Bloodlines 2 will be GOTY

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

AMEN

No one was talking about this here until you decided to.

They wouldn't be called Jews until God made the convenient with Juden. Even thrn they were called Hebrews.

I hope malkavians arnt dlc

Just give me soundtrack samples already.

>1. Toreador: obvious
>2. Ventrue: obvious
>3. Gangrel :blood and wrecked room from going feral from the beast
>4. Malkavian: looks like hall at an insane asylum
>5. Tremere: obvious
>6. ???: I really cant tell what this room implies, by logic you could say brujah because it is one of the three generic classes but other than that I have no idea

what do you guys think?

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I still pre-ordered it. Wasn't at all what I was expecting or wanting, would have preferred for a game in europe, or some cool city that has every clan and more like Rio de Janeiro to better explore vampire politics(you could even throw some "SJW" shit and it wouldn't be out of place).
Still, good enough for me.

It's not even releasing this year

i think it's going to suck. discuss

thinking back on it, we have all been debating on what clan gets cut out and sadly I think it will be nosferatu

>ventrue, toreador, and brujah are generic shoe ins
>tremere is pretty much guaranteed as well
>gangrel, malks and nossies are up on the butcher block then

its sad that we are probably going to be missing a class in this game but if that is the case the reasons why I think nosferatu ill be unplayable

>blood mist, a gangrel specialty is a confirmed new discipline
>malks are heavily implied to be in due to being handled maturely or something like that
>depending on retcons, nosferatu are probably all in hiding after shrecknet being compromised and antedelluvian being killed in russia
>probably a bitch trying to make good gameplay where they can hide all the time

It would sadden me if everything above is the case and I would rather have nos over malks but as long as I get my gangrel i will be happy.

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I kind of want to pre order it just for the civil war saber skin. going to wait on gameplay and other things to be confirmed and shown first though.

how come I have never seen a meme involving nossies, shrecknet, and Shreck?

>"GET OUTTA MAH SERVER!"

all it needs is to have gangrel playable on release for it to be my dream game

I really hope that is Vandal from the first game so I can have the chance to kill him. I never got my lockpick skill high enough on a character to break in and fuck him up.

I think the Nosferatu are an obvious pick for stealth, plus they are one of the most recognizable clans, both them and Malks are pretty much confirmed.

3 could be gangrel malk or brujah depending on how you look at it. 4 seems more nossie to me. 6 is a wildcard, could be anything including caitiff

do you think protean war form will still be cool? as long as I can be a werebat I am good

>doubt.jpg
>I still pre-ordered it
faggot

VTMB and Shrek are boomer movies
Shrekposting is a zoomer meme, zoomer

I would be really pissed if we lost out on a clan just to be caitiff/clanless. Part of the appeal of the game are the unique clans I dont want to be a "do anything and everything" character.

Warform isn't a thing in the tabletop, and protean has been changed in v5 so idk if warform will be back but one of the protean powers allows something like it

vampirev5bce.obsidianportal.com/wikis/discipline-protean

well if we have the 6 with one being caitiff, we'd be losing two

>gangrel without warform

whats the point even? why would anyone want that? It doesnt have to be called war form but fuck me if I cant turn into a tanky werebat as gangrel

well if you ever kill a werewolf you can drink its blood and assume its shape

alternatively with the earlier discipline you can become a big ass tough looking wolf

that is the worst possible scenario. Would absolutely not buy if that is the case.

It bothers me that games have less and less in them. In the old days sequels have everything from before and more added now they just whittle it down. we shouldnt even be talking about what clans are not going to be axed but which ones would be added. I would be cool with caitiff if they were adding that ontop of everything but now when they are taking fan favorites out to do so.

That is the thing though, I dont want to be a werewolf or direwolf, I want to be a werebat. Its literally the coolest shit.

I’m certain we get some of the other clans in this one

Yeah really sucks. Gangrel is by far my favorite clan and them not being in would be really shit

Yeah fair enough. We'd have to see what they're gonna do if gangrel are even playable

nos are ugly nobody wants to play ugly

It's gonna be Far Cry 5 all over again. Lefties expect it to be FUCK DRUMPF and they gonna seethe when it is more complex than that

Idk they have a charm to them that I like. something about being a blatant vampire monster that can be good hearted as opposed to being just a mean human with super powers.

It worked out so well for Vampyr huh

good hearted doesnt matter good face good body gets the suck

I feel you, I think both the left and right of /pol/ will be dissapointed and it will simply be a vampire game.

>well if you ever kill a werewolf you can drink its blood and assume its shape
No you can't, where are you taking that from

Your SJW brainwashing simulator of raping bloodlines will fail just like andromeda did.

Gamergate should have killed your ideology

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Does Celerity get me out of there fast enough or am I just dead?

>tfw the Tremere haven in Bloodlines is actually a Toreador haven
I was the wrong clan all along

>reminding me it's a paradox game
Fuck you man, those fucking armchair generals better not blow this

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Lasombra or Tzimisce better be playable

Get woke go broke

Didn't the world end in 2004? Did they retcon the whole thing?

yeah they retconned the whole thing

If a hunter has 10 points and youre just some Joe vampire you'd pretty much automatically shit your pants and run or start weeping and curl into the fetal position
Celerity should work to get out unless hes literally Alexander Anderson then youre dog food

If you got a willpower check, yeah. It'd do the job.

Not interested in a tranny vampire game

does anyone have the pictures of that game magazine going into more detail from earlier?

What went so wrong as to a nosferatu database got hacked by NSA?

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someone accidentally embraced a newfag

vampirev5bce.obsidianportal.com/wikis/discipline-protean
at the bottom
you dont get the powers but you get physical stats and shti

They need to add third person again, no idea why they thought it was acceptable to remove it.

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I just want to see gameplay already. Game comes out next year

Same as Cyberpunk 2077. Give me fucking third person view you lazy hacks

im pretty sure they said there will be third person options in context. I originally guessed that it meant for things specifically like gangrel war form.

>Caitiff
>a clan

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Are there world of darkness vampire hunter games? Because that sounds like a lot of fun, as long as you don't have to be a christfag.

Same thing that always goes bad for vamps
They assumed they were invincible and got sloppy

>sjw game
>goty
pick one

You literally have to suck God’s dick

Probably a reddidiot.

if it's even half as good as dark messiah I'm on bored

as in, instead of becoming a clan down the road you stay a thinblood/diablerize a caitiff or wahtever

That's fucking shit though, especially since in the same release they namedropped Deus Ex, which tells my cynicism that 'contextual third person' means making melee a qte like Human Revolution. I better be fucking wrong

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So the third generation of vampires are the ones that made all the clans and are regarded as these big scary elders that will destroy the world if woken up, and Caine is the first and is seen almost as a myth. What about the second generation though? What's the deal with them? Are they just all dead?
Also is Caine himself a vampire, or can he just make vampires? And if he is a vampire is that part of how God cursed him, or is it something separate?

Caitiff doesn't mean you're not a clan, it means your sire wished they'd aborted you and left you out to dry so you have no fucking idea what clan you are or even what a clan is. That doesn't mean that you suddenly don't have the disciplines of your sire's clan.

Second gen formed civilizations but got nigged by the third gen and killed

Caine is a vampire, just a really fucking powerful one due to being the first. He created the first Disciplines, and the weaknesses all vampires share are a result of him being further cursed by the archangels (on top of the original curse God put on him).

