>That PAX/E3 discussion on the latest podcast
Holy fuck they're so far up their own asses. They seriously think they're worthy of special treatment for being Z lister e-celebs. They've caught the "anyone who criticises me is just a troll, REAL fans love everything I do" disease too.
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Why are you such a drama queen, OP?
Are you a time traveller or what? SBFP isn't a thing anymore, but Castle Superbeast is
Same thing moron
Why do you care
Context?
>They've caught the "anyone who criticises me is just a troll, REAL fans love everything I do" disease too.
they've had that disease for at least 5 years now
Listen to the podcast
Fuck off
Guess I'll never know.
I really don't want to after Pat went off on his Ruroni Kenshin rant all because he was mad about a VA from his yakuza game getting busted for drugs a couple weeks back. Honestly they're so uppity and pretentious it's starting to make watching/hearing them a chore.
HAHAHA WHHYYY THE FUCK WOULDDD YOU EVER WATCH THIS SHIIITT
>They scream bloody murder about pedo pedo pedo kenshin pedo pedo
>I look up the story
>All the guy had was those bikini magazines
Jesus christ the way they were going on about it I thought he'd raped 50 children or something. Yeah I get it, they're prissy little Canacuck NPC's but it's fucking bikini magazines, the girls aren't being touched or raped or even posing all that provocatively.
I was more annoyed by Pat saying the dumbest shit constantly. You can see it in Woolie's reaction how awful pat's random inserts are. It was especially bad that episode. I want to strangle him when he interrupts woolie about checking his phone or something on his fucking phone. Woolie is wholesome though
Not him but there was actually some pretty sick shit if you look at some of the titles he purchased. Like there was legit CP.
Keep in mind though that CP wasn't illegal when he bought 90% of it.
How is it so hard for someone to just be disgusted by what Watsuki did but also like the work he created? It's not like he used child pornography as a source for his work like Rustle, it's a historical fiction story.
The weird thing was Pat seemed to be acting like because pedophelia is a bigger problem over there that they shouldn't also be strict on people who encourage and directly support the illegal drug market.
>How is it so hard for someone to just be disgusted by what Watsuki did but also like the work he created?
Because you can't virtue signal if you separate the artist from their art.
>Using a Super Best Friends image for the OP despite them being disbanded.
Every single thing they said about special treatment was explicitly tongue in cheek and youd have to be a complete brainlet to ignore them shitting on that exact sentiment.
1. He continued to purchase some of it when it was illegal 2. There is no grandfathering clause to the new law and those in possession of cp were given a full year of grace period to get rid of it.
Because some people are put off by the idea of financially supporying a pedophile by buying his stuff.
Child porn is higher priority than cocaine to prevent or prosecute.
>e-celebs
I'm starting to feel like Matt was the reason Pat and Woolie didn't go off the rails when SBFP was still a thing.
It may be higher priority here in the west, but it's not in there.
>>Child porn is higher priority than cocaine to prevent or prosecute.
Not in sunshine land :)
Honestly they're fine most of the time. All the stuff woolies does on his own channel has been pretty decent. And while I've stopped watching Pat's solo streams completely anything with paige in it is usually great. She's probably a better solo streamer than he is too.
The bigger problem is that Pat is hamstringing both the RE2 playthroughs and DMC5 playthroughs. In RE2 he couldn't let woolies go like a single room without going super in depth on mechanics that woolies could have figured out over time. Item management? Sure its woolies first real survival horror. A complete breakdown of zombie grab mechanics and the difficulty scaling system? Not fun to watch woolie not have to learn a single thing on his own. Then you have Pat playing DMC ahead of woolie and being that guy they complain about during the Sin DT reveal. Wish we could have seen the moment where both of them see DSD or virgil for the first time but I guess not.
Above all else though, the number one thing that's still rubbing me the wrong way is that persona shit from a few months ago. Everywhere I saw was calling them out for that dumb shit and on the podcast they never mention it but they do get passive aggressive over it. Woolie then mentions on a later podcast that he feels like he feels like he can't even talk about certain things because of it, but I dont remember what exactly they were talking about
Woolie isnt that bad, hes just a weird fighting game nig. Pat on the other hand I think might be schizophrenic or something because he is losing his marbles by the day
>Because some people are put off by the idea of financially supporying a pedophile by buying his stuff.
Ignroing that the money directly goes to the publishing company and not him, I'm simply exchanging currency for a product. What a creator does with that money is out of my control, just like how I have no power over what my taxes pay for. For that matter, every author does something that others would find distasteful. Should we not consume any media created by people we don't agree with? If that was the case then I'd never have read anything by Orson Scott Card or HP Lovecraft or Robert E. Howard or hell, even Oscar Wilde. I'd have never seen Chinatown or Annie Hall, I never would've listened to Varg's music (because of the murder and burning churches part, not the retarded nordic wewuzzing part), I never would have any interest in art at all because most art is made by degenerates. Degerates with a gift.
Someone doing something I am personally disgusted with doesn't mean they can't create something beautiful.
>still using ancient ass art
>Hate when pat HAS to rant about weird/disturbing themes with no one to dial him down
>Hate when woolie HAS to rant about his hipster/high skill tastes with no one to dial him down
Maybe the real reason matt got tired of SBFP was having to put a stop to these two shitbirds from going off all the time
Its really tiring hearing woolie's hipster indie shit and FGCmania and pats cynicism and nihilism everyone damn podcast episode
The persona shit is what made me drop them completely. It made me bring into question all of Pat's credibility in what games he actually plays because of the amount of blatant shit he got completely wrong about Persona 4. To top it off it just came off as something that doesn't need to be discussed in a podcast that is meant to simulate a couch setting. A better discussion would have been "Is it okay to fuck the mermaid in dragons crown."
>Not fun to watch woolie not have to learn a single thing on his own.
He wouldn't have learned it if it wasn't spelled out to him.
>I think might be schizophrenic
>I think
>might
There is no questions or hesitation. He IS.
>She's probably a better solo streamer than he is too.
