Is patreon ruining indie games?

is patreon ruining indie games?

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>Great concept
>Shitty art

everytime

Someone redpill me on Patreon. I see a lot of porn artists use it.

It isn't even shitty art. It is art so fucking bad that I can't even fap (slang for jerking off) to it.

Tons of shitty untalented people make a living off Patreon might as well throw your hat in the ring, you lose literally nothing.

You likely weren't around for the "here's the link to my blog, donate to my paypal" period. Patreon has done wonders for accountability, transparency, and open communication between developer and community. Indie devs were always shit, but now the problems are found and either corrected or exposed faster.

>(slang for jerking off)

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Just as an example, the guy who made Snow Daze or whatever the name is, the one where you hypnotize your mom and sisters and make one of them into a dog. Before Snow Daze, he made an RPGM game with a similar mind control/corruption concept called Overwhored. Play that game. You can literally see the moment when he stopped caring about game development and gameplay and combat balance and puzzles and map creation, and just started dumping his plot ideas and rushing the ending. Game went from decent with good characters and great potential to a fucking shitpile. Patreon's wide community would have prevented anyone who betrays their community like that from ever being trusted again, but because the first game was in blogspot no one knew what kind of shitter the dev was until it was too late.

Well the ending(s) to SD was also rushed and garbage so it wasnt very different

I make content
I can wall off content and force people to subscribe in order to view it

Patreon is fucking retarded because it encourages people to never finish making their game instead it's in development forever because they are getting paid monthly no matter what.

>Come up with idea for game that orbits around some fetish
>Fetishists give you 20,000 a month to work on your game
>Contract patreonitis, never work on the game, and constantly make blogpost about how you're sick and your dog ran away and your truck wouldn't start.

It would be great if we didn't have braindead whales bankrolling fags who were obviously fucking the dog and collecting a check. If game devs started seeing their bux evaporate when regularly making zero progress we'd be seeing a lot of miraculous recoveries

>hey guys new update
>i redid the mom and sister
>hey guys new update
>i redid the mom and sister
>hey guys new update
>i redid the mom and sister
>hey guys new update
>i redid the mom and sister
what did darkcookie mean by this?

>(slang for jerking off)

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Well Im never giving a cent to anyone and I am getting free games so its a win/win

>50k+ a month and still growing
>less than 1% progress per day
how do i get on this scam train?

make some daz3d/honey select goblins with incest and ntr

>(slang for jerking off)

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by being a retarded american
90% of his patreon donators are retards from dumbfuckistan

Doc, I need green and purple pills!

>(slang for jerking off)

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How close is this to being finished? I'm holding off playing it until it's done.

realistic guess: somewhere between five and eight years

What did he mean by this

It comes out the same day as cyberpunk 2077

I use Patreon, because I spend all day, every day working on my videogame, and food isn't free. It allows me to not paywall anything, while still being able to (somewhat) afford rent!

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is that when you touch the bits you're not supposed to touch?

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Wait thats what fap meant?
All these years!
I bet user thought I was dumb!

>literally incentivized to never finish work
what could go wrong

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>(slang for jerking off)

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No, it's easily directly responsible for some of these games coming into being. You think Tales of Androgyny would be around without money? You'd still be jerking off to CoC.

There aren't any indie games worth playing on Patreon anyway, so no.

As always with any scam, make big promises.

Thx, doc.

Is there a new release?

That is not content I want to be made aware of on my pure Christian blue board

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why is it americans and europeans that keep falling for this shit

thanks

Yes, simple shit never gets finished because the devs are incentivized to take forever.

It is a skinner box.

It's never going to get finished, because that's how Patreon works. Instead of paying for a finished product you pay the developer every month to work on the game. In other words, the longer they spend adding tiny incremental updates to the game, the more money they make.

>indie games
I think you meant porn concepts

>removes the fetish theme, the only redeeming quality of the entire game
>removes entire scenes from the game because they're "too rapey"
>went from updating every month to updating twice a year

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how the fuck do people fap to bojack

i only wanna kms after watching it. i mean i'm an alcoholic but still

I just hate playing and get to a part where it tells me "content coming, next update" or something like that

It's a lot easier to be bad at making financial decisions when you don't have to count every penny just to pay for food and rent, so it's no surprise that autistic manchildren from wealthy nations make for easy scam targets.

>be fenoxo
>earn $32k per month while other people write your content for you

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Some games get finished but thats because the dev got tired of working on them and wants to start something else

I bet you never get to use that one.

It's a great monetization method, it guarantees that artists and shit will NEVER finish their work because if they do, people will unsubscribe

I also want to kill myself but because of how bad the show is, cant believe I wasted all that time watching it.

i'm ok with this continuing at least until the slablands fags all kill themselves lol

What's the appeal of incest? I don't get it. I mean fucking your sister can be hot, by why do people want to fuck their mothers? Is it just Freudian childhood trauma?

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Congrats on riling up the newfags.

he is a scam artist, but to be fair, the incest stuff was cut because of patreon rules

post honest weg devs
okochox.blogspot.com/

Now THIS is shitposting

He could easily do the same thing every other fetish creator does and make an "unofficial" patch
There's no defending him

Monetary incentive to never deliver a finished product

>people don't realize it's irony
joke has been made dozens of times already, stop being new

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oh the lateshifter guy, did he finally got out of his hiatus?

Yeah he is working on a new game that has a demo out star knave, you should try it the music is amazing.

I say the new Golden Rule for crowdfunding any game should be that most of or ALL the art assets aside from stretch goals should be completed and that the only thing left to do is programming and revisions to already completed animations/characters. At least that's what I'd do if I were makin it so people could trust me more than the big-talkin porn artist who doesn't get shit done while makin 40K a month, remember Breeding Season?

