DO NOT BUY BL3

Whats the issue brother?

What games have valve intentionally paid for to only release on their store?

Competition is good, exclusives are cancer on PC.

On consoles, you can argue different hardware, but on PC, exclusivity is pure jewery.

The only exception would be when it's a 1st party game i. e. WoW on Blizzards launcher or TF2 on Steam.

NYPA

I can't believe pctards are crying just because they need to download another launcher

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IF YOU ARE A TRUE SUPPORTER OF FREE PC GAMING THEN YOU WILL REVIEW BOMB EVERY GAME THAT GETS CAPTURED BY THIS SHIT
I love Borderlands, the whole series, been playing for years, but im going, right now, to spam negative reviews with multiple accounts on multiple platforms, and there's at least a drop of decency still left in you, dear fan of this game, you should too do so.
Make them understand that we will not accept their shit any longer.
Review bomb all 3 of the borderlands games, dlcs too, EVERYTHING.

If Valve paid so that publishers wouldn't release on other platforms then I would react the exact same way. That's the point. I'm not bashing Epic for doing it. I'm bashing the act itself. It's just coincidental that Epic is the one doing it in the PC market. I also don't support exclusivity in the console market and resolved more than a decade ago to not buy games that are released as exclusive to one platform.

I understand not liking console exclusivity because you'd have to buy a console to play the game, but launcher exlusivity only requires you to download the launcher. It just comes off as "new thing bad".

Your lack of "understanding" is not my problem. You don't know why it's bad for customers because you literally don't want to know. You've avoided examining why it's bad. I could offer you up many reasons and you will ignore all of them. I just explained to you it's not about what launcher or storefront is involved. The concept of removing customer choice is anti-consumer. This alone should be enough.

you're either baiting, a chinese shill or just don't understand any of the reasons behind hating the epic store

>I love Borderlands, the whole series
That's not something an actual human being says. Nobody loves Borderlands.

>only requires
So your argument is, because an inconvenience is minor, it doesn't exist?

That's kinda hot.

If your idea of being inconvenienced is having to downloading a free launcher then you need to move out of your parent's house

This is a really shitty argument. Companies are not entitled to anyone's money. Customers get to choose how to spend their money. It is their right to refuse to spend money for any reason whatsoever, even if you would consider it minor. Arguing against this concept is arguing against your own interests as a customer.

I'm literally shaking guys, I don't want to live in a world where I have to use two store clients.

borderlands was never good

EA and Bugthesda created the Epic store specifically to destroy single player games, force microtransactions and diversity down our throats and commit Gamer genocide, yet this sub lines up to give EA more money by buying an overpriced launcher. Steam is literally free, but everyone on this sub is excited to spend money on the Epic launcher just to line EA executives pockets.

I just don't get it. The Epic store is literally the worst terrorist attack in human history and you EA shills can't get enough. You're actually happy about EA literally murdering the entire gaming industry.

Should really just change the name of this sub to "/r/EAShills" at this point. You obsessively defending EA at every opportunity is disgusting. Fuck EA and fuck this EA fanboy sub.

*Edit: apparently you fucking EA shills are like "EA and Epic aren't even the same company, and the Epic launcher is free, what the fuck are you on about?" and you know what. FUCK YOU YOU STUPID KEK SHILLS THAT ISN'T THE POINT. EA FUCKING SUCKS. BETHESDA FUCKING SUCKS. EA KILLED GAMING! FUCK THIS SHILL SUB FUCK YOU.

My idea of being inconvenienced is having my game library split among multiple tools. My idea of being inconvenienced is having to boot up a separate program, that doesn't support my controller configurations, for a single game that I want to play.

It's not the act of downloading software that bothers me, I do that every time I buy a game anyway. It's having a game library and then also having another thing over here with 3 games in it. Fuck that stupid goddamn noise and fuck you for supporting it.

I would play it with my friends since it's kinda fun to do so. They are to lazy to download and don't want use not steam, so I just won't buy it I guess.

>I love Borderlands

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I'm tempted to buy rage 2 instead and tweet it at sweeney and randy desu
originally I wasn't gonna buy it because it was a bethesda store exclusive but they changed that and since BL3 isn't actually coming out till 2020 I might as well use that money on another game

Are people talking shit to Randy on twitter yet? I hope so.

As if anybody needed more reasons to hate on Randy, I bet people talk shit to him every day.

>THEN YOU WILL REVEIW BOMB...
hang yourself cheng

i am going to pirate it

Epic launcher doesn't allow for consumer reviews though, and why would you wait 6 months to hate on it on the platform you wanted it to be on? Life's too short to keep screeching at something so infinitely pointless.

GAMERS RISE UP!

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I waited alot longer for GTAV to come to PC, I can wait 6 months for Borderlands 3 to also come to PC.

Lmaoing at you Steamshills

Wouldn't surprise me if they severely limited those to make it appear more sought after. Considering Disney is buying seats for their own movies to inflate their box office opening weekend numbers I wouldn't put it past them, especially when there's nothing to lose.

I'm waiting til april too. I'm just saying what's the point in being rumproasted for 6 months?

I plan to do just that

don't you niggas have something better to do with your lives than to keep hating on stuff? just pirate the game like a normal person or better yet waiting 6 months isn't going to kill you

>The console version is sold out! Take that Steam!
You're fucking retarded lmao

OH NO NO NO NO NO STEAM BROS
6 MONTHS WITHOUT BORDERLANDS 3
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?

Buying the game on Steam however many months later is just as bad as buying it on Epic. It tells the publishers that they have permission to sell exclusivity because customers still purchase the game elsewhere later.

This. Never give your money to these assholes.

I wasn't gonna buy it anyway. If any of you were then big yikes.

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>I love borderlands, the whole series

Thats where you fucked up user.

fuck off steam shill nigger
imagine being so underage that you care about your hours and le gayming achievements being in one place so you can brag to your le epyc le thunder le crazy gaymer friends!
Fuck off underage.

Why is it okay to suck corporate cock when valve is involved?

Why the fuck didn't people wake up to this gay ass activism when everything was starting to force you to use fucking steam?

I’m not buying it because I refuse to pay more than $30 for a game. Fuck inflation

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Epic Games' EULA

4. User Generated Content

Any content that you create, generate, or make available through the Epic Games store application shall be “UGC”. You hereby grant to Epic a non-exclusive, fully-paid, royalty-free, irrevocable, perpetual, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, distribute, prepare derivative works based on, publicly perform, publicly display, make, have made, use, sell, offer to sell, import, and otherwise exploit your UGC for any purposes, for all current and future methods and forms of exploitation in any country. You may not create, generate, or make available any UGC to which you do not have the right to grant Epic such license. In addition, you may not create, generate, or make available any UGC that is illegal or violates or infringes another’s rights, including intellectual property rights or privacy, publicity or moral rights. Epic reserves the right to take down any UGC in its discretion.

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Refusing to suck Epic cock is not sucking Valve's cock. Get that through your fucking head.

Dude paying over 5 dollars for a digital game is robbery.

Epic Game's EULA

8. Indemnity

This section only applies to the extent permitted by applicable law. If you are prohibited by law from entering into the indemnification obligation below, then you assume, to the extent permitted by law, all liability for all claims, demands, actions, losses, liabilities, and expenses (including attorneys’ fees, costs and expert witnesses’ fees) that are the stated subject matter of the indemnification obligation below.

You agree to indemnify, pay the defense costs of, and hold harmless the Epic Parties and their respective employees, officers, directors, agents, contractors, and other representatives from all claims, demands, actions, losses, liabilities, and expenses (including attorneys’ fees, costs, and expert witnesses’ fees) that arise from or in connection with (a) any claim that, if true, would constitute a breach by you of this Agreement or negligence by you, (b) any act or omission by you in using the Software or Services, or (c) any claim of infringement or violation of any third-party intellectual-property rights arising from Epic’s use of your UGC or Feedback. You agree to reimburse the Epic Parties on demand for any defense costs incurred by the Epic Parties and any payments made or loss suffered by the Epic Parties, whether in a court judgment or settlement, based on any matter covered by this Section 8.

lol this retarded underage monkey thinks steam doesn't sell his privacy too

>the state of the PC mustard race

ching chong

WTF DOWNLOAD MY SPYWARE NOW

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10 cents has been deposited into your Steam account. Thank you for being a brainless monkey that sucks corporate cock, we look forward to working with you again!

