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Who was done the dirtiest in Ultimate?

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You kids waste time on the most useless hobbies these days. Men like me had real hobbies back in the day: Football, beating up spazzes and nerds, going bare-back on cheerleaders, sneaking Playboys everywhere, punching random things in random places. We really knew how to live life. You kids just have no clue these days.

Sephiroth, him & Chrono are the only members of the internet gaming hall of fame that aren't playable in Smash now

The ones who didn't even get a spirit

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Assuming he's not DLC, definitely Geno.
I'd say Banjo but I never liked those games. Even when I was a little kid with shit taste I found them to just be bad slow versions of Mario 64 with more annoying music.

Oh my god! I can't believe they added Bomberman as an assist!! Wow, I'm still mad!! I love bomberman and his games and play them daily!!!

Wow, what about Isaac and Shadow? Dang!! Wow! so dirty!!

Can't wait for the next DLC character reveal. Will it be Dragonquest character? :) Haha, who's after that? DOOM probably!

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Yep

my boy Isaac. I really thought he had a chance.
He was going to have a Felix echo and everything, its just not fair bros :(

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Imagine not being happy that your favorite character is still featured in Smash

> Erdrick
Literal who
> Doomguy
Literal Who faceless Space Marine

>the internet gaming hall of fame
The what now?
Is that some boomer thing?

based boomer

Unironically Waluigi.
>used to demonstrate that Assist Trophies can be killed
>Daisy, a roughly equivalently relevant character, revealed in the same Direct
>Piranha Plant, a generic enemy, makes it in
You don't have to even like Waluigi to acknowledge that Sakurai did him real dirty from start to finish.

Shadow for being deliberately hidden and kept up in the air until the Final Direct. He should've been the next most obvious Echo after Ken got in. ("MUH FAITHFULNESS" fags can stop REEEEing after Dark Samus became a thing, thank you). Considering Sonic still hasn't gotten a single song remix besides the one random Angel Island one from Brawl, I wonder if there's some SEGA autism involved in either.

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Xenoblade series got done the dirtiest for sure. Rex and Pyra didn't make it into the base game or DLC and Xenoblade X got fucking nothing outside of a few spirits.

Isaac and Bomberman, but I personally think that Bomberman is because of Konami, in my eyes there's no way Sakurai didn't propose tons of possible moves for him to Konami given how much he likes his late 80, early 90 characters.

Bomberman has a lot bigger problems than being an assist trophy in Super Smash Bros.

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It's in Waluigi's character to get fucked over, desu

This episode in BNHA is so fucking kino, legit never cried from an anime before.
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> Brawl
You mean I can summon Isaac, Shadow, Waluigi and even Little Mac into battle? THIS IS AWESOME!
> Ultimate
REEEE FUCK YOU HACKURAI! IT WAS THEIR TURN! YOU PUT LITERAL WHO CHARACTERS IN BUT NOT MY PICK? FUCK YOU!

Fuck off Smash autists, if they assist trophies, chances were they were never going to be playable in the first place, at least be happy that they are featured in the game.

Ok, shut the fuck up Boomer. This is a videogame board, the fuck where you expecting?

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I know some people really hate Mii costumes for "deconfirming" a character, especially back in Smash 4 where they were some of the worst characters, but in Ult it feels like a decent way to show love for him. Helps that Swordfighter's great this time around.

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Why do expect assist trophies to be playable? Most of them are just literal whos or characters that aren't important enough to be playable.

There is a reason why Mac was the only one from Brawl to be playable in Smash 4, look who he had to compete with.

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Xenoblade 2 has to be the most cucked as far as release timing VS development goes, considering Sakurai loved it.

This.

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Isaac and Shadow no doubt, Im a filthy Genofag but to be written off in finally direct.. no fan fair just " these are your assist trophies bro" that must have felt absolutely awful

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Shadow. His move set would be identical to Sonics and they already have his model made. The fact he's not in is PEAK laziness.

I played Brawl, 4, and Ultimate with items tons of times and never got Shadow tho

> People seriously thought literal who Isaac would get in
Golden Sun has no future, why would he be in? His franchise is dead and Nips doesn't give a shit about him.