>4 and a half hour stream
>1 hour of reading donations before gameplay
>1 hour of gameplay
>2 and a half hours of reading donations after
She's a terrible streamer, Pat is insane but at least tries to play the game, he needs a wrangler though
Maybe that explains why Matt became such a massive pissbaby, he had to deal with them everyday.
Pat and Woolie might go off the rails, but at least they still are actually interested in video games.
This
At least I hear about Sekiro and DMC and not about shitty horror movies and fucking cereal.
give me the rundown of that persona 4 podcast
>Above all else though, the number one thing that's still rubbing me the wrong way is that persona shit from a few months ago. Everywhere I saw was calling them out for that dumb shit and on the podcast they never mention it but they do get passive aggressive over it. Woolie then mentions on a later podcast that he feels like he feels like he can't even talk about certain things because of it, but I dont remember what exactly they were talking about
They can't talk about it because they have trans friends irl that will basically ostracize them if they backtrack on what they said.
KANJI IS GAY AND NAOTO IS TRANS, IT'S JUST THAT JAPAN WAS TOO COWARDLY TO JUST SAY IT
>In RE2 he couldn't let woolies go like a single room without going super in depth on mechanics that woolies could have figured out over time.
Woolie wouldnt figure out shit in his own, he stated at the map for a fucking half hour and couldn't figure out how to get back from the clock tower to the basement garbage
He literally had his cursor over the stair case, going back and forth between map levels, and couldnt figure out what route to take
And you know what Pat did? He sat there quietly letting Woolie take his time to figure it out, not giving him direct game advice, and why did he do that? Because retards like you would complain that he was telling Woolie what to do and not letting him figure it out on his own when Woolie has shown time and again for fucking years that he needs his hand held through games
>ignoring a false and idiotic statement
Dont mind if I do.
>every author
Most authors dont buy child porn, not sure what your idiotic statement here is supposed to mean.
>should we not
We shouldnt pay them. When you get found out as a pedophile your income should be relegated to being a janitor at a box factory, and their created content should become public domain.
>They can't talk about it because they have trans friends irl that will basically ostracize them if they backtrack on what they said.
Who exactly wants to be friends with people like that?
Ever since woolie started to rely on pat to get him through a game that doesn't really explain what everything does (dark souls) he started to lose his grip on basic game play knowledge
Why does Liam barely stream now?
>"So me and the missus went downtown for my cats borfday this week and we went to a cereal bar downtown called "Gamur Lounge", and I dont know if you guys know this but America has so much better cereal than Canada. So we ate Oops only Marshmallows cereal and played Secret Hitler. Then we took another vacation and watched shitty movies. That was my week"
Because literally nobody gives a shit about him and he destroyed his rep by bagging on Pat when the channel ended.
>downtown
*on his sixth vacation that month to another country
It's like you've never listened to the podcast.
mayve another ANXIETY and DEPRESSION attack
I disagree, because unless you have actually molested a child, you have not committed a crime. If anything you're choosing an outlet to not do that.
>b-but you're enabling an industry that does
Yes, and why aren't you trying to go after that industry harder? This is like wasting time punishing drug users instead of the suppliers.
Its like you didnt read the rest of my comment.
Eat shit and die woolie, you'll never escape it
Motherfucker if they get stuck at a puzzle or if pat saves woolie from missing something like the shotgun key card helping is totally fine. Taking five steps, seeing a zombie down the hallway, pausing, and getting Pat to explain EVERY SINGLE GRAB MECHANIC, in addition to explaining how damage values work, critical hits work, etc is terrible to watch. Not to mention that the game deliberately obfuscates them from you because after you learn the rules it turns into an action game.
>B-B-BUT, B-B-B-BUT, BUT-BUT B-B-BUT RED ORB G-G-GO DOWN
>YOU DON'T SHOOT IT
>YOU DON'T SHOOT IT
>YOU DON'T SHOOT IT
is the spirit of matt possessing pat or something?
>Release 20 episodes of DMC5 on release day
Nice
>Take over a month to slowly release videos since Pat was too lazy to come over and finish it in couple sessions
Not Nice
>Woolie is on controls for most of it
Actual Trash
I was just listening to the podcast and unless I misheard them they literally said the opposite of what you are claiming. Unless you are saying that them discussing the time they got early passes 5 years ago or that certain developers came up to woolie to shoot the shit with him. That isn't demanding preferential treatment.
Wait what was the persona stuff?
Woolie was like that before though, he just freezes up when any sort of exploration is required and will sit around in one spot out of fear of missing something
I have a theory he has a deep seated fear of change due to how his mother sprung the move to Grenada on him while they were boarding the plane
>When you get found out as a pedophile your income should be relegated to being a janitor at a box factory, and their created content should become public domain.
Right because that's not a system begging to be abused. We totally didn't see with the #MeToo movement that you can destroy someone's life over false accusations. As for their content becoming public domain, by whose authority? The state's? You want to give them the right to seize someone's property and make it free? What's to stop them from extending it to any lesser crime? Hell what's to stop them from doing it to anyone that disagrees with the status quo? That's too much power in a small group's hands.
I'm surprised Mr. Port and Starboard can even find the studio to record the pod. Pat might not know his shit as well as he thinks he does, but he does at least promote progression.
They actually know better with Persona because they've actually argued the opposite (and correct) interpretation before that goes against tranny/fag wishful thinking back when it wasn't so unfashionable to say it.
So they're just frauds, like Jim Jeffries.
Maybe I'm just being naive here, but how the hell do you get anxiety from a job where the only thing you have to do is sit on a couch and play video games and have fun and be mildly entertaining? It's not like he's a doctor or a lawyer or a soldier or something. If he fucks up there's literally zero consequences other than looking a bit silly for a few moments. How do you get stressed when your entire job entails doing de-stressing activities? That's like saying the guy who tests how comfy beds are to sleep in gets really stressed out about his job.
Everyone recognises it instantly, why do you give a fuck about shilling their new trash?
Basically a big long back and forth about how Naoto and Kanji are trans and gay respectively, but Japan just wasn't ready for it so they dialed it back. I'm assuming that people told them how that shit was dumb so now they just kind of pussyfoot around talking about that.
I want Reggie on some more anime bullshit.
