Killing Floor 2 Thread

This game never captured me like the first one did I have no idea why.

>and how it’s better than the first one
It's not though.

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>game with less features is the better one

OLD GOOD
NEW BAD

>1cucks in here saying it's better
MUH COMFY

New features will never make up for a game being casualized and made so any retard can beat the highest difficulty like it's practically a joke.

This user is based and redpilled
Getting nuked on hoe by sniper husks when there's million things obscuring all view was bad enough, now there's also missiles and lazors

Show me your steam so we can see if you have HoE or shut the fuck up nigger.

This so much
KF2 is a travesty and I'm glad i had a chance to refund this piece of shit after it released despite me playing for 40 hours

Here are my gaming credentials, officer. Is that good enough for you, retard? The only HoE achievements I'm missing are Santa's Workshop and Shopping Spree because I haven't played it in a while.

Keep in mind I'm not saying it's bad, I just think it's a mindless game and if I actually want to feel challenged I'd much rather play KF1 any day, which is why I'll always think it's better than 2. Perks were watered down in 2 and it no longer feels like a proper game with team cooperation because just about anyone can pop out their upgraded T4/T5 and kill a Scrake or FP/QP like they don't give a fuck if they want to.

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The challenge is in playing with others and not getting killed

There's literally no way for me to prove whether I play with people or not, so feel free to not believe me if you don't want to. I mostly play with pubs and occasionally with friends, but I can't stop a retard from trying their hardest to ignore that someone who is good at 2 can think 1 is still better, if that's what helps him sleep at night.

Why do I keep getting kicked out of Normal/Hard when I'm level 0 I mean I can do suicide in kf 1 without any levels is it really that much harder than the first?

You're confused

Oh, actually, there is a way to prove it somewhat. My bad.

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>game was almost perfect
>add robots and weapon upgrading
Haven't played it since

How am I?

Not really, I'm guessing it's people either saving slots for friends or thinking you're some shithead BR that can't into game.

Probably just dicks who want a private game.
I'd never kick someone out of normal/hard as I can solo hard mode pretty easily even if you all die.

If you think soloing 6 player HoE is easy then congratulations you're the .01%.
Even the best streamers occasionally die in 6 player HoE with teammates alive.

Well yeah, I'm not saying I'm unkillable, but I do relatively often find myself needing to clutch out a wave where everyone else died. The issue I have with 2 is that you can just outrun or outheal most things. The only threatening thing there is to clutching out a wave is having a bunch of Fleshpounds and Quarterpounds who spawned when all 6 players were alive and now you have to face them at 6-player-health all by yourself, though that's provided you are one of the perks that has more trouble dealing with them like a Commando, because if you are a Medic or a Zerker, you are laughing the whole way through.

>Don't have completion of maps that are unpopular on HoE
>Don't have completion of wave 25 HoE endless DieSector
>everything fucks up immediately when I play with PUGs
>Friends don't play HoE
>keep fucking up in the later waves when I try on empty servers
MyLevelOfWealthWhen
youtube.com/watch?v=gP4xuPbZ4Ic

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I almost considered it on-par with the original, until the faggatron robot update came out and haven't played it since

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>weapon upgrading
>bad

Nigga what? Do you never get tired of every end-game wave being filled with people sporting the same weapons?

This
Now I can play with any weapon I want

No natter how many games I get I always somehow drift back to Killing Floor 2. Just love the gameplay, music, and gore. I love they keep adding new guns and maps.

What is your favorite wepons anons?

I love the katana upgraded as Beserker

No matter how OP it is, I'll always like the M99 the best. Extremely satisfying to watch it get reloaded, especially.

Mrs. Foster has chloe's voice actor

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She's the only thing I've bought in this game together with the Mark 7 suit. Totally worth it, this game needs more characters like her and less like Rae.
"Ugh, whatever" when in front of a raging Fleshpound never gets old.

>Mrs.
>actor

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ESL?

oops

CHESTNUTS

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Half of the songs are from the first game

>Only play on ps4

I like kf2 and I'm glad that they made changes to some of the perks in the recent update. I hope they keep it up and make any necessary changes to all the perks.

I’m glad theyre finally improving the survivalist. The killerwatt is fucking awesome.

Is the start up still slow as hell?

based
FUCK KF2FAGS
FUCK NIGGERS
AND TOAST TO THE BOOMERS WHO STILL PLAY KF1 TO THIS DAY

I want the bilethrower back.

i dont like the upgrade system for the guns

AW. AHM. WEHLDIN. DIS. DOA!

YOU'RE ALL FUR COAT AND NO KNICKERS, BITCHES!

The game has good gun porn, why have they ruined it with so many shitty sci-fi guns lately? Who wants neon shit like the Husk gun, microwave gun, freezethrower etc?

DOSH! GRAB ET WOIL YA CAHN LADS!

For real though KF2 went full cringe by embracing the whole dosh thing. It was a funny joke in KF1 but it stops being funny when it’s constantly being thrown in your face.

which boss is unironically the hardest?

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abomination. boring and irritating to play against

It happened in the first game so I guess they felt like doing it again

Poo Giant, its golems are retardedly durable. It's a chore to fight even on lowest difficulty.

I wish they would step up their game if they ever make a fifth boss.
Abomination and King Fleshpound are complete ass compared to Hans and Pat.

>"better"
>kf1:
>smaller team
>smaller budget
>still had mac and linux support
>"""""better"""""

lmao fucking destroyed that faggot

aesthetically kf1 is way better but kf2 plays better
and there's some stupid shit in kf2 like the robots

you're retarded if you think the upgrade system changed anything when it comes to meta loadouts
it just made the good weapons even better

Anyone else not getting fucking cyber tickets? Last weekend the drops were completely off and now I only get fucking crates.

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i actually haven't played the latest update and if crawlers are still fucking everywhere then i won't bother

Worst thing about crawlers is that corpses so often get in the way of putting a bullet into their tiny little skulls. God, I hate those fucking rodents.

Killing floor is just inferior COD Zombies with Bosses

Here's your (you). Thanks for the bump.

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Ive actually played zombies for years and just got kf2 because i gave up on black ops 4. I think the game is much better than zombies, at least gameplay wise. The only thing zombies has is lore (at least bo2 and before) and the overall aesthetic (which was thrown out in bo4)

Id say the king fleshpound. But the abomination is a literal abomination and im always disappointed when he's the final boss

Play firebug. He's unironically my favorite class

>the easiest boss in the game is the hardest

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But they're actually good. Especially the helios. Although i hope we get more regular real guns soon. I can believe we only have ONE (1) lmg

Cut me some slack. I got the game three days ago

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king fp is just a bigger fp with a laser beam, he's the dumbest boss in the game

We need more bosses. Any ideas?

they said they'd add the matriarch in early access
we need bosses that actually have mechanics like hans/patty instead of garbage like the fp king/abomination

Just put the Matriarch in the game.

I wouldn't mind bosses that were a little more abstract though. Like one that actively flees from and only attacks from range while shitting out loads of trash mobs.

They haven't added the Matriarch yet, so her I guess, the only info we got is "probably 2019" if they release her

Must be horrible to fight as a zerker with a melee weapon. But this guerilla warfare boss could be fun when it has low health or something.