It fucking sucks that Bomberman has to be considered a "Konami" rep now when *if* he had gotten in years ago, he'd be a Hudson rep undoubtedly. But now that he has to be a Konami rep, people don't want him because Konami obviously has their own cache of IPs and would rather a Konami rep be someone that is "purely" Konami. It's so fucking bullshit.

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Since the roster expands every game, it will naturally slowly expand its criteria for who is important enough to make it
Assist Trophies are already important enough to get a major role in the game, so in some sense they're natural candidates to expect. The ones that could reasonably be fighters, at least.

Not the dirtiest, but they didn't even bother updating his moveset that much, no new remixes again, and they are just reusing voice clips from different sonic games

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Daisy was only added because echos are easy and like most games in nintendo with gimmicks they need a standout character that represents the gimmick.
I.E:Each new minor pokemon gimmick(like breeding) applies to all pokemon but they have one specific mon to help represent that(togepi) and to be a mascot for the gimmick and show it off in promo material or to reveal it.

It is a konami property. it even has the same localizers as yugioh now.

Smash isn't a place for literal whos, get back in the glass case

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After Snake would people really care? Konamis got their main dude in

oh boy, here we go again.

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Maybe next game or if they are doing an assist trophy dlc pack which I doubt

Nintendo's fault, they should have stepped in when Hudson's bank collapsed and offered funding instead of allowing a Konami buyout.

I agree he was done the dirtiest. Him being an AT was whatever, but they actually made him look worse than in brawl

on one hand it means they don't have to worry about the grey area involving whether or not spirits deconfirm characters but on the other it also basically means the character is THAT unimportant to the dev team to the point where they cant even get as much as a fucking PNG
it kinda hurts

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op pic related
i felt my heart sink a little when seeing that

>on one hand they're not in the game
>on the other they're not in the game

I think that spirits could be converted to fighter spirits and that then they could be replaced with other characters(make waddle dee become sailor dee in an update.)Have you wondered why alot of fan favorites and most wanted characters are enhancable?This could be why.

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The ones that got demoted from Assist Trophies. There was literally no reason for stuff like Excitebike, Sin and Punishment, Advanced Wars and Custom Robo to get cut. Fucking autists are complaining about muh playable character but some characters who will never even get that became fucking costumes and spirits.

Sakurai seems to consider mii costume a promotion from assist

I doubt it considering the amount of characters they went ahead and added both for. Spring Man and Isaac in particular. Rex in particular was done dirty. They couldn't even give him an Assist Trophy or add his costume to the base game.

It's simple, assist trophies from dead franchises gets replaced with newer or more well known AT's.

Nobody

genofag here, and just saying, the mii outfit coming back would be just fine to me. i fear that it isn't happening and he's just staying a png, though, which is a fucking downgrade. thanks, square_.

of what's in the game? Probably Alucard and Zero in terms of potential. Cloud is pretty fucked and Square denies him from reaching the full potential of his inclusion.
For what's not in the game? Arms and especially Xenoblade 2 were royally fucked by their release windows not being soon enough to quite make Smash.

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Same shit happened with Inkling in Smash 4, did people really expect a Switch character to be in?

Brawl didn’t have DLC or updates, it was that or nothing.
Ultimate does have DLC and updates so they could’ve done it if they wanted to but didn’t.

>did people really expect a Switch character to be in?
Its not impossible
We've had a character get in before the release of the actual game

What was the last game K.Rool or Ridley was in?

WHY THE FUCK DID SAKURAI LOCK THE REX MII ON THE FUCKING FIGHTER PASS REEEEE

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nice try underage

Donkey Kong and Metroid have futures retard, GS is dead forever

I don't get why Mii Fighter costumes were cut. Not even the 3rd party ones. Generic ones that could be used on a bunch of things. Like the mage outfit.

Let's not be too greedy here, our literal who was actually revived in her own series and was made fully playable

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>caring about Miis
LMAO

Samus Returns came out in 2017

>He was going to have a Felix echo and everything
lmao

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Bomberman wasn't because of Konami. It's stupid to assume that. Simon was always going to have preferential treatment over all other 3rd parties due to placing really high on the ballot. And since Sakurai also said that he wanted to include a new Konami character, Bomberman never stood a chance against Castlevania.