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I think everyone knows the pasta user

>ICSTOR
>creates fetish content while giving no fucks about patreon rules
>stops charging his patreons when he feels like he won't be progressing for a bit
>actually finishes all his games

>games are all 3D goblino simulators
It's not fair

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>not only people will pay for making/updating your game
>they will make content for FREE
jesus, talk about being fucking lucky
Not going to say fenoxo didnt work on CoC when it first started out but the moment that game blew up was the moment he was living the easy life

Coc is a masterpiece that only keeps on growing.

his style is pretty tolerable for 3D shit, all things considered.

It's just such a crazy idea. Taking a women who had authority over you for such a long time and suddenly turning the tables. Or maybe not maybe it's some kind of femdom scenario where you don't want to do such a disgraceful thing but she's going to make you do it anyway.

I don't want to fuck my actual mother because she's not sexy but if she looked different that would be another story.

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who is "user" ?

I respect ISCTOR. He has more than 5 completed games under his belt. They might not be the most quality games out there but he puts effort into them. He actually has improved quite a lot as well if you look at some of his old rpg maker games and compare them to milfy city.

Also the devs of Big Brother and Dating my Daughter can go suck a bag of dicks.

>Gets 50k
>Pays half a dozen artists and programmers
>All they do is to deliver 3 badly animated sex scenes, a shitty minigame and rewrite the same story arc over and over again every 6 months
>They manage to have game breaking bugs in a fucking visual novel
This isn't just wanting to milk pateron bucks, this is a lethal mix of greed and severe incompetence

I'm actually envious of him. The dude is like the Notch of text based smut games.

>mom
You mean landlady
>sister
You mean roommate
And you forgot
>Aunt
You mean your landlady best friend

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>(slang for jerking off)

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I miss the days when tfgamessite and hypnopics used to pump out RAGS games regularly. RAGS is a shitty program but goddamn those games had SOUL and they were for the joy of the fetish community not a way to make a quick buck.

post never gets old

MRdots is cool

He is unironically based. He put proper effort into CoC and he got lucky with the community of fetishists he built up having some decent writers in it. Can't blame him for taking it easy when everything lined up so perfectly for him

Yeah, instead of making a patch like every other Patreon dev does, they went out of their way to rewrite the shit so a simple patch doesn't even cut it. The story's still garbage that doesn't make sense, but it's not a find-and-replace mom to landlady that everyone else does
And the 5-6 month update cycle is complete horseshit. It's not even more content than the old monthly updates were. Can't believe people still pay

I'm genuinely angry at how great of a concept this game is, but the art looks like everyone is fucking melting

what scenes did he remove? I haven't played that shit in like a year.

Eh. Milfy City is pretty high quality. Probably the most content in an 0.1 version there's ever been, and it's been improving ever since. But ICSTOR's older games are pretty shitty. Full of RPGM pointless grinding nonsense

>western hgame has shit art
>its patreon's fault

how do people believe this. western porn art was shit long before patreon. even with their tens of thousands of dollars in budget, the best thing they can do is upgrade from average deviantart artist to """good""" deviantart artist.

Don't blame him, blame the system. If it's a one time payment, they take the money and run. If it's reoccurring payments, they drag it out. Why be paid half as much for working twice as hard?

I wouldn't even be as upset if it wasn't all the most basic bitch fetish shit. literally every game is about some kid who lives with his mother and 1-2 sisters and begs them to have sex with him until they give in.

Thank you for your work, Kobold-user. If that is you.

Not true. Sometimes its about some guy who lives with his wife and 1-2 daughters and begs them to have sex with him until they give in.

Who's to say the incest shit just wont be put back in when the game is done?

>when the game is done

Stop writing essay and make an actual gameplay

Not true. It's now always about some guy who is living with his landlord and 1-2 roommates and begs them to have sex with him until they give in.

It's probably been years since I've last seen this

Be grateful you spend less time here than the rest of us.

what the fuck happened to f95 zone? why is there furry shit everywhere suddenly?

its a certain day in some parts of the world

>follow incest game
>they do this after Patreon threatens shut down
>lasts another month with unofficial patch
>gets threatened with shut down again and forced to completely remove
>easily
No fuck you. You have no idea.

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My pleasure, user!

What gameplay do you expect from a textual choose your own adventure game?

>the west decried grinding as a horrible mechanic that should never exist to attack japanese games and call them shit
>the moment a western porn industry emerges 90% of the games are filled with horrible grinding


What did they this by mean

>5 frames
>(1/10) of a second
what is this, a European ps2 game?
but seriously what is this image, a concept or an actual game mechanic and if so what game?

This post is a great way of checking how many newfags are in a thread. Everytime.

>play western porn game
>no grinding
You can find shit anywhere in the world my friend.

Meant to say 1/12 of a second. Just a silly daydream of mine to make an RPG.

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grinding is a bad mechanic desu
it's not like people like it in western games either, but 2d grindy turn-based rpgs are one of the easiest things to make, none of them even try to have any variety or make themselves any different
it's just the fact that everyone making porn games have a small team (often just one guy) with low budgets etc.
not really an east vs. west thing

Or at least write something worth a shit

I'm just about to start my own patreon, I'm planning on making games & 3D models
although I don't know what kind of stretch goals or donation tiers to have
Anyone have any advice for me?

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Don't do any stretch goals that way people will never get their hopes up and get disappointed because it isn't exactly what they envisioned. As for tiers, just put in thanks and early access to posts. Highest tier can get shit like feedback and input into consideration. You want the goals and tiers to be as meaningless as possible while still seeming like its something.

Kinda unrelated, but why are porn game threads (specifically weg shit) so fucking comfy? I lurk every now and then and it never fails to make me laugh.

Also, Roguelike is the one I've play the most by far. The dialogue is very messy and buggy at times, but damn do I love the way the interaction with the characters works.

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Well I hope you make your game user, even if it's just for yourself.

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Everyone loves porn

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Remember, "through dick, unity"

Porn is the one thing Yea Forums can get together and discuss with some modicum of civility instead of autistically screeching at one another. It's quite nice, makes for comfy threads

Yeah, thought I heard exactly this before

Because nobody hates porn/sex. Its the one thing in life everyone loves, so nobody shitposts.

