86 different units, many of which with their own special abilities

Blew so many hours on this game.

>tfw you kit out your waifu hero with custom artefacts and send her out to burn the world

the african titty warlock gave me jungle fever as a kid

I thought she was a man until I picked her portrait once and saw the titties.

Can someone explain which mod should I download for this game? There are a couple out there that bring QoL improvements and I forgot which one was recommended.

>like 20 remakes, reimaginings and spiritual successors over the years
>none even comes close to the original that fits on a single floppy

Same with X-Com. I mean how hard is it to top a 30 year old game, surely game devs learned new things since then and technology moved forward?

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>pick full black and hobbits as my slave race
>use human sacrifices to power a necromantic war machine
>carpet the earth with the dead

feels good nigga

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I used the insecticide patch.

shit graphics

>Sage Master
top kek

I blame the obsession with balance. MoM is fun because everything's fucking broken and the counter to bullshit is pulling out even bigger bullshit of your own. Some races are god tier, some are shit and are equivalent to playing with a handicap - but still noticeably different in what they can and can't do. It's in a way a 4X sandbox where you're experimenting for the fun of it as much as you are optimizing.
New games tend to make the spells something dull and inconsequential beyond a simple numbers game like +10% Damage Reduction and just leave it at that. MoM goes "The spearmen now have 100% melee damage immunity. Enjoy."

I'm not convinced, show me it in action

Roland any day.

>when I realized how pegasus knights were ranged flying and they could never be damaged by melee unless I allowed them to melee first

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>cast Armageddon
>volcanoes popping up all over the world
>everyone hates you
>but every volcano appearing on the map increases your power
I love this game.

abandonia.com/en/games/189/Master of Magic.html
>Buy It!
What? You can no longer download it?
>Company: SimTex / Atari
>Atari
Atari fucking bought the rights to Master of Magic? And it's no longer abandonware as a result? But why?

Thank GoG for it.

Why? You think Atari wouldn't have bought the rights to it otherwise?

Yeah, thanks, I think that was the one.

I think Atari has always had them. They ended up with MicroProse, hadn't they?
What wouldn't have happened without GoG though is Atari giving a single fuck about sites like HotU and Abandonia having the game up for download.

>Worse Dominions
Pass. Try 3000+ units, 800+ spells, nations with unique modifiers and massively moddable.

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I got Dominions 4 on some sale but I read it's mostly an MP game? Is it worth learning to play for SP?

Dominions is, at its heart, a multiplayer game. Get Dominions 5 and play PBEMs with /domg/. You will not regret it.

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It was 30 floppies

How it usually starts
>This game is fun to play but 30 years old. We can make it better, we have the TECHNOLOGY!
and it usually ends
>feature creep, aiming too high or memory bloat forces sudden cutdowns
>all newly added stuff makes the game not fun to play

Or just
>game is popular but old, lets bring it into [current year]!
>ends up as casual garbage with zero consequences for choices

Dominions is only MP centered because it lacks any sensible AI outside of
>produce random shit
>spend gems on random shit
>pile up that shit
>crash shit into neighboring province

runemaster + artificer

best broken combo

>11 black books
>immediately summon wraith
Zombies for days
But nah we all know white+famous+warlord is the best option

>Play myrran
>That lizard fuck is there
>Red magic guy finds his way down pretty much immediately.
>Both are unreasonably hostile as shit
>Massive 3 way war erupts
>Goes on for fucking ever, noone wants peace, noone is strong enough to beat either of the other two
>Never even get to see the surface because I'm to busy defending the underworld
>Eventually some shitty npc I never even met on the surface casts the spell of mastery
I've never lost via spell of mastery before or since

INVISIBLE
FLYING
WARSHIPS

INVISIBLE
FLYING
SLINGERS

I can never bring myself to start on Myrror. 3 fucking picks.

Torin the Chosen

Myrror is a real dice roll. You can get seriously fucked and end up surrounded by great drakes or other shit and it takes you ages to make any progress. Or you can get lucky with a few undefended nodes/lairs and shit with awesome treaure that let you expand quickly umolested and exploit them sweet magic roads to pop dudes up on the surface wherever you want.

Dominions doesn't have terraforming, tactical battles or global spells on par with Master of Magic.

If you are playing on Hard or Impossible there will be at least 1 wizard on Myrran, be prepared for that.