SEETHING

So it's exactly with what I said earlier in the thread, it's because Bomberman has to be seen as a Konami rep now when he wouldn't have been years ago.

Fuck off trannyfags

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I felt for sure she was going to be in

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It's not like Bomberman had a chance if Hudson Soft was still alive. It was going to have to go down to the ballot and people love Castlevania even if Konami doesn't. I just hope Konami doesn't fuck things up but that might be too high of an expectation.

Why?

>Proving he wasn't around for Japan Time

So much was going for her Pre-August. Everyone expected her to get in to advertise Warioware Gold.

> Wanting a shill character
Fuck off

>Anyone who doesn't like Isaac is a tranny
Nah. The truth is that people who thought Isaac had a chance were retarded.

Never forget.
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>Everyone expected her to get in to advertise Warioware Gold.
Contrary to what you retards might think, characters aren't added to advertise games. Sakurai just favors more recent games when it comes to character inclusions.

did the fuck that made this ever come out or will it be a mystery forever

All available evidence points to mariotehplumber doing it. If you don't know, it's the guy who bought a ton of Rosalina amiibo because he hates her and her fans.

>tranny calling other people retarded
No room to talk sissyfag

yikes i thought somebody who didn't have a literal autistic hate boner for nintendo did it

>Isaac was the cause of the Nintendo Direct getting delayed!
>The new item is definitely from Golden Sun because it looks like a spell icon!
>The Rathalos screenshot is a reference to Golden Sun even though lots of different RPGs use the same perspective!
Isaacfags are definitely retarded. Even more retarded than Skullkidfags and their chair conspiracies.

>literal autistic hate boner for nintendo
>username is mariotehplumber

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whoever made the grinch leak sure is a sneaky son of a bitch. tought me a lesson that anyone can make fake leaks

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You didn't think the person who made the Grinch leak would hate Nintendo? That shit was perfectly crafted to crush the hopes and dreams of Smash Brosfags.

As far as evidence goes, MTP kept suspiciously featuring Smash Ganondorf in all his videos leading up to the Grinch leak. MTP also kept saying that a big leak would get released 45 days before Ultimate released. Granted, the mural leak was posted 44 days before Ultimate's release but that shit can't simply be a coincidence. I heard from Yea Forums that he's Canadian and speaks French but I'm not too sure if that information is accurate. The fact that Yea Forums was pulling out all this information convinced me that the Grinch leak was bullshit.

Reminder that he was the first one who made a review for the game a whole month before it came out, he clearly has connections.

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Yea no shit we already learned the amount of effort people are willing to put into leaks with that Rayman shit with Sm4sh but somehow you rosterfags gutted that out of your memory

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you should've been taught that a LONG fucking time ago, dipshit

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>relegated to a Pac-Man taunt

Hopefully he's DLC now that Akira is an assist.

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>PapaGeno
The worst part is that Banjo retards still fall for this guy

It's hilarious to me how Yea Forums kept shitting on insiders but then praised this retard when he said he had insider information. It's a real shame that this guy ruined his reputation like that since he doesn't seem like a bad guy.

>used to demonstrate that Assist Trophies can be killed
Using a FE character, no less. What did Sakurai mean by that?

>Is there a way to reset GSP?

im pretty sure theres not but just want to check

They should have just shown him off at E3 instead of right until launch

i didn't give a huge shit about the grinch thing, but that was a good point

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Is he getting a pachinko machine or something?

Everytime anyone tried to bring it up Grinchies would just screech about hot heads and start rambling on about how it was ERSB 2.0

I love these kinds of videos, the music choice is what makes them so good.

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fuck you grinch leak now I want him

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>grey area
why wouldn't a spirit character deconfirm that character as playable?

Konami cross media NY is not 4kids by name or body. However it retains its spirit. And now they are in charge of "brand management" for those videogame franchises in addition to yugioh..

There are no spirits from 64 AT ALL, which is really weird.

shut up you fucking boomer

>Chorus kids have been in a dead leak for two games in a row

That's rough.

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I wish the Mii's had more customization options. They would work pretty well as full blown custom characters, but there's so little you can do with them