Should i get the i5 8400 for gaming upgrade? only 269$

>buying any Intel processor below the 8700k

Y I K E S

a pc

i have the amd fx 6300 and i know I have to get a new mother board plus ram

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Nigga, isn't the i5 8600k/9600k around the same price? Why get the 8400

350 for the 8600k

get an i7 8700

Shit m8, with that price you can get a new processor and a mobo, either the 1600, or 2600, and a cheap b450. Good luck.

>i5 8400
>gaming upgrade

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>buying anything but zen2

lmaoing @ ur miserable life

>Poozen
Smells like Pajeet in here.

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>i5
>$269

if you want cheap get ryzen

literally zero reason not to

>i5
but why

>8400
>269$
where do you fucking live, also depends on your current setup

what the fuck are you doing man. or real though, depends on your current rig- i'd consider prioritizing something else perhaps

A 9600k would allow you to upgrade to a 9900k years later when it's cheaper.

Zen 2 is the smartest choice, but waiting always sucks.

this

As a matter of fact I think the 10 core Comet Lake is coming for the same socket, so that's a pretty good upgrade path.

Think of it like first gen i7, which could be upgraded to a i7-990X which is even viable today almost a decade later.

Pajeet is better than a hook nosed kike, Shlomo.

What did you have before?

i have fx6300 and a gtx 970

>should i get the i5 8400 for gaming upgrade?

No. You are just wasting money. Save your money until you can buy a top-of-the-line CPU and a motherboard that can make the most of that CPU.

Can you afford an i9-9900K? Yes? Then start here - pcpartpicker.com/list/pr8WyX

Can't afford the i9-9900K? Then you want the i7-8700k. Start here - pcpartpicker.com/list/jsg429

Do not drop down any further in inferiority. If you are going to build a gaming (all purpose) pc right now, those are the only two CPU's to pick from. Anything less is a foot in the grave of obsolescence for your pc, and wasted money for you. You can skimp on the video card for now, knowing that you can always add a GTX 1080 Ti some day down the road. For now, you can go with an 8 GB RX 580 for less than $200 until you can afford the GTX 1080 Ti. And once you match one of those two CPUs with that 1080 Ti, you will have yourself a gaming rig that will make you happy for many, many years.

Depends how much you are willing to put into it. Generally I would say go for an i7 or an high AMD but if you are trying to cut corners (which imo isn't really a good idea) you can go for a lower AMD cpu to save yourself money. Most AMD motherboards are cheaper so that can save you money if need be. Mess around with partpicker and read up on the different AMD cpus.

>have to download windows 7 through a USB because Microkike breached anti-trust laws with hardware companies so it could sell your data easier to chinks at the cost of performance

i feel like im just going to go with the ryzen 7 2700x

What's going on with the new AMD stuff? I've been an Intelfag from the start but I'm looking to upgrade soon.
What about a 9700k? And I thought 1080 ti's were dried out.

You don't really need the x unless you really want that extra ghz

Single core performance is better on an i3 8100. If you want a i5 get a 8600.

Just buy the 9400F.

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>What about a 9700k?
Sure, that's a step up from the i7-8700k, of course. The goal is to start at the top or as close to the top when it comes to the foundation of your pc. Never skimp on the CPU. Always shoot for the top, whatever the top is at the time you build that pc. Then, you can save money on the other components but I like to spend a tiny bit more on the motherboard because I always go with a motherboard that can hold two video cards. In other words, my platform of highest-tier CPU and adequate motherboard will be capable of building up and out for years to come. I can add some cheap and slow RAM now and swap it out for more and faster RAM in the future for a relatively cheap way to upgrade. I can add an ordinary and cheap video card now and swap it out for a 1080 (Ti) in the future, and add another 1080 (Ti) for even more upgrade power. That way, I can get many years out of my pc before it hits a wall. At least, that's the way I sell them to people who are looking to save some money now.

