't even mention the wrestler archetype, learn to read

no, his "rival" was secondary to the actual evil big bad in the movie

and that doesn't really matter since every other pokemon and starter have more cards, hell he wasn't even in the "dual" cards which pretty much IS the shilling card

>he says this with the assumption that that is the mindset of the posters here

retard

>he doesn't even fit the wrestler archetype
What did he mean by this?

>guy talks about the role he fills

>while also being a recognizable and well-liked character with a lot of personality.
>well-liked character
Why lie on the internet? Incineroar is divisive as fuck. Always has been.

Incineroar is literally just the current gen promotion, he's not even the most popular from his gen.

It sucks but I just went all in and now I'm over 4 mil GSP with him

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Fuck off you dumbass.

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>Villain/Heavy/NoSword ≠ Wrestler

fuck off golden

don't know who the fuck that is
go back to smash boards lmao

I literally have to lose on purpose and keep getting out of Elite to get 2v2s anymore.

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and that proves???

it's always comical to see people pretend that incineroar is anything close to greninja in shilling.
>greninja gets shilled into smash before he even has a name, has a broken hidden ability created specifically for his line, and gets a special snowflake form in the anime as ash's ace
"he's legitimately and organically popular!"
>incineroar gets into smash late in the game only because sakurai is a wrestling fan, gets a common ability that's been around since gen 3, and appears in a couple episodes of the anime
"SHILLMON, MASUDA'S SPECIAL BOY!"
gotta love dumbass smashfags pretending to know anything about pokemon when they're not fans, just to justify their rosterfaggotry.

at least you admit it
based

>his "rival" was secondary to the actual evil big bad in the movie
Not being the central conflict does not change the fact that he was meant to be the rival of one of Ash's most popular Pokemon. He even faced him as Charmeleon and one, setting up their rematch later in the movie. Plus he is owned by the trainer who abandoned Charmander in the first place.

>every other pokemon and starter have more cards
No other SUN AND MOON Pokemon got as much as he did including the TCG shilling.

nice try golden, you had to be there to take the screencap.

>>Starters NEEDS to be evolved!
In over 90% of playthroughs, they will be. They will also be encountered from NPCs who use them
>>Game sold more when videogames were more widely available
Meaningless to the argument. 12x more copies were sold. A much larger audience has been exposed to this character than the ones from the grinch leak

That it's not the same person you fucking mongoloid. You should probably browse this site for more than 45 seconds before posting.

stop trying to samefag so hard, it's cringe

just using someone else's screencap

Step aside fags

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oh so he was going for OP's retarded positioning then, nvm

TCG shilling doesn't stop user, again the doubles card right now which screams pokemon that are shilling doesn't feature him

so what? that doesn't make him important, he's literally just a generic enemy - pokemon movies always do this

Mewtwo is considered more of a villain than Incineroar

>Hat Goomba

Banjo is a gay hiker bear with a puca shell necklace, hiking shorts, and a gay ass haircut.

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Banjo is pretty sexy. Not gonna lie.

literally everyone in this thread is me

This. No Pokémon itself is a villain. Mewtwo was considered one because of the movie, and its role as the de facto final boss of gen 1. No other Pokémon is really "bad" in and of itself.

I do wonder if "SAKURAI HAS BIAS ON HIS OWN KIRBY" fags are bandanna fags

Dark type is called evil type in Japan. I wouldn't trust those darkies.

6 GX cards is most definitly shilling. Hell, that Team Up shit is barely anything because Magikarp and Wailord have a card. Do you think that they are trying to shill those Pokemon?

>he's literally just a generic enemy
No he fucking isn't He's literally owned by one Cross, the main antagonist of the film. The fuck are you talking about?

That's true, but they are basically just animals who use trickery and play dirty. You wouldn't call an antlion evil just because it tricks and traps its prey.
The only villains are the villainous teams.

I actually like how they integrate it with Incineroar. Usually the dark type has that "dindu nothing" backstory, for him it's just all show and not real.