I bet you also play on hard, shitter.

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as a zerker main it's good that they actually added a boss that sort of counters zerk (abomination) but it's such a garbage fight that it doesn't really matter
not to mention i usually have enough to buy an eviserator anyway, so i'll buy one and chuck it on the ground and if i get the fat retard i'll just swap my melee for it

I wouldn't want a boss that relies too heavily on other zeds to make the fight more difficult

>he doesn't bash in zed's faces in for the Lord

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I'm just spitballing here. The one thing I like about the King Fleshpound is all the Quarter-Pounders he throws at you.

all the bosses already have adds anyway

>better than the first one.
I wish it was
I'm just hoping for a third game now since ue3 is outdated

Matriarch based on the stalkers. Must be an eerie experience hearing a scream and then total silence until a wave of invisible hags surrounded you.

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COLLAP
SING
IN ON YOURSELF

Thoughts on Spillway? It's pretty okay, not too special.

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>he plays on anything less than HoE

robots are dead simple to kill if you center mass them

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Definitely one of the better maps. Some areas are cramped and spawn a lot of monsters at the same time, but it is fair compared to another map which I forgot the name of, powercore?
Visually also pleasing. In total a 9/10.

>he plays on anything less than HoE
I'm sorry user, I'm just shit at video games. Even in KF1 I had to settle for suicidal.

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It has multiple holding spots and an intuitive kite route. No useless and annoying gimmicks like monsterball or airship. Not a deathtrap like descent, nightmare or powercore. No annoying objectives. I'd say it's probably the best map in the game now level design wise.

They nerfed poison gas and the poo minions recently. You can't die against the abomination unless you get cornered.

Huh, you guys actually bring up some good points. I guess it just felt weird to not have to struggle against map design for the majority of a given run. I'll fully admit to liking those Halloween and summer maps, though. Even if it's just some weird gimmicks I like the weird shit.

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game got to easy after early access, i still miss hans killing you with one combo or throwing explosive grenades earlier also unless they overhaul the perk system survivalist will always be trash so their are most likely change it to a scientist perk

In fairness what I really love about the game is that turning up the difficulty actually changes zed behavior, for instance on suicidal and above husks will torch you at close range and will kill you in seconds if you're not a firebug.

Also having a good firebug on your team that tanks husk shots is the best

They said they wouldn’t change it to a scientist perk in a reddit ama.

They are going to keep buffing it however.

Some of the weekly challenges are hard difficulty but recommend level 15+. Make sure your not joining something like that

Even if 2 is technically better, the amount of Tripwire lies and bs make me really not want to enjoy it.

not really just aim for the head

>love Christmas and all thing Christmas
>go back to Santa's Workshop, even they're not jolly zeds I can still enjoy the map
>STILL MOTHERFUCKING CHRISTMAS ZEDS
>rush immediately to Monster Ball afterwards
>Halloween is my favorite time of year
>regular non-spooky zeds
Why would they play with my heart like this?

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Fucking annoying map to play on HoE. Constant spawns around the corners and drop downs. So many times FP/QP spawn in sight as I turn the corner. Layout is fine, but spawns make it a trash map.

I'm still so angry the survivalist even exists that I don't think anything they could do to it would change my mind.

still waiting for the crawlers to crawl on the walls?
;D

Hans since EA and Hans ever since. In this iteration the quarterpound spam in Hell on Earth ruins the fight.

The survivalist is already pretty good. The only thing they really need to change are the zed time skills because both of those are crap.

Holy shit, I tried out survivalist for the first time and freezethrower and killerwatt are pretty fun. Perk's probably still shit but at least there's a reason to use it.

Why? They’re giving it new guns so it’s pretty unique now.

It's mostly the survivalist and lack of dragon I'm pissed about. The fact that those faggots had the gall to pretend that they never really confirmed the dragon even though its logo is on fucking official merch worn by the devs at conventions and on the cards and that they only confirmed 9 perks, not WHICH 9 perks so the absolutely fucking retarded survivalist means they didn't break their word instead of manning up and apologizing is enough for me to be pissed at them forever.

what are your tough on the fact that this year we will get less content and more quality of life improvements? (except removing zed corner spawn cuz tripwire does not seem to want to do it)

Both games have potential but turn into boring shit after a few games. Don't (you) me.

Can someone explain to me why the 9mm ammo pool was nerfed from 255 to 105, I enjoyed using it for most of the wave to stock up on dosh whenever my teammates don't share.

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see It's boring and lazy as shit. The only neat thing it has are the weapons, which would be just as easily acomplished by giving those weapons to class that isn't a fucking cop out, like a scientist class. Not only that, but the game's been out two and a half years and survivalist only has two fucking unique weapons. That's half as many as any other class had on release. Even the fucking SWAT has more weapons.

Yeah same here. The killawatt is honestly pretty good. Ive always thought the survivalist was a bit meh but now i feel like we may be getting somewhere

>Not only that, but the game's been out two and a half years and survivalist only has two fucking unique weapons. That's half as many as any other class had on release.
That would be because it's a mix and match perk that mainly uses other classes weapons.

Dragon? What?

>Not only that, but the game's been out two and a half years and survivalist only has two fucking unique weapons
That's kind of the point. Do you not know why the survivalist exists? I'm not saying it's good, but the whole point of it is being a jack of all trades perk.

Pretty damn superb to be honest. I agree with the other user that said the spawns can be a bit of a mess but for the most part it's an amazing map. I thought it would be much more closed in than it was. Turned out well in the end

Initially, they were going to put in a martial arts perk with probably suitable weapons. But that got scrapped and turned into what we have now, the "I can use anything class" survivalist. Quite a bummer, I was hoping to have throwable shurikens or weapons in the style of Shadow Warrior 1. But I'm not as mad as others.

Its not though. The first game has more iron sights, while the second just trys to jam shitty red dots on things.

Thank god for the Rising Storm 2 skins.

FUCKING HELL THE KATANA WASNT EVEN A PART OF THE ZERKER ARSENAL CUZ IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE DRAGON/MARTIAL ARTIST AND THE VOICE LINES REFERENCING THE MATRIARCH HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME SINCE EARLY ACCESS

Jack of all trades perk that is limited to using very few good offperk weapons; and is further restricted by the level 5 skill.
They sure succeeded at their goal of making the most boring class.

That's exactly why I'm calling it a lazy, half assed cop out. The Commando was already the jack of all trades perk with class weapons and the support was the jack of all trades with its carry weight increase allowing weird loadouts.

It was supposed to be another melee class to complement the berserker. Tripwire devs wore the pins with the class icon at cons and even featured the class icon on the steam trading cards and then were big enough faggots that they claimed it was never really confirmed so they didn't break their word by removing it and adding survivalist instead. I wouldn't be so pissed if they just fucking manned up and apologized.

I also would have greatly preferred if the swat used a riot shield instead of their one note bullet hoses (the swat is the only current perk with one loadout/playstyle) but at least that was never really hinted at.

