How do you feel about games that force you to backtrack a significant amount to see something unique? Can Yea Forums think of some good and bad examples of this in a game, or does Yea Forums just think it is a bad thing to do?
How do you feel about games that force you to backtrack a significant amount to see something unique...
Andrew Phillips
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Camden Clark
Tales of Vesperia does this badly. Half of the missable events require you to go back and stay at the inn of towns you already went through hours ago and have no real reason to go back to
Jordan Lopez
I know u don’t care about topic
Please post more goates
Bentley Stewart
Personally I think it's really bullshit you don't even get a good hint about this except for the fact that the character who tells you to explore is also in that same spot after you fight them in this game, but even that isn't usually discovered by the average player.
Levi Miller
B-but user... Off topic posting will get the thread banned..
Levi Walker
As long as it's irrelevant to the main plot there's nothing wrong with hiding a secret at the end.
Locking you out of the story and making you go through the game again for no reason makes me drop a game 100%.
Luis Diaz
But goates are always on topic
(Spoiler)In my heart(/spoiler)
Ryder Sullivan
>Bad backtracking
Nothing new, or just the same enemies with more health and damage.
>Good backtracking
New enemies, the area has changed in some form, your actions when you previously went through the area have had an effect.
Metroidvania type games get a slight pass with this, as you're usually unable to completely explore an area until you get a particilar ability, but working that figurative locked door into the game world properly is it's own challange and some dev's fuck up by making it into a whole new area straight away rather than extending the existing one into it.
Hollow knight does this decently, as between each area is a transition screen of various things creeping in from the new area before you even get to the entrance, from the music to the colour pallete to the little doodads in the back or foreground.
Angel Long
Asriel did everything wrong and deserves to be erased.
Jeremiah Myers
there are many things that need to be erased.
Julian White
Survival horror, metroidvanias and Souls games are my favourites so I'd say I like backtracking.
Jeremiah Garcia
In Mother 3, you can backtrack to Osohe Castle to fight an optional boss and get an overpowered equip. You can also backtrack to the Clayman Factory near the end of the game to find it abandoned with new music and enemies, though I don't remember any significant goodies. It's not really backtracking, but you can also visit high level areas near the Chimera Lab during chapter 4 before the plot requires you to go there to get a ton of powerful healing items early on.
I like it. Makes you feel like there's substance to the world.
As far as mandatory backtracking goes, has the right idea. I think changing the environment is an inferior solution to just having your abilities change the way you traverse the same environment, because the latter is what really cements the player character's growth.
Connor Rogers
As long as there aren't a ton of random battles in the way, I don't mind.
Elijah Wilson
Rune factory
Samuel Richardson
>How do you feel about games that force you to backtrack a significant amount to see something unique?
It makes me feel grateful that Youtube exists.
If I get something for backtracking I might do it myself depending on what the reward is.
Christopher Garcia
>do pacifist run, everyone wants to kill or capture you for Agore's plan
>strike first in self defense in genocide route
>"OMG YOU AREN'T HUMN YOU ARE A THREAT TO EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE"
Monsters deserve to die. Also upset Chara wins in the end instead you.
Jaxson Ward
It's fine if the game is built around it and the world is cool to traverse, e.g. Hollow knight.
Dylan Torres
I don't mind them as long as it was worth it. Backtracking secrets has always been a thing, see that secret cave in Quake leading to Ziggurat Vertigo.
Isaac Rivera
Wait a minute, that artist..
Nathaniel Jackson
>master1200
Dumb gay furry pedo
Lucas Allen
>force you
lazy
>has content that unlocks as you complete the story back in the previous zones that 99% of gamers will miss because to them it's just a video game and there's no reason the devs should have changed an NPC's dialogue in the starting village because the cousin of that NPC died in the war against the demon lord in the final act
soul
Dominic Perry
user don't worry about it, it's just in your imagination
Josiah Sanchez
I got warned for my wahoo thread
Juan Cook
>gay
Actually this artist draws Chara as a girl
Jaxon Howard
stop making WAHOO threads based WAHOO user
it might be time to quit
Cameron Nelson
You're still a homo
Kevin Miller
That wasn't me actually, that was another user.
Levi Watson
I can't quit
Not only do I love Klonoa, and feel that Yea Forums does him huge amounts of injustice, making me want to rebel, I also occasionally get a huge swell of emotion, desire for cute furry shotas, and I can't control myself
Nathaniel Moore
You're both homos
Isaac Clark
wow that was a surprisingly forthright answer but okay
Joshua Lewis
FF9 Nero Family
Angel Thomas
I don't understand how liking boys and girls kissing makes me a homo.
James Adams
GOD I CANT WAIT FOR THE REST OF DELTARUNE SO THAT I GET TO HUG THIS GOTE AGAIN
Alexander Flores
I'm gay and I love semi's asriel x chara art. Flat girls are aesthetically pleasing.
Jace Bennett
Probably yes but with what you are posting you are clearly as degenerate, you don't get patrician tastes like that by accident
Julian Fisher
user, I'm afraid Deltarune is going to ruin Asriel for us shota fans. He will be aged up from now on. Only tumblr fujos and the cringe type of furries like that stuff.
Robert Nguyen
I guess this stuff was more popular than I thought, or at least here.
Luke Thompson
Yea Forums has quite a solid furry shota community
Kevin Martinez
Did someone say goats?
