Does Sekiro even come close to topping this one?

You're thinking of Sigma 2 as the bad one.
Sigma 1 is literally just Black with better graphics and more content and for some bizarre reason removed intro CGI and replaced with a text crawl instead.

The daddy of all Ninja Gaiden games is the first one for NES

>NGB still BTFOs DMC5

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Joe Musashi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ryu Hayabusa

NGfags are the most insufferable on Yea Forums. They like to pretend their game is untouchable because it was an OG Xbox release and nobody can argue because nobody played it. If it ever got a PC port to be more accessible it's be forgotten tomorrow.

Lots of Ninja Gaiden threads lately.

>most of the bosses are forgettable
>last few levels are complete trash
>Flying swallow , Izuna drop trivialize the game
Only reason Yea Forums doesn't shit on it is because no one played it or they only finished 2 by spamming UTs. It's certainly better then Bayo shit and GOW shit tho and the bosses that arent forgettable are kinda cool. The series has literally no personality whatsoever tho, people call Bayo cringy but at least she has something going for her character and plot wise

Best part is them pretending like Black is somehow better than Sigma when Sigma is literally the exact same game with more content and cancerous water levels redesigned to be less cancerous.

>t. never made it to master ninja

sad
you can buy the game for like 5 bucks and it's 360-compatible

Cause fromdrones and Smash autismos

It's fully emulated and downloadable from XBOX Live marketplace. Playable on XBOX One and XBOX 360. It's on Game Pass, too.

Anyone know if it's emulated on Windows 10?

Sekiro is a better Ninja game but a worse game game. Ryu is about as much of a ninja as Raiden and Naruto are

You are so insufferable.

Can you even talk about this game in any capacity besides shit flinging and e-peen stroking? Because i have literally never seen you do it.

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Not yet but latest Windows 10 preview build has added preliminary support for Xbox API basically confirming we're getting Xbone games on PC.
In fact that test build comes with free Xbox One version of State of Decay that works natively on said Win10 build.
It's 1:1 the Xbone version of the game that it downloads through Xbox Store, playable on Win10.
Microsoft is changing Xbox from a console to a service, that's why they are doing all that groundwork and partnership with Nintendo.

and sekiro is?

He's right. DMCV isn't even the best DMC game.

Sigma's new content is boring padding. The Rachel shit is okay but a clear step down from the rest of the game. It also removes the light puzzle solving.

>unironically wanting Resident Evil puzzles in a fucking Cuhrayzeh game
You're legit a retard, and Rachel levels are still objectively better than slow swimming down the same 10 minute long corridor for the 10th time.

>Ninja Gaiden
>Cuhrayzeh

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It's not one of your faggot CUHRAYZEE games you ADD-ridden faggot.

Gotta love contrarian BLACKED monkeys.

Is there a Barry that exists for Ninja Gaiden? Because all this false flagging shit really makes NGfags look bad

A true ninja game is more like Tenchu in my opinion. Ninja Gaiden is more an action game about a ninja.

Take your meds.

sigma 1 also makes the game trivially easy and simplifies the designs dramatically. It's the worst version of the 3.

I don't know who Barry is but OP is an absolute faggot and the reason we can't have NG threads.

Sigma-kun. He spams the same pictures of the girl characters and pretends RE wasn't putrid dogshit.

Wolf/Sekiro isn't exactly completely ninja accurate but at least he's sneaky and uses actual shinobi tools/techniques where as Ryu only vaguely moves like one. His NES design is more ninja like than any of the Xbox games designs for him

Back in the day, NGB faggots would get clowned on for their faggy skeleton game

based as fuck!

>actual shinobi tools/techniques

oh you're a fucking idiot, i see it now. Carry on then.

But it's on Xbox One too?!

Is he the same guy that thought Kasumi/Ayane were Tecmos mascots and not ryu?

Can you explain why he's an idiot? I'm curious if you know stuff about ninja or what your thoughts on what ninjas are supposed to be like

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Not even another Ninja Gaiden?
Seems sad the series would be doomed to inadequacy.
No wonder they haven’t even tried to make a 4

rest in peace lady

2 is a close second but a lot of the design choices are pretty fucky and unfun, even for a series known for being fucky and unfun

I like Sekiro but hell no, Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 are the best action games.

New Shinobi game when , I need Joe , Hotsuma and Hibana back for the love of god.

I just beat NG+ for Sekiro yesterday. Overall, no. NGB is just as if not more dangerous and is more rewarding because it's not really rock-paper-scissors or simon says like Sekiro, it allows you to truly embrace and experiment. What experimentation there is in Sekiro is limited.

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Just feels very weird to have a series apparently peak so early.
See this feeling with Megaman 2 and X and it’s disheartening to see all future efforts be unable to surpass their forebears

Ninja Gaiden 2 is NES levels of unfairdifficulty at times, speaking strictly about Master Ninja Mode, but that and the insanely fast paced violence makes it all the more better to beat, it won't ever be in the conversation for most balanced action game, but it's still the hardest and most fun.

Do i need explaining? Are ninjas known for having fucking prosthetics and flame throwers? It's just some nonsense he came up in his head to justify his bias.

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>shuriken used more as utility then anything else
>poison blade also for utility
>can use all kinds of items to disorient the enemy
>serves under a Lord

All more than I can say for Ryu

I tried playing Tenchu 3 today and it did not hold up well at all, i actually lost interest immediately and Tenchu 2 is one of my favorite games.

Now I love NGB but calling it a ninja game is just dumb, nothing you do in the game has anything to do with being a ninja, not even being sneaky... Sekiro at least has that part right. If there is a daddy of all ninja games then it would obviously be the tenchu games

Sekiro is literally MGR levels just slightly better, the only people creaming themselves over it are people who haven't played many action games and only fromshit. Its still fun though so I'd recommend it, but top tier it is not.

and now you've outed yourself as never having played Ninja Gaiden, good job.

I've got a copy of Ninja Gaiden (the original) but I've never touched it, how does it compare to Ninja Gaiden Black?

Based Shinobi chads

Nothing has topped NGB. It's the only combat action game that emphasizes efficient killing. It doesn't have stupid combo videos like in Bayonetta or DMC. Enemies are ruthless and you actually feel like a bad ass ninja thanks to the creative movesets.

Can based anons post some NGB gifs/webms?

