Why are games so slow nowadays?

Because modern games want to have some kind of realism to them.

>OW
>fast as fuck

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That may have been true in the past, but now there are definitely people using controllers that can match up to some keyboard users. Some people are autistically good at Siege on console.

quake champions reminded me that FPS games can still be fun. I actually really like that game, but actually playing it isnt so fun.

ZOOM ZOOM

>Tracer
>fast

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iD needs to stop fucking around and put out a AAA Quake flop instead of farmed out slav shit so that boomers can finally die in piece.

It's a combination of:
>controllers/consoles
>high-speed, skill based movement makes the game less accessible and creates a wider skill gap, both of which makes it much more difficult to retain a large (or even moderately sized) user base
>the developers didn't actually set out to make games this fast, and the skilled movement options were unintended bugs from how these games handled physics; john carmack has spoken about his dislike of strafe jumping, and gabe newell has stated that he hated bunny hopping in cs
In short: console players can't play them, the majority of PC players don't want to play them, and developers don't want to make them.

lol

Is that why console Siege tournaments no longer exist?

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A classic duel mode would make me pretty happy with it, but I'm not gonna hold my breath for that.

Literally this.

Maybe I could have some fun if the FPS was above 20. Or if it didnt reset my level to 0 and make me fight bots again. Fucking pisses me off, just uninstalled it.

Jesus fucking christ the absolute state of console peasants

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So this... Is the potential... Of a controller user.... Wow.

No. The OP webm - also a From Software game - proves this.

Nowadays?

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>the FPS was above 20
What kind of shitty potato are you trying to run it on? Let me guess, still have your "trusty, old" 760?

fpbp

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Morrowind definitely isn't a slow game assuming you know what you're doing.

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This can't be real.

ayy

You can't cramp in as many screen effects and the 2cool4u cinematic experience if the game is too fast!

yikes

whoa...games back then...damn they were fast......

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>cpm

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Bait

>mfw there's a CPMApe near me

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think about it though, if rail wasn't in the game, don't you think perhaps Quake would have a much bigger population?
Quake is fast but nobody is faster than hitscan and instagib.
Like how TF2 could be considered faster paced if people didn't flock the the plays-itself engineer and oneshot fishing sniper classes.

Is there something I'm missing?

Because that jumping around sprinty bullshit sucks major cock and I hate it. Im autistic though and just want true vr squad.

Not sure if the game would be more popular but it would be better for sure, rail is a crutch weapon for shitters

Yeah, this image.

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But Morrowind can be very fast, assuming you know how to build a character for it and/or how to abuse the magic system and/or keening glitch.

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>YOU N'WAH!
>*starts slo-mo running to you*
you can be absurdly fast, but not npcs.

^
nice

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That's pretty standard, enemies in Quake aren't fast either.

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>assuming you know what you're doing
This can be applied to many games. That's why speedrunning became an actual thing. That's not what OP is talking about and neither the guy who posted the morrowind picture.

i hate that q3 is seen as the golden fps. it was less popular than q2 back then and i preferred the slower physics of it. q3 is too off the walls. with that said yes even q2 was infinitely faster and more action than the walking simulator and movie game crapola today

high elo console siege is 99% xim users

>Top tier players can totally hang when one is playing with an input handicap

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play titanfall

>fast as fuck
>fun as fuck
>strafejump while sliding
>grappling hook slingshots across the map
>giant robots
>robot waifus
>giant robot waifus

>headshots using automatics preferable with no recoil and low health
>regen health
>titans are always a clusterfuck in any mode they're in except arguably LTS
>shitty maps until content updates
>matchmaking only due to tiny playerbase
meh

this

youtu.be/O60UKO40828?t=1661
youtube.com/watch?v=HqVeAk4eGUQ
youtu.be/p2tNQkzqUbY
youtube.com/watch?v=LzsVaDyHGUc
youtube.com/watch?v=ouATcQfSEww

have you considered looking at non-mainstream non-shovelware games?