As someone who browses GameFAQs and YouTube's Alt-Right clickbait channels looking for Anti-SJW/Alt-Right audiences to debate with, I know about them all too well. These people have always been in our society but seek solace in gaming. Gaming is a fantasy lands that, in their eyes, should be a reflection of everything they've always wanted but can't get out of life. It was made with white men in mind, and now that it's starting to change to better reflect its audience, they feel like they're being attacked. Western gaming is taking steps to diversify their protagonists, diversify their developers, and create female characters that aren't grossly sexualized, and they hate it. So they move on to Eastern gaming while condemning Western gaming for its themes of progress.

What's interesting that I noticed about GameFAQs topics and stuff on Yea Forums, and how they align with the Alt-Right, is that you see this pro-Japan agenda theme frequently. It first takes the form of "Japan makes better games" or "JRPGs are superior." But then, it starts evolving into the fetishization of Eastern women, which is a common theme with the Alt-Right, due to fantasizing the submissive stereotypes of Japanese women. They then start talking about how Japanese gamers hate progressives in America due to censorship, and how their culture is really traditional is what makes it superior. Slowly, but surely, it evolves into a "this is why homogenous societies are better" argument, because the themes fill every checkbox in what interests them. Women, traditionalism, homogeny, white, etc..

I'm not sure what can be done about these people, honestly. To me, they're in the same category as the Alt-Right It's really hard to get into an honest conversation with some of them. Some of them have no intention of ever changing their views, even if they acknowledge they're in the wrong.

What are people scared that it will be political when the first game had this

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>s o y boy is filtered
>incel isn't
Just give these people the "equality" they claim to want already.

No you don't. a guy warded off vampires just because he had True Faith in the power of the Almighty Dollar. Some Sabbat also weaponize True Faith in the practices of their Path.

Is there a reason he no longer creates vampires (I assume he doesn't anyway). Like couldn't he just make a whole heap of second gen vampires who would be insanely powerful and restore vamps to their glory days of ruling the world?

Third Gen is largely feared and hated because they teamed up to form a hit squad and murdered the bro-tier 2nd generation and caused a cataclysm in the process. They also get blamed for thin-bloods because after they chimped out, Caine patched vampirism so the sire would always be more powerful than the childe.

>"based" still hasn't been word filtered to "epic"

youtube.com/watch?v=BnEhruDrBfA
Actual evidence points to the contrary.

Caine fucking hates vampires and they hate him
The curse is seeing all that he's created being massive fuckhead mongoloids and ruining everything for everyone

He's pretty jaded about humans and vampires after

Third person is for sexist and problematic Japanese developers.

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Can someone tell me about blood boil? Why should i invest 5 of thaumaturgy when i can get a one shot with 3 points in domination, does the damage it does vs bosses pay off? Does the blast radius help?

What is the point of God making a super vampire that spawned a shit ton of other vampires ruining the world?

Okay, this is based.

What generation of vampire do thin blood start happening? Or can it occur in any generation?

Caine doesn't care about vamps being kangz, he's busy reeeing at God and doing incomprehensible keikaku

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So Caine would realize he's a shithead and apologize
It hasn't really worked out

It's really fucking bizarre that anyone could post that with a straight face. SJW infused story made by a company that has produced literally nothing but jank. The only thing it has going for it is it's title.

Caine doesn't repeat his mistakes, though he also won't undo the ones he has already made. And making ANY vampires is seen as a mistake in his eyes.
Also, the setting deliberately keeps it vague about what Caine has done since about the time of Jesus. He might be dead. There's really no canon to Caine.

I wouldn't mind all combat being first person but then a third person view optional for when you're just walking around the world. Doesn't seem like it'd be difficult to snap the camera into first person whenever you get into a combat situation. I mean the first game snaps between first and third depending on whether you're using melee or guns/magic.

Can I play as a straight white dude or do I have to play as a black tranny?

half of 14 and all of 15

Still why would God fuck over everyone else? Is God even present in the modern days?

Yeah I meant it as in 'basically you're a "thin blood" but you're strongerer'

Started around 12th-14th Gen, it's known that it's broadly to do with the curse losing potency the further away from Caine you get, but it manifests seemingly at random which is why it causes PANIC.

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>Caine grows a bunch of plants and sacrifices them to God
>God hates them because muh original sin
>Abel just goes around slaughtering animals
>God loves him for it
>Caine decides to give God a really great sacrifice
>God loves Abel, therefor God will love a sacrifice of Abel
>Kill Abel
>God chimps out and curses you for eternity
Sounds like God's the one who needs to apologise

It’s pretty weird to only have first person considering all the different cosmetic items already available in pre-orders and what not

Caine is Adam's son, like, the 4th human on Earth, and the first murderer, If he's redeemable, anyone is. If he's not, Is anyone else really worthy of the spark of life? There's a vested interest in giving him all the time he needs, considering the fate of all mankind relies on him coming to his senses.

You know, you just made it sound like God's a moody teenage girl

youtu.be/coHCMdsARuA

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Its just one off joke, 2 could potentially have an entire section dedicated to how white straight men are evil and vampires totally care about things like gender and pronouns.

Potentially

If a thin blood diablerized a third gen vampire, would the thin blood become a third gen vampire?

Old Testament God was a sperg, his character arc as he grows into his responsibility and learns to love and accept humans as they are to the point that he's willing to sacrifice part of himself to save our souls is partly why the New Testament is kino. Can't wait for the sequel tbqh

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>character written to have a certain viewpoint based on her relation to the universe is the same as a developer publicly stating that the product in and of itself will carry a specific message

*coughs*

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of course it will I mean just look at this quality writing

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Depends on plot
Sometimes they assume that strength of the diablerized, sometimes they just move up a tier or two
A thinblood would almost certainly just be overwhelmed and taken over by an antediluvian if diablerized though

thanks didnt watch

I'm just afraid I won't see bartenders in tight shorts and see lots of sexy cleavage because the developer believes in that objectification bullshit.

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Can thinbloods make other thinbloods?

No

So it's essentially impossible for vampire generations to go past 15?

>A thinblood would almost certainly just be overwhelmed and taken over by an antediluvian if diablerized though
This is interesting. They ever do this on purpose to switch bodies and change identities?

Correct

But does it have an easy mode?

They have the old writers back and learned the hard way from v5 that PC preaching is a really fucking bad idea. I'm more pensive about if it'll have the 'feel' and atmosphere of the first one. Replicating the early 2000s feel is impossible, but the way the story was told and the characters portrayed was essential and made it special

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>no cop career path confirmed
Y u done did this cyberpunk?

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Saulot may have

>In Beckett's Jyhad Diary, note is made of recently sired 16th generation vampires
Yes but super weak and the higher the gen the weaker the powers and connection to cain to the point they are not vampires at all

In the most hypothetical, yes, but that's functionally impossible. Like the thin blood can't have enough stats to actually do it, and even if they did they would lose all their humanity and become a puppet of the antediluvian anyway. Huge waste of time.

If the Bible was so good, why is there no Bible 2, huh?

Are there different power levels for ghouls? Would a ghoul made by a gen 7 vamp be stronger than one made by a gen 10 vamp?