Ryu's village got wrecked by demon worshiping ninjas. He's out for revenge. He's a super ninja with ninja magic and unparalleled crossfit fitness.

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>nobody
Sounds like you’re the only nobody here

I love Sekiro, but that's a ridiculously high bar you've set there

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what do you guys think of this game never played it but looks cool

youtube.com/watch?v=oNL64sa5MWg

>Just feels very weird to have a series apparently peak so early.
The problem is the director left, and while Team Ninja still have tons of talent they don't seem to have a clear vision (or at least confidence in) what they want to do. DOA6 saw them flip-flopping constantly and Nioh, their recent big success, was floundering in development hell until they decided to aoe Dark Souls.

stop being a revisionist cuck, you worthless snoy nigger

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But what's the difference between Sigma and Black? Why Black is better? PS3 remaster (Sigma) looks like absolutely the same game.

NG2 > NGB

that's true
also NG3 RE > NGB/Sigma

lolno

Cope.

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Found the shitter that never played bayo or ng2

>uses explosive kunai, a great sword, staff ,nunchaku, wears black , overly combative, Izuna drop , overall moveset is ridiculously over the top

It only gets worse when NG2 is thrown in there where he's more super human than how he was in NG1

>oatmeal cookie-san probably isn't even capable of a NG comeback like Itsuno just did with DMC

Feels bad

Automata is better than Rising. W101 is shit. DMCV is mediocre and 1/3 of the game is legitimately unfun.

>Why Black is better?

It's not

BLACK

>2 more costumes for Ryu
>1 more cg cutscene
>1 platform section has a lever puzzle
>Ziggurat activation is one by fighting a couple of regular enemies in 2 adjacent rooms
>Can throw 2 explosive shurikens after wall jumping

SIGMA

>Improved graphics, not just resolution but character models and levels redone
>new weapon, 2kat
>New playable character, Rachel
>3 new chapters for Rachel
>Hairstyles for Rachel
>3 new bosses
>new enemies
>previously mentioned cut scene was replaced with playable section
>new playable section
>1 more enemy challenge
>Longbow can now be fired mid air, tracking improved on 3rd person firing
>double explosive shuriken from wall jump removed
>1 or 2 more Dragon Statues and Muramasa Shops
>Ziggurat activation is done by fighting 3 consecutive Berserkers
>more music tracks
>extra missions
>Survival mode DLC*
>Time attack mode DLC*
>Rachel mode DLC*
>Smaller health bar in Eternal Legend mission

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NG2 is potentially more fun then black but only if you don't pay attention to the flaws

>Automata is better-
lol
>1/3rd of the game is legitmately unfun
You clearly have never played 3 or 4.
Probably 5 too for that matter.

now that i know you literally never even played the game i'm not gonna talk to you anymore.

>ninja realism

Retarded underage

Shitty fucking opinions

Automata is genuinely terrible.

>If you have the money to afford a decent computer
>doesn't say just go buy a fucking cheap xbox.

The games will be well worth it.

>NG3 RE
>anything but shit

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>outfit is called combat ninja gear
I guess Samurai Gaiden doesn't sound as cool

Automatas combat is somehow even more shallow than rising and while all of Risings effort went into spectacular bosses that make the game worth playing Automata made it's only selling point a story you can just watch on youtube

HI Sigma-kun. Rachel stuff is garbage, Sigma us easier, and the cut content is sorely missed. Sigma 1 is a clear downgrade.

Sekiro is the best game ever made.

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You can wrongly shit on Automata all you want, MGR is still a shallow, easy turn only good for a few boss fights.

They're not even similar games, you stupid shit. I doubt you've played either.
Stop trying to generate fake controversy between two games not even in the same genre, you attention-deprived sack of diabetes.

>only good for a few boss fights

Meanwhile Automata is only good for jacking off to 2B

Yes, you low functioning faggot

Cope.

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Black is refined, perfected version of the original game. It's like MGS3: Subsistence.

Sigma is the ported version on PS3.

The problem with the Sigma ones was that Itagaki wasn't involved with them and they censored some stuff because Sony or Tecmo wanted a more mainstream experience for casuals and Japanese kids.

They censored blood splatter and maybe titty jiggling.

Black = Itagaki's redux of original with DLC (when very few had XBOX Live) and other stuff. Added Ninja Dog and hardest mode, too.

Scorpion is Unironically more of a ninja then Ryu ever was was

this. literally nobody that is sane and has good taste in games think ng is better than sekiro or any other ninja game

I feel as if I have seen this exact same post before

>retards comparing an action RPG to a pure action game

even though OP is a massive fucking faggot, Sekiro is an action game

Sekiro is literally MGR with less options and more broken stealth mechanics.

this but unironically. sekiro is definitely a contender for best pve combat in a game yet

It's an action adventure game.

what does that mean?

I wasn't being ironic.

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NGFags might be obnoxious but Fromfags are way worse, ngfags rightfully have a good game that has arguably hasn't been topped (though NG2 if my personal fav). Fromfags like to jerk themselves off to babby's first action game to the point where there were threads today about percentages of people who complete the game. They are the biggest example of fellating themselves over a middle ground titles.

DmC DE is better then MGR

Ninja Gaiden is a Chara Action game and Sekiro is a Tenchu with good combat

>there are people who think that is unironically better than youtube.com/watch?v=eTIwXXkj2xo
I want zoomers to leave.

I miss it if only for an action game that is actually hard. DMC5 is so easy it's boring.

Sekiro feels like its a tenth of a game NGB is.
Sekiro is only better artstyle wise.

Sekiro is peak vidya.

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All those additions are fucking pointless when the game feels too casual

Define to me what an action adventure game is.

and no, Sekiro is not Tenchu.

And better controls, better environments and much better music and characters. Also a grappling hook.
Hell, it's not like MGR at all.

>It has to be better than something else to be good.
Keep comparing a fast-paced action game with a stealth/action game with a slower pace, you dumb fuck. You're a fucking embarrassment.

A game that takes elements from both action and adventure games.
It's in the name.

>They censored blood splatter and maybe titty jiggling.

There's more to Sigma 2's cuts than that, it's practically a different game to the Xbox version.

Are you samefagging? You must be since it's the MO. Those are all and the ONLY differences.

so you literally can't. Cool, opinion discarded.

>hurr durr, not the same genre, that makes it okay to be boring and dumbed down
Do you just invent a new genre for every game you want to defend just so you can avoid comparison with clearly superior games?

