Remember when we used to laugh at how absurd these sjw female redesigns are?

Remember when we used to laugh at how absurd these sjw female redesigns are?

well, this is the current western gaming industry for you

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>sv*nska
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Only for the west.

don't you think it's a little contradictory to rally against developers for caving in to other people's agenda, while actively rallying against developers for not caving in to your agenda?

You don't need to actively rally for good looking women in videogames. because that is what every mentally healthy person would put in there.

so to go against your agenda is a symptom of mental illness? that seems a little loaded to me
i just think taking a stance that designs can only fit one paradigm is a little anti free speech and pro censorship, as it's not like sexy designs are gone from the market

>doing that to i-no
I hope the artist gets skin cancer

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>a female character can't be acceptable unless she's modestly dressed and not visually striking
How is this not an insidious form of sexism tho?

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No you don't get it. I don't want women in my games if they're not pleasing to look at. Men can be w/e though I don't care.

Fuck off, queer. I buy and play video games.

noone forced devs previously to make sexy designs, they did it because there is a demand for it, because there is value in sexual attractiveness. There is no "agenda" behind this, it comes naturally.

>i just think taking a stance that designs can only fit one paradigm is a little anti free speech and pro censorship, as it's not like sexy designs are gone from the market

user, it's literally the point of the movement to remove sexual female designs from games because they are deemed disrespectful towards women by absurd reasons
the only reason sexy designs still exist is because there are devs (mostly japanese ones) who don't agree with these views, but people following this trend already ceased to make sexual female designs

also noone says that nonsexual female designs shouldn't exist at all. It is exactly just them saying that sexual female designs shouldn't exist. They are the ones trying to remove a type of design completely, not the opposition.

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>my censorship is good
>being anti-censorship is an agenda
Go be a faggot somewhere else

>the point of the movement
What movement are you even talking about? What people are advocating for sexual censorship and succeeding?

Capcom is already heading in this direction. Fuck my life.

so who is forcing ed boon to make more conservative designs?
isn't the right more popular than the left at the moment?

>cuck language

uh-oh

The only thing I find absurd is that anyone here thinks sexual designs are going away because the occasional soft-core porn game got reigns put on them.

> I can't see this girl's vagina in this consolr game! Censorship! Such a violation must not be accepted!
> Meanwhile, SF5 looks like Senran Kagura for muscle girl fetishists.

You don't even know what censorship means, dude.

One thing that ive noticed about women is that they hate it when someone is more attractive than them. Why do you think their focus is to make every female character an ugly abomination? Men dont seem to care if there is a man more handsome than them, or at least they dont despise him. The most prominent characters are all handsome, good men.

Are you retarded or are you intentionally not thinking?

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> Men dont seem to care if there is a man more handsome than them, or at least they dont despise him.
It's funny to me that you think this, especially on this site.

The thing that I think is most insulting about this is that the attempts to de-sex the design basically boiled down to “find ways to cover the skin but change little else”, which acknowledges that the character design is actually good it’s just they’re offended by T&A.

>What people are advocating for sexual censorship and succeeding?
pretty much the whole western gaming industry

if you haven't noticed a pattern with pretty much ALL western female characters in recent years then you are blind.

it's more like ed boon is forcing the artists to censor the designs rather than someone forcing him. He already took this feminazi pill, he is already part of the people who are doing this sexual fiction shaming bullshit

don't you think harassing a developer for making "not censored" designs is censorship? but again, it's not like sexy designs are gone from the west, it's just this specific franchise that has moved in this direction, assuming because the studio internally wants to move in this direction (mk10, injustice both have little skin compared to prior entries, even though no one complained back then)

No, I'm pretty sure you're retarded and don't understand why censorship happens. Give me some examples where people complained about sexual designs and the company changed the game for them. I'm curious to see what you'll say.

>Capcom is already heading in this direction
Have you fucking seen SFV costumes? And don’t bring up muh RE Engine faces because Trish’s corset is actually smaller in 5 than it was before and Claire’s classic costume shows clevage when the original didn’t.

There is definitely some jealousy, as always, but men dont seem to be bothered by a male character with sex appeal.

or just maybe you a re a projecting faggot.

so boon isn't being censored, he's just moving his studio in a direction he agrees with
is boon not allowed to do what he likes?

they already have anal cancer from all the gay assfuck

>Men dont seem to care if there is a man more handsome than them, or at least they dont despise him
It’s 5:37 AM where I live and it’s too fucking early to see what will likely be the most retarded statement off the day.

>if you haven't noticed a pattern with pretty much ALL western female characters in recent years then you are blind.
Can you give me some examples of some companies being forced to change the sexual designs of their characters because of complaints?

this is a western mentality, not a Japanese one. The west already pretty much ceased making sexy designs, and while I can't see Japanese devs ever agreeing with these views, you can already see the west being more and more strict with censoring and pressuring Japanese devs to change up western releases.

I don’t follow. How is that projection?

Unfortunately it's important to still rally.
The ability to influence others is not one that should be given to idiots (who can influence developers/publishers) and marketers of publishers (who can influence idiots) since that creates a vicious circle of idiocy.
It is the job of the discerning customer to step in and stop the retardation and point out the obvious to both parties before they ruin the product they wanted to enjoy.

Feminism and these various movements are like an Ouroboros. Most of it is mutually exclusive because it is outrage culture.

Im not here to argue with you or cite facts. Im here to call you an ugly incel tranny niggerfaggot

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I just cant recall an instance where men started screeching about unrealistic beauty standards when presented with an image of masculine, well built man.
I think the more common reaction is "wow, he looks great. I wish i looked as good as he does!"

yeah, that's what I thought

isn't this entire thread being outraged against mk11's art direction also outrage culture though?

So you had to make it yourself?

the reality of current western games is even worse

>turns taki into a loli

FUCKIN PEDOSSSSSSSSS

not buying game = harassment?

The difference is that most male characters are not hyper-masculinized, while practically every prominent female character is hyper-feminized. I think a lot of women just want some variety in for their gender and not just skimpy models with big breasts.

No no no, you don't get it. Companies weren't forced to censor game by an outside force, they were infiltrated by mentally ill faggots who then themselves forced the changes from inside. Of course it doesn't sell more, but they don't care, they'll run it to the ground. See Blizzard.

>not buying game = harassment?
it's a form of boycotting assuming you would otherwise buy the game, mostly what i'm trying to figure out is how are you different from the person in OP's picture, outside of just being on the opposite side?

Except for Aida every female face model they made so far has been ugly

>long time gamers just play games.
>trannys, feminists and other degenerates decide to come in to the hobby and change and limit the art and other topics with political correctness.
>existing gamers get annoyed that these idiots who have no experience in the hobby feel the need to change something that has worked just fine before they came along.
False equivalency right here.

aren't you just using a no true scotsman fallacy?

Okay, so if the company does it because they want to, then there's nothing wrong with it. It's their freedom of speech to do so. Are you against the first amendment?

I don't though

If you're thinking of incels even they don't really hate "Chads", they hate women for liking Chads.

I don't see where you are trying to take this conversation

never claimed that the problem is some third parties, it's exactly the directors/producers themselves who started following these questionable as fuck ideologies and limit what they are allowed to put into a game, and even pressure/badtalk others who don't agree with how these things should be removed

That's why I said they were heading into it. SF isn't going to be touched since it's a skim cash cow but the RE Engine games are ugly as fuck and they'll only get uglier. Next thing they'll cover them up and you bitches would make excuses for them again.

so directors who follow an ideology different from yours should be forced to follow your ideology instead..?
isn't that just thought policing? it's kind of like you're telling them "how dare you believe otherwise"

News flash user. Men and women are different. Show me one man on the roster that isn't a hyper idealized muscle head.

Or look at a game like SFIV where the female characters are sexy but they obviously also have a lot of variety. Cammy and Mika are scantily clad and but sakura or Chun aren't yet everyone loves them still.

Yes, and it's our freedom of speech to say it's retarded and rally against it. Thanks for understanding.

see >even pressure/badtalk others who don't agree
Everyone is free to voice their opinion, it's the first amendment. That's exactly what you're doing now, you're badtalking companies that choose to censor sexual contents in their games.

But masculinity is centered around the concept of self sacrafice and bravery. Most male characters i can think of have balls of steel and are incredibly strong. The ideal male hero is very hyper-masculine, and men prefer it that way. Hell, Doom Guy is a favorite and he is as hyper masculine as it gets. Its just an average joe with the biggest balls in the universe that wants to kill demons because they killed his pet rabbit. The cover art for the original is incredibly iconic, prominently displaying his abs and giant arms.

Are people not allowed to be critical of decisions they disagree with? Why do you think there’s some hypocrisy of people being critical of a critic?

There're two factions within Feminism:

Sex "Positive": Who view any limits upon their own sexuality as evil.
Sex Negative: Who view anything heterosexual men find appealing as evil.

The Negatives know that the only real power women have in society is their holes. And as such, seek a return to older morality, BUT with all the privileges and none of the responsibilities of men.

The Positives don't give a fuck as long as no one is allowed to shame them for slinging their pussy all over town for a beer and a glance. Infact.

Both groups despise fictional women for being more attractive than they'll ever be.

That is a flaw with the face capture tech and not an intentional design decision.

Women are 52% of "us", afterall.

I used to respect women, but they only started sucking my dick when i stopped.

>Next thing they'll cover them up
Trish and Lady get fucking naked in DMC5. You’re just retarded.

I guess, technically puritanism is not sexism, and to an extent it tries to hide the distinction between sexes with modest clothing.