I never minded Liam all that much. He's been the start of many great conversations on the podcast, he was great when all four of them were together, and he's got some great shit with Matt. But that tweet and everything that came after it sourmed me really hard on him.
It's not even those things that bug me so much. The number one thing that annoyed me from that was them saying "The most interesting thing Kanji can do is be gay" completely missing his ENTIRE character arc
Its better than Woolie sitting on the map screen for an hour because he's scared of Mr X and doesn't know how to proceed, at least Pat is providing information that moves shit a long when the alternative is Woolie doing literally nothing and making the excuse "I can't make progress because I don't know how things work" which he has done multiple times before
You vastly overestimate Woolies ability to figure shit out on his own, it already took him 9 fucking hours just to reach the sewer, imagine how much longer that would be without Pat
imposter syndrome. You begin to get attention and suddenly spend every moment waiting for the day when these thousands of people see you for what you really are, an imposter/fake.
People with poor self image have no business being famous
>defending pedophilia
off yourself
I like how that never stops him from saying the most asinine shit with no regard.
Is Paige in any of Pat's DMC/Sekiro/VTMB streams? Cause she's annoying as fuck and ruins a lot of streams.
Let's just abandon all hope of rehabilitating a person who looked at a type of porn then.
Of course there should be repercussions for enabling something that is exploiting and hurting children, jail exists for a reason, but after that you still have the right to lead a normal life just like a murderer who served his sentence.
If you were an artist, you remain an artist and do the same. You will have more problems selling your product or getting people to finance you, but nothing should force you to live like shit for the rest of your life.
Generally they're fine outside of virtue signalling, but Woolie getting so passive-aggressive any time anyone says anything to him is starting to get irritating.
He got his modicum of success riding others coat tails and then folded. He is just naturally doomed to fail.
If I want to give money to a pedo because I like the work he creates, I should have the right to, it's a free market. It's not like the thing he's making is child porn.
No I'm defending a manga that has nothing to do with pedophilia.
Literally just stage fright, probably coupled with shit talking online.
Basically it's if your job was to get overly invested in Yea Forums and Liam let it really get to him.
just because he didn't actual touch a child doesn't mean it's not bad.
Easy Allies and Giant Bomb also do that as well. They complain about E3 letting people in so they have to wait in lines longer.
Like fuck off, games media would not change a bit without gaymen journos writing a paragraph about the new Zelda game. We can all watch trailers online now. Their opinions are worthless in this age.
Explain how. Nothing he did directly caused the harming of a child. The industry that makes this sick shit exists regardless of whether or not he individually bought it, and those are the people the authorities should be focusing entirely on.
Woolie and Pat have a lot of awful shit about them in terms of sharing opinions about stuff outside video games or media in general, but at least they're honest about what they're passionate about and don't really just jump on popular shit for the sake of it, which was the whole appeal of the original SBF thing. Could be worse, I say. They could have switched to being about politics and talking about ORANGE MAN BAD or some shit.
They're both leafs, so I give them small passes on stuff like that because they literally don't know any better.
>Literally just stage fright, probably coupled with shit talking online.
Getting stage fright and not being able to deal with shit-talking online when your entire job is to be an online persona is like being a tightrope walker with vertigo.
Woolie's gameplay is serviceable, which is surprising for someone who claims to love the games so much and the fact he just went through DMC4 again in recent memory.
That raw Vergil reveal reaction today was enjoyable though.
Didn't they literally make that joke?
He is a real try hard when it comes to his public image. He wants the Brennan Williams-like cred, but can't cope with detractors.
>Pat goes to E3 and is reeeeing inside his head at all the normal people there because Pat's there "To work"
>Work
>Plays video games for a living
>Thinks going to E3 is working
>Thinks all the plebs should be kicked out so he can "work" in peace
>and don't really just jump on popular shit for the sake of it
They still do that.
You are factually wrong.
It's just Pat hating that there are other people where he wants to go because he doesn't like people and would rather be a hikki all day.
Do you have any evidence to this
I have no doubt about them debating the correct intended interpretation but we almost a decade worth of material of these guys so yeah...
Dude he was joking.
I feel bad when people rip into matt, I can't hate him because I only started getting into berserk, which is the greatest story ever told, because he kept sucking it off on a regular basis.
I'd like Vinny to come back on the podcast so he can discuss DMC with Pat and Woolie again.
>Chrono Trigger lp
>Matt: Golden rule, never listen to anything Woolie says about video games
>Pat: That's a good rule
Woolie is bad at shit that's not fighting games, I get it. I watched the Bloodborne lp live and it made me just go out to get it myself, so I remember.
I would still rather watch him try and fuck up in entertaining ways with Pat helping him afterwards rather than Pat beating him over the head with every mechanic in the game.
Nah, seems some of the good old fashioned criticism and slander got to her
I think she finally made a onscreen apperance after months of offscreen commentary
He's busy retweeting good content
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Except it didn't come across as a joke
It's a law that makes no sense, like the illegality of prostitution. It's why it wasn't illegal there until so recently that the majority of Yea Forums was alive when it was legal. I'm not going to say it's victimless, that's loli, but attacking a consumer isn't going to make it go away. It's just a high profile case used to pad the police department's internal rating.
The Chrono Trigger LP was great and comfy.
Why is this trash allowed on Yea Forums?
Going back through old LPs is genuinely sad to listen to since they sounded like they really enjoyed working together and playing games. The Brawls being a really big one for this.
I never saw them as "muh fake internet friends" but I can't help feeling sad about how everything turned out.
>liam is trans
did you miss the part they talked about in the podcast where he sold everyone he knew out and they used that info to go after the dealers
>Pat says he wished for years for a con that catered to gamers instead of press, then when he became press it was too late...Gamers rose up
It came across pretty jokey.
>TRANNIES GOOD
>RELIGION BAD
>ISLAM IS OKAY, THOUGH.
They are everything wrong with Canada.
The industry only exists if there's a lucrative incentive for doing so.
These people aren't jannies. There would quite literally be no reason to do it if there wasn't money involved.
What
Yeah, often makes me think what really made the truning point but really the writing was in the wall since 2014 their content became less enjoyable with every new LP or event they put out
No, he wasn't
It's Canada, they would probably get arrested if they didn't agree with this.