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i cry every time

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anyone else play Quake Champions?

it's pretty fun

no
qc can get fucked
it was decent once, now its trash

What's the problem with it besides poor optimisation?

well...there's nothing else

Canyon is the most difficult yet most satisfying tm. Too bad the game is dead and the majority of servers host bullshit retarded maps.

>tournament level play

netcode
battle passes
microtransactions
bullshit unskilled abilities

Morrowind's level scaling doesn't go that far. But you will get your ass handed to you by Solstheim fast-forward ultra-damage werewolves.

Doom 2016 had the intention of being a fastpaced game, but the corridors and small rooms, combined with the enemy waves ruined every good will that the game originally had.

>battle passes
>microtransactions
Well , that's the state of gaming rn , till the casual gamers stop committing microtransactions it will be present.

Abilities are imo moderatly bullshit , but their existance really doesnt help the game.

Well, doesn't cancel the rest of the problem.

Because the person in this webm is exploiting a glitch to move faster than intended
Also this.

>wide FOW + fast speed + tight corridors
those games always made me sick

i stopped playing after getting gibbed with a rail that hit me through a teleport
and in general when the game dropped from 170+fps to 40

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And that's the fault of consoles as well, though not because of the inferiority of analog stick control.

It's fun but the bunnyhopping feature is retarded, it feels like I am exploiting a glitch even though I know the devs designed it that way on purpose.
It's an arbitrary skill requirement.
Also ronin needs major buffs.

Play Risk of Rain 2, after 30-40 minutes you'll be sliding over the map

wow, you can circlestrafe a fucking turret
real impressive

so turn down the FoV to 90-95. Nobody's demanding you play with 110.

how much content is in the game is it worth it

Definitely worth getting. Its obviously not finished yet but it'll already occupy you for hours.I think it has about 7 stages and 6 characters

you don't get it
that turret is a player and he literally can't keep up with the enemy because the turn rate isn't fast enough with a controller

oh
OH
wait, you play a fucking turret?

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Because of the netcode and performance they keep saying they've improved yet never have improved. Their last patch took THREE MONTHS to do and they just revised the economy to keep the gaming from fully dying.

Rip /qln/. Also rip /arena/, i miss degenerate sorlagposting

>low fatique
>a fucking Orc probably not skilled in magic
Every single time

How are you still this unfamiliar with overwatch? One of the characters is a robot that can transform himself into a turret

Basically. That's a character called Bastion. One of his attacks is to basically turn into a Brass Beast Heavy.

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>tfw 450ms reaction time on good days

>implying overwatch porn isn't the only part of overwatch worth paying attention to

oh, so that's what that was at the srart
cut me some slack, the tortanic shtick got old

>not dunking on smg-using stimniggers with an EPG
sasuga, slow-kun
>skill-based movement mechanics are retarded
you are the reason why games today are slow

The myth with you arenafags that faster automatically means better is ridiculous. These arena shooters aren't popular anymore because they are so simplistic. Just look at that webm. It isn't fun to most for hours on end one shotting everybody while moving around like you are Sonic. Other FPS may be slower but they feel more engaging because there is more to them then simply running around a map and shooting. Arena shooters take more skill perhaps because of how simplistic but hard to master they are but that doesn't instantly mean better or people even caring.

I'm glad shooters changed from this formula. I just wish that battle royale didn't take over.

> (OP)
The myth with you arenafags that faster automatically means better is ridiculous. These arena shooters aren't popular anymore because they are so simplistic.

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Am I the only one fast enough to catch this?

Or maybe it's got something to do with the newest one being some 15 years old.

So you've never played it. Good to know your opinion on it does not matter then.

Enough with this stupid shit man. Why can't a person make an argument without someone resorting to meme pictures or posts? In fact why can't we just agree and understand each other here? I'm not saying arena shooters are even bad. All I said was I don't think they are better nor do most people. Most of you people on here are massive trolls and do not even play arena shooters. This has been long established.

Why is this webm moving at Halo speed when this is Quake?

onions? What?