>capoeira practitioner is in harem pants
>succubus is underendowed and overdressed
>everyone else is downgraded to background NPC blandness due to the hyper-conditional restrictiveness of the artist's values
Irredeemable dog shit desu

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When was the last time you saw anyone complaining about a character being too good looking or that devs should cater to ugly fat men?
Last time i saw a man bothered over other men's looks it was fucking chris chan, an unapologetic low qi autist
Why when a bunch of blue haired women sperging over pretty girls is taken like such an social emergency is beyond me

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Mai looks better with that fan redesign I think

We live in an era where tens of thousands of sluts are flaunting their tits and asses for the world to see in skin tight dresses and bikinis and we are supposed to think that it is sexist to put vidya girls in anything but a massive dress, a tomboy outfit from the 80s, or a burkha.

Clown world, fuck it all.

people are allowed to be critical, however I don't think that (going off what I assume to be your posts) you necessarily just disagree, rather you feel like a company is being "forced" (or censored) to make choices by an imagined opposition -- ie, ed boon has no agency in wanting to change his art direction
but the occam's razor is just maybe ed boon, and the art team at netherrealms, just wants to do something different
i can understand not liking the art direction, but i can't understand not liking the art direction so passionately that you would want to be politically outraged over it

Morrigan looks great with the dress. The rest is pretty bad though.

what you still don't see is that they are the ones trying to remove/limit/cover up something, not the opposition

while I can agree that clearly manipulative material shouldn't be presented in media, and that a certain age rating should exist for mature content, these people have no real arguments of why you should limit fictionally sexual depiction of women in gaming, because every argument they bring up just reek of hypocriticism and just pure missing details

This whole ideology is just fueled people desperately wanting to act/feel like they are doing something for the good cause

7/8 of those are worse yes, but taki looks better like that

Without that stupid ass drawing style they drew her in

>not hyper-masculinized
Nice bait

>things that never happened

Yeah? I never said you weren't allowed to say stupid shit.

I'm not talking about one game, I'm talking about gaming in general.

Sorry, I was talking about physical appearance. Usually when women complain about hyper-feminized characters they're not talking about personality traits.

Fuck off retards lmao

Agreed.

>The difference is that most male characters are not hyper-masculinized,
let's see some not hyper-masculinized fighting game men

you were so close

WHAT IS THAT
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
WHAT IS THAT PRIVATE PYLE

And those are hardly official designs. It's just something pulled from a literal who's tumblr

>Flaw with facial capture tech
>When Nioh managed to do facial capturing without looking ugly.
Capcom is way bigger than Team Ninja and the fact they don't care about how bad the characters look should tell you something.

>posting bait images in a thread about sjw redesigns
the worst/best part is, people will believe it

Don't tell me you were actually serious about that, and not baiting.

>a demonic seducer on men in an uninviting, sleeveless, cleaveless morticia addams dress
>great
I disagree.

> the occam's razor is just maybe ed boon, and the art team at netherrealms, just wants to do something different

no user, it's fucking not. This is not some "paranoia" or conspiracy theory, the devs are completely open about this.

>but you still shouldn't complain about this, this is just their opinion
this is the shaming of people who appreciate the sexual depiction of females, claiming how they disrespect women because they enjoy some heavy fiction

this heavy pressuring. This mentality has been spreading in the western gaming industry and everything started to go down on a slippery slope. Don't be surprised that some people complain about this crap.

as for the pic, the guys just meant to show the hypocriticism in his post, they are not meant to show how showing underclothed men is bad

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And, where, pray tell is the lie?

but how can you verify anything in your last sentence? why could it not just be boon wanting to have a more conservative design?
and again, how is your position not trying to limit how many clothes may be put on a female design or limit how unattractive they're allowed to be?
to take your stance to a logical extreme: fictional women are only acceptable in as few clothes as possible and as attractive as possible
whereas my stance is that i don't care how attractive/ugly covered/skimpy a fictional female is

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>drooling perma Yea Forumsirgins enraging because some fictional characters don't make their peepees hard instantly anymore, unable to do anything without a death grip on their dicks
That's pretty sad 2 b h

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stop shiling NRS user

the devs literally claimed how they changed up female designs because they find it "disrespectful" towards women and "immature" and one of them even went out to say that they want no respect from those who want sexy female designs in the game

this has nothing to do with a shift in artstyle, this is literally just censoring the women to cover up their sexual features

>absolute bloatlord
>not hypermasculinized
twink spotted

Rolled 6 (1d6)

if 5 you fuck off from Yea Forums forever

but the image you linked has nothing to do with the design team being forced to do that, or does that image disagree with netherrealms just wanting to do something with it? couldn't the team just think a DOA-esque art direction isn't appropriate for what they were trying to convey?
i'd be curious if you have a source for netherrealms changing their designs due to political backlash at mk9's sexy designs (mk10 and all injustice games started covering up, mileena wore pants in mk10 for example)

Have any of these fighting game SJWs seen how women dress in the UFC

>when I think of a man of pure masculinity, I think of someone ugly and fat!

>SJWs
they're not real, so no

I don't think that's really true. Look at the controversy regarding the new female character in Samurai Shodown. The other females even in the game are pretty modestly dressed, but then because the new one is showing a lot of skin there was an immediate backlash.

user they probably watch a lot of anime porn where every guy is ugly and fat for no reason

how does the developers believing a scanty art style is "disrespectful" and "immature" (can i get source by the way?) is indicative of censorship, and not just the team making the videogame's art style disagreeing with your ideology?

Is Felicia being dressed like a middle-age crazy cat lady intentional?

Women don't like other virtual women being sexier than them so they make them ugly

you are full of shit

this feminist group doesn't want "variety", they want sexual designs out, completely. They are open about this, they claim how these designs are disrespectful towards women, because of some assbackwards arguments.

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>I think a lot of women just want some variety in for their gender and not just skimpy models with big breasts
this desu
add literally one skimpy chestlet and one armoured lady and i'd be happy with any other bullshit they put in💚

i don't think anyone would disagree that not everyone likes every design
but don't you think it's somewhat paranoid to think that, any design that disagrees with your tastes, is because "the other side" forced someone to do it?

you'd be surprised

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Imagine not wanting an absolute unit of a guy to sit on your dick.
user thats fat shaming

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most of the games in the image that started this thread have a variety though

user, they literally said why they are removing sexual female designs

why are you trying to damage control this at this point?

if you agree with them and think sexual depiction of females is wrong then just say that, maybe we can have a productive argument or something, but there is no point in you pretending how they just wanted to change up the art style for variety's sake when the devs literally stated that they are toning down the sexualization of the females because they find it "disrespectful and immature".

there's nothing wrong with that. There's also nothing wrong with some people not agreeing with their choice.

no i wouldn't, i'm entirely unsurprised that it didn't happen

sorry i thought i was in an MK11 thread

>reaching this hard instead of just admitting defeat
trannies were a mistake

i'm not trying to damage control, i'm just not trying to buy a narrative that an user tells me with no source, EVEN if he says 'literally'
i just think it's very silly to be outraged over an art style that doesn't cater to you, and assume the only way it could have come into existence is due to internal censorship.
it sounds much more reasonable to me that not all art directions will agree with the tastes of all audiences; it sounds very unreasonable to me that any taste i disagree with is due to censorship and that any art direction should never be allowed to change (unless it's to my taste)

>When was the last time you saw anyone complaining about a character being too good looking or that devs should cater to ugly fat men?
And here is your error. Men don't react to Men being handsome, though Western folk aren't fond of beautiful men. They react to men _EXISTING_.

Can you imagine what would happen if Senran Kagura had multiple recurring male characters front and center? What if Idolm@ster had visible males that weren't the producer? What if there were Ship-dudes to compliment Ship-girls? Male Friends? Etc.

You have to be willfully blind to think men don't get jealous.

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Oh wow, backlash on a few forum posts? You're taking the thoughts of a few randos on some forum and acting like all feminists share this same opinion? There really wasn't much backlash at all revolving this character, you guys are reaching pretty hard.

Never said there was. We were originally talking about how that user thought companies were making these changes in designs because they were being forced to by complainers when that wasn't the case.

>Can you imagine what would happen if Senran Kagura had multiple recurring male characters front and center? What if Idolm@ster had visible males that weren't the producer? What if there were Ship-dudes to compliment Ship-girls? Male Friends? Etc.
Sounds interesting.
>You have to be willfully blind to think men don't get jealous.
I would say no shit sherlock. but if you're talking about 2D girls then there was the case in grandblue game where the had a colab with that school idol anime and if you picked a male character you would switch to a girl character.

wan't it just the male character wearing a mask of the femc? or was that fan art

>initially conceived as an African vampire girl who could shapeshift into a jaguar
>final design was a sexy catgirl who was raised in an American convent
>redesign is a wino aunt going to a masquerade party
It's the most logical progression, user.

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here is your source
comicbook.com/gaming/2019/03/28/mortal-kombat-11-characters-female/

>i just think it's very silly to be outraged over an art style that doesn't cater to you
it's not one artstyle user
this is a fucking mentality spreading through the whole western game development, and devs are open about this, like how the fucking source also shows.

They started believing that what Anita Sarkeesian preached about is true, that sexual depiction of women in fiction is wrong, disrespectful, and shouldn't exist. This is not just "one artstyle I don't like", this is also not just "some specific designs", this is a mentality that affects every artstyle and every design in the west, a mentality that the whole circlejerking western developer community is starting to gobble up just to get brownie points for pretending they are "fighting for some good cause", when really they are just needlessly censoring their own works.

Dunno dude, if we are going to talk examples, beowulf and bigband exist in the skullgirls, and i'm yet to see anyone that is seriously concerned for those dudes being in a game about girls.
So ship-chads and kpop idols would probably be considered okay?

Felicia in a habit is cuter than her normal design

I think it was a mask if I remember

i agree

Not him, but that's something I love about her. She's the perfect fusion of sexy and cute normally. So, clothed she retains the cute factor.

