>Crash N. Sane Trilogy >aesthetics changed in some levels but the majority of it is faithful to the original >music is great for the most part, minus some bad songs in Crash 1 and The Eel Deal >character designs are great minus N. Tropy >based Lex Lang >adds more content to Crash 1 and 2 to bring them up to par with Warped >entire game is on disk, and is a finished product
>Spyro Reignited Trilogy >most levels completely changed from what they were in the original, shitty skyboxes, fucking bricks everywhere >godawful music, at least you can switch to the original >character designs are drastically different from the original, way uglier except for Moneybags and Ripto >tumblr dragons >only one of the the games are finished, and only a third of the game is actually on the disk
>What the fuck happened to Spyro? NST was a low budget passion project. SRT was made just because Actiblizz wanted more money after Crash's success.
Ayden Bell
Not shitting on Crash, but his games are way simpler in comparison. They basically consist of hallways with the odd 2.5 segment. Spyro is more complex, and consists of like 30 free roaming 3D levels per game. It was easier for one company to produce three Crash games than it was for TFB to produce Reignited within the span of like a year. TFB had to hire all these other minor studios and independent artists to help out, which resulted in a too many cooks situation in regards to the aesthetics, on top of a shitload of bugs due to the rushed schedule.
Crash's games have to be downloaded on PS4, only the Xbox and Switch versions are all on the cart/disk including DLC
THANKS FOR BETA TESTING SNOYS
Parker Howard
This more or less. Also the concept artists were specifically encouraged not to be afraid of pushing things quite far creatively in our interpretations of each level. I always felt torn in deciding what the right balance was between just doing a boring 1:1 "uprez" of how I interpreted the original graphics vs completely redesigning the visuals to the point the level was almost unrecognisable. Especially on an insanely tight deadline when there wasn't really the time to experiment and go back and fourth.
Mason Garcia
>aesthetics changed in some levels but the majority of it is faithful to the original Funny that at release everyone was complaining that it did the exact opposite
Hunter Jackson
Needs more porn
Nathaniel Brooks
There is literally nothing wrong with that.
Samuel Johnson
>our >I >I
Oliver Perry
All I see is a perfect husband. I don't see the issue here.
Dylan King
>based Lex Lang Fuck off. Clancy Brown or bust
Cooper Rodriguez
Spyro > crash
Nolan Murphy
Yes?
Lucas Bailey
Okay buddy, sure *wink wink*
Jacob Smith
He genuinely might have worked on it, too. The guy who made all those custom models that got lambasted whenever they were posted here ended up revealing on his twitter that he actually had been hired by TFB and did a few of the NPCs.
Spyro is different with a lot of good in it, though it is unfinished and messy in places. N Sane is a straight downgrade besides the framerate, it's like a 2d game badly translated into 3d.
Leo James
They're both good. It's like comparing DKC to Mario, outside of both being platformers they're nothing alike.
That explains a lot. I still prefer the original trilogy as the charm and magic of the simpler models fit better for the games and atmosphere than the inconsistent pixar designs.
Adam Bennett
The dragons actually were going to look like the ones from 1, but then they decided to try and make them a little more unique, which turned out great in some cases and not great in more.
Activision greed obviously. Its really sad since there is zero reason for Spyro being in the state it is in too especially since the games before it were released complete and on disc.
Nah I only designed environments, didn't touch the characters. Although I do like a lot of what the character guys did, even the "tumblr" dragons lol.
Kayden Morgan
The thing is, the work proper is usually never objectively bad or ugly out of a few niggles, and the content is high quality. But without an extremely tight, consistent direction, and being extremely loose with those interpretations when people might want faithful reproductions in a 1:1 translation, just to a modern quality standard, it just sours the whole thing and sends the wrong message, and often times the new work doesn't live up to the eatablished identity of the original material. No matter how technically aound the new assets are, if it isn't as people remembered it in a scenario where they want to see an original vision faithfully reproduced, to them it's gonna look like shit.
