You can just google one of the many articles about it, look up the ones of valve not being happy about it getting info from steam.
Dylan Ross
>Steam and Discord do the same exact background processes They literally don't faggot.
Kayden Miller
Chang, why did you ignore the baby in the middle of the road?
Ayden James
>tencent If you cant prove it's not malware AND the Chinese have a stake, you assume the worst. Tianamen square freedom democracy multi party system
Adam Mitchell
No, you can't. Just trust us though... It's bad..... Steam is the only store that should exist, a single penny spent on this supposed storefront is a V-Buck given to Zoomers.
>Can I get definitive proof that Epic games is a botnet or have any relation to chinese malware? There is no proof, because it isn't. This thread will archive with hundreds of replies of faggots without a single fucking fact to back up anything they say. Yea Forums is literally resorting to tranny tier posting about their feels rather than facts.
>Tim totally doesn't take orders from Tencent >"Yeah lmao Tencent practically gave me advise on how to run the company" Fuck Chinks and fuck Chink slaves.
Jesus christ. Thats all I wanted to see. Thanks user.
Jacob Sullivan
lol you guys are so triggered. all you have to do is install a launcher. you don't have to pay $300 for a console just to play a single game. stop comparing this to console exclusives and learn to deal with it. steam shouldn't have this much power anyway.
Henry Sanchez
None of that is proof user.
William Hughes
HOLY SHIT, SOMEONE INFORM THE US GOVERNMENT!
Lucas Harris
>CreateFile I didn't know steam installs epic launcher on your computer
Kevin Martin
>It's not proof because I said so That's a pretty Chinese thing to say there, Xaio
Prove that's it proof. Oh wait, you can't, because if it was Epic would be in violation of US law and would have been shut down. Checkmate atheist.
Jace Rodriguez
Stop ignoring the people with an actual argument just so you can easily BTFO the idiots whining about exclusives. EGS is objectively worse than Steam as far as user experience.
Levi Myers
>Prove that's it proof. Oh wait, you can't, because if it was Epic would be in violation of US law and would have been shut down. No they wouldn't, companies do this all the time, just look at some of the shady shit that google gets away with
Mason Baker
I can play my EGS games without Epic Launcher running or even installed, I can't do that with Steam.
Epic: 1 Steam: 0
Sebastian King
Anyone complaining about privacy or being spied on is full retard. Anyone using a smartphone is being data harvested 1000x more than a games launcher would do.
Eli Garcia
Fake and gay.
Brayden Lewis
Yeah it is. Not our fault that you're too dumb to understand it.
>Steam logo badly photoshopped with pixels cut off >If image were real, it would imply Steam creates the EpicGamesLauncher.exe Imagine being this retarded.
Ethan Johnson
Oh, you mean all that shady shit that fucking no one, your hypocritical ass included, actually gives a shit about?
I mean right up until you need it as ammunition to push your own little narrative based on your own personal prejudices, then it's something you totally care about.
Fucking pathetic little faggot, look at yourself, no one takes you seriously because you don't even take yourself seriously.
Dominic Smith
"I can't understand this" is not the same as "That's not proof" You'd be better served by listening to people that actually know what they're talking about if you're not smart enough to understand it yourself
Andrew Ross
Come on user, even you can't be that stupid.
You only need the Epic Launcher to download your games, not play them.
Colton Sullivan
>because if it was Epic would be in violation of US law and would have been shut down You're a good go... "friend". Don't listen to the others. Something like this would never ever be possible and everyone who says otherwise is fake news.
Good advice, take it, and stop spreading around literal nothing webms of process monitor like they're something.
Jason Gomez
Yes, you can. If you use your tiny head and buy games that don't use steamworks.
Hunter Stewart
>Oh, you mean all that shady shit that fucking no one, your hypocritical ass included, actually gives a shit about? If you don't care about your privacy, can I please have your credit card, social security #, phone #, personal address, banking credentials and date of birth?