I miss it, i need new games where i can just go berserk in a fast way. Not even Nu-Doom let you do that until late in the game.

Play Quake Champions

Yeah, quake gets boring pretty fast unless you're trying to git gud. Mods used to be the thing keeping noobs around but I don't think that's ever coming back.
QL compensated by adding a lot of them as game modes but they were always empty except for clan arena. As flawed as the QC matchmaking is I like that it at least lets you play any gamemode without getting on irc.

The way I see it is id pretty much invented the genre and perfected it that fast. There really is nothing left to build upon besides gimmicks like what Quake Champions is. This isn't a knock on arena at all but more a massive praise on just how talented old id used to be. That they perfected a genre of gaming that fast.

When you already have examples of perfection there really is nothing more you could do with it. So of course arena shooters are done. Anything else that tries to be a perfect arena shooter is just going to end up copying Quake or I guess even Unreal. These games have nothing to build upon at all and for today's gamers are too difficult to play and get good at anyways. Pro's will mop them up. For myself I prefer late 00's shooters anyways or just Halo classic.

This.
youtube.com/watch?v=-C4j3hDEL3E

Guys, i think he's actually serious

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Tbh i Like slower paced shooters Like mech warrior or Most Cover shooters (gears/the Division) but i admit that's because i am just Not fast enough at aiming

fu

fuck you

Fucking slows, stop posting on my board

>not recognizing it immediately

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I actually did, but I'm astroturfing the reply count

trust me. you can have fun even at high skill ceiling games and games that are perceived to require good mechanical skill and thought requirement put into playing

Titanfall 2 already has skill based movement with wall running and grapple, it doesn't need the bunny bullshit.

>getting this butthurt over the truth
Played plenty of Overwatch. Huge dissapointment, went back to TF2 and put another couple hundred hours in that after wasting 200 on OW.

it really feels like I wasted time on overwatch
people that still play it are born to be cucks

Why are people even watching this disabled shit?

This is pretty fucking weird considering The Witcher is a much better experience on a gamepad and I can complete the game on the hardest difficulty no problem.

I wasted time, money, and just left frustrated and disappointed. Part of it is definitely due to me being a compfag at the time though. I feel like if I were to have only played Casual and not taken the game seriously like my friends I would have had a better time. But they fucked up Casual too by implementing shit like hero limits so no more fun comps ever.

Fuck.

Still mad Ubisoft retarded business model basically killed the franchise.
Selling the game in kit. Fucking retards.

quake is fun and all but it's speed has nothing to do with it's age, the majority of games now are faster than the majority of games back then, you can't cherrypick the fastest game back then and generalize like that

>Shmups
>Good fighting games
>Slow
Yea Forums has no idea what it's talking about

So try it without the controller

Team Fortress
youtube.com/watch?v=SI840bR3HYc

Team Fortress 2
youtube.com/watch?v=LV9fYemhbY4

fuck (you)

lol
reminds me of this

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Getting old fucking sucks.
Experience doesn't balance out all what is lost.

because they don't know better things exist

I'd love an FPS purely designed around having all of the guns give you different types of movement options. Like, obviously rocket jumping would be a thing, but also stuff like single-shot railguns with massive knockback, shotguns with less knockback but multiple shots and a decent fire rate so you can do multiple trajectory changes, machine guns that provide consistent aerial acceleration and maneuverability but need to be fired constantly and have low damage, etc. Movement options are one of my favorite mechanics in FPSs and they should really see more play.

Fortnite seems somewhat fast for a game on console and pc.

no one deserves this

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FPS on consoles is retarded but 3rd person games are way better with controller

>getting old
but I'm 20

TPS are better with a mouse.

What's the difference?

This is how console shooters would play without auto-aim Yea Forums.

FPBP

>Playing TPS
3rd person games are designed for the controller and have amazing button layouts, at least the good ones. Just play Vanquish or DMC 5 with controller and KBM and you'll see the difference

underage apex shitter detected, got you in the pipe 5x5

Unironically this. OW is the closest thing you'll get to a modern arena shooter, so just embrace it

Story behind this picture?

