Valve Index

He's based tbqh and I like my VR
A well forced meme

They've had 5 years to work on it, why not?

I wonder if they will be crazy enough to put some EEG sensors in there, they're actually surprisingly cheap and easy to find and probably sold at a premium since it's such a niche thing.
amazon.com/NeuroSky-MindWave-Mobile-Brainwave-Starter/dp/B07CXN8NKX/

BASED VRCHAT CEO BANNING ANIME PEDOS

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This one has Marie clone and confirmed Knuckles support

store.steampowered.com/app/658360/SUMMER_VACATION/

youtube.com/watch?v=Asalw1H6NH0

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I'm not willing to give money to Valve and I'm not willing to use Steam or any other console wannabe platform.

VRchat is a legit stinking pile of shit.
I'm not even talking about the devs or the community. It's just a buggy game with huge performance issues.
I'm not sure why somebody hasn't already gotten on making a game like VRchat that isn't fucking garbagely made. Somebody ring up /agdg/

There were rumors that it might use galvanic vestibular stimulation since Gabe was talking about solving motion sickness

Because VR is a meme gimmick fad that is already over, it doesn't make sense to waste time and resources into making a VRchat clone.

Is english not your first language?

He said he's not banning him, but implying he really wants too.

He's setting up his moral high ground for when he actually starts banning everyone and killing any interest in his broken platform that only got big because of fucking youtuber memes.

how can you tell if a cartoon is underaged or not?

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>The Gallery

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Here's the Valve prototype that used it

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A Certain Scientific Headset

3 years later and this is still the best VR experience.
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Remember to buy Todd's game for the Index release! It's on sale right now on many stores, only a few days left!
isthereanydeal.com/game/elderscrollsvskyrimvr/info/

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More like there's going to be an absurd number of bundles with all different kinds of VR games including lots of older games. Valve can do whatever the fuck they want with Steam Store bundles.

Developers are actually free to veto sales if they don't want to participate, the Factorio dev for example said the game will never be on sale.

as long as their set price gets covered they have no real say in how the game is sold. But issues with developer willingness really wasn't what I was speaking to, rather that, unlike with the Vive launch, there already is now an absurd amount of VR content on Steam, and there are no potential issues with any partner any more. There is no practical limit to the number of bundles Valve can set up for this. They've even been experimenting with personalized, algorithm-generated bundles at various times in the past few years.

Neos VR already looks technically superior and has a better featureset and mozilla's expirments with VR are basically recreating VRchat without the centralized architecture.

During the last store-wide sale of $5 off any purchase of $30 or more you could get Factorio for $25.

That doesn't count since it's just store credit.

I was charged $25, it didn't refund $5 of steam money.

Still doesn't count since it's store credit, the dev receives the same amount of money.

Valve made up the difference. Valve can do pretty much whatever as long as the developer gets what they're due.

>people thinking they won't release HLVR when Gabe literally said he was jealous of Nintendo and now has the expertise to release hardware and software simultaneously
pcgamer.com/gabe-newell-hooray-valves-going-to-start-shipping-games-again/

Still a better take than the Factorio sales thread. According them to I got an "unconsentual" sale. Like I raped the dev by taking the offer.

Keep posting it, user! Maybe you'll be right one day!

>Factorio sales thread
So a thread about nothing?

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On the Steam discussion anyone asking about a sale gets merged into a sticky thread where the sycophants will belittle you for not wanting to pay $20 (even though its been $30 for over a year).

>bans pretty much the totality of the players

Dumping poor third-worlders into a single thread to get laughed at seems like the right response.

What's the appeal of VR though?

It actually has pretty generous regional pricing, I don't know if that really fits their no sale policy.
steamdb.info/app/427520/

it's fun

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How good will the Knuckles be compared to everything else? I saw that 16m Boneworks video and the Knuckles seem insane

What if you're already the gayest ever before you try on the headset tho?

Porn

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Then it makes you straight
Get rekt

wtf is wrong with boomers

Okay, but what if I'm the most degenerate bisexual there is and I don't care if it's hottest chick or dude I just need to fuck to save the world?

