Draw in the total warhammer thread!

FUCK YEAH CLAN SKRYRE IN THE HOUSE TO CLEAN HOUSE.

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Where the fuck is the brontosaurus unit? How can they make dinosaurs and not have such an iconic unit?!

I don't think lizardmen ever had one in a list. The one big dino they are missing from their army book is the troglodon, ignoring forge world stuff.

Man I wanted Skryre to start at Skavenblight. Looks like they'll get another jungle campaign..

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Unbelievable that it’s taken them THIS LONG to add these units. Happy to see the skaven getting buffed but it should’ve happened way sooner. Fuck historicalshits for making us wait

Fuck Thanquol. I would rather get Throt with giant rats and stormfiends then a fucking grey seer.

this is the best total war game but it runs so slowly. Takes like a minute or two per turn end

>predator parody
I like it

It didn’t take them this long to add those units, is likely they were done a good time ago, they simply make “strategic” releases

Jungle in Vortex, Skavenblight in Mortal Empires.

This makes sense, but the jungle is fucking packed in the Vortex with these two new additions. Mazdamundi, Skrolk, these two, Vamp Coast and Teclis.

>can stockpile fucking nukes to use even if its just 1 per battle
How will dinofags ever recover?

So what are your hopes for Three Kingdoms?

>thought it's new trailer about summer beastman addon for Vermintide 2
>It's fucking useless shit RTS trailer

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Lustria is gonna be:
>Mazdi
>This dlc's 2 lords
>Skrolk
>Lokhir Fellheart
>Teclis
>Khalida (in vortex)
>Luthor
>Noctilus is near
>Cylostra is near

That it gets released so we can be done with it

That the diplomatic features make it into other games, since I don't really care for the rest of it

Three Chinkdoms is a beta test for Total War Warhammer 3 when Cathay gets released, and to capitalize on the chink market for the meantime.

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It will do worse than Britannia and fuck over CA.

I wonder if Skinks will actually be worth making in some way now. Even with great weapons I don't see any reason to run them over Sarus.

I thought the orbital laser was just a ability Thanquol had, but if it's an actual unit that is really cool.

>no troglodon
im ma.
im happy about rippers, the new bastillodon is neat since they said we werent gonna get it, but im not exactly exctatic about it.

Engine of the gods is meh, it feels like the lizard roster is mostly reskins besides the salamanders.

Nice feel for the trailer tho

ToB also had a bunch of cool shit that should show up in WH3.
I really hope we at least get trees that catch fire and ToBs recruitment system.

okay im going to start a new campaign
what faction and why

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they realy tried too hard in making teeniweenie look like his actual model.
him holding that thin ass plate just looks retarded.

Saurus are slow, skinks are fast and these ones have AP, so they'll probably trade upwards compared to regular Saurus which get annihilated by elite infantry

Fast and AP, probably the hammer for Lizardmen considering Cold One Cav are pretty mediocre in that regards

It's good shit 2bh

Druchii or Kangz, there is absolutely no reason to play anything but Druchii and Kangz.

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Never fucking mind, they have Lord Kroak in holy shit

They confirmed that the flc lord will be a lizzie.

>no Dread Saurian

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REJOICE BRETBOIS, BRETONNIA GOT A REVAMP.

Beyond the brand-new Vows system, Bretonnia have also received a load of other updates which include:

>New Technologies
>A new Trident of Manann weapon for Alberic
>A new confederation dilemma
>All Bretonnian Lords start the game mounted in campaign by default
>FREE PEASANT MOB UPKEEP when not exceeding the Peasant Economy cap
>General Bretonnian garrison improvements
>Increased turn duration for the Green Knight
>Unlimited Green Knight uses when reaching level 5 of the Chivalry bar

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Still misding Razodons too.

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Lord Kroak is a legendary hero confirmed so who is the flc lord then?

Empire
THE NATION CALLS

THIS UNCLOVEN ABOUT TO BE FINNA DABBED ON

Speculations point towards Gor-Rok or Nakai.
Personally I'm hoping for Tetto'eko

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Why can't we get the Vermin lord that was fucking teased when they first revealed the Mortal Empires rites.

Got Vermintide 2 from a friend a few days ago. While it's decent, it's incredibly unfinished and at times broken. Is the first one better?

About goddamn time

Maybe saving it for an End Times DLC

Not really.

Vermin lord really isn't tied to any one faction, hard to make a faction pack featuring them.

GOR-ROK GOR-ROK GOR-ROK!

Nakai would be cool too because then wed have a Lord of every subspecies, or maybe Oyxl, but hes a hero not a lord.
I see your point with Tetto eko, but realy, hes not too different from a Slann.
Funly enaugh, theres no more possible lizard lords with mount options, i guess they could put Tetto Eko on a Terradon or something..

personally, im still hoping for Troglodon at some point, and have Tehenauin get a Troglodon mount option.

How much of an annoyance are these units going to be in multiplayer now that shitters can act like cheesing pubs sniping from across the map.

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>General Bretonnian garrison improvements

Praise ze Lady!

A Vermin lord is literally a great horned rat deamon. It's obviously Skaven in faction what are you talking about? Chaos have demons in their roster, and they're even more likely then a vermin lord to do whatever and should be listed as "not tied to any one faction"

All the AI is going to do is field even more peasant stacks

IKIT YOU SON OF A BITCH

As a skaven faction dude, yes its obliviously skaven, but its not obviously Skyre, or Moulder, or something.
Meanwhile in this Skyre update we get a bunch of Skyre related units.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THANQUOL

They'll probably be used as anti infantry artillery fodder

Friendship ended with Thanquol
Now Ikit Claw is my best friend

His master plan to get his own expansion backfired, killed boneripper and confirmed G&S for 3 before he is.

You'll get Vietnam and you'll like it

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How does the doomsphere work

When did we become the Smash autists of RTS?

Booby trap settlement

Single use battlefield nuke, or you can build one under cities you've infiltrated as skaven to destroy them

Did you miss the whole Malus vs. Lokhir debate?

>Natty Buboe’s Sharpshooters have both the Stalk and the Snipe abilities.

This means you have to basically be on top of them to see them. This means they do not get revealed when firing.

They will literally shit on every faction with artillery.

THANNY ARE YOU OK
SO THANNY ARE YOU OK
ARE YOU OK THANNY

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They're campaign-only.

>While the Under-Empire is a feature newly-available to Skaven factions (see the Doomsayer Update Notes for more details), only Clan Skryre can build the Doomsphere within the Under-Cities they establish. This immense Warpstone bomb is powerful enough to completely destroy any settlement it is constructed below.

Like Hitman 2, I keep putting off buying this game because Warhammer 3 will be a thing and will just be an improved version of this game. It's getting harder to wait though. Is it worth getting now?

Skaven have absolutely shit anti air capabilities, though.
Just get some flying scouts, watch where they're concentrating their ranged and shell the shit out of it.