>Doesn't like TPS
>Play Vanquish
Are you retarded?

kys

>What are examples

I unorincally did in s1. Slowest most brainless gameplay ever. Spam at shields until someone fucks up, then go in a wipe a team. Unless one team picks a bad comp, then just autowin/lose.

fast games that I know of:
>Super Cloudbuilt
>Distance
>Redout
>Sonic Mania
You're welcome :)

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Speaking of fast games, is Wipeout any good?

still makes me laugh because going out of ADS out would result in actually enough scatter to at least hit his opponent

These are some great webms. I wish more games had this sense of speed in them today.
NOT ME MUM

Why not make the run speed faster so you don't have to bunny hop like a retard?

tell em

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Can't accurately control direction with console sticks in a fast game. Slow down the character to molasses and the inaccuracy doesn't matter that much.

B&R
The sooner consoles finally die the sooner we can evolve games.

We were talking about third person shooters and not hack and slash games. You need to aim still and mouse is clearly superior for that.
Console TPS are cover-based shit that was designed to offset the gamepad handicap.

The genre doesn't matter if the game has a shitty m/k support or controller support it will play like shit. Warframe has a good m/k support.

I wish they added grenade launcers instead of the tribold in QC

I bet I'm faster than you faggot.

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refer to

escape from tarkov does this incredibly well, both iron sights and point firing are useful for different situations

>gamepads
This.

Cucksoles ruined everything.

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FPS games need to be slowed down on console because controllers are shitty and imprecise compared to a mouse

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Xbox and switch have gyro which is great and very precise

>Because the person in this webm is exploiting a glitch to move faster than intended
This "glitch" is a part of a gameplay and that's why it makes it so unique and amazing.
For instance, Dota has a lot of bugs like that too and many of them became a part of the game and work as intended now.

Zoomers can't handle the SPEED.

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>gyro which is great and very precise
That hasn't been my experience. The accuracy of the mouse is that it is offset. you move you hand so far and it moves so many degrees. the gyro can never match that since like a stick it is accelerated. with accelerated aiming you lean so much for so long and it keeps going until you stop.

I don't think it is possible for a shooter. For example doing very quick circles or changing your angle instantly is easy with a mouse. You can do tiny adjustments.

You can't really replicate these kind of movements on a gyro.

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how do you bunny hop. I've looked up videos and read guides but shiet doesn't make sense.

>Zoomers
Is this a new meme on reddit?

twitter.com/Iona_Aris/status/988375533418307584
you have no idea what you're talking about

You need to move your mouth smoothly.
Depending on the game, it usually goes like that:

Hold W
Mouse moves to the right + D + Jump
Mouse moves to the left + A + Jump

In some cases you don't need to hold W, you basically just circle-jump with A/D.

Yes, zoomer, very new meme.

Xbox doesn't have gyro I think you mean ps4. Useless tech anyway since no game use it.

>using the player movement to adjust the aim rather than the camera
Fucking Polygonniggers

dog sees cake

There's nothing wrong with that, it's one of the aiming techniques. Obviously, not as shown on that webm.

Always wondered. How bullshit are heroes with auto-lock weapons like Symmetry and Winston on consoles?

I sometimes have to do this with a mouse when doing long-range accurate sniper shots because crawling a tiny distance to the side is a smaller adjustment of my aim than the smallest distance I can move the mouse with accuracy. But it's probably because of a cheap mouse with bad dpi

>using the player movement to adjust the aim rather than the camera
Literally the only way to hit anything with a controller without autoaim.

Well they aren't anymore.

gravity is heavier today than 20 years ago

>This is a 20 year old game
Still holds up graphically.

>you have no idea what you're talking about

>player can hit a bunch of stationary targets while not moving themselves
Is this supposed to be impressive? Wake me up when you have a video of Splatoon where the player moves as fast as in Quake while simultaneously hitting enemies moving at the same speed

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stop moving the goalposts and accept you got btfo you frogposting retard
you literally don't even know how the gyro works

>take adderal
>have superhuman reflexes and beat normal human opponents

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Isn't Scout like, almost twice as fast as tracer?
Console shooters are fucking never fast.