Or, just save up about $1600 and put together a beast tonight. It's just a shame that RAM and video cards are so ridiculously overpriced right now. This pc should be $13000 if not for the distortions in the market. (fucking scam that is bitcoin) pcpartpicker.com/list/FkxCYT

>Locked cpu
Save your money user

>970 fucking exploded
>want to get a 2070 because the 70 series cards are usually the best performance/price ratio
>fucking six hundred dollars when the 970 was like 300something
Where the fuck are the competitors to drive this price down this is fucking insane, even the 2060 is more expensive than my 970 was at launch

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for that price you could literally just get a Ryzen 5 and B450 Mobo.

I'm in the same boat.

get the i7

I can understand wanting a top of the line processor, but two graphics cards are overkill

I have an i5 6660k running at 4.7GHz. When should I start considering upgrading it? I've heard that games in the near future will take all the cores you can throw at them and I'm worried 4c won't be enough.

The i5 9400f is great for it's price
Or maybe wait for Zen 2

>This pc should be $13000
I'm hoping this was a typo

>buying any Intel processor below the 8700k

I have a 2080ti and a i7-6700k clocked @ 4.6 I've yet to see any game bottleneck me on max settings. The need for a "gaming" cpu upgrade is very negligible if you have one that came out past 2014/15. Plus the higher res you go the more cpu usage drops.

same, the ryzen 2700 was just 199$ the other day and it's way better than the 8400, So I might just buy one of those when the price drops when ryzen 3xxx comes out.

Just use MSI afterburner with cpu and gpu usage enabled in the osd. If you start getting 100% cpu usage more often than you should then you're bottlenecking, if you don't then you don't need an upgrade.

>8400
>269$
You're two years behind, try the 9600K for the same price.

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wait a bit more for zen2, especially if you don't upgrade often. that i5 will literally be considered shit tier in a few months.

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Ryzen is the obvious choice right now

my mother just told me today that she bought a 'gaming pc' to play Stardew Valley...
I'm too afraid to ask how much she spent.

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>This pc should be $13000
>hoping this was a type

A typo. Correction. This pc should be $1300. The GTX 1080 should be priced somewhere around $400 right now. I paid $470 for this 1080 over two years ago - (pcpartpicker.com/product/63yxFT/evga-video-card-08gp46183).

And that would make this pc a $1300 pc - (pcpartpicker.com/list/FkxCYT), to which you could add a cheap 4K monitor such as - (pcpartpicker.com/product/yfx9TW/lg-27ud58-b-270-60hz-monitor-27ud58-b) and have a solid gaming pc in the top 3% of performance for pc's for $1600.

no, you shuldn't buy a incel processor in 2019

>8400
>$269
>non-K

Nope. Get a Ryzen 2600 for $100 less but similar performance.

>What's going on with the new AMD stuff?
New Ryzen generation supposedly coming very soon, which is why gen 1 & 2 keep going on steep discounts. Microcenter has had 1600s for $80 or less several times.

whatever you do never buy AMD. it has..issues to put it lightly

>RAM
>overpriced
It's been coming down to a reasonable level lately. $90 for 2x8 3000MHz is about the average, and that's pretty good, definitely better than it was a year ago.

Skip out on the RTX line for now. The 1070 and 1660Ti are about equal in performance, or you can spend an extra $50 or so for a 1070Ti and get a nice performance bump out of it. Any of those will get you reliable 1080p120-144 or 1440p60 for the next few years.

GPU i don't know but CPU wise Ryzen is currently kicking the shit out of intel in price/performance ratio and there's zero issue with them.

>got it 9600k
>still 100% on games like Kingdom Come in cities on high

Why even fucking bother with CPUs?

Still running an i5 3570k over here and it does pretty good.