Evan Evans
>no ring
Noah Ramirez
I'm surprised but I'm not shocked. But I specifically meant semi's art.
Then again some of his simplistic pieces are very stylistically appealing, for some reason I can't define with words.
Adrian Hall
>[Spoiler]Heh[/Spoiler]
Brody Ward
Asriel and Chara are best friends!
Aaron Watson
>us shota fans
dont just decide what i am
i love the gote in every form
Michael Carter
I often make threads with a semi asriel x chara pic with the text "Did they...?"
Perhaps you've seen one?
Noah James
...
Chase Cook
>Ruin.
You're kidding right?
>Aged up brother gote
>Shota wizard gote.
Both of these exist simultainiously.
Jacob Cooper
Really?
I'm not seeing it.
Michael Barnes
seeing shotas aged up hurts my heart, user
Also shota Asriel and shota Ralsei not existing simultaneously is a let down. Think of what that could entail.
Jaxson Reyes
>cringe type of furries
the self awareness of this post
Matthew Murphy
no but ive seen more than enough of their art to answer the question, i am a completely unrelated fan who has never seen such a thread
there are just more independent fans of it than we thought i guess
Gabriel Bell
I think you're forgetting about the possibility of getting flashbacks. If the scene is pronounced enough it would be enough incentive to get artists focused on doing both versions.
I think there will still be more artists than you think doing little asriel with ralsei since i can already tell you there is more images than you would expect and no i can't post them here
Jaxson Butler
I wish I was Chara
I would bully and tease Asriel 24/7
Jose Diaz
Ryan Ortiz
NO
You have to be very nice to him
Ian Richardson
user thats really lewd and you're gonna attract the mods..
Ian Bennett
do goats lay eggs?
Lucas Martinez
I think we might get 404'd for the 3rd time but I want you to know I love you all and I love Tails, Klonoa, Asriel, Ralsei and Gumball (I like human shotas too but this is not the subject at the moment)
NEVER STOP LOVING SHOTAS
Jace Anderson
Based mods
Bentley Brown
I want to bully and make him into my toy
I see nothing lewd in that picture
Austin Diaz
I did not mean to make a thread like this help. Undo. Delete.
Jason Gray
does asriel wear diapers?
Julian Myers
DELET
Thomas Cruz
I'd say its the mixture of cute, cartoonish simplicity contrasted against the primal sexuality of the contents. It's so unanticipated as to create an enormous gulf of violated expectations, but not too much as to be disgusting (unless you are already disgusted by loli/shota to begin with).
Charles Carter
It's just a little fun user, you have no sense of humor
William Butler
why is he so wide...?
Aiden King
He wouldn't and shouldn't wear diapers but maybe he still wets the bed sometimes embarrassingly
Kevin Gray
Henry Adams
That's not cute OR funny
Lucas Nguyen
Not fat enough.
Oliver Baker
GROSS
Jayden Hernandez
That's not cute OR funny
Kevin Powell
Asriel is always cute and funny
Wyatt Morales
Go wider why not
Daniel Jones
Asriel belongs to Chara, and is her toy that Chara is free to abuse
David Rogers
dangerously based but no more
Joseph Lee
Connor Jackson
only when he thinks no one else is awake
Adrian Cook
loli x shota, in fact all child_on_child, is the purest form of love. Semi's art is simple, but this helps to refine it down to it's base elements.
Noah Clark
Brandon Jenkins
BIGGER
Jack Young
Little goat is not for lewd you sick fucks
Adam Wood
Undertale is the type of game that can pull this off easily; because of it's meta-narrative and the fact that barely anyone will ever see all content. Be it unique dialogue in one of the 3 main paths, or let's even say just the hidden game data stuff.
Only if you are determined enough will you get to see everything. Backtracking can also elevate a game of "needless" content, if you want to appeal to various types of players. Some just want to play a game and get it done with. Others care more about lore and secrets. Backtracking and finding a person in an old place can give you the impression of a more alive world.
David Miller
Then why does he have a penis?
Aiden Myers
to pee with silly
Connor Lewis
oh right...
Adrian Perez
I thought monsters didn't have to go to the bathroom or is that just pooping?
Mason Smith
Don't post samples!
Juan Hughes
Carter Wood
God I wish I was a cute goate
Iam at point that I don’t even want to be human anymore
Haha I’m not only who feels like this right
Logan Bennett
e621 is being annoying again
Easton Evans
human life is boring. I wanna BE Asriel and get fucked by Chara every night
James King
>Those are tights instead of leggings
incredibly based
William Richardson
>those are tights and not leggings like i thought
incredibly based
Jace Nelson
>this thread
Gavin Morgan
I know right what kind of loser uses e621 instead of getting all the images from Pixiv at full quality
its sad really
Angel Carter
>this thread
Evan Myers
Metroid is a great positive example.
Hunter Davis
>pixiv
>in 2019
Everyone's moved to Twitter
Liam Anderson
>twitter
Everyone's moved to pawoo
Julian Cox
>open pawoo from google
>dont even log in
>immediately see this
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Parker Cook
yes
pedos are safe on pawoo until normalfags find it too, so keep it hushhush
Sebastian Cruz
>a $5 discount coupon has been transfered to your account
Jace Moore
And now the thread dies as everyone goes to pawoo.
amen
Xavier Hall
Requiescat in pawoo
Austin King
You wish.
Hardly anyone moved there.
Christopher Walker
RIP banned user
We will miss you
Zachary Sanders
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