Joshua Torres
So are any of you faggots going to explain what is means or are you going off of what some turd on Reddit told you?
Easton Campbell
>THEY DON'T DO IT, IF THEY WOULD ANYONE ELSE WOULD TOO >which is what happens >BUT YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT IT ANYWAY So this is how a brain melting down looks like.
Yeah, let's completely ignore the "NAME NOT FOUND" result, almost as if the "CreateFile" operation is more of a fileread and it simply looks if known malware exists.
The "CreateFile" operation doesn't create files, it's the name for the operation when a program opens a file.
Leo Young
>Still no proof Imagine my shock. Of course they're not going to explain it, first of all I doubt anyone in this thread even understands it, secondly there's absolutely nothing out of the ordinary or malicious there.
Noah Wilson
Lying, cheatin, scamming and stealing are virtues by sign of intelligence according to many Chinese, particularly those born before the gaming era in china. I have chinese student in my med school class who have been suspended for plagiarism and they literally could not understand why that was a bad thing. I was told it has to do with caligraphy and how that has formed their culture into one of mastering anothers' style before improving on it yourself
Dominic Clark
>he still doesn't understand it Whatever mate, keep on living in your little dream world where everything is fine and dandy.
Picture is Epic launcher going through someones Internet Explorer cookies
Connor Morris
It's a list of files the executable is interacting with, a lot of which is related to your steam metadata, which that program has no reason to access. This has been explained several times.
Leo Murphy
>proof was posted multiple times >I-I-IT DOESN'T COUNT BECASUE I SAY SO Keep going retard. I've always wanted to see a chink break because he can't comprehend simple logic.
Nicholas Nguyen
Show me a single article written by a renown security firm delving into the Epic Launchers processes.
I'll wait.
Mason Cox
>let's completely ignore the "NAME NOT FOUND" result The fuck you reading dipshit. Did you respond to the wrong posts or is the chink bot sperging out again?
Carter Wood
>There is no proof, because it isn't. >This thread will archive with hundreds of replies of faggots without a single fucking fact to back up anything they say. It's all coming true.
Sebastian Foster
>This has been explained several times.
>implying chinks still care They just keep on spaming and deniy it until everyone gets too sick to listen to it. It's in every fucking thread and no matter how often you post and explain it it always gets derailed with the same fuckiung posts. ofc with nothing to back it up since that would be impossible.
Robert Jenkins
>2 second search of what Fiddler is and its involvement with the Epic Games Store >2 second search of Epic Games Store licking what data it can from where it shouldn't be looking (eg Steam user data) Either way, I'm well aware it's bait. Just pointing this out for those passing by. Don't bother replying. If you have a point to make, prove it. Dassit.
Landon Morgan
Show me a statement from Donald Trump saying Epic Launcher is not Chinese spyware
I'll wait
James Morales
>There is no proof, because it isn't. >This thread will archive with hundreds of replies of faggots without a single fucking fact to back up anything they say >it's already been posted multiple time in this one lalone >let alone all the other already archived threads Every fucking time the same shit with you retards.
Juan James
>They just keep on spaming and deniy it until everyone gets too sick to listen to it. That's fine, I got nothing better to do today than yell at asians
Juan Gomez
Are you stupid, blind or what? Why would Epic be controlling Steam userdata?
Joseph Clark
Nice strawman user, now show me a single article written by a renown security firm delving into the Epic Launchers processes.
You do have articles to back up your claims, don't you? I mean you aren't just basing your claims on fabrication and fallacy? You'd have to be pretty silly to do that. You're not silly, are you?
>literally making their own copy of localconfig.vdf Steam file >XORing it with FF >Tim calls it encryption By noww fucking everyone who does care knows about your bullshit and avoids it like the fucking plague. Have fun paying out of your ass for the exclusives that nobody will buy.
Adam Brooks
There isn't any proof. Instead of spinning that bullshit just mention all the features it lacks compare to steam.