Asexual

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wtf I love motion sickness now

But now that I'm asexual, what affect will it have on me when I take the leap back into VR?

If I'm asexual will it take my virginity? Because it hasn't happened yet.

this would make me vomit

I think at the 15fps the video was encoded at it would make anyone vomit.

endearing, but also sad in a way

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>none of them flinch or even bother checking if the Vive Pro is alright
I wish I were rich

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oh god here comes the samefag webm dumper from every other thread

How has it never dawned on anyone to deck out their VR playroom like a mattress walled asylum cell?

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It's less work just to not be a dipshit and pay attention to the chaperone grid.

And everyone else. A lot of games, especially 0G ones played with letting you flip over and they always cut it before final release.

oh wow very nice its the vrchat neckbeard ERP ```lesbians""" from 2016 never seen this one before please post more

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They'll be the best available, but that's a REALLY low bar. Knuckles pressure sensors fused with Index CV hand tracking is Valves 'hand presence' solution, but we'll just have to wait and see how well it really works.

HNNNNNNNGGGGGHHHHH

what kinda shit name is Index tho

Man, I found The Gallery 1+2 to be such underwhelming VR experiences

all of VR is underwhelming

>but we'll just have to wait and see how well it really works.
People that have it say it's really good but hand tracking relies on hand placement which could go to shit if you are some baby- or troll-hand monster.

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no haptics no buy.

damn
RIP

Controllers do in fact have haptics and the knuckles in particular simulate the feeling of holding something, crazy huh.

It was a good headset. Shame it had to go out like that.

I want to feel stroking on my penis

Why are normalfags so fucking stupid

See you in 25-30 years

the one thing that pisses me off about VR is that VR is a good solution for dungeon crawlers like, anvil of dawn, eye of the beholder etc etc.

because you could easily work with the snap turning and have the ability to look around you to fit the grid structure, just make it open and beautifully designed like Grimrock and Might & Magic X the cities at least i bet you could eliminate most of all the constant UI interfaces you have in those games, and all the companions could always be behind the player with the option to turn around and engage with them, but have the party attack in a more immersive way than numbers on a screen

but nobody fucking produces anything like that, not even close

He knows if he did this the game would die imediately

Put the controller on your penis

You can simulate that with your hand.

That's a quote from two and a half years ago, look at the date.

Download an engine and start devving then, it's not that hard.

Because mainstream culture has to cater to the lower common denominator.

Nobody is talking about the complete system with the Index optical hand tracking, yet. But yes, due to the seeming relatively low reliability of the knuckles alone (and some weird seemingly deliberate meat:virtual mismatch) and the fact that the CV from is only two front-facing cameras, I have my doubts it'll be all that great. Still, going to be far beyond anything else just for the open-handed wearable design. That was a really good idea from Valve.

I do not have hands

no one bought a steam machine because valve didnt sell them on steam, only from 3rd part sites - no one is going to buy an alienware steam machine from alienware

will they sell this on steam? so people an use thier trading card bux to buy one?

Nope.

It could be called Windex as either an insult or a term of endearment

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Valve is literally releasing a headset you dumb motherfucker lol

I find VR is fantastic for situations in which you'd be wearing a helmet or visor like device in a real-world situation (space, underwater, driving a racecar, etc).
Weirdly, I Expect You To Die was the most immersive experience for me but I don't know what they did differently than say, BigScreen Beta (which is cool but I don't feel sense-of-presence).

Valve always sells hardware on Steam so yes.
Steam Machines were just guidelines and SteamOS that other manufacturers used, it was never really Valve's hardware.

But steam machines WERE sold on steam. So were steam links and they had to borderline give those shits away

there have been a few, exactly like you describe

I agree, it is a buggy piece of shit. But it does accomplish some things that no other game has - namely, the ability to share your own 3d models and maps.
Once another company manages to do the same thing but actually has developers who know what they're doing, it's over for VRChat.

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>so people an use thier trading card bux to buy one?

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you could not use steam wallet funds to buy any steam machine, the controller and link, yes, not the machines

I agree with that last statement.