Thankfully yes

Anything that has flying or fast cav units can counter them so probably not very. Skaven weapon teams have never been very good in multiplayer.

>Ikit Claw
>Jezzails
>Ratling Gunners
>Doomsphere nuke
>Tehenhauin
>Salamanders
>Better Skinks
>Lord Kroak as a hero
>One as of yet unknown Lizard LL
I'm pretty satisfied all things considered. Only thing missing imo is the Troglodon and maybe Wolf rats because I feel Skaven getting 3 units to the Lizard's 6 is kind of unfair.

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Oh, right, the battlefield nuke is the Doomrocket™

Been waiting so long for CA to add this guy.

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>Infiltrate cities
Wait hold on

Red-tinted Skinks and slightly larger Salamanders are barely anything.
Skaven got the more unique shit.

It kinda is but lizardmen were missing much more stuff

That thing the Vampire Coast could do with making pirate coves, the skaven can now to do every settlement now, making the under empire actually a thing

FLC

>The Under-Empire is a new feature coming to all Skaven Legendary Lords on The Prophet & The Warlock release day.

>Following the release of the Vampire Coast faction, we saw a lot of fans calling out for something similar for the Skaven – and we listened! The pirate coves mechanic in Curse of the Vampire Coast laid the foundations for this feature, but it’s much more in-depth and allows all Skaven factions to build a secret base of operations known as an Under-City deep beneath any settlement through conquest or the use of agent actions.

>Once established, a whole host of building options will be available including wealth, resources, and corruption buildings. Under-Cities also support the ability to either summon a verminous army to rise up and attack the settlement above or (if you’re playing as Clan Skyre) to detonate a Doomsphere device which, if not detected, can blow the settlement above to ruins.

>Remaining hidden is key to developing the Under-Empire to its fullest, but with each addition to the tunnels and warrens the risk of being spotted grows ever greater.

>If spotted, Under-Cities can of course be destroyed (a little bit of rat poison goes a long way) by those that rule the settlements above ground. Discovering whether a verminous nest lies beneath a settlement can be achieved through the construction of specific buildings, deploying heroes in close proximity to search for the Ratmen, or for the Skaven to blow their cover by building too much.

>This makes the Under-Empire a truly cat-and-mouse feature, where settlement owners above ground can be blissfully unaware of the activity below until it’s all too late…

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>13 days away

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>total warhammer thread!
stop that

Wasn't expecting doomflayers. Kind of shocked troglodons and wolf rats didn't make the cut but pretty good additions all around.

Holy fucking shit I never thought they would actually do it
It's beautiful

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Hopefully they build on the Kroak part and start making legendary hero mechanics for all factions

Hype

>Additionally, all Lizardmen Legendary Lords will be able to unlock a quest chain to seek out Lord Kroak – the last of the first generation Slann.

>Although technically dead, his spirit remains, and still exerts its power over the living world.

>Once Kroak is found he will join the player’s faction as an immortal hero, boasting a completely unique skill tree and devastating campaign map abilities.

Can't wait.
Skaven Under-Cities sound a lot more involved, but this is still pretty cool.

Is bretonnia update also for TW1?

Someone please tell me how to beat vampire pirates as high elves during the early game.

No, same like with the Dwarf update, for ME only.

True enough. Ratling Gunners and Jezzails were really the only really important stuff missing from the rats.

Eh, I suppose, but I'm still pretty happy about Rippers, Salamanders and Red Skinks. Generally I'm positively surprised at the sheer amount of stuff in this DLC.

Do they say anything about (((rampage)))?

archer spam

Sadly, given a regiment of renown has a lack of it as a feature, it seems to be staying for the moment.
I really hope they rework it at some point.

Can someone supply me a gif of the engine of the gods

>in addition to the doomsphere and the under empire stuff the lizardmen can also fucking summon Sotek himself
Jesus fucking Christ they're going all out

I've literally only been waiting for ratlings and jezzails to play this game proper. Finally i can play this game.

>Free Peasant Mobs
Good lord, even more Peasant Stacks

Giant rats being missing I think is fairly important to Skaven aswell.

They'd work as a good trash cavalry. Skaven have a terrible time running anything down. Their victories as a result don't often lead to army wipes

Okay. Maybe some of you know this. I have Warhammer Total War , the first one. Most of the content except for the two major expansions (wood elves, beastmen I think?) which I can get. Iv'e not played it too much.

I've heard that Warhammer 2 Total War can include all of the races/content from Warhammer 1, right? Does that include all of the story campaigns and whatnot? Other modes? DLC? Such that if you have a full assortment of Warhammer 1 DLC and you buy Warhammer 2, you will never need to play 1 again given that everything in it is unlocked and playable in 2? Or is there stuff "left behind" like storylines for the 1 races and whatnot?

Have they mentioned any changed to Slann to make them worth taking? They are not worth having to use a slot in the capital for. I wish they'd just be given a magic missile basic attack.

That's why I don't want Wolf-Rats.
The weaknesses of each faction should not be "fixed", its one of the reasons I hate Depth Guards, aside from just being made up by CA.

At this point they're either holding off for Throt to add them or just think they would be too good and are intentionally keeping them off the roster.

Also, Lord Kroak as a hero

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The campaigns are not in.
Basically owning WH1 allows you to do a Mortal Empires campaign, which is the whole map from both games but slightly compressed. DLC that adds new lords or races from the first game are still required to play as those lords or races in Mortal Empires.

So yeah, besides the mini-campaigns there is no reason to play WH1 once you have WH2.

Yes to all of that except for stand-alone campaigns, of which there were only two, Beastmen and Woodelves.
You have access to all the factions/units that you own in WH1 in mortal empires.

No armies weakness should be a complete inability to capitalize on a victory. That's stupid and arbitrarily done, and isn't related to the "faction" but CA's whim.

Depth guard are the least lore breaking units they could've come up with, although they should've been exclusive to Noctilus

>Oh boy Total War 2 trailer, that's a good game I should replay it
>Remember the 2 minute turn times even with a SSD

Nope

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Not being able to run down armies is just a symptom of them having no true cav, which is a very necessary weakness.

If you already have Warhammer 1 when you buy Warhammer 2 you get the entire world map from both Warhammer 1 and 2 including all the factions in a game mode called Mortal Empires.

Aren't depth guard utter trash, or did they buff them recently?
They could mow down chaff but got hammered by anything approaching decent infantry

>Ever using Slanns
youtu.be/68BuTbMCrpQ

All the races in WH1 (plus any DLC you own) are available in WH2's combined campaign map (if you own both games). The only things that don't transfer over are the two mini-campaigns (Call of the Beastmen and Realm of the Wood Elves) which were both shit anyway, and the cinematic intro videos when you started a campaign, which are on Youtube. Unless you really really want to play those mini-campaigns, you can go ahead and uninstall the first game.

Lizards aren't just getting Kroak, they mentioned in the FAQ that the under empire thing is just a 'taste" of the changes for lizards and skaven.