>rather watch him try and fuck up in entertaining ways
That's the problem, he doesnt fuck up in entertainment ways, he just sits there doing nothing and when he finally takes one step forward he immediately takes two steps back
It's not like he's Pat who will talk a bunch of shit about how good he's doing and then immediately get kicked in the balls by his own hubris
I really wish they did more random survival horror games. Those are genuinely my favorite things they've done, whether its the Silent Hill 2 one with tons of trivia or something like Escape from big island which is filled to the brim with stupid shit
I didn't listen to the podcast so no I didn't know they talked about that part. Either way why is that a problem, it actually helps go after the source. I hope Pat didn't give him shit about that considering Pat's rule has always been to squeal.
>The industry only exists if there's a lucrative incentive for doing so.
That's literally every industry ever. Find me an industry that exists entirely without the profit motive. Even nonprofit businesses exist in industries built around profit.
Either way, I still stand by my stance here . Roman Polanski fucking a 13 year old girl in the ass (so unlike Watsuki, actually raping a child) does not change that Chinatown is a masterpiece everyone should see.
This is a retarded argument made for virtue signalling anyway because no one pays for anime, we pirate it regardless.
Pat doesn't like horror games, he's a big baby.
>When you get found out as a pedophile your income should be relegated to being a janitor at a box factory
Or they should just be hanged.
It's because in other genres, he can't pick bosses or characters that rely on sweeps and mashing.
You are aware of why CP is illegal in the first place, right?
Punishing a pedophile that has not actually had sex with a child is literally thoughtcrime.
I'm aware, I just think that possession shouldn't be a crime, merely the creation and distribution of. You know, how the law worked less than 20 years ago.
Your first stance we agree on, it's the part about the CP industry that's just factually wrong.
He didn't harm a child, but he gave money to people that directly do as a job, that's still pretty bad.
You have CP don't you
It's the only time thoughtcrime is acceptable.
No, I merely take the same stance on it that I do with drugs.
Thoughtcrime is literally never acceptable.We only jail people for their actions. Thoughts cannot harm anyone, no matter how disagreeable we might believe those thoughts to be.
If you believe people should be jailed for their thoughts, how about that other guy over there who believes that people who think people should be jailed for their thoughts should themselves go to jail? How would you like to be jailed for that thought?
Being a pedo, even one who fucks kids, isn't that big a deal.
Normalfags act like it's the worst thing in the world solely because no matter how scummy, disgusting or pathetic you are "at least I'm not a PEDO". If it was up to me, the money spent on hunting them down would go into financing treatment and preventative measures.
Chasing after pedo's is like chasing after serial killers, it's closing the barn doors after the horse has bolted. We should be working on creating a world where these people never come into existence in the first place, instead of punishing them for the failures of society. Plenty of pedo's started out being molested themselves, they're not just born evil.
Punishing a person that invests in an industry which is powered by the abuse of minors is not a thought crime. Wanking to a story or drawn picture is one thing, but when an actual person is involved with the product, it is an actual problem.
He was getting all his information from chat, who was posting shit like "He had hundreds of gigs of hardcore CP on his hard drive!" which were outright lies. They got a bunch of e-mails correcting them and giving the story more context, but by then they had already made up their minds. It doesn't help that they can't see past their own cultural bias and don't realize that Canada is as absurdly draconian when it comes to the sexualization of minors as Japan is with drugs, whether you agree or disagree that one is worse than the other. Other countries don't have to worry about going to jail for admitting on camera that they think Marie-Rose from Dead or Alive is attractive.
It seems like you don't understand just how awful pedophilia is. Why are you so adamant on defending it? Are you perhaps, a pedophile yourself? Hmm...
Possession of it enables both of those things you moron.
Dude who cares how the law was, we are going forward for a reason.
Why should we only prosecute the people creating and distributing? It's not mutually exclusive, we can and should prosecute people possessing literal terabytes of CP who are giving money to these people, thus enabling and supporting their actions.
And this is all ignoring how morally and ethically disgusting this product is.
>mother fuckers actually trying to defend people that support child abusers and how "it's that not that bad" and "reeeeeeee thought crime, I dindu nuffin"
Delete /pol/ when
>They seriously think they're worthy of special treatment for being Z lister e-celebs.
>says the guy making an off-topic thread about them on Yea Forums
>fucking kids is society's fault
Found the retard
But this is where they are fucking wrong about naoto and kanji
Im talking WAY back if they were correctly talking about the character arcs of those two characters
>we are going forward for a reason
Because western society is currently swinging towards emotional, touchy feely leftyism on the pendulum of time. "Progress" isn't always progress.
Are you really advocating ignoring serial killers in favor of mental health programs in an argument to defend pedophilia?
It literally is though.
The law states you can't be punished for your crimes if you're not mentally capable of understanding what you did was wrong. So there's a common consensus that on some level, society creates criminals.
We live in a society where wanting to fuck children is wrong. Gamers need to band together to rise up.
>Yea Forums defending pedophilia
Can this board get any worse? What happened to old Yea Forums where we always shit on you fuckers?
Oh fuck off with the politics bullshit, if there's one thing every side can agree one it's that diddling kids is wrong.
Go back to your point and try to defend your bullshit view.
I'm saying we should be looking into how to stop serial killers from being created in the first place, instead of just playing a never ending game of cleaning up after them.
What?
Yea Forums was always pro loli you normalfag mongoloid. Fuck off.
>You know, how the law worked less than 20 years ago
In 1999? I'm pretty sure you're still fucked even back then, bud.
Pedophilia is worse than murder, and that's a fucking fact. Even the most hardcore cold blooded killers look down on pedophiles.It's why they're on the bottom of the food chain in prison.
>Woolie mentions he really likes using Faust, and that using Red Orbs to attack isn't a big deal because it's a useless currency once you have all the upgrades, and using it correctly gives you ten times the returns anyway
>"B-b-but... it makes the number go down..."
I'm a hoarder in games too, but that's some next level bullshit.
I'm convinced that Pat's fans are contrarians who think they're smart. He has the laziest fucking streams of anyone I've ever fucking seen and his smug, holier-than-thou attitude is unbearable. Especially when he's fucking wrong so often.