Steam Privacy Policy Agreement

2. Why Valve Collects and Processes Data

Valve collects and processes Personal Data for the following reasons:

a) where it is necessary for the performance of our agreement with you to provide a full-featured gaming service and deliver associated Content and Services;
b) where it is necessary for compliance with legal obligations that we are subject to (e.g. our obligations to keep certain information under tax laws);
c) where it is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate and legal interests of Valve or a third party (e.g. the interests of our other customers), except where such interests are overridden by your prevailing legitimate interests and rights; or
d) where you have given consent to it.

These reasons for collecting and processing Personal Data determine and limit what Personal Data we collect and how we use it (section 3. below), how long we store it (section 4. below), who has access to it (section 5. below) and what rights and other control mechanisms are available to you as a user (section 6. below).

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Steam Privacy Policy Agreement

5. Who Has Access to Data

5.1 Valve and its subsidiaries may share your Personal Data with each other and use it to the degree necessary to achieve the purposes listed in section 2. above. In the event of a reorganization, sale or merger we may transfer Personal Data to the relevant third party subject to applicable laws.

5.2 We may also share your Personal Data with our third party providers that provide customer support services in connection with goods, Content and Services distributed via Steam. Your Personal Data will be used in accordance with this Privacy Policy and only as far as this is necessary for performing customer support services.

5.3 In accordance with internet standards, we may also share certain information (including your IP address and the identification of Steam content you wish to access) with our third party network providers that provide content delivery network services and game server services in connection with Steam. Our content delivery network providers enable the delivery of digital content you have requested, e.g. when using Steam, by using a system of distributed servers that deliver the content to you, based on your geographic location.

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stop giving me you's you brainless corporate steam shill, I already preorded borderlands 3

I know he's memeing but the fact that there's people on here that actually, unironically think that review bombing does anything at all is fucking sad.

I'm too lazy to review bomb it. Might also pirate it if Bitchford doesn't fill it with neuter opinions.

5.4 We make certain data related to your Steam User Account available to other players and our partners through the Steamworks API. This information can be accessed by anyone by querying your Steam ID. At a minimum, the public persona name you have chosen to represent you on Steam and your Avatar picture are accessible this way, as well as whether you have received a ban for cheating in a multiplayer game. The accessibility of any additional info about you can be controlled through your Steam Community user profile page; data publicly available on your profile page can be accessed automatically through the Steamworks API.
In addition to the publicly available information, game developers and publishers have access to certain information from the Steamworks API directly relating to the users of the games they operate. This information includes as a minimum your ownership of the game in question. Depending on which Steamworks services are implemented in the game it may also include leaderboard information, your progress in the game, achievements you have completed, your multiplayer game matchmaking information, in-game items and other information needed to operate the game and provide support for it. For more information on what Steamworks services a specific game has implemented, please review its store page.
While we do not knowingly share Personally Identifying Information about you through the Steamworks API such as your real name or your email address, any information you share about yourself on your public Steam Profile can be accessed through the Steamworks API, including information that may make you identifiable.

Agreed, FUCK EPIC.

Think this is legit?

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Didn't know Valve was doing this bad if they need to shill steam on Yea Forums.

Such a shame I’m a ps4 user. Sorry I can’t help the cause :^p

Im just gonna wait until the steam version and buy that.

5.5 The Steam community includes message boards, forums and/or chat areas, where users can exchange ideas and communicate with each other. When posting a message to a board, forum or chat area, please be aware that the information is being made publicly available online; therefore, you are doing so at your own risk. If your Personal Data is posted on one of our community forums against your will, please use the reporting function and the Steam help site to request its removal.

5.6 Valve may allow you to link your Steam User Account to an account offered by a third party. If you consent to link the accounts, Valve may collect and combine information you allowed Valve to receive from a third party with information of your Steam User Account to the degree allowed by your consent at the time. If the linking of the accounts requires the transmission of information about your person from Valve to a third party, you will be informed about it before the linking takes place and you will be given the opportunity to consent to the linking and the transmission of your information. The third party's use of your information will be subject to the third party's privacy policy, which we encourage you to review.

5.7 Valve may release Personal Data to comply with court orders or laws and regulations that require us to disclose such information.

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>b-b-b-but Steam

every time

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The fact there's people here who unironically will pay for a gearbox or ubisoft game makes me think this place is just reddit and twitter niggers now and nobody who originally browsed Yea Forums is even here anymore at all.

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ching chong

>corporate shilling
>I am basically pasting what Epic's EULA and Steam's Privacy Policy Agreement say

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Friendly reminder to report the steam shill, this is Yea Forumsideo games, not /m/y shitty platform is dying and I'm not letting epic win!

why wouldn't I pay for Rayman Legends? it's a great game fucker

That's the worst story of all time, can't even copypasta is properly.

I highly doubt it but if true thats pretty based and I will play it.

Because you're a normalfag with shitty taste.

Why is it okay to make Jesus jokes but if they made this cover into any other religion people would complain?

Pointless thread. All of you dumb fucks are going to buy it anyways. I hope most of you at least pirate it if anything. And if you're that intent on buying it, at least wait until they inevitably drop the goty edition where it'll be the game + every dlc ever created for it for probably $20. They do it every time.

>$250 lootcrates

>you can only be a REAL pc gamer if you partake in my stupid, completely unnecessary platform war!
fuck off

>THEN YOU WILL REVIEW BOMB EVERY GAME THAT GETS CAPTURED BY THIS SHIT
no i wont. i just won't buy any game that does it. review bombing does nothing. not breaking down and giving them your money is what everyone should do. don't pay attention to epic and pirate everyone of their games until they actually become a consumer friendly store, which is a snowball's chance in hell, but you never know.

wrong

I might buy it when it's on Steam yeah, but I'm not installing Tencent's malware on my computer.

0.03 shekels have been deposited into your steam wallet

Explain to a low IQ idiot like me what I'm seeing here please. I get from context it's bad but what exactly is happening?

You'll still buy it.
Just accept it.
Steam is a monopoly.
Competition is good.
See Consoles.

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>GUYS EPIC IS LE CHINESE BOTNET
>let's completely ignore the fact that Steam also literally sells user data, knows your hardware, and partakes in illegal gambling by doing CSGO lootcrates, keys and other shit tho
>hehe, nothing wrong with that
>anyway
>EPIC LE BIG BAD CHINESE BOTNET

lmao review bombing a 50 year old game. You're not helping anyone especially steams reputation

shut the fuck up chang

>steamshills get btfo in the thread earlier by failing to prove epic games store is spyware
>cope with this thread

The game is trash anyway, who the fuck cares? Only tasteless normalfags and kids like these fucking games.

Buy whatever you want because the free market is a broken system where retards can vote with their wallet multiple times and ruin it for everyone else.

>$250 epic edition with season passes and lootcrates

Lol no, if yall scared of getting hscked just set up a 2 step.

Hating Epic is perfectly valid. Hating Steam is perfectly valid.
Jumping to the defense of one and gobbling on those corporate cocks just because you don't like the other one of them?
Come on user. You're better than that, aren't you?

>competition is good
he says, as he supports a store that blocks 99% of third party stores to eliminate price competition.

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Third party stores that only sold steam keys.

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This
The only defense epic cock smokers have is "muh pcbros" as if origin, uplay, and the blizzard launcher don't exist and already have exclusive games.
The problem is not that it isn't steam, the problem is the launcher is shit and does nothing other launchers do better.

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Nobody was gonna buy that shit anyway dude

This, kek

Which still resulted in competitive prices.

they block uplay stores too

But also Origin and Uplay keys

...

>origin and uplay
Who?

Competition would be allowing the game to release on both platforms, and letting the better platform naturally rise to the top.