They should've just not, the whole point of the Vampire Coast is that their infantry is trash, but now they have probably the best heavy infantry in the game.

Well, depth guard is kinda shit

>half-things
HALFling army roster NEVER EVER

What the FUCK.

Depth Guard are good and efficient against low tier infantry, but any real elite infantry will have no trouble against them.

Jesus Christ finally all this shit should've been in game ages ago

What? I just finished a coast campaign on legend and depth guard were still horribly underwhelming. Saying their the best heavy infantry in the game when swordmasters, black orcs, har ganeth executioners and chosen exist is just laughable.

It's gotta be Gor-Rok, Itza is too important to pass up and Big K is already a comfirmed Legendary Hero.

>yfw retards expected to see Thanquol and Grey Kikes clan instead of Skryre

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Gor-Rok would be cool as a horde faction.

Rat cummies in Elven tummies!

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This.

I'm so sick and tired of chinkmanii.

Maz is absolutely great as an AI breaker.
Just send him in alone, wait for the enemy to blob, drop his bound spells, an upgraded net and a comet, then send everyone else in.
Given he regenerates and has apotheosis, once he's on his steg he's practically unkillable before your forces get there.

>still no bretonnian handgunners

Um... what the heck? Why wouldn't they have guns?

People keep saying this so I'll make it a bit clearer.

YOUR SSD INFLUENCES LOAD TIMES NOT TURN TIMES, BIN THAT i5 2500k AND GET A CPU THAT WASN'T MADE A DECADE AGO

Also, you should install steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1574300248

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I'd rather just wait for Total Warhammer 3. They fucked themselves over. Were it not for Warhammer I might buy it.

nigger what.
Depth guard are highly effective at breaking tar pits, but any specialist anti infantry, or even well armoured infantry, will cause a costly and cost inefficient clash at best, and rip them to shreds at worst.

Because if the handgunners are knights than guns are un-chivalrous, and if they are peasants then no one can be bothered to pay for expensive guns and gun powder to equip them.

are the Empire and Greenskins still in need of being updated

Yes, Maz is good. Mostly becuase of the mount that makes him into a tank. The other Slann don't get a stag though, they can only face tank and they are about as strong as any other caster lord, only with a 4x large hitbox and no flying ever.

They aren't chivalrous you dumb peasant

I remember the preview tournament they held right before Coast launched and the Depth Guard were way, way overtuned. They were absolutely invincible before they were heavily nerfed for launch. Maybe that's what he's talking about.

Because the Bretts are keenly aware that giving the peasants an equalising weapon would be a very bad idea.
Sure, grail knights basically ignore bullets, but the average tyrant and his retinue doesn't

They should put some predator reference on the start of trailer

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Literally haram.

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They did

Thanks. So only the story campaigns for Beastmen and Wood Elves are not present? Are there no story campaigns for the "core" WH1 races?

Maybe, but that was months ago so he would have to be living under a rock to not know that.

Mortal Empires is literally Warhammer 1 but in a bigger and wider map.

No mini-campaigns. It's just mortal empires for the WH1 races but the Chaos invasion does still happen.

I wish ending turns was faster in Mortal Empires. Bigger map means more factions to cycle through.

Imagine mortal empires in TWW3

The game will be fucked without theatres of war

You're not missing out much with the Wood Elves and Beastmen campaign. Besides, by sticking with WH1 you're missing out on the revamps that were done for the Wood Elf faction.

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What the hell those rats look exactly the same as the ones from Vermintide.

tomb kings in vortex is pretty great

Except in that same tournament mammoth wulfrik literally deleted a unit of guard with polearm in 2 attacks. And THEN they got nerfed. Depth guard are a unit of fucking vampires like the heroes and yet they suck shit against anything on the same tier as them. They are purely for punching down now but you're not going to buy 1200 cost shieldless elites to punch down just because they regen in melee.

A ToB reskin to cash in on those easy chinkfan bux.

You're going to have to buy wh2 anyway just like you have to buy wh1 now if you want all the factions

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I've seen some speculation they'll have a Chaos dimension as another seperately loaded map. I don't know if that would help with loading times, though. I'm no game dev.

>Big K
Since when?

>Click end turn in Even Mortaler Empires
>Go make a sandwich
>Eat it
>Do the laundry
>Take a nap
>Read a few chapters of War and Peace
>Learn to paint
>Take a round trip to several major capitals and enjoy the sights, sounds and smells of the local cultures
>Meet a beautiful girl, get married, build a family together, and happily retire at age 65
>Return to your computer to take your next turn
>It's paused on the diplomacy screen because Vlad von Carstein wants you to pay him 300 gold for a non aggression pact

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What a nice trustworthy lad, you should accept

There's a Mod that fixes this it's great you auto decline any diplomacy. Just click a button during turn end and alt tab for 2-5 minutes

Maybe because they are the same fucking faction called Skaven dummy?

>playing any other total war game

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There's a mod for that

Why doesn't steam mention Kroak?

that is perhaps one of the worst trailers ive ever seen

He's part of the free update, not the DLC. That's why it doesn't talk about the Under-empire either.

>lord motherfucking kroak
Jesus fuck, the most powerful entity in the entire franchise.

You don't like Predator?

Of course he doesn't, he's low test

Great... more things to protect mommy from.

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>he didnt like Ikit kino laugh

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the trailer looks like it was made by interns and the assets looked rushed, the only thing that didn't look shitty was tehenhauin's flash battle wagon

They did a really good job at portraying his insanity

>Lets cut best rat lord, best clan, and some of the most iconic skaven units to sell as dlc later.
I will never not be mad that they didn't have Skryre and Ikit Claw right from the get go.

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>tfw the last total war you played is rome and you don't understand anything anymore
There's to many stats to remember where do I get up to date?

you dont want to rtw and med 2 were the apex of the series mechanically

good Ikit is not insane, he just gets boners from warpstone ultra weapons, canonically his dream is making a weapon strong enough to destroy the world which is the doomsphere

DUDE A POP CULTURE REFERENCE

>most powerful entity

Incorrect.

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A shame medieval 2 warhammer mod was so unstable or I'd have stuck with it.

What are you on about? The games have mostly been dumbed down

She's going to get the Slann Dunk

>gets beaten to immortality by a manlet too enraged to die, a hairy barbarian who decided he wanted to be a god, and a frog who got bored of being dead

think he means the health system implemented in rome 2 which was a net negative for series desu

Nah, Kroak is officially and unoffically the most insanely powerful fucker in the franchise. Obviously he's kind of dead now but the slimy cunt willed himself into life at the end because he got tired of the bullshit around the world. Then Age of Smegmar happened and turned him into a godlike frog instead.

Everything is

I meant Kroak, both Kroak and Gor-Rok come from Itza

You forgot cucked by rats.

>dumbed down
Rome and the earlier titles are simple as fuck, user. What are you on about.

2 times

Are skaven getting a rework?