And don't say I'm a Matt fag because he sucks ass too, same with Liam. Woolie is the only tolerable one. Pat's a fucking cunt.
>if there's one thing every side can agree one it's that diddling kids is wrong
I disagree
It's just sex, the only people it fucks in the head mentally were weak wrecks of human beings to begin with.
>loli threads get deleted on sight
>pro loli
lol
>don't kill all the niggers
>you're nigger aren't you?
If pedos didn't believe what they did was wrong, they wouldn't be hiding it. I don't see any Nambla pride parades.
>MUH TRANS FRIENDS
>I DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE GAME OR WHAT THE GAMES DIRECTOR SAYS, MUH TRANS FRIENDS SAID THEY WANT IT TO BE THIS WAY SO I HAVE TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL ME TO BELIEVE
Is someone really your friend if you constantly have to walk on eggshells around them, careful not to express the wrong opinion lest they blow up and ruin your life?
I think they were mostly just shit talking. Pat's also a dwarf, so take being around humans as a racial issue. Honestly, no more of them LPing a game Pat's been through months in advance. That's no good. Especially not something as huge to them as DMC. Woolie should have made plans, called his GF, gym, etc. and let them know he was pulling a seriously long work day. Sit down, grind out ten hours nonstop with Pat. Solemnly swear neither of you will go any further than where you stopped recording. Week after that, since they had over a week of press copy advantage, you do another ten hours and have likely wrapped it all up. Now you have a genuine LP that people give a shit about. Also, RE2 is just bad. I'd hate to watch Woolie play Titanfall. Jesus.
>Pedophilia is worse than murder
No it's not. Nothing is worse than death.
>Even the most hardcore cold blooded killers look down on pedophiles
Yeah...like I said. Even scum want's to feel like they're better than someone. Doesn't make it true. I'd take a pedo over a killer as a roomate.
We're pro /ss/, get it right.
By this logic I shouldn't pay taxes because my country kills people oversees without my permission that is funded with the money I give them, which I find morally reprehensible. You could say I have no choice in the matter, but the fact is I could always just not pay my taxes.
Either way you motherfuckers are ignoring the entire point, whether or not Watsuki is a pedo does not affect critical analysis of Rurouni Kenshin because the manga is not about pedophilia, not that this argument isn't retarded anyways because this is a medium where everyone pirates the product and the creator doesn't get paid for your support of it.
The userbase is pro loli, the normalfag mods are gonna normalfag it up.
These are the same people that kill themselves when somebody calls them the "wrong" pronoun and surgically give themselves an open wound to feel normal. You HAVE to walk on eggshells around them.
>pedophile = child abusers
Wowee lad, you can stop being retarded already.
Pat's pretty alright when retards try to throw down with him on twitter. Like in the recent accessibilityvs difficulty thing a few days ago.
>Get forcefully castrated, thrown in prison or killed for being a pedo
>DUDE WHY YOU HIDING IT THOUGH
Okay you're either baiting, a sociopath or just plain stupid.
Either way, discussing this further is a waste of my time if you believe this
>I don't see any Nambla pride parades.
Sure you do, they're called gay pride parades.
>I'd hate to watch Woolie play Titanfall. Jesus.
Watching him play Apex was physically painful.
>actually watching fat, ugly, take friend substitutes/online babysitters
Fucking christ you people are pathetic
Yeah, that's what bothers me. Kanji might be gay, he might not be. That's not the point. The point is that he doesn't HAVE to be one or the other, he doesn't HAVE to label himself as anything just because he has interests that don't align with one particular, rigid identity over another. His whole character arc was about him learning that he has to accept all aspects of himself, and help other people come to understand him better. Going, "Oh, he's just gay and won't admit it," was the fucking START of his identity crisis in the first place!
How bout we do both and not throw our hands up in the air while Jack over there gets handsy with little timmy. We can have compassion for other people while realizing that they are doing real harm to others that needs to be prevented.
If you can't handle the fact that other people have wildly different thoughts and beliefs, then you should shut the fuck up.
Did they even fucking hit Mr X in RE2 yet? They were like 20 videos in or some shit and weren't even close.
There is no fucking way I'm ever watching another fucking Pat stream again. Fuck the Yea Forumsirgin who told me LOL JUST SKIP THE DONATIONS, that ginger nigger is constantly pausing to squint at chat.
You aren't a child though. Would you rather have a killer as a roommate, or a pedo as your kids new father? That is a better comparison situation.
Woolie has to many things going on, I think it's a manifestation of his anxiety and the sbfp channel ending, he wants a bunch of back up plans all at once in case any one thing goes wrong but the quality of what he does suffers across the board
what's the context
no one has given actual context
BUT WE AGREE ON THAT POINT
Yes we should separate art from artist, everyone agrees here. The art doesn't change at all.
You moved the argument in a stupid direction and we are telling you how fucking dumb that is. Just admit that possessing it and buying it is still bad.
It's not like our society actively hunts, baits and punishes people with legitimate mentall illness. Pedophile rarely a child molester, but always punished as such if found out
Currently what's being done is a modern day witch hunt.
I'd rather have both options, but in a choice between "save little timmy" or "pursue research to save infinite little timmy's" I'll choose the latter.
>Yes we should separate art from artist, everyone agrees here. The art doesn't change at all.
That was literally the first thing I said, and it was immediately replied to with >defending pedophilia
Gay people had all the same things happen to them for ages. Didn't stop them.
Give them a break, they're both too stupid to understand anything besides the first, baseline interpretation of anything.
>Would you rather have a killer as a roommate, or a pedo as your kids new father?
Why would I have a kid? Why would my kid have a "new" father? Why would this ever be a choice anyone has to make?
There isn't any, OP is just making shit up
Nothing he's said is based on something they said in the podcast
To be fair you started defending pedophilia really hard
literally've whomst've
I love Woolie and Pat but Woolie and Reggie LPs are the hot shit.
>Gay people had all the same things happen to them for ages. Didn't stop them.
It did for almost all of human history, up until like 25 years ago retard.
