Why are most Sonic Adventure 3 ideas are terrible?

Watch the video and you will find out yes.

I want sonic adventure, sonic adventure 2, sonic heroes, shadow the hedgehog, sonic riders, sonic unleashed, and sonic colors ported to nintendo switch.

Heroes was good.

SA2 was great you faggots. The Soinic and SHadow stages were fantastic, and the treasure and mech stages are mostly fine; then on top of that you had tons of replay value with the missions and chao garden, and the 10/10 soundtrack

I unironically have more fun with SA2 then with SM64, and i'm not even just talking about the speed stages.

I brought sonic generations(3ds), sonic and all stars racing transformed(wii u), sonic boom shattered crystal, sonic boom fire and ice, and sonic forces(switch). I enjoyed them all.

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Because the Adventure formula was heavily flawed and Iizuka is actually right for not wanting to go back to it. The only thing I'd want back from it is what little momentum physics they had going on for Sonic and that's pretty much it. Everything else is either superfluous or doesn't belong in a Sonic game.

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The reptile villain called lyric was only enjoyable on the 3ds version of sonic boom.

Because Sonic Adventure 3 already happened and it was as good as the first two.

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Nah, kid. SA1 has its problems, but SA2 is pure kino.

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>IDW characters in a game
>before Freedom Fighters

This is totally asking for trouble. This will only cause an enormous huge flaming and greater division on the Sonic fanbase.

Very, very, VERY bad idea. At least, consider the FFs, then you can go ahead with IDW characters.

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I dunno. It being a bad idea makes it seem more plausible.

What makes you say SoJ are willing to let IDW characters appear in Sonic games instead the FFs?

Based

All others are delusional

Pic VERY related, get cucked.

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Nah. For the most part, it still holds up. The only thing I hated about the game was the last boss in Sonic's story. The shitty parts of the controls rear their ugly head with the Egg Viper.

I didn't say it was possible, just that it's the kind of dumb decision Sega would make.

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>having this trash of taste

My sides, I didnt know people this delusional existed.

All sonic games are trash dumbass

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>everyone agrees sonic games are bad
>delusional fags SEETHE in defense
Nice delusion there bud

Because no one knows how to make a good Sonic game, not even SEGA. Even Mania was largely borrowed ideas put into different orders because coming up with new ideas can so easily fuck up a Sonic game it's not even funny. Just ask SEGA.

>My opinion is correct and no others can disagree.
Man, what a dork.

Imagine being so incompetent that you fucked up your own simple ass premise of "Mario but fast." I can pinpoint the moment the Sonic series went to Hell and never came back. You ready?
Marble Zone

>dork
In denial AND cringe. Wasn't shadow the hedgehog enough of a sign your favorite franchise has always been pure low effort excrement? With a guise if 90s nostalgia?

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Ah, one of many dumb decisions SEGA would make, you say. I get it now. Apologizes for my confusion.

Sadly, I agree with you.

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>Keeps referencing Forces through the video
Maybe he does...
Maybe he does.

SEGA didn't make Mania
And did you forget about the 4 new zones in that game? And no, people saying the desert level is "ripped assets" from that Sonic 2 beta level are wrong, because the beta desert level in Sonic 2 never was actually made, it was just a mock up in a magazine. All 4 new zones in Mania are made entirely from scratch, and are the best levels in the game. So eat shit, all non Sonic Team game devs are better at making Sonic games than Sonic Team themselves.

If the team is so much better than SEGA, why was half of the game copy paste and the rest just slight variations of the copy pastes? Mania is only as good as it is because it played shit safe and kept to the series' "greatest hits". Literally the video game equivalent of saying you love Metallica but only listening to your ten favorites into a playlist and never listening to anything else from them.

Just came here to give a reminder that Sonic Adventure 2 was so good, it got not one, but TWO best game ever spots. Unfortunatley, there was no classic games to be found. I wonder why...

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>If the team is so much better than SEGA, why was half of the game copy paste and the rest just slight variations of the copy pastes?
Because Sonic Team literally told them to do it? Because Taxman worked under them instead of above their approval? Or did you think the Phantom Ruby was Taxman's idea that Forces adapted? It was the other way around. SEGA forced old stages by Iizuka's orders, and so was the Phatom Ruby's inclusion, as the original Mania story was entirely different before hand, which was thought up by Taxman. Blame SEGA, not the Mania Team. They were handicapped by SEGA, like Ian Flynn is by SEGA for IDW Sonic, and so on.

>riders
>good

I actually agree with you, I'm just surprised I got a legit counterargument.

Just coming in here to say that I like both classic and dreamcast era sonic.

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Both are terrible lmfao enjoy getting cucked with subpar games

kek @ this zoomer

This is why I hope for Taxman's new studio; Evening Star, get the chance to make their own original Sonic game in the future. If Dimps could be allowed to do so 10+ years ago, so should Evening Star team.