I'm more excited about Bretonnia update. Finally green knight will have unlimited uses

>Those Motorcycle noises

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>DLC launches in 13 days

Sensible chuckle.

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Is vortex worth playing?

>were the apex of the series mechanically

Are you fucking kidding me? Have you not played Fall of the Samurai? Attila? Have you seen the upcoming 3K? How can you claim that both Rome and Med2 are the most "mechanically" advanced games in the TW library?

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Alberic should get Bretonnian Marines who have weaker handguns or blunderbusses or something. The Bretonnian Navy canonically uses gunpowder.

No

If you prefer the new races and don’t mind the more limited map, it’s quite a lot smoother to get through.
You can pretty much ignore the vortex mechanics anyway.

>rome and earlier titles were simple as fuck
>has an actual population management system
>has a better building system
>has units that actually act like real people would in battle
>has actual mass and weight to units, not ice skating non-entities that jostle amongst themselves for a position of attack phasing in and out of the materium
>formations buckle in older total war games from the mass and momentum of the winning side
the only thing simple here is your brain

yeah... if you don't care about old world factions then just play Vortex but other than shorter turn times Vortex doesn't have anything over ME

sure, the turn times are a bless compared to mortal empires

The navy uses gunpowder because they exploit the technicality that gunpowder can’t be used on land, which is also why brettonian fortresses keep their batteries surrounded by water.

no they have a retarded gimmick where they spawn like 5 doom stacks in your home territories and since they removed player created garrisons you can't prepare for it and they just raze all your shit

Excellent opinion.

>CA goes and puts stupid looking catapults on Bretonnian ship models anyway

Dwarfs got an update? i feel like i haven't played this game in ages, what did they update?

>not vampirechads related

Who cares?

Crafting, same as Tomb Kings.

The only thing holding me back. Unless they have some code magic trick up their sleeve then WH3 is going to be a nightmare with both ogres and chorfs.

She looks like she fucks beastmen.

>Crafting, same as Tomb Kings.
That's it?

unironically total warhammer 2's vortex campaign. It's only 4 major factions and 2 minor ones to deal with and you you start in the corners of the map.

ca creates half baked mechanics that are lazily done and half baked, what did you expect?

Is Kroq Gar the most based lizard?

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I don't know, guess i should have expected that when we got the underground thing for 4 different factions.
I guess they may have gotten a moment of genious but that was too high of a hope on my part i think.

Old world factions need some love , make the Empire great for once. Their units look boring and like shit it need a redesign, also why the fuck all vikings are so width it really looks bad when fighthing against the empire

Every time i try to start a new campaign as lizardmen i start as Mazdamundi but can't help but go back to My nigga Kroq Gar because he is just so fun to play with.

His autism will soon be outmatched by the skink equivalent of a Deus vult LARPer

>Infantry unit that comes equipped with muskets
>Can shoot incoming enemies before being engaged in combat.
>Are equipped with fireglaives which also functions as a halberd.
>Halberdiers are anti-large, anti-cavalry, are armor piercing, and can stop charging cavalry.
>They are also heavily armored.

Okay chucklefucks, how do you possibly balance this.

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I wonder how his manlet rage will stack up against Kroq.

I count six, actually.
>Dwarfs
>Greenskins
>Beastmen
>Wood Elves
>Skaven
>High Elves (through Alith Anar)

>Learn to paint
so this is GW's goal all along

They'll both look miniscule compared to the GREAT WHITE LIZARD

So what are they doing to do after this DLC? Araby or will the just move on to 3K and WH3 and leave WH2 behind?

Make them have little movement and range.

If the WH1 precedent is anything to go by, one more faction, a mass balance patch and then move on

Are expensive as all fucking hell and come in units as small as ogre groups because the only thing dying faster than regular dorfs and c.dorfs.

They've said there'll be 'at least one' campaign pack (Kangs/Coast scale), so yes possibly Araby. No word other than that. WH3 is still in pre-production though, so I wouldn't expect that to launch this year and they'll need things to fill the gap, so there'll probably be more.

Make them expensive as fuck and force you to take Hobgoblin fodders early as your maintstay inf
Also lower range like Empire/Napoleon line inf and Dwarf speed

Delusional

Its going to be a shitty spell isnt it.

Tehenhauin spawned a god into existence through pure, unadulterated hate of rats.

>which is also why brettonian fortresses keep their batteries surrounded by water.

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I want playable Clan Moulder in ME

Prohibitory cost, low unit size, relatively mediocre melee stats for an elite and relatively low range.
I'd see them as a unit that can be a real threat due to their ranged damage output/charging a weak spot, but can't be fobbed off with a tarpit or harrassment cavalry.

their main counters would be dedicated anti infantry ranged/heavy infantry, or at a pinch monsters/cavalry that see their stats and don't give a fuck.

>We could've had Throt instead of Tretch
Sometimes CA has done some weird fucking choices in terms of playable Lords.

We won't see WH3 till next year, so I'm hoping for more DLC. I'm crossing my fingers for Araby, there are Elven and Empire wenches that NEED to be enslaved and put into harems.

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Has anyone played the "Closer to Tabletop" mod? sounds cool

Tretch is most likely a seed for WH3. Pic related is where he lives in the lore (over the mountains to the east of the badlands, so within WH3's territory). I expect he'll be moved back over there when that comes out so the Skaven have a presence there.

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Not anymore

I can get that, but still. Choosing Tretch LiterallyWho? over one of the guys from the great clans is just all kinds of what. Same thing with Helman Ghorst.

Wrong, High Elf women are made for Druchii penis.

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Only 2nd most after we finally got Aztec Moses

Ghorst is one of the weirdest choices I've ever seen.
It's absolutely bizarre why he was added.

>wanting to be poor and unlucky

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Helmann at least makes sense since they were adding the corpse carts and he is a subordinate of Manny, Tretch is so low effort they didnt even animate his flail and turnet it into a spear instead.

Worst wasted slots are:

1. Ghost Whale
2. Tretch
3. Aranessa (ruined Sartossa)
4. Ghorst

legitimately concerned at the moment

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Same way you balance Sea Guards.

Funny way of spelling Ulric there, Talabeclander!

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finally some new fucking content fellow fantachads
hopefully lizardmemes will finally be fun

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You turn the manlets into lanklets?

I’m dissapointed they didn’t gave lizard about a range ap option like razordon hunt pack because it is what they need the most.

>Not ironically worshipping the God of Atheism

Get on my fucking level.
warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Necoho

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This.
Skave need some tanky and strong melee lord. Queek is not strong enough apparently.

Why do people want an even bigger map for TW:W3? I just want to play the game not to wait 10 minutes each turn.

Except total war skaven look like fucking trash compared to vermintide skaven when doing literally anything other than standing still.

At least tretch is canon and playable on tabletop.

And you can, just don't play ME then.