Blake Robinson
How many cents do you earn by doing this? I really need an explanation because this is even worse than click farms.
Ryder Cox
>There isn't any proof >this thread alone has three posts with proof Boldfaced lying must really be the insects second nature.
Why is this important? Tim Sweeney went on record saying he "takes no orders from Tencent." This is a facetious lie. 40% ownership of a company puts Tencent in a position of power to completely liquidate their assets and bring Epic Games to its knees if they wanted to. Tencent also has complete control of video game distribution in the Chinese market, only playing second to the Chinese government itself. This means that for Epic to have its games released in the largest market on the planet, they must adhere to the demands of Tencent's directors that have been planted at the top of Epic.
Tencent is no different from Huawei, a company backed by the Chinese government to dominate the western market it exists within, giving it complete and uncontested access to the private information of billions.
>Steam logo badly photoshopped with pixels cut off
That's how it normally looks in Process Monitor like you braindead retard.
John Phillips
>the tos literally says they are allowed to spy on you and send data to Tencent >Tencent the company that works with th Chinese government to spy on their own people >not spyware damn you really wanna play BL3 that bad, dont you?
Lucas Baker
>Of course they're not going to explain it From what I've researched it seems like it is creating a database of gaymur trends to see what games they should purchase for the store. Kinda sketchy, DESU, but no viruses or jackshit has been on my PC. Valve also takes data for the same reason though I haven't found anything in terms of whether or not they use website like Origin or EGL.
All in all, don't care. Will buy games on EGL if something I'm interested in comes out
Alexander Jackson
>I haven't found anything in terms if the go through other launchers like Origin or EGL*
Ayden Allen
Fuck off Chang, steam.exe with location to Epic launcher
Luis Gomez
>articles are proof That's why it's important to consider the people writing the articles, anons posting webms and making claims aren't important, or even relevant to the discussion, they're nobodies.
Post the TOS, i've seen nothing of the sort. Looks like you're making up shit again.
Fuck you guys just lie endlessly to push your own little narratives don't you, one might almost mistake you for Chinks.
Jacob Hill
>proof is not relevant
Aaron Myers
didn't these Chinese cunts release a bunch of david cage crap on pc where are my fuckin pirated copies on the interwebs?
Jose Smith
The proof isn't relevant if the sources aren't credible, and you're faggot ass is the least credible source around on anything other than hot pockets.
Landon Sanchez
>unless you have this certain degree or position you can't post proof k
Carter Baker
Not out yet, keep your eye on crackwatch
Austin Price
Welcome to the real world kid, I know it must be hard for an internet crusader like you to understand, but just because you screech something online at the top of your lungs, doesn't make it fact.
David Mitchell
>He actually thinks that companies don't break the law all the time Hahahahahahaha
Noah Allen
>and you're faggot ass is the least credible source around on anything other than hot pockets. Actually made me lol
Noah Morgan
So you are saying people are faking process monitoring just to say the launcher is scanning your files? Why don't you try it yourself and see if your results match?
Jaxson Ramirez
they're owned by china
they're automatically shit tier
Adrian Bell
Glad to oblige. And of course they do, I literally said as much, but i'm still waiting for proof of Epic doing anything malicious, illegal or anything more than run of the mill analytics that literally fucking everyone has been doing for the better part of a decade now.
Brayden Anderson
This is basically a summary of everything Ebin Memes is doing on your PC
I'm saying what the process monitors are showing isn't anything weird or unusual and certainly not malicious.
Fucking Discord is way fucking worse, and Steam sniffs out a whole lot more than Epic.
Connor Jones
>install and set up Fiddler >enable SSL decryption >remove certs afterwards >start up Epic Store >can instantly watch the packets flow all the way to Tim Sweeney's gaping datacenters We went trough all this shit ~1 month ago, Epic copying files they have no need for and sending them out, yet here you fagtards are, somehow still trying to defend that shit almost as if your braincapacity is below that of a fucking ant.