Literally anything is better than boost, id rather play 06 or StH than any boost game.

Nice try, only zoomers can delude themselves into liking sonic s*nic. Better luck next time.

Well that and literally subhuman IQ autists

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Because the fandom is so split not even Sega is sure what you faggots want, aside from porn

Sorry you didn’t get to experience the 90’s, bro.

93, nice try

Sums up the whole fandom so well too, delusionally reminisces and denies the garbage quality of the originals, then convinces themselves people who dont "w-well he must've never experienced it.... b-back then that is! It's still good nowadays too h-haha shutupshutupshutup no it's still good!"

Everyone with an IQ above room temperature likes the classic Sonic games. They were beloved during the 90s and a cultural juggernaut. Mania Plus also received universal acclaim, that’s why it has a 90+ score on metacritic

>citing metacritic

Ooh yeah and celeste was a classic too (it wasnt) and sonic mania was honest terrible holy shit, I can not believe oli bought it, garbage, counter-intuitive level design that conflicts the sluggish, unresponsive controls, and then when he gain speed theres just a wall in the way because the game is set up like an inferior Mario game/metroid game hybrid. Pure garbage, and you know it. Stop kidding yourself. Its pathetic

You're literally arguing about nothing, dude.

Never underestimate the ability of denial and submission of the sonic fandom kids

I mean I get it, you dont like what I have to say, fine, but to say >you're arguing about nothing is not invalidation, it's just self-validation since you didnt like what someone had to say so you convinced yourself of something stupid and irrational

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>delusionally reminisces and denies the garbage quality of the originals
Name said "garbage"
No, spinoffs don't count. They never had. Meanwhile mainline games like 06, do count.

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1, 2, 3, adventure 1 ESPECIALLY adventure 2, and pretty much everything from that point forward except colors.

I have not played CD but I doubt it's good either

>the never had
Nice defensive reflex btw, I live how programmed you are for your beatdown, maybe next time just come to conclusions sonic was never good.

Sonic CD is good, better than Sonic 1 but worse than Sonic 2. The soundtrack, graphics, and aesthetics are amazing, especially when utilizing the time travel mechanic. The level design, however, is lacking compared to its sucessors. Also, fuck Wacky Workbench.

If it's not any better than 2 I doubt its worth my time because 2 sadly is the apex of sonic outside colors and a VERY generous 5/10 if you want to be a nostalgiafag about it. It's way closer to a 4 than a 6 but again that's being nice

Yeesh, I mean if you dislike Sonic 2 that much I dont think theres many Sonic games that can appeal to you.

Sonic 2 isn't very good.

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Sorry that I dont judge things with rose tinted glasses, again all 3 are still objectively bad, see

So 6 million gamers were wrong about Sonic 2 and 3K, eh? Kill yourself zoomer
You too, Arinigger

>objectively bad
Look I get that it's your opinion and that's fine, but dont act as if the other 99% of people who have played the classic sonic games would agree with you.

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That's because they don't want to make something new using familiar elements. They just want more of the same, using the same elements and tying up plot points more than making something fresh.

Just look at Sonic Adventure 2. It's a completely new closed story with its own start, middle and end.

They basically want to make a 3D Mania and/or import non-canon elements. More like Sonic Adventure 1.5+2.5 HD Final Mix & Knuckles instead of a new Sonic Adventure 3.

>appeal to popular opinion
Discarded

I was going to respond to you too, but look at this, how predictable. It's almost as if the sonic delusion is so concrete everyone who believes it has the same initial """"defenses""""

>I was going to respond to you too,
And you did... So what now? Did you want to make a comment or just give me (You)s?

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Read the reply above it dipshit

So you're jaded. Sorry for you, sad virgin.

Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 being the only good 3D sonic games, I'd hate to imagine how Nu-Sonic Team would fuck up with 3.

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Alright then, tell me what makes the classic titles "objectively bad", because your clearly wiser than just about everyone else that played the classics.

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>the sonic fan called someone virgin
Rich, and also wrong

I sourced a response with this in detail, you clearly cant read. here it is again little man

>sluggish, unresponsive controls
Just because you have the reaction time of a sloth doesnt mean the controls are bad. Yes, you risk getting hurt if you go fast and dont pay attention, but that's the point, speed is both a risk and reward.
>counter-intuitive level design
Seeing as classic Sonic levels have moved away from the MarbIe Zones of Sonic 1, this is absolutley false. Perhaps your frustrated that you cant hold right to win, so you conclude that the game is trash?

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Classic Sonic levels almost never punish you for going too fast anyway, any point where the game's slopes let you really boost to crazy velocities is very easy and almost always hazard free.

Because Adventure is trash.

Few people have the ability to bring SOUL