>They will literally shit on every faction with artillery.
Looks like bearded manlets and virginempire will get rekt

Haven't played in a while, is the performance unfucked finally? I'm running wayyy too powerful a rig to be getting 35 fps

But they don't?
TWW Skaven can actually scurry

>>This makes the Under-Empire a truly cat-and-mouse feature

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How to play Bretonnia? I try to hammer and anvil but the anvil is fucking shit

You hammer & hammer instead

Peasant archers are super good spam those fuckers

Does this actually work? Can I get a bunch of low-tier knights as an anvil and smash my grail buddies into them?

yes
then while they are engaged with grail buddies withdraw the knights for a minute to let them rest, then charge them in and withdraw opposite cavalry (unless they're Perfect Vigor)

It gets easier when you have foot squires and men at arms with shields. Early game, abuse pox archers (which are surprisingly good) and try not to die. Mid game, hammer and anvil, the AI's early game units won't be able to break through your men at arms so quickly and will rout instantly when you flank them. Late game, you can have Grail Reliquary reinforcing your anvil and they'll be actually reasonable. Endgame, get 19 units of Grail Chads in a doomstack and roll around autoresolving everything.

>which is also why brettonian fortresses keep their batteries surrounded by water
Wait, seriously? That's almost the reason 'Sisters of Battle even exist' tier of a loophole.

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I AM FRANZ, THEY WILL OBEY

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grail lads are your anvil, lowbie knights are your hammer

alternatively just doomstack grailchads

Hey man, fuck rats.

If only it worked as well as they show it. CA are fucking braindead. Can you believe these retards let out patches for bugs only when they release DLC? It's fucking embarassing.

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If you want infantry to be an anvil you need a grail relique about the place to make sure they hold. Battle pilgrims and grail relique used to be the standard line for bret since its strong enough to make sure that everything gets above 70 leadership with a good deal of melee defense. Otherwise, yeah just go more hammers. Consecutive cav charges, even to the front of braced infantry, will break them. Get a few peasants with polearms then just charge 2 or 3 units into the flank from the exact same direction and you'll push them halfway down the line. Or work on your micro skill and charge any infantry from both sides at the same time.

youtube.com/watch?v=7RnTDYhAsj0
youtube.com/watch?v=J9w5tjT-RnY&t=
desu they should just port over vermintide's ost

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Reminder that Sigmar got a whole setting for himself and Taal got shit.

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Why update Bertonnia and not Empire?

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>Bloodborne gave me an erection for vamps with guns
>favorite faction is Chad von Carstein
>they don't get any fun artillery or firearms except for one shitty RoR that's capped at 1
>Vampire Coast is a shitty meme faction

Not asking for a lot, just an infantry unit like a free company that can vanguard deploy and an artillery piece powered by black magicks that doesn't kill so much as disrupt and cause fear, like hellstorm rockets that are imbued with angry souls that get released when it explodes.

Yes!

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Yep.
The Dukes let it slide because they know how fucked they’d be without proper coastal defences.

The big huge campaign map requires the previous games.

>>Vampire Coast is a shitty meme faction
Watch your tongue mortal boy

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AYYYY THESE ARE THE 2 I WANTED MOST

WOOO IM HAPPY

Cathay is unironically going to be the "Good guy" faction in TWW 3 base game, Middenland is going to be pre order faction like Norsca was.

Pretty much. Brettonia is a trade nation. Its lifeblood is trading with the southern realms and Ulthuan. Dark Elves love fucking with literally anything along the sea so the brettonian navy is strong as hell. The entire reason the Imperial navy isn't shit is by stealing inspiration from dwarfs and brettons.

Because the Empire has been made the noob-friendly faction. It's frustrating because it's obvious they could make it a lot more fleshed out if the other factions are anything to go by. Hopefully the HE become the default beginners faction soon and in TW3, they fit the bill much better with how they're implemented in the game.
>base units have fucking great cost effectiveness
>strong all-around with plenty of generalist units and good specialized ones
>fucking Lothern memeguard
>high magic having shit to handle most situations, including fucking up flying units all in one non-lord unit
>starting position in campaign is goat-tier

I might finally enjoy playing Skaven outside of the battles. Fantastic.

Cathay would be a great faction, but then they'd have to add Ogres, Chaos Dwarves, and massively expand the already huge campaign map without increasing the already noticable time between turns. I think it's too ambitious unless it's a standalone campaign like the Vortex when the main draw is ME. Kislev and the Empire might get fleshed out though.

That is exactly what they are doing 3rd game though. Adding Chaos Dwarves, Ogres, Daemons, and ???.

They will prob do what they did in 2 and have the whole of Cathay in the "Vortex" of 3 and cut off a lot of it for Mortal empires like they did with Lustria

>Ikit Claw
>Ratling Guns
>Jezzails
>Doom-Flayers
>warpstone nuke
>that fucking Predator scene

It's literally everything I wanted, based CA redeeming themselves after Chinkshit.

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I could deal with that, they could even pull an Empire:TW with it where instead of having to map the world from Western Russia to India, they just made it a separate zone linked by sea routes (which would also make the HE outposts important)

I want to believe, but I donno user

no thanquol and verminlord is really disappointing

SOON

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I never played RTS outside of stuff along the lines of Warcraft. They have tutorials on this game?

Yes. Total War battles are really slow and simple anyway. You won't have a problem against AI.

>could have this
>instead get boring ass dawi

Total War doesn't take long to learn at all. Very easy learning curve

Wait, the TWW does the Hitman thing where each new game imports everything from the previous game?

Doombulls when?

Yeah, but when you are presented with the general concept of
>humans, guns, tanks, some magic
>elves, eagles, dragons, lots of magic
The former sounds simpler

What's wrong with the chaiwanese game?

If you own WH1 you can combine WH2 map with WH1 map in 2nd game. CA also promised to combine all 3 maps with WH3

Looks like the most broken shit ever. Good infantry, ranged, artillery, monsters, and cavalry. What's the weakness? No magic. Psssh.

But can you use all of the factions and content from 1 in 2?

It's been so goddamn long, but I loved everything I saw in the trailer. Day of the Snake has come.
Skaven stuff looks cool too

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Necoho is a poor substitute for Malal.
Literally, the creator of Malal sued for the rights so they made Necoho to fill his spot, later also Malice for 40k.

that's hilarious, is that from one of the bretonnia rulebooks? Source?

Yes, but it's not 100% the same content. Many things from WH1 have been updated. If you play dwarfs, for example, in WH1 it will be old version, in WH2 they have new features like forge and separate start for Slayer king. Same thing with vampires, betonnia and so on

Interesting, thanks.

Chorfs do use magic, their only weakness is probably just expensive dwarf units and backstabbing hobgob units

I believe that was first from Man'oWar but was later canonized in Fantasy Battles.

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Empire while incredibly bland at least functions. Brettonia fucking sucks without mods because the chivalry mechanics aren't understood by the AI making them pushovers.