Compare these trilogies to the circumstances and responses to stuff like the 343i Halo fiasco, and then the work being done for the System Shock 1 remake.
Liam Lee
Can someone please explain what makes the dragon redesigns inherently tumblr. They just look like fucking cartoon dragons to me
Hudson Jackson
>character designs are drastically different from the original, way uglier except for Moneybags and Ripto >tumblr dragons You need to fuck right off
Angel Nguyen
And often times including the case of these trilogies, it's a bit of both being a mixed bag. Some changes are positive and immediately justified but then others might destroy some perceived intent in the composition by the original designers and then bring the quality down for the rest of a scene and taint a person's experience. That's why I liken it to a painting. i'd rather play it safe and have an exact copy of a painting using all the same exact colors, just using new paint. If I wanted a new painting, I'd want something different entirely.
Camden Martinez
"tumblr" doesn't mean anything, but I think some of them are just fucking ugly. It's kinda up to personal taste. They all look fairly similar in the original, so there's nobody that really stands out too much, but now you've got all these radical zany designs that you'll either be drawn to or dislike.
post the flossing skeleton, I feel like that's probably aged really well
Robert Foster
Kinda begs the question why they didn't just make a new game entirely. Some of the levels look so radically different that they could have changed the layouts a bit and it would be totally new content. I guess that defeats the point of it being a remaster though, to guarantee sales from nostalgiafags and gauge interest for a potential actual new game.
Logan Cooper
Well that's Activision not TFB. I definitely would have preferred to work on a new Spyro game with that team instead of the remaster.
How much of a contrarian do you have to be to think this is soulless? There was clearly just as much thought & personality put into the redesigns as the original.
The flossing skeleton is the only true piece of cancer to come from the reignited trilogy.
Gabriel Cooper
I didn't mention any soul bullshit, I just said I think he's fucking ugly. I think a lot of them are, but a lot are fine too.
Does anyone have that FF7 fanart with character redesigned with switched skin color? Well, that's literally, *LITERALLY* what happened with Spyro's remaster
Ayden Morris
The biggest fucking problem with Spyro is that it's not on PC
>replaying spyro at 1440p 144 Hz >High fidelity audio system replaying that fucking amazing original soundtrack
I don't understand why they haven't released it on PC. Crash sold really well.
I'm assuming it's just timed exclusivity to drive up initial sales. Or it could be too much work for them to do another port right now, game's already got a shitload of bugs and general issues. We just now got a toggle for the awful motion blur after like 5 months.
Jonathan Gonzalez
I swear to god Activision better not pull some Epic Store bullshit with Reignited (It runs on UE4 for context). Might finally have a reason to pirate something if that happened.
Jacob Wilson
>What the fuck happened to Spyro?
They got one year to make the game, so they hired 3 separate studios to make it. Toys for bob made the first, airborn and other misc studios made the second, while Sanzaru made the third. It was a clusterfuck from the beginning.
>There is literally nothing wrong with the Spyro remakes. It's okay user we'll get you through this. We'll work through your damaged brain and shit taste together I promise.
Aaron Hughes
Does it add in the original roms? If not, then no.
Carson Barnes
As I understand, Crash also used its original geometry, while spyro's was not available and had to be recreated
Hudson Taylor
>music is great for the most part, minus some bad songs in Crash 1 and The Eel Deal This is a bold faced fucking LIE. Did we even play the same fucking game? The entire fucking Crash 2 and 3 soundtrack was PURE UNADULTERATED GARBAGE. Absolutely fucking nothing about the music was improved from the original game, Spyro wins in this category BY FAR.
they aren't downloaded, they just need to install, crash 1 is playable from as soon as the disk is put in. Only reason I remember is because I was too poor to afford internet bill when crash came out.