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I personally think it's pretty impressive if gyroscopic control has advanced enough to have that little float or latency. Almost makes one think that one day VR bullshit might not be just a retarded gimmick afterall.

Make it work for PC and pwn some people then.

youtube.com/watch?v=B43ibnztDLc

explain cs

Tell pro CSGO gamers to switch to it, since it's clearly better according to you.

don't know which is more pathetic, that one splatoonpedo or the tripfag that posts in every 'quake' thread

console kids

literally me when playing on a gamepad

Calm down user he didnt post a frog/wojack.
That image actually explains it pretty well.

Eurofag?

?

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eat shit

aint no way somebody born before 1990 is using the phrase "console kids"
youre probably just as much of a console kid as anyone else still playing these shitty games desu

Brutal

youtu.be/G0ElNQVYDsA
done with a controller

just b urself lol

Aiming down sights

onions.

dirty

>titanfall
>fast as fuck
let me guess, you think CoD4:MW was actually a fast and good shooter?

>>fast as fuck
lol clearly youve never seen competitive titanfall before
you think movement speed makes a game fast paced. thats how i know youre bad

> Why are games so slow nowadays?
Because strafe jumping is for retards.

>That may have been true in the past, but now there are definitely people using controllers that can match up to some keyboard users. Some people are autistically good at Siege on console.
lol

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>Some people are autistically good at Siege on console.

People used KB+M emulation during the online qualifiers on consoles. After getting to the LAN part they obviously couldn't use KB+M emulation anymore and had to use a garbage controller, results are
All here.

You fucking stupid to even assume that people using controllers can have ANYTHING even remotely similar in terms of skill with PC competitive scene.
It's ALWAYS separated same as Women and Men competition.

>People used KB+M emulation
this is so fucking stupid and i'll never understand it
>kbm console adapters really do suck because you cant 180 without picking up the mouse
>trying to obtain better accuracy in a game thats who sees who first

retard

Symmetra's weapon doesn't have lock on anymore, and she was the only character that had. Winston's just has a fuckhuge hitbox.
The true terror in console as I've heard it is Torb, iirc his turret is nerfed compared to PC.

except qc is honestly pretty slow compared to ql
duel pacing is a fucking joke
the overall ttk is a joke
everything is just imbalanced and op
cant overstack yellows so you gotta h urt yourself
theres just no point in even having map control in duel

You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.
What's even your duel rank in QC?

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>2019
>consoletards still believe this

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Shadow Warrior was pretty fast, althou killing everything with a katana instead of weapons was much more fun.

Having played a shit ton of TPS on KB+M I always wonder why people say it's far superior to be a consolepleb for them. An RL friend of mine kept arguing that it was easier to play GTA IV on console, but I just steamrolled everything with headshots while he took forever to complete any mission.

Not him but if you don't have 2.5+kd on any codgame you are garbage. They are so easy.

thats tf2

im only around 1700 because i dont even main on pc
its just plow plow plow all day. no skill
rounds are garbage

yeah, because you can't change sensitivity, of course

>but now there are definitely people using controllers that can match up to some keyboard users
>literally never watched competitive halo
honestly way more skill than anything else out there between 2004-2010

Good idea, thanks

>lining up
great content, thank you.

>bunnyhop in the original Thief
>build up speed
>hit a wall
>die

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those rjs are complete dogshit m8

i guess the best player in the game doesn know what he's talking about either lmfao
youtu.be/sCAO_lp68tQ?t=483
fuck off you stupid shill

Idk marvel vs capcom 2 is pretty fast as is wipeout omega and f zero gx oh wait you mean Fps maybe don’t be a faggot and clarify that.

If I'd want to know Rapha's opinion about the game (that is in general positive) I'd talk to him directly without some schizoid proxy like you.