>"Our character lead, Brendan George, has been a breath of fresh air of just introducing new ideas,” said Beran. “Our design is just getting more mature and respectful. You’re not going to wear a bikini to a fight. You’re not going to be showing so much skin. I think it’s just what the game is about: You’re going in to fight for your life, and you’re not going to be wearing such scantily clad items."
>“I’m sure that will disappoint some fans," said Beran. "We don’t have bathing suit fighters, and I think that’s fine. If people are disappointed, I don’t regret making that change by any means.”
so how are either of these indicative of censorship at the hands of an unseen oppressor, and not just the art team wanting to do something that you personally will be disappointed by?
it just seems to me that if you sweep away every art design you disagree with as a product of "an infected mentality" you're painting yourself into a corner where everything that isn't to your liking is at the hands of an oppressor, instead of just not everything being to your taste.
a reasonable take would just be not everything will be to my liking

>that sexual depiction of women in fiction is wrong, disrespectful, and shouldn't exist
Yeah, I don't know how you're coming to this conclusion based on that article. It sounds like the values of that company are changing and they're trying to reflect that in their games. I don't see where they advocate that the sexual depiction of women should never be allowed to exist in anything. You're stretching incredibly hard, my dude.

Fair point, but games like Senran Kagura are made purely for fap material and fan service. If there was a prominent male love interest for Ikaruga, it would be a turn off for me because now the crushing reality of romantic competition in real life comes crashing in... and now the point of the game is kinda ruined.

I love that they dont fucking dare touch Chun-li. Any person who does not know the significance Chun-li made for females in vidya is underage as fuck. Chun-li is THE reason girls can be tough in video games today.

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What a loser lol

>There really wasn't much backlash at all revolving this character
the point is that there should have been absolutely zero backlash. Also, if the western target audience of this games wasn't some niché weeb click then the backlash for this design would have been much greater. These arguments are exactly what western devs themselves use to defend the desexualization they do.

fucking noone in samurai shodown even has proper armor on them, these people still went out of their way to shittalk this design for it purely because it's a female design

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>it's not like sexy designs are gone from the game market
except they are, lmao
>inb4 'muh white male patriarchy'
I'm a DFAB, you tumblrette, and if I wanted to play as an ugly cow, I'd go outside and do it myself.

just off the top of my head: tracer from overwatch, pretty much every skin from HoTs, shantae, subverse -- it's not a comprehensive list by any means, but even just one example disproves that "sexy games are gone from the game market (in the west)"

I respect them about as much as they respect themselves. One look at instagram and you'll find most women only need around a dogs level of respect.

>posting pictures means you don't respect yourself
found the ugly

Samus predates Chun-li.
Not that I don't like both either way: Cool, tough, and confident vidya females are my thing, and have been my thing since I was a kid. I always found something really cool and impressive about women like Makoto Kusanagi, Gally/Alita, and others of that sort, and it bleed over in to games too. I liked playing girls because the concept of a super cool and capable Woman was just awesome.

Frankly, my complaint about things today is that no one seems to be able to replicate those cool and impressive females of then, and when they try it gets muddied up in propaganda, fetishism, or they're just flat out portrayed as crass. A character like Chun-li would be impossible to create in this day and age, Samus much more so.

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What year was overwatch released? 2016, three years ago. Shantae? She's an indie, wayforward is not a AAA dev (and her last game is a few years old anyway) Try finding one from this year.

>Yeah, I don't know how you're coming to this conclusion based on that article. It sounds like the values of that company are changing and they're trying to reflect that in their games. I don't see where they advocate that the sexual depiction of women should never be allowed to exist in anything.
FFS user, they literally stated how they find this shit disrespectful and immature

sure, they also brrough up some bullshit reason that "it's only for realism, characters wouldn't show skin in a battle" but it's clear that they don't give a fuck about that when the game is still full of half naked male characters. They know this, you know this, don't be a retard to not realize that this is just a bullshit excuse, and it isn't really about desexualization.

>t sounds like the values of that company are changing
yeah, these "different values" are exactly the problem I'm talking about. It's exactly the thing I don't agree with, these values based on fucking Anita Sarkeesian's ideologies.

>censorship at the hands of an unseen oppressor
literally said that it's a case of a stupid mentality spreading through, not some allmighty third party coproration censoring others. But you even admit this shit in your next sentence, you know exactly what I'm talking about so stop moving goalpost.

>this mentality doesn't exist
They literally fucking said that they agree with it user, that they think this shit is disrespectful and immature.
I posted it, you said "b-but you don't have source", I posted the source, then now you pretend like if they didn't say this.

anyway, I'm out. You took way too much of my time with this bullshit already
you don't even give a fuck about this topic, you are just some fucking NRS shills protecting mk11 for the game's launch

You go on Yea Forums dude. You should know there are always going to be people that complain about stupid shit. You can't make a universally liked design.

>if the western target audience of this games wasn't some niché weeb click then the backlash for this design would have been much greater
And that's fine? You're free to express your dislike of something. You don't have to just shut up and take it like a bitch.

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>they stop at pictures
Guessing you haven't seen the twerking thots? can't remember that sluts name, was assnasty or something. They deserve fukol respect becayse they're just pump and dump kinda girls.

Directors should be forced to maintain the status quo for existing IPs. They can do their tranny tumblr shit with their own OC.

>the ugly is an expert on pump
im surprised

today I will remind them

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i mean i quoted the source
i don't think the team saying "our design is just getting more mature and respectful ... (it's unrealistic to wear a bikini to a fight) ... i'm sure that will disappoint some fans" is indicative of anything other than a change of values
are people not allowed to have values different than yours?

who are the pedos up the top?

Do it with your OC, not my existing IPs.

She looks like a bootleg Chun-Li

Christ, user, read my fucking post. I said they never said sexual depiction of women shouldn't be allowed to exist. That's the important part. Finding it disrespectful and immature is fine, it's their personal opinion, but telling others they're not allowed to do it violates free speech. It sounds like you just don't like that they have different values from you and you're whining about it. Grow the fuck up.

Hang on let me smear shit all over your walls and call it art. Don't try to stop me either, that would violate my right to free speech.

granblue fantasy and FGO are pretty popular examples similar to shipgirls and they have a good balance of men and women

noone would have a problem with some people expressing their dislike for some sexual female designs if this shit wasn't seriously so fucking threatening these days.
This shit is not paranoia, there are pretty much zero new sexual female designs in western games anymore because of this shaming culture and the west is putting more and more pressure on Japan too.

Its funny how the artist seems completely unaware of the interaction between characterization and design choices.

I-no is supposed to be rebellious and unrestrained, and all sex, drugs and rock and roll. She fits with her surroundings of characters inspired by musical genres and acts.

Similarly Poison has that 80s sort of rock / punk thing going on which, again, fits with the other enemies of Streets of Rage. Shes's not some square, she'll dress as sexy as she wants because fuck the man and she has nothing to fear since she could kick your teeth in.

Morgan is a literal lust demon meant to tempt men into their doom, to cover her up is to miss the point entirely or be too much of a puritan to even entertain the idea of sexuality.

Felicia is a twist on the traditional idea of a monster that is meant to bridge the gap between good and evil. She is a nun, she wants to be a famous singer, she is beautiful, but she is also a monster that some would automatically brand as evil. She is innocent and somewhat animalistic.

Elena is a tribeswoman and a fighter, and as such she is dressed in a way that is evocative of both.

Cammy is a British commando woman, so she is an efficient soldier who refined and graceful. Thus she fights in a ballerina's leotard with military accessories.

Taki is a magical ninja demon hunter so form fitting clothes like Ryu Hayabusa (despite being from another series) make sense. Though notice how this redesign not only gives her a stereo typical pop culture costume but also removes her curves.

Mai is all about sex appeal and charisma. She is supposed to epitomize "Women want to be her, and Men want to be with her". She is amazing at whatever she does, be it fighting or cooking, and she looks amazing doing it.

The person who did this cares nothing of the characters or their setting, only of their own puritanical flagellating. The art is as disgusting as the idea that self delusional mental gymnastics needed for it are catching on.

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Men don't respect themselves either, so why should women respect them? When a man tells about his dick or masturbation on a public forum he's not any different from a twerking instagram thot.

poetry

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To add on to the Felicia comment, nudity has often used to represent two different ideas:
>Vulnerability
>Innocence
Given she is still "modest" thanks to her fur, I would venture that her lack of attire is meant to emphasize her innocence.

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Is it really impossible for you to believe that people are toning down on the sexuality because they're growing out of it rather than because they are being shamed to do so? It's funny that it bothers you so much, because I bet other people were bothered in the same way when it was reversed a couple decades ago.

Not surprised you have a /pol/tard's understanding of what free speech actually is :)

It is. It sort of play off of a number of things, those being lycanthropes, animals, young children, and cherubs. None of the previously mentioned things are expected to be naturally clothed, nor are they expected to be faulted for their nudity, nor is their nudity expected to incite ire for immodesty.

to cleanse the west
would be the best

>he thinks I care about womens respect
kek you probably care whether the women got off yea?

Thank you for critiquing these random tumblr designs.

>it's just a change of values
how does that contradict anything he said?
their different values come exactly from their new ideologies he doesn't agree with
>are people not allowed to have values different than yours?
people are allowed to criticize other's values, and that's what he has been doing

>drit
that's norwegian you fucking incel

>most male characters are not hyper-masculinized
According to women, that is. Which goes to show just how bullshit and nonsensical this argument is from the get-go.

>I think a lot of women just want some variety in for their gender and not just skimpy models with big breasts.
Then why the incessant demand that ALL women should be fully-clothed? Doesn't that go against the so-called preaching of variety?

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beowulf and band are 2 of the more popular characters at that

See here's the thing. If I smear shit all over my own walls, no one will care. Its only when I try to smear shit all over your wall that becomes a problem.