>I can understand wanting a top of the line processor, but two graphics cards are overkill

The concept is longevity. Maximizing your dollars. In other words, the two cards are not for right now (unless you have the money, god bless). If you want to save money in the near term and save up to add upgrades in the future, you start with as close to the cutting edge CPU as you can get (whatever the cutting edge is at the time you begin to build your pc), and pair it with a motherboard that allows for extra RAM and a second video card (and extra drive storage if possible). That is your platform. Then, you build it out with lesser components for now. In other words, an i7-9700K with 16gb of 3400 MHz RAM and a GTX 1050 Ti will run most current games quite well at max settings and 1080p resolution. However, that combination might struggle with games released three or four years from now. That is when you might consider spending $500 on a GTX 1080 or so. And then that configuration may struggle in four years from then. That is when you might consider adding a second GTX 1080.

So, rather than spend $1000 or $1200 or more every three years to build an adequate pc, you can spend wisely up front to build a strong pc and save money in the long run by upgrading the same platform to a beast and get eight years or more out of a pc.

Unironically not enough coarz. Get something with hyperthreading or 8 physical cores.
Protip: look at min frames.

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SLI or Crossfire is dead and has always been a meme.
Devs have never give a shit about the tech, now more than ever.
Go for a strong single card setup from the start.

How important is the RAM frequency to match with a new CPU?

I don't want to change my RAMs (2400) just for that. Especially since DDR4 is expensive due to their artificial inflation.

either get a 2600 or wait for the 3000 series. Avoid Intel for CPU's right now unless you want to waste money.

For ryzen, the higher frequency the better
For intel, it's less true but you don't want slow ass ram either.

I have one, is that 269 USD? I'm pretty sure mine only cost me a little over 300 kangaroo dollars when it had just come out. None of the games I play have the thing anywhere near 100% usage at 1440p paired with my 1080, but your mileage may vary and if you actually give a fuck about doing shit that isn't gayming you may as well lose some single digit fps and buy a ryzen like these cunts are saying.

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Plus you talk about a new CPU, so prolly means you need a new mobo which mean new ram anyway.
what do want to upgrade to?

will my b450 be enough for zen 2?
I regret not getting a better mobo when I upgraded last year

kinda depends on which b450, but yeah it'll work at worst you just might have a lower oc ceiling but if zen 1 is like zen 2 they dont really oc that much anyway

Look on your manufacturer website if they have a new bios to support zen2 cpus
be aware tho that there is some problem with new bios and zen+ cpus with precision boost overdrive.
Better wait for things to be ironed out

>$269 for a fucking 8400
I got my 8700k for $300 and that was when they were just released. You can do way better, user.

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That's a very extreme case in min fps.

Is there anything I should buy right now if I plan on putting together a new computer when the new zen drops? I heard memory prices are dropping but are they or any other parts bottomed out? Anything I should buy now or whenever there's a sale instead of waiting until the CPU comes out?

Higher res doesn't magically drop usage lmao.

Get a 2600. Hell, for that money you could get a 2600X.

I'm a brainlet, how does that compare to similarly priced intels out right now?
Does the high end stuff in this chart provide that much over the 2nd highest tier for gaming considering their clock speeds are pretty close?

>buying already obsolete hardware
Nice purchase, dumbass.

AMD showed what was believed to be a 3600 engineering sample at a demo several weeks ago and it was neck and neck with the 9900k.

>tfw I got an i5 8400 for free as a gift
With a decent GPU is it at least passable for most games?

We can't answer this if you dont say what you're upgrading from, retard

Yeah, it's alright.

>tfw still 2500K OC'd up the ass
The legend never dies.

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It's actually a great cpu, but its price is what kills it.

>2600x and a mobo for 220 at Micro Center
Do I take this deal? I have a 1660 as a gpu

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The 9xxx series went under radar for some reason.

If you don't need to upgrade RIGHT FUCKING NOW, meaning you don't have a working system already, wait for the Zen 2 coming this summer. Even if you end up not getting those, you will be able to get much better deals for zen and some intel too. At least where I'm at they're already pushing bundle deals, no doubt it'll increase the closer Zen 2 gets since retailers need to get rid of old inventory.