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The grappling hook only exists to make killing enemies with glorified batman executes easier. Music in MGR is way better, the prosthetic arm weapons are pretty much the sub weapons in MGR. Posture is literally zandatsus.

As i said, sekiro is slightly better than mgr and the environments are nice, but pretending its some god tier new combat system just shows how little vidya you've played.

>action game that is actually hard.

Remember when we were in the PS2/Xbox era and we had DMC3, NGB, NG2, Chaos Legion, Shinobi, God Hand...etc

Not saying DMC5 is bad, but the satisfaction from beating them isn't there.

Cope.

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>hurrdurr sekiro has the greatest pve combat evar
>Okay but this is way better
>hurrdurr stop comparing action games to action games
zoomer please leave.

>Remember when we were in the PS2/Xbox era and we had NG2?

No, i don't.

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>2 button combat
>better then anything

Oh shit, yeah, nevermind that one. It's the hardest game in that list though

>I played dmc on easy mode and it wasn't hard to beat
wewlad. The amount of people who beat dmc on DMD and HnH are 3.2% and .5 % the amount who have S'd the game is even less. I love this brainlet meme.

>the satisfaction from beating them isn't there.
That's called aging

Metal Gear didn't even have good bosses. Parry, qte, wonky blade mode stuff, all while shitty Sonic Adventure music blares in the background. They weren't even challenging until the senator.

God it's so not fucking fair that that game will never be re released

NG2 is harder than NGB, Bayo in NSIC is harder than Black.

>Cope

With what?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Gaiden_(2004_video_game)

What now you dumb fuck?

>he switches the most badass track in NG2 for castlevania music
unacceptable
m.youtube.com/watch?v=AMnyDgQMDx0

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NG2 combo videos are fun to watch if they weren't all taken down by jewtube

Based.

It's the easiest game in the series.

>It's boring and dumbed down
Compared to what? It's not even in the same ballpark as Ninja Gaiden, you fucking idiot. The pace of both games is much different, and the combat mechanics as well. Ninja Gaiden is focused on movement and combat, while Sekiro is about timing.
You can't shit on a game because it kicked your ass, you retarded faggot. Comparing it to something completely unrelated is a pointless waste of board space.
It exists to traverse the bigger environments, and exploring every possible angle before going in. MGR is a pure action game, and wile the parrying mechanic is similar, that's where the similarities end.
That's retarded hyperbole, fuck whoever wrote that. Ninja Gaiden Black is probably the greatest action game of all time, but it also has its issues. Also fuck you for even trying to compare them.

Not when Ninja Gaiden 3 exists

Bayonetta has an emphasis on efficiency and aggressive enemies too though, you literally get a bonus for killing enemies quickly. Did you even play it?

youtube.com/watch?v=5pdN3I1lMn0

Who was luckyenough to try parries in Ninja Gaiden Vanilla?

You seriously think DMC5 is harder than DMC3? Okay.

Perhaps, I'm willing to test that theory if I can get a cheap 360.

>Bayo in NSIC is harder than Black.

Hell no. NSIC is way too forgiving in comparison.

Absolute Madman, most people won't get past the first room of the entire game with the IS Ninjas on MNM imo.

i don't understand why people glorify dmc3. switching weapons just wasn't very engaging gameplay, and mook enemies took way too long to kill. 1 and 4 are objectively better games.

the problem with sekiro is you can tell the opening level's design (as seen in ) was supposed to be the main flavor of the game, then every subsequent level abandons the stealthy layout and feels like budget dark souls areas because it was too hard to design clever layouts

Devil's Third is better than most people give credit for. It just needed MUCH more polish.

Better than Ninja Gaiden 3 and Yaiba.

I know you're going to get shat on, but I agree. I love that series to bits, but 3 was my least favorite after 2.

Bayonetta also added stuff like dodge offset to the genre and has much much better enemy designs (mechanically and aesthetically) than DMC5. I think it's still the best in the genre, less said about Bayo 2 the better though.

NG3 is harder, you scrub

>4
Unironically rethink your taste

I don't count Ninja Gaiden 3 since RE effectively replaces it.

>you think the game is boring compared to more skill-focused games
>THAT MUST MEAN THE GAME IS 2HARD4U HURR DURR

You must be fucking new

Not so fast zoomer scum! youtube.com/watch?v=AfZrLMHuY4o

also this

Sekiro has some of the best level design i have seen

I don't think you've made it very far into the game, there are plenty of cleverly laid out stealth areas throughout the game. Just because the guards aren't forming a line, facing away from you and completely isolated, it doesn't make it not a stealth layout. It's your job to distract guards and hunt them efficiently, using the tools given to you.

Your kinda right.
Ryu is less of a ninja and more of a walking natural disaster. Everywhere he goes bodies fly in his wake.

What an acomplishment.

Also it's not better than vanilla NG3, at least that game looks great.

Y'all gonna' shit on me for this but Razor's Edge made NG3 pretty fun, it wasn't as hard as NG2 sadly but the 'Bone on Steel' chaining mechanic was much better than chaining UT's and the girls were actually fun to play in this as opposed to in Sigma 1/2. Also, that Masked dude was a god tier boss with god tier music.

This.

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Play more games man. Sekiro and FF13 are not the pinnacle of level design.

It's better than Yaiba (most things are) and probably better than 3, but not better than razor's edge. It's a damn tragedy what happened with Itagaki, but that game was an unfinished piece of shit.

god i just want another game like god hand so fucking bad

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How they gonna' make such a cool looking boss and make him absolute shit to fight, that's Bayonetta 2 in a nutshell actually.

It requires a different skill set, which you obviously lack. Otherwise there wouldn't be dozens of threads a day crying about its difficulty.

Ninja Gaiden Razor's Edge on Ultimate Ninja is contender for the hardest game in the series if not THE hardest while vanilla 2 is undoubtedly the easiest.

Heh... kid, back in my day all we PLAYED was NJB... You think these Sekiro kids know about action games? Please...

Saha is a better boss than the game ultimately deserves.

It should be noted though, Saha was in the game when it was still a THQ title. So he wasn't a late addition or anything.

This.