>No argument.
>What are Shimomurafags?

Cross isn't a main antagonist, which is the point.

And no, 6 GX cards isn't shilling when they're fodder and lack any of the "super special awesome" shit usually found in actual shillmon cards. And yeah Magikarp especially.

Magikarp had his own phone game, a ton of merchandise and shit. They are definitely trying to push Magikarp.

>Maybe if he was doing things like hitting people with chairs, elbow dropping them, generally being a dirty cheater, then I would at least see why people like him. But the fact of the matter is that he doesn't in literally any depiction of him anywhere.
This is one of my biggest problems with incineroar and nobody ever mentions it. Thank you.

>Cross isn't a main antagonist, which is the point.
Yes he is, literally the only reason the shit with Marshadow happens is because of Cross.

Put this through your stupid fucking head (probably full of faulty meanings on "furry").

Every. Single. Anthropomorphic. Character. Can. Be. Furbait.

This shouldn't be hard to understand.

>Incineroar gloats after successful attacks and even no-sell attacks in order to get revenge on an opponent
His personality isn't neutered at all. The hell are you talking about? That's exactly what you'd expect a heel to do.

I see where you're coming from, but I hate that. Feels like they're trying to have their cake and eat it too. Would prefer if incineroar was just a tough to manage assholish pokemon, like a less extreme hydreigon.

Imagine having a series as full of wonderful and crazy unique characters like kirby, but you go for the literal goomba that holds a stick. Hat goomba fags are fucking pathetic.

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No, but I wish it were.

Would have been nice if it were.

>The only newcomer I actively think didn't deserve to be in is Corrin.
And Isabelle.

Isabelle is ok. But her atrocious moveset is not. She lacks everything good that Villager has and Villager isn't even that good.

Imagine believing that someone HAS to prefer "MUH CRAZY AND FLASHY" characters over more simplistic ones.

A single meme app does not make for shilling. Not to mention the two don't even coincide with one another like Eevee shilling or any Sun and Moon shilling.

Agreed 100%, but we're already near the bump limit.

I detest that mods now define bara Yea Forumsidya threads offensive. This is why we can't have any fun here.

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What about the amount of merchandise that Magikarp has received?

the mod that keeps deleting that shit while leaving up all other offtopic shit is just in the closet

HUNKIE

>straw man: the argument

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They're generally okay and don't often get deleted as long as the OP isnt a furry character.

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based and redpilled

Stop using this straw man fallacy you fucking idiot. Incineroar is not a villain and people don't hate him because he is a heavy nonsword character. He is just a shit corporate furbait character only there to promote the shitty new pokemon games. Didn't you learn from the last time you got destroyed in that Banjo thread ?

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>complaining about furbait
>posts Banjo
lmao
are you sure you weren't the one getting destroyed?

I want to have sex with Incineroar.

Banjo doesn't even have good porn. How can you even call it furbait when the star of the rule 34 is sexy Grunty?

>Banjo doesn't even have good porn.
you lie

Post it then.

>Being a Grinchy in 2019

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I was getting replies like "based" while he was getting shit left and right. I'm certain he was embarassed about it.

I just don't want anymore anthro starters.

I know it started in Gen 3 but it's only gotten worse since Gen 6.

I can only pray they won't fuck up the Galarmons

That was because it was a Banjo thread, retard. Going against the circlejerk will get people to shit on you. You still seem to be rather upset by it so I assume you got thoroughly trashed.

You sound like a discordfag

He probably got his discord friends to shit on the guy trashing him. How brave of him.

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based

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Just stop with the starters in Smash. They're not interesting to look at, they don't get translated into something that becomes interesting, they're just bad, most Pokémon in Smash are.

absolutely based

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>they're just bad, most Pokémon in Smash are
retard

not based

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>Porky, and Marx
>needed

you rosterfags are fucking retarded

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still pretty based

Incineroar has way better porn.

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Source?

nvm found the source

user is cool today

>nvm found the solution

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here, for any user wondering
e621.net/post/show/1829224