Has there ever been a successful game that came out of patreon? All I hear is blah blah patreon tried pulling it down due to incest blah blah ding dong almost lost the entire game blah blah game got scrapped because artist switched projects blah blah I've been giving somebody $20 a month for their game when I could've just used that money to buy games. Has there actually been anything worthwhile come out of patreon period? It's just whores, podcasters, and youtubers from what I've seen.

At least Kickstarter had stuff like Shovel Knight, FTL, Hyper Light Drifter, Divinity, and Shantae. And e-begging is harder to do on kikestarter even if most the stuff ain't the greatest.

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shinji ikari make games now?

>Has there ever been a successful game that came out of patreon?

I can think of at least one, if by "successful" you mean "was (properly) finished and released", and are also including porn games.

>(slang for jerking off)

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At least until some schmuck brings in underaged and then you have some autistic gits yelling at each other about pedophilia, jail and fictional subject matter.

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people mostly shitpost for topics where they can already have normal discussion basically at will. weg threads are rare and it's really hard to find "discussion" elsewhere that isn't just people ranting that they're stuck and begging for 100% saves with full gallery unlocked.

I'll try not to blabber too much about it, but I wanted an RPG that looked like Super Mario RPG and even played like it, but with modern mechanics and a speed of play that's more appropriate to how quickly people can think. Some RPGs can take over a minute for everyone in your party and then for the enemies to attack. It's agonizing. Combine that with occasional Punch-Out!! type mechanics when you're on defense, along with an exploration closer to the very first Zelda game where you don't have to grind and can instead rely on your skill to get good stuff early, I figured it could be somethin good. Somethin friendly for both new players and speedrunners.

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>begging for 100% saves with full gallery
Jesus Christmas, just look at the fucking CG uploads. Why do those kind of people bend themselves backward for it?

The only good thing about patreon is it allows porn, even if it's never finished and/or shitty.

What is it out of curiosity?

you know there is a weg general in /aco/ right

>pedophilia

Disgusting and based

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That all sounds like a solid concept I could get behind, Super Mario RPG was kino and we'd be better off with more games in it's style. Makes me happy that there are anons with taste and talent found around the place every now and then. Hope you can make it work someday

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Scene Replays > CG Sets

Right I forgot about those, which would be a better alternative especially if there's animations.

This

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Will we be seeing more art?

>jenny forced sex being removed
>no more family fucking
>boring, titless eve on deck for next update as if I want to waste my time lusting after a literal chad plaything
>actually wasting development time on a kevin route for faggots
I can't believe people still give this man money.

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...

There's hundreds of indie games that will be made without patreon. Maybe support those ones instead.

>tfw making 75 Patreon Dollars per creation on a weekly basis for _____ compilation videos
>Only source of income because NEET
>Everything goes to paying services and cost of living
I'd rather be doing music videos, something of my own, but to achieve quality I need a lot of money to invest in that and I'm scared that all my patrons will pull out as soon as I start uploading original stuff.

I just want to stop feeling scared about the future, I'm so fucking tired of always feeling that hole in the stomach you get when you're worried, I feel like crying all the time. Just end my suffering.
Thanks for reading my blog faggots :^(

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It was created to be a jar tipping, supporting the artists, along offering options of polls from artists to users, better communication with the followers, subscription, and others.

In the practice, it's nothing more than a exploited grand marketplace, despite that Patreon was not created for that. Tons of artists can get easily greedy and egoistic with it, abusing paywalls, especially with copyrighted characters belonged to other companies, which THAT is noted to be against Patreon's terms of service (as well universal laws, of course). This cursed greedy "career" makes many artists to turn their hobbies into jobs, and this benefits no one except the artists themselves.

Patreon ruined the internet art and pornography community.

>(slang for jerking off)

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Of course. A lot of art is currently "in the works", but despite having a dozen orso artists currently doing their thing, nobody's actually producing anything of note. I hope that'll change rather sooner than later. Here's a completely innocent picture of a bathtub, which is a work in progress.

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He is actually gay so Kevin route is for himself really

Eagerly waiting.

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Speaking from experience, they will also want you to delete everything from your own site, because according to them a redirect to a site with incest is like having incest on patreon directly.
Even if you lock the link and try to give patrons the pass on the side, even if you hide the thumbnail and everything they don't give a shit.

Dont listen to the gameplay retard, write more stuff
The game needs more reoccurring secondary characters

Yeah for hire artists are the most lazy unreliable fags, I dont think your game needs a lot of art, your writing is competent enough to carry the scenes pretty well.

Thanks doc

>Computer literally burst into flames
It's like God himself doesn't want me to make my game. I can't even afford to replace it right now. Not like it matters when I can't even draw fucking hands

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Post hands

>even
Hands are the hardest thing to draw, even passable to good artists get them wrong all the time

>Patreon indie game
>Burst of updates right after the patreon goes up
>Suddenly they all stop a month later
>Year later the dev is still making $2000+ a month off it
Every fucking time

>computer literally burst into flames
every fucking time
no it didnt
you're just a lazy fuck

How? My fucking computer melted all my work is gone.

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I'll melt your dick with my mouth

Having sexual intercourse with your dad as the son (speaking as homo) is quite amorous and passionate, and it strengthens the bonding between you and your father. Knowing the fact that you're the son of a caring, lovely, cuddly and protective father with his task to guide you, give affection to you, and teach you (and theses being further effective upon sexual acts) is the attractive factor.

Of course, that's assuming everyone is above the age of maturity.

That's it. It's simple as that (or at least, that's how I understand it).

>no it didnt
Fuck you you don't know my struggle, everything electronic I touch breaks. I had to replace my phone last November because it the battery popped and shattered my screen like a goddamn cherry bomb.

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gaaaaaaay

>What's the appeal of incest? I don't get it. I mean fucking your sister can be hot, but
uh

Don't worry user, disregard this post for now, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Exactly HOW did your computer "burst into flames"?