I thik they're all fine in their own ways and that for the most part their egos have gotten too big but god damn, that motherfucker cannot into 3D space. Does he just see life as a 2D plane? Does left just mean back to him and right forward? Fuck me, the way he actively struggles to just fucking point at things make me worried about how he'd handle a kitchen knife. I do miss Liam being the only one who could cook, though. Woolie fucking nukes chicken tit to cook it.
Killer hands down.
>I'd hate to watch Woolie play Titanfall.
He did a stream of it when apex was announced
Spoilers: He was awful at it, like really bad, like "spend a entire match without a earning a kill" kind of bad
For someone who looks down on FPS's that dont have certain gameplay mechanics, woolie is really shit at them
RIP in piss
all of the content has been better without Matt
Woolies other friends need to see a speech therapist or something
Well I'm not a typical Yea Forumsirgin who spends all my time browsing twitter and reddit, sorry.
You got me there. Just recently learned about child drag queens. Dressing a boy up as a cartoonishly sexualized girl is now empowering.
Because you got me on a tangent. My point in is that you can be a disgusting reprehensible person and still create something beautiful that is worth praising. I'm not the one here saying "no, you can't do that because then they'll use that money to support CP". Yeah and Orson Scott Card uses his earnings to support Mormon shit I don't agree with, I still like Ender's Game.
Pat
>4 hour long stream of him reading chat, talking to his dumb, annoying cunt of a gf and not playing video games
Woolie
>Everything he puts out has some fucking unintelligible ESL with a nasally voice and no sense of humour running their mouth non stop
This is the worst timeline
I don't understand how people still like Pat, all streamers are shit but he's seriously the worst type.
>Reads donations half the stream
>Reads even more donations when people say he should play the game because he's so far up his ass
>"Sorry guys I feel kinda tired no stream today" twice a week
He clearly stopped doing anything for his health too, at least Woolie is getting fit. For a guy that talks this much about not wanting to die Pat is doing anything he can to die in his 40s.
>inb4 Patdrones reply with "Go away Matt/Liam"
You guys just like him because he's just as much of a fat asshole like you but has a hot gf.
When was the last time anyone here even attended a pride parade? They're tame as fuck and mostly used to promote local businesses and shit. Feel free to post /pol/tard replies to blow me out though.
>Does he just see life as a 2D plane?
Well he is a fighting game born and raised
>75% of the podcast is Woolie PAX talk
It was okay at first, but nigga needed to move on.
how the fuck did he score that gf
was it the money
>unironically not liking Paige
Paige is going to die before Pat. Maybe that's why he doesn't car.e
>you got me on a tangent.
Not that user, just someone else commenting on how weird your pro possessing child porn stance was
Oh my god please learn how to read.
It's the SECOND point we have problems with.
SECOND, 2, II, got it?
The one about possession of CP and acquiring it.
fucking idiot. Life is the one thing we have that matters. Trust, faith, innocence, your butt virginity, none of that shit matters if you're dead.
It's a fucking hypothetical. I'm just trying to put both groups in position where they are potentially at their most dangerous to weigh which is more harmful.
>Why does this gaming podcast discuss the second biggest gaming event of the year?
Please don't bully the French Canadians. Also I experienced extreme culture shock during the Jet Set Radio LP when Reggie said nigga. I had to pause the video for a second because up until that point I had no idea he was black too.
>tfw you can't rely on voices anymore to identify your fellow black men.
The state doest owe you SHIT, especially when you directly enable something this illegal and immoral. You pay taxes because you choose to abide by the laws of the land and be a functional member of society (which I honestly doubt you even are) rather than living on a deserted island. This is nowhere near comparable.
>don't talk about all the upcoming games you got hands on experience with at a gaming convention while recording your fucking gaming podcast
Nigger what
Completely spot on. Not to mention that combined with his relationship with his mother (and his father to an extent) and how it forms his ideas on masculinity is the best bit of writing in that game, if not the series. That third persona evolution scene for Kanji is goddamn amazing.
She's an escort.
>Pat and Woolie would defend this and praise it as progressive but call Marie Rose in DOA disgusting pedophilia and demand it be censored
Liberalism is a hell of a drug. And the entire country of canada is high out of their minds on it.
You type like someone not from here. Either way, the only reason I started defending the second point was because people kept using it to justify not supporting the first.
/ss/ is based though! That's their logic.
I don't disagree but at least I'm not a fucking hypocrite.
Yup. Personally I find the KANJI IS STRAIGHT, DEAL WITH IT fags just as obnoxious as the other camp. If anything it makes sense for Kanji to be bi. The point is that it doesnt matter and its about him accepting himself. This makes the storyline resonate with everyone. Its literally the best character arc in the game.
The point I'm trying to convey is that if they feel like a persecuted group being unfairly targeted, they should try to do what the gay community has done instead of hiding it. Not that any of this argument matters since all of this is a derailment of an e-celeb cancer thread.
This is both true and incredibly sad.
But what if i'm a necro. Butt virginity would be pretty sweet on a fresh corpse
If he spent any longer talking about meeting people, I'd have been pissed, but talking about upcoming games he got hands-on with and was excited about was a perfectly reasonable use of time. It's a video game podcast.
>Marie Rose
Bad example since she was explicitly designed to appeal to a certain demographic
Been here for more than 5 years, I mostly lurk but I write however I want. I have no reason to adapt my writing style to this place.
Also, if it looks weird it's probably because English isn't my first language.
Anyway good, after listening to what we told you about the second point, has your view changed in any way?
>The state doest owe you SHIT
Not him but it literally does because of the constitution. The entire point of the document is "these are the things the government can't take away from you and the restrictions on its authority"
Actually mentally ill + fetish for tiny bald gingers.
Could also easily die at any moment, I don't recommend falling in love with a timebomb.
It would be if I cared about Pat as a person. Its sad for Paige though, she doesn't deserve to die so early.
To say otherwise is literally criminal in Canada.
I dont particularly care for either of them that much, but you know that she's the best thing in his life and he'll completely die inside as a person when she's gone
Paige go down, depression go up
Do you know what a tax is? Or what purpose it serves? You, as a citizen, are explicitly owed something in return for paying tax. Whether it be of real value or not is debatable but tax is not theft for that precise reason.