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That's the spawn system in general. They must have fucked up somewhere because monsters can spawn literally around any corner and even in your back when there is a pole or something "blocking" the line of sight behind your back.

One has better maps and INSULT PLAYERS. I think I joined more modded servers in that than kf2 though.

Wow. That's truly a shame. They could have done so much with that. Id main that.
I really never understood the reason for having all of the tacticool sights. Id be ok with choosing your own sights for every gun, but id most likely prefer to go iron sights only all around.

Like I said, it ain't good but that's what they were going for.

Even if you can do weird shit with those 2 perks they still heavily specialize in specific types of weapons and all the perk upgrades are related to them. Survivalist is specifically designed to be the dumb buffet option where you can get anything you want but none of it is great. I enjoy SWAT even if it is a one-hit wonder.

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Damage was increased so they reduced the ammo count. Though it could do with an extra 2 mags

EDAR boss when

Spawn system has been buggered for over a year, however there are things you can do to prevent the corner spawns for the most part and this map doesn't use them.

Having a riot shield for the swat would be incredible. Especially if you could wear it on your back and deflect damage when you have another weapon. But even without that id use it all the time, amd would play swat more in general. He needs more, and a shield is badass

>Even if you can do weird shit with those 2 perks they still heavily specialize in specific types of weapons and all the perk upgrades are related to them. Survivalist is specifically designed to be the dumb buffet option where you can get anything you want but none of it is great.
Even then, the survivalist is only "required" as a jack of all trades class because of their rework of the leveling system which completely dis-incentivizes offperking weapons. And on top of that, the first fucking survivalist perk does a great job of making it not even feel like a jack of all trades since you're already restricted to half the weapon list

>Damage was increased so they reduced the ammo count.
While at the same time overnerfing fallback because of upgraded t5 9mm meme videos. So now it no longer 1 shots Gorefasts and has less ammo. Tripwire is fucking retarded.

Why didn't they make the berserker more interesting? Could have given him some cool tech like dark messiah, but instead it feels like skyrim still. Poking with claymore is the most skill based thing he can do.

Negligible when we have perks with skills like "Fallback" and stacking headshots with Sharpshooter and Gunslinger. Its more important to sharpshooter above anyone else since primaries have small ammo pools.

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So what class needs weapons most? And what guns do you want to see added?

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What setup is THE most OP for the hardest difficulty?

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>Having a riot shield for the swat would be incredible.
I asked about things like that in the Q&A they did not long ago. Like SWAT having riot shield and baton combo or Gunslinger having dual machine pistols or dual shotguns. Diversifying weapon loadouts for otherwise pretty strict classes.

Didn't answer me so I doubt it's on the table.

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I'm only gonna say it one more time, it's mostly shit and the only thing it has going for it is the freezy and electric guns which are actually pretty rad.
>their rework of the leveling system which completely dis-incentivizes offperking weapons
It does? I feel it's the complete opposite, they give you a lot more freedom in this game since you can level for multiple perks at once so even using off-perk weapons will give you small bits of EXP.

4 Demolition and 2 Support.

A shame really. I think the gunslinger could do with at least one full auto weapon to dual wield. Micro uzis. Something. And a shield could really spice up the swat. Especially if it has some good bash/ deflect power.

Expected to play it way longer but only got 40 hours. Had fun playing grenadier as the german character but the game crashed for no reason way too often for me.

Wouldn't that be a bit OP for gunslinger and SS considering Rack Em Up?

What? Swat STILL doesn't have a shield? They promised it like years ago lmao. Haven't been following the game lately.

Riot Shield + Machine Pistol would the dream combo for me.

You can already blow through Rack'em Up with the dual AF2011-A1s since they fire two bullets at a time. Just balance so it only counts two or a single pellet, I guess.

I don't think they have ever promised or mentioned that swat is gonna have a riot shield.

>jump alt-firing with Doomstick to get away from angry FPs
Shit's too fun

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I haven't tried the Doomstick since before the buff, how is it?

Reminder that only faggots havent done all the prestige and maxed their perks

>They dont have the seasonal costume
Shameful

For the swat you can't go wrong with an mp40 or ppsh-41. Commando needs another lmg. Seems how they're adding $2000 weapons i can see them adding a heavier machine gun like an m240 or m60. A Val, Aug, or Xm8 would be cool too.

>They dont have the seasonal costume
It's not exactly a chore to do all the event achievements, I don't know why that's a point of contention. I'm still mad I forgot to get Hans' weapon from back during the Monster Masquerade.

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t. superperktraining/killbox hero

I wouldn't really be able to tell you what it was like compared to now I don't pay much attention to patch notes and the few things I immediately seek out, but it certainly seems like a strong weapon given the alt-fire can delete Scrakes outright (at least on Suicidal, I'm not savvy with HoE but I assume it would with fewer players) and chunks bosses.
I mostly run it for the fun aspect over whether or not its an amazing weapon desu.

>I don't know why that's a point of contention
Because of this
>I'm still mad I forgot to get Hans' weapon from back during the Monster Masquerade.

And cant you do the same? What is stopping you

Any team loadout as long as there is a competent medic that spams healing darts anytime somebody loses at most 3hp

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>animations are still lurchy enough that there are plenty of scenarios rendering it near impossible to headshot things at range
>everything sprints right into your face and then spazzes the fuck out until you bodyshot it enough
>sprinting
>better than the first one
The first game was about control. You lose control and you either wipe or fall back on kiting until you can regain control. The second is about managing a constant shitfest. Sure, it feels good to punch a scrake in the face and slip out of a deteriorating situation, but that pales to manipulating zeds into creating space for you to slip through. Also Tripwire is determined to force as much garbage in as they possibly can. Long-lasting area denial (or outright "fuck your armor" if you can't leave) from alpha crawlers, gorefiends that take FOREVER to kill if you have anything that can't take off their head in one shot or dump on their body, the absolute dogshit that is Krampus as a permanent boss, and their latest hot faggotry in the god damn robots. In particular, a zerk taking several seconds to kill a gorefiend or bloat or being able to do absolutely nothing to a robofaggot if they don't have a katana feels absolutely fucking terrible and it happens constantly.

>and the few things
aside from the few things*

I forgot the worst offense: no Abandon All.

There's a world of difference between "I can't do it, it's too hard" and "FUCK, I forgot to do the thing".

Gunslinger has only one had one mainline perk weapon added since launch.

>And what guns do you want to see added?
A pair of Baretta 93rs in burst mode.

on Hoe it can't 1 shot scakes. There is also too many QuarterPounds, for the limited ammo pool of the doomstick.

>a zerk taking several seconds to kill a bloat
Try not using a katana or vampire next time buddy

Is the doomstick any good? After the buff the m4 seem better option

It counts if you went with the "I will do it later", happens all the time

Yeah, because knocking shit over and still being unable to hit it in the head is so much better.

Let me tell you in 2 easy points
>game isn't fun until highest tier
>takes 20 hours of grinding just to be able to move quick enough to survive on that mode

>Yeah, because knocking shit over and still being unable to hit it in the head is so much better.
Git gud the crovel one shots HoE bloats.