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RE was solid. I didn't like it as much as 1 or 2 but it was still a fun game. Bosses had inflated health pools though which made them a slog.

ah yes who could forget the linear mountain grapple region
or the boddisatva valley where you can skip everything just by grappling over it
or the monk mountain where you can skip 90% of it by just grappling over it and wading through the grass

the opening area actually forced you into some form of encounter that you can take on a few different ways, all of the other ones just put enemies in clusters

I've beaten the game twice, the best levels are the first one and the divine realm in that order, because they feel strategically aware of themselves
everything else it hit or miss

>combat is action games aren't inherently about timing
>sekiro is more about timing than Ninja fucking gaiden
This is the dumbest post this evening, thanks.

God Hand >>> NGB
As a matter of fact, God Hand might be the best game to ever exist.

I can almost guarantee that i played more games than you.

I've been over this with you annon, posting the exact same fucking webm of you jumping and pressing R1 with ten billion years of a tell is not peak vidya.

God Hand is barely better than NG3. Cloverfags need to be gassed.

ninja gaiden has combo videos though?
its just that NG combos are limited as hell.

>qtes
>schmup and vehicle segment
>Jeannes the only good boss
Kamiya needs someone to reign him in when making games

God Hand is one of the worst games i have played.

What you want to compare numbers or something? Should I whip out my dick and measure that too?

>God Hand might be the best game to ever exist.
This.

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*cracks*
*sips*
m.youtube.com/watch?v=QJSYofz2NVE
AHHHHHHHHHHH

NGB is the top if its genre man. No it does not top it.

Clear some 2D arcade beat em ups like Final Fight and Violent Storm on 1 credit then. Maybe The Takeover is decent too but I never tried it.

Looks like a shittier version of the new God of War

IGN go home

Even moike kobe thinks DMC3 and NG are better then God hand

DMC3 has the worst DMD mode and the only enemy that is even slightly annoying is lust. The difficulty meme is just parroted information. 4 and 5's dmd modes are way better and DMC 5 is overall a better game.

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I don't even remember what UN was but there's no way NG2 was easier than NGB, NG2 was literally cheap as fuck at times.

It was mainly the Steel on Bone mechanic I liked, because it made you gameplay flow IIRC all about amputating as many people as possible then dodging their grab to intitiate the SoB attack and then chaining that as many people as possible, it was more engaging than Charging a UT then hopping off people to do the instant on landing UT chain imo.

Perhaps, but the bosses weren't bad at all. I find them much more fun to fight than the literally whos in DMC5.

>DMD is hard
love this meme

>immediate QTE
>select attacks from a menu
Please tell me the game doesn't normally play like this.

Source? If so then hes a retard desu

>immediate QTE
Discord trannie spotted.

Sekiro is the first action game I enjoyed since NGB and NG2.

I want to compare? ME? Wow amazing, bravo.

>4 and 5's dmd modes are way better

4's is, 5 is marginally moreso, I never said DMC3 DMD was good I just said it was the hardest, and you're just severely downplaying it bigtime, bosses alone in DMD put it above 5. And the only good DMD is DMC1's.

I only care that it's good. Being 1/10th NG is better than a lot of modern games.
I got DMC V but overlooked Sekiro. It's getting good word of mouth. Gonna get it sooner rather than later because of the word of mouth.
Thought it was gonna be a Souls clone. But then I hear it isn't. More like Zelda.

I was just wondering if it was NG tier.

Thats a special move that uses up a very limited resource and theres no QTE just a grab prompt which the player ignores. The hardest challenge mode in the game, kick me sign, also removes your ability to use those special moves you see in the menu and forces pure fundamentals.

its funny you always see webms of crazy combos from DMC but never NGB. i've never seen 2.

>Thought it was gonna be a Souls clone.
We knew it wasn't a Souls game two years before release.

Well do you? Because at this point I know its going to be a pain in the ass for both of us.

just looked at the takeover
what the fuck is that artstyle

Bayo bosses are all spectacle over anything else. ((((epic)))) giant monster fights that for the most part play the same. DMC5s only shit fight is Gilgamesh and maybe Malphas

Well it is. It is a lot cheaper but that doesn't stop it from being easier.

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Well its got aggressive tough enemies and a focus on efficient kill if you fight groups...but everything can be made easy with stealth or special attack cheese. Beyond that its a game about constant aggression and deflect timing. All you do really is keep attacking a boss and learning their moved to get perfect deflects which lower their stamina, needless to say it can get repetitive but its way better than Souls' roll n spank thats for sure.

Okay that doesn't sound bad then. The clip is kind of misleading.

Based.

I wasn't keeping up with its development. I was looking forward to other games, wasn't really high on the wishlist or radar.

Game is getting a lot of post launch word of mouth.

streamable.com/elg14
Should give you a better idea.

NGB webms are always the gameplay demos because no on Yea Forums is good at NGB.

Nigga you're the one who started this.

Art style is trash but its an indie game so what do you expect. If you insist on playing new games instead of classics, Fight N Rage is a very decent one and looks alright once you disable the cancerous CRT filter and bloom.

Why not try it for yourself?
He is just stylin' on the final boss. You would be dead 10 times before you get the free damage prompt.
There is very little damage dealt in the webm

I liked Malphas quite a bit desu. Agree that Bayo's boss fights are shit tho. Bayo 2 on Switch especially is shit in hand-held mode with all the VFX being barfed onto the screen.

DMC 1 was the only one to do DMD right

The year is 2019
God of War is still overhated

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Nigga you stated you think Sekiro, the hall way sim of Souls is the best level design you have ever seen. Now fuck you, I gotta go my basement and get some shit to give your ass an estimate. That you will one up anyways no matter what I come up with.

red queen and blue rose > all other weapons in all other games, purely for revs and charges. way more engaging gameplay.

No, you watched a youtube video while doing other shit, then googled a later level. This clearly makes you an expert on the subject that everyone should listen to.

Only Chads like me can beat the OG Ninja Gaiden with no deaths.
And by Chad I mean absolute fucking loser.

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Bayos more about the regular enemies. Giving bosses their own chapters was a good decision since you can just ignore them when replaying

Because NGB isn't about 'crazy combos', the enemies actually fight back and you're aiming to cut them down. That said, people have forced a square peg into a round hole and made loads of combo vids of NGB/2 and just like the MGR ones people have made, they kinda' suck ass.

>Bayo bosses are all spectacle over anything else.