The dawn of Gnomes is here

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>No magic
Oh silly user

He was chosen since he's Mannfred's right hand in the Sigmar's Blood story arc, which the G&G pack is 100% based on. Every single RoR is from it and Volkmar has a central role in it. The only part that doesn't fit is the Strigoi lord but that's the only 8e lord type Vampire Cunts were missing.

Helman was canon and technically playable, but he was literally just a Corpse Cart with a special rule for his given scenario.

>still no space lizards in Age of Groundmarines

At least the Dlc looks really nice

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Why is it that Bretonnia, known only for their high quality knights, get their asses kicked by Blood Knights and Demigryph Knights with halberds? It's a fucking joke.

Because they're french

>No magic
heh heh heh

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6th edition, IIRC

Probably the cost to actually cover all their potential bases

So this may sound dumb but pls understand I ask this as someone who's only ever played "traditional" RTS games. How do the Total War games work? I tried Shogun and when the game basically opens up with everyone just having gigantic armies ready to go for free without any base construction or unit production I was...very confused. What's the deal with that?

AI cheats

Total War is all about war and actual battles. The campaign is just something to do between them. Your goal in all TW games is complete military dominance(except for like Wood Elves in WH). Your primary objective is to build up an army on your own and strategically choose where to expand first and engage in diplomacy to cover your flanks.

In the fluff, Blood Knights are some of the most dangerous beings out there, and demigryphs are insanely dangerous to the point where it’s rare to have any more than 3 knights in the kingdom who have one.

finally

because when the horse and rider are skeletons they don't give a fuck about lances and demigryphs could literally eat a horse for breakfast.

Because Blood Knights and Demigryphs are rarer

they really don't though if you properly utilize lance formation. They lose vs blood knights usually because of the healing from vamp counts lords. If you have the skill points + tech to buff them and get off lanced charges they butter the bread of all but chaos knights w/ ease, and still beat chaos knights despite not having good ap

its hybrid rts/turn based. Battles are all real time tactics with a big emphasis on basic positioning and hammer/anvil in a rock/paper/scissors format, and the turn based campaign map is the vessel where you build up your armies/resources. Think of the campaign map as the base building portion and the battles as the battles

Only reason why I'm excited for WH3, we get to finally see these guys wrecking shit in the badlands.

Step aside Norscum, make way for the bad ass hordes of Asavar Kul and Thorgar the Blooded, the Kurgans.

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bretonnia campaigns always go the same way

you either have the hardest time ever or you sit in your capital and confederate and do fucking nothing for 60 turns then roflstomp everybody.

yes, but you need to own 1. And you can't play the Only-OG-Factions mode in 2.

She canonically does

cost and low unit amounts. lots of their stuff is just a big target. pretty slow units overall as well.

oh and leadership.

>Kroak is in
>still no Nagash
WE'RE WAITING, CA

Between unit costs and lack of proper synergies chorfs were punching bags on tabletop.

Nagash is SHIT!

I prefer Morr

>A FIFTH FUCKING CHAOS FACTION
I sincerely hope not

balanced by beeing paying fuckign forge world prices in your campaign

JUST LET ME USE THE SKELETON POPE YOU SHITS

>Lord Croak as a LL
Faggots will be saltier than the dead sea when the magical nukes start dropping.

he's just a Hero

but still

Allowing peasants to wield weapons able to kill knights is comunism.
And comunism is not wellcomed in Bretonia.

Blood knights lore wise are the aboslute pinnacle of the empire knights that went vamp. Demigryph knights are good but small amounts. Grail knights have perfect vigor which you absolutely are underestimating the power of.

1. The peasants bring their own weapons.
2. The peasants don't have the money to buy firearms.
3. Their liege lords would also not allow them to own firearms.
4. The maritime merchant class is the exception to the above points, but only because they rake in dough.

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I hope some of the more minor factions like the distinctly horse nomad marauders and hobgoblins get fleshed out instead of being just generic norscans/goblins in g3

>former imperial envoy
It’s the little things

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>warpfire rainbow in the distance

6. WoC, Daemons, Chaos Dwarfs, Beastmen, Norsca, Horseniggers (Kurgan/Hung)

S I X

also aren't Skaven technically Chaos

Maybe.

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In the same way that Dawi-Zharr are "technically" chaos, they don't worship the big four and rarely work together, but their own deities are considered "chaos" by some.

If it's any consolation, they're probably going to give them the NPC horde faction treatment harassing the Dark Lands and Cathay just like they did the Hung/Mung tribes in Total War Warhammer 2 north of Naggaroth.

But fuck man how I want to see Kurgan champions like Crom the Conqueror and Tamurkhan. If they have any intention of making Kislev playable, they need to add Kurgans since they are Kislev's mortal enemy to the point that they almost wiped them off the map.

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They're really starting to know how to make trailer.

Shit, skaven will actually be interesting to play as in head to head campaigns now.

Will they have access to the new units in the everchosen this weekend?

That's gonna be a pirate for me, not giving money to SJW devs

thanks for the update

Yes.

Yeah, they even specifically said that the Everchosen will us a first look at the new units.

youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98

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>Play head to head with friend as a way to coop as lizards and Skaven
>Doomsphere his main settlement

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>just THINGS in Norsca

ha

testing the engine for 40k tw

ohh that makes sense. i think since i just tried a skirmish cause i wanted to puzzle out the mechanics, that's what threw me off so much. because the skirmish was just "pick your units here they are now go kill the guy." knowing there's some overarching way of gaining units to fight with in the campaign setting is encouraging.

Soon my Kurgan brothers, soon! We will lay a wasting all along Cathay and the lands of the Empire and Kislev the likes that would make ruination itself weep.

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Whatever shitskin

i hope the new doomcycles dont suck like doomwheels

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Cathay ain't fucking happening, but Kurgans sound fairly likely.

CONTACT!

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I am gonna say the A word

>Thanquol, you son of a bitch!

F Sexual tyrannosaurus.

>Doomwheels suck
n8
b8
m8

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say something nice about my cute husband Ikit Claw!

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for their price? yeah
they suck

>what's the matter? Council of 13 got you pushing too many warpstone tokens?

same with the weapon teams, nothing good Cav cant stop

>omg guys their price is so expensive!!!!!!
>stupid ca wont let me spam same unit!!!!!
>this unit sucks!!!!!

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Is Rome 2 good yet or should I just stick with W2?

An infantry muncher is still invaluable to the Skaven

Yea I hate that he's actually carrying the slab with him at all times

It's a mixed bag. Some a great, like shaven reveal, pirates and this, while others fall flat like the elves, dwarfs and beastie boys

Age of Sigmar

>norscan imported faith
Heretics go on the pyre

return the slab

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Sigmar was an Ulrican and only ascended by Ulric's own will. If anything, you are the heretic, and the Emprie will fall due to your misdeeds.