I think it has sort of been done with malkav and lasombra.

malkav let himself be diablerized. however his soul was not consumed and he became the "web" of madness that connects and influences all malkavians. part of the reason why malkavians clan is a broken mirror is that the breaks in the mirror represent this web and the broken mirror itself is already a metaphor for the broken individual. it is very likely that malkav directly influences all malkavians and feeds them their visions and prophecies to further his goals. if it is not on purpose then he certainly does it passively, whether caine can influence this is another bag of worms.

Several of them did, mostly during the Anarch revolt. It's also heavily implied that Tremere spends so much time in torpor because the Salubri Antediluvian is taking him over from within. (And that's a good thing)

Are there even vampire games set in the 19th century?

never understood the god needing to die for humanity part since its literal god, but i just rationalize it by saying god needs to die to undo a perma curse on humanity he/she can't undo unless killed

Uuuuuh, no? Cain was being a little bitch and didn't put his heart and faith in his sacrifices while good boy Abel did. Cain REE'd and killed him. When God asked Cain where Abel was, he sassed and lie to God. God cursed him for being a cunt, but everyone deserves a second chance.

Which clan is that? WoDlet here.

Republicans were objectively evil in 2004

Has trouble selling in China

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Are there firsts for the other supernatural beings? First werewolf, first mage etc?

bible is torah 2: gods redemption for being an asshole.

the qoran is the non canon fan spinoff where jesus was just a prophet and not a saviour.

Vampyr

There are a bunch to list like Gargoyles, Fairies and whatnot. I suggest looking at the trove in the general pasta on /tg/.

God didn't have to die, a perfect sinless man had to die, but man is sinful and can't be perfect, so a half man half god hybrid had to be born so that his willpower stat would be high enough to not sin and then sacrifice himself.

>tfw Toreador with Malk bf

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Gargoyles are vampires though. I wonder if we'll see one in Bloodlines 2

Saulot is the Salubri antediluvian and the only good lad in the third generation besides Malkav, his clan was essentially vampire clerics/paladins with three eyes but 99% of them were killed after being framed by the Tremere after their founder diablerized him to get blood magic.

might as well play skyrim

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Have any of the vampires ever tried to diablerize Caine?

Vampyr is still a better RPG than Skyrim, maybe just as buggy though.
It also has a great social system, Skyrim had great marketing I guess.

You can't harm Caine. Any harm you try to do is avenged sevenfold on yourself. If you tried to Diaberalize the King big dick Vampire he'd just feel like he diaberalized you seven times. Honestly that'd probably feel pretty good.

New testament is Bible 2 though, what you should be asking is why isn't there a Bible 3? Did Valve make the Bible?

Caine is protected by God so no. Even then, they couldn't and wouldn't even try since Caine can just turn any Kindred into dust.

that is stupid. the fact a sinless man was killed should have damned humanity even more especially a demigod

Crazy how disinterested I am in this. Played the ever living fuck out of bloodlines but I feel nothing for this. Doubt I’ll buy it honestly.

He wasn't killed, he sacrificed himself. He just happened to use the court system to do it.

How does true faith work? Wont most priests and religious people in general have it?

>First werewolf
If there is, they don't matter anymore. Garou don't care about generations.
>first mage
A useless concept. Mages aren't even hereditary. Sleepers wake up at random.

>He wasn't killed, he sacrificed himself
i don't know user....being forced to carry a cross and nailled,left to die outside is not sacrifice especially when he said: "they do not know what they do". sounds like a man who was murdered

For the last time, you can harm Caine (if he lets you). The curse mirrors damage x7, it doesn't PREVENT any of it.
So you can kill him in one blow if you somehow hit him really hard and he doesn't block for unfathomable reasons. You will just be killed seven times more if you do.

6 makes me think of a psychiatrist's office which would be a great profession for a malkavian :^)

no way fag

True faith arises due to very strongly held conviction. It manifests into various powers based on the intensity of their conviction. A very faithful, practicing individual might have access to True Faith 1, which grants them the ability to ward off Vampires and certain other supernatural beings with symbols of your faith. These people are about 1 in a million.

An honest to God Saint will have True Faith 5. Those with True Faith 5 can develop additional Miracle powers based on continual intensity of faith. These individuals who can use miracles are 1 in a billion, and they can do some pretty phenomenal things, like driving a Vampire to suicide, Healing all wounds or reviving the dead, possibly even curing a Vampire of their curse entirely.

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Based Gary

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>want to replay 1 with controller for max comfy
>half works
has anyone had success with this

>LGBT and mental illness
>Mission Gender Dogmorphia, where a vampire thinks they're a werewolf
>Either have to convince them whether or not they are
>Mission Smooth Jazz, where you have to sneak into a hospital at night so you can help someone get their penis split open and dilated
>Mission The Nightman Cometh, need to stop a kid from getting molested

can't wait for them to go full sjw

best part is true faith isn't something that is only held by religion but anything you truly believe in yourself. I could hold up a credit card and that could kill a vampire if you believe the power of money can fuck up anything

>sexy cleavage
Did you not watch the trailer? Are you just shitposting? Even Cara Ellison isn't against the sexy parts of VtMB, and she's the closest to an SJW.

So you can basically become a super Jesus? Can the other races and creatures have it? A werewolf or a mage?

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So are all revenants sabbat inbred cannibalistic necrophiliac psycho goblins?

Except no one believes that their money has supernatural properties. People believe that their deities will protect them. Please stop mentioning this every time true faith comes up. It's retarded.

>articles mention the melee in particular was shit in 1
>it was the part I liked the most
I don't get it, being able to smack multiple people at once and send them bouncing off walls was the best

It could be considering nothing is really scheduled for a 2020 release and what is is nothing special.

Anyone can have it, even vampires, but you'd have to ask your storyteller how you want it to interact with Mages. Mage has a lot of rules about how it's supposed to work, and True Faith flies in the face of it. Under Mage's rules it would be something like a demi-awakening that resists consensus by your own force of will, which is kind of insane, but true faith is kind of insane.

clunky, combat defense is aids, and having no poise is a fuck

Generally the supernatural beings have had their foundations shaken up to much, to still believe in the power of a deity. Mages in particular become very pompous about their powers and their knowledge about realities true nature, and almost universally lack faith. iirc one named Werewolf character was known to have enough faith in Gaia to access a low level of True Faith, and one Gargoyle Vampire had extremely high faith in the Christian God, and dedicated himself to guarding some Cathedral or other, but I don't remember exactly

>money has supernatural properties
>best part is true faith isn't something that is only held by religion but anything you truly believe in yourself
user...stop
true faith means having absolute faith ins something thus giving you powers

That was way different than what was shown in the first game. That was just a regular dress. Maybe I'm just paranoid about this game, but it's not my fault. Many western devs are trying to make their female characters look boring to respect women.

Nosferatu: The Wrath of Malachi

>no poise is a fuck
you mean getting staggered? and defense, like damage soak?

>Mages in particular become very pompous about their powers and their knowledge about realities true nature, and almost universally lack faith
That'd certainly apply to, say, the Technocracy or the Order of Hermes, but I see no reason why a Celestial Chorus adherent couldn't be hella faithful.

Exactly. No one believes in money. Money is a thing. It's not something you put trust in or that you believe will protect you. Who on God's green earth would face a fucking Werewolf and have their first thought be "Oh I'll reach into my wallet and scare him off with this 20! Help me Ayn Rand!