>I have a pic that proves you will buy it

Have sex

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>IF YOU ARE A TRUE SUPPORTER OF FREE PC GAMING THEN YOU WILL
install Linux and only play open source games for the rest of your life

address the point or don't post

proof?

The game will sell like Hot cakes regardless so why bother

I mean anybody who's using origin and Uplay are total cucks and their opinions don't matter in the slightest.

Reddit hates epic store so I think we should support it.

>I'm supposed to listen to some incel who likes the Borderlands series
Yeah no

Greenmangaming, cdkeys.com to name a couple.

Holy shit btfo so badly steambabies are responding in mass.

This is so true. Buy on humble bundle? Steam keys. Gmg? Steam keys. Grey market like G2A? Steam KEYS.

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not an argument. they still eliminate price competition.

Don't forget your open sourced GPU drivers

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Woops.

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The argument is that the only reason to get uplay and origin are for exclusives and their exclusives have been tanking.

don't list gmg if you don't know they also sell keys for other stores

Check them for Division 2

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How exactly would it be "free PC gaming" if it were a Steam exclusive instead of an Epic exclusive?

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>before epic:
>hey that division 2 and anno 1800 looks fun
>choose from 90 uplay stores worldwide
>after epic:
>hey that new division 2 and anno looks nice
>choose from 2 stores worldwide
defend this

this is reverse false flag marketing btw, dont fall for it. They have some faggot edgy hip intern saying LMAO I GOT IT, WE'LL TELL THESE REBELLIOUS GUYS TO NOT BUY IT, AND THEY WONT! GENIUS!

OP means getting your arm twisted to release on specific stores isn't a "free" market. Devs releasing on stores simply because they want to, and through no bribery or shady deals, is freeing.

Point Is. EVERYONE who love borderlands and wants to play online will buy it on the epic launcher. Pirates will pirate like always, and it will make more profit for the developers since stream and gaben are fucking Jews which is worse than chinks.

I hope steam finally gets competition. Fucking greedy shits haven't had any good sales in years.

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Which Valve still got a 30% cut of no matter where it was sold.

Cringe

Why are you addressing him with insults that would be more appropriate for yourself?

gmg doesn't sell division 2 its been out of stock since release because the epic deal forbids them from selling it.

I don't see how giving developers a bigger cut of the money is twisting their arm.

And there would be nothing wrong with Epic doing the same thing with their keys. Nobody is insisting that Epic shouldn't be allowed to compete with Steam. The problem is Epic is doing whatever it can to NOT compete with Steam.

See you during the Spring sale soon!

>249.99

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in before avalanche of articles claiming and one who doesn't like the epic store is an alt right gamergater

Those dog goned goober gobblers.

piracy is the answer.

>thinking division 2 looks good
I can't, you're terminally fucking retarded.

>be console user
>Always hear about how great PC is because you can download different stores and get different games and not tied to one store like steam

>Epic launcher comes out
>Nothing but bitching because they have exclusives
>Meanwhile steam also has exclusives
Meanwhile origin and w10 have exclusives
>Still complaining.

>When Bayonetta 2 came out and Nintendo got EXCLUSIVE rights PS4 and Xbox owners congratulated Nintendo for getting Bayonetta

>This BL3 is exclusive on a platform for only a few months

>PC race starts bawwwing

Good lord you're a fucking bunch of crybabies. Grow up.

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But nobody remembers borderlands except the kids that bought TPS and the TellTale game. That's not enough to make it big.

>ad hominem
thanks for conceding the argument

[citation needed]

No. I'm gonna buy it, and leave my first ever review just to offset one of yours

He's completely right though. You are retarded. Your taste is terminally shit and you should pick a different hobby.

>bought metro on epic weeks ago
>checkout page errored out and took my money, never got the game
>support hasn't responded
Can't wait to get banned after my bank processes the chargeback.

>When Bayonetta 2 came out and Nintendo got EXCLUSIVE rights PS4 and Xbox owners congratulated Nintendo for getting Bayonetta

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Get people on the phone if you want something done. Always. It's easy to ignore a ticket. It's harder to ignore someone who keeps calling.

>>Which Valve still got a 30% cut of no matter where it was sold.
Valve doesn't get a 30% cut if a game sells outside of steam

Picture this, you sell a game with a physical copy at gamestop, gamestop takes their cut and then in your scenario valve takes a cut, the publisher would get jack shit out of that sale

game taste is subjective. the point is eliminating price competition and consumer choice. address the point or just concede again.

fake

I'm not buying Borderlands 3 because I already have 4 PC storefronts installed. That's not including the 2 current gen consoles I own.

I rather wait 6 months than buy the game on launch, simply because I'm a lazy faggot.

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This, amazingly enough reating the streetshitter on the phone nicely when you can't understand what the fuck they're say turns them to jelly in your hands. They'll just give you free shit.

*wads your faggot twink body up and throws it away into the trash* wow that was easy, guess I win this argument.

Nobody was arguing your point. They were shitting on your taste.

I'm buying it at 100% off from TPB

>When Bayonetta 2 came out and Nintendo got EXCLUSIVE rights PS4 and Xbox owners congratulated Nintendo for getting Bayonetta

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I'm just going to get it on PS4 first . I'll get it on steam later.

>I rather wait 6 months
Epic fags confirmed for steam beta testers

Meh, who cares? If it's not going to be on Steam, then its not going to been on Steam. Just means that I'm not going to play it.

Borderlands is shit, the fanbase is shit, and I'm glad BL3 is a timed EGS exclusive

>I hope steam finally gets competition
Steam had competition for years: GoG, Origin, Uplay, itch[.]io if you're a weirdo and probably a lot of other ways to get PC games that didn't rely on steam. Epic is just buying itself a share with this kind of behavior, this is competition sure, but it's far from healthy. This kind of shitty tactic will only make steam double down on funneling more games with more agressive pricing just to make sure you stick around. I highly doubt Steam will get better and I highly doubt that Epic will ever be a good platform for games and for players if its only way of making you stay is to buy exclusives and forcing you to go through them if you want to play the games on lauch. "Competition" is a fucking joke, because it won't be about who will give the players the best experience and the more hassle-free way to buy games if it were the case GoG would be the place to be but it isn't it will be about how you can fuck over consumers.

>>be console user
remember when ps3 shills and nintendo shills used to make fun of xbox live and when sony and nintendo did the same thing you guys were like 'wow are you guys poorfags or what'
I won't feel bad for you when consoles go full streaming and you can't play a game because your jewish ISP had a data cap and your internet is slow.

>I hope steam finally gets competition.
it was always there, you just never used the other stores because you swallowed too many memes.

>real gamers are on ps3
lmao

I'm buying it on PS4 you seething autist lmfao.

>rs: GoG, Origin, Uplay, itch[.]io

no. That wasn't competition. Them selling steam keys isn't competition

shut up steamdrone

>GoG, Origin, Uplay
>Them selling steam keys isn't competition
You're fucking retarded.

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none of them sell steam keys, what are you on about ?

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gog doesn't sell steam keys
origin sells their own keys and has third party games like ubi games on their own store
uplay signed deals with third parties in 2013 to sell third party games but you kept swallowing the meme pills instead
stop posting the same tired non arguments

>That wasn't competition. Them selling steam keys isn't competition
Are you stupid? Find me a steam key for battlefield 3 through 5 right now

nice shill damage control retard

It's pretty sad the only reason to use orgin is to play a game that hates it playerbase

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>suddenly a bunch of people stop posting in this thread

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>thread continues because steam also does the same shit.

EPIC BAD, STEAM GOOD

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You are everything wrong with the industry.

>b..but Steam!

Way to shift the goal posts, the argument is that origin only sells steam keys
Find me a steam key for mass effect 3 then, or titanfall 1 or 2
You can't do it, that's the whole point.

wojak posting should be an instant ban here like it is on Yea Forums

The argument is that you're defending a launcher with only one franchise.

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>instant ban here like it is on Yea Forums

is that true

>if you are a true supporter of free pc gaming you'll only support games being on a single store

Why are PCtards such morons?

I'm gonna pre-order now. Thanks OP.