Elijah Thomas
LITERALLY based off of a reddit post that was thrashed by people who knew what they were talking about lmao
>Discord is way fucking worse Suprisingly also owned by chinks
>Steam sniffs out a whole lot more than Epic Prove it
Connor James
So why is it opening dlls of applications that have nothing to do with vidya, like fiddler?
Carson Flores
>and Steam sniffs out a whole lot more than Epic >and yet no proof of that was every provided since this shit started last year You should also change your spacing Chang, you're the retard from the anno thread earlier today who already lost it back then.
>I know it must be hard for an internet crusader like you to understand k
Charles Sanders
Y-yeah, they were so BTFO that Tim, our lord and saviour himself, had to come out of his moneyhole and get btfo when he couldn't give one fucking concrete answer as to why Epic is copying and sending out steam data.
Isaac Russell
sauce on this? would like to see this thread
Benjamin Green
You didn't disprove his claim. Sweeney can't do jack shit against Tencent, he already capitulated on his newer tweets. You sound like a SNOY who can't form a basic high school grade counter argument.
>if I block out the important parts I'm right Yeah, that's true.
Justin Hall
China could cease to exist tomorrow and the world would celebrate and make it a holiday. The ONLY thing of value we would lose is a shithole country to mass produce shit for the west.
Bentley Brown
>40% > 60% ok
Grayson Brown
It's a correction of
Kayden Bennett
>literally censoring a image you have no power here Winnie
Connor Carter
And yet not once was it proven to be wrong, especially since everyone can simply test it out themselves. And of course the calssical "steam does it too and worse" without any proof to back it up. Alsmot as if there isn't any and it's a very desperatre attempt of some interns to damage control in the worst way possible.
Ryan Williams
So it sounds like Steam/Valve are a bunch of lazy cunts (again) for not properly encrypting their files and Epic seized the opportunity while they could.
Brody Nguyen
God it's amazing how badly Steam fags have fucked up their anti-epic efforts with their childish shit.
Ian Cruz
It's more that they tought that others will paly ball and not lok
Noah Morgan
Except it was? There's been an image and a reddit post in this thread that shows the people making these process monitor claims are bullshitting
Lucas Ramirez
>still damage controlling your shit thread
Hunter Wood
not look into the personel files of pc users, violating EU laws in the process. Yet here we are, with Epic doing exactly that.
Lucas Bell
sperging out random words you don't even understand doesn't make it right either
I mean, if you keep ignoring the them of course it won't
James Reed
It's been a great thread, it's drawn all of you steam faggots out of the woodwork and exposed you for the lying sacks of chinkoid like shit you are.
Brayden Reyes
Yeah, by censoring half the image. Golly goo, who would've tought that they end up in the right then. Fucking hell use your brain for once insect and don't make it that easy to laugh at you.
David Allen
okay, coldsteel
Jordan Martin
>sperging out random words you don't even understand doesn't make it right either
>censoring the image Oh yeah it totally censorship to erase things that aren't relevant to the point you are making. Oh by the way, the original image is still there if you want to look at it, so it's not censorship
Evan Edwards
>his own link shows him that the spying is real You fucks really, and I mean it , should start to read what you post. So far you've only kicked yourself in your balls time and time again.
Gabriel Gutierrez
This post matters the most, Epic has absolutely no actual reason to install it.
Leo Collins
Where does it say that?
If you say "it looks at DLLs" I'm going to fucking throttle you
Zachary Campbell
>debunked >>uh programs do this all the time >>well OK this one is true but trust us it's fine amazing debunk
Asher Baker
That post would matter if 90% of the steam features weren't garbage and if it was actually honest and accurate about the Epic features, which it isn't. So no, that post is worthless.
I mean fuck, half of Steams "features" should be under a cancer column.
Parker Morgan
Finally, I was searching for that picture for a month. Thanks user.
>This shit is too fucking easy to photoshop I could do this in Paint
Dominic Cooper
I don't give a fuck about the launcher. Does it being worse affect the game I play? In what ways?