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>not using bribe
>not using pilfer
>not using steal

Maybe if you believe you are about to be mugged by a hairy nigger

I thought werewolves were neutral to humans?

Depends on the human

There are assholes in every group, first of all. It's World of Darkness, not World of Friendship.
Second, Garou have little tolerance for trespassers.

>Who on God's green earth would face a fucking Werewolf and have their first thought be "Oh I'll reach into my wallet and scare him off with this 20! Help me Ayn Rand
someone with true faith. Money is also something that makes the world go around and around and around. only a neet doesn't see it as something powerful and anything can be used as true faith even my cock if i truly believe in the cock bitchslap hard enough.

True Faith does not equal religion. Its something that you truly believe in

If you're a capitalistic asshat tearing up some patch of the environment for dosh you're a prime target for Werewolf rage.

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they did what the nazis did to the jews to humans user. They literally enslaved humans in the old days

>begin reading about mummies, spirits, demons and fairies on the wiki
>suddenly completely lost
Just how much shit is going on in the world of darkness?

So what's so bad about the 5th edition? Is it just SJW stuff, or did they make other changes?

>(Mage with 5 points of Arete laughing in the distance)

I'm not worried about Cara, I'm worried about the dykes and balding bearded women at Paradox.

No one believes that their money has power over supernatural, and that's a fundamental key in having your faith have an effect on the supernatural. It's the belief that a being or force greater than yourself is imbuing you with power and protecting you. That's why True Faith is almost always incarnated as faith in a deity. Belief in the concept of capitalism, communism, doesn't work because those concepts deny the divine and supernatural. No one believes dosh scares off vampires.

playing a gangrel on tabletop must be rough, when games start do people just skip over the 'few years of being alone' thing?

If you want the primo mindfuck shit, check out Changeling and Wraith.

A True Faither can literally counterspell any magic, ya git. 10 dots is "no magic in my presence ever" tier.

Yes, utilizing an incredible array of different skills, not just Faith. Guns, knowledge, arcane rituals, all sorts of things. My favorite group in the RPG is a group of bikers who get tattoos from a fallen angel, and the tattoos give them very grunge themed powers, like a tat of a gun gives infinite ammo for that gun.

based

Nosfies ante wasnt killed in russia. That was "just" a matusaleah

Every time I try to dance in this game everybody just stops and stares at me like I'm a retard

Couldn't someone have a belief that money can buy anything though, even the goodwill of supernatural entities? You wouldn't believe that money is some poison you can throw at vampires to kill them, but that if you offered a vampire cash they'd just leave you alone or even work for you.

About to play Oceanside. Just spare me the details and give me a rundown on why Changling is fucked up.

I cant wait for an epic store exclusive

yeah I understood demons but dont know what the fuck is going on with mummies. Like do they look dead and why do they hate vamps?

I just want my Stealth Nos Pervert to be able to spy on everyone, that's all.

Don't jinx it faggot, they already took Phoenix Point from me.

Technocratic fuckery because fuck Reality Deviands

they could but user would rather believe in his deluded belief than reality. Hey that's his true faith so props to anonboi for being scared his next Pnp will have a vampire hunter killing someone with EBT and obama care

No one believes that. You're being retarded. No one who has a lion charging at them stops to take out their checkbook thinking maybe
>if you offered a lion cash they'd just leave you alone or even work for you.
Because anyone who lives that life has seen firsthand that princes need to be negotiated, and that's not gonna help when a Vampire or Werewolf just wants you dead.

Mummies sound cool but it also sounds like they're forgotten and haven't done anything lorewise and mostly don't exist beyond their tabletop.

Baby girl!

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>Why do they hate vamps
This town ain't big enough for 2 undeads.

The world is fallen, like fundamentally broken at the core because of what Adam did. Jesus redeems mankind and world buy being sacrificed to the world without succumbing to it.

>"My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place."

Man is saved, and creation is redeemed, when it is oriented toward heaven and not upon itself. Jesus takes all the sin of the world upon himself, he is then sacrificed absolving the world of that sin, and finally rises again to demonstrate the subordination of the world to heaven.

what I meant was that babba yagga who is the progenitor of the nosferatu that we see was killed by one of those nikitu dudes. the way it works is that the original nosferatu and 6 or so childer. One of them ran away because he was full of shit and that one became babba yagga and all nossies you see are her granchilder or childer. The original nosferatu being pissed at her sent his other childe to hunt her and her progeny down and that is why nosferatu are constantly paranoid about gehena and hiding. I dont even think the original nosferatu is ugly, just all of his childer and grandchilder.

But what about Chinese notVampires?

>we see was killed by one of those nikitu dudes
she was killed by Vasilisa.

>Adam
Eve

>fairies are obscenely powerful in their own domains but their morality is completely alien
>get off on kidnapping people and twisting their minds and forms until they become Something Else, a changeling
>sometimes the unlucky fucks escape, sometimes they don't
>the ones that do have to deal with the fact that a Fetch(a shitty magical double that looks like them) has taken over their old life and they can never go back
>congrats you're a magic hobo now and will never not be the lowest rung on the ladder
>feel free to sit by while you can only watch other people get kidnapped and suffer your fate
>alternatively suck fairy dick for token positions of prominence
Changelings... Have hard lives.

lilith if we go old testament, the crown if we are talking about the first women in WOD lore.
cain killing able cause murder to be a thing and cause the war in heaven to be really bloody. all adam and eve did were gain true free will from eating the fruit.

Does Lilith exist in WoD lore? iirc in the bible she's the mother of all monsters. Is it similar in WoD?

Anyone got the pic of how to get Masquerade to run? Any guide to patch the GoG version? Also any tips for a beginner?

Why not just kill the fetch?

They start dancing after a few seconds

I don't know about GoG but for the Steam version it's just:
>Download the game on Steam
>Download the unofficial patch
>Launch the game through the unofficial patch exe rather than Steam
That's what I've been doing for the past week and it's worked fine. Maybe try the same with the GoG version?

>lilith if we go old testament
The concept of Lilith as Adam's first wife never occurred until the Alphabet on Ben Sirah in 700 CE.

>family just living a normal life
>suddenly some fuck who vaguely looks like your family member but different in some pretty fucking significant ways crashes in
>tries to murder your brother/son/whatever and starts shouting about how he's the real one

A lot, but supernaturals rarely meet and their spheres of influence/domains rarely intersect at the best of times, and WoD isn't set in the best of times. Everyone is too busy trying to keep a low profile and deal with their immediate problems discreetly without setting up a cultural exchange program. This is not to mention that Mages, Changlings, Wraiths and even to an extent Werewolves don't always operate strictly within the earthly realm unlike, say a Vampire who are probably the most earthbound of all supernaturals in WoD.

Yes, she teaches Caine the ability to create the Disciplines before he goes on to rule the First City and pass on his Vampirism.

As for your other question, you're thinking of Echidna from Greek Mythology.

Think the Seattle mummy will appear in this game?

She's a dick, yes. But she was a dick because some dick dicked her up and left her, namely Caine.

Do we know for sure that Second Inquisition is a Technocracy initiative? All their tech looks pretty mundane run of the mill alphabet agency stuff.