But that's Bayonetta 2, not Bayonetta 1. Just because the bosses are huge means they're a spectacle, they're still more fun to fight than the runaway shits in 5. Malphas is my particular hated one, despite looking like a DmC reject her teleporting all over the place is unfun and when you get her to stop she has a shit moveset.

We'll have to agree to disagree there, that mission where you go to the Hayabusa village again for the Eye upgrade (IIRC), that imfamous level IMO more harder than any part of NGB.

It got you angry enough that you couldn't type a coherent response, so it's probably not the dumbest post of the evening. What are you even trying to say? Is English your 7th language?

Bayo 1s boss music is Kino tho foe. Baldurs theme is Kino and the fight is at least different where as 2s boss ost is literally nothing and masked lumen just sucks

I didn't realize i was speaking to literal child, i would accept your dick measuring challenge now but i don't want to get into trouble. Run along you little scamp

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Switch DMCV and God Hand and I'll agree

Vergil is the only fight worth talking about, also its good to point out that DMC3 was most people's first action game so it makes sense but the idea that the bosses were above and beyond especially when arkham,centipede and nevan exist is hilarious. Cerberus and agni and rudra were passable but really easy.

Also action games are not judged by their bosses, that is the brainlet way of understanding them. It is objectively harder to fight multiple enemies over one enemy. Action games are at their peak with moment to moment enemy encounters. Which DMC5 beats 3 for in spades.

Nero is fun to play but let's be real, his combo video potential is absolute garbage. He has one weapon, very little moves and everytime a player kncks an enemy away and snatches them back it looks so fucking bad and doesn't flow at all, and they do it several times a combo. Even his Devil Breakers don't make his combos look cool. Again, fun as hell to play but Max-Act feels better than it looks. Compare this to Dante's CV where every one looks almost totally different.

>NG2 combos
>bad

God of War is all about spectacle. Unfortunately people compare them to games that have other priorities and complain that they don't measure up. GoW was never about crazy combos or upping your score/rank like DMC and Bayo, not was it about survival and efficiency like NG. It did its own thing and did it well

I sincerely hope you're not a waifufag in your 30s, that'd make you a subhuman desu

Unless you are talking about Sekiro only, the Souls games are not "action games," they are more adventure/RPG.

That being said, Sekiro of course is not as good as Ninja Gaiden.

Nice projections faggot. Excuse me for not having space to dedicate rooms to my hobbies.
Anways. the number is around 800 I guess, fuck if I know, I only physically have about 300 cds left. Half way through the PS2s life cycle I lost everything prior. I'd kill a man to get my Genesis collection back.

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GoW doesnt really do anything the other action games dont do.

oh that's right, once you hit 18 you grow a tie and suit and stop considering depictions of the female form attractive.

Also, yes, Kasumi is for life.

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>Also action games are not judged by their bosses, that is the brainlet way of understanding them.

I judge things as a whole.

>Vergil is the only fight worth talking about

He's great, and the DMC5 Vergil fight is the same but slower an easier, so there's that. But there are other good bosses, like you say Cerberus is easy yet he's infamous for gatekeeping many noobs so he can't be that easy, even if he is for you. Literally no one says 'I got stuck on this boss for days' at any point of DMC5.

And Gigapede being shit is a meme, he might be a bit of a joke but you can do some cool shit with him, which is more than can be said for Gilgamesh in DMC5. Gigapede has gone down as one of the biggest joke fights in DMC history whereas Gilgamesh is somewhat liked despite being boring as fuck and you can't do anything cool with it, Gigapede you can at least reflect his Orbs back him.

Are people still mad the game isn't exactly the same as B1 and designed around witch time? Jesus Christ.

God, I wish that was me.

My favorite part about God Hand is how deceptive webm's could be. When played well, teh game looks insanely easy. When you actually try it though it's arguably the hardest action game ever made.

Yeah because witch time is shit

Why cant NGfags have their own thread without putting other actionfags down

Hold on while i reach far into my ass...

...

Damn it's really in there

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There. Around 900. I guess i win.

Denying that people have played a game is not an argument. I wish people on Yea Forums would stop doing this garbage. If you are going to say something asinine like "it's a waste of time to argue with him if he hasn't played," then stop posting altogether, because that's what you are doing anyway if you actually believe that shit.

Yeah, Sekiro is much better

Yea having a personal waifu pic and webm collection is just finding fictional women attractive I'm sure, when are you transitioning?

Because they haven't had a game in 10+ years.

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Yeah, flying would be pretty cool.

Well they are, if you're talking about in the DMC sense. I love my Flails and Tonfa, but their best moves are 'cut off leg, demolish brain'.

It's kinda' everything desu. Yosheque puts it better than anyone could honestly, but anyone who dug into B1 knows easily why B2 has issues. Even if you're a casual, B2's weapons were fucking wack.

>make a bait shitpost thread by comapring it to sekiro
>get shot down almost immediately
>wtf why are NGbabbies so mean ;_;

pottery

I have a friend who gave up on geryon knight on devil hunter

For me and everyone with taste, it's KH2FM.

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The moment to moment gameplay in DMC5 far outweighs any bosses or enemy encounters in DMC3 and 4. The problem with the holy quad of action games GH, NG,DMC, and bayo is that the player is far to fast for a singular enemy making boss fights a worthless metric to judge the player experience at high level. The only one I've seen do it right honestly was NG (especially sigma 2 coop missions) by putting in enemies with the boss without taking away from the lethal AI. DMC bosses are kinda joke compared to the enemy encounter design overall, same goes for Bayo.

>Yea having a personal waifu pic and webm collection is just finding fictional women attractive I'm sure

Yes?

Neither is pretending to have played them, then getting all the details wrong. Hell, that's evidence that the person in question didn't play them at all, so it is an argument.

Because it's fun to argue, don't be such a soiboy

Even with the Gold Orb system and Red Orb system?

This.

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Ebbin. Fucking told you this was pointless. Have a picture of a library no one can prove they played. Now fuck off.

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I don't know who that random person you name dropped is but Bayonetta 2 is pretty great. The worst part about Bayonetta 2 is how the witch time works in boss fights, but the fact that Demons are more aggressive than angels on Infinite Climax means even with witch time it's an insanely fun experience.

It's better than say DMCV, especially with V segments for example even if you prefer Bayonetta 1.

It's like an action game, but for shortbus kids.

Every single person like you ever always considers "getting the details wrong" "not agreeing with what I felt when I experienced the thing."