But Dominions *does* have global spells which can create a new sun, suck diseases from peoples' bodies on a worldwide scale, cause everyone to age rapidly, extinguish all light or cause the oceans to freeze over.

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I'll give you no terraforming but dominions has way more globals than MoM and more interesing ones too. It also has a literal wish spell where you just type in what you want and there are tons of options for it.

This, Dominions is basically a deeper MoM, and you also can't hide in your SP shell, but since everyone is shit at Dominions it's not like you'll be the only one getting stomped in MP, in a 20 player game you'll be joined by another 18 scrubs who get their shit pushed in.
>global spells
Globals in Dominions are actually better than in MoM.
>terraforming
You can change the scales of provinces, which is the same thing, though it's not as visual no.
>tactical battles
Do you mean real time commanded by players? In that case no due to the PBEM nature of the game, though the tactics in Dominions are a lot deeper than MoM, but of course that is all scripted beforehand and you don't control anything.

Dominions have piss poor province enchantments due to mage turn economy, range of casting and research restrictions. In Master of Magic you can start with Stream of Life in your book at the start. Spells like Dark Rituals are very useful. Dominions don't have global spells which shape the land, they only affect the scales.

>dominions has way more globals than MoM and more interesing ones too
Spell of Mastery is one of the victory conditions. Why would you play a game if you want to get to the endgame and play sandbox with Wish?

What are those better global spells in Dominions which are used? Gem generators and the Death magic package?

>Goalposts moved from not having global spells to not having specific brands of global spells and global spells not being strong enough

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>or global spells on par with Master of Magic
I compared global spells in both games in the post you replied to. Who is moving goalposts now?

I feel like fantasy 4X games where you are a wizard normally don't go far enough. I should be able to do broken shit like make my troops immune to mortal weapons and shit. It's one of the reasons I like dominions so much.

>This, Dominions is basically a deeper MoM
It's really not, it doesn't play anything like it. I love both games, but they are completely different other than the theme. The battles are nothing alike, there's no real city building in Dominions, the map is closer to Risk than Civ. And that's just the absolute basics of the gameplay mechanics, when you get into details you can go on and on, like crafting preset items vs customs, specific pearls vs general mana, one player wizard with set skills vs offloaded magic and breaking into paths with summons etc.

Literally a spell in the Life magic list.

The generic ones most commonly used are the gem gens yes. But you also have gift of health for curing afflictions and tartarians. Forge of the ancients appears in almost every game too. Burden of time and frozen seas are a classic to just fuck with somebody over. And then there is astral corruption which just causes chaos. Also there is a lot of nation specific globals that are mostly all useful and great.

There are some globals that are essentially game winners so you kinda have spell of mastery sometimes. Utterdark being most common one.

Name me one MoM global that is as interesting as Burden of Time, Astral Corruption, Wish (arguably a global, try wishing for Armageddon), Utterdark/Theft of the Sun, and Frozen Seas.

Face it, Dominions has a lot more depth and variety than MoM, the only reason you don't want to accept it is because you're a competition-adverse SP faggot and MoM has nostalgia value.

I played it fag. Great game, even if it's broken and unbalanced as hell.

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Couldn't you pick anything other than typical Ermor/Abyssia package to represent Dominions?

Crusade, Just Cause, Planar Seal, Aura of Majesty, Time Stop, Armageddon, Doom Mastery, Great Wasting, Meteor Storm, Eternal Night, Evil Omens. And several town enchantments which are no less fun than global spells you listed: Cloud of Shadow, Spell Ward, Flying Fortress.

>Spell Ward
Dominions has like a dozen of those, each with their own specific effects.

Really? Which province enchantments in Dominions forbid creatures of certain type (magic creature, undead, demon, construct, etc) or magic path to enter the province and spells of that path to be used there?

It would be cool if Dominions had enchantment which forbid non-magical creatures and muggle commanders from passing through the province. Something cool stuff for ponymen.

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>Crusade
+xp
>Just Cause
-unrest
>Planar Seal
This one is interesting, though pretty obvious due to mechanics, frozen sea basically works the same in Dominions.
>Aura of Majesty
+relations
>Time Stop
Yes.
>Armageddon
Yes.
>Doom Mastery
Unit buff, Dominions has those except they are specific rather than generic (e.g. any unrest increasing global works that way for Yomi).
>Great Wasting
Province ruining global, Dominions has a few of those.
>Meteor Storm
Similar to above, too many to bother naming in Dominions.
>Eternal Night
Utterdark, Theft of the Sun, as well as battlefield spells.
>Evil Omens
Yes, though it relies on the realm mechanic so can't really be compared but Dominions has plenty of comparable stuff within its own mechanics.
Wrath of God will strike anyone not yours based on your Dominion scale in the province. Purgatory will strike down undead that enter your Dominion. Burden of Time will kill everything that isn't undead or a demon (and eventually demons too). Foul air fucks up anyone not undead or with poison resistance (e.g. the swamp lizards). Astral Corruption basically stops every non-blood ritual and fucks over anyone who isn't a blood nation.