I mean, the Syndicate and N.W.O. just spilled the beans to the NSA and the sleepers did the rest. Thats how the TU usually works t.b.h.

GoG comes with the patch anyway.

The original nosfes ugly as fuck because Caine gave him a tiny littl scar and he chimped out, desfiguring himself and ruining his relationship with the toreador ante in the process

it's the first medical infomercial
>you may have ORIGINAL SIN and not even know it!

So in v5 can vampires still have True Faith or nada? Would a regular 21st century faggot even have one?

Some Antes were friends?
Is there at any point where a vampire isn't thinking about backstabbing another?

is free gog pc games legit? i dont wanna pay for bloodlines one

V5 says it's a thing of mortals, but while it says someone with True Faith 4 can never become a ghoul, it does not say that one cannot become a vampire, and it does not specifically deny the trait to vampires (but only talks about it in terms of mortals having it).
>Would a regular 21st century faggot even have one?
Nobody "regular" in any century has True Faith. It's a spectacular ability for truly unique individuals.

Yeah. Torie and Nosfe were a couple. Ennoia and Ravnos got along pretty well also until the gypsy scammed her or something

When do you think is more likely that we'll actually get some gameplay footage? E3 or PDXCon?

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Shouldn't Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 be called Vampire: The Requiem?

It's set in oWoD. No.

also anyone with a link or something?

I meant that, in the age of fedoras, how would a player justify that- fuck, I just answered my own question. It feels like one of those topics you could argue with your fellow players for hours and come up with something.

I want to plant my seed in ennoias earth

>It feels like one of those topics you could argue with your fellow players for hours and come up with something.
That's for Mage: the Ascension.

Didn't the old setting become the new setting?

Your phrasing is uncertain. The long and short of it is that Vampire: the Requiem and all the "new world of darkness" stuff has officially been stripped of the World of Darkness title, and is now formally Chronicles of Darkness. The return to form with the newest edition calls itself World of Darkness, and returns to continue the metaplot of the "old" World of Darkness (now just WoD).

>That's for Mage: the Ascension.
Without devolving into a shitshow that might turn literal, I might add. I've seen the /tg/ threads, I don't want that.

>Be gypsy
>Scam
Every time.

No, Paradox essentially said "We're doing the old mechanics again because the 20th anniversary editions sold really well".

Wait, those shows on TLC and Discovery are legit? Every time someone mentions gypsies here or irl they just keep saying the same thing.

So basically Chronicles was like a failed reboot of the series, and they've just gone back to continuing the original World story?

Precisely.

What are the recommended mods for bloodlines?

True faith is about being unwavering and extremely fanatical in a belief, whether it is a deity or not does not matter.

It didn't fail. It's still around, Last I heard there was a new game in development in the CoD system. Deviant: the Renegade.

>why would God fuck over everyone else
Read the Bible.

gypsies are probably the only demographic I believe the sterotype of

Toraedor or Tremere? I only wanna play Tremere if blood boil is good since blowing up people sounds fun

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People don't have fanatical and unwavering belief in the face of the supernatural unless it's a deity.

Dont say it too loud tho some old gypse woman will hear and curse you

I heard that one of the gypsy's curses is eternal life. I'd risk that, but then again one of the curses is to lose your dick.

I liked that one user's interpretation. His example was a jew. Jews love money and all that shit, but very rarely does a jew have so much faith in cash that his cash burns motherfuckers, because it's hard to have unwavering belief in something so mundane. A one in a million jew.

They also got a blood steal too

>talking shit about prey
neck yourself my man

They have gone on record that no clan added post-release will be paid DLC.

pcworld.com/article/3378197/15-years-later-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-is-finally-happening.html
>Right off the bat, I’m told additional clans will come post-release, and that those will be free for all players while story-driven content (for instance) could be paid DLC.

rockpapershotgun.com/2019/03/22/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-preview/
> I don’t know how much DLC there will be, but I do know that some clans will be added to the game after launch, and that these will be free to all players.

pcgamer.com/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-preview/
>"The one thing we can say, we will have a good amount of clans in the main game that are really interesting, but we'll support it with more clans after launch," said Christian Schlütter, lead producer at Paradox. "And one thing that you need to write down is that every clan that we release later on will be free. We will never charge you for any clan." I wrote that down.

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Which is pretty good from what I've heard since you get shitload of blood from from it but investing so much for a gimmick suicide has my doubts

I'll just weaponize ironic attachment as I apply my clown makeup and honk on them

It's too slick and clean. Where are the grungy details? Where's the rust and the cracks in the streets and the night sky?

>Blocks your path with no pre-order dlc, no gender pronouns, 3+ more years of development, actual gameplay footage, beloved studio that hasn't been forced to rebrand multiple times to hide their past lineup or awful games

shall i go on?

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Why do you expect everything potentially available in the game to be represented with a single screenshot or even a few of them?

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It has to come out to win GOTY.

Should I install the plus patch and plus patch extras? This will be my third playthrough and I'm too retarded to find out what they change.

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>the sun exists

It's Seattle, not Detroit. The place actually looks pretty nice.

Blood Boil is amazing.

>It's ready when it's ready approach vs
>ITS READY AT THIS SET DATE DESPITE US NOT HAVING ANY GAMEPLAY TO SHOW YOU PRE-ORDER NOW approach

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wrong

youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw&t

E3 will have some gameplay my dood

>Reading up about V5 on the wiki
>Federal agencies in multiple countries have realized that vampires exist and the power they have over global finance and politics.
So who fucked up and broke the masquerade that badly?

*ahem*

FUCK NINES AND FUCK THE SABBAT

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I am sure you say the exact same thing about Starcraft: Ghost

*explodes*

Could be the guy who blew up a Chinese temple and corporate tower in LA

Seattle isn't a shining citadel, but it's also not a decaying husk of rust and rot. It's not complicated.

2077 didn't reveal any gameplay when it was announced either, both its original announcement and after its GTA5 trailer at E3. We didn't get to see how it'd actually play till months later.

There should be an optional route where you can go full Blade Vampire Hunter. It'll lock off all vampire missions for good, and you spend the rest of the game raiding literally every Vampire stonghold slaughtering the fuck out of all of them

Unironically releasing in 2019
>CDPR said they want to do what Bethesda did with Fallout 4 (showcase it at E3 and then announce it's releasing a few months later)
>recently said that this coming E3 is going to be the biggest E3 CDPR has ever had

>guy
That's a funny way of spelling cute malkavian schoolgirl

>hurrr i bet you say the exact same thing about this confirmed to be cancelled derivative spin-off boomer game that nobody really wanted

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The malkavian was confused about xir identity

My autism wants them to hold off until 2020 just for the pottery

Difference is, 2077 was announced in 2018 and has no pre orders/release dates. Not like VTMB 2 that was announced, had pre order bonuses already and then confirmed for Q1 2020

NSA hacked the Nosferatu's darkweb which had an incredible amount of masquerade violations. Things degraded from there.

>2077 was announced in 2018
user, I...

uhh actaully it was a 7.5/10 gangrel qt

Will /ourgirl/ appear? Also lone wolf ending is canon fuck you

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I was thinking this, either way they do it, it's releasing soon. They already confirmed it's coming before 2021, so either it's kino 2020 (homage to the 2020 tabletop) or it's 2019 which makes a lot of sense too

I mean shown, even then, that further backs up my point. It got announced 10000 years ago with no release date in sight even now. Not comparable to VTMB

2nd best girl

Who the fuck are we kidding. It's gonna be generic bland modern Deux Ex tier trash. Whats the fucking point of having hope?