Did the enemy just attack 3 times in the first 25 seconds? yikes.

More doesn’t mean better

I told him to just use orbs but he said he wanted the trophy so really it's on him

I really hate console wars. At some point, there was arguing in these threads. NG fags would say DMC3 was easy and whatever, but everybody could agree they were good games and the like.

Now everybody just argues about every little detail. Early on you had shit like Bayonetta 2 which was argued to death because of exclusivity, and now the mentality is stuck and people just do it with companies. If you even imply you like a game made by Platinum people just meme at you to death because they don't like the Motorcycle sequence in Bayonetta and act like in a 20 hour game 10 minutes is the end all be all deciding factor of quality.

I miss the days when we would lightly argue, then all have a laugh at Ryu trying to teach Kratos how to ride a bike.

>I don't know who that random person you name dropped is

A very good Bayonetta player who made 2 LP's, one for each game and basically broke each one down to etremely intricate design levels.

>but Bayonetta 2 is pretty great.

It's okay, it's just lacking the polish that made B1 a GREAT action game. And ruined a lot of stuff from B1. Combat wise, B2 has very inconsistent audio cues and hitboxes, enemies that randomly guard your attacks for no reason. And WT timer gain is inconsistent. But it plays like a Bayonetta game and that's the only reason it's getting away with all this shit.

There has never been a good Kingdom Hearts game.

>Fucking told you this was pointless

Man i really overestimated you. Here i was, thinking we were having a nice back and forth banter where everyone was in on the joke but no, you literally actually thought that i was gonna take the idea of someone coming up with the total number of games he played in his life on the spot seriously.

Oh lordy lord...

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What next, a private skirt collection "just because I like women"?

What ever mental gymnastics allows you to cope with the fact that Sigma is definite version of Ninja Gaiden 1.

I don't want to argue taste but I consider it a great game, not an okay game. MGR was a really fun "okay" game. Bayonetta 2 was great. Bayonetta 1 was near perfect and is in group with games like NG:B, DMC3 and God Hand. I can't even name 3 action games as good to me as Bayonetta 2.

Refer to OP is an absolute faggot.

You think I'm going to bant and give the time of day to a dirty waifu poster? Hell no. I cant give subhumans credit for anything.
Not even a good waifu on top of it, so I cant even make a exception and pretend you have a brain.

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>shit taking MGR
entire post discarded.
you do not deserve to exist.
hara-kiri now.

What is the best way to deal with those incendiary shuriken guys? I can deal with them on normal but on hard they fuck me up.

Why would you judge a ninja game on extreme combat? Tenchu is the best ninja game.
You know that FromSoft game where you play as an actual ninja? Sekiro is just them trying to convince the giant souls audience that they should enjoy tenchu games.

Ninja Gaiden isn't really a ninja game, it's a hack and slash "crazy" combat game with a ninja as the protag.

You're lucky Automata is even in that list. i'd put it off the page in shit tier.

Automata is a RPG and is not made to be a game like MGR or Bayonetta.

You have shit taste

Ninja are not real so there is no such thing as a "ninja game."

Ninja Gaiden is older than Tenchu as well so if anything games like Ninja Gaiden and Legend of Kage would define what makes a "ninja" game, not Tenchu.

A bad Bayonetta game is still a good game, but as a sequel to B1 it's just disappointing. Like I said, you don't need to go super autistic, the shit weapons and enemies auto blocking/dodging is about as casual as it gets.

Sigma 1 also has slowdown.

Is yelling about trannies out of nowhere really all you got?

I would have a stockings collection, not skirts

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too late to save face now

How can action games bosses compete with pic related?

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That all you got?

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>Ninjas weren't real

Are you actually fucking retarded?

>out of nowhere
Obsession with fictional women is common among trannies and weebs (proto trannies), why do you think animeposters devolve into erp?
>would
lol

pirates aren't real either user, they just made that shit up for movies and game sales

The thing you think of as Ninja is just Kabuki Theater shit my dude. There were no dudes running around in black climbing trees and flying on kites to kill people. Ninja are only real in the capacity that you need a network of spies to be a good ruler.

>Implying I care.
>Implying I'm the same user
>Implying
Waifu posters are the scum of the earth.

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i think you're projecting too much.

oof, desperate

So then Hitman is the best ninja game

>i heard it on Youtube. I'm a historian now :D !

>Are people still mad the game isn't exactly the same as B1 and designed around witch time?

It made WT more important for you to even do anything fun or significant on higher difficulties and then nerfed the shit out of it.

This is like faggots who try the "u must be gay too!" deflection in order to not face reality. Sad cope

2FM is up there.
People just sperg because
>They hate KH mindlessly because it's story or whatever
>They beat it on baby mode where they just mash X
>It's an ARPG so it's inherently inferior to action games somehow
>KH1 nostalgia fags

Are you disputing anything in my post. Feel free.

The genre is the stealth genre. And for stealth gameplay, yes. For overall game, MGS of course is king.

Nice strawman. I never told you what I thought ninjas actually were, you were the one who said ninjas were real. Ninjas were actual parts of the population and were much closer to an assassin caste than a "metaphorical idea of spying being a good tool for leadership".

*you were the one who said ninjas weren't real

Only thing I'm desperate with is finding an image that accurately relays my disgust at your continued existence.

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MGS barely qualifies as a stealth series. Go play Thief and Splinter Cell, then mouth off about stealth games.

I don't like Splinter Cell at all and have played 1, 2 and 3

Are your parents home? Call them in the room and take a picture of their face the minute they make eye contact with you. That should suit your needs plenty.

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Then you probably don't like stealth games.

I'm happy to dispute the shit out of your post. Ninjas were totally a thing, you've completely attempted to glaze over that there were records of ninjutsu clans operating within the Sengoku period. So your idea that "a ninja is just propaganda" is completely bullshit.

ninja gaiden's combat is better than shinobi though

sigma
this post made an autist mad enjoy your day

The only good enemy in Bayonetta is jeanne, and the grace and glory bros, that's literally it. The rest all suck and are either giant monsters or look gay as fuck.

I was scrolling page 1 and saw you, stopping by to say that NG2 is still shit, your filenames are still cringe and you're an attention-starved faggot with shit opinions no one will ever listen to

Scathing, but no I need something worse. Along of the lines of the last time you looked into a mirror and realized you amounted to nothing in life.