What's your point? Spell Ward literally wards certain magic, it doesn't kill creatures like Purgatory. If you say they are the same you are completely mistaken.

>Crusade
+xp
>Second Sun
+heat
>Burden of Time
+age
>Astral Corruption
+horrormark
>Utterdark = Eternal Night
>Frozen Seas = Planar Seal
>Wish is a sandbox

>Get BTFO by how horribly simple some spells are
>B-but yours are also simple!
>+[complicated thing]

>+heat
Yes, and? Heat interactions are very complex in Dominions. Higher heat means most spellcasters fatigue faster, cold blooded creatures function a lot better, fire magic is more effective, and income across the entire world is affected depending on the nation's preferred scales.
>+age
Age, again, is a lot more complicated. High fertility nations will last longer, as will nations with younger commanders or simply races that live longer, while the ones with old age mages or just humans will start dropping like flies.
>+horrormark
You're trying to compare me saying a flat stat boost is simple and boring with something like every path but blood becoming incredibly risky, doesn't work that way.
>Utterdark = Eternal Night
>Frozen Seas = Planar Seal
Pretty much yeah.
>Wish is a sandbox
Yes, and? Doesn't make it not exist.

Crusade increases maximum level by 1 as if in Dominions all units could sport a 6th star and started with 1 star minimum. Together with Warlord it unlocks Champion level which makes even mundane units monsters. And of course, there is Altar of Battle which upgrades new units raised in the city to max level.

10 Fame from Just Cause is worth 10 gold shaved off unit maintenance and it increases chance of attracting better heroes and artifacts seller.

>Planar Seal
>This one is interesting
It's one of the most boring but it's analogue to travel fuckery in Dominions.

>Doom Mastery
>Unit buff, Dominions has those
Tell of those unit buffs in Dominions which aren't cast in the battle and don't disappear afterwards

>Great Wasting
>Province ruining global
It spawns random pollution which can be cleansed by priests and shamans or certain spells. It doesn't work like malus to gold to every province.

>Meteor Storm
>Similar to above
It destroys buildings and hurts units outside the cities.

>Eternal Night
>Utterdark, Theft of the Sun, as well as battlefield spells.
I know, right? Utterdark before Dominions were released. You brought them up as example of something unique and original in Dominions and now you admit they are not. Not that it's a bad thing.

Does Dominion have that global zombie spell? Ir the volcano global
I loved those spells. they were the epitome of shit officially being turned up to 11

>cold blooded creatures function a lot better
Cold blooded creatures suffer in all climates other than Heat 1 and Heat 0. They get additional fatigue in high heat and shitton of fatigue in Cold climate.

Not him but this is a good example of how much shit is in Dominions when a lot of people who have hundreds of hours in it still don't know certain mechanics. Not that many care about cold blooded unless they are filthy C'tis players.

>You're trying to compare me saying a flat stat boost is simple and boring with something like every path
I did exactly as you did by simplifying to absurdity and ignoring all the ingame consequences. Don't act as a hypocrite.

Death magic global actually end up making the world better by soaking up illnesses and aging into one spot for distillation.
Sadly (at least until after 4) there are no global skelly spammers outside of specific nations.
You can make human nations shit themselves by globally accelerated aging tho.

There are weapons and spells which raise soulless on kill but they disappear after the battle.

I played it quite a lot. It's a great game hampered by its old UI.

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I don't play PC games

Old man! You seek the spell of mastery!

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I love MoO 1 and 2 but never tried this. Gotta grab it when it's on sale in GOG.

>hampered by its old UI
there is nothing wrong with the ui

Play the weeb version then.

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>super powerful wizard snowballs into being near unbeatable
>plane shift right next to his capital and banish him
>he drops all the way to last place because all his summons and enchantments wear off before he gets back
There is something weirdly magical about this game.

Which dominions is the best?

Tehy are all incremental updates, so it's 5.