Do publisher employees really come here, of all places, to shill their products...

>Do multimillion/billion dollar publishing organizations whose entire job is to act as a marketing machine for their products really hire viral marketing firms to post on one of the most popular video game forums on the internet (2 million yearly unique users as of 2016 on Yea Forums alone).
No user, we are all real human beans here.

And by beans, I mean a bunch of hacks paid cents to post on shittid, Yea Forums, youtube, metacritic and every other major gaming website to force public opinion in a positive direction for my hundred million dollar budget game.

Seriously if you want proof, go look at the catalogue in relation to any EA or Ubisoft game. Ubisoft are really easy because they literally use the same images and text every single time, you have thousands of identical threads and shilling posts inside them before games release then absolutely fucking nothing once it does.

Or if you want even more proof there was a leak in like 2004 or something where Sony got ousted for hiring viral marketing firms to sell their games on forums. A bunch of other companies got busted doing it too. The only difference today is that its standard practice and no one cares.

>one of the biggest video game forums on the planet which just happens to be anonymous does not have products with 7-8 digit marketing budgets advertised on it
very surreal indeed

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Because it's so easy
If they convince 1 person then that's enough

Ok, but why aren't mods deleting obvious shill threads then?

Not anymore, they don't.

Because it costs next to nothing. If even one posts convinces a single retard to buy their product, that's already a profit to them.

If they manage to turn it into a viral meme like Toddposting that will fool thousands, that's even better for them. I know several people who thought the meme was hilarious and "sticking it" to Bethesda, yet they bought Fallout 4.

Yes, you can tell who they are because they like video games and also play video games, both of which Yea Forums finds abhorrent.

I don't know. Why does Hiroyuki allow malicious ads on mobile?

>I can't believe people could have opinions so different relative to my own.
>There can be only one explanation, they're not simply wrong or stupid!
>They must be getting paid to have opinions different then mine.

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It does work. As long as their product is present in your mind, be it positive or negative thoughts and you talk about it that becomes free advertising for them

hi shill

Probrably because they sponsor the website.

I remember in the months leading up to Overwatch, any thread criticizing the game was deleted and given a 2 day ban.

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>Not realizing the newest form of advertising is trying to not seem like ads at all

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Corruption.

minecraft, risk of rain 1

>newest
the newest mode of advertising is customised ads
guerilla marketing is older

Ubi absolutely does, there's even more than one collage image proving it. They also used to "leak" R6Siege ops in the /vg/ general, but once they realized reddit was more popular, reddit "suddenly" started getting operator leaks instead.

Both of those were originally AGDG projects, though.

Hirojew actively encourages it

Take-Two does. Saw the social awareness numbers Monday, BL3 was very successful.

There's direct proof of that shitty Kotor MMO doing it.

It's tolerated when it's openly done by the dev(s) themselves, and even then only so long as they don't spam it. Notch got butthurt when we called him out for laziness while pretending not to be, then he fled to the sycophants at reddit. He seems to have grown wiser since then.

Is it me or do all the WOW classic threads REEK of paid shills?

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Just keep refreshing the catalog to see them do it in real time.

The internet really just gave both methods new capabilities but thanks for playing

Ever considered it could be falseflaggers trying to make a game seem bad by being obnoxious about it? Literally just another form of brand warrior faggotry

They pay the people who shill like a dollar an hour. Even if they only sell one extra copy ($60) every five days, that’s an economical investment.

If that was the case, shilling would intensify on weekends. Instead, it mostly goes away.

It's also worth pointing out one or two schizos are capable of obsessively posting for many months on end.

Have you been on Yea Forums during weekend the last decade? Off topic shit, porn spam and fakeshilling all over the place, especially when it's anglo hours

Look at the unique visits Yea Forums gets, per day. Then compare that to any other videogame website.

Yeah that's just silly haha
Imagine
Haha

Borderlands,halo,wow are mostly shill threads.

It's extremely cheap and if people don't know or aren't mindful then it's perfectly effective. Can be used to completely control the shape of discource by masquerading advertisment and propaganda as genuine consumer views.

It's not subtle to US, but there's always more dumb and/or new and/or naive fish in the sea. These things are a numbers game. It's about flooding the discussion space with controlling content as a macro-level propaganda factor.

Well, not no-one, no. Just that the sort of people who don't care and are incapable of caring about this have now flooded the market for this hobby.

The subtlest form of marketing is just to create a thread about a game and then leave. As long as people are discussing it your work is done. If you had id's you'd be able to see these easily with the op having one post.

Nintendo is the only major company that shills here and they probably have some jannies in their pockets. Other than them probably some indie guys.

Ubisoft does it all the time.

you just dont understand how advertising work, Yea Forums is huge, and even if only 0.5% of people who go there end up buying their shit its still a worthwhile endeavor

ubisoft also uses cracks to fix shit they're too lazy to do themselves

>DAE LOVE RAINWORLD
>SLUG CAT HAHA
>HERE’S A LINK IF U WANNA CHECK IT OUT

Kotaku likes to post here
Gamespot used to post here
Edge used to post here.

imagine unironically believing this.

This, also advertisers who are savvy can easily manipulate people with confirmation bias.

The Grinch leak was a textbook example of this since it was most likely just people building attention to the movie, and they got people to talk about it in proxy via 'leaked' roster.

They might have at one time and i'm sure once in a blue moon it does happen but only with indie games and the person probably browsed Yea Forums long before actually making a game.

In a world where Twitch now exists for shilling i'm amazed people still think it happens here.

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Hiro wants this site to make him money. You can figure out the rest.

If by employees you mean pajeets at a shitposting farm in New Delhi working for 60 rupees an hour, then yes, yes they do.