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well you can try two things
one, backup your shit
two, stop being retarded, easily achievable by hanging yourself

>No incest shit
>No new female characters to fuck
>No added male characters that add up to the lewdness of the series
>No added gay shit with your friend, the gym guy or even the jock.
This game keeps finding a way to dissapoint everyone, jesus christ.

If you haven't drawn anything since, it's no wonder you can't draw hands.

It's been too long since I last saw this

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>(slang for jerking off)

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I got you senpai

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>I can't even fap (slang for jerking off) to it.

Are you trying to be funny or recreate a copypasta?
Because either way you're fucking stupid.

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>hey give me money so I can work on my art/game!
>sorry I missed this month guys, keep up the donations though!
>creator has not put out anything of note in 6 months since joining patreon
if anyone you like starts a patreon, consider them dead. Twitter qualifies for this too.

Western porn games are the fucking worst. It's nothing or 1 minute of content.
>3 scenes for the update's route focus
>1 scene maybe for anything else
>New girl(s), area(s), and object(s) that won't be touched for years unless the dev also has a paycuck poll

>tfw Jenny forced sex being removed
Has it been removed or will it be? It’s still in my version of the game.

This is why I stick to Japanese hentai games if you can suffer through translations of varying quality

Did he touch you user

>Repaired it last year after a motherboard failure, got it replaced
>Didn't realize the guy never hooked back up my cooling system and fans
>Something goes wrong inside and makes a spark
>Carpet catches fire and that whole corner of my bedroom burns before I can put it out
>Computer is kaput
And for the record is off base, my computer has been broken for about three weeks, it was my phone that blew up in November

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It has aroused my curiosity so I have questions and stuff
what determines weather you fail or succeed a block? is it based on a probability determined by a character's stats and/or equipment (shields would obviously have good purpose then) or is it based on something skill/timing based? maybe a blend of the two, with larger shields making it extremely easy and can just be held without needing to time normal blocks but with swords it would be something like 2/10 of a second just to halve damage, maybe an even tighter timing for perfect blocks, sort of how different shields or weapons have different parry timings in dark souls.
obviously this would present a problem since if it were possible to perfect block everything than as long as you can get it everytime you could get through the entire game, unless unblockables are a thing
and when you fail a block, does it give the enemy a free extra attack or does it just mean you can't block next turn? if it's the latter it doesn't seem punishing enough, unless it were to guardbreak you and take a turn from you or give the enemy a riposte next turn. I'm sure the former, while simpler would probably be the better way to go about things
either way it seems like an interesting concept, there are so many things to consider, if you wanted you could even copy dark souls and add a stamina mechanic to make blocking even more of a tradeoff

1/2

It happens. Not the same guy but my PSU literally went up in flames once.

2/2

my curiosity/concern mainly comes from this:
rpg games get their depth from their rpg mechanics, making it more about strategy
action games get their depth from their combat mechanics, making it more about skill
there are games like Kingdom Hearts II and Witcher 3 that are action RPGs but neither of them have the more depth in combat or rpg mechanics alone, but their action elements and rpg elements do compliment each-other pretty well, so they end up being pretty good blends of the genres
obviously it looks like your game is more rpg than action but I like it, what you said about RPGs taking over a minute for everyone to attack is one of worst things about turn-based games. the last "turn-based" rpg i enjoyed was final fantasy XII but that's because it's active battle system and how it can feel really fast, especially if you put it on active and max speed, needing to manage a whole party in realtime is a massive challenge so it's good the game still lets you set the speed to whatever you want. obviously gambits were necessary for it to work since you can pretty much "program" the A.I. of your party members
either way I feel that you need to get this game made if only to possibly push turn-based combat forward, it hasn't really had much change in a while

sorry for the blog it just intrigued me, I hope I didn't demotivate you, and desu is there anywhere where I could follow, just so that if it becomes a reality I'll know?

I just ended up picking it up because mom/son is an easy way to find older women with younger men.
That said I enjoy incest more when it's not just "hello family member, let's fuck".

it's the easiest and cheapest way to road block porn. Since most of these games exist to squeeze as much money out of the consumer instead of semen like it should grinding is a natural way to artificially pad out the game play and make it harder to get to the good parts. Bet that's why every new updated does the whole "past saves won't work" bullshit

Lilith's Throne was too good for this world

I still don't understand why western porn games are so different from h games.

>you fuck your mom in every game
>milfs actually look old and saggy
>heroines are non-virgins and talk about their sex experience
>anal is considered the ultimate goal of fucking

>(slang for jerking off)

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A little light on the dosage but thanks anyway doc

Though /gif/ kinda makes me doubt these words

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Western stuff has always been about realism
more realism = better is the way they think, and realistic stuff is more popular so you cant blame artists for going where the money is

that is because /gif/ is full of fags and niggers.

it's being removed. the night creeping and shower scene are done. bunch of faggot ass rules on patreon ruining our good times.
had no idea, so I guess that's fine. still mad he's going to waste an entire update on fucking eve. if her sister is not included, i'm going to be legit mad.

/gif/, like every other 3d porn board, is 30% creeps trying to troll for enough information to dox girls with, 20% thinly veiled /r/equests, and 50% people posting the wrong fetish in the wrong thread to bait (you)s.

Anyone else play My Girlfriend's Amnesia?

Shit was pretty cash

Was it canceled or is the creator just having another meltdown

I hate the meme that the way to fix turn based combat is by stuffing it with rythm game mechanics. if you ask me the improvements turn based games need are multitasking so you can queue up multiple actions quickly, simultaneous animations so you aren't stuck watching every action one by one, and deeper resource managment.

Not that user but Snowdaze is literally the only one I can think of that got complete and It's actually pretty fucking good

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>tfw lurked /gif/ for years back in the day before the literal cucks and homosexuals took over
feels bad to see what it turned into.

