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Suikoden 1 aged badly

2 - Easily my favourite
1- follows closely
5- Really enjoyed and was awesome to see more georg prime action
4 - short and fuck me the random battles...
3 - never played because it looks like utter shite

Played the first one alot but not the sequals. Looked like it went down hill like alunrda 2 when it tried to go 3D.

Grandia 2 was a good sequal

Legaia 2 sucked

It's disappointingly easy when you go back to it but it's still got that atmosphere and nostalgia

>3 - never played because it looks like utter shite
Its actually pretty good and some bosses are challenging

play breath of fire 3 and 4 if you havent

Edgy opinion alert: theyre both great games but 5 > 2

Love both of them. I loved them both equally around the time they came out but it's only recently I realised how muc better BoF3 was. Love that game so much.

Dragon quarter got a lot of hate but I think it's a good game in it's own right. Really addictive

maybe i'll give it a go. I tried it for about half hour and it didn't feel like a suikoden game
I appreciate they tried to modernise the series but it just felt wrong to me.

Suikoden 1 aged quite a bit, but is still definitely playable today. Amusingly enough, it was treated kinda like a "test project" by the director at the times, (was his first project, he wanted to do a game that'd end up being Suikoden 2, but preferred to play it safe for his first try). It still has a lot going for it and really makes Suikoden 2 better, so it's definitely worth playing.
Suikoden 2 is the best jrpg ever made.

Suikoden 3 is odd. Suikoden have a reputation for "slow starts", and Suikoden 3 is the worse by far in that aspect, with almost 40 hours of "slow start", with a shitload of backtracking, no full access to the roster, etc. It really gets going after that, but you need to hang in there for a bit. It's the only Suikoden I've never replayed for that reason, but I still enjoyed it.
Suikoden 4 (original creator had left right before the end of Suikoden 3 development) is a textbook example of "okay game for that genre, bad game for the series". It's mostly about fucking nothing happening, with anticlimatic antagonists and a pretty weak plot that's really distant from the original trilogy. It's meh. The music and setting are really nice, though.
Heard Suikoden Tactics is kinda okay, and makes up for the shortcoming in the story of Suikoden 4. Haven't really played it.
Suikoden 5 is just the new team trying to copy Suikoden 2 as much as possible, and guess what: Suikoden 2 is so fucking good that it just works, because even a pale copy of it is still better than most original jrpgs. It doesn't hold up to the original, but is actually probably the second best game in the series, and is an incredible blast to play, especially after Suikoden 4.

Tearkreis is super meh, and no one played that one game on the PSP.

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"Suikoden 2 is the best jrpg ever made"

I like you :)

>Suikoden 5 is just the new team trying to copy Suikoden 2 as much as possible, and guess what: Suikoden 2 is so fucking good that it just works, because even a pale copy of it is still better than most original jrpgs
Completely agree with this

It's a very slow start. You've got like 3 chapters or so for 3 characters before it hits that real Suikoden feel, and one or two for the side character who is the game's Tenkai Star.

Suikoden 2 is the pinnacle of the Series, it's one of the best games I've played. All of them are worth playing though if you ask me.

Suikoden 2, also the best in the series

official rankings
IV < III < V < I < II

>IT TOOK HUNDREDS TO KILL ME, BUT I KILLED HUMANS BY THE THOUSANDS
LOOK AT ME! I AM SUBLIME! I AM THE TRUE FACE OF EVIL!

I would hang you by your unclean balls for being this tech illiterate, OP.

>2019
>can't do a reverse image search

>mfw all other Wild Arms OPs basically have no chance because they go up against the first one
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Ok niggas here's the real questions
Suikoden or BoF?

S5 had some good ideas of its own, like the whole formation thing, but for the most part yeah. It just cobbled together everything that worked from previous games. And that FUCKING intro lasting 5+ hours is insane. Still, it has its perks.

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Suikoden, easily

Queendoms have no chance of surviving politics.

Cheers. I'll be honest, I haven't really played a lot of JRPG past the PS2-era, but I really don't see anything topping Suikoden 2 one day. My favourite part is probably the "local" aspect of these games. It's not about saving the world with 7 teenagers, one adult and one mascot, but really to try to free a country from the oppressors and so on with a whole army and hundreds of characters that you can kinda see the impact on your forces. It's definitely a different feel from all the other JRPG.