Yeah that is a really good example. It also reflects the degree of competition between marketers, and how one marketing campaign can piggyback off of another, parasitising on their hype. Lemmings will fall for anything if they reckoned the Grinch would really be in Smash.

Just keep a browser window open to the catalog and refresh it every minute, sorted by creation date. You’ll see how they operate. Video games are military tools training you to kill. Even the nonviolent ones have you lining up a cursor/crosshair with a target before pushing the button/pulling the trigger to create a desired outcome.

>All those low quality "PLAY [insert game name]" threads that have softcore porn as the OP
Either retards or shills, don't know which is worse

I'm pretty sure I saw Subnautica shilling couple of times

The best form of shilling is creating negative discussions with obvious bait, because retards always fall for it thinking they can 1-up someone in an argument when in reality said shiller couldnt give a shit.

I do it for free.

>I do it for free.
That’s trolling, not shilling. And don’t act like (You)s aren’t the most powerful currency in the universe.

He's saying trolling is the best form of shilling. Christ almighty.

Marketing fags feed off each other to create false drama and stir the lemmings into factionalism and tribal support for their product (the safe, well-known, security-succouring product vs the hated alien)

KOSHKA

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No, he said he shills for free, which is a contradiction in terms because shills get paid by definition.

Is autism really just symptoms of toxoplasmosis?

Yes, unlike Reddit they don't need to build up a cachet so they can just do it. Half of these omg x game is shit/why didn't you buy X yet are reverse marketing

There are a lot of different shill types on this board

>corporate shills who spam the same threads about games that no one cares about
>political shills who screech about trannies and niggers and shill shitty youtubers who regurgitate alt-right talking points.

Combing these you have the Chinese shills who push chinese garbage like the epic store well also defending their homeland(ask yourself why would a fairly right-wing board support a country that has forced abortion and the death penalty for gun ownership?

>you also have the occasional indie crowdfunding shill

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It may just be because I haven't eaten much today, but what you just typed is perhaps the stupidest thing in this thread. He detailed what he reckons is the best way to shill, then said he does THAT for free. It's alarming that this needs... explaining at all.

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Right meaning he said he shills for free, which one cannot do, as shills get paid.

I'm not sure how even the most dangerous strain of protozoan parasite either could, or would, mutate a human's sense of relevancy towards the personal extreme.

Only that I know that cats themselves are all extremely autistic. Maybe there's a gene transfer. Still, I know too many spergs who hate cats.

>halo
wrong

Not publisher employees, third party marketing companies hired by the publishers. I think the technique is known as cropdusting? Basically any site that gets enough traffic gets hit with talking points, some more hidden than others. It doesn't matter if it ends up good or bad, so long as people are talking about their product over someone else's. And it does work, people are easily led and any casual fuck (which is the majority) browsing some hobby board will check out the thing that everyone's talking about the most. Yea Forums just sort of gets mixed up in the dusting since it's mainstream and popular enough for recognition while still not quite vile and edgy enough for complete shunning, since Hiro needs his paper.

I wasn't wrong - I literally explained it to you and you still mess it up. Dios mios.

The fact there's more off-topic and porn spam is proof in favour of there being less paid shills, not more.

No, the user was conflating trolling with shilling. Trolls do it “for free” (for their own amusement), while shills actually get paid money to be obtuse on the internet.

They call the nonsense threads “forum sliding”.

That's mentally ill discord style political shilling done for free, not marketing company corporate shilling. And even then, Yea Forums has just always been a heavily off-topic board. If anything it's the filename, lol comic dump, and porn threads that those shills are trying to slide in the first place.

So you didn't understand the point made three posts back that he was saying "the best way to shill IS to troll". Not sure there's any point responding if you don't get that point after this.

They do it to be constantly in control of the discourse to the best of their ability.
Shilling makes the shill money, trolling is done for fun. Do you see that they are two different things, even though shills make themselves look like trolls on purpose? Trolls don’t get paid. Trolls aren’t shills, but shills can read just like trolls.

Does that cat have the skyrim symbol on its head?

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That's not what these words mean and even if you held the wrong definitions, you could easily have adjusted them from simple context.

Trolling is a "means" action, not an "end" action. You troll someone - make bullshit statements that wind them up - for any purpose, whether it's for your own satisfaction (trolling for the sake of it) or as a means to another end (distracting them, getting them to make a false move, or misleading them into thinking there's drama or a controversy).

Seemingly

And trolls do it for free obviously, but shills, which is what this thread about, do not. So the user was wrong in saying he shills for free. He is a troll for his own amusement. Nobody shills for free. Shills get paid to discuss video games and other things on this and other forums. They stick out like a sore thumb to regular forum users.

Trolling and shilling aren't mutually exclusive. There are shills who don't troll, there are shills who do troll, and there are trolls who aren't shills.

And there are no trolls who are shills, because shills get paid. They are an actual thing here, that’s what the thread is about. Glad we could agree.

>there are shills who do troll
>And there are no trolls who are shills
You cannot read. Shills who troll are trolls who are shills. Eat shit.

Is the recent easy mode nontroversy just free publicity for Sekiro?

No moron, shills are paid, trolls are not paid. A shill can troll but a troll can’t shill because they are not getting paid. It’s simple.

Also this board is filled with Sony shills. They are easy to spot. The nintnendo shit is from trolls.

No, trolls are no-lifers doing it for amusement, shills are posting here, but “at work”. Shills make money when they post here. Trolls do not. Shills aren’t really trolling when they’re being mean, they’re getting paid to bring attention to a game.

For god's sakes Todd. Genetically engineering a cat to shill your next game? That's absurd.