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Rome 2 is still shit although i have never tried mods like DEI or anything

>Hellpit, interesting and unique starting position, huge region with 10 slots and main settlement of one of the 4 great clans isn't playable because we got Clan Rictus instead, which isn't even where it is supposed to be.
>All Elector Counts and other minor factions aren't playable either. At least all minor factions should be unlocked to begin with since now everyone has to rely on janky Crynsos mod that makes plenty of other questionable changes
>Lord Packs still are small, annoying and greedy packs of 2 LL and few units instead of being proper expansions.
>We still might get Gor Rok, literal generic saurus but white instead of Nakai so each Lizardmen caste has it's own LL.
>Bretonnia update looks bad and no new LL
>Still only one TW:W1 race rework per dlc update. And they are made with the least effort possible, simple kitbashes and mod tier units.

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I wonder if they change Clan Rictus in to Darklands in TW3.

Nakai is very likely since Albion was added as a settlement in the last patch, and would be a good start position for him. Other than that, I agree with you.

>Hellpit, interesting and unique starting position, huge region with 10 slots and main settlement of one of the 4 great clans isn't playable
They had their own army list and might get their own race pack as a result.
>We still might get Gor Rok, literal generic saurus but white instead of Nakai
Nakai isn't much better than Gor-Rok. They're both giant albino lizards who smash good, and Nakai never even had rules.
>Still only one TW:W1 race rework per dlc update. And they are made with the least effort possible, simple kitbashes and mod tier units.
I'm in agreement with this, I don't like how the VC bloodline lords look or work.
>All Elector Counts and other minor factions aren't playable either.
This one is the funniest since I figured that CA would churn out Empire DLC en masse back when the first game came out. Lo and behold, nothing.

OY VEY you will get your ethereal Arkhan next year

Can't wait to shit on barbarous scaliefags

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The roles should be reversed in that pic.

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>devastating campaign map abilities
>5% movement boost
>5+ to melee attack for all skink
You know it

That is why both are Taals bitch you homosexual Wolf fuckers.

I can't wait to finish what Sotek started.

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HOLA
SKEEEEEEEEEEEEEENKS

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>Once every ten turns, will downgrade a random port you don't own somewhere in the world by one tier

I'm still mad, if you couldn't tell.

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Wait, someone has that?

It's the benefit Amanar gives you when you raise it after the final battle of the Vampire Coast campaign.

Top lol. What the fuck were they thinking? Does it give anything else?

That setting is a fucking disaster

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Sometimes dead is better.

>Lustria Bowl just got Tehenhauin added
>Almost surely Gor'Rok will be in there too
>Vortex probably has fucking Ikit as well

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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What were they thinking?

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yea everchosen is basically an advert tourney

Are you joking? It's one of the worst ones they made and CA is amazing at in engine trailers usually. Rome 2 ones like Hannibal youtube.com/watch?v=OzZZ6Mpfh7c and Teutoburg Forest youtube.com/watch?v=7fqb3cPPfuM were pure kino. Everyone remembers youtube.com/watch?v=uj3-VkbRSKQ Fots one too. This one looks like it was made on toaster, looking worse than Shogun 2 ones. Presenting of Lizardmen side and Skink hitler was fucking terrible and it looks like early ps3 game. The only good thing about it is idea of parodying Predator in first moments, but quality of it is very bad. youtube.com/watch?v=W3h95GetPDs The King & The Warlord was made in much better way and isn't as repulsive to look at. It also properly introduces units on both sides and LLs.
>shaven reveal
>good
In what fucking way. It's as bad as Warriors of Chaos one, though for different reasons. There is no narration to it or story and lore, only simple battle with incredibly annoying cuts like out of the most generic hollywood blockbuster.
youtube.com/watch?v=k8EQ1KNkpmw It is one of the most boring ones they made.
>while others fall flat like the elves
Lol no, Morathi narration is perfect, it quickly summarizes goal and story of faction and it's LL. It also presents nice ministory with few High Elves soldiers trying to run out of besieged city and Malekith stopping them which is far more that simply recording one custom battle.
youtube.com/watch?v=zB6FaGBz0Lo
>dwarfs
youtube.com/watch?v=543IO9fPuks
Again, it has perfect narration, introduces to faction, LL and their goal. It also follows interesting ministory of dwarf scout trying to deliver news of greenskins invasion. One of the best they made.
>beastie boys
youtube.com/watch?v=rPu86Pgcy8Q
The only bad thing about it are helmets instead of heads on altar because of pitiful pegi 16 edginess.

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>Vortex probably has fucking Ikit as well

It does. He starts in the Star Tower on the Vortex map, according to the Steam page.

Lustria is gonna be such a goddamn clusterfuck. I love it.

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Well played CA, well played.

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Kys trannie

>rats
who fucking cares

t. seething elf fag

I do

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Ratfags are delusional as always, leave them be.

To keep things in perspective, this is a Truffle hound.

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Bruh

>Salamanders, warpfire teams, necrofex colossi
>The odd dwarf expedition with their helicopters and their own flamethrowers
>Ratling guns going wild and invisible jezzails sniping from their hiding spots, making every step through the jungle hell
>Cameleon skinks on top of that
>Lokhir bombarding everywhere near the coast with his black arks
>Skaven and Lizards both just got aereal strikes of their own

youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

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Barely distinguishable from your average brettonian, really

filthy fucking rodents imagine living in new york or chicago and seeing those things the size of cats

They might actually look a bit better.

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I dunno I think it's pretty decent these days, team Bulgaria did a good job. DEI is pretty good though it's a lot of autism with the supply and population system.

I'm more familiar with 40k. Please tell me about tehenhauin.

Meant for

They love their Skaven puns. I'll always be mad how underappreciated it was when they were asked in interviews about the final """unannounced""" race in Warhammer 2 they responded it hasn't been 'ratified' yet.

There's not much to say. He's pretty straightforward. He worships a huge snake and is widely believed to be its prophet, and he persecutes genocidal campaigns against rats with religious zealotry.

fatshartfags are mentally ill

Here comes my boy Ikit BASED AND WARPPILLED Klaw!

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He worships not!Quetzalcoatl and run arounds leading red crested skinks and saurus killing and sacrificing every damn rats he saw
Basically he's a 40k Inquisitor

Enjoy verminlootbox 2

Skaven are just Rat Beastmen. And Beastmen are the Children of Chaos.

Skink Hitler. Loves live sacrifices, especially of Skaven, which he sacrifices especially cruelly. He claimed to be a prophet of Sotek, the Serpent God, and kicked so much ass nobody dared to challenge him on it. Once got so mad at the Skaven he summoned Sotek himself by sacrificing 'uncountable thousands' of Skaven and nearly destroyed the rats once and for all, with only a handful of ships able to flee the continent to later establish themselves in the Old World and Southlands. And then he leapt into the sea and started swimming after them so he could kill some more, the absolute madman.

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Can Vermintide be classified as a looter-shooter?

There's barely any loot, so no.

Sounds pretty cool. Other than working through the army books, what's a good way to get a baselevel understanding of Fantasy's lore? I've been into 40k so long I don't even remember how I accumulated my knowledge.