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Gonna play the first one for the first time after many false starts, any tips for the most enjoyable playthrough possible?

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The trailer actually worried me, it had no artstyle at all. It looked so fucking bland and boring with a generic voice over. The gameplay demo impressions have also sounded "meh"

Not if it releases in the same year as CP2077. No way an inexperienced studio like HS Labs can materialize an interesting and soulful FPS-RPG out of thin air, no matter which writers they hired it just can't be done. I have good hopes for the game, even if partnering with EGS was the mother of all red flags, but GOTY is setting your expectations unrealistically high. Even VTMB was a flawed gem and there's simply no way they'll top that or even get close, I'm sorry to say.

Choose Brujah and invest in guns and melee

Mods
Mods are my hope and my purpose
>imagine these puppies getting some well deserved air

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>check google
>it's real
>mfw

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Welcome to the party fren

Bloodlines worked because it was set in the 00's LA aka a goth's fucking wetdream paradise.
Shitty low class businesses with not a sound but the fluorescent light's humming, grungy alleyways filled with mental homeless people and cheap whores, shitty dive bars, and a 00's interpretation of gangsta street urchin culture.
The modern era of political circlejerking and social media bullshit isn't right for this kind of game at all

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Not an argument, go dilate your wound.

this guy again, is Ventrue fun? They apparently have they ability to make people kill themselves, playing a Vampire Lelouch seems cool
tried to play the game a couple times before and dropped it every time since I was a dumb kid at the time and hated the combat, couldn't appreciate anything else about the game. Does it get better with high skills in those?

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You damn right it will be gay of the century.

I'm with you 100% but its not an mmo and for that I'm willing to give it a chance

Vampires are gay. Also the game will be written by women and designed by retards.
The golden age of gaming will not return with AAA titles but instead it will be born of indie games.
Reject this shitty cashgrab, and embrace the indie revolution and the return to innocence.

pic unrelated

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It gets more tolerable. The appeal of the combat is mostly that you can send bitches ragdolling across the room with a punch. It mainly makes guns actually aim and your melee do more damage. Also don't hesitate to bite human foes. It's an insta kill and recovers a shit ton of health

I'm scared of how they'll handle Malkavian this time.
I'm afraid it's either eyerolling fishmalk humor with whedon-tier cringe quips or they want to be 'respectful' to crazy people and it'll be even more cringe.

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>this guy again, is Ventrue fun? They apparently have they ability to make people kill themselves, playing a Vampire Lelouch seems cool
Uhh they're alright

>VTMB2 is only 25 hours long
Boo. Where my 100 hour vamp rpg?

It's sad to see someone say this, but it's true. AAA publishers are making devs copy indy shit like battle royale, and it's hilarious.

ALSO TIP FOR MELEE

You actually have directional inputs. Pressing S+attack will to a lunge move, and left right and forward all have different attacks. you also have an air attack. Jumping is also good as a dodge and don't forget you have a block button

Yep, absolutely. Enjoy the wait.

They'll spout Joker quotes and internet memes. You'll go to a drumpf rally only to discover that every member is a malk

What I enjoyed most about Ventrue was turning on Fortitude and Presence at the same time and becoming functionally immortal during combat. Man that was good. If I recall correctly, none of the other clans in the game get that combination of Disciplines.

For comparison how long is the first game on average?

about 40 hours

Fuck

Is this confirmed?

What the fuck are you talking about? I got like 15 max on my first run, less subsequently. I swear no one here has actually played Bloodlines.

wtf did you rush the entire game or some shit?

They're becoming as uninspired and preachy as the movie industry. The obscene wealth funneled into a single AAA game could be dispersed over a metric fuckton of indie titles that weren't afraid to experiment or cater to their exact niche audience.
Imagine a return to a simpler time, with games focused only on enjoyment rather than DLC advertisement and politics.
Imagine the return of officially supported SDK's for public release.

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Between 15 and 30 hours depending on how much sidequests you do and how lost you get, I'd say.

bait

Oh ok so pretty close that's good

"What is Prime 5?"

>'m not sure what can be done about these people

Make games that pander to their power/sexual fantasies. You literally mention what they want. They want to be sedated and they are telling you how they want it to happen.

>15 fucking hours on first playthrough
What the fuck? Lmao

god shut the fuck up go whine in some other thread

Something that doesn't beat Countermagic, ya double git. True Faith explicitly behaves exactly like Countermagic.

My main concern is that it will look too slick and shiny and have no soul, like asian shovelware MMOs.
I am also struggling to get my head around how they are boasting about there being so much more content and dialogue this time around while also having such a short playtime.

According to
That's not too outlandish.
Maybe
Didn't get lost and reads quickly enough to skip the VA for most dialogues?

No. AAA games are shit, and you're eating it up like a good little scat slave. Reject DRM, reject microtransactions, and reject the industry that employ those despicable things.
Also go fuck yourself faggot i post where i want.

This post is formatted like shit, but thank you.

At TF you got 5 dices of Countermagick. Thats literally the same that the Prime Countermeasure that the Techies got mate. It's not that big of a deal.

u should roleplay eating a shotgun
that would be the real GOTT

Primium*

I got 40 hours too. Waited through all dialogue and stuff

is this really going to be good? not some weird authoritarian sjw type gibberish
i recently replayed vtmb and anarchs the cannon good guys were lot more libertarian then i remembered side from that one commie chick
so i really dont know what the fuck they mean by adjust to current day politic

Please stop posting

>gameplay
If I had seen gameplay from the first Bloodlines I would have dropped it instantly before even trying.

who knows, could just be shit they're saying to get lefties to buy it. I'm sure there'll be a decent amount of sjw shit in it but not as much as the doomsayers are saying. Better to wait until we get more on the story/gameplay

It will have forced politics(the kind that try and drawn from real world events instead of ingame) and already has various pronoun support.
Its already shown an overweight chick in the trailer. Its looking pretty shit so far OP

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Literally an inside job.

Alpha Protocol discovered a backdoor in their database. NSA got scraps

no

It's dots to level, so TF 10 is 10. That's actually very solid.

>the only REAL god is the god of MEAT

Japanese VO > English VO imo

its suicide that also acts as an explosion, against humans you can clear a whole room with one cast if they're clustered together

They yiffed humanity way back then. Nowadays they allahu akbar them.

In my manual it only goes up to 5

well according tothose big ol werewolf cutouts they had for target practice at the hunter enclave humans are not neutral to them.

also who started the fire at the werewolf part?

werewolves gay

I hope they will bring back based Christof and cute Anezka as NPCs.

>who started the fire
It was always burning since the worlds been turning
jack most likely

YIFF AND TEAR
YIFF AND TEAR YOUR HUMAN GUTS

True Faith goes up to 10, but only "one in a billion" [sic] go beyond 5. Most likely, nobody alive has True Faith 10, they might appear once every few hundred years at best. For people taking things as claimed (rather than demonstrated, not going for a debate here), Mother Teresa might have been a True Faith 10. For the extra cynical, Jesus might have been a True Faith 10.