>Try not using
>because a couple enemies can block it
>enemies that pose absolutely zero threat while blocking

Youre a dumbass if you are a Zerk and dont have the Eviscerator

>Didn't care about the first game
>only bought the 2nd one because I heard about the cool gore physics

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Honestly it's a good question. Id say it just depends. Do you want to shoot continuously or do you want a huge burst of damage but you need to reload right after? The doomstick is still a great weapon but so is the m4

>Be Support
>Wanna grab ammo box
>I am a support, poke me to get free bullets
>However, I cannot get free bullets, let me get the boxes
>Faggots take the free bullets and take ammo boxes I was aiming for

It honestly doesn't bother me much at the end of the wave so much because it means they just don't wanna spend more money buying bullets, but DURING a fucked up wave I get fags doing this shit all the time. Normally I wouldn't care, but in this game, if you're a cunt then your entire team is going to die for it down the line. A faggot stealing ammo for my Doomstick means I can't defend myself or others from big zeds because you wanted to take the ammo box to get one grenade and nothing else, because you wanted 5 instead of 4. I can't cunting believe people do that shit unironically. And yeah, I've had 3 people die on a team just because one faggot had to take an ammo box from me. Of those 3 the stupid bitch that took them was included.

Based and true, kf2 is shit as fuck, just shitty free dlc maps and paid guns skins and characters skins, no new enemies and no more than one new gun a year

Eviscerator is for lone wolf faggots with shit teams.

>And cant you do the same? What is stopping you
Absolutely nothing. I just have zero interest in wasting hours of playtime with something as unfunny as throwing grenades into a box for literally nothing in return. I usually also don't judge players for doing it. Like if you have 1k+ hours at the game it literally doesn't matter how you level your perks you'll probably play like a god anyway.

It takes 1, even less if you arent dumb because of the custom maps

Post your zed ideas then

>That medic who ruthlessly hunts you down so he can heal your remaining 5 hp.
Always gives me a sensible chuckle

If it's that fast i might do it myself.

>it's a "guy niggles one of ten things user said but user replied so that is now the only thing he said" episode

You're a dumbass if you use the eviscerator. It's a shit weapon with shit damage.

Back when you could just use cheat engine to reach lvl 20 on all classes was the best. HoE is fun as fuck, and you can get some amazing moments where you just get into the flow and do some crazzzzzzzy combos.

I WANT MY CHAINSAW BACK! The eviscerator is for fools!

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kf1 was more punishing since everything was pretty bare bones.
if you got grabbed by a clot, you usually were fucked if you were non-zerker.
parry wasn't a thing so all zerkers had was katana stun spam.
FPs were actually scary because most parties barely survive a single raged FP coming at you.
sirens did a fuckload of dmg and they always came in when shit went south
husks were pretty OP at range if you just let them sit there, not so much up close but if you were an idiot and didn't pay attention to his suicide, you were usually fucked.
multiple spiders could fuck you if you werent paying attention
stalkers were actually fast and would fuck you if teamed up with spiders/clots

in kf2, you can usually be a lot more reckless with the way you play since you have many more options of disposing zeds vs 1.

TELEPORTING ZEDS

new zeds would be harder to balance, though I certainly wish there were more bosses

gimmie a flying zed so I can scream

The robots shows tripwire doesnt give a fuck about balance now give me your ideas for new zeds

True to an extent, KF2 does have more balanced classes and most of those points still apply to the higher difficulty's. problem in 2 is that zerks and medics can solo shit too easily, kf1 had this problem too and it's just parts of the game. it's why i find the others classes more interesting, more risk and skill to stay alive.

yeah you're actually punished for kiting in kf2. in kf1, sometimes thats all you had because the whole party died and all thats left is a sharp or zerker running around with a crossbow. it was always epic when someone solo the rest of the map when the whole team couldn't even do it.

I BET YOU'RE DELICIOUS

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I DON'T KNOW
WHY
I TRYYYYYY

DON'T EAT ME!

I don't know about KF2, but in KF1 you got money for healing. So it's always in the medic's best interest to heal as much as possible.

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You still get money for healing in KF2, regardless if you're medic or not.

One of the better ones and I'm really happy they're moving away from the cramped area maps.

I feel you man, monsterball is by far my favorite map and having regular zeds on it feels like it's being violated.

>Connections never ever
Legit mad

>players who don't know how the syringe works
>only ever use it on themselves
>halve their healing rate and lose money

>Enter game
>2 Berserkers, 2 demos, a firebug and a gunslinger
>No medic or support in sight
>If there is a medic they are usually woefully incompetent and care more about killing than keeping the team at full health
>Playing sharp or any precision perk is out of the question since the demo will spam grenades obnoxiously shaking the screen
>If it's the prison or farm map then expect the demo and firebug to steal all the kills and refuse to share any dosh, screwing the rest of the team
>Those two retards that split off from the rest of the time and get killed

This game is hopelessly stressful, idk why I keep coming back.

>Missing role
>Not filling it
Ok

Is it just me or the general populist full of retards? both 1 and 2 i've played countless games where people don't understand basic mechanics
I'd be a millionaire if i had dollar for every time i had to tell some dumb ass to use an on perk weapon

>Firebug and demo running away
>Not the useless zerks
I doubt this very much.

My favorite experience was standing at the trader with ~50hp and some retard asking "y u no heal?"

It's been my absolute favorite since it was introduced

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Does the m32 still not have audio falloff and blast the entire server with TOOM TOOM TOOM TOOM?

This is why i play this game. Trying to carry hopeless teams in hoe pubs as far as possible is my sole reason for playing.

>The medic who doesn't know pressing mid mouse shoots a syringe out of his gun
>The berserker who uses guns
>The commando who spends all game using a LAR so he can buy an AA12
My list could go on and on but i'm sure you also share my pain

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That was my consistent first buy for a while but now it's kinda shit compared to the alternatives. Disappointing.

It's really a game of extremes, you either get clueless retards or literal gods shame the former one happens way more.

The zerks are one of the worst offenders too, two katana wielding weebs that refuse to adapt and buy a weapon actually worth a damn for higher waves.

I typically do. Even when done so, it really doesn't matter when the rest of the team are laying so many eggs at once.

Zerker with a medar, medshotgun, or double barrel is pretty alright though.

>a weapon actually worth a damn
but upgraded katana is good, better than upgrading the alternatives

>zerk using the sawed off to goomba stomp the boss

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the fucking crovel is better than the katana

Have you ever played with a zerker who uses an AK and doesn't have single melee weapon on him besides the combat knife?
I have it, sucks

>gigantic spooky gothic castle
>Hans is the trader voice
>he's a gigantic shit
>all those awesome monster zeds
>the cute balloons you can pop that play small effects and ghosts
>it was actually a fun map even with some hiccups
>roasting or electrifying zeds with traps
They made up for the dumb hillbillies in spades with that event, it was my favorite shit ever and I can't wait for them to come back.

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>tfw there's charging fleshpounds and you see the full hp zerk zooming past you and switching to his rpg leaving you behind to die

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>tfw level 25 gunslinger with rack 'em up and Fan Fire perks
>hit 5x headshot bonus
>zed time kicks in

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>we'll need a forklift to get that scrake corpse out of here

Hans and patriarch are way better traders then french pod will ever be.