You think they're less cucked than here?

>I have no idea what a monopoly is
Bruh just because steam is the biggest player in the PC games market doesnt mean its a monopoly.

I find it more problematic that you like Borderlands. Get some taste faggot

>Them selling steam keys isn't competition
That was the argument you can meme all you want but you can't change facts. I don't think you've ever used origin or steam and I'm starting to think you don't even play games on PC because this shit is common knowledge.

make up your mind user-kun
are we debating taste in games or your defeated argument about those stores only being used for steam keys

>I love Borderlands
Leddit is the other way pal

The argument is you're defending launchers with only one franchise

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>if your against one monopoly you must be for another monopoly.
Yeah, you should stop spreading your shit gor brains opinion.

>steam
>free pc gaming
cute. bought two copies to play co-op with my girlfriend. I'd buy one more if that would take you one step closer to suicide, you mentally impaired autist

Continue soiling your diapers over a desktop icon, moron

>whataboutism

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>play co-op with my girlfriend
larp
girls don't play games and you don't have a girlfriend

i just want to play and talk about my video games

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>oooh, I take gaming seriously. I'm the superhero gaming needs, not deserves
kill yourself lol

I'm in control of my own money. Does this upset you, little bitch?

Too bad, this is Yea Forums now. (((and that's good)))

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keep seething, incel, I'm sure that will make it true

too late
between epic, stadia, woke game devs, and console companies it's not that simple

then why did you come to this worthless thread

sounds like you have or can produce the steam version of that image. can't wait to see it!

cope

James stop posting, you didn't get permission from the discord.

>bnet
SJWs took over OW and are nibbling at the plot of WoW, which also has evolved into an impenetrable edifice of suck. OG Blizzard no longer exists. Grim Dawn destroys all versions of ARPG ever created at this point in time. Deleted.

>Uplay
Uwot m8

>Origin/EA
lol
>Games for windows
I have their OS so I'm a little stuck for this crap, and they mostly gave up on this bullshit afaik. I want to play Dead State 2 and won't until it comes to steam.

>DO NOT BUY BL3
okay
>REVIEW BOMB EVERY GAME THAT...
oh for fucks sake. Isn't not buying and eventually pirating the game thus depriving them of my cash not enough for you faggot?

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>Grim Dawn destroys all versions of ARPG ever created at this point in time.
I still maintain that Dungeon Runners was the best diabloclone of all time, fight me

Nioh is the best Diablo clone. Goldeneye is the best doomclone. Dwarf Fortress is the best roguelike. Smash is the best fighting game. FF7 is the best turn based strategy.

Business men don't understand videogames.
If a game doesn't sell well, they just shrug and go "oh well, the market changed. we couldn't have predicted this!"
The product is never at fault unless the reviews are clear and undeniable.

Hypocrisy.

Nioh is not a diabloclone.

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The only joke here is you being too young to remember when things were unironically called Diabloclones.

>EA shutting down studios left and right
>"The product is never at fault"

I was playing video games when you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye, squirt.

Oh I'll be buying it... on PS4.

They shut down studios because clearly the market doesn't care for that brand anymore and those programmers would be more profitable on FIFA.
Notice how they never fire the dumb suits who keep buying studios and driving them into the ground.

also, steam already gimped review bombs. the only people who will enable them again are the same people who are outraged by epic's bullshit

Anyone playing the BL1 remaster have any luck matchmaking? Its like i'm stuck on the 360 again

Fact of the matter is if Borderlands 3 heavily monetized is Epic's Trump card they've got another thing coming.

it is enabled by default. you have to opt in to not see review bombs

Im getting the diamond chest edition

>TRUE SUPPORTER OF FREE PC GAMING
What the fuck is that? Just don't buy it if you don't want to see more of this bullshit.

I wonder if this EPIC BAD shitstorm is actual reverse psychology. Reading all these bitching posts only makes me support epic more.

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Are you literally trying to brag about being easily manipulated?

It certainly worked on me.
In the beginning I was a little worried when it came to security exploits, and spyware.

Reading up on it, and figuring out that it wasn't really a thing, I don't care anymore.
Now, knowing that Epic takes a much smaller cut of the games, I support Epic more than Steam.
With a little time they most likely have a good store, with most wanted features.

Epic haters are reddit zoomers.

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>review bombing
which is immediately dismissed by pretty much everyone, just don't buy it at all you mongoloid

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>Chinese business trying to undercut Americans
NO WAY

anyone else remember when 1 cent fags complained about humble bundle not giving steam keys for 1 cent donations? if you don't want steam keys just don't pay more

I'm human so I'm susceptible to manipulation, not really that strange. I'm aware of it at least.

You're not going to be susceptible to manipulation if your thoughts are already well informed in the first place. People who know better aren't swayed. So learn better instead of allowing yourself to swing in the breeze.

You know, we could also just not buy or play their game instead of review bombing it?

It'll send a clearer message.

It's a US company.

Here, have epic meme about how bad epic games is xD

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What's all about this rage against Epic? When i see this kind of threads i start imagine a kid raging himself behind a pc, it's fucking stupid. If Valve can have a launcher, if ubisoft can have a launcher, if EA can have a launcher, why can't Epic have one too? it's business, if you start a coffee house, are you expecting all the other coffee costumers complaining about you having a coffee house too? And Borderlands will be epic exclusive for only 6 fucking months, if you can't wait your faggot little ass, then stop this rage nonsense

I guess it's more of my annoyance and hate for these outrage addicted babies that make me want to support epic, good point.

yes, good goyim, fight for me, your trustworthy benevolent overlord!

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There's plenty of hate and plenty of stupid people on both sides of shit, but my stance on it is clear to be based on decisions I made many many years ago.

Why would we do that when we could give them tons of free publicity by review bombing old games?
It gives all the verified game "journalists" something to write articles about. You wouldn't want them to go hungry, or Borderlands 3 to fail, would you? Do your part and give the game the attention it deserves.

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>I don't understand Capitalism: The thread

There's clearly more outrage on the EPIC BAD side though.

Already preordered the CE before it sold out.

>Thinks capitalism is against exclusivity deals

same thing happened with fallout 76's premium edition

>Pee Cucks tell me for YEARS that I'm a retarded console fanboy who needs to stop defending my purchase
>literally shit and piss themselves over having to dowload another .exe
>out themselves as the biggest fucking fanboy faggots on the entire board
Even Nintendies aren't as rabid as you Valve drone faggots.

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Don't reach a conclusion based on whatever side is being more vocal. Look at the points and facts, not the rhetoric and asspain.

Indeed.
Epic is the clear winner then.

Retard doesn't understand why it's a problem in the first place. It's not a matter of downloading or using another program. That's arguing in bad faith. It's strawmanning the argument by bringing up something irrelevant and pretending like that is the issue.

Just because Epic is a DRM riddled piece of shit doesn't mean Steam isn't also a DRM riddled piece of shit, if perhaps to a lesser degree.

I hate both.

Can you explain as a customer why you would support a company that tries to limit your choices for where to purchase games? This results in higher prices for games for you; the customer.

Fake but still based and redpilled

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>2021
>steam is a minor, messy shovelware outlet, similar to newgrounds flash games
>Yea Forums still raging each day about not coming to steam
screencap this

not that guy btw. While i think thats wrong, im happy youre thinking at least.

>Thinks capitalism isn't about choosing where to spend your money based on product quality

just bought it. Thanks Yea Forums. Wouldn't had done it without your absolute shit post.

Does this mean that Epic knows about all of my eroge?

Get over yourself retard all you need to do is download another fucking .exe, with consoles you have to pay $400+. This is how competition has worked in the video game space for decades, because people buy a console and get games for it that won't work on another console, so they obviously don't want to move over, hence exclusives are the way to make them move. Same shit with storefronts like Steam and years of accumulated licenses.

Get over yourself, you're not going to wait a full year for Steam release while your friends have a blast on release day. You're not going to pirate it either, because modern games rarely have LAN and you'd be forced to play it in SP, again while your friends coop.