These tumblr fags aren't creating art, they're changing existing art. That's why people have problems with them. They're taking an existing franchise that people care about and ruining it with shit the fanbase doesn't want. Build your own treehouse, don't smear shit on mine and then cry muh free speech when you get called out for your shit.

Purity has nothing to do with secondaries coming in and demanding you cater to them when they dont play or buy the content in the first place.
You cant apply a fallacy to subject it holds no ties to in the first place. You would have a stronger claim if the parties were debating true gamer vs fake gamer. Whats being debated is leeches invading and claiming they were always here but "silenced" and as thus should be listened to now with the internet being as instant and sensational as it is.

Those aren't redesigns, those are lolis!

>According to women, that is.
According to everyone. This is not even subjective, you can just look at games today.

>Then why the incessant demand that ALL women should be fully-clothed?
This literally does not happen, and if it does, it's from some literal who's on twitter, fuck off.

So you think we should be able to regulate what fan art gets produced and censor the bad stuff? Sounds like you're against the first amendment, bro. I thought you were anti-censorship?

> they're growing out of it
please explain it to me how would games, targeted at the same age rating would suddenly "grow out of " something, and how would this affect every game in the WHOLE western industry instead of just specific games?

also, you still claim that there is no shaming after even the MK devs claimed that doing this shit it is immature, disrespectful, and that they want no respect form people who want designs like this?

>toning down on the sexuality because they're growing out of it rather than because they are being shamed to do so?
Online outrage is more pervasive than it has any right to be. I don't doubt some are just naturally growing out of it, but there are definitely also people towing the line just to not get shit on or lose jobs, and I find that annoying because that group gets round up with the former to just make it look like more people are sick of it than there really could be.

holy fuck im drunk, I meant to quote
>456991706

Oh this fan art. I was arguing under the premise that this was official. I don't really care then.

You obviously do care since you brought up the subject and demand better treatment for yourself.

Hmm, idk, user, maybe because over time, the values of our society change, and kids from one generation may hold different views than the kids from another. Maybe the reason the western industry is shifting is because western values are shifting as well? And fuck off, not every game is getting affected, you can still find sexy women in games that niche is still there.

>also, you still claim that there is no shaming after even the MK devs claimed that doing this shit it is immature, disrespectful
No, you said you think all these companies are toning down on the sexual depiction of women because they are being shamed into doing so, when in reality, most of these companies are doing it because they either agree with it or they want to pander to their audience.

>This literally does not happen, and if it does, it's from some literal who's on twitter, fuck off.
so why did suddenly ALL female MK girls got completely covered up, skins and curves alike, with no zero exceptions left?
I was really waiting that they might leave just one character in their sexy old designs, but they left none, I was genuinely surprised how far they went pushing this ideology.
You claim this is for variety, but these people are also open about saying how they despise sexual female designs in general, and want them out completely, there is no "variety" in this.

but hell, can you name even name just a SINGLE western game coming out in the last 2 years that had a sexual female character design?
You claim there is variety, but there is fucking none.

>that niche is still there
And slowly getting shouted down

Makes sense. This is the intended audience .

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We all know MKs problem now is that all the artists and division directors at NRS are just too retarded to design a sexy costume that's functional and fits the themes. It's much easier to do faux-capeshit and pretend you're being progressive by putting most of the girls in frumpy pajamas because they're that strong and independent. The WB shit is the best-worst thing to ever happen to NRS because it lets them be as lazy as they want to be and hire whoever they feel like that has no interest is anything beyond stroking their ego. They stand to lose nothing by a game flopping, because WB will foot the bill unless they keep flopping.

Actually I am a liberal and fully support artists to make whatever the fuck they want within the confines of the law.

However in today's climate of constant outrage and social media bullying artists are being silenced into submission by a small fanatical fringe based in America.

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>Swedish
WHY AM I NOT SURPRISED

>it's just different values
and some people don't agree with these values user, and they can criticize it that's the whole fucking point. Why is it so hard for you to realize this

i could agree with taking out sexual depictions from games if it was actually proven to be manipulative people and invoke disrespect towards certain groups, I'm not some "fuck minorities" gaymer, but there is none of that harmful shit actually existing or being proven here. It's just a bunch of "it sounds logical enough to me" theories on the same level as "violent video games cause violence". This shit should not be supported, it is just plain needless censorship pressuring.

>people are not doing this because of pressure, they just agree with it
people agree with it exactly because of how shameful it feels to oppose these ideas. You are deemed as some misogynist, when you could be deemed as someone fighting for the right cause, which one will you pick?

Make that good looking characters.

bullshit. NRS would be full of competent artists if they weren't forced to just slap generic head-to-toe plastic costumes on the girls.

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>we aren't going to take away your games nerds

Amusingly I actually believed it. I thought SJWs would leave me alone. Live and let live. How wrong I was...

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Those all look objectively better.

Justin Murray is a contract artist and his ideas were predev. Once dev started they took his art, gave it to another guy, and they made the dumb shit we ended up getting instead. He isn't an NRS onsite guy, just the dude they call up and pay upfront to throw designs their way that the can co-opt into shittier "workable" designs after consulting the 3d-team on everything.

When they're infiltrating and consolidating power, you're paranoid.
When they're setting up the rules to be abused, they're just making things more fair and reasonable.
When they're destroying you, you deserve it.

It'll only get shut down if there isn't a market for it anymore.

>so why did suddenly ALL female MK girls got completely covered up, skins and curves alike
They said why, they hold different values than they did back then and they feel like its immature to sexualize their characters.

>You claim this is for variety
I never claimed MK11 did it for variety, they explicitly say why they did it.

Still waiting on an answer to this buddy :)

I'm not saying you can't criticize it you brainlet. You're the one who thinks companies shouldn't be allowed to tone down the sexual content of their characters.

>When they're infiltrating and consolidating power, you're paranoid.
>When they're setting up the rules to be abused, they're just making things more fair and reasonable.
>When they're destroying you, you deserve it.

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It only is contradictory if you think this is a moral argument.

Its not, its an argument of one interrest versus another.
Thus i give money to whoever produces the content i want, and i do not buy from people who produce content i dont want.

and i will also beat the drum about it.
This is not about claiming that my taste is somehow moral superior.
This is claiming that their taste is shit taste and im not gonna pay money for it.

>especially on this site
This is how I know you have never been to /fit/.

two factions? that just two different arguments from he same person at different times, user.

>sweden
every time

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>not hyper-masculinized
Ah yes, the old Barbie is an impossible standard while He-man is fine.

Or if enough people raise a big enough stink and a person/group/company doesn't want to go through the shit just to keep their niche happy, so they act like good little boys. This is of course not always the case, but one that shouldn't just be thrown out like it never happens.

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I want poison to cuff me and whip my dick while I have to eat her ass and blow her.

>I think a lot of women just want some variety in for their gender and not just skimpy models with big breasts.
You think women are making modestly dressed and homely proportioned women in the Sims?
No, they make cute and attractive characters. I don't know who these loud money retards are who call for more ""respectable"" female designs but it isn't the majority.
Or, at least it wasn't the majority. I don't even fucking know these days.

its not NRS damage control its just neogaf faggots that have been shitting up Yea Forums since 2015.

This would be if the market existed in a bubble.
it doesnt.
If theres people shouting at the Developers what people want, developer assume that this is what the target demographic wants.
Thats how stuff like Anthem happens.

Thats why it is important for a consumer to tell the developer what hes interrested in.
Video games take a long time to make and have a high financial risk involved.
You cannot simply wait for all the crap games to fail for developers to make new ones that dont suck.

The reason why they create the things they create is because other actors are voicing their opinions.

And if all of these thigns fail, the only result will be more developers who actually have potential going tits up.

>its just a conspiracy bro
Did you learn nothing from gamergate?

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only when everyone is censored will everyone be liberated.

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>goober grapes
but user
dont you know you cant mention the G word here, it was all a nothingburger and all the evil undesireables emigrated to the other chan.

man this would be funnier if it was less real

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This is the primary concern, SJW's and their hypocrisy are so blatant it just hurts to see in action.

They used to have valid points, but now it's just one lie after another to validate their lust for power.

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>They used to have valid points
The fuck, they never had any valid points. They were always asshats trying to virtue signal. You a zoomer?

Purposefully putting ugly women in games media is the same level of retarded as the "fat acceptance" movement.

Sorry. Fat bitches are the worst. Not only are you ugly, but you also have a shitty personality.

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No, back in the days of the bald space marine I actually agreed that it was pretty fucking old that it was in every box cover art.
Although, I didn't want it to turn into this hyper censorship marathon that destroys anything people find naturally appealing.

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Recently the Apex Legends creator was disappointed there not much porn of it compared to Overwatch.

vote with your money

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this was written in 1995

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Trying reading my post one more time before posting something else stupid.

Not sure why you're bringing up Sims when we're talking about established characters in videogames, but regardless, I can guarantee you that most women don't make skimpy models with huge breasts as all their characters in the Sims. I don't know why you seem to think that you can't make cute/attractive characters that aren't skimpy, tall, models with big boobs.

There are definitely companies that prioritize money and change their game to whatever they think will sell and appeal to most. But there will always be smaller companies that prioritize their vision more than profit and will choose to make games that align more with their interests and views than others.

This guy gets it.

And, if you look at this picture...
You understand why societies always collapse eventually.

quality post.
Yea Forums and /tg/ as of late have a lot of counter circlejerking.
I get it, hating SJWs is mainstream now, and Yea Forums hates everything mainstream just like it hates good games.
But as of late, the counter circlejerk and trying to stick it to /pol/ has essentialy became indistinguishable from genuine journo level talking points.
Usually its followed by an entire flood of half ironic posts shitting on people that disagree.
The hivemind does what it always did and shitting on the popular thing has always happened. But this issue isnt going away.