Aint got shit on an infinite kriss while a 'mando stretches it as long as possible

I'd like to see a Gunslinger/SWAT cross-perk, like a TMP or a Veresk

Fair enough. I just love the look and sound of it

With the Hemogoblin, does it matter where you hit them, or is it a set damage value regardless of whether you hit them in the head or not? I know the Medic AR is probably better, just trying to try some different things while grinding

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COLLAPSING

I know a lot of people wrote him off as memey but I genuinely enjoy Gary Busey's crazy shit and was pleasantly surprised that they got him to be the Santa for last Christmas. It was hell of a more enjoyable map and theme than Krampus' lair the previous year. I'm so happy Christmas zeds are permanent there, though being on only one of the Christmas maps is pretty weird.

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IN

How to git well with firebug and flamethrower?

>How to git well with firebug and flamethrower?
Get the heat wave skill, never die.

Best success I've found is Ground Fire perk, aim at the feet so it deals both direct damage and catches them in the fire.

Aim at zeds and BBQ

Look at zed, fire at ground
Thats it
There is always using a better perk

>youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I
Take the longer range skill, flame everything with your micro or regular thrower. Take the micro for later waves and push back pounds with the alternate shot. The other weapons are neglected by most, but the shotgun is a nice addition to your thrower. You'll get the grip and then call yourself the king.

With the flamethrower specifically, ground fire + aiming at their feet, and don't hold down the fire button, pulse it to conserve ammo. Don't ignite Scarkes or Fleshpounds unless you have Heatwave and need to get them off someone dying, fire does tickle damage to them. Microwave guns like the MVG and Helios are built for the larger Zeds and stuff with metal (Husks, Sirens, etc.) but if you already have a big zed hunter class I wouldn't focus on them. If you use projectile based firebug weapons (MAC-10, Helios in particular), swap ground fire for BBQ since they don't leave residue fire on the ground. Also try not to share lanes with classes that require aiming for finesse like Sharpshooters, sending everything into a panic is liable to tick them off.

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I have 800+ hours on medic and literally no idea how the homogoblin works. I'd imagine it doesn't matter where you hit them for applying the debuff and the dot.

I also for the life of me can't figure out how Acidic Rounds and Zedative work. I'm not sure if it's a gradual thing that takes a second to kick in or if you have to exceed a certain damage threshold before the DOT gets applied (when they turn green and start panicking)

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I never played the first one but I like 2

Same, I only ever get dosh crates

>only ever got enough tickets for one Christmas thing
>it was a fucking poinsettia hat

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i'm still mad about the medic weapons looking like toys

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>Just use the skins bro

Use the Microwave gun instead since at higher levels 90% of zeds have metal. Also use ground fire and aim at feet

G11 FUCKING WHEN

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Helios Rifle seriously upgraded Firebug, that thing annihilates everything

Sadly those just add patterning on the weapons and change the color of the tron lights

>Looks like a toy
>Kicks like a mule!

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The fucking husk cannon was superior before tje nerf

Remember when you could destroy scrakes with the microwave gun and right perks

Did the tweak to how the impact damage is calculated help anyway, or does the previous nerf still hold it back?

>I also would have greatly preferred if the swat used a riot shield instead of their one note bullet hoses
>Like SWAT having riot shield and baton combo

Are you me? Way back when everyone was talking about SWAT being a new class I said many times how a baton makes more sense as a melee weapon, and how shields and pistols need to be a thing for swat. They could make multiple kinds of shields for the different tiers, starting with those small round clear plastic British riot shields and going up to full ballistic shields. The shields could be paired with pistols and PDWs, but also have the option of using light melee weapons. A player could block or bash with a shield, and might even be able two handing the shield like dark souls in order to push more effectively (clearing a path with knockdown) or brace against a strong attack. Not only would this better differentiate commando and SWAT, but it would also add another layer to team tactics and builds for other classes

On the topic of martial artist and survivalist, they could have made the martial artist more distinct from the berserk (or at least as much as the current commando Swat dynamic) by making one the finesse class and the other the brute. They could have made martial artist faster and given him a hand full of caltrops as a grenade and melee could have been tekko or steel knuckle gloves or they could have gave it the firebug's melee weapon while giving the fire bug a small hatchet. The class weapons could have been thing like a spear, nunchaku, and throwing weapons.
They even could have made survivalist interesting if they only embraced the idea of a bloody survivalist in an apoc. Give it a bunch of weapons that can be used by others like a SKS, a liberator pistol, and bear trap deployable, but don't just give it existing guns. Make its melee a hatchet or crowbar, make its grenade something like smoke that just slows zeds down without damaging them. Do something interesting.

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You still can

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please don't rage the big zeds

people still play this lootbox cringefest?

It ain't that bad, only spent like 100$ so far.

At least you can recycle them for some free shit, that's more than valve ever did.

>new graphics new guns
>Husks with the baller flamethrower attack
Most other shit the second game does worse. KF2's turned into a visual mess with shitty mechanics like poison gas crawlers and bodyshot robots. Meme-tier babyfleshpounds from a mutator added to regular survival just because, and have them spawn on boss wave for shits and giggles. Versus mode flops. Game balance problems of the first game like mindlessly running circles as zerk/medic are even worse in the second game. "RNG spawns" so players can get scrakes and fleshpounds on wave3 or 5 just because. Dev circlejerk with "community" who suck up big to corporate land positions at twatwire.

Feels like Payday2 with how the game takes one step forward and three steps back with each update by adding some other shit mechanic that just makes the game more irritating to play. Community is about as toxic too.

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>kf1
>DAR has unique (and cute) sounds
>kf2
>DAR has other character's voiceline put through a filter

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>the team of ridiculous looking faggots, some of whom spam emotes and / or voice
>the melee only berserker that sees you running for an ammo boxes and then drops everything to get it first
>the person who pick up your weapon after you die and then sells and never spreads their money around
>The people with thousands who will not give any money to their team even when the boss wave is next
>the people who are mostly or fully stocked who try to grab money being thrown to someone who just joined or died previously
>the team of level 25 classes that will not end an endless hard spillway after completing the necessary wave for the event
>The American teenager that tells you to fuck off when you join late and ask for money, and proceeds to berate you and demand that you are kicked when you are trying to thin ice pirouette because you have low tier weapons with no ammo and dared to even think of using a team member's weapon
>The American team that kicks you for using a prestiged class that is ONLY LEVEL 17 on a hard game and because your ping is WAY TOO HIGH at 100
>The Ukrainian team the welds you, their only medic, out at the start of the wave and stops you from unwelding the door and then complains that you got swarmed trying to go around and then kicks you when everyone starts dying because they decided to weld out their only medic
>The Brazilian team all with open mics that pick up their game sound who constantly talk over each other with what I can only assume is their John Madden play by play of what is going on mixed with the sounds of domestic disturbances and street crime in the background

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MUH FEMALE VOICE

Still don't understand why they didn't let joe the janitor record some voicelines and them throw them through some filters.