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The 4 best action games of all time are NGB, Bayo1, God Hand, and DMC5. Don't ask me to rank one above another because that would be like trying to pick my favorite child

the worst part of these threads is that one cringe doafag that always shows up

DMC 6 combat pisses and shits all over SEkirot's boring ass fake realism garbage combat.

Joy? Fairness/Fearless? Ardor? Even the basic throwaway angel mooks are fun to fight in groups. Besides you fight Grace & Glory often on NSIC so them being good makes a large chunk of the game good.
inb4 "all shit"

No I'd say it's the KH autist. It's like he walks into an argument and tries to be the loudest in the room with incoherent yelling.

You're such a fucking retarded mongoloid that you are confusing me with at least 3 different people.

>I just came by to say how much you make me butthurt

Seethe all you want faggot, see how much i care.

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I wish Ayane was my incestuous sister. Hayate doesn't know how lucky he has it.

That game isn't even out yet. Stop getting mad at internet people.

Oh I'm not confusing you with anybody, downie retard. You even did that thing and changed your filenames to be less conspicuous like the last time I insulted you, insecure posturing faggot

That's just my post but slightly altered. So weak.

Also wouldn't i be depressed instead of disgusted? I can think of a whole series of emotions that might transpire. You're not very good at this.

that describes the doafag actually

this girl is fat and retard
i prefer Marie Rose

I would never make a muh Black thread, i would never make a my game is better than your game thread and NG2 is literally my least favorite of the series so yeah DMC schizo, you literally are. Get back on your fucking meds and stop samefagging.

>changed filename

Literally un-diagnosed schizophrenic.

>that camera
Yikes

Can't you fags go flirt somewhere else?

>I would never make a muh Black thread
Yeah I know you wouldn't because you don't have any taste, avatarfag, we've had this discussion before where you think Black fans are posers. But what you think doesn't matter because NGB is the only good game in its series anyway. Choke on it you insufferable waifufag Sigma baby and don't pretend you didn't defend NG2 either

Not when this schizophrenic stalks this board trying to find my posts. He's unironically mentally ill. I don't even remember how he got his ass so obliterated, only that it had to do with DMC.

Also this thread is garbage from start to finish. It's not like it can get any lower.

Faggot, no one fucking cares.

God Hand controls like shit, that's why it seems hard

>avatarfag with your waifus
>WOW HE STALKS ME IN EVERY THREAD
the fucking state of you closeted trannies, and Im not even him nor do I care about NG

fuck off kid, you fucking annoying
we are too busy to discuss about video game here

>the original NG had NG+
>Black and Sigma don't nor do they have mission select either

For what purpose? This killed replayability for me, I don't want to fucking hunt down shitty golden scarabs and make sure I don't miss anything every time I start a new play through.

It has very simple intuitive and consistent controls, what you're complaining about is that it has limitations that are part of its challenge and fun. I bet if it was up to you, you'd let players run circles around enemies not getting that it completely destroys the fun crowd control of the game.

It easily is, trying to imply different is you being a nostalgiafag

I was gonna leave it til the ESL jumped in. I would beat you both within an inch of your miserable poorfag lives if I ever got the chance, the only reason I know this isn't a sad samefag attempt to save face is his broken English. At least the dumb waifufag can fucking form sentences

>this is your mind on Yea Forums

Go outside underage, Jesus.

>Improves the combat

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Black doesn't have mission select because it's a open world game like zelda.

Yea Forums's not responsible for giving humans basic pattern recognition abilites, grandma (male)

>grandma (male)
You just killed my sides user

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NG threads might just be the worst fucking threads on this whole board. What a fucked up timeline.

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you can't even beat a waifufag, you can't even kill a rat. What are you gonna doing? you shut your fucking mouth and do nothing

What kind of third worlder are you? Probably a slimy Indian. How'd you get internet access, ESL? Do you know what ESL is? Do I need to use smaller words and limit myself to terms in your third grade literature you used to learn broken English?

its literally the 2 resident ng fags on Yea Forums butthurt that their garbage series is irrelevant while every other action game series is thriving

my english skills may be broken, at least my brain is not broken like yours. Fucking americanfag

>any Zelda but BotW
>open world
>game literally divided into chapters
>open world

Is this some meta shitposting?

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When did the retarded school shooters start using the fact that a person can speak more than one language as an insult?

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I love NGB so much

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>ITT: /cgg/ autism

>the fact that a person can speak more than one language as an insult?
Saying he can speak more than one language is being generous, avatarfaggot.

>>Automata is better than Rising

objectively false

Questions: if I put an Xbox original disk of Ninja Gaiden Black into an Xbox One what do I get? Does it emulate the 360 version or does it emulate the original Xbox version?

>Be faggot zoomer
>Born in the "love niggers and faggots" timeline
>Exposed to the worst vidya since the release of pong
>make daily FROM posts
>Never played NGB or NES NG

I am going to do everything in my power to bury your generation under crippling debt

Based

It's better in every way. Combat, story, music, bosses, art direction. MGR sucks dick just like you.

>tfw we'll never get any port of Ninja Gaiden games for pc
At least we got Nioh from Team Ninja.

poorfag can't even afford a PS3 nor don't know how to use console in a right way.

Can already emulate sigma fine

But I own Sigma 1&2 for ps3 you fucking retard, I just want them on pc.

>buying a console to play the inferior versions
Dance monkey dance

MGR is for men, Automata is for sexually frustrated そいboys like yourself

No, i can clearly understand what he is saying even though i have no idea what his native tongue might be, so he can clearly speak English. Also he seems to be a more reasonable and earnest individual and more clever than you , he just comes across as a significantly better person than you in general and your petty attempts to demean him emphasize that.

sekiro is about shinobis, not ninjas
retard

Men who like piss-easy games with shit music maybe.

then what feel? you should feel how retarded you are if you want to buy these games again on pc

>I just want them on pc

Why?

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Nice blog tumbfag

>Why?
To play them of course and to avoid another Bayonetta situation where the ps3 version is shite.

If he's anything like me it's so he can sell that shitty console, the games and possibly his tv and just conveniently play them on PC

Wait what does SSB have to do with Ninja Gaiden? What did I miss?

case in point. You're more a dispenser dismissive catchphrases than a human being per se. You kind of reek of fear.