And when i see /tg/ defending the awfull direction MTG is going into, when i see people on Yea Forums unironically saying "its not a big deal why do you care about fapbait" on Yea Forums , completley ignoring that its a matter of principle and not giving fucking tards an inch, it gets my blood pressure up.

i suppose people conflate SJWs with leftists.
one of the best tactics SJWs have is claiming the vicotriees of legitimate movements as their own.

It isn't about numbers, its all about being the loudest voice. Remember when Sony caved to pressure regarding Little Big Planet? They removed the vocals from the song Tapha Niang
youtube.com/watch?v=TbREcsnz-lg
because some american muslim retards complained that the song containing a Quranic reference was offensive to Muslims. Sony's hurried attempt correct the supposed mistake, because these troglodytes were inundating them with demands to remove it, actually had a measurable effect on the release timeline. Once Sony changed all their stock of the game and were ready to ship they issued a statement about the revision and included a formal apology over the inclusion of the song. The knuckle draggers patted themselves on the back and had a jolly little circle jerk about being heroes that stopped Muslims like themselves from maybe being offended. However it was at this time prominent Muslim groups globally (even in America) denounced the move and the people behind it as being overly sensitive and squandering a wonderful opportunity to share a beautiful part of Muslim culture with the world.

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>stop using japan as a distraction from domestic british sexcrime

lmao, japs are fucking based

also when is BBC going to make a documentary about the shitskin grooming and rape gangs? why not interview one of those dudes and tell him to stop?

What were they expecting? Like... being completely honest. Are they any "attractive" females in that game at all?

we need to censor people to promote freedom

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See my previous post
It doesnt realy work that way.
Heres how it works
Devs:
>Heres our game
Journos:
>You need to put in more diversity!
Boardroom Boomers
>Millenial journos tell us that they want diversty, we need to broaden our market!
Devs
>make shitty game because they are told to
Consumers
>well vote with our wallet and not buy this shitty game
thus the game fails
Boardroom Boomers
>Why did the game fail even tho we appealed to the market?
Journos
>You didnt make it diverse ENAUGH

et cetera. This will continue till the Studio in question is dead.
See Bioware recently.
If they dont know WHY something doesnt sell, they are easy targets

Because that would be wrong to the (((people))) who run the BBC.
After all, their plan is to replace the Britans with those dudes.

>when is BBC going to make a documentary about the shitskin grooming and rape gangs?
when the BBC stops hiding the Islamic child molesters.

Just last week in France the police tried to hide a viral video of some Muslims hitting on a 5 year old girl at a playground.

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Those people get shamed by everybody for existing on the wrong side of history and their means of revenue taken away. People aren't reasonable, and they don't just leave things they don't like alone.

You are braindead if you think the reason Battleborn and Lawbreakers failed was because they had ugly girls and not because they were absolute garbage games. Apex Legends is one of the most popular games right now and it has shit girls too.

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Remember, sex games are terrible! We need to censor them all!

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>No, back in the days of the bald space marine I actually agreed that it was pretty fucking old that it was in every box cover art.
Those aren't valid points those. Why get triggered over a bald space marine?
>one of the best tactics SJWs have is claiming the vicotriees of legitimate movements as their own.
Makes sense, kind of how Feminists also claim they fought for women's rights but it was all suffragettes that did that back in the 1800s. Feminism didn't really start until the early 1970s

They thought gamurs are just horny incels and not the fact that Overwatch actually has attractive characters.

>Those people get shamed by everybody for existing on the wrong side of history and their means of revenue taken away.
What the fuck are you even talking about anymore? Can you give me a case where a developer got his revenue taken away because his game had sexual depictions of women?

...unless they pander to my heterophobic world view!

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Artists are forced to make this, because the people paying them have either been indoctrinated by Communists in Universities or are just plain crazy.

lets channel our inner /pol/ for a bit on that bottom slide.
(((Ruberg)))

If anyone ever tries to downplay the significance of SJWs telling game devs what to do, just remind them the fucking president of Sony said SJWs are a significant problem.

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>free speech is bad because it leads to censorship which is also bad, so we need censorship which is good to protect free speech which is also good

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Another /pol/tard that doesn't know what censorship means.

lol

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>women
>not making slutty avatars
you sure havent played MMOs, but thats not the point, theres plenty of women.
And on a side note: even those women that dress up their avatars in respectable clothing, will still give them beautifull facial features, because this appeals to most people. Even people that self insert tend to self insert into idealized forms of themselves

But realy:The important thing here is choice.

And wheny ou look at Mortal Kombat, they deliberatley said they WONT give you that choice.
which is obvious, for the Cultural Censor will never allow what he doesnt like to mereley coexist with his vision. Whatever is not part of that vision needs to be removed, because it is vile.

>because that is what every mentally healthy person would put in there.
I'm sure the other side also considers themselves the mentally unhealthy ones and you to be the perfectly functional adult whose opinions should be respected, and yet they consciously go against you anyway.
>well it doesn't matter what they think because my side is the one that is right!
Good argument.

>I invented a highly specific definition of censorship so when I bully people into silence it doesn't count.

>Trying reading my post one more time before posting something else stupid.
I already know where it will end up, and it will be with you looking stupid, but you won't realize that, and just be angrier than you were before.
Before we even start delving into your delusional bullshit, give us some proof that "most male characters are not hyper-masculinized". When we have the most popular and most common titles being things like fighting, shooting and sports, were most men are all strong/fit dudes that also looks handsome as fuck.

thats my point yes.
they also think that people somehow "owe" them for their "achievements"

>been indoctrinated by Americans
Fix'd. Left and right doesn't matter, its all Americanization as spread through America's most powerful weapon, mass media, has a measurable affect on public opinion. Notice how the countries that are more isolated from American media and social discourse are least likely to identify with this sort of garbage.

Abusing control over publishing to censor controversial work without explicitly violating the creator's right to make it has been tried before.
It wasn't a good idea then and it never will be.

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You can make attractive characters without them being skimpy, tall models with huge milkers.

>And wheny ou look at Mortal Kombat, they deliberatley said they WONT give you that choice.
Yes, because MK doesn't have character creation, it has established characters designed by the company. They can choose to design their game exactly how they envision it. They own the franchise and they're the ones paying to make the game. They're not obligated to succumb to your arbitrary desires of what you feel the game should be like.

The whole hyper universe thing was hilarious.

Are SJWs Islamic in nature? Why not dress everyone in a burqa?

>alternate costumes are the same as character creation
ill leave this stand here, my point has been made, not fro you but for people reading.

>You can make attractive characters without them being skimpy, tall models with huge milkers.
yes but Mortal Kombat chose not to.

>I have a middle schooler's understanding of the concept of censorship, but I'm shitpost about it like I'm an expert

1. Steam isn't the only publisher out there
2. Steam is it's own company, it isn't obligated to publish every game that gets made
3. Steam refusing to publish porn games doesn't violate the creators right to make them

I remember seeing this one comic a long while ago where a bunch of SJW's were telling some video game developer how to design his characters, and once he was finished and asked if they would buy his game, they refused.

Anyone got that comic?

Man fuck these puritans. Just because you're a repressive fuckwit doesn't mean you're good or respectful.

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No because my agenda is titties and I like titties.

>that felicia redesign
>That I-no redesign
>HOLY FUCK WHAT Is MORRIGAN

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>ad hominem

I'm still mad.

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>like attractive characters
>don't want artists to stop making attractive characters
>"What the fuck? Stop pushing your agenda!"

The real absurdity is caring about what women consider respectful.

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Do you even know what censorship means? If they are prohibiting and/or suppressing something because of it is considered obscene or politically unacceptable, that is censorship.

>yes but Mortal Kombat chose not to.
Yes, and now you're mad and whining about it, what's your point?

>dude just make her tits smaller it fixes everything

You do NOT fuck with my Scottish succubus

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>overdressing a succubus
that'd dumb.

>Mortal Kombat 11 has over 100 pre-orders at every gamestop in my city
The game is gonna go gangbusters despite all the shit. The famine of fighting game will make the game succeed. The launch events are hyping to be bigger than the COD launches because normies love MK and want a good simplistic fighting game with violence. And because MVC is dead, nothing will change.

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How do we stop capcom?

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i fucking can't that image is fucking ugly, holy shit......its not just the skin, but everything about it, the intention, everything....
i guess everyone's an artist now.

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she's a succubus, what she's wearing is to avoid getting fuck/seen by men. hijabposter

>Taki becomes a loli
I will now buy your game

Morrigan was changed to only need constant excitement in later titles. Only in the first two Darkstalker games is she a true succubus.

"Left" vs "Right" is a jewish trick. Do not fall for it.

Steam doesn't censor shit, if an erotic game wants to be published on their platform, that game's company can choose to make a censored version of their game to publish on steam. Otherwise they can just publish an uncensored version on a different platform.

>Look I’ll improve these iconic characters!
>Ahhh yes. Now that they are all either lolis or Thai ladyboys I can finally fap... uhhh I mean they’re finally fixed.
Cutting characters tits off and putting baggy clothes on them =/= improvement

>Frankly, my complaint about things today is that no one seems to be able to replicate those cool and impressive females of then, and when they try it gets muddied up in propaganda, fetishism, or they're just flat out portrayed as crass.

2B, Ciri, Bayonetta,...
Provided, you could probably say all of these are just someone's fetish fuel. But that's not really the case any more than whoever made Chun-Li being a leggins fetishist.
And, sure, if you dislike Bayo, there's always Jeanne.

There is no way to break the vicious circle of idiocy except for a combination of authoritarianism + a competent and well-meaning ruler. The problem is, authoritarianism almost always comes with a ruler who is either incompetent or corrupt.

exactly, isn't the whole point in fighting attire, to be wearing less clothing, or to wear clothing that of which you can move around in, avoiding as much pieces of clothing to get grabbed, or something you can actually feel light and in control. It's OC gone wrong for these people. yeah some of it is fan service, but isn't seem to look like it is limiting movement in any way.