This is actually pretty funny. It usually wouldn’t be but some of you are so butthurt it’s delicious

>You're not going to be susceptible to manipulation if your thoughts are already well informed in the first place.
yeah you are. even straight up experts on psychology and manipulation aren't immune to being manipulated themself.

This is not an argument. You've been eating shit for decades and you want other people to eat shit with you so you don't feel as bad about it. You deserve to eat shit because you won't stand up for yourself.

Facts aren't manipulative. You're an adult. You should be able to tell the difference between facts and opinions.

Yea Forums is 99% white

that's why it's so garbage

That's funny because you've been eating Steam's shit for decades and now that the shit has a different logo on it, you sperg out.

>You're not going to pirate it either, because modern games rarely have LAN and you'd be forced to play it in SP, again while your friends coop.

Every single Borderlands game has had LAN support

this
people are saying theyre going to buy a PS4 to play BL3 instead of downloading a free launcher

Agreed. The 1% of non-whites are really ruining this place.

That's the same shit you said before. It's a strawman and not an argument. I just explained this to you. You literally just made a post illustrating all of the shit you've been eating by being tied to your console purchase and you're flabbergasted why people in the PC marketplace aren't jumping for joy at it being heavy handed by Epic.

You're acting like there's no reason to complain.
YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING FOR YEARS.

>Yea Forums is 99% white

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They take a smaller cut for simply distributing the games.
They give a ton of financial security for developers who want to release exclusively to EGS.
They're creating a competing online store, to break the monopoly steam has.

Capitalism is about money, not about freedom.
If a company manages to buy the entire world, and decide every law and control everyone by means of money, that's still capitalism.

Review bombing is what literal pathetic and immature children do. Fuck off, not your personal army, go back to

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Have sex

There is nothing gayer than review-bombing, not even gay sex

99% sure you're balding and look like shit.

>They take a smaller cut for simply distributing the games.
>They give a ton of financial security for developers who want to release exclusively to EGS.
>They're creating a competing online store, to break the monopoly steam has.
This not only ignored my question, but it made several irrelevant points that have nothing to do with customers or why a customer would value these things.

It also makes a claim that Steam has a monopoly when Steam does not have a monopoly. It doesn't engage in monopolistic business practices like forcing exclusivity. Multiple storefronts exist alongside Steam, and Valve understands the benefit of working with them instead of trying to destroy them.

tl;dr: Answer the question.
Can you explain as a customer why you would support a company that tries to limit your choices for where to purchase games? This results in higher prices for games for you; the customer.

>Just accept that your computer will be data mined and all developers paid off to ensure your money is theirs

If you're going to shitpost like a retard at least be creative and don't reply to a post that's almost 2 hours old.

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Borderlands 3 isn't exclusive to any platform.
>b-but epic
Not a platform, it's still on pc

The definition of platform you have in your head is too narrow. I didn't say machinery.

that sounds pretty gay, user
I have other things I would rather be doing with my time

okay I did
now what?

Man its like living in 2003 again. dumbfucks like you said the SAME.EXACT.SHIT about steam.

Steam exclusives in a world where steam and epic are neck and neck is also a bad thing. You hope that developers release to all stores instead of just one because they were paid off.

>Capitalism is about money, not about freedom
>Founded in a country whose anthem calls it "The land of the free"

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fuck man have you seen some games go for up to $1.99? Shit's fucking dastardly

shit dude that's three whole mann co crates

>People getting their shitters shattered over a TIMED exclusive
>It's not even for a full year
Good god you Steambabies are pathetic.

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This. If Epic were selling the same games as Steam then Epic would need to compete with Steam over prices, or features that make their service more appealing to customers. Then Steam would do the same by reducing their prices or adding even more features to make their service more appealing to customers. That's actual competition and it benefits the customers. More choices is better for customers. Epic is trying to bypass this competition by making sure Steam can't sell the same games. So Epic has no reason to lower prices. So Epic has less of a reason to improve its service. All of that is bad for customers.

>capitalism was founded in the usa

You shills are all the same.

When only one company does it, it does not result in higher prices.
This is a limited time, Epic is buying exposure.

Steam is a monopoly, the other store fronts only have their exclusives, and nobody uses them for anything else.
Steam pay/bribe studios to not accept exclusive deals since they know they already have a monopoly on new titles.

The reasons I stated are very relevant points.

Steam does it to.

>google capitalism
>wikipedia has some sort of anime fanfiction of marxism vs capitalism
>because you can have true capitalism under a monarchy

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This kind of logic is retarded. Are car companies only competing if they both sell the same make/model of cars?

>SHILL SHILL SHILL
Dropped your hat.
I know you're too fat to bend over and pick it up, so lemme get it for you.

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This is straight off Reddit fuck off

Epic is trying to break Steams monopoly.
Even if Epic was better in every single way, they would not break steam.
Steam already holds your games hostage, you can't change store, because then steam is gonna execute your games.

By buying exclusivity for a time they break the monopoly that steam has. Epic cannot continue to pay for exclusivities for forever, it's a limited time.

in a roundabout way they did. A game releasing on anything other than steam will get lower sells do to many refusing to buy it if it isn't on steam or just not bothering to look elsewhere. So many games are only on steam because they wouldn't have a chance anywhere else due to this.

>Communists trying to save the gaming economy

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>When only one company does it, it does not result in higher prices.
If a company has exclusive rights to sell a game they have absolutely no outside incentive to reduce the price of that game. That's the fundamental reason why exclusivity is economically viable in the first place. When you're the only store that sells something people want you get to dictate the price. It ALWAYS results in higher prices than if there were multiple companies selling the same product. What you said here is unequivocally false. Absolutely false.
>This is a limited time, Epic is buying exposure.
It doesn't matter if it's 6 years or 6 days. It's unacceptable for companies to force their customers to have less options when it's reasonable for the game to be released on multiple storefronts.
>Steam is a monopoly
Steam is not a monopoly. You don't understand what a monopoly is. Being the biggest doesn't alone qualify it.
>Steam pay/bribe studios
This literally does not happen.
>The reasons I stated are very relevant points.
Maybe relevant to the incorrect lies you want to spit out, but it's still ignoring my question. All of it is ignoring my question. You're avoiding answering my question.

Can you explain as a customer why you would support a company that tries to limit your choices for where to purchase games? This results in higher prices for games for you; the customer.

Translation: WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>don't buy a potentially good game because I'm a total faggot
sure buddy

Steam isnt a monopoly though. AVTI and EA doesn't need them.

you didn't explain shit. This isn't hurting the PC market because it is still on the PC market or the same price

jumping to what you perceive as the poster's ideology because you're a dumb fucking faggot without two brain cells to rub together

>IF YOU ARE A TRUE SUPPORTER OF FREE PC GAMING THEN YOU WILL REVIEW BOMB EVERY GAME THAT GETS CAPTURED BY THIS SHIT
Literal NPC hive mind tactics stupid valve drones, do like most people and either pirate or pay for it.

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Literally the whole post is you complaining, but you never mentioned why. So why not buy it?

>This isn't hurting the PC market because it is still on the PC market or the same price
Wrong, you fucking retard. IF A STORE HAS THE SOLE RIGHT TO SELL A GAME THEY HAVE NO REASON TO LOWER THE PRICE. Even games sold exclusively on Steam don't even fall under this category because you can purchase Steam keys with competitive prices through other vendors. Get this through your fucking head.

>I love Borderlands
You're a fucking fag.

I wasn't going to buy it anyway, it's a Gearbox game.

You can never tell but I buy that Randy would bully and treat his employees like shit because he talks in a.manner that demands any responsibility be wiped off.

>potentially good game
OP didn't say that.

>Communists are here to save games guys!

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can you prove the post wrong?

there are very easy ways to fix all of that, but you see to full of rage or stupidity to see them.

You do not understand what a monopoly is. Being a big company doesn't mean you're a monopoly.

No, that just looks like some random fuck who has beef with Randy for no reason

take off the tin foil and go outside.