On a different note, has Liam finally come to terms with his streaming career? I'll miss him playing smaller Japanese titles.
When you put it that way it couldn't happen soon enough. Then he can live out his Silent Hill 2 fantasy life that he always wanted.
He was, and you have aspergers if you can't realise that for yourself.
She's 18 in the games though right? I have a girl in my extended family who is super petite at like 4 1/2 feet, she looks super young but is in her mid 20s. She's dating a dude who is like 7 feet tall. It's why the whole anime "I'm actually 1000 years old" shit never bugged me, cause I've seen that in real life
Tax isn't theft it's extortion.
Paige and Pat have an "open relationship" aka "Pat's so desperate for a Stacy gf he's fine with sharing her with other men".
Paige has a cock in every port, it's why she travels all the time. I've never met her but I know EXACTLY how she justifies being a whore "OH WOE IS ME AND MY DISEASED FRAIL BODY I'LL DIE YOUNG I HAVE TO LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST NOW SO THAT MEANS I'M NOT A WHORE WHO SLEEPS WITH DOZENS OF MEN I'M JUST A POOR LITTLE DYING GIRL".
I love how Pat utterly outed himself as never having played P3P the last time they talked about it, despite gushing about the FeMC on every occasion, by mentioning how Kenji's S. Link is so different when playing as her. Nigga, he's not even the Magician as FEMC, Junpei is.
Who's gonna be the brave user to write the letter from his dead wife?
>Anyway good, after listening to what we told you about the second point, has your view changed in any way?
No. Because I refuse to stop liking something just because of what the creator does with my money after I have purchased their product. That's no longer my concern, the money has already changed hands and I receieved the product I desired. It's not the moral responsibility of the customer on what the business does with their money.
Paige has no redeeming qualities.
The only reason anyone claims to like Paige is because she makes your peepee hard. It's pathetic.
I'll do it, I don't like Pat anyways.
>make thread about literally who ecelebs
>complain they think people know who they are
That doesn't make it ok. If you're attracted to a body of a child even if she's 18+ it's still creepy as fuck and problematic.
Unfortunately I'd hoped they would be better thanks to the break up but for some reason despite doing worse than before their egoes have gotten even bigger than before and they're really full of shit.
So you shouldn't be allowed to fuck flat chicks? Ok Australia?
Do you even link with Kenji as FeMC? I don't even remember that.
Besides not like I would want to, I want to hang out with the chad from the student council.
>Paigefags actually exist
I thought this was a joke.
Its just that Pat is such a terrible streamer that she looks better by comparison.
Also she made SJWs mad so you have the incel crowd praising her.
whats wrong with her?
>Being attracted to a girl in her mid 20s is problematic
Are you for real? What the fuck is she supposed to do, never get with anyone because you think its creepy?
I don't know if i'd disagree, though i'm sure cleverer people than I could make an argument about how extortion requires all parties to owe and be owed something. Say, blackmail not being released, "protection" not turning on you, legs remaining unbroken, etc.
I get the feeling he did mention somethimg about that but i'd take your word for it over mine. I personally never finished P3:FES because I chose hard mode and I hated the time limit. I got far, too.
Some artery in her neck or something that if she turns her head too quickly it'll kill her. Also lupus.
Okay this is not going anywhere, let me try this another way
Should a person who acquired CP, paying money for it, be prosecuted?
This guy is not an artist, you don't know him, he has no relation to you.
It's just a guy who bought CP and didn't do anything else with a real kid.
>super petite at like 4 1/2 feet,
That's not petite user, that's dwarfism
Australia is founded by criminals. They are just hyper sensitive to reawakening those tendencies.
Some medical problem. She can't have kids iirc. Its 4 AM and my brain is fried, someone help me out and say what's wrong with her.
>238 replies
>67 posters
>finds people with a body of a literal child attractive
Yikes. Just yikes.
>This guy is not an artist, you don't know him, he has no relation to you.
Then that's an entirely different scenario because I have no incentive to give him money.
Why do people hate paige so much? Sure she's ditsy at points but she seems like she's genuinely nice and she great to watch. She was fantastic on the last SBFP podcast too
Wow how dare people reply more than once, don't they know Yea Forums is meant to be used for mobilefags to shitpost?
>your peepee go hard for lookingvat children
>it makes me fell bad
>you should be jailed for life or killed
JUSTICE
Too busy starting to transition to Mila
Lupus is the main thing
She made Matt upset so she's okay with me.
He really has only himself to blame. He clearly didn't think about how bad that would look and then tried to drag Woolie in for damage control.
There are hundreds (thousands?) of people on this very board who are interested in video games and I don't have an ounce of respect for a single fucking one of you.
She's proportional though, not stumpy oversized parts like you see in movies. Maybe 4'6" is low but she's definitely under 5'
I hope you realize that the problem with pedophilia is less the body (because petite women will always exist) and more because they have the mind of a child. An adult, even one with a childlike body, can fully understand the idea of consent.
>Should a person who acquired CP, paying money for it, be prosecuted?
Yes, he's supporting the abuse and exploitation of children
Well try not paying taxes and see for yourself. They won't stop at cutting you off from provided services, you know.
No it isn't because law is the same for everyone.
I also never said that you have to give him money or not.
I repeat, should he be prosecuted?
A girl in her 20s is not a literal child you fucking doofus
I hate her because she chews with her mouth open right into the mic. She can fuck right off for that.
Also
>Annoying voice
>Needs to make everything about her
>Not amusing in the slightest
Yea Forums - e-celebs
>there are people still gloating about going to E3, as if it's difficult to do these days
There's a reason devs are bailing E3, outside of it being a gigantic waste of money.
>proportional
That means fuck all, shes still a dwarf, they don't all have giant heads and little limbs like Peter Dinklage
That just means she's a midget, not a dwarf.
Give me a hug user.
do you have a single fact tpo back that up?
>those post times
How does King Crimson work
Oh well shit I didnt know. I'm just saying she looks young
not him but yes. They should be prosecuted.
Incidentally, Watsuki was also prosecuted. But apparently the laws governing CP in japan dont have teeth. That is a flaw with the system, but Watsuki has officially paid his debt to society already.