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Same...
>be over 30, have kids, be married
>they want to take my self-insert fantasy away

They'll just yap about internalised misogyny anyway, they're on some sort of sick crusade, it's all about their brand of morality

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>457007554
and you whine about people not wanting to buy it.
i explained to you why this thread exists.
you choose not to get it.

Do you even read what you write? Prohibiting someone to publish your work solely because of its obscene or politically unacceptable contents IS censorship.
And you literally said it, they only allow content that was already CENSORED.

I literally don't care about MK at all, it's the example you brought up. When did I say I cared about people not wanting to buy it? I think you're just deliberately being dense now.

Her ending in the first game has her succ Pyron and leaving him a dessicated body IIRC

all of that just screams "projection of insecurities"

It's the same thing with the gay dominated fashion industy. Gay men envy and like women, but they have to look boyishly flat. You'll never see RejectEra gush over Kelly Brook types, but any flat chested celeb like Taylor Swift they'll worship.

They are gay and catering to their needs. The "sjw" thing is only part of it. They'd even prefer you called them sjws than biased for being gay. They don't want you to figure it out.

Even with the Arisen Caprines on our side, I still think the Jews have the advantage. Who else can we wake up?

Unlike senran, Idol m@aster, and Kancole. FGO and Granblue didn't start of with all female cast.

This, too. There are some insecure women in there as well. But it's mostly fags.

Because their view is the correct one

Imagine going into a stripclub with this "man"

Deciding that you don't want the platform you own to publish games with pornographic content isn't censorship. They aren't censoring anything, they're choosing what games they accept. If a game company really wants to have their game on a porn-free platform, they can choose to censor it themselves and publish it on your platform.

I prefer to fuck girls rather than pay to look at them, but you do you, man :)

I have no problem admitting that the average human is an easily deceived dumbfuck that cannot be trusted with their own decisions, based on how an advertisement for a washing machine can work without ever talking about how well the fucking thing washes clothes.
But if you believe this, and you advocate for restrictions based upon it, you no longer believe in freedom.

The average person will unironically defend Bioshock, Fallout New Vegas, Dark Souls, Deus Ex: HR, nuXCOM, Skyrim, and Breath of the Wild.
Despite this, though, I think restrictions on what the individual can do will backfire harder than just letting them be morons. The only way for humanity to stop being dumbfucks is a very slow progress that happens over generations, and you can't force people to be smarter no matter how hard you curbstomp them.

>What if Idolm@ster had visible males that weren't the producer?
You don't need to imagine that, because it already happened, and also eventually lead to an iM@S spinoff that is exclusively males.

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Sweden, not even once.

Poisons redesign is pretty good

Based and redpilled

PEDOS RISE UP

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is there a better res of this? also, in english, doc

Wtf is this guy saying? Noone is trying to protect lines of paper. Everyone with a brain is condemning jacking off to little girls. Ya see, if we eliminate the pedo scum then we don't have to protect the fucking children you fucking idiot.

I just like big tits.

Is this a crime?

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No one will take you seriously when you put "fucking" in front of every word. It makes it seem like you lack vocabulary and maturity.

I'm dead tired but here goes:
Its important to keep in mind the role women play in human social organization from a sociological / anthropological perspective. Women are the gate keepers of masculinity and sex, women are most responsible in molding new generations, and more broadly women are the primary agents of social control. With that in mind there was an interesting piece of research out of America on body image I read way back. Basically it found that white teen girls read white teen girl magazines managed by white women and with articles written by white teen girls. The body types featured where thin with little indicators of fertility (small chests, flat butts, narrow hips, thin thighs) but pretty faces (not gorgeous). Turns out the the WTGs had poor self image and were completely out of touch with what white teen boys liked. However the black teen girls read magazine aimed at high age brackets which while primarily black did have more diversity of authors (specifically in non-black culture magazines). These magazine featured a variety of body types but with a focus on indicators of fertility. Turns out the BTGs had good self image and were in touch with the likes of not only BTB but boys generally. Also of note is that when the magazines were swapped the WTGs where unfamiliar with them and critical and dismissive of the magazines, but the BTGs where familiar with the WTG magazine as they read them as a curiosity and found them funny.

What is the point? Just as with sexual selection in other animals there is competition among the sexes, Men put on displays and attempt to out do each other for women in the hopes of being selected, and sometimes will avoid competition with better men as to not makes themselves look bad. Yet with women they do not have to perform as much since they are the judges, but if another woman seems like a threat to one's position she will be teared down in the hopes that men will not select her.

But they're not jacking off to little girls, they're jacking off to lines on paper.

>The fucking face on I-no

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This is what I imagine /aco/ is like. Or the "Western" category on sadpanda. True nightmares.

Notice the background. Now try to imagine the context. It shouldn't be hard.

If you like big tits then you’re a sexist bigot.
If you like small tits then you’re a pedo.

Please /pol/ don't come here with your graphs and things, we are having a legimitate discussion here

I jsut really like girls , is that a problem ?

>You're not going to wear a bikini to a fight

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Bait

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have sex

Mexican cheesecake artists are top tier. Everyone else imitating anime style, far from it.

Shut up Anita, also, the women's don't play fighting games.

Taki looks like a child.

Back in the days companies used to rely on sex appeal to sell their product. Now that we are familiar with the brands and hooked on the products they dont have to rely on cheap tactics like showing boobs and skin to get people to pay attention.

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Sleeping giants

if you like sex then you're a pervert
if you have a type you're a racist
if you have standards you are objectifying women
FUCKING CIS MEN WHY WONT THEY ALL JUST DIE ALREADY, but please first fight this war and build my house, also be a gentleman but dont be a cuck pussy lmao, also you need to cook,clean,make lots of money,be ripped, have a big dick but also just be yourself xD

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>we are hooked on their brands
Then why do they keep upping the sodium content?

>Taki
>Younger
>Smaller
Taki was improved.

Nice counter-argument

they know people will buy the new mortal kombat because its mortal FUCKING kombat and now they can remove boobs safely to appease sjws without impacting sales much.

No, that's not what a no true scotsman is.

Why does loli get a pass but not furfags. I mean seriously it's just lines of paper.

ayo frog gang🐸

>fapping to 2D girls means you'll do it in real life too
So you can't separate reality and fiction and assuming that everyone can't too?

I'm not hooked on anything like you fucks. NRS haven't had my money since MKX. Now they're on top, they've become the Sony 2005 of fighting game devs.

How the fuck can you still use perks

Just think for a second about furfags and you’ll know.

🐸

S K I L L🐶

mad cuz not cool🍤

its not the art its the community, they literally circlejerk their "persona" or whatever the fuck
the whole point of being user is that no one knows who you are so you cant egotrip, but posting your fucking donutsteel oc and ripping up gay drama is an ego booster like no other for furfag scum and seeps like into every board actually worse than pol or anything else you can imagine furfags being allowed are an apocalypse tier event

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But the movement is biggest in Britain...

>cunny good
>furfag bad
What a fucking cop out, both deserve the rope

idk user, I've met waaaay more lolicons irl than I have furries and 9/10 lolicons are subhuman degenerates.

holy shit I like how he had to explain it like he was talking to a child, anyone who tries to fight for the rights of fictional characters is retarded

Think harder user, I know you can do it.

>biggest in Britain
>America has a larger population
>America is the birth place of post-modernism which was funded heavily to crush international criticism of American society, gain soft power, and push academics away from communism
pic related

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Im not saying theyre not garbage, im saying that furfags are much worse at the time when they got the bad rep that they had. These fucking pedos post random "waifus" the furfags post their own personifications. Do you see the difference in a motivation for shitposting? It quickly becomes way worse than what you can imagine furfags are peak autism.

Honestly a developer can make whatever he likes and if you don't like it don't buy it and fuck off.
Artistic freedom and all that jazz.

But I am not American so this logic may not work for you.

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I don't like furfags because pretending to be anthro animals is pretty fucking weird, but that's it, it's just weird. Lolicons on the other hand romanticize fucking prepubescent little girls. That makes me more uncomfortable and creeps me out.

>he doesnt know the onu wants to ban loli

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There was a screeching pterodactyl who was so butthurt about Kingdom Come: Deliverance's developer not wanting to put in diversity in his game that he attempted to get a Twitter outrage mob and have him and his game de-platformed which would have essentially meant he nor anyone else could advertise his game.

While there is no direct evidence of people getting their income taken away over disagreements in political views there have definitely been attempts.

nope they want to ban "young looking characters"
that goes far beyond loli

>he doesnt know about diaper furfags
you thought ONLY being a mere pedo was way out there in creepy territory?
try furry pedos with a scat fetish, you are such a sweet summer child

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lolicon have a far ways to go to get to the level furries

see here:youtube.com/watch?v=8aF2GxWi7Ag

That artist really needs to learn to draw different faces.

stop trying to relativize your furfaggotry with your shitty whataboutism
gas all furries

you assume developers like ed "hookers and blow" boon, WANTS to make a sterile version of his legacy series. and is not forced by HR departments and screeching banshees that have wormed their ways into positions of power in the west throguht constant diversity hires.

>Lolicons on the other hand romanticize fucking prepubescent little girls.
This. Also violent video games romanticize murdering people so I don't play those either. Anyone for some Puyo Puyo?

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Okay, but realistically what percentage of furries are diaper scat pedo furfags? Probably on the low side, while 100% of lolicons have a fetish for prepubescent children.

Keep telling yourself that

>American franchise company gets taken over by SJWs and they change the values of their games to appeal to SJWs

Fine, what can i do to change it after all? Screeching for the past 4 years has not given any result

>Japanese devs want to make boob grabbing games
>Americans scream to them to stop

This is where i am not okay. It's their vision, it's their project. Who cares.

90% of western gaming now caters to these fanatics so why going after the remaining niche overseas?