Quake pros would play anything for the money, you don't need to look in their mouth all the time, kid.

I don't like rounds as well. QC however in no way "slow" compared to QL because of characters like Clutch, Anarki, Ranger with a sphere, etc.
Walking in both games is the same except in QC you have faster champions and very aggressive pushers like Clutch with his shield before it was nerfed. Or Anarki who's getting to you with supersonic speed and because of his tiny hitbox he often has an upper hand in fights.

Also speed entirely depends on the map. Maps like ztn3dm1 often offer you to play with +back ratting gameplay. Someone who gets a kill or two can run from you non stop until the end of the match and good fucking luck killing him.

fuck you retard

I remember playing NotHalo at a friend's once in middle school. Looked something like that. He was laughing like a motherfucker all the way through.

yep, I enjoy movement in that game

it's just retarded bullshit with no merit, the perspective doesn't matter

Actually, that distinction is exactly why gyro is so much better than dual stick. It tracks movement directly. Your input is a position, not a velocity. It's the same as a mouse in that regard. It's got three problems. That's not one of them. That's the point and its main benefit. The problems are
>still a good deal less accurate than a mouse(speed vs accuracy is an actual tradeoff)
>you can't turn around fast with a properly calibrated sense
>have to re-center the camera constantly
The last two are only problems because games don't support gyro. If there was some way to track absolute cursor position(it's always middle of the screen in first person, trash value), you'd be able to mod in a splatoon button and solve the last two problems. That works great, see: Splatoon, Dusk. It's still a huge step up from stick regardless, but re-centering the camera manually all the time gets really fucking old.

if you could, you would have that much harder time aiming anyway
analogs are trash either way

god damn you suck.
KF2 is all about strafing.
I beat this dude with L3 Excellator.

it's obviously harder to aim with a controller, but analogs aren't trash at all

(I'm not a console guy at all)

90% of FPS nowadays don't use raw input thanks to multiplat development.

>fromsoftware game is slow jank, news at 11

Analog sticks are garbage for fast, precise movement and aim control. They're so garbage people need autoaim even for slower games, they're just bad. Games are designed around those limitations and also the fact that most consolefags seem to prefer 30FPS and potentially play on TVs with high input lag. Q3 released in the CRT age, higher refresh rate and low input lag were standard back then, modern consoles are the complete opposite.

You pizza shit

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Get shrekd, you superstitious faggot

>I opened my nintedo switsh to play suber mario ooddyssey and the game was loaded to save file 'youdie'
>this was weird because i had never opened the game before why was there a save file
>when i opened it i had 666 moons and i was in a mario world called 'super hell land' and mario was there and so was satan
>mario was getting flayed alive by satan and he was crying hyperrealistic bloody tears
>then satan looked at me and screamed i threw the switch across the room i was so scarred
>then lucifer came out of swish and said your mom will die in her sleep tonight if you don't (you) this post

and some fuck pull the dog ears

>3rd person games are designed for the controller and have amazing button layouts
I don't play this sort of game very often, but from what I remember most of them suffer from the highly annoying flaw that you need to occasionally move your right thumb away from the right stick in order to use face buttons, thus potentially giving up camera control during combat unless you're holding the controller in some RSI-inducing sort of grip which avoids this issue. This was always incredibly annoying to me. Mouse/kb controls obviously do not have this issue and you never have to give up camera control.

literally niggers

>That fucking video
PURE
youtube.com/watch?v=66UQWFeMdQc
KINO

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clearly the difficulty was lowered because you used a gamepad

unless you play competitively it doesn't even matter, you just need to strafe jump and frag

VR aim doesn't have much to do with gyro aim. Aim in VR is most similar to mouse aim both in the sense that a specific movement of your arm/wrist translates directly to a specific movement in-game (1:1 in this case) and also in the fact that you aim with your arm and wrist directly. It's nothing like gyro.