Lucas Carter
Guys, I figured something
>Nitros Oxide self-pities when he loses to you twice >Nitros oxide mentions how he will be a laughing stock >His societal position on Gasmoxia can't be high >Probably paid for his stuff by raiding planets >Facade of confidence as he Always puts you down >Race matters so much he cheats so hard he can't cheat more >bombing, poisoning and rocketing you >unlimited ammo on every powerup >starts illegally >uses an illegal vehicle >Probably bullies technological inferior planets to feel better >I get narcissism and childish vibes >his in-race quotes don't help
CHECKLIST! Below are the most common traits found in people with NPD: >An insatiable appetite for the attention of others >Extreme feelings of jealousy >An expectation of special treatment >Exaggerating achievements, talents, and importance >Extreme sensitivity and a tendency to be easily hurt and to feel rejected with little provocation >Difficulty maintaining healthful relationships >Fantasizing about their own intelligence, success, power, and appearance >An ability to take advantage of others to achieve a goal, without regret or conscience >A lack empathy, or ability to understand and share the feelings of others, and a tendency to disregard others' feelings >A belief that only certain people can understand their uniqueness >A tendency to consider themselves as skilled in romance >Responding to criticism with anger, humiliation, and shame >Seeking out praise and positive reinforcement from others >An expectation that others will agree with them and go along with what they want >Whatever they crave or yearn for must be "the best"
all but one…. ALL. BUT. ONE. wow man. Nitros Oxide is an insecure, narcissistic and greedy NEET that left his home to prove how good he is by bullying others in submission.
NItros Oxide - Darksydephil, mathc made in heaven.
All three Cortex themes, Komodo Bros., N. Brio's theme, Snow Go, Hang Eight, Toxic Waste, Future Frenzy, Dingodile's theme, Hang Em High, Under Pressure, Hot Coco, and all their corresponding bonus and Death Route themes are just a few of the songs I can think of that were improved in the new soundtrack.
William Bennett
DOOD! How was I supposed to know the Earthlings don't like death threats! fucking bullshit man!
Gabriel Parker
Yea Forums BTFO
Jason Myers
I do not agree with a single one of those, especially Dingodile who is just fucking neutered
Nathan Rodriguez
Clearly we won't convince one another. Since I'm right and you're wrong, and we both already know it, let's just stop talking about it and agree to disagree.
Hunter Johnson
bit too harsh for me, but I agree with you. Not as strongly as you, but Spyro DID DO BETTER IN MUSIC. That I only have Cortex's themes on my MP3 says alot. (call me zoomer, I prefer MP3 players over phones due size and hardiness)
anyone know why the fucking ANIMAL MOUNTS got into CTR, but Baby T. didn't get in (also a mount) N. Brio and Koala Kong did neither. why?
Grayson Myers
Completely ignore the broken physics in the crash remakes, why don't you?
Jacob Perez
>implying slightly different jumps that makes some platforming in 1 a bit tighter is "broken physics"
Jason Price
We're getting 15 new characters in CTRNF, so I'm guessing we'll get characters like that.
Alexander Hall
They changed the bridge levels from difficult to horse shit though.
Christian Flores
Moe and Brio got confirmed, Voice actor listing has these 2 attached to VAs. is that legit confirmation or just fishing though?
Ayden Gray
Why did Cortex make Crunch for Elemental imbue? Koala Kong is made by Brio, can't talk, intelligence questionable. Tiny is made by Cortex, far the strongest but he literally claws at Holograms. If only there was one that could talk, had moderate intelligence and strength and could handle weapons. That's a stretch though, Cortex didn't make any mutant with these traits! :^) would Dingodile instead Crunch make Wrath better?
Liam Collins
ice physics and especially fucking vehicles are pants on fucking retarded in the remakes
Christopher Clark
shut up, you never played the classics did you? momentum memory when a steel crate stopped you… fuck off.
Landon Edwards
Both of those were retarded in the originals too, don't lie to yourself.