Maybe your RAM is too slow for your CPU.

I have a i5 4590 and it's bottlenecking me like crazy and this is the cheapest I've seen the 2600x been.

It's a solid cpu and at that price it's a good deal, no doubt. I'm in a somewhat similar situation but I figure since I've been waiting this long, I might as well get the Zen 2 since it's so close now. Those cpus will be even better after all, and unlike new intel they won't rape your budget, either.

I want the upgrade to last for several years, and I'll only need to change the GPU in late 2020 maybe (got a 1070 right now).

Bruh, like 3-4 months until zen2. You buy 2600 now and I promise you'll regret it.

imho you have 3 choices

1660ti (literally 1 frame on avg faster than 1070)
used 1080
used 1080ti

Fuck you're right, I'll wait. I'll need a good one for Cyberpunk and the eventual RDR2 port

>live in 3rd world country
>ryzen 5 + mobo is cheaper than i5+mobo
>but you'll need faster ram with ryzen
>cost is now almost the same
What do?

>SSD and HDD combo instead of just getting a 1 TB SSD for the same price
>recommending a last gen card when you can get an RTX 2080 for the same fucking price
>shit ugly 212 cooler
>intel
nice meme bud

Is it possible to get a good 2080 build at 1500 euro?

>cheapest 1tb ssd is 90 bucks while you can get a 1tb 7200rpm hdd for 40 and a 120gb ssd for 20
>getting RTX cards instead of waiting for regular GTX cards

>Intel
Have fun being in a botnet

>buying a 120GB SSD
Off yourself.

Seriously, for the extra $30, 1TB SSD > non-persistent liveUSB >>> dog shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Satan's hairy balls > HDD + SSD combo

>people unironically buying amd

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>animefags unironically being retarded
Just like any other day, I suppose.

I got it for 190 Merkel shekels 4 months ago

Imagine being a brandwhore. You're just like those applefaggots.

I bet you bought the rx 2080 you faggot

>go check out /g/'s /pcbg/
>nothing but amd shills
god damn

To be fair ryzen is pretty great

I'm still running with a i5 2500k, for many years now. I suppose I should upgrade sometime though Im debating whether to wait a few months though

how hard is it to overclock a cpu? i have a 4690k but its stock im thinking i could probably get a couple more years out of it if i OC it

Can you air cool an i9? No overclocking

2500K to zen 2 is a kingly upgrade, don't accept anything lesser.

Yes, wait for zen 2

It can be done but it requires a high-end air cooler at stock settings, and forget overclocking.

The RAM issue is supposedly fixed in Zen 2

>poorfags
Poorfags will never understand the feel of opening an i9 box

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Intel has only been putting out overpriced trash in comparison to amd. I'll wait for zen 2 and maybe upgrade then, but Intel has their head so far up their own ass they don't even know what they're doing anymore. It's exactly the same that happened with amd after they release the x4 960 series or all their graphicscards up to rx series. They went through a phase of utter, unusable trash. Now it seems to be Intel's turn.

Not quite. The IF clock is still dependent on the memory clock, but (hopefully) Infinity Fabric has been improved enough that it won't really matter.

Yes, but you need a pretty good air cooler. Something like pic related.

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Wait for Computex

It reduces the draw calls on the cpu since you're going to be getting less fps at higher res. The only scenario it wouldn't is if you had a rig capable of of 144f+fps @ 4k which would be insanely expensive. The logic is as frame rate drops off due to increased res the demand on the cpu also drops.

If you don't want to invest a tiny bit of time, just type in a number in bios and see if it works. If you actually care about pushing it, type in number, run stress test, if it crashes change voltage, if it doesn't and it's stable you're done. Repeat process if you want higher oc after finding stable oc.

2070's on amazon/newegg/pcpartpicker literally under $500.

You just said the same thing as me.