But there's nothing wrong with the PS3 version. That doesn't make any sense.

still not decided

i told ya, he's a pcfag, he just own these games but don't know how to play them with controller

Looks like shit on my 1440p monitor.
Was fine on my TV but I don't own one anymore.

take your own advice, reddit nigger

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youtube.com/watch?v=Z0r0zPTUfAQ

URBAN REIGN ABOVE ALL

>extreme combat game
Alright we're getting ridiculous with names for games like this.

>animuposter

Way worse than Yakuza

DoA girls will never have relationships unless it's a self insert character thanks to their autistic fanbase. Only idolfags are worse. Senran Kagura fags are on DoA level, it may even be the same people.

DoA fags are fucking cancer, there's this one dude that was waifufagging Rachel without knowing anything about her. Shit was hilarious. Waifufags truly are subhumans.

The comparison would work better if NG's central mechanic was reblocking.

I had way more fun with NG2.

Post your play histories, my niggers.

Fighting Jeanne in bayo 1 was so much better.

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Why are NGtards so insecure?

Because Yaiba Z destroyed any possibility of a new NG game.

Sigma has slowdowns, removed puzzle sections, added rachel chapters which are a slog to go through, nerfed Vigoorian Knights (their first attack doesn't break your block anymore, meaning you can counter attack them, making their fights trivial), has blur out of the ass. The only good things it has over Black are the permanent blood splatters, rolling sideways/backwards have a new animation (backflip), water gameplay, the dual swords and the Alma/Doku/Marbus mission fight.

Eh, it was a bit more than that. 3 and Yaiba put a big dent in it sure, but Nioh's commercial success is what really finished off the chances of a new Ninja Gaiden game anytime soon.

If you haven't been following the series, you wouldn't understand why another Ninja Gaiden wouldn't top it. The guy behind Black was Tomonobu Itagaki, and he left Team Ninja because Tecmo didn't give him any payment in some of his projects (I think it was Xtreme Beach Volleyball on Xbox or DOA4 on 360, can't remember), which is the reason why Ninja Gaiden 2 is such a bugfest, that was his last game under Team Ninja, done halfway and released too early in its development. You can still see why people say 2 is a close second to Black though, because it had the same developer behind it (he didn't work on Sigma versions, and it shows).

It’s better

no lol

it goes back and forth man, there's two notorious samefags on both sides of the isle, i love both games dearly

which is better bayo one or two?

Two is still worse despite not having qte and cheaply implemented space harrier clone.

>Ninja Gaiden 2 is such a bugfest
I finished the game 3 times and didn't have any issues.

>Sigma on RPCS3 which is basically a better Black
sounds like someone that never played Black

Black is definitely better than the original.
I enjoyed 1 more. Umbran Climax is way too powerful in 2, and fighting the lumen sage is not as fun as fighting Jeanne in 1.

someone never played one of the version, that's for sure

>Umbran Climax is way too powerful in 2
You're giving that user faulty information here. Bayonetta by herself is weak as shit without the Umbran Climax. It's balanced in the terms of the overall game, but it feels too powerful because they front loaded ALL of Bayonettas damage into that one mode. Without it the game is a slog.

the graphics are higher in fidelity but worse in art direction. i bought sigma so excited to play ninja gaiden again and it was a disgusting disappointment

So you never experienced the infamous staircase slowdown? Or Ryu sometimes not splashing the blood out of his weapons? Or how could cheese Elizabeth fight with Flying Swallow and Vigoorian Flails? Those were common af. I know there were more but it's been so long since I played it.

Sure, all of what you said is true. I guess I should elaborate.

Bayo 1 gameplay flow is something like this: a lot of dodge offsetting and weaked weaves > you get enough magic for a torture attack that you spend on the most dangerous enemy on screen or activating accessories > repeat

Bayo 2 in comparison: dodge offsetting and weacked weaves that hardly do enough damage > you get enough magic, activate UC and clear out the entire screen

It's just not as fun.

I did, but I'm not sure a slowdown counts as a bug.

>Or Ryu sometimes not splashing the blood out of his weapons?
Nope.

I know 2 has some bugs, but in my 50+ hours playing it I hardly encountered any. I wouldn't call it a bugfest.

alright thanks anons i'll give bayonetta 1 a proper try after im done with bloody palace

Make sure you learn dodge offset. It's easy: hold down the attack buttons since bayo includes charge properties for all weapons. While holding down the attack button, dodge. This will allow you to combine attacking and dodging without dropping your combo.

It's important because you get the most damage out of combo finishers. Easiest combo to practice with is Punch Kick Punch.

Watch the first 10 minutes to see how it works:
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Not him but is bayo worth 25$how is the steam port?

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Also, if you are going for better ranks, and a fight goes awfully wrong, press pause, return to titele screen and then continue. This will continue the game from before the last fight you had.

Also, you can skip cutscenes without going to the pause menu, if you press RT+select.

Pressing select while the game is loading a level pauses the loading, allowing you to practice combos.

Well worth it, great port, but if you're low on cash might as well wait for a sale. Bayo gets very good discounts on Steam.

I had that shit happen to me like 7 times on my first playthrough, maybe you never waited for the animation and just rushed through the game? That shit was dope af which is why I would always let him do it after most encounters. And anecdotal evidence serves little if you're going to tell me you never experienced any bugs when in my case I did. Just go read about them on the internet if you don't believe the last game by Tomonobu Itagaki made in a rush before leaving isn't a bugfest.

They are actually, Shinobi also used puppetry so hidden blades and "guns" inside prosthetic hands or limbs has been a somewhat of a popular trope with shinobi.

Splashing blood off the weapon is just Ryu's idle animation, I don't see how this is a problem honestly.

I couldn't help but notice that the scythe's OT starter animation, which is a high kick, won't always reach an enemy. That did rub me the wrong way. Nothing that would ruin my fun though. After playing 2 I don't want to play Black anymore, I just love 2's combat.

>More buttons
>Better
Vanilla WoW has the best combat then, you had 30+ buttons to click at any time.

I agree, sometimes less is more.

Ninja Gaiden is a fundamentally different game. They play very differently. You have to be pretty low IQ to compare them strictly on themes.

Not the dude you're arguing with but do you have a source on this or is this some vague shit you're pulling out of your ass?

absolutely based, i fully agree with you

How many times have you replayed dmc5? The more I play it, the more it falls flat. At least gameplay is there.

I really can't go back to NGB after 2 to be honest. 2 > Black