Ethan Rivera
If you don't care about the launcher why do you care about whether or not people want to use it?
Cameron Fisher
>steam looks throught his own files >egs looks throught steam files and copies them because...?
Colton Walker
>affect the game Every launcher and drm can affect the game. Look at Resident Evil 2 steam forums, people buy licensed copies but play pirated versios because they are faster.
Ayden Wood
I remember Fortnite having problems with connection with the friendlist, not sure if they fixed it now. That might affect some join-in games. Then again Steam's friendlist recently got some hickups as well for me.
Grayson Cooper
Pretty much in the very first response in the thread. Which you'd knew if you would open and read it. But keep on going, Darwin will take care of retards like you down the road anyway.
>achievements were introducced to track players >this is good but Epic doing fucking nothing is bad because plebbitors don't know shit about what they write I hope I'll never understadn the mind of a drone.
>steam provides boatloads of features >the "lightweight" epic store with less features still needs more memory to run I never knew how ressource-intensive spying was.
Not really other than anons going "FREE TIBET" over and over in the middle of Yea Forums.
Also gonna point out, Steam hasn't done anything to really fight Epic.
Lucas Nguyen
>MUH CHEEVOS >MUH TRADING CARDS >MUH EARLY ACCESS CANCER >MUH PROFILES
Zoomer tier trash.
Thomas Evans
That image is wrong, I have both Steam and Epic running right now, both idle, and Steam is running a fuck load more processes using up way more memory.
Tyler Sullivan
I'll wait for you to read your own chart outside of the giant numbers on the right and realize you're a moron.
Justin Young
>twitchUI The fuck is that
Ethan Butler
>he can't afford a good harddrive That shit is completely irrelevant
Ryan Sullivan
UHHH ARGUMENT HURTY BRAIN ME CALL NAME ME LABEL GRUG WIN AGAIN GRUG PENIS MASSIVE
any people who knows their shit knows that it isn't relevant. see
Austin Sanchez
I'm not sure what you see wrong with it, user
Gavin Walker
Why is it so fucking hard to get a definitive answer about this? Either it is tracking and stealing data or it isn't.
Christopher Johnson
>So now they're opinions? When were they not? Do I seriously need to define what an opinion is for you? Or are you a big boy capable of googling shit for yourself?
Sebastian Thomas
holy fucking shit. 0/10 chinkroach, better luck next time.
that's fine and dandy, but how come steam doesn't do it? sounds like a lot of excuses but if it was correct nearly all programs would how similar behavior
John Rogers
>still throwing names around like a preschool playground Also, next time use "in my opinion" beforehand. You know full well that it wasnt specified, but Im sure youll keep jamming that square peg in the round hole
Carson Williams
Steam does do it, and all programs of a similar nature do exactly the same shit.
Julian Thompson
I checked, it doesn't. feel free to prove me wrong with a webm.
James Gomez
because Gabe doesn't care either you're using a maphack or an aimbot youtu.be/6q1mtgqrDRk (eng subs)
Jonathan Powell
false and gay.
Dominic Howard
My apologies, I assumed you had at the very least a basic grasp of the English language and didn't need to be treated like an absolute fucking child with every little nuance of the language spelled out for you. I guess I was wrong.
James Morris
Explain to me how I could infer that from the words you used.
Protip: You literally fucking cant
Josiah Davis
haha dude its just video games lmao why the tribalism haha
William Ross
Sorry user, i'm not qualified to teach non-native speakers English.
Ryan Ortiz
Ok i see it. Now why does epic launcher do it?
Dominic Gutierrez
Why does Epic Launcher do what?
Christopher Roberts
>avoiding the question Ahh retards as allways
Blake Richardson
Yes, how fucking DARE Steam check Steam files to run...
Because stuff like "chang wants to gobble your data like a stray dog" isn't relevant to the point being made that the image in is wrong?
