>Bloodstained Ritual of the Night >modern gen game, plays exactly the same as every other igavania with not a single new feature for gameplay >getting money from fans off kickstarter >meanwhile this fan is remaking sotn with an entirely new combat system with chain combos and air combos like an action game and vastly increased difficulty >is doing it for free
He had to do extensive editting to make all the new material though. Iga just copy pasted shit for YEARS, and now bloodstained is the same.
Bentley Rivera
so cool all he had to do was steal sprites from someone who made them for pay
Jace Foster
Look, I love the game for its atmosphere and spritework and music, but the gameplay wasn't that good. Combat was extremely limited, no combos or anything of the sort or a parry, no evade, nothing. It was barebones. The game was also piss easy, the enemies were extremely limited and barely had any attacks, and the attacks they did have were easy as fuck to avoid. Also Alucard's shield rod spells were broken as fuck, and the stat system made it so he becomes an unkillable god halfway through the game. Why emulate that instead of improving it? Iga is setting bloodstained up for failure. I already saw gameplay videos of bosses that were easy as fuck with barely any attacks.
Alexander Nguyen
>Why emulate that instead of improving it? because monkey see monkey do is all plebs know how to do
fuck yeah, looking forward to spamming the one attack you get with each weapon, gonna be sick bros
Ayden Gray
Meanwhile you still literally don't have a point and are autistically repeating the same words that don't mean anything
Dylan Sanders
>dark souls invented combos and parrying/evading in action rpgs
are you retarded?
Zachary Clark
>autistically repeating the same words that don't mean anything
looks like he's emulating the combat system of bloodstained pretty well then
Kayden Cox
so your ultimate point is that he took sprites from someone else who made them for pay of course i have a point that this person acquisitioned imagery production from another entity who received compensation for his or her efforts
Henry Wood
Ok how about this, he stole sprites, now what? How about the fact he improved the gameplay while Iga hasn't done shit for hiw own game?
Isaiah Young
>Order of Ecclesia had weapon combos if you equipped the same glyph twice >bloodstained just goes back to one attack weapons >animation doesn't even look good when repeating it Okay? So what? The end result is that SOTN hacked is trying to improve on the gameplay of the series while Bloodstained is literally regressing in gameplay compared to previous entries in the castlevania series. What does it matter that a guy that can't make sprites himself pays an artist to make sprites instead? Does this mean that IGA is even much more of a hack since he has to pay a company to make a shitty game for him?
Samuel Brown
>complain about Bloodstained using kickstarter >neglect to mention this hack has a patreon for his work using stolen assets Wow, I wonder who could be behind this?
Alexander Turner
>trying to shove a dodge and parry into every metroidvania isn't the fault of soulsfags
John White
finally, you admit that he stole sprites meanwhile this guy still has work to do in admitting things
Jeremiah Johnson
Is there a place for this game in a post Hollow Knight world?
Juan Martin
What's that other SOTN hack that's supposed to be a mashup of all the versions together? Like you could play as either saturn or psp Maria
Tyler Young
What the fuck this is awesome.
Tyler Roberts
Someone that underestimates the power of Miriam's or her girlfriend's titties.
>does it for free Watch it get a c&d and also going ro jewtreon
Gabriel Young
He's already on patreon. C&D soon.
Dominic Reyes
>Metroidvania >Combos
Nah, fucker has no clue
Jonathan Walker
What do you mean? I clearly said the guy making the hack stole sprites. I'm insinuating he stole more than sprites, right? Assets can be anything? He's modifying code. The entire base of the game is stolen, not just sprites. He shouldn't be taking money for any of it and I assume he's violating patreon tos.
Christian Perry
this
>implying they don't make gameplay more fun
what's wrong with combos? look at this shit man, this looks awful
>buy lol i just want free stuff and then to edit it to have boobs and mugen sprite sex at least you're admitting that he stole sprites
Logan Powell
If he get's C&D he could likely just replace the Alucard sprites and make it into it's own game.
Charles Jenkins
I don't want my Castlevania tainted with fucking combo juggling crap. That said, I'm not a fan of RPG-vania either because it trivializes combat. Games like Hollow Knight understand how to get the best of both worlds, where one, getting better stats is optional, two, the stats increase is more akin to an extra life of powerup than hitting level 99 in SotN, and 3, it doesn't change the core combat in such a way that it removes challenge entirely. Combo based shit only works (barely) it it's like Bloodborne; fast and risky, where dodging is the only mechanic outside of simply reading and memorizing the enemies movements. DMCs "challenge" is about finding the best combo from the best weapon, and only occasionally mixing it up by making certain enemies weak to certain weapons. At least it still has legit boss fights.
