...but sort of the big thing, the new arrow we have in our quiver, really, is our ability to develop hardware and software simultaneously.
The positive thing about the Vive is, in addition to making sure that nobody created an iOS closed platform for it, was also that it gave us the opportunity to develop our in-house expertise in hardware design. Five years ago, we didn't have electrical engineers and people who know how to do robots. Now there's pretty much no project in the hardware space that we wouldn't be comfortable taking on. We can design chips if we need to, we can do industrial design, and so on. So that added to that.
We've always been a little bit jealous of companies like Nintendo. When Miyamoto is sitting down and thinking about the next version of Zelda or Mario, he's thinking what is the controller going to look like, what sort of graphics and other capabilities. He can introduce new capabilities like motion input because he controls both of those things. And he can make the hardware look as good as possible because he's designing the software at the same time that's really going to take advantage of it. So that is something we've been jealous of, and that's something that you'll see us taking advantage of subsequently.
Index didn't even come out user wtf did you set your time machine wrong
Anthony Foster
Onward (Counter Strike/Garry's Mod in VR) Sairento (Warframe in VR) Beat Saber that one Battlefield in VR game Budget Cuts (pretty much a Valve SP game in VR) Lone Echo Robo Recall some cool dungeon crawlers MechWarrior 5 soon
Stop lying
Colton White
That's just Vive 2.0. Same shit.
Julian Baker
>literally nothing but severely downgraded ports That's certainly not what he meant.
Chase Brown
I forgot to mention the iOS-like closed platform faceberg is trying to force too, seems like Gabe is the only sane gaming boomer left.
Grayson Powell
>Rec Room >VRChat I don't know how that's gonna work considering Rec Room chugs on a base PS4 and VRChat avatars are extremely unoptimised. The only port we've seen which looks severely downgraded is Robo Recall.
Is this list of worthless trash supposed to convince me or anyone otherwise? The only thing that sounds interesting there is Mech Warrior.
Blake Perez
>The only port we've seen which looks severely downgraded is Robo Recall. Then watch the entire video, everything looks horrible and runs at 5fps, exactly what you would expect from mobileshit. youtube.com/watch?v=ryvsAjCaKKk
The game footage is way way lower than 30 fps, they either recorded it wrong or that really is how the games run. That and they look like your typical mobileshit, why are people expecting miracles when we already know it runs on a snapdragon?
>In most VR porn the scale is totally wrong Fug. That's not even getting into resolution.
Mason Lewis
t. poorfag who hasn't tried VR even something as simple as Counter Strike but VR is really different. Being able to steal the magazine out of someone's hand as they reload, throw a knife, literally dive on the floor and peek around corners with precision? It's a very different experience.
Gavin Robinson
>standalone is the future of VR!!! >you don't need graphics or gameplay or more than 3 hours of battery life!! Reminder that all faceberg shills are completely braindead.
Are there any good VR porn games or is HS still the best thing we have?
Jaxson Allen
What is most likely to happen is that the position is asynced at 72hz while games will be constantly dropping to lower than that.
Oliver Watson
They need games. The hardware is, and has been fine, suitable enough for games. But there are no god damned GAMES. re7 is the only full game I can think of, and soon NMS, and both of those are psvr exclusive, which is significantly less powerful than most pc hmds. What's the fucking holdup?
Zachary Barnes
It goes without saying that no one gives the slightest fuck about this since it's just a throwaway thing for kids and it's not trying to pass off as an actual VR set like faceberg is doing with their glorified phone.
Matthew Bell
I'm pretty sure that the Gaming PC market is actually quite small, steam stats revealing that most PC's are pretty much toasters. It's an Impossibility for PCVR to go mainstream. If VR can't go mainstream, eventually companies will give up because there is no money to be made, and VR will die.
Quest (And to a lesser extent, PSVR) is really fucking Important, ease of use is really important.
Jacob Sanchez
NMS VR is coming for PC too. There are Bethesda's games too if you care about that.
Lucas Lee
Koikatsu VR mod is also pretty decent
Kevin Rivera
>yet another useless headset Lmao.
Evan Hall
>steam stats revealing that most PC's are pretty much toasters. Steam stats reveal that about 50% of computers have more than recommended specs for VR, the only real holdup is the lack of full-fledged games a wide range of people will want.
Brandon Jackson
They'll either be contantly dropping or constantly looking like shit to reach it. There's also Hellblade, Fallout 4, Skyrim, War Thunder, Subnautica, Elite Dangerious, Serious Sam 1/2/3, BallisticNG, Redout and a bunch of driving games.
You realize that even the integrated GPUs in the APUs for $100 are now capable of 1080p/30 max settings in a ton of games right?
Just wait until we see the new Navi architecture giving 1050Ti level performance in a $100 6-core/12thread chip next year. That'd easily power an Oculus/Vive gen 1 at 90hz
Josiah Davis
Not enough people are buying VR systems to warrant developers spending time on making games that work with the hardware. As a result, no one buys VR hardware outside of enthusiasts. It's a vicious cycle that will only be broken once some company who develops VR hardware comes out with a big game to pair it with. Looking at you, Valve.
Kevin Williams
oh it is? that's good to hear, all the stuff i've seen talking about it so far was about psvr, so I just assumed.
and the bethesda games aren't mod capable right? They might as well not even exist, plus they're all teleport bullshit. even doom. how do you have doom where you can't move fluidly.