>DAR has chicken squawk
>Commando Chicken doesn't

>Rae players

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SOMETHING FUN'S COMING

ever had 5 raes around? now that's fun.

THIS CAT'S BACK IN THE GAME.

WHO IS THIS MYSTERIOUS MARKSMAN

Rae is garbage but I don't mind Ana.

DON'T CROSS MY KRISS

That one makes me laugh though.

AHHHHHHHHHHHK

youtu.be/JjUjPRH9pa0?t=959

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>the team of ridiculous looking faggots, some of whom spam emotes and / or voice
I do this just to trigger people. Nice to see it's working.

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My favorite map is KF-GREENSTREET

I hate HoE pubs and my friends only play controlled difficulty.
GET ME OUT

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>Mrs Foster running noises
Unironically the best £7 I ever spent.

I haven't played in like two years
Is GAS GAS GAS still cool

Swat should've been a secondary tank that focuses on stuns, tasers, shields, beanbag weapons, gas etc.

>martial artist button
OH NO NO NO NO NO

SANTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

YOU'VE
RUINED
EVERYTHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

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MP5 KEEPING THE DREAM ALIVE

I just started the other day. Why the fuck are there robot enemies now? That is so fucking lame

>uncurbed autism
I have never met a normal person that plays that meme mod. What is it about CD that turns people into egotistic faggots?

They were fine when they were put it, it was the gimmick for last year's summer sideshow event. Steampunk robots on the airship going out of control. The problem is after the event finished Tripwire didn't get rid of them and they're a huge pain in the ass.

Its amazing that trip wire is so creatively dead that they can't think up a single new Zed and add fucking robots instead

Summer Shitshow was amazing.
They had to nerf the robots, they nerfed a quad-barrel shotgun into oblivion so the Boomstick became stronger than the new gun with more barrels you can shoot simulteanously.

Just one turd after another.

They are combat D.A.R.s, unlike zeds their weak spot is not their head but their core. You can blast their head off and they will do just fine but even a well placed pistol round can deactivate them.
They are very useful if they are in crowded areas, since killing them in the proper way is like a free EMP grenade and stuns all enemies in a 5 meter radious. Also use missile launcher EDARs to knock out big zeds.

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HOW DO I GET GUD AT DEMO

This. Can't play with anyone anymore because everyone only plays CD. I play to have fun not to be more worn out after a gaming session then after straight 8 hours of work. Then there is always 1 person with literal god aim doing most of the work anyways while everyone else just tries to hang. Feels good failing to hold a lane with 3 people while 1 guy obliterates 2x the amount of zeds single-handedly.

Don't forget the commando and his 9mm pistols of rape.

Kill Zeds with explosives. Dumb fire rockets into the Big Guys heads for massive damage.

CD and Zedternal are best thing that happend to kf2

POWER RANKING

DEMO > FIREBUG WITH HELIOS > ZERKER > SWAT > SUPPORT > GUNSLINGER > FIREBUG WITHOUT HELIOS> MEDIC > TRASH > COMMANDO > SHARP > PURE DOGSHIT SURVIVALIST

Survivalist knife will never stop being stupid

Stop being an autist and leave your CD safespace. Embrace the TRUE difficulty that is a HoE pub with 5 dead weights.

Those nerfs were needed. EDARs at the start were way, WAY more tankier and spawned in squads after the first wave they were a nightmare on HoE, and the Doomstick deleted anything in a quadshot even on HoE 6p and had a lot of ammo. However later in the Halloween update they buffed it again, I think it now has more ammo.

Why did they remove the soul from the sequel?

I really hate how much the aesthetics of these games changed over time. Compare how KF1 looked as far as characters and weaponry around the time it release versus now or KF2 from the very beginning, it's fucking disgusting

Should I go m4 + upgraded rpg or should I get the six shot gl
Most of the time I cannot rely on my teammates to take down either

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Get the M32 as fast as possible

I wish more server owners would at set fixed MaxMonsters. Would make clutching a lot more difficult. After you've dealt with the initial blob it's a snoozefest.

I'M INFECTED WITH YOU
PULL THE PLUG ALREADY

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I always get almost exclusively the tickets
this time so far, I only got 1 crate so far, I get a ticket every time

The thinking mans loadout is c4+rpg+deagle+med pistol. But if you can't rely on your team go with rpg+m16. M32 won't do anything besides annoying your team and getting you killed.

Might just be the best official map

Reminder that the best way to play as a jack of all trades is ignoring survivalist and go full Commando Grenadier

>HE grenades for crowd control and anti-FP support
>Upgraded M16, great DPS, plenty of ammo and with +15 explosive grenades, ideal against flesphounds and dudshot Scrake heads
>HMTech-501, greater ammo pool, can 1shot trash and has +10 heal grenades, heals 2 times more that Medic's healing nades

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I have a powerful urge to spam the Make It Rain emote at the start and end of every wave.

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No one ever team-heals in KF2. I miss KF1s banter and camaraderie. Haven't played 2 in a year or so.

I always go medic with pistol+smg+railgun if i want to be a jack of all trades.

Dude people don't even know that the Syringe exists and what the default key for dropping guns is despite popping in on Hell on Earth.

Game's community is busted.

survivalist is my fav perk AND they buffed him, feels good

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>tfw console pleb with toaster oven
>cant use faked players
there arent enough zeds
just not enough

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Medic with healing gas in zed time helps

Also
>Not being 25
The fucking worst, people should really level up their fucking shit

>10k people ingame
>maybe 4 HoE servers even when letting ping search go up to 150
Why the fuck are there so many Hard lobbies?

Probably people idling for tickets.

Isn't it community map made official? Made by Rewire not TWI.

The Medic rifles are unironically better for Commando than his own T4/5 weapons. The stumbling effect is too good to ignore when you have to solo scrakes.

>not The Cossack while throwing money at players

You are doing it wrong.
Med pistol + dbs + rail

oh shit i forgot there is an event going on

Too little healing potential for my taste. With pistol+smg you have still enough output to keep a moderately retarded team alive.

>got firebug to 25
>Want to get medic to 25 next
Getting back into the game, is there really nothing for prestige besides weapon skins? Are they at least cool weapon skins?

transgressor.github.io/kf2economy/prestige.html

You get some vault dosh for prestiging but overall it's only worth the hassle if you like grinding.

They are skins so yes, also you get a mad account of vosh crates

Glad to see I make people laugh

You can fucking idle for tickets? Shit.

Drops are every three and a half hours but you need to be ingame for at least thirty minutes to qualify.

I remember all the bitching about them not re-adding DAR as a playable to KF2. Then they added him and more people bitched about him getting added. Hilarious

>can't taunt players
nah.

>steam market already had cheap skins
>TWI crashes the whole market
>skins and cosmetics drop dramatically
>console stuck with the overpriced shop
F

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I see. I'm not sure why I even reacted like that, not like this event has anything worthwhile. Game fucking takes forever to start up anyways and eats resources like a son of a bitch. Perhaps when Halloween and Christmas roll around.

>Half of the songs
literally one track

Alright they look pretty great at least fpr firebug Ill set up an auto clicker and idle a perk server to re-level.

Jeez, how did they fuck that up?
I'm looking now an a lot of them used to be way more expensive.