Matthew Bailey
>the gameplay wasn't that good It beat the fuck out of all the clones that came after it, and will beat the fuck out of Bloodstained too.
Adam Johnson
>he could likely just replace the Alucard sprites and make it into it's own game. he could have done that in the first place
Joshua White
if he could make his own assets in the first place, he would have.
Carson Sullivan
I wish that blood vampire beauty won the vote for the third playable character.
Xavier Lewis
he could always just change the sprites enough tobe different and say it isn't castlevania
So that's why most of the sprites in the video are completely new? Or did those sprites just magically appear out of nowhere while he wasn't looking? How would he suddenly not be able to get different sprites for the main character (bat and wolf don't need different ones since they already look very different) if he is already capable of obtaining the current new sprites?
Benjamin Morgan
so you're saying he could have made a completely new sprite set and character at that and even weapon choice but chose to steal sprites AND ip as well instead
Adrian Miller
If they didn't capitalize on a new Castlevania after the Netflix show, then it's a pretty telling sign that all they are doing is milking out some older games.
Justin Rivera
>Madden 2019 is better than Kid Icarus Uprising gave me a ponder
Bentley Thomas
>fan game does game better >Gets a cease and desist for their troubles
Jordan Harris
Did those sprites just magically appear out of nowhere while he wasn't looking? How would he suddenly not be able to get different sprites for the main character (bat and wolf don't need different ones since they already look very different) if he is already capable of obtaining the current new sprites?
Daniel Martinez
if he was capable of making his own sprites, why didn't he
Wyatt Thompson
this game looks so much better than bloodstained it hurts
Did those sprites just magically appear out of nowhere while he wasn't looking? How would he suddenly not be able to get different sprites for the main character (bat and wolf don't need different ones since they already look very different) if he is already capable of obtaining the current new sprites?
Parker Reyes
did he magically steal sprites while he wasn't looking how would he suddenly not able to steal sprites from different games (cute b/w wolf) if he is already capable of stealing the sprites
Attacks in combo games usually have no weight. Enemies are just damage sponges. If enemy health levels haven't been dramatically boosted, it may not be a problem here. Then again, if that's the case, there would be no need for combos.
Bentley Anderson
>yfw an indie porn game made by one jap and his erection has a better looking protagonist than the terribly overdesigned real commercial product made by an indie kickstarter dev studio Miriam desperately needed someone to tell the artist to stop adding extra shit onto her.
Cameron Sanchez
Wait you don't like that Miriam is some kind of witch that dresses as a barmaid but also wears a few chunks of metal armor while flashing all of her skin and tattoos?
Gavin Jackson
you're dodging the question
Alexander Morris
It depends on why you are playing. Sotn objectively has better sprites, music, and sound. I personally think Aria has better characters, plot, and most importantly the soul system. It makes every enemy worth fighting, and Dawn improves that by improving soul effects as you gain more and using them for crafting. I hope Bloodstained surpasses that system.
Ryder Gomez
>ATB JRPG combat why on Earth would I want that in a Metroidvania
Aiden Richardson
You don't have a question in the first place, my post literally is everything you have to know to figure out that the shit you are saying is fucking retarded
Connor Rivera
dmc, ninja gaiden, and god hand have weight to combos
Blake Ross
>Gameplay wasn't good Nah, how's about fuck off. Combos don't make good games.
Isaac Harris
and parrying, and then comboing because combos are deep, even moreso than neutral or okizeme strategies in fighting games
Joseph King
>rich kickstarter conman makes a game >it looks like shit >meanwhile inti makes a spinoff game >it's infinitely superior than the main game how?
>capable of making his own sprites and IP >doesn't >instead chooses to ask for money to "update" a nostalgia IP
Connor Collins
>I personally think Aria has better characters, plot Objectively false.
>and most importantly the soul system. It makes every enemy worth fighting Oh fuck, yes, how could I forget? I absolutely LOVED that gimmick designed solely to give grind loving autists a reward for their mind numbing efforts
Jace Wood
>le combos and parry
Fucking sperg,not everything needs to be Ninja Gaiden or Dark Souls
Leo Watson
killing bosses during the intros isn't good gameplay, neither is outleveling all the shit in the game or having only a single attack per weapon
Jack Myers
I hope he gets slammed with a C&D.