>you DON'T want to use a platform you hate that gathers data for our glorious homeland? what are you a LOSER?!?!?!
Tianimen square massacre, whinnie the pooh

imma buy it

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posting in a Randy thread

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I don't know what he said in that tantrum of his, but if Bl3 proves out to be good, I'll buy it despite Epic and people acting like it's the end of the world should grow up.

>It doesn't matter if it's 6 years or 6 days. It's unacceptable for companies to force their customers to have less options when it's reasonable for the game to be released on multiple storefronts.
So you're saying you hate steam? They have permanent exclusive games.

>Steam is not a monopoly. You don't understand what a monopoly is. Being the biggest doesn't alone qualify it.
You don't understand what a monopoly is.
They have such a high market share that they're essentially a monopoly, the other companies have practically no traffic. Monopoly does not mean that there's only 1 company doing it.

>This literally does not happen.
Oh?

>If a company has exclusive rights to sell a game they have absolutely no outside incentive to reduce the price of that game. That's the fundamental reason why exclusivity is economically viable in the first place. When you're the only store that sells something people want you get to dictate the price. It ALWAYS results in higher prices than if there were multiple companies selling the same product. What you said here is unequivocally false. Absolutely false.
Just like steam.
They have no competition, therefore a monopoly.

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Valve literally ask for your number to play competitive you mongoloid

This is a faulty comparison because automobile manufacturers are all selling their own cars through their own dealerships, just like EA does with Origin. Steam and Epic in this analogy would be considered car resellers that are not first party manufacturers but simply distributors. Like used car stores that do not owe loyalty to any singular manufacturer. Then imagine one of those used car stores is paying manufacturers to disallow their used car store competition from selling certain types of cars.

Oh so you’re a poorfag. Gotcha.

Being a big company that takes up all the market share does make you a monopoly.
Twitch is almost a monopoly as well, for streams.
Youtube is almost a monopoly for videos.

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You're just continually illustrating that you don't know what a fucking monopoly is, and you're endorsing ACTUAL monopolistic business practices in order to destroy this strawman monopoly you've labeled on Steam.

they have permission to do whatever they want since they own it. Epic is going to make sure that 2k makes money on it even if Epic has to pay the difference with their infinite fortnight. So you acting this way isn't going to change anything

fuck chevy
i went to their dealship to buy but they only had chey cars

>Being a big company that takes up all the market share does make you a monopoly.
Wrong. 100% factually wrong.

>steam is a monopoly
no it's not, right now on pc you have only one way to acquire this game, tha'ts a monopoly.

Besides, how does this benefit me? How does this benefit the people making the game? It only helps support EPIC and Gearbox executives, those cunts have enough money, they don't need any more.

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This is you avoiding the point.

So that's why overwatch never goes on sale right?
And that's why destiny 2 also never goes on sale...
Stupid drone

>they have permission to do whatever they want
behold
the avergae steam defender

WAA WAA THE TECH INDUSTRY ISN'T COMMUNIST ENOUGH!

Dota 2 is only on steam, CS:GO is only on steam.
If BL3 being only on EGS for 6 months is a monopoly, then steam has definitely been a monopoly for a very long time.

But steam literally has titles that can be only bought on steam you doofus

>>steam is a monopoly
>no it's not, right now on pc you have only one way to acquire this game, tha'ts a monopoly.

It must be hard being this fucking stupid.

Let me reiterate. They have no outside incentive or pressure to have competitive prices. What sales you're seeing there are determined by an algorithm to extract the most sales from people at set intervals because sales at the previous price have dipped below a certain threshold. Since no other company is selling that particular game they don't need to worry about selling the game at a competitive price or low price, they only need to worry about making sure the price is as high as the market will allow.

No, SJW have proven that business men care more about a bunch of angry people online than profits.

You wouldn't hear nearly any complaints if this came out on GOG.

Nobody likes the epic games store. They don't compete by making a better service, they "compete" by paying off devs/publishers to not put their games anywhere else. Their security is practically nonexistant, THEY DON'T EVEN VERIFY YOUR EMAIL FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

Also epic is owned in large part by tencent, a company that is a little too buddy buddy with the chinese government, and as we all know, communists aren't people.

Absolutely not you fucking idiot.

>What is 2 factor authentication

I'm pointing out how you are making a huge mistake. Being big is irrelevant. Monopolies become and stay monopolies through business practices that make monopolies worse for customers. Valve does not engage in monopolistic business practices. They simply use their momentum to continue improving their service. They are not using their resources to prevent other stores from existing or thriving. Which is why you see so many different stores and publishers trying to do their own thing. If Steam was a monopoly they would be lobbying for laws to prevent other storefronts from existing, or buying out other vendors to maintain sole control. This simply doesn't fucking happen.

cringe

Also.
Tencent owns reddit.
Considering how you reddit format, I'm pretty sure you're an avid user of reddit.

SEETHING

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>They have no incentives
More sales after popularity drop?
You do know all games go down in price as time passes on and holidays come right?

AHAHAhahahaha all these people mad they have to download another launcher. Maybe mommy can open the launcher for you when she brings you some nuggies AHAHAHAHAHA HAAAAA! xD

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>If Steam was a monopoly they would be lobbying for laws to prevent other storefronts from existing,
I remember steam doing something similar some time ago, not necessarily to prevent other stores, but to basically gain complete control over something.

You're intentionally not listening to me. These prices are higher than they would otherwise be if multiple stores were selling the product. This is an economic truth. The existence of this phenomenon is why competition is a good thing for customers.

I don't use reddit, and I have no clue what a fucking "reddit format" is.

ill just wait till its out on steam

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Valve does do a lot of stupid shit, don't get me wrong, but as far as a monopoly is concerned Steam is about as far from it as it can be considering its size and potential to influence.

Dude I am 100% sure that metro would have been 60 instead of 40 if it came out on steam

Probably because he's a scumbag, chronic liar, and a child rapist. Pretty sure he's also a woke feminist "ally". Why even defend any company CEO or president. They're assholes 90% of the time.

Do not encourage double dipping

I was thinking of not buying it because I'm not interested in the game, but okay I'll go with your plan.

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>literally no replies
AHAHHAHAHHAA

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"reddit format" (or "reddit spacing") is when you put double newlines between things, since on reddit double new lines in the post box is the easiest way to get a line separator. It's something that gets used when the poster has no arguments left against you.

you may what to get your eyes checked.

Because we already went over this earlier today and steamshills got btfo hard

>tfw I pirated Metro Exodus because of this shit and now I'll pirate Outer Worlds and Borderlands 3 too

I ain't installing no chink spyware.

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Let me guess, there are trannies in this game?

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what kind of faggot do you take me for? i'll pirate it but keep your faggotry reddit tier tactics to yourself.

I don't recall Metro being for sale for $40 but I confess I never looked into it. I sincerely doubt Epic wouldn't sell it for $40 if Steam were selling it for $60. If Epic did that then Epic would have gotten all of the sales for Metro without needing to spend millions of dollars in the first place. What you're trying to give Epic the benefit of the doubt for is illogical and doesn't make economic sense.

If you don’t like it then don’t buy it bro.

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>A dedicated ironic epic launcher defender thread has a lot of epic defenders in it
WHOA

>he thinks pirating and chink spyware arent the exact same thing

I'm not buying it. But I'm explaining why I'm not buying it. I'm explaining why I don't support companies that attempt to force my hand, even if 6 months later they say "well, here you go, just like you asked for".

valve fags btfo

You must be retarded. Piracy is easier than giving Tencent your credit card information.

Which one do I choose Yea Forums?

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GAMERS RISE UP!

The game creator has to make the game work on the platform, they aren't gonna bother making it work on anything other than steam since nobody will bother buying from any other place than steam.

>but im going, right now, to spam negative reviews with multiple accounts on multiple platforms
you're cancer. Vote with your wallet not meaningless reviews.

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There is no compatibility necessary for developers to create to make a game function with different launchers. The launchers themselves handle this portion of the responsibility. You don't understand where the demarcation point is.

Holy fucking cringeola, what the fuck is wrong with Steam droneolas?

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They need to tie the game into the launcher/platform API, otherwise they can't connect.

Are gamers the most oppressed ethnic group?
I think so.