Christof probably locked his waifu up in a tower somewhere while he tries to do his shit that Ecaterina tells him to do. Can't let anybody harm my impure nun Czech waifu

that asshole gargoyle is rank 9 i think

Do you think there'll be vampires carriers of aids this time around
And instead if infecting homeless people they're infecting gays and secretly working for the cia

He is pretty based tho

is there a trick to killing the gargoyle in the chinese theater?

first playthrough i did a charismatic toreador so i didnt have to fight him. now I am doing gangrel protean and although I can tank anything like its nothing this fucker kills me in like three hits with all my buffs on too. tried having him smash all of the pillars and didnt do anything

Do you have a sledgehammer?

no

Prepare your blood as lube.

Well you need one

yeah still an asshole tho

But if were comparing TF to arete, an archamge with arete 10 can roll 10 dices at any given effect (11 with a familiar) at a lower difficult that the TF countermagick; as lower a dif. 3 with quintessence against dif 7 of the TF countermagick, and erase it from existance if and when the roll has more succeses. And archamage are not as rare as you said the True Faithers 10 are.

shouldn't claws affect him as much as anything else considering it IS a vampire and thus aggravated etc

Doesnt he die at the end of the church scenario in gehenna because god says his a fundamentalist fag?

probably
he literally thinks hes an angel

I'm hoping the maps are interesting enough that you can have fun just wandering around and that'll increase the hours a bit

My great grand-dad was gypsy, am I safe ?

gypsies tend to dick each other over

I know that but for that reason they could have grown a natural resistance to curses.

unfortunately, an old fart cursed your people to never get resistance to curses

>Born in Australia
>For years thought gypsies no longer existed and were a product of the past like medieval knights running around in plate armour
>mfw find out they still exist in modern time and perfectly fit the stereotype of what you think when you think of a gypsy

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can;t wait

His ghostly caravan keeps setting up in my backyard tell him to stop plz

First person melee is the best shit ever.

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Oh shit, I hope it's diluted in the rest of my blood.
Would be the caravan of his parents, he got abandoned as a child.

>no sound
>hear 500 miles anyway
fuck

it barely does anything. full protean, with three points in fortitude and bloodbuff and he hits like a wrecking ball still. normally i can take on anything without losing half my health with just protean

BUT I WOULD WALK FIVE HUNDRED MILES
AND I WOULD WALK FIVE HUNDRED MORE

Archbishop Frolo leading the glorious second inquisition unto the heathens and monsters of San Francisco when

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That's weird. I don't think I've ever fought him with melee outside of my brujah playthrough but I don't remember him chunking that hard

Are they as hot as Esmerelda?

Some are cuties but some are dogs and both will steal from you fyi

We already have a goty tough, don't we OP?

I fucking love Changeling.

Don't use Protean retard your regular punches will do more. Walk up and punch twice, then back off while he swings, then move in and punch again, then back off. Remember you can only land the first 2 hits. Rinse repeat til he dies and you'll never get hit.

the only good brujah are the true brujah, but we probably won't be able to play as one.

I'm kind of disappointed VTMB2 is only 15 hours long. I was hoping for a much longer experience.

>an archamge with arete 10
Literally can only exist in the Horizon Realms without exploding from Paradox in a nanosecond.

All this talk about true faith makes me think of a character with True Faith in the power of buckshot for removing filthy deadites.

He would probably kill the shit out id everything the sabat could grow at him

>Jews are bloodsucking monsters
>Not for /pol/

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Iirc, Christof keeps Anezka by his side 24/7 like a crazy lover boy.

Fuck off /pol/

can you even rape a gypsy without getting cursed by a wise woman/eaten by a vampire?

Sure be her dad
Ehuehuehue

welp, time to find a caravan

D I A B L E R I E

No, you fuck off. This is our board. Yea Forums is and forever will be a /pol/ affiliate you pozzed little nigger faggot.

>removing third person in RPGs
Why is this a thing?

Glad to see you're out of your coma.

i hope the second inquisition gets a theme this good
youtube.com/watch?v=0df6EZxtqcQ

You are and will always be a tiny minority.

Now go kill yourself like the rest of the white male population.

Oh hey look it's the tolerant left, everybody wave

this is a malk arguing with himself

kek

therese is lonely

>would have preferred for a game in europe
A game in Paris where you can play as a Nosferatu in the catacombs and the old quarries. Would be great.

Java was a mistake

It's not even going to be good.

Source: I knew Colonial Marines would be shit when everybody was hyping it.

The first time I encountered gypsies was on a college trip to Europe and the professor mentioned how it's unfortunate how they're treated, and the very next sentence was "Hide your money and keep one hand on your backpack strap." Which was funny.

Basically all the stereotypes about them are true barring the curses.

>you'll never be a horny lonely hot female malk that can have a debate with yourself whenever you want

Should I give jeneatte the ornament thing

No. You'll damn the poor girl to have her soul trapped in the hotel forever.

I hope this game is edgy as fuck.

Too late.

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Did Therese make a deal with the ghost or something? RELEASE HER SPIRIT YOU CUNT.

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shes
of two minds

>>gangrel, malks and nossies are up on the butcher block then
>malks on the chopping block
I'm afraid Malks will get the axe since the devs want to portray mental illness the "correct" way and they will do away with them outright.

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dont even meme about it

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Least the gave the Ventrue lady in the green dress big boobs.
That count's for somethin, right?

FISHMALKS ARE SHIT

They'll keep the eroticism of VtMB in the sequel, it's already confirmed.

What's a fishmalk?

I think this game will be really, really bad.
Worse than Vampyr, which was a truly awful game and got billed as "the new Bloodlines".
I mean, I WANT it to be good, but how could it possibly be good in this horrible, wretched time period?

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yes

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Wacky retards like malkMC in vtmb.

No good games exist anymore.

So has it been confirmed that you can join a clan by sucking a vampire dry? Because it seems like a very retarded choice instead of picking a clan from the get go.

>You'll go to a drumpf rally only to discover that every member is a malk
That would be funny actually. Also Malks are famous for being crazy but seeing the truth where everyone else fails.

How do I get that Jim Morrison hair?

Aren't Malks like some kind of hivemind? Like a huge interconnected web of madness and thoughts or something, and sometimes for no reason even unbeknownst to them they're all called to a certain place to do something

Not confirmed, but diablerie is usually the only way to upgrade from a thin-blood to a normal vampire.

Their primary concern is transcending to the spirit realm so they're no longer in danger of being killed on Earth and being sent back to Hell. Several of them have decided that the New Promise Mandarinate was a colossally stupid idea, and that messing around in temporal power games carries no reward.

have sex

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Now that I got into the lore and discovered how much of a shitters vampires actually are I kinda wish we hade a mage game instead.

Fledgling Malk can hotswap between fishmalk and mad oracle though.

See as a concept that would be fucking nice. My malk can suck her way to the single digit generations. But then they said "punching up". And the first thing that went to my mind was beige power. I have the feeling it's gonna be a rags to riches story that will make an sjw cream their pants full of acceptance and tolerance.

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You know, I'm still holding out hope we'll get a Werewolf WoD game one day. Vampires are cucks.