Michael Diaz
i'm gonna email konami support later
Hudson Reyes
This looks way more tedious to play than VP..
Brandon Nguyen
Okay? He is still making a better game than bloodstained that looks and plays better. You are literally the only person in existence who gets mad about the fact that he isn't a one man god who can literally make the entirity of the project on his own while sleeping in only a few hours. Because you seem to think IGA is somehow capable of doing that?
Oliver Brown
>guy tries to shill his patreon that violates copyrights and steals content >ends up pissing off everyone because he says that SotN, one of the greatest games of all time, sucked Good job, retard.
yeah well having you do a single attack you spam nonstop like a braindead idiot isn't good gameplay
Ayden Robinson
I have no idea if backers can access this, I'm not one but I've played several builds of this game at various conventions. And when comparing the alpha to the build they have now, which I assume is near completion. The earlier build was better. I mean, exceptionally. In the early build the map had only had pieced together components. Nothing fully rendered. Only thing finished was Miriam and the enemies. I think the best way to compare it is to the "Curse of the Moon" game they released which was also really good. The current build is so fucking dull. The enemies in the ship have nothing interesting to them. Maybe because it's the beginning of the game but those cannon enemies were a fucking disgrace. They didn't even attack me. I think once but I wasn't even in it's line of sight. I almost mistook them for a map assets because they did nothing. The boss was also a mess. I sat around dodging tentacles until I got bored because there was no clear indication of where to attack. I attacked the tentacles and nothing. The face did nothing. It was 10 minutes of this until I had enough and left the demo. And I finished "Curse of the Moon" twice over without this kind of problem.
Michael Roberts
did you actually like try reading my fucking post you degenerate braindead ape?
Isaac Allen
I wouldn't have a problem with him if he wasn't asking for money. But he is.
Eli Howard
So just like how IGA did the exact same thing but because you have a sexual affection to him somehow he is in the right and his game is somehow better even though it looks like complete dogshit?
William Wood
iga is also asking for money, for an inferior product, why aren't you angry with him?
Luke Ross
Please explain how it's objectively false. I said personally to imply I was being subjective in my judgement.
Samuel Lewis
>deflecting People have been mad with him for like four years. But we can shit on more than one person at once. And some scumbag stealing sprites and selling them is deplorable.
Thomas Ramirez
I hope this thread was made by the project creator so that he can only blame himself when his shit gets shut down because we reported it to patreon and Konami.
Sebastian Carter
>killing bosses during the intros isn't good gameplay, Oh shit, the game rewards the players knowledge on the game!? Nah that's shit gameplay obviously
>neither is outleveling all the shit in the game Do low level runs then. Leveling is for people who like RPG more than action. But nah that's also shit gameplay.
>having only a single attack per weapon Fuck even the regular Castlevania's have shit gameplay then.
Fuck off kid.
Isaac Cox
That was the weakest part of the backer beta as well. They haven't changed that tutorial area much since the alpha builds.
Austin Bailey
Iga isn't shilling his garbage here
Justin Gray
>"Skythe" aaaand uninstalled
Ian Myers
I feel bad for WayForward because they had to get associated with Bloodstained. Fuck all of you idiots who fell for the Iga meme marketing
Not really, iga deserves hate while this guy is actually making something worthwhile yes he is, there have been multiple bloodstained shill threwds and you are literally shilling for him which is way worse
Angel Wright
>while this guy is actually making something worthwhile But he isn't actually making it, just stealing stuff and gluing it together, then demanding money for it.
Jayden Gutierrez
You are actually the creator aren't you? You are actually trying to shill this shit. Fuck off.
Gavin Moore
I'm just shitting on the nigger who comes in saying WHAT'S POPPIN MI GENTE, Bloodstained can go fuck itself for all I care. >this guy you can stop pretending now
Jacob Ward
NINTENDO NEEDS TO HIRE! THIS! MAN!
Jack Williams
implying those weren't Night of Revenge shill threads
Christian Turner
Hope she sucks mine.
Evan Anderson
>I'm just shitting on the nigger who comes in saying WHAT'S POPPIN MI GENTE,
Nice, a racist
Grayson Thompson
gay and bad
Joshua Cox
>all those times NoR takes over the Bloodstained threads We need more yuri art between the two! They're both so soft, pale, and cute!
Leo Hill
It looks kinda shit but Curse of the Night was pretty dope, they should just make more games like it.