They literally don't. This is all handled and all you do is fill in the fucking blanks.

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Epic Gamer moment!

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>le vote with your le wallet

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Are you insisting you vote against your own interests?

how many games are steam exclusive?

>We're a democarcy
>We can do whatever we want!
>Vote with your wallet!

>...
>Oh shit it's not working
>They're all voting a way that I don't want
>Time to sabotage and try to make an angry mob!

youtu.be/4LZRca-PPFM?t=1990

Didn't want to play Borderlands 3 until early winter 19 anyway.

You mean how much trash is out there that could only ever be released on steam?

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>how many good games are steam exclusive?
none

No, I'm pointing out how pointless it is to take the 'vote with your wallet stance' because for every single person that does it, there are 5000 fucktards that will fork over the cash to get fucked in the ass without a second thought, and they'll ask for seconds.
Voting with your wallet has never worked, because all they care about is money and if you aren't giving them any, your opinion is irrelevant. You aren't somehow shaming them or making them go 'gee, maybe we fucked up' with your decision not to give them money, they know the retards who will lap up their shit and thank them for it vastly outnumber the people with any sort of principles.

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>none
lol

>Steam drones
>Yeah were not mad epic launcher will fail

>Steam drones now
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING PIRATE EVERYTHING REEEEEEEEEEEE

Imagine spitting out your adult sized dummy over a fucking storefront. You should probably fucking kill yourself if you are this wound up.

Voting with your wallet doesn't work because other people don't want to vote your way. You think you're right and others opinions don't matter, so you want to resort to other methods.

You're retarded. You're taking a stance against voting with your wallet while simultaneously agreeing that 5000 fucktards are also voting with their wallet and that's the way it should be. Nobody is sitting here expecting their reluctance to give them money to change anything. They're expecting to save their own fucking money. You're trying to shame them for doing what is in their own best interest, as if they should be voting with their wallet for the other side because it's not something they can win according to you.

You're literally taking the stance to defend Epic as if there is no other logical choice. The choice is to give them a middle finger and do nothing. You're actively pushing for a marketplace where companies decide what happens with their customer's money and their customer's individual choices are irrelevant. You sound just like Sweeney's tweets.

>first-party exclusive titles

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>2013 PC users
>Look at those daft console faggots arguing over exclusives
>2019 PC fags:

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>permanent exclusive titles
Do you mind telling me which?

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This is such an obvious falseflag and Im not even surprised Yea Forums fell for it.

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>They ask for your number so if a cheater gets caught they have to get a new number which in itself is a bit annoying to do

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cs:go, dota 2, tf2, half-life/2.

Then there's a shit ton of other games, like project zomboid, KSP etc.

If you're a supporter of not playing bad games, don't get Borderlands 3.

Steam is an unintentional monopoly, nobody ever bothered to compete with it
But now Epic is trying to create an intentional monopoly

Besides, Valve never paid anyone so their game could be only bought on their store.

>Wouldn't surprise me if they severely limited those to make it appear more sought after.
That would be retarded and you know it.
>Considering Disney is buying seats for their own movies to inflate their box office opening weekend numbers I wouldn't put it past them, especially when there's nothing to lose.
Ah, so you're from r/The_Donald.

You retards can't help but respond to 3 hour old posts as if your opinion is relevant. You have no argument.

See this Also Overwatch, WoW, Diablo are Battle.net exclusives
Apex Legends is Origin exclusive

OP's a fag. But..
>2019
>Willingly giving money to Randy Pitchford
Come on now

They never paid for any game to be exclusive to their store.

Exclusives are exclusives.
The publisher bought up a studio, and through that got exclusive publishing rights.

Still a monopoly, and the only way to break the monopoly is through brute force.
People HATE change, no matter how good you make a service they aren't going to change to a different better service.

I wasn't going to buy it anyway. Borderlands 1 was grindy, boring crap, and 2 didn't look any better so I never bothered to play it.

>Exclusive to Steam
Fine
>Exclusive to Origin
Fine
>Exclusive to Battle.net
Fine
>Exclusive to uPlay
Fine
>Exclusive to Epic Store
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING BOYCOTT AND PIRATE EVERYTHING STOP SUPPORTING THIS SHIT
Just seriously fucking kill yourselves already. You're fucking embarrassing.

Pretty rich coming from a witcher 3 faggot

See this

>Exclusive to Origin
Fine
>Exclusive to Battle.net
Fine
>Exclusive to uPlay
Fine

Find me where anybody ever defended this

Nigger I wasn't going to play border shit to begin with

>A monopoly that wasn't intentional has to be broken because they totally want to continue to be a monopoly

Still, they never paid anyone so their games could be only bought on Steam

Besides, I like change as long it brings good, but so far Epic is doing more harm than good.

I dont see people complaining about Apex Legends being exclusive to Origin.
Infact on here everyone here was praising it and downloading origin.

>PCfags

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I've never seen anybody unironically defend launcher exclusives.

Thank you I guess?

Epic Games store is Chinese Malware.

Do I have to remind you that first-party exclusive exist?

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You mean the people that have been makign the same bing bing wahoo games for 30 years?

The US government spies on you every single time if you have Windows.
Tencent owns, has stakes in, or partners with Ubisoft, Activision-Blizzard, Epic Games, Riot Games, Paradox, PUBG, League of Legends, Clash Royale, Discord, Fortnite, Path of Exile, Rocket League, and many - many more. It is literally the largest game company in the world.
So if you have any of them you're getting fucked regardless nigger.

Epic is doing good.
They're doing no harm.

Sony is more anti consumer than Epic
no joke

>there are 5000 fucktards that will fork over the cash to get fucked in the ass without a second thought, and they'll ask for seconds.
Wow, I guess those 5000 people voted with their wallets, except they voted the other way. And seeing that it's 1 to 5000... yeah you lost. Tough luck

And in your eyes this means it's permissible? People are complaining about it, and you're trying to silence their complaints because they should be complaining about other things too? Shut the fuck up, faggot.

>they limit consumer choice with timed exclusives bullshit
How is that good?

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>Its okay when my government does it!!!

How is that harmful?

Nobody is saying it's OK. They're saying it's not OK, and you're telling them to be quiet. Keep your fucking mouth shut, retard.

>Riot Games
>Epic Games
>PUBG
>etc etc etc
Does naming the developers and the games to fluff your list give you a hard on? Tencent is easy as fuck to boycott.

Well if you don't want to be tracked don't use the internet at all?

COPE
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>Store A has game X for 50$ but has cloud save
>Store B has game X for 40$ but no cloud save

>Epic has game Y for 60$ you can't buy it anywhere else.

why is it hard to sell your product on two separate platforms anyways? actual question from a brainlet.

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Good thing I only play PUBG out of all of them, and that game is doesn't spy on you.

Tencent only has a 5% share in ActiBlizzard, compared to Epic's 40%.

The US govenrment spying is bad, but chinks are a hundred thousand times worse. Chinks are a hostile foreign race that wants to conquer the world and exterminate all non-Han Chinese to make living space for the yellow goblin hordes.

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The publisher/developer decides the price.
You do know that, right?

You're not fucking listening, retard. People are allowed to complain about anything they want. Your insistence that they shouldn't be allowed to complain because they don't complain about everything else at all times is asinine. Your actions are trying to shield Epic from legitimate criticism on grounds that Epic is not the only company that does stupid shit people don't like. Fuck all of those companies too, but fuck Epic as well. And that's what these discussions are about, so fuck you too for trying to silence that opinion you cock sucking, boot licking, shill faggot.

This but unironically

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>Store A has game X for 50$ and no cloud save
>Store B has game X for 50$ and has cloud save

There is still choice even with the same price.

>YOU ARE A TRUE SUPPORTER OF FREE PC GAMING
says Gaben's onahole

>*post pic of WW2 us soldiers fighting nazis*
>"haha look at this drumpf supporter"

Can I buy it for the PS4?

sony is more anti comsumer than epic

You can always cancel the preorder.