Christ, you are one unlucky motherfucker.
But to be honest the first part is your own fault for getting someone else to fix your shit instead of doing it yourself. An ape could build a computer, it's piss easy.
Also how did a spark reach your carpet? You're not one of those retards that use those open, structureless cases, are you?

Besides it must have had something to do with the PSU if you got a shitty cheap one; if your cooling system and fans were not connected the only thing that would've happened is that your CPU would've fried itself, not start a goddamn conflagration.

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>At least until some schmuck brings in underaged and then you have some autistic gits yelling at each other about pedophilia, jail and fictional subject matter.
Interacial and feet often brings out angry autists and futa is divisive as fuck

What's the name of this game again?

>that game that has potential to be good but devs take way too long to rollout updates, and even when they do it's pitiful and doesn't add enough to make you play it again
the brother/sister route really makes my dick hard

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sameface saga

>(slang for jerking off) to it.
Yea we get it

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It allows people to always ask for more and play the victim. Was reading the Rock Cocks comic and checked their Patreon; they were making bank but their latest updates were literally
>Unfortunately, almost all of our living expenses have been increased. Our health insurance has gone up to almost $500 a month, our car insurance has increased to $100+, our rent is twice as high as we used to pay. If we can stay around this amount, it should help take care of all the new expenses. Any extra money will be put into savings to help us take care of any emergencies that pop up (IE, Leslie's drawing tablet dies or our chihuahua breaks my legs)."

All these problems are self-made. I hate Patreon with a passion because people will continue to give money to people despite their clear inability to manage it. Or people who get loads of money 3500K+ a month and still drop off the face of the earth.

It's more like, half 14-year-old edgelords posting gore and unfunny memes that dont belong on the board and half cucks who can't jack off without race being a central component of their pornography

A goddamn travesty of a board, and it's so obvious that most of the people on there don't even interact with the other parts of the site since they treat is as just any other porn site

Hey Eve is based buddy

Sometimes we get some really creative posts like yours
Have a (You) and hopefully plenty more

Patreon kicked them off Patreon. They're still working on it

translation: "we making a lot more money than we previous did, so we moved out of our shitty apartment into an actual home. there's also the new 2019 benz we bought, because fuck it we now have the cash to spend. but in order for us to continue living this life of luxury, we need you to pay a little more"

>A gay guy making a porn game about fucking as many women as possible
That must be torture for him, I'm as confused as I am impressed

So green.

I actually do agree I don't think timing/rhythm fits in turn-based games
it's sort of why I was concerned by "5 frames for a perfect block". while that timing is pretty tight, in a turn-based game you'll pretty much always know when the attack is coming so you'll probably be able to time it every time so it needs some sort of consideration. not to mention there's a case to be made that turn based games should have no timing required and be all strategy. I think most can agree seeing the same slow, boring animations every fight is bad and takes too long, making it more of an exercise of tedium rather than needing to use your brain
and fuck grinding for the exact same reason

>a gay makes better straight porn than most straight people

I thought gays were degenerates guess I was wrong.

Can you read?

>Of course, that's assuming everyone is above the age of maturity.

fantastic taste

>and 50% people posting the wrong fetish in the wrong thread to bait (you)s
/s/ and /hc/ are surprisingly chill considering how bad /gif/ is, you post anything with a guy who's skin isn't NEET white you'll end up with countless replies yelling about niggers and cucks. I'd be funny if it wasn't sad

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I know the art in SS isn't great but man can I get off to this game. I get too invested for some reason

>go to /gif/
>just want an actual cuck thread
>there are three threads specifically calling out 'no cuckshit, go to your cuckshit thread'
>there is no actual 'cuckshit' thread
>search archives for cuck
>there were three cuck threads in the year 2019 with a grand total of 20 image replies between them

It's a hard life, this fetish of mine.

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some indie games wouldn't exist without some kind of crowdfunding

>being a literal cuck

some "aunt" scenes and some "sister" scenes

>when the game is done?
Good joke friend

Because the retarded person you follow clearly linked his patreon in some way to the patch or other banned content.
The dozens of other incest games that use this method have been going just fine. Try following less retarded people next time

what the fuck is the dad's problem in this game?

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Patreon and the people that follow them. Most are literal dicksuckers

it's great for self insert. I get off hard to that fat orc bitch like no other. perhaps it's because I've always dreamed of having some fat titty slut I could fuck on the side after school.

he wants his ass kicked

Patreon is basically a recurring subscription. It was used because unlike paypal it wouldn't just ban you and steal all of your money if they decided they didn't like your content anymore. Only now patreon's getting choked out by paypal, one of their major payment processors, for the same reason, so patreon's cutting people off if they don't remove "obscene" stuff like incest, furshit, etc etc. Regardless of how you feel about the content, they're basically being censored.

Patreon was a bad thing for devs though, yes. Any sort of consistent money flow is going to be a detriment if they're allowed to (and encouraged to) do nothing for it. Why is it a detriment? Let me put it this way.

If you were getting $30,000 a month to work on this project, but it stops (or at the very least slowly dwindles down to nothing) as soon as you finish, would you work on it? Fuck no. Token updates, once or twice a month maybe.

aunt diane and roxxy do it for me

For me it’s the handjob gril

Fucking aunt in the kitchen and a scene in the barn
Sister will probably cut most of them like the couch, shower and bed because they find it "rapey"

Not after hwr change

my only gripe with this game, is that you never got the initiative with the mother. just variation of the first fuck where she just denies she likes it while leglocking you

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Dreaming of Dana is still my favorite game ever. To bad their new game sucks.

>roxxy locker scenes
I want that shit so bad in real life, it hurts knowing i'll never get it. That shit was perfect.
what, the massage girl?

best shit for me is night creep on big sister. just rubbin' my dick across them panties while trying not to wake her up. then when she does, I slam that shit home and drain these nuts before she can let off a scream. i'm really going to miss OG jenny route. i'm sure the next update is going to ruin that shit bad.