Just

you deserve it for hugging the trader all the time so I can't grab the ammo, and then immediately fucking off so I either have to chase you and loose the remaining time or waste money

so this what people who play on hard think like

>player thanks me every time I heal him and save his ass, even when I'm not a medic
>never heals me back

Do offer a better tier list

masterson and briar are TOP LADS

Oh cool. I'll grab a dollars worth of skins for the guns I like then.

I've tried this game for a few hours now, both solo and with a friend and no matter the map we can clear the first waves but then always get destroyed by any boss. I have had no trouble with a bunch of other hardcore games so it's confusing why I'm awful at this game in particular. Do you have to max out the perks or something before this becomes playable?

If it still works I might. Id like to really get back into the game for HoE and challenge modes and after leveling firebug legitimately I feel justified perk training for skins. Its the fucking worst playing suicidal/HoE with people who bought the game, perk trained and are running around blowing ammo on clots wave 1.

Also hows endless mode?

Zerk/Medic/Gunslinger > Everything else > Survivalist.
Increased movespeed and health regen are broken since you can get away with more mistakes and run circles infinitely around the map. Gunslinger lacks health regen and requires more aim compared to zerk and medic though. Survivalist isn't even a real perk.

>Hows endless
Bosses very often and wave challenges sometimes are a bitch, explosive zeds as Berserker are the worst, but sometimes they are actually a "free wave"

Worth at least one run for the patriarch/count hans comments alone.

i dont even care about weapon skins
just want custom maps and more zeds but it wont happen
also that is pretty fucked nice work tripwire

>couldn't get Hans' custom guns because I would always get BOOM wave before level 25
It was always after fucking wave 20, too. The game couldn't throw me a bone and just have it be around the 10s.

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>zed
found the leaf

>What is Gunslinger/Sharpshooter
Shameful

>so you're trash at a game, what do
>post opinions on Yea Forums

yea it's the most boring way to play the game

EDARs should have just been a boss from the begging. Make 3 larger variants of the EDARs and have it so you take on 3 mini-bosses at once. Weaker EDARs could then replace zed spawns for the round

>he doesn't play the Wehrmacht soldier
altho I have to say Alberts is top tier

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>loses one (1) HP
>AAAArarrrghhhghh uuuhuu
Alberts man, keep it together.

I like it but:
What's the point of all these hats and costumes when it's an exclusively first person game?
Why do the devs have a phobia of creating defensible positions?
Where is my SMLE?

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>destroy 50 zeds from a distance
>turn around once
>gorefiends and crawlers all up in my fucking grill
>I don't shoot, I die
>I shoot, I die
It's absolute hell.

Are you too dumb to take a corner so you dont get ambushed? Come on

Kekies and milk

You could join one in progress and skip literally everything

I just like the lvl 25 perks too much and don't want to give them up

What are you, fucking nuts? Corners are worse, the spawns in this game are absolute hell. At least out in the open I had half a chance of something not sneaking up on my ass.

I tried, I couldn't find a damn thing.

ana has the fattest ass

I'd rather have sitty lootboxes that can be recycled into free shit than actually having to pay for new weapons

>Couldnt do 25 on Hard with the most broken perk
Just

Survivalist is objectively better than SWAT. Let that sink in.

It's only a matter of time, they pulled that shit about halfway into KF1.

Yeah, well until that happens I don't really care

Who /Strasser/ here?

God, why did they made the characters more vocal

It really ought be a client side thing with a slider for how often Rae opens her whore mouth

>Strasser
>Strasserism
>left-wing nazis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasserism

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I was a long time then i switched to rae.

SWAT
>Infinite ammo zedtime and grenade that is get of jail free card for scrakes and fleshpounds
>buckets of ammo and can shoot for 8 years before a reload
>spawn with full armor and 9mm to sell

Survivalist
>does less damage with any weapon than actual perk would
>can choose to be shitty version of trash clear or shitty version of big zed clear
>medic grenade but still can't heal for shit
>OR extra weight and molotov that hurts self because no fire resistance

You could say that SWAT is a braindead version of commando but trying to argue survivalist being better than any perk is an absolute joke.

I never do the powerelevelbullshit, prestiging to lvl 10 is like 2 games, few more and you're 15, you can do anything by then

Survivalist gets 25% runs peed with melee weapons. That, the elite reload with heavy weapons, the medic nades and the damage resistance make him infinitely more useful at clutching and running circles than swat, support, firebug, demo or commando.

Is there a reason to play swat over commando? I dont really have a handle on what classes are for aside the obvious ones (demo/SS/gunslinger kill big things etc)

>I'm bored! Is that wrong?

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>favorite character gets in
>is a costume
I hope that at least DAR gets a Chickenator costume next halloween

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Is there even a reason to weld in KF2? In 1 I was WELDING THIS DOAR often in order to control the flow of enemies, but in KF2 it seems like an afterthought, even with being able to fix doors and having demos put bombs on them.

you have an easier time with scrakes and can mow down trash a bit faster

SWAT is a filler perk if you have already a Commando, so you can avoid unnecessary double ZED time extensions and profit from trash clearing abilities after hitting 25 on one position while the Mando clears/extends on the other.

>super great.png
Thank you well

>No nuke
>No infinite zed spam or zed extension
>Taking elite reload for heavy weapons means you're shit for reloads with trash clearing weapons, which you would be carrying too
>Damage resistance when every enemy on HoE does 8x hit combos
>Melee with no health regen
You're giving up the ability to do anything competently just to run faster with a knife out and reload faster with some of the big boi weapons. You can't heal like medic and your damage resistance is a wet noodle compared to an actual berserker. Survivalist is shit.

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SWAT
>Infinite ammo zedtime and grenade that is get of jail free card for scrakes and fleshpounds
Needs to rely purely on commando extensions. Grenade does essentially the same as Sharp's, doesn't work on raged FPs.
>buckets of ammo and can shoot for 8 years before a reload
Burns through ammo insanely fast and the first person on the team to run dry if you go full-auto the whole time.
>spawn with full armor and 9mm to sell
Makes it good for wave 1 only.

Survivalist
>does less damage with any weapon than actual perk would
>can choose to be shitty version of trash clear or shitty version of big zed clear
Railgun is better on a Survivalist than a goddamn Sharp. Also Zedsplosion makes a lot of viable & fun weapon loadout combos.
>medic grenade but still can't heal for shit
It does just fine, you're too spoiled being babysat by medic buffs.
>OR extra weight and molotov that hurts self because no fire resistance
You got me there on the molotov, but the passive dmg resist makes armor last longer than SWAT's. Also, the ability to pull out a knife and go fast comes in handy.

>You're giving up the ability to do anything competently just to run faster with a knife out and reload faster with some of the big boi weapons.
The only thing you need in this game is movement speed to outrun trash and raged scrakes and a reload cancelled railgun.

>people ITT unironically defending the pathetic state of the perk known as SWAT
Absolutely disgusting.

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Why does KF2 have like next to no custom servers? I really enjoyed those back in KF1 and there's almost none in KF2. Do people not mod the game as much as they modded KF1 or what? I miss the turrets, RPG system, and new Zeds that custom servers had.