Julian James
The universe regards your subjectivity as inaccurate.
Owen Cruz
So he's making it way more than IGA is making bloodstained, okay. Never even heard of this mod before this thread, just putting bloodtards in their place
Jaxon Rodriguez
>Curse of the Night Bloodstained: Curse of the Ritual of the Night of Revenge
Bentley Barnes
I'm trying to fuckin' engage here and you're giving me bullshit.
Justin Howard
>Curse of the Ritual of the Night of Revenge Make a Curse of the Moon sequel named like that
Jason Young
>plays exactly the same as every other igavania Isn't that why people gave him money in the first place?
Josiah King
It look like shit.
Daniel Turner
The best crossover. It'll be HoD HD 2, but the girls can get fucked.
Jose Price
This, desu. I'd be glad to have more along the lines of it.
Camden Sanders
Why isn't this guy working on bloodstained? This looks amazing.
Ian Fisher
its his own code retard, and the sprites are drawn by someone else
Matthew Clark
>Never even heard of this mod before this thread Uh-huh.
The mod looks shite mate. Bet the creator, who's totally not in this thread, is a person who thinks that RE6 is a better game than RE1.
Brayden Gray
yeah bloodstained does look like shit
Julian Green
Modifying existing code isn't "his own code" and the sprites are stolen. Stop shilling your product. You're so bad at it that you're making people hate you even more!
Christopher Sullivan
>Bloodstained:RotN plays exactly the same as every other Castlevania wrong there's crafting in it for some reason
Both bloodstained and that fanmade game look like shit.
Kevin Murphy
are mugen sprites stolen too?
Charles Allen
I'd count the crafting in Bloodstained as an evolution from the Soul crafting in Dawn of Sorrow.
Adrian Bell
Literally tinfoilhat, dumb bloodtards So you are saying Konami made this mod? That no mor in existance is made by anyone? That IGA is making all the code and all the models and animations in bloodstained all by himself without anyone else being involved in the project?
You got shit taste mate. Go shill your shit elsewhere.
David Rivera
That games looks like pure fecal matter. Stop shilling your garbage.
Luis Adams
He IS the guy shilling the mod. His last post was a minute before that. He's called SotN shit multiple times. Why would anyone trust a "dev" that calls the original material "shit?" This is just like Tameem calling Dante a gay cowboy.
Mason Perry
except his own page he praises sotn, you'd know that if you weren't a shill for bloodstained
Luke Cooper
Why? If anything, SoTN combat should have been slower, heavier and more punishing.
Isaiah Jenkins
Can someone tell me why I even come to this shithole if everyone here is fucking autistic and retarded?
>entirely new combat system with chain combos and air combos like an action game This is one of the biggest reasons people hated Lords of Shadow. No one wants that shit in their Castlevania.
Eli Miller
Irrelevant. He's not doing it for free.
Adrian Morgan
The original was the one where his cape turns into wings no ?
I'm so glad there was a demo for that game. What a pile of shit. If you're going to try to add combos to a Metroidvania making them slow as fuck isn't the way to do it. Guacamelee was fast enough to make it work.
Kayden Brown
But it's 2D and it uses sprites So it's automatically good and full of soul
This looks like dog shit, the jumping weight looks like a flash game and the only thing that looks good is the 4 hit sword combo. DMC combos don't need to be Castlevania sorry.
Alexander Cox
Combos has nothing to do with why it's not good
Connor Smith
I meant the hack.
Lincoln Cruz
>new combat system with chain combos and air combos like an action game Finally a shitvania worth playing
The problem with Bloodstained isn't that it doesn't have cool action game combat with combos in it. Hollow Knight doesn't have that either yet people like that game. Why? Because of the level design and the way the game works with the combat it has. Giving bosses engaging attack patterns forcing you to use everything you have at disposal is what makes the game fun, not complex intricate combos. Giving the game a interesting world to explore that makes you think about how you want to advance and rewarding exploration is what makes these games good. We've yet to see Bloodstain's full release yet so we can't yet judge on how well it executes these concepts but so far it just looks fine. The graphics and animation could stand to be more professional looking but that isn't all a game has to offer either.
Sebastian White
it's made in unity, started in gamemaker Was sotn made in unity?
Andrew Lewis
Could you and your friends stop saying shit? You didn’t even gave money for any of both. I’m going to buy the new igavania and have a good time while you will stay here, forever and never playing videogames.
Leo Martin
>those awful fucking particle effects this looks like fucking garbage