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I don't think it's about fucking your actual mother, but rather breaking a taboo and feeling free to give motherly qualities to the object of your wanking. It removes the limits of the family tie and makes the mother a simple role just like the schoolgirl, the nurse and so on. A complex narrative usually enhances this kind of fapping.
Still, there are tons of porn of every kind that focuses on said family bonds, like those doujins where the mother wants a baby from his son. That's a whole another level of incest I suppose.

So he touched you

Hes not her real son tho so its acceptable

youtube.com/watch?v=ek7AdSSyFSI

this shit is the thing that makes western porn games have an edge over jap ones, the conquering of the mother, jap games seem way to quick
feel free to post a jap game that half the fun is conquering your mom. even if its full japanese, ill use machine translation

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youtube.com/watch?v=nEr5s17TxV8

You tricked me into thinking there was a new update dammit

I wish I wasn't so shit at video editing

Okay, if that's not the answer you're looking for, then I don't know what else to say to you. I don't understand you. Clarify your "argument" first, please.

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Good recs in this thread
It sucks that /weg/ only ever discusses the same two games

>remove relationship with mother cause incest
okay, makes sense
>removes relationship between mother and aunt despite them being twins and the relationship to MC already having been removed
what?
did he add a threesome at some point?

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>someone recomends me Book of lust
>think of it as some trash furry porn game
>start unlocking skills
>what if i try to do this, holy shit it works
>other more funded wegs dont compare
whats with furries and their twisted minds, only they can pull the shit i saw there

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i didn't know gays were so based

It’s a simple question, you’re far too defensive about this and over complicating it, it must be a sore subject.

Yes, a mom-aunt threesome was added in the most recent update. ("Recent" being like 4 months ago now.) It was always the plan to to that, so when the incest was removed that had to be altered as well

All these games pale in comparison to IA, god rest its soul

I don't know? Is Monster Girl Island finished? Is Yandere Simulator done? Is that one porn game about fucking creatures on a farm and breeding them done? Has literally any gaming related thing on patreon ever been finished? Seriously. If you could make it big just by telling people an idea and slowly release bits and pieces every so often. wouldn't you try to keep it going for as long as possible?

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threadly reminder

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shit, at 30k a month, i would work on my game in a slow, but steady manner.

i mean, making a whole years pay in one fucking month? you better believe anyone would take it.

No, the girl from the bathroom. I can’t believe I forgot her name.

>be darkcookie
>make $60K a month from a renpy porn game
>don't contribute a cent to the renpy project
based

Patreon allows leeway for content creators to get lazy. So, yeah it's kind of bad.

i dont care if they are just doddles but i need to fuck the deer's mom

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It's a simple question, but the slippery slope question itself has nothing related to the post that I explained the appeal. I didn't ask anyone to question me if he touched me. I never said or implied this.

>you’re far too defensive about this and over complicating it
Don't come up with accusations. It was you who came up with the simple question in the first place. I'm not complicating and being defensive. I'm rather simply trying to understand the question that has nothing to do with my initial post in the first place.

>it must be a sore subject.
I don't understand why are you invested to know my private life, but here's the answer anyway: no, he didn't touch me.

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there's a good chance there wouldn't even be any content if the creator had to have a day job and make games on the side instead

What a degenerate
i relate to your post way too much, specially about the mother not being attractive part.

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judith
I also love ugly girls, so hoping that get around to doing her route soon.

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?

Month 5 of learning to draw, I have successfully drawn a face that I am not disgusted by. But the neck it was attached to revolted me. Yuri tomboy dating sim ETA 2025 at this rate

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So is there something really new on Summertime Saga?
Last time I played blonde girl quest had just been finished. I stopped because I got all 3 of the 3 main bugs on that version of the game. I was waiting on some new shit to come out because I might as well if I'll have to replay the entire game.

Same

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>that pic

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>fap (slang for jerking off)
Yawn, seen this one before

Wait wait wait....are you guys saying that even the unofficial patch that added the incest back in doesn't work anymore?

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Goth sisters route when

We believe in you, user!

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*Ahem*
Fuck Patreon
Fuck Indie Game
Fuck Corporations
Fuck Jews
Fuck Jannies
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY
FUCK Western """Artists""

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Dunno about the sister but Eve is next questline

Taboo, nothing else really. I wouldn't actually fuck my own mom or any other relative for that matter, I physically retch whenever it happens to cross my mind.

>have to pay $10/mo just to get porn games with my fetish
>they only update like every 6 months
the fuck is this shit

What's your fetish, user?

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Worst thing about western porn devs is that they do everything online and at home
they dont have an office where they can gather all their workers to make sure stuff is getting done
It does not take months for an artist to animate shit.
simply stuff can be done within a day and quality animation maybe takes a couple weeks for a few animations to get done
everything is fucking freelance so there barely any control on the workers
also patreon devs are lazy, incompetent or both

Would you ever complete anything if you stopped getting 50,000 USD a month when you did?

Nice

If your dedicated, you can make it happen. The thing is, their either not dedicated or have really poor management.

soft ryona

Fuck you.

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Based game idea, make sure to put it up on f95zone when you start extorting retards for those patreon bucks so your fellow Yea Forums users get easy access. I wish you well improving your art

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Mildly based

What program does DarkCookie work with?

Good luck man

>Month 5
>I have successfully drawn a face that I am not disgusted by
As someone who was forced to draw for a year-long school project, that's pretty fucking impressive user.

Thanks user, now i can go to bed.

To make the game? It's ren'py

Version 0.15.1 LOL

what game?

>download it
>guess the character is the sister
>oh no we dont like incest what are you doin :3 stoooooppppp wink wink
>we are all 18 wink wink

Well thats retarded, obnoxious and annoying as fuck, looks good otherwise though

Guy who does a lot of podcasts now basically just does that for a living. Every time he starts up a new one, new patreon for the new podcast. His oldest running podcast (over 550 weekly episodes) just started what is effectively a patreon but not on patreon. I'm assuming he just want to collect all the money for himself, but the reward tiers are all basically nothing except for the highest tier which is something like $25 a month and he will send you a "membership card" each month.
I mean, the guy makes a stupid amount of content each month effectively for free and monetizes on the backend with patreon for people that just like his content. I can't fault any of that, but every show having a patreon is a little annoying when I have to hear about them 10 times a week.