Anthony Scott
There are some nice offers for FPS fans and racing game enthusiasts right now. But for most other genres the offering is zilch. For RPG, for example, you get ports from Bethesda for full scale games and that is about it.
Elijah Butler
Half-Life VR is practically confirmed to be a launch showcase title for Knuckles (which is coming with Index)
Jose Cruz
>and the bethesda games aren't mod capable right? They are, Skyrim VR is just SSE and almost all mods work with a few exceptions that usually have compatibility patches too.
Jackson Martin
isn't hellblade a third person action game?
Adam Kelly
Also you can play with sliding stick movement.
Hudson Gray
Yes, but it still works alright in VR
Henry Murphy
You should really look stuff up before posting. So far everything you said has been wrong. Bethesda games support modes and they don't require you to teleport. Doom had smooth movement patched in and Fallout and Skyrim had it at launch.
Hudson Murphy
Unless it's HalfLlife 3, that won't do shit for sales, and I'm pretty sure Gabe Newell has PTSD from his fans constantly berating him for Half-Life 3 taking so long so that's never happening.
Hudson Peterson
Half-Life has always been a technical showcase first video game second so you're delusional if you think a Half-Life side story wouldn't hype people the fuck up
Leo Richardson
Yeah, honestly surprised about that. Integrating VR is literally a few lines of codes to add to existing project. It should be one of those "click it if you really want it but don't blame us if it's not optimal" options like V-sync or Motion Blur, you don't even *need* to design the game around it for VR autists like me to be happy.
Adam Jackson
It's a pre-sequel set during the seven hour war. At least that what Tyler told me!
Xavier Morgan
I thought it was a side story with Alyx but I'm interested in a 7 hour war game too
Gabriel Wood
>Integrating VR is literally a few lines of codes to add to existing project it's more complicated than that
Robert Bennett
Won't Alyx and Gordon's voice actors be too old to work now?
>but I'm interested in a 7 hour war game too Hunt Down the Freeman already released.
Nathaniel Reyes
I actually just met Merle Dandridge at a Broadway play she was in. She hasn't been approached on anything Half-Life related in years but even if she had, she'd lie about it.
Luke Gray
Half life 3 will do to VR what Mario 64 did for 3d games -gape newell
>Really excited for the Quest >Trying to get ANYONE to talk about it is like pulling nails I want this thing to take off like a rocket with normies, then maybe more people will talk about VR in general.
Tyler Hernandez
>Really excited for the Quest I'm so excited for angry birds 2 too, I love phone games so much!
I mean most VR interest for casuals is going to be from trying it out at a friend's house Same thing happens with my old Vive, everyone who tried it didn't get it until they were in there and they have this weird click moment and stay in for hours
Matthew Fisher
Make a thread again when the VR headset isn't horribly uncomfortable, expensive and when there are games worth playing.
Dominic Edwards
Even in my 3rd world shitholes I can put up a vr capable pc for $500 with used parts (i7 3770 and gtx 1070). The problem is the headset. Vive is $800 here.
John Ortiz
Keep posting it, user!!!!!!!
Robert Johnson
Yes, but it works because you're not really Senua anyway, just a voice in her head observing and haunting her. It's pretty good in VR.
Alexander Sullivan
Difference is: >Oh man this is cool >Yeah it needs a gaming PC, also it costs all this money >Oh. Yeah nah.
And quest is: >Woah this is cool >Yeah it costs reasonable amount of money >Fuckin sweet bro
Also you can bring it around and show it to people. Normies loved the switch bro.
Luke Jones
Alright I'll make it again once this one is archived
Jose Hill
>Even in my 3rd world shitholes I can put up a vr capable pc for $500 with used parts (i7 3770 and gtx 1070). You really don't understand normies and what they like to buy.
Julian Smith
lol its so easy to spot the brainlets they bought an oculus rift or that stupid quest thing
Landon Hill
$2000 phone?
Aiden Cox
>there are no games to use it with except the entire steam library of thousands of games uhhhh
Jordan James
Sorry bud, but VR headsets are still expensive, uncomfortable and their game library exists of mobile game ports, tech demos and games that are simply more enjoyable on PC.
Let's skip ahead to the point where you say "b-b-b-but Superhot, Skyrim VR, Beat Saber, Gorn"
Trash games. Superhot and Skyrim are more enjoyable on PC than with a hot, uncomfortable mess on your face.
Evan Barnes
>listening to valve news network ever
Connor Baker
The only worthwhile VR game is Resident Evil 7, it's sad really.
Levi White
900 dollar phones on plans, because they are retards. It's not exactly comparable though, phones are not consoles. If building a 500 dollar pc is so easy, then why do the majority buy consoles?
Chase Bailey
>Our ability to develop hardware and software simultaneously >Valve >Developing software
>If building a 500 dollar pc is so easy, then why do the majority buy consoles? They don't? PC is as profitable as all consoles combined and that's only counting game revenue.
Couldn't you have fired at least 2 neurons together and realize that this is the first time they are releasing hardware since that quote, which implies a software bundle?
Lucas Jenkins
>FPS fans and racing game so you mean the only genres that matter
Nolan Lee
Steam is software, what's your point?
Kevin Myers
His reaction image is bigger, cleaner, and uses less storage than yours so he wins by default.
I'm going to ruin the smug posting to let you know that the VR version of Super Hot is a different game. The VR is better by default since it is the only version. Not knowing this suggests you don't actually have any experience with VR and your opinion doesn't hold much value.