KF1KF2 custom servers

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finally Yea Forums has come around, the shilling was insufferable

is the matriarch still not in?
she was supposed to be in a mech right? or am i misremembering?

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>every update makes the game 5GB bigger
>forced to move it off my SSD onto a HDD
>initial load time goes from 30 seconds to 200+ seconds
But why?

Also, what state is the Helios in now? I played the beta and it was overpowered, turned Firebug into the best all-rounder perk.

>gunslinger
>dual revolvers
>if you press R when full you spin them like revolver ocelot
>dont even have to aim
>just pop heads off
it just feels way to good to be legal

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>Railgun is better on a Survivalist than a goddamn Sharp.
Railgun is meme garbage when M99 and M14 are options for sharp.
>It does just fine, you're too spoiled being babysat by medic buffs.
If someone is going to play babysitter healer wouldn't it be better to have the grenade that buffs people vs the one that doesn't?

Reload cancelling is cancer and should have stayed gone.

No one plays on custom servers, so no one really runs them.
Friend and I run a Zedternal server for months already and it barely has anyone showing up, the standard Endless/Survival servers are filled most of the day tho.

I didn't play it in beta but it's insane
loads in 15 sec for me

that's weird, in KF1 it was the opposite. Custom servers were extremely popular and still are in KF1.

SWAT is undefendable, it's playable and that's pretty much it nobody is trying to defend it.

The biggest joke about SWAT is that he's just a sub-machine guy while the Survivalist can actually play with a proper SWAT loadout that ranges from SMGs/ARs to Shotguns with even the Pulverizer and have bonuses on all of those.

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>still haven't replace SWAT's tiny dickass knife with a rehashed Bone Crusher into Riot Shield and baton to make it more unique
I'm livid

Yes i remember this game, one of the very few games that reminded me nothing is sacred anymore.
Boy i was so excited for this shit, only to be absolutely devastated to see valve-tier cosmetics being added into the game literally when the game was still in a beta.
And the things haven't changed, they shilled the "240fps weapon animations" while forgetting everything else.
I'm still mad that i couldn't refund this piece of fucking garbage.
KF1 is miles better than this zoomer piece of shit game.
>there are people in this thread that don't even remember the golden potato event
Disgusting mongrels, all of you.
God i fucking hate Tripwire.
I hope they go bankrupt before they ruin Red Orchestra too.

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>the m99
>an option
The m99 is a meme. Railgun is always better. And that is before taking into account reload cancelling and and abusing the railgun bug to do full damage with auto aim.

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imo, early access completely Killed KF2, that shit should have never have been there in the first place, then maybe tripwire would have bothered to finish the fucking game before abandoning it

>I hope they go bankrupt before they ruin Red Orchestra too.
they already ruined RO, RO2 was a casualised piece of shit they tried there best to fuck over and it only got worse since it released

>use medic rifle and double barrel shotgun as medic
>friends call it a stupid playstyle
>able to get scrakes and fleshpounds off my back and even kill them from time-to-time
>the biggest detractor adopts it and claims he started it
>mfw

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Swats knife really is ridiculously small. It fits the perk and players of the perk perfectly.

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>full damage auto aim bug railgun
you've got to be shitting me twatwire

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Is the claymore still the best Berserker weapon?
Felt so fucking good to mash up scrakes and fps with the heavy attack perk.

>join a server that bans anybody playing as Rae
>pick D.A.R. so the other players have to hear Rae's voice anyway

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Before the summer update shitshow 101+401+katana+dbs was the meta medic loadout.

You can go with any weapon with zerk if you just learn their own combos.
Claymore is still viable, now there is a nu-Dwarf Axe that sends anything to the shadow realm in 2-3 heavy hit combos, and there´s also the powerfists, EMP stuns zeds, hits like a truck and are quite fast.

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That loadout is still viable (and arguably the most fun) but damn it the 501 has helped me carry some of the shittiest HoE pubs I've ever had the displeasure of running into.

>powerfists
tfw katana +3 and fists +1 would've been the martial artist loadout

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I think this game is popular enough to warrant a /vg/ thread

There used to be a general but nobody gives enough of a damn anymore. Fucking kf2g even made an artist give the Survivalist perk girl a dick.

I just love them, they also fits like a glove with DAR

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That loadout unfortunately doesn't work anymore because they increased the weight of the dbs and the katana. Now you pretty much have to decide if you want to get a melee to derage fleshpounds safer, to get the dbs for utility or to get the xbow for fp/sc killing power. Not really a fan of the 501 desu but it definitely works.

Died due to tripwire taking forever.

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>People hate Rae but not DJ Skully

Explain? I thought it was because Rae was wacky and told a lot of jokes, but that's clearly not it.

It's the high pitched voice that breaks glass.

So what is the least played perk in the game besides survivalist? It’s gotta be between SWAT and sharpshooter.

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Based fuck the op shill

Combination of a grating voice,face made out of puddi and that godawful dress.

game died because its shit

Who was your favourite character/perk/weapon from kf1?
I loved dj scully/sharpshooter/lever action rifle.

Sharpshooter probably, since it usually get's outclassed by Funslinger and because it covers a quite specific role, even Demolitions covers more ground that him.

I wish it was firebug.

Mate the only thing better about 1 is the lever action, hand cannon and welding system.
Still wish 2 didn't have such clunky collision on the map though.

Too lazy to post what has already been said.

Op shill utterly BTFO

>Medic
>Support
>SWAT
>SS
Medic is dying out because Commando has access to his Arsenal, so he can heal and DPS.
Support is simply not interesting enough of a perk and is only strong when played with the 30% damage skill.
SWAT is trashkiller most people play wrong and start shooting FPs with.
and last being SS because people simply have too much trouble playing the perk.

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Game is far from dead for being a 5 years old horde shooter, general died in the early access period, when there was barely any comunication with the devs and updates were very slow with little content.
All the great stuff started after 1.0

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Buddy if the majority of your players consists of bots that farm tickets, Russians and BRs then your game is dead. It's the last nail in the coffin for every game.

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Sharpshooter sucks because the classes weapons suck. The centerfire is usable by GS as well. The class needs a bolt action rifle or something interesting to use.

5k players at all time is fine for a COOP shooter that requires only a couple of people each match.
The only people who notice a low population are the ones playing HOE probably.

They're all dead it's tIME to go SHOpping

KF1 had sub 3k playercount since it was released

Once you've played pub hoe for a few weeks you've probably seen most of the names masochistic enough to do that regularly.

>BIG BELGIAN!

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nigger you only need 1 dedicated server, that's it
it does not fucking matter if the playerbase is 500k or 5k or 50 players

you need players on that dedicated server, just having a server doesnt make your game not dead, in that case lots of dead games wouldnt be considered dead

Anyone else feel like the UMP feels closer to the Bullpup from KF1 than to bullpup from KF2 does?

>that map
>imagine being the map autor and being so autistic that you delete your map from the workshop because of throwing a hissy fit over a game update

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Nazis are already left wing.
They're socialists after all.

Based

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You need the reskin mod from the workshop.