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That is literally what the other user was doing with lolicons, "what about furries?"

I really like girls too, and I love sexy designs. I have never been a fan of high heels though, just never seen the appeal.
So I don't really see the correlation between liking girls and liking high heels. Like good for you if you like them, but yeah.

>most male characters are not hyper-masculinized
Well, since fighting games (Namely Capcom ones with one SNK and one ArcSys entry) are the OP topic, tell me user: Which male characters in this roster from Street Fighter 5 are not hyper-masculinized?
youtube.com/watch?v=xLAI-M6Bnx0
Because I count at most 2, maybe 3. And last I checked, 8-12% does not qualify as "most."

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>Someone defending furies on Yea Forums


not on my watch

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change the heels for something you like chances are it still applies

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see

I like poison's design. the rest blow, tho

I don't care about your attempts to move the goalposts. The OP topic is about fighting game characters, namely Capcom ones, so I'm using Capcom fighting game characters to remain on the original topic.

Read the comment chain retard, we weren't talking about OP's post.

Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot.
Fuck

The reply chain started with which is pretty obviously in the context of OP's image. You're the only one trying to deviate from the original topic because you're being thoroughly refuted on it.

nice agenda you have there

>what percentage of furries
fuck you, what percentage of loli fapping edgelords end up raping kids? why is the burden of proof on everyone else but you.
Also fuck this thread i wasn't defending neither i just explained why furfags get a lot of shit and loli art doesnt see as much despite them being thoroughly reported and banned/deleted
actually fuck you for getting me into this conversation then claiming >hurr durr whataboutism was done first by this user
no it wasnt i said theyre both shit, i just explained why furries are hated on and not just reported like loliposters are. plus anyone who has had the absolute fucking misfortune of seeing actual CP on this unholy site knows that it is so much fucking worse those fucking drawing are like an edgy kids stick cartoons
actually annoyed by this fucking cunt, if youre a troll haha man you got me and i kinda hope you are because thats some 0 iq shitposting

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You're being intellectually dishonest if you think has anything to do with OP's post. Not wasting my time with you if you're gonna be intentionally dense.

God the worst one out of all of this is MK11

Like how do you go from pure Kino in MK9 to Muslim combat? Ed boon was supposed to be /ourguy/, how could he forsake us?

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stay mad sjw incel you lost

I'm sure they change 'problematic' things because they want it.

Not really. We aren't demanding creators change their vision instead if we don't like a game we simply ignore it.

I never accused lolicons of raping children, what the fuck user. I'm just stating that there are more people in the loli camp that I find disturbing than the furry camp. I'm not surprised though that there are still fags like you who support lolicon, there used to be a loli board on this site after all.

>I'm just stating that there are more people in the loli camp that I find disturbing than the furry camp
Such as?

Read the comment chain, user, for christ's sake.

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This. Leave my shit alone and I'm cool. That's literally all I want.

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Youre actually a massive faggot. Its not like there aint oppai in games no more, look at Senran Kagakura and tell me that with a straight face. People are just changing, and youre having an autistic hissy fit over it. Why cant we complain about things that matter, like this microtransaction hell were living in.

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>look at Senran Kagakura

it's dead thanks to the west

>look at Senran Kagakura
Dumb Satania poster

So no one then.

Right looks unironically like a much better design.

yeah you got it user

>I'm just stating that there are more people in the loli camp that I find disturbing than the furry camp.
Yeah I doubt that considering there's nothing more disturbing than passing off a fetish as a lifestyle.

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>succubus
>make it unnatractive

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>I never accused lolicons of raping children, what the fuck user.
And yet there are furries who actually wear diapers and used ones at that. So by your logic loli fetishists are less disturbing as they don't bring it into reality.

>look at Senran Kagakura
You mean the game whose producer left the company he was with over Sony's new policies and how they were affecting the newest game's development? That Senran Kagura?

Too bad the sexy designs couldn't save the piece of shit game that SF5 is.

I mean, I personally think romanticizing sexual intercourse with small children is a bit more disturbing to me than pretending to be a wolf, but to each their own I guess? I don't know why you're so bent on defending 2D child porn.

t. Gay

I think spreading HIV to hundreds of people is far worse

Yeah, but I really don't care if they bring it to reality because it doesn't harm anyone. You could see how bringing lolicon into reality would harm some kids, right?

>Why does loli get a pass but not furfags. I mean seriously it's just lines of paper.
This is you.
>its not the art its the community
Me explaning why furfags historically get more hate.
>idk user, I've met waaaay more lolicons irl than I have furries
You telling me about how you meet up with pedophiles and furries irl.

And IM the one "sympathizing" with pedos? You wont ever get to post your fucking gay furry porn here xXx_wolflord69_xXx fucking yiff in hell you nigger trash scum you fucking degenerate eternal colossal faggot i hope you get hit by a burning train

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see

I'm smart enough not to extrapolate the actions of a couple people to the entire demographic, but maybe you're not?

right looks like deviantart tier skin mod lmao

Because furfags obnoxious and disgusting. Nobody but other fucking furries like them.

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too perfect my eyes hurt

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Left looks like a 50 year old housewife.

I wasn't the original comment
>idk user, I've met waaaay more lolicons irl than I have furries
This was the first time I joined in, I'm not even a furry dude.

>than pretending to be a wolf
If only it stopped there. So far they've shown themselves to be absolutely disgusting degenerates who spread disease, on top of that with the masks you can't tell who is who.
Then you have a combination of loli and furry in babyfurs one particularly disgusting example is Pamperchu who not only was a Babyfur but went through the trash for used diapers to wear.

Basically loli fetishists have a line, furries don't.

>You could see how bringing lolicon into reality would harm some kids, right?
That's the thing, they don't. They keep it to themselves.

how does this information disprove it being a flaw rather than intentional

>because it doesn't harm anyone
You're joking right?

>that one faggot furry trying to relativize furries by going "b-b-but loli!"
your shitty tricks won't work
yiff in hell you furfag

hetero stop projecting on us just because you cant deal with your woman

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Tell me who it harms, user. I'd love to hear.

Yep, I said as much earlier, but that user kept wanting to talk about what would happen if these fantasies happened in reality.

>absolutely disgusting degenerates who spread disease
one dude

>Then you have a combination of loli and furry in babyfurs
This counts as a loli fetishist, so yes, this disturbs me as well. But this is in the small minority.

not when they outright admit it every time they're asked

>>It seems like women think there is a binary about form and as such try to change half of it, but men see there is no binary and women are just being sensitive
>you're wrong. here have an insult
>>the binary doesn't exist and I don't recall any instance where men tried to change it
>well here that claim about form being forever locked in a binary
>>that binary doesn't really exist which is supported by this bit of information from the specific thing that kicked this whoel thread off
>you are still wrong because I meant evidence from every source imaginable as to prove I am unequivocally wrong in my sweeping accusation

>>hey guy who repeated the claim about a binary existing, I also think that binary does not exist given this evidence from the thing that started this whole thread
>you are not paying attention to the discussion
>>I know he essentially want the word of god that he is wrong and can just dismiss anything short of analyzing every game ever made is which is impossible, but refusing to accept the evidence from the thing we were all talking about is strange
>you just don't understand that we are talking about everything and you would if you followed the thread of this discussion. Here have an insult
>>I understand we are speaking broadly but I am relating it back to the inciting action, and your refusal to acknowledge as much seems disingenuous
>You're being intellectually dishonest by doing exactly what I am accusing you of not doing by engaging with the original thread of the discussion. Here have an insult

user, I want you to know you did the right thing by not engaging with that guy any further.

>the only one that still has big tits is the tranny
>the cat lady gets turned into a frumpy cat lady
>burkas and burkinis for the rest
pure pottery

you tried

No argument. Cool.

>one dude
Yeah no most of them are the same in that regard. You see, most furries have to inhibitors so they'll just do something regardless of the consequences.

>This counts as a loli fetishist,
Except it doesn't a Babyfur is an adult furry who acts like a child.

And have a read of this.

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Oh and because they frequently wear these for days without washing they aren't very pleasant to be around in general and act as a deterrent at most cons.

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>immediately remembered what this was upon seeing the thumbnail

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>turns everyone into prepubescent girls
what

>Bothering redesigning Darkstalkers characters when there's never going to be another Darkstalkers game

It had to be done.
Now I must delete it lest I stumble upon it again.

I already know all this. But in the end, every individual is accountable for themselves. So while the media angle is fair and true. It's only true to a lminited degree. No one is forced to do anything. Secondly, no one can't blame either gender more than the other or put more onus on the other to be the side to mold generations. Things started off with men in control, so if women became the molders, men allowed it. Moreover, if men raised by women became white knights or incels, women allowed it.

I also stop at using animal behavior as a measuring stick. Morals aren't universal. If you wanna argue they are, you gotta start bringing the objective absolute morality of a god into it. If you wanna bring god into it, you gotta stop the animal comparisons.

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Yeah that was some peak autism in the dark ages of furries seven years ago, but I'm not sure how common that stuff is now. I just don't know if these people represent the typical furry, you know what I mean? At least not the ones I've encountered in modern society.

Kero the wolf

Doesn't Love Live remove all traces of men.
So much they even remove male bathrooms?

>Tell me who it harms, user. I'd love to hear
>Yeah that was some peak autism in the dark ages
They still exist to this day you know. And even then Furries are generally unpleasant to be around both because they won't stop talking about their fetish and because they still don't clean those suits.

>At least not the ones I've encountered in modern society.
So you're either a furry, biased or both.

And may I remind you that bronies also fall under the flag of furries.

2b is a robot

destroy sweden

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Sometimes the blacks are alright

Fucking based.

>So you're either a furry, biased or both.
I try to be impartial, but you're definitely biased. I'm sure most of your knowledge comes from bad shit you've read on the internet.