Missed that one. Would actually agree for the gameplay (which has never really been Suikoden's forte, but Suikoden V allows you to a lot of cool dumb stuff for combat, some obvious and some less).
However, the plot of 5 doesn't hold a candle to 2's, ESPECIALLY regarding the antagonists. 5's bad guys are all extremely dumb and do a ton of shit to give people a reason to hate them, and always act like it's part of their masterplan... Except they have none. The only good villain in 5 is Sialeeds.
I guess I don't even need to make a case for the bad guys in 2.

Comparing 5 and 1 is always tricky. I would just say they're equal but removing the nostalgia factor, 5 is better

I kind of liked what I played of 4 when I was like 10, but I think I enjoyed BoF2 more. Watched a friend play Suikoden 1 and wasn't really impressed, but maybe I'll pick up a copy and play it myself one day.

Suikoden goes to complete shit the second you beat Luca Blight. The whole MUH BEST FRIEND IS MY ENEMY is beyond forced. Jowy is just a little bitch fag who goes on about MUH DESTINY, a destiny which your grandfather was able to tell to fuck off.

First Breath of Fire is very very basic and series basically formed its identity with the second one.

Breath of Fire 3 and 4 are really accessible and tell solid personal stories. Suikoden 1 and 2, especially 2, are a lot more complex what with the politics and army management/recruitment, but get a fuck ton of payoff if you know what you're doing. Though to be fair, Suikoden also has varying endings depending on how many people you recruit, while Breath of Fire is far more straightforward. Usually.

Quick, everyone post your Suiko waifu before they're taken by another!

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I don't know why people don't get this. Jowy is YOU for the Highland. Put in that perspective it makes sense why he could not simply give up. Also, True Rune fuckery.

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5 gave you WAY too many OP characters. All of Queen's Knights were a notch above the rest.

^^ This

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I kinda disagree, but I guess that I've replayed this game so many times that I'm kinda brainwashed.
For me, after you beat Luca Blight, the interesting part of the conflict is not Jowy versus Riou, it's Shu versus Leon, and how they both reflect, in a way, the philosphy of Mathiu.
Also, while I don't like how "Hollywood" the true ending is, just the fact that if you go into the war room at the end and you've got a picture of Jowy waiting for you at the waterfall from the very beginning of the game after the credits was fucking amazing.

Nigga, she married.

I really liked Legaia 2. I replay it every year.

way better than bland lyon

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3D also never really played nice with Suikoden until 5.

The funny thing is, you have some characters that look kinda shitty but can end up as broken as the Queen's Knights, if not more.
You have Lu and Sagiri that can chain ranged attack like madwomen, super twinkboy Richard that basically fucks all other DPS in the ass, Raven that's basically unbeatable in some dungeons, or that leopard guy that can stunlock the final boss.

I liked Lyon. She was cute and dedicated as fuck.

They're completely different. Breath of Fire is more of a traditional JRPG in terms of plot and gameplay, Suikoden is it's own thing. I prefer Suikoden, but if you prefer more traditional JRPGs then you can't go wrong with Breath of Fire.

Best game ever

I definitely remember Richard being the shit. Weapon block or whatever it was called, where characters could block attack and counter back, really made characters too powerful if you bothered to even remotely put them together sensibly. Chronic lack of a good gun user, though. Cathari was shit compared to Clive from 2 because she could only hit ONE target from I remember for some reason.

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Is a physical copy of Suikoden II for PSX still worth anything? Asking because I have one

A lot

100-200 €

I sold my loose copy for like a hundred bux a while ago
I found it for a dollar at a thrift store

I had just the disk and sold it for £45 because my girlfriend said we were hard up for money.

I've never been the same since

Legit question, are thrift stores good dives if you want to find games to go with your older hardware? I still have some working older consoles and wouldn't mind a few games for them.

Cathari was pretty meh for random fights, but she was an incredible boss-killer. Her rune was bad, but she had 2 available rune slots. You'd give her a Crazed Rune with S Technique and S Triple Harmony, and you were in for the biggest numbers in the game. Yeah, it was only one-shot, but it did more much damage than a triple crit from any other characters.
Also, all L characters could have only one attack, except for Sagiri and Lu, as I've mentionned. Some characters like Isato had stuff like Barrage shot though, that would allow them to attack a whole column.
Yeah, i just found back my notes, no way I would naturally remember all of this

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I found a copy of Front Mission 2 at a used book store (Book Off) in Japan for 100 yen (~90 cents)

I bet thrift store can be an even bigger gold mine potentially