They have internet madness but it doesn't work like exactly that. Normal basic Malkavian will only feel shit maybe 3 times a year. The powerful ones can send messages or make the Call. The Call is heard by all Malkavians around depending on the power of the one making it. It's usually the size of the city. And they all instinctively know where to go and when though they have no idea what's the point of it. The Call can also happen subconsciously when shit happens and they need to work together but it's very rare.
Apparently Malkav uploaded his consciousness in it after he died.

Last time I played Vampire, I made a Malkavian. For several hours of the campaign my character talked and reasoned more or less normally, to a point where people began asking if I was even really a childe of Malkav. The concept I had discussed with our GM was that my Malkavian's brand of insanity came to be expressed by the fact that he was convinced that he was NOT insane despite knowing his own linage, and went to great lengths to prove he wasn't, while at the same time being convinced that it was everyone else who were crazy and in need of supervision.

In doing that, the character was the most level-headed person in the group, though deeply mistrustful of the other players and constantly writing everything down and keeping tabs on them, in case they suddenly began slipping. The voices, of course, gave him great advice when it came to keeping the rest of the group at a short leash. But since he was acutely aware of the voices in his head this only galvanized him in his belief that he was not, in fact, insane. As an insane person certainly wouldn't have the introspection required to gauge their own sanity.

He eventually did end up shooting one of the other party members in the back of the head while said character was driving, but it was absolutely justified. He had gone off the deep end, my character had no option but to stop the situation before it escalated and someone got hurt. The others reacted predictably for people similarly touched by madness, by questioning my motives and calling me crazy and dangerous. Ironic, right? That a group of violently insane person would gang up on the one normal person in their group for merely trying to protect them.

>the Call
Didn't gangrel have something similar?

Idk but it's probably something very different. Also to be able to make the Call yourself you have to be dementia lvl 6 or something and VtMB only allowed you to get to lvl 5.

They're changed a lot, they don't make good music anymore but are still stealing.

V5 has general cobweb stuff as Malk only loresheets.
I think being able to make a Call was 3 or 4 dots

Ok maybe the 6 dots thing was sending a message, not making the Call.

What's the recommended edition to play, the revised one ?

20th anniversary.

Yiff in hell.

It's more like a literal oral network ie jeff the gangrel shows up in your territory to tell you everyones gonna have a big meeting or something

It's out ?

Whatever the fuck you want.
v5 has the best mechanics but v20/revised obviously has more material.
Though that's its own problem depending on your players

So use the v5 system with the v20/revised materials.

It has been out since ~11

>punching up
Are these delusional fucktards even dimly aware that this is not how the world works, nor has it ever worked like that?
Everyone always punches down, because you can't fucking "punch up". The whole idea is that you can only take advantage of those worse off than yourself, and that's what everyone is doing and have been doing since time immemorial.

You don't slap your boss if you want to keep your job, you slap the guy who borrowed money from you and didn't return them. He slaps his bitch-ass wife for spending his money, she slaps her brat kids who won't shut the fuck up.

Nobody is EVER going to "punch up", because the second you do, you're above the people you're punching, thus defeating the entire point.
Fucking leftist retards and their air diarrhea double talk.

Not really. If he cast vulgar magick maybe, but he can cast coincidential magick without a worry as long as he doesnt use the archspheres

What do you mean with materials?
You can't just copy rituals or niche disciplines because the system got redesigned by a lot.
So you'd have to do a lot of houseruling

Archmages literally can't exist on earth.
Same as any mage over ~120

>10 true faith
Is there anyone with that? This dude whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Caiaphas_Smith has made vampires shit their pants so hard that they evacuate every kindred from a city he shows up in and he only has 8 true faith.

>themes of progress
Did you learn that in your Venezuelan Socioeconomic Dancing Degree?

It will be much better than The Outer Worlds for sure. Obsidian can't make games for shit anymore and their biggest selling point (writing) is almost non-existent since all the talent has left (Ziets, Avellone, Gonzalez) or isn't interested in writing anymore (Sawyer). As for Cain and Boyarsky, they didn't make anything meaningful in a long time and they're still stuck in early 2000s. Writing trivia lore for Diablo (Boyarsky) or doing God knows what (Cain) for years made sure that nothing they come up with will live up to the expectations.

I dislike Caiaphas, Sullivan Dane is far superior

Have they at least confirmed that you can play as a corporate?

You're always a mercenary, you can just side with different factions more or less.

Oh so it's not like Cthulhu where you can use everything and just modify a bit.

Thats just not true. From the top of my head, what about Porthos or Dante. Both are Archmages and well above 120 years old and they spend at least as much time on earth than in the Umbra, if not more on earth because of the chantries politics

Pretty much, you can still adapt old stuff but it's more work.
The mechanical changes were pretty massive from completly changing how combat works to implementing a hunger system instead of bloodpool

have sex with a shotgun :^)

Is the new system really worth it ? I don't mind oldschool rules.

>vampire game
>Entire plot is just fuck drumpft

There are groups that still play with e1 rules.
Do whatever the fuck you want but I wouldn't see the point of learning the old system if you're getting into it blind.

Trannies are not women

I've been thinking about this: is it possible to have true faith in luck? Believing that, no matter what situation you're in, luck will save you and believing this so hard it's actually true?
In the werewolf scenario instead of trying to run away you just kick it in the balls and hope for the best and it turns out a piece of a silver dagger or something is stuck in it's fur and you jam it up it's dick.

Ok thanks for answering.

>not hunter
You furfags can go yiff in hell

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Wrong. Canaanites are Adamic

why is everyone so scared that they're cut the malks? I'm playing the thing now their portrayal is not bad. listening to Grout's recordings you couldn't tell he was a Malk until the last few recordings

Are those confirmed to be clan specific havens? Having Toreador and Ventrue seems redundant when they specifically said they want the playable clans to be distinctive. And don't forget there's 5 actual clans and one bonus class, one of those would then have to be for them

I've always used the unofficial patch for playing VtMB but I just discovered that there's another patch, the true patch gold edition.
Does anyone use it ?

God made him immortal and cursed him to be able to only consume blood and be vulnerable to fire as well as sunlight but all the super powers came from Lilith

I think it's more for just bug fixes and bug fixes only
also I believe the dev stopped working on it

Nope, the curses of drinking blood, fear of fire and fear of sunlight are purely on Caine being a manchild

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what about the becoming pale part

>start a gangrel character in Bloodlines
>no haven in a cosy log hut accessible by cab
>no gangrel presence in Los Angeles whatsoever
>no gangrel npc's in the game world
>no gangrel primogen to talk to
>not a single gangrel to fill you in on the basics or your clan
>not even Jack is Gangrel, he's a fucking Brujah
>there ONE fucking gangrel in the entire fucking game and he's an autistic archaeologist who doesn't want to talk to you and disregards you completely with a single line of dialogue acknowledging your shared clan
>you can't even have a god damn beard

Yo, this is fucked up.

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How about you read that image

Still deciding if I dislike playing Bloodlines to the point of where I enjoy just reading lore more than actually playing

I hope they do it respectful as in, its fucking spooky and your tv starts talking to you in the middle of the game randomly

skelter's a gangrel, but you wouldn't really know it up front. Real shame you don't get to be filled in by an older vamp of your clan, esp with gangrel

Becket, dumb shit.

Holy fuck, everyone POINT AND LAUGH at this utter moron and his complete lack of reading comprehension!
What an embarrassing display!