Maybe? I certainly don't think it should anything serious, a fine and maybe some community service at worst.
Hey man that's not cool, I have three ounces of respect for you. You owe me at least one.
I'm amazed E3 lasted this long, its such a fucking mess of wasted time and money for everyone involved.
I'd far rather watch Woolies edited videos on youtube than pat sitting like a fucking tumour for 7 hours
They never do, they just hate Pat and wish he was getting cucked by other guys even though Paige is more likely to lez out and has said so herself
>same guy is still trying to defend possessing child porn
Seriously delete /pol/
Well we all love you user and respect your opinions.
How about his debt to the abused girls in the videos he supported?
/pol/ is super against child porn though, theyre muh degeneracy fags who freak out at anything other than wmwf.
/pol/ hates pedos though
I like it when my pee pee hard tho
Yes.
The kid in the video is a victim. Why are the rights of criminals given more respect than the rights of the victims? Did you not play MGS2?
>How about his debt to the abused girls in the videos he supported?
He doesn't have one. They don't deserve fuck all from him. Justice was served, you don't get to steal everything from a man just because your feefees are hurt.
You mean when he agreed to work with authorities in trying to sniff out the distributors and bring them to justice? Yeah I think he paid that debt.
Anyone who hates pedos is an ally of mine.
Did you guys not see the pedo defenders attempt to pull the "muh leftists" card
He cracks open 7-8 redbulls a day, god knows what withdrawal for him would be like.
This is Yea Forums. Nobody here actually plays the games we talk about.
>Why are the rights of criminals given more respect than the rights of the victims?
Because to do otherwise creates an inquisitorial judicial system like mainland europe has.
You guys know actual CP is different than drawn shit, right?
>edited videos
Except they fucking arent
Woolie still kept that awful custom of his SBFP days, never cut anything out and never edit anything fun in
Twilight princess was the last stellar series for actually having some effort done in the editing deparment and that was done by fucking liam
I've been the last few years. Especially in the last five years, the show's gotten worse and worse. Last year's Thursday was fucking insufferable from how many yellow tags there were.
These days, industry folk get all their business done in the non-gen pub hours then bail outside of the private rooms upstairs, or at private off-site events. Gamer Passes were a massive mistake.
Not to a lot of people
>it's drawn child porn so it's ok!
I don't which one of you was the one who was responding to me but still.
Good, then we agree.
I have been saying this since the start, he should be prosecuted.
Now what he actually has to do after the sentence is a whole different discussion based on the law system and the traditions of the country we are talking about.
If he is an artist he should be prosecuted, spend his time or money and then be rehabilitated into society.
His work should remain separated from his actions, any economical repercussion shouldn't be enforced by law.
Of course, people can disagree with me and still boycott his work, that's their choice but they can't force me to adhere to it.
Are we all agreeing on this?
Lots of people are dumb
Fascinating argument.
Clearly not because every time I say I still want to read Kenshin's final arc people go OH MY GOD HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT THAT PEDOPHILE
Interesting stuff, I bet you have loads of stories to share. I had a friend try to sneak in some years back but he was easily caught (he did the thing where he was walking behind a large group while on his cellphone, hoping to look like he was with them).
Frankly it seems like a massive fucking headache to be at, from the lines I've seen. I can't imagine trying to conduct interviews or get work done in that setting.
Loli and other drawn shit like guro, while both having morally reprehensible content, are victimless.
because criminals deserve to not be railroaded. At least in the United States, literally half of the bill of rights is there to protect defendants in criminal and civil courts. Its similar to how popular speech isnt the type of speech that has to be protected.
I give absolutely zero fuck about what other people say in this site.
I don't agree with 90% of what I read here.
I just want to know if at least I am making sense to you.
Yes? There is literally no victim, no one is being harmed.
That being said, there is always the worry of the producers and consumers seeking escalation.
Whether I agree or not is irrelevant, he paid the fine (and presumably had to give up his porn) and thus in the eyes of his country's judicial system all is squared.
Yellow tags? Is that for press only? Also, E3 and Pax are cancerous but not by design. At least, not from what I know. Some of my friends are quite old and were in attendance for Pax before it was what it is today and going to E3 when it was still much, much less of a toy fair and more of an actual electronics expo. However, at the time press was much different, too.
So we're in autosage mode? Why don't mods just delete the thread? Fucking dumbasses.
How much was that fine anyway?
Creation is stemmed by consumer demand user.
200,000 yen, so about $1900. Basically a slap on the wrist.
Happens often in these threads. Incidentally having it devolve into debate over foreign law, taxation, the idea of seperating art from artist and all that doesn't help.
Okay then I will end this weird argument in which we all agree but refuse to say that we do in the most simple way possible.
I agree with you user, any further discussion would push us into different arguments.
Not if you're an auteur that is motivated by his own personal muse. Not sure what that would create in the world of CP though, maybe the child porn version of David Lynch's Rabbits
Yeah, there's a few stories. Usually I just walk the floor. Sometimes do meetings, and once or twice worked a booth. But to give you an example of how much Gamer Passes change the show:
>Resident Evil 2 demo queue during Industry Hours: about 15-30 minute wait.
>Resident Evil 2 demo queue during Gen Pub Hours: fills immediately, 2 Hour wait with a shut down telling people to come back in an hour when the line's open again.
Of course, if you've got friends at other companies, you just skip the line and play the more complete demos reserved for media appointments. With Capcom again, Mega Man 11 had Fuse Man's stage playable along with Block Man. The demo in public only had Block Man.
Anyone who wants to come across as noble is going to choose the self sacrificing option, though. There is no way to look good saying you'd prefer a bad thing happened to somebody else than to you, regardless of their comparative severity.
>Why are the rights of criminals given more respect than the rights of the victims?
Because places where the opposite happens are unironically worse systems because they tend to be way more corrupt.
Yellow tags are Gamer Passes. They come in this garish highlighter yellow sleeve versus everyone else having clear sleeves with different colored strips over your rank (Media, Industry, Special Guest if the ESA invited you personally, etc.)
Because it makes you mad, and that's hilarious.
Shuddup bitch he was right about that