My weirdest's a rather specific niche of soft vore, it is rather suffering at times

>enter sis room
>she masturbating while pretending to be asleep
dick insta rock hard

Hmm. I see. Looks like I'm gonna have to study some game makin'.

The one fetish Ill never understand and I understand all the rest Im pretty sure even if I dont have them
Getting killed gets you off? What the fuck man

drawing amounts to how much effort you want to put into it
Honestly progression through art is pretty damn fast if you really focus and want to learn it
once you hit the first ceiling after you learn the basics and fundamentals
next step is refining which can take years
problem is most artists, especially ones that draw porn never learn all the basics and fundamentals.
Once they achieve something they think is "cute" they stop progressing completely cause they are satisfy
its why there is tons of porn artists who never really improve that much

Fucking shit people this exact post has been fucking made before. Holy fuck why do you people fucking still respond to this shit?

>Getting killed gets you off?

That's snuff, user

do we have anything better to do
and be honest, do you

can you fuck the sister ?

You could ship a hundred games in ren'py and still know exactly jack shit about making games

But vore implies getting digested right?

Not him but I think soft vore implies they don't get digested and they come out fine

Is there any good Western 3D porn game? Most of them have the ugliest art styles I've ever seen in a porn game. It's like the developers don't understand that making the models realistic to the point of triggering the uncanny valley effect is bad.

I think that's more "hard" vore

Alright, relatively speaking. Semantics.

I'll make something that one might call a game, while not being a game developer, nor having the skills as such.

in the last update I played, not yet. there is a bf scene, so it's worth playing for that if you want. but it's been months since I played, so you might be able to by now.

won't spoil it for you, just go play if you interested.

You have to understand that these games are made to make money, and that their primary source of income is very anti-incest.
It's a business move rather than anything else.
It doesn't make it not-shit. But it's easy to understand and complaining about it is silly.

what game is this? People seem to know a lot about it but I have never heard of it, could someone give me a quick rundown?

Eh you get used to it

Cliffy B detected

What's wrong with slablands?
Genuinely out of the loop.

Oh I get that but I think a simple splash screen at the start with a disclaimer is enough, dont put that shit in the in game dialogue that patreon is not even going to read anyways

datingariane.com/

the GOAT and the only reason I got into Porn games

It's just a fucking scam where con artists go to trap stupid virgins with more money than common sense into giving them thousands of dollars monthly for the promise of games that will never be finished.

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>game is written by a Russian that barely knows English

Always a laugh

Wish you the best.

Hey Pathologic was cool

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Thanks user

She got reworkedj and will look different

SummerTime Saga
Free Western VN
Pornogrhapic in ature

N-no...

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everything. play it if you don't believe me. a gallery of prized autists has been camping in three separate threads on three separate boards (/vg/, /aco/ and /d/) circlejerking each other's hateboners for one guy for about half a decade and after all that, what they have to show for it is actually worse even then CoC was on day 1

based myntposter

The bandit gang was just reintroduced in Varanar, Night Three!

user (slang for being anonymous)

God, I wish that was me.

Yes actually, even playing video games is more fucking productive than responding to decade old bait.

Nice one thing that makes the game worse is how complex the routes are and that I need to be looking at the google document all the time for every decision it would be a big improvement if it was made more clear in the game or if you could simplify the routes a bit or maybe let us go back to stuff we missed making the game less linear.
I understand it might not be feasible but its what holds the game back from good to great for me
Thanks for your work

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Going back to revisit scenes is not a planned feature. The game has a tight schedule when it comes to the storyline delivery. I do understand that a bunch of content is hard to find unless you know how to get there; but that's what the map is there for! Stumbling onto such content by yourself can be fun by itself. This is just marketing talk for "I don't know how to fix it without making the game less of a CYOA". Sorry.

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Those are the best.

Unbased

Its cool I get it.

But why?

it's an american thing, people are very imbread there

>3D
Absolutely not. 3D is a fucking barren wasteland of the ugilest faces you can imagine. Stick to 2D porn games or written text ones.

>have discord rewards
>discord links to your site
>???
>profit

I'm so sick of seeing patreon links everywhere I look. Every no-name youtuber, tumblr artist, rpgmaker "gamedev" and their mother has a patreon set up.

What should happen is patreon make the default payment option once per content update to a maximum of X per month. Granted that'll cause people to spam versions that are basically unchanged

>about to post a screenshot of my lazy rpgmaker for a (you) or two
>this post shows up a second before I press submit
way to ruin my chance user

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Can somebody recommend a good western NTR game?

user, there is about 150 fags in this thread.
Just post your gobbos

That is already an option.

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Bully.
the NTR is so deep that felt my dick lost 3cm to become a pussy

>.15.1

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I have no problem seeing Patreon as a tip jar or a way to support people that you like. I have no problem with YouTubers that just put a list of names at the end of their videos. However, I hate it when Twitter and Tumblr artists use Patreon as a paywall. I hate it when an artist uploads a horribly compressed picture to Twitter, then shills their Patreon to see the "HD" version. Worse is when porn artists make a shitty clothed picture, then paywalls the nude version or any other edits. I'm fine with giving artists money for commissions or just tips, but paywalls make me want to pirate that shit out of spite.

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>gay
>scat

No thanks bro.

It's not officially April fools on Yea Forums till the mod trolling begins so you're just a dumbass

>soft

Weak

it's not even that bad you fucking weeaboos

I don't do 3d, my computer would probably die if I open a 3d modeler software

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It's technically on .17.5 but that really doesn't make it any better.