>Skink
Then how the hell is he so swole? I've seen those other ones, they're made of twigs compared to that thing.

God fucking damn I love the Fall of Samuria Trailer. Big dick American salesman chiming in as hordes of the old guard get cut down.
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Good question...really good question.

Leixcanum or wikia.

Prophet of Sotek, god of snakes, blood and war. Really, really fucking hates rats to such an incredibly degree that he personally killed and sacrificed hundreds of thousands of rats in the name of Sotek and spilled an oceanic amount of blood. So much in fact, that when he finally drove the rats out of Lustria, a fuckhuge snake manifested (believed to be Sotek) and went after them over the sea.
So yeah, he managed to spawn a god of war and blood through sheer amount of rage and blood spilled.

>Lizards constantly hyped up to be the biggest baddest Skaven-removing niggas in existence
>constantly struggle to deal with one (1) Great Clan running around spreading diseases and shit
>when a second Great Clan decided to get involved literally the entire continent was vaporised and all the Slann had to run away to space like little bitches

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Wikia is probably your best bet.
warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Tehenhauin

My fuckin' man.

Fuck the jew rats amirite?

we don't talk about End Times

Red crested skinks are literally Super Skinks blessed by Sotek to go kill rats

I'm with , End Times didn't happen.
But we all know scalies suck fat rat cock.

I dunno about that, every character has several different weapons, both ranged and melee, which some are locked for a certain professions like dual axes for Slayer. There are also necklaces, charms, trinkets. Plus all this stuff have different tiers with different stats and power (although it does not mean shit when you've maxed out your loot drop to 300 power). that's quite a variety to me.

Gas the scalies. End times now.

Skaven look like they can make better jokes than those lizard prudes

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Reminder that End Times were a Skaven psyop.

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Give praise to the Horned Rat for this bountiful dlc. Rats are going to dominate the tournament, and make all the elf shitters cry cry cry and cry more while their waifus spread their legs for Mr. Claw's giant barrel

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Is Sotek real? I'm assuming the Warp is the same as in 40k where if enough people believe something the combined energies create an entity to reflect it?

haha benis :DDDD

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Yeah, Sotek's real. It's speculated that he was born of the collective thoughts, believes and emotions of the lizards (especially skinks).

when are they gonna fix beastmen

I like how Fantasy and 40k are the same. It's comfy.

All the gods in Fantasy are 'real.' I know End Times are End Times, but at one point the Chorf god Hashut materialized to try and stop the Orcs from killing them all. In response, Gork and Mork materialized and bodied the nerd.

>not praising the great horned rat

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>implying the beastie boys aren't already perfect

When I was younger I thought Fantasy was kinda dumb, and thought 40k was cooler. I am beginning to realize how wrong I was.

Is Vampire Coast worth the money? Half of the leaders look cringe.

Shame how the VC units you get from Arkhan the Black are shit

what happens if you rub a truffle on your penis, haha, just asking for a friend

Sotek's real. When he was created is more unclear, Tehenhauin claimed to be his prophet through a plaque made by the Old Ones about the Skaven invasion and Sotek's coming.
No other Lizardmen cities has plaques mentioning that though, some Slanns even think he's fucking insane and don't let him bring rats to their altair

>No Jabbermeme
>No Ghorgon
>Only viable unit for infantry is the minotaurs
>Razorbacks are useless
>Centaurs are useless
>Only 1 lord type
>Only 1 viable legendary lord
The poopoopeepees are the 2nd worst DLC faction in the game.

Vampire coast is probably the stonrgest faction in game and Noctilis and Luthor are fun as shit.

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I do fine with them. But I play on normal.

You can do fine with any of the factions, but that doesn't make them fun. The beastie boys and horde factions in general need a rework after the vampire coast DLC basically introduced the best horde mechanics in the game. For a settlement using race.

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Best LL for each faction?
Empire: Karl Franz
Dwarfs: Grombrindal
Greenskins: Skarsnikl
Chaos: Archeon the Everchosen
Vampire counts: Vlad Von Carstein
Woof Elfs: Orion
Norca: Throgg
Bretonnia: King Loeun
Skaven: Lord Skrolk
Lizardmen: Lord Mazdamundi
Dark elfs: Malakith:
High elfs: Queen Alarielle
Tomb Kangs: Settra
Vampire Coast: Count Noctilus

I haven't played Vampire Coast yet. I really enjoy the Beast Men though. Maybe I just don't know better, because Warhammer is my first total war game.

>Orion
lmao my dude Durthu shits on him nonstop.

They're overpowered on the campaign map (even after the gigantic nerfs since launch) but they're so much fun to play. Noctilus has the best start position in the game (dead centre of the map, you can just go in any direction you feel like and have a great time). Gunpowder troops right from the start, unlike Humans/Dwarfs who have to reach tier 3 so probably won't get them until turn 20+. Great selection of magic lore, Luthor can fix his mind and use Lore of the Deep if you fulfill certain conditions. Great selection of monstrous units and their artillery are strong too. Tied with Tomb Kings for best DLC yet.

Goldman>Karl
Kholek>Archaon
Tree Hitler>Orion
Hellebroth>Malekith

gelt is the best empire lord
and he'ves is definately chadlis

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>Kholek>Archaon

My man.

they are fun but blatantly op. Cylostra is shitty oc but is at least unique gameplay wise, and luthor harkon + noctilus are both good lords. Do not touch aranessa, she is dogshit.

Lol I forgot entirely about beastmen, whats their best LL again

Probably Kazrak. But it's been so long I don't remember the bonuses they all give. Last time I played them I used Morghur and steamrolled.

DElves trailer is by far the worst of all though Dwarfs are kino along with Greenskins, only ones that beat Skaven reveal

enjoy your salamanders

Malagor in multiplayer and campaign if you're on easy or normal difficulty

On higher difficulties probably Kazrak because Malagor's leadership debuffs are a lot less useful there

>Hellebroth>Malekith
Ahahahahahahahahahaha back to your cauldron witch

>Greenskins
>Skarsnik
In MP or campaign? I feel like his campaign is way too RNG reliant on getting the AI to leave cities or not getting overwhelmed by 20 stack after 20 stack being sent at you

>trailer gets me interested in the game again
>buy the latest DLC
>launch game and get a popup about a free Dark Elf leader Lokir Fellheart
>have to exit game to download him
>click download on the store page
>instead of downloading it launches the launcher
What the fuck how do I get this shit to work?

You already have him if your game is fully updated, you just have to quit the game, add him to your library from the DLC page, and open the game. Its a dumb process for free content.

Arent skaven and 40k orks pretty much the same faction?

Orkz are much less about deception, subterfuge, and super high tech warp tech and more LOOKIN FOR GITZ TA KRUMP WIV AN AXE.

The only real similarities is that they're horde factions made up of mostly simple-minded screaming retards.

hey anons come play some games with us

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