>read up on thread
>steamfags upset they dont get borderlands 3 until 6 months of release
>epicshills upset people are calling their software spyware
the majority of posters in this thread barely play video games. quit acting like borderlands is something to cry about
>bbut muh free market! epic cant pay developers to not release their game to my favorite application!
then how can they secure exclusives?

Based retarded centrist

Don't be fooled. That's not a centrist. It's an Epic shill trying to act like there's no valid criticism anywhere.

Try paying attention to gaming news instead of running your mouth.
Tim sweeney says developers matter and consumers don't matter so naturally epic is a store that reflects his beliefs [no search function, no basket, etc.]. If you're fine buying games from someone who thinks you and your money don't matter then you won't understand why people who don't like being treated that way don't support epic.

They will have cloud save by the time BL3 is out.

>then how can they secure exclusives?
They don't.

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>implying this will convince me to download EGS.

I'm just gonna get it on ps4 lol

You're ignoring the point. There is no choice between stores. That's the problem. Not the cloud saves. That's just illustrating the gulf between the services Epic doesn't provide and the company it refuses to compete with.

do people stilll cares about this shit anyways?

OP is a faggot. PC gaming is not Valve exclusive. Get fucked.

No, but tencent's going to send a whole bunch of chink bucks over here to market it.

>a company which has bought every single major golden age developer in the west and destroyed them, has been running for longer than you've been alive, and has pumped out over a trillion AAA games that sell massively is finally dying after several long decades because it's shutting down its pajeet PR office management closet cleaner division
>after almost 30 years of people calling it the shittiest company, shitting on all its garbage market-researched stockholder trash "games", and only slightly-figuratively being the Satan of video games

Not only is it not comparable to Gearbox, which is a garbage reddit company, it's not even an accurate or even educated assumption.

It never was.

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Because the modern capitalist world is obsessed with exclusivity rights.
If two stores hold the same game, that means one store will make more money than the other. Even if Steam and Epic both selling the game would equate to more sales money combined, Epic would rather have all of the money than some of it.

It's sick, and the only reason it's happening is because of consoles breeding the idea that exclusives are okay and consumer friendly (they aren't)

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>>>bbut muh free market! epic cant pay developers to not release their game to my favorite application!
>then how can they secure exclusives?

You realize origin, battlenet and the windows store have had exclusives for years right? Epic isn't the first non-steam store with exclusives, the difference is companies like EA and blizzard develop and publish their own games, the games literally wouldn't exist without those companies whereas epic simply pays for exclusivity. Epic doesn't make shit, every game they were making got cancelled in favor of fortnite, UT4 is dead, paragon is dead. Hell they didn't even put any developers behind their store until recently because they realized 'oh shit if we want to offer anything other than shadow complex and fortnite we should probably have a search function'.

Do they even have a search function yet?

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hello ching chong
first off origin,uplay, gog, etc have existed for a long time
second off its not valves fault people choose to only use them

They got one very recently. The next big step is adding a basket to the store but that's 6 months away so if someone really likes epic and they want to buy 10 games they have to checkout 10 times.

As soon as valve stops taking huge percentages from developers for doing literally nothing, this shit will stop

What's stopping gray market dealers from selling Borderlands 3 at different prices? It already happens on Steam, and Steam can and will take away keys they find to be "gray market" (which isn't often, hasn't happened with a single gray market key I've bought). So what's the issue here? You guys talk about choice but the biggest "choice" I see thrown around is just on gray market retailers.

>Boycott this game because it makes you download it via Epic's digital store.
No.
I don't care that I will have to spend 3 minutes installing epics version of steam.
If you have some information ABOUT THE ACTUAL FUCKING GAME, then feel free to share it.

>What's stopping gray market dealers from selling Borderlands 3 at different prices?
Epic is.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding about the differences in how Epic and Steam do business. Epic specifically shuts down all opportunities for people to purchase the game elsewhere, otherwise their exclusivity would be meaningless.

>For doing nothing.
partner.steamgames.com/

>Giving money to china isn't nough to boycott
What about a $250 epic version of the game with lootcrates and season passes?

>for doing literally nothing
pcgamer.com/steam-delivered-15-billion-gigabytes-of-data-in-2018/

>"We partner with Internet backbone companies around the world to build this network, which connects directly with over 28,000 regional and local networks in 28 cities in 21 different countries," Valve writes. "This private network lets us deliver games and carry game, voice chat, and other data with high speeds and low latency to users in more than 229 countries."

Valve has been making moves that you don't even realize they're making because they don't advertise these things to you.

Meanwhile on the epic store trello.com/b/GXLc34hk/epic-games-store-roadmap
Look at all these features that aren't available yet

>tfw buying on Xbox so I don’t give a fuck
Feels good man

People really take all this shit for granted. I'm convinced the people who say 'valve doesn't do anything' weren't around before steamworks and you had to use shit like gamespy and GFWL to play multiplayer. When GFWL and gamespy shut down a bunch of games simply didn't work online anymore and valve filled the gap with steamworks but I guess that's 'literally doing nothing' to some people.

>muh data privacy
morons, Big Data companies control the net, not governments.
also govns have easier ways to get your shit, and the only real solution is to become a literal techless hermit.
so please, stop being fucking hypocrites, idiots, and maybe you'll realize you're acting like fucking spoiled children.
>t. work in Big Data
you mean that diamond box who ALREADY IS SOLD OUT?
and also wasn't availble for PC?

Shit man when I was playing games online at first I was using Gamespy Arcade to play Mechwarrior 3 on a 56k baud modem. These zoomers will never understand the struggle.

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What does them selling out of some doodads have to do with the price it was offered?

Oh, i see chinks have arrived already
*AHEM*
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you're complaining about a console exclusive edition, user.
let it be.

Is there proof of this? I'm genuinely asking. I guess I do have a misunderstanding with how Epic does business. Do they not charge different things for different regions?

When you say grey market you mean shit like GMG/fanatical/gamebillet etc.? Those sites are legit authorized resellers who get their keys from devs/publishers, if you mean shit like cdkeys or g2a then they won't be stopped by anything short of simply not selling keys at all which is what epic does, you don't even get a key with a game and you can't gift games either.

You can't buy Epic games exclusively anywhere else but their own store. Full stop. That's why the word exclusive is being used. If you could buy the game elsewhere and activate it on Epic then it wouldn't be considered exclusive. They're doing it so they don't need to compete with other storefronts with their prices or worry about total sales. I'm not too familiar with how they charge people in different regions but from what I understand the way their structure is laid out people in developing countries or anywhere else but the U.S. are paying more than they would if Steam were selling it simply as a result of the way they process transactions.

Not authorized resellers like GMG, I mean cdkeys and Kinguin.
Is there no possibility of them opening up to other storefronts after a while? Or have they stated it's their plan to stay entirely on that one platform?

Epic doesn't sell keys. There's nothing for key resellers to sell. If you purchase a game on Epic it's tied to your epic account. The only thing a reseller could do is resell an account but that could be tracked with ease. They have no plans to start operating their business like Steam because that would interfere with their exclusivity method of obtaining profit.

They're clearly blaming it on the product that it didn't sell, since the studio didn't produce a good product they shut the studio down.

pc-owards are pathetic

>to spam negative reviews with multiple accounts on multiple platforms
>Review bomb all 3 of the borderlands games, dlcs too, EVERYTHING
Fuck You
No seriously, fuck off.
I fucking hate it when I see a review for a game and it is just "DEVELOPER DID THIS" or "ITS ON THE EPIC GAME STORE" instead of talking about the actual game. It's because of people like you and your review-bombing approach that Valve has to change the rating system, actual good games are being bombed after years of work, and its because you are so entitled that you need everything under one platform.
"WAAAHHH ITS NOT ON STEAM"
"WAAAAHHH FUCK EPIC. REVIEW BOMB IT NAOOW"
You think that review bombing works? You shits did it for Metro Exodus and it still sold successfully. Do you actually think that Gearbox is going to put it on steam early? Borderlands was made on the Unreal Engine and Randy Pitchford defended Epic exclusives. Review bombing won't change anything except for making your favorite game look like shit.

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Studios, to EA games, are worthless.