>bronies also fall under the flag of furries.
Nah, I consider them their own thing. I think the fact that you think they can be grouped together shows you don't really know much about either.

The outfits themselves are just fine and maybe even preferable in a few cases (Poison and I-no), but Morrigan and Felicia's redesigns are just down-right ugly.

Not like there's ever gonna be a new Darkstalkers game, anyway.

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>every individual is accountable for themselves
Social phenomena have strong influence on individual action to the point where deeply personal acts such as suicide can be determined by external factors and mapped in the strength of their correlation.
>It's only true to a lminited degree
Media is not isolated, it is a reflection of society and its social control. Degree is determined by connection to society / social groups (e.g. afro-american culture) which is never 0.
>No one is forced to do anything.
Influenced to the point of being unaware.
>blame either gender
Blame is not the point, explaining a phenomena (i.e. women tearing down women) is.
>side to mold generations. Things started off with men in control
No one starts in control. Human social organization emerged organically from need of the species. Women raise and enforce social control because women were historically in a position to do so.
>Moreover, if men raised by women became white knights or incels, women allowed it.
What are you on about?
>stop at using animal behavior as a measuring stick
Human are animals, a fact inherent to anthropology.
>Morals aren't universal.
While there is a baseline in human behaviour that may be classified as morals, I did not say a specific set of higher morals or even all higher morals are universal. What I did speak of was primitive reflexes inherent to all humans, which can be accentuated by social environment which in itself can be used to propagate this accentuated behaviour.
>bring god into it, you gotta stop the animal comparisons.
Again, despite what /pol/ says there is a baseline human psychology, and higher morals are not universal they are similar but I am not talking about those. Also the divine is an outward projection of humanity and as such irrevocably tied to our animal nature. The god of rain is a pretty cool dude and were we get our cool ways from, ways which are actually human, and humans are animals.

>I'm sure most of your knowledge comes from bad shit you've read on the internet.
Personal encounters at cons. I do event security from time to time and frequently run into them and I always need to remove a group or two of them either because they're causing a disturbance or were asked to leave because of their odor and refused to comply which is always a fun time.
So no it's not bias they're the melee community but much bigger.
You on the other hand can't say the same seeing as you're denying that this happens.

>Nah, I consider them their own thing
You can, but it won't make it correct just like Babyfurs Bronies are a subset of furries and have very glaring similarities.

If it were a Christian demanding we censor titties, you'd be vocally against it. The fact you aren't shows what a fucking hypocrite you are.

>MFW I've never gotten a chance to play Darkstalkers despite the fact that it was practically made for me.

Chances are low that I'll ever get a chance to enjoy that world.

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Ive seen this image many times but just now im realizing where they are standing, Im seeing a Mito Shido book and a Takeda Hiromistu tankoubon, that woman had the chance to buy Tsundero and didnt take it, what a shame.

Fightcade exists man.

>Personal encounters at cons. I do event security from time to time
Ah, that explains it. Cons attract the worst of kinds of people in my experience, and you deal with troublemakers whenever you do security.

>you're denying that this happens.
Not at all, I just don't see this as the norm.

>Bronies are a subset of furries and have very glaring similarities.
Some do, especially if you go to cons, but their primary interests lie in different places. Most normie bronies just liked the show, they didn't care about the animal shit.

do I even want to know what this is?

Thanks, user. I've heard the name thrown around, but didn't actually look it up until now.

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>Developers are appealing to .01% of the population
There's your problem.

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Man, how the fuck are their games selling as well as they do then?

>Cons attract the worst of kinds of people in my experience
Not really no, most are manageable and are just there to have fun the exception being furries who always want to be the centre of attention but don't understand boundaries hence why they frequently get removed. The worst part is that they harass each other too when they see someone's outfit is similar to theirs.

>I just don't see this as the norm
Do you even leave your home?
It seems like your "experience" doesn't really exist.

>but their primary interests lie in different places.
Hence why its a sunset. Bronies hold the same ideals but towards a specific series rather than generally.

The same way the comic industry has been coasting into oblivion for 20+ years. It takes a while for giants to bleed out

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>He wouldn't a Nerd Felicia
Plebs, the lot of you, the intent was malicious but the outcome is delicious

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Throw in vsav to get you started if you decide to download. Have fun.

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Taki, Cammy, Poison, and Mai look cute. And Felicia looks pretty sexy with glasses.

>Pushing for actual artistic freedom not affected by problematizing self-righteous activists from the outside is the same as demanding developers cave in to my agenda

If regressive hipsters want to make SJW: The Game I couldn't care less to be honest, they can dig their own grave. What I do want is for all artists to be free to create the work they want to and not have to worry about a small reactionary crowd always on the lookout for the next outrage scapegoat. Changing your art because other people politicize it is not free expression.

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Remember: It's not SJW propaganda, it's not SJW retardation, it's not SJW filth.

It's communist propaganda.
It's communist retardation.
It's communist filth.

Call out the social Marxists as what they are: Scum sucking commie grave robbers.

Same reason many other companies can churn out garbage with a familiar stamp on it and still make a profit: the unholy union of brand loyalty and a captive audience. When most people need something to do and its all crap they don't find something new, since it might also be crap, instead they settle and decide they might as well go with crap they know. Think of those big flops of past with huge problems, which still raked in millions.

>implying SJWs are smart enough to be communists

Look at this

Don't used the C word, it scares the redditors off, at the very least call it Marxism, that's what they call it.

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>What I do want is for all artists to be free to create the work they want to and not have to worry about a small reactionary crowd always on the lookout for the next outrage scapegoat. Changing your art because other people politicize it is not free expression.

Not that user, but I agree with this statement. I want to play the developers game. The last thing I want is Squidwards big fat nose stuck to it. I don't even like it when something small and trivial gets censored. It isn't the original vision at that point and that's not what I payed for.

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Ive always hated powerpoints presentation, putting a bunch of words in a bullet style format makes me feel like nothing is actually being said and in this particular case, it just a phrase divided in 4 tinier phrases to give the illusion of content.

Almost like the person who made the presentation has the intelligence of a middleschooler.

nigger are you absolutely insane
read the history of the bolshevik revolution, this is par for the course. promote degeneracy while at the same time keeping it to yourself and telling everyone they're doing it wrong is a basic commie play.

but i'm being vocally against a bunch of people on Yea Forums trying to censor ed boon's design to change mortal kombat's art kecision for 11

Which was the result of him being forced to self censor.

>some shitty zombie that could be from any fantasy shit

MK9's designs have aged like shit and all of the women look like MtFs with bolt-ons. You'd probably agree with this objective fact if you weren't outraged out of principle. The recent worship of MK9's character designs is so fucking cringey.

It's a war, that's what you do to win.

>if we don't like a game we simply ignore it.
Biggest lie I heard.

>That Taki redesign which really just removes the spandex and removes her breasts

That's so fucking stupid I can barely make my words coherent enough to explain why.
Seriously the point of the spandex suit is so that there's little to nothing to grab on to. It makes her look smarter. When you dress her up like a generic shinobi you're taking away her competency. I don't care if you're too much is a weak social pussy to find insult in nipples you're a fucking retard when you design something for her and then slash out the spandex.

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Can someone explain to me how these people can say shit like "japan being japan" and not be called racist for it? They're literally judging an entire ethnicity based on their character designs and even going as far as to redesign them for them, unwarranted. Pretty fucking insensitive to foreign cultures desu.

sweden
yes

>like attractive characters
>constantly hate on media that doesn't have attractive characters and tell them to stop putting ugly characters in games
>wtf I'm not pushing any agenda

are the games still fun though
this is important

Then find an example of non SJWs trying to change a game to suit their needs.

>pettanko taki

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Because Japan is a leftist punching bag

Except it's not censorship

>constantly hate on media that doesn't have attractive characters
Except no one is doing that.

The only issue is the proportions like skarlet's fucking stick hips personally or the already mentioned manjaws.
Designs are alright I guess, but I prefer PS2 designs for most of the chicks

At least they kept the one girl barefoot

you mean like Mass Effect Andromeda?

>Taki is now a loli

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Only in the West and their cancer.

You make fun of Nip guys and call them less manly than you all you want, but it is they who can pretty much enjoy whatever they want without anyone pointing fingers at them at the end of the day. And it is Westerners who have been cucked and can't even managed some small rainbow-haired tribe that dictates them what is appropriate to like and not.

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That's pretty fucked up by their own logic how do they get away with it?

how retarded are you to think that society is just somehow under the control of a blatant strawman

asians are schrodingers minority
they're both white and poc
so leftoids can both insult them and use them at the same time

It was also a mediocre entry all around even during pre-release screenings, so that's just a fraction of the complaints

Taki was underage in Soul Blade

The same way the left gets away with supporting Iran and terrorists in the middle east now. They just do.

They love to suck the life out of everything don't they.

Female ninjas often used their sexuality as an asset
Morrigan is a fucking succubus
I-no is a rock star, why wouldn't she try to be sexy.
Elena already has to much cloths for tribal all things considered
Poison is a tranny

im okay with this

It used to happen back in the 80's and 90's by conservative christians, though most of it wasn't that effective really. Finding conservative christians in game dev is pretty much impossible, so that probably had something to do with it. It more or less led to the ESRB though.

because they don't operate on logic
only feelings matter

>supporting iran

The left does this? I need examples, afaik they shit on Iran because Israel hates them and their old president was a holocaust denier.

Then explain why gaming in West has taken the cource that it has in the last decade. Japan didn't change. The West did.

Which was a game that went from decent looking characters to absolute shit ones because it was deemed offensive to have good looking characters which goes against your point.

To prove your point you would have to find a game that's always had ugly characters.

No, because my agenda is right.

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Obama gave Iran 151 billion dollars and a cheat sheet on nuclear technology and a bunch of scientists. He also sold a billion dollars of Uranium to Russia.

bingo