Dylan Cook
No, it was a legitimate question. You need to be more specific, because Epic doesn't sniff around Discord, and the only sniffing Epic does do of other launchers is if if you set it to sync with your friends lists etc
So again, why does Epic Launcher do what?
Benjamin Anderson
can anybody explain this webm to a brainlet such as i
David Adams
what program is that task manager doesnt show that much for me
Caleb Collins
Everyone who thinks EGS is a botnet is a genuine, 100% certified retard.
Nolan Thomas
It's always been a case of Valve-drones that are loyal to their DRM. They can't stand competition for Steam, so they rant and rave about Epic Games being a Chinese botnet
Owen Nelson
The 60% would be split up among other investors. Unless there's someone with a 41% stake or higher Tencent has the majority of shares of any one group.
Bentley Ortiz
>avoid the main question Like i said. Retards
Wyatt Thompson
What main question user? All of them have been answered in this very thread.
If you haven't read the thread, cool, you're a lazy faggot, i'd expect no less, but ask a specific question and i'll answer it.
Or would you rather continue not asking an actual question out of fear that someone will prove you wrong?
William Reed
>debunked by /g/ >"s-still proof, see reddit says so!! tiananmen square etc etc"
Hunter Bell
>still not answering the question. Pathetic already my man. Read the thread. The question is there
Isaiah Flores
Steam fanboys just got their hands on this new shiny tool called process monitor and think it is the be-all end-all of reverse engineering. So they have made misleading webms to try and paint epic games store as spyware using process monitor don't tell them about the rest of the sysinternals suite, based on their knowledge of process monitor they might break their computers trying to use the other tools
Alexander Collins
>imply one other group owns 60% and that isn't split up between smaller investors Absolute fucking brainlet. What does largest shareholder mean? How do you operate in the real world?
Jackson Johnson
>Tencent owns almost half of Epic (40%) >Tencent is known to be in full cooperation with the chinese government >chinese government is a communist state who doesn't hide any of their surveillance.
I don't really care about whether it's a botnet or not. Their practices have already left enough of a bad taste in my mouth. I won't use the Epic Launcher until all physical games, steam, gog and origin shut down, or Epic invents a new service (not related to the games themselves) that I haven't seen before and now can't imagine living without. Of course, I very much doubt either of those things will happen.
Joshua James
This thread has shown that you cannot trust steamfags.
Landon King
You literally didn't provide any proof.
Adrian Edwards
Unironically this, steamfags are a bigger hivemind of lying sacks of shit than Chinks could ever hope to be.
Not a free thinking educated brain among them.
Chase Sullivan
>debunked >when most fags only have a couple of pics, some answer from reddit and aks for retarded shit to consider the proff
Zachary Nguyen
>but which chinese botnet? >THEY ALL CHINESE NIGGA
Jordan Walker
There's more then enopugh of it in the thread anyway.
Juan Barnes
>harddrive >memory You either need more english classes, Chang, or a working brain.
Logan Wilson
It is.
Jonathan Martinez
It's not.
Oliver Cooper
>some chink actually went through the trouble of photoshopping this to feel better about himself for a few minutes
Hudson Young
It is.
Isaac Johnson
egs runs like shit and doesn't have any features lmao
until it gets those it's not going to see people happily using it doesn't matter if the games are cheaper if the client is still godawful
Jack Ortiz
kill yourselves samefagging shills >DEBUNKED fuck off
Roadmap doesn't make the features magically appear on the store right now. Also consider the first and most simple thing to implement to any online store is more than 6 months away.
>click 'Add a non-steam game to my library' >wtf why is it scanning for me .exe files
Isaac Perez
>There is no proof, because it isn't. >This thread will archive with hundreds of replies of faggots without a single fucking fact to back up anything they say. 236 replies later, no proof, hundreds of replies. Like a damn fiddle.
Jordan Torres
No Steam actually does do that shit on it's own, Discord does it with everything as well.
They're like dogs, can't help but bury their noses in everyone's asses.