>roguelike
Patrician taste.
Laura fuckable WHEN???

for a rpgmaker, i see a lot of soul
show us more, user

i bet tgt and cwc's art arent bad either to you huh dumbfuck

i played this when you put it on /weg/ the other day and i would unironically recommend it. your sex anims are really hot. stop spamming it and work on it!!

do you have a link?

he just did

blog?

Taking out all the incest kinda seems pointless when its completely obvious whats going on by anyone playing it.

Whats this about, are there underage girls?

Obscure fetish porn games are the ultimate casual filter.
The only reason i still browse this god forsaken board is for the occasional stealth fetish thread that derails into porn game discussion.

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Now we're talking. Let's see some more boobos user.

anons, how do you feel about a kuruminha weg?

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Better artstyle than a majority of the shitty games people pay patreon bucks for. Good shit user, keep working

source?

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we already had a doujin so no thanks

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baseado e vermelhopillado

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What does /weg/ mean? I don't come here often

>soft
get out pansy

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This is the first time I post it on Yea Forums and I made an entire new map! I have to drawn like 7 more girls right now.

mega.nz/#!YgBU2A5T!gkpD8_4PioltoNA9W4r77pOPsw32J2F3SZ-Iwim6EVA

It's super hyper short like 2minutes, just fug the girl in pink and it's over, sorry. If I wasn't a terrible writer I would have made it longer. Prepare to cringe

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Western Erotic Game. Porn made by the non nips

Confesso que eu nem me daria ao trabalho de fazer em português, brasileiro para mim é merda.

its funny i keep seeing this posted everywhere but i never actually see the actual content. the people who have this really knows how keep their shit.

Honestly, I wonder at this point what would happen if you were to develop at double-time on Patreon Bux and completed your game within like, two or three months. Would everybody just immediately unsub and you'd lose your income until the next project? I'm sure it would be excellent for PR, because your fans know that you'll absolutely deliver, but the idea of giving people a reason to NOT work efficiently or rapidly sounds like a serious Monkey's Paw.

righteous. i wasn't sure if you were planning to continue it

No fim das contas todos os BR que estão nos chan sabem falar ingles.
Mas quem sabe um dia gifs do seu jogo porno podem cair naquelas propagandas escrotas de site porno!

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Ah can't wait for indie metroidvania #627

Agreed completely everything you have just said.

also refers to a thread on /aco/ by that name. but you should never go there.

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>Sameface saga
summertime saga is shit

:(

the patrons are usually thirsty fucks from third world countries who stole their moms credit card.

Writing is harder than art for most people that are good at both user, don't beat yourself up over it. Gonna download and check it out, as I said your artstyle is good

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>(slang for jerking off)

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>third worlders affording 5 bucks
one retarded post you got there

No.

is ruining EVERYTHING.

>make game about monster girls
>furries muscle in with their autismbux and take over

>I see a lot of porn artists use it.
I fucking hate this man. I just want commissions from decent artists but they all have patreons and don't want to do it.

sadpanda link?

it has completely obliterated the commission scene, this is true

Third worlders don't spend money on anything that isn't essentials. If they can pirate it or get something for free, they will.

t. brazilian

>patreon game is developed
>finished in 8 months
>artist immediately sets out to make another game that makes the last one look like shot
>releases substantially large first part in just a few months and continues releasing updates at a steady pace
its a furry game though

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Liking monstergirls but hating furries is a special kind of suffering. At least the japs still make games that cater correctly but almost all western games are doomed because of how furries corrupt anything they can into becoming furry focused.

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VIRUS, DON'T DOWNLOAD

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>Downloading something from Yea Forums
>ever

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don't be such a pussy

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Bait but still makes me laugh

wait why are you trying to get me to download it

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I'm not saying you should download it. It could be another LOSTBOY for all I know. I'm just reminiscing the possibilities of what comes from random download links on Yea Forums (mainly dolphin porn.)

Game is real. Got both the Yellow Shirt girl and the Pink Girl. Hope to see more OP, it's kind of funny. But I should've known I'd be the guy to be doing the NTR

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Wait a minute this art style

>IA, god rest its soul
IA better not be dead I swear to god

uh, nothing to see here, move on user

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What are you two on about?

Yeah it's hardcore dead. Artist wanted to move on and the devs want to focus on the game they can actually put on Patreon.

Can confirm, user didn't try to make my computer explode or give me dolphin porn, just the game

Still funny after all these years

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That's exactly what would happen. And it has happened on a few occasions for, admittedly, smaller projects. But more importantly, cemu. They were up past 25,000 USD a month, they started pumping out updates, botw was made playable, and... then everybody stopped paying. they're down to 5k a month (which is far from bad, but it's an 80% drop). People don't want to pay for something that they don't have to. So instead of actually working, they drip this content out, when in truth, things are already done.

>Scat
Y i k e s
>Gay
Are the guys at least fappable?

gimme a name, i don't mind furry

I could to that Rendition of Princess Carolyn, I've got a thing for milfs and they don't even have to be human tbqh.

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I just finished drawing a new map, so I'm going to start drawing new girls to add. Hope I can post it again on Yea Forums once I finish a few girls.
I will even release a html5 version on newgrounds since some people is afraid of random links, I can't blame them.

my nigga

Obrigado doutor

I wish you well on your game user, shit looks good and I hope you continue to work on it

Cause new engine or some shit. You can see it on the site unless is blocked by jewtreon

Thank you

Very defensive post user

would ironically fap to loser diane

Probably has one of the best mom routes in weg's, though the dev doesn't care to expand upon it now that it's supposedly finished.

This fucking pic

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How do these Western porn games even get so much money when their art is so bad?

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go away weeb

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Is he wrong?

(slang for jerking off)

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i have a theory that your art needs to still look somewhat amateurish to really get people off. patreon wegs are the armpit of internet porn so they need to feel grimy like they were scrawled during furious fapping to really feel authentic

there are a few pro artists with wegs but their stuff is always so polished and squeaky clean (content-wise too, no edge) that they don't do as well

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