oh you mean games that don't require aiming

quake... now that's the game

that's not nice

This is too sexual for this board

>VR aim doesn't have much to do with gyro aim.
vr aim has NOTHING to do with gyro

it is a 1:1 real life translation, it is miles ahead of 2D mouse mistranslation and any other input

Huge FOV != fast
Not to mention that your webm isn't displaying anything special

high fov makes your character run faster guys

you heard it here first

Pretty sure Widowmaker has like 25% less winrate on console than on PC because nobody can actually aim with her

>vr aim has NOTHING to do with gyro
Well it depends on what you mean. I do believe the controllers use gyros and accelerometers for motion tracking in addition to Constellation/Lighthouse/WMR CV. In terms of how you use it, no, it's nothing like gyro aim. Which is what I said
>It's nothing like gyro.

fpbp

this as well

>Quakefags complain that games are too slow and Quake Champions isn't REAL Quake and that there's no point playing any games other than old Quake
>don't actually play old Quake at all and spend all their time on whatever halfway decent modern shooter is in vogue

Why is this so common?

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because they're faggots, everytime i ask a thread full of quakefags to get on a server they pussy out, when just a minute ago they were posting about how arena shooters are dead and they wish they could play them again

Wait what's this battle pass shit? I haven't played QC since October, do you get this battle pass if you have the champions pack.

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because those quake players are too old to be any good at it now

It gives a sense for speed. Any game with a higher FoV looks faster, the same way any game with lower FoV looks slower. It ain't rocket science, unless you can only breath with your mouth.

iyghkjk

not everyone have adhd

get in the coffin already, you're done

>Turn sensitivity all the way up, you can now spin around at about half the speed of a mouse user
>Give up what laughable precision you had in the first place to do so
>Buy one of these fucking abominations for the added height for precise movements
The absolute fucking state of console gayman

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so basically muh feels?

quake is actually slow? kek

youtube.com/watch?v=QYBs_lslyuY

My favorite Defrag movie.

QL duels are definitely not about being "fast", most pro players walk and listen to the enemy / do not reveal their own position.
You'd only strafe jump to chase someone or to get to the item that you are cycling and have a timing for it.

The real answer people here seem unable to grasp (specially because this thread is a reddit tier circlejerk) is that it's not the fucking console controllers, shooter already slowed down on PC on their own, just compare Half-life and Doom, simply put people prefer the slower movement.
>inb4 git gud, my preferences are the objective truth, etc.
Nobody cares gramps.

>jumping is ea...
youtube.com/watch?v=qNrt6coie2Y

youtube.com/watch?v=SAxPgIv4Q8s

you forgot one thing
>sit comfortable and enjoy the game

lol

Tracer's not even fast. All she can do is teleport a few steps forward.

>when dreamcast could play quake 3 against pc console users got rolled. microsoft tried to do it with something and the 360 and the same thing happened

I was probably one of the top 10 players in Shadowrun and I played on 360.

In QC you can just hold space to continuously jump, but you can time jumps when you land to gain more speed, it's still easy, they give plenty of room for the jumps.
In QC some characters have different rules for bhopping.
In case of Sorlag (in the webm) and Anarky you can turn in the air easily and while you're jumping you just smoothly turn you mouse and hold button for the same direction, no need press W after initial jump. Other characters can't really turn while in the air so you'll just gain speed until you hit the wall, you can probably hold W with them.
All of that doesn't matter, because most shooters with bhopping are dead.

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elaborate

trickjump.me/tjmod/cgaz.php
youtube.com/watch?v=rTsXO6Zicls

So yeah, if you want to learn how to strafe jump, use cgaz hud.

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>jumping on space and not RMB

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>All of that doesn't matter, because most shooters with bhopping are dead.
There's bhopping in apex legends

I'm shit at aiming already, imagine me trying to aim and moving mouse a little every time I press jump on RMB.

>>Buy one of these fucking abominations for the added height for precise movements
i bought the highest one i could find and it is still pretty much shit, it improved like angle accuracy (that is important when playing a game like skate), my actual aim not so much, it also increased the travel time from one side to another, it is a mixbag