The game you chose plays a HUGE role in how much you actually feel like you are there, yet I can't put my finger on what causes it.

I'll have a Tenga VRealfeel autoblow machine please
Yes, in small actually, how could you tell?

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James Cameron literally released Avatars 3D and look no one has a 3DTV, who cares if Steam releases a headset.

dumb Kanna poster

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Release a stable game faggot.

thee was a steam page under hardware for the machines too- it just linked to 3rd party sites to purchase one

it's pretty hard, i am a very stupid person with a low income job that reflects it, if there isn't an easy game making program it would be to hard for me.

i have been thinking about learning some basic C++ just so i could make something, at some point.

I don't believe you, if you know something you better tell because i haven't seen any such games

Why would Epic waste development money and time on an useless gimmick literally nobody gives a fuck about?

same with the vive, the page is thee but it links to vives site to buy it

So what you're saying is Index will be the greatest selling headset of all time

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>if there isn't an easy game making program it would be to hard for me.
I already told you, download an engine.

Using an loli/shota avatar is not pedo if its controlled by an 20-25 something.
You do age/play etc, you are in the grey zone.

IMAX 3D is still huge and pretty much every kinoplex has constant 3D releases so I'd say that worked out well.

Yes that was because there were different brands that sold the Machines with different parts
I'm assuming that this new HMD is made by Valve completely, It would be pretty stupid not to put it on steam, which is already huge and has millions of users online everyday

Build engine, GoldSrc, Quake engine?

UE4, Unity, whatever the fuck people use today and not ancient shit.
You know what, forget it.

I can't code, but i guess i could mess around building levels, okay

I love this game, also the motion sickness isn't that bad since it adds anime speed lines and blur during fast movement. I still avoid the flips though.

How do you expect to know something if you never try learning?

VRChat is supposed to be playable on Oculus Quest too, I'd like to see them pull that one off when the game doesn't even run that well on current hardware.

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It will be a great opportunity for the dev to purge anime girls by disallowing any kind of user models and maps since the Quest will only support highly optimized models, I know it will happen.

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Holy shit, I remember this game. Old as fuck

how much is it gonna cost

Groovy as fuck too lol

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Where is this from?

I should look into doing this in VR sometime I'd love to replay these old G-Con games.

Actually looks fun as fuck.

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Does anyone have the updated best VR games list? Pic related is outdated and didn't save the newer one.

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>for patreon supporters
Cringe.

its free. you dont need to pledge

Which of these are best for online co-op? Also is Skyworld anygood?

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We don't know shit. Valve did this little announcement suddenly just to humiliate and destroy the sales of Facebook Rift S (and other new HMDs such as the Reverb and whatever HTC does, but Rift S in particular with the FOV slider). It may not even actually be releasing in May, they may just have a reveal then and it releases in the fall or winter.

I'm guessing this is a list from someone with a Vive, as I don't see any Oculus exclusives: Robo Recall, Lone Echo, and From Other Suns are all good. I'd also add Skyrim.

>Which of these are best for online co-op?
From Other Suns was good for co-op with my friends.

I think it's this youtube.com/watch?v=SLETH8dO9r8

Yeah, lets make vrchat into an recroom with nothing to do. Good direction.
Also Tupper saidbthey want way more user generated content, and weebs create stuff.

>From Other Suns

I'm not aware of the method to be playing Oculus games from the HTC. Is that an easily thing?

>meme gimmick fad

whoa three buzzwords back to back

I haven't done it myself, but I hear it isn't that complicated. I think the tool is called "Revive".

>and weebs create stuff
downloading anime preset #51839471 and changing the hair color to lime isn't creation

Will this be better than the Rift S? It is very important that I know this.

>banning their core audience
>having underage anime girl on your twitter

twitter.com/vrchat?lang=en

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Isn't that what VRChat already is though? It's mostly a dumping ground for people's Unity projects and map rips on the creative side, and the only money to be made is the dudes making custom avatars and most of those are lazy MMD edits.

Details are scant few, but probably

>It will be bundled with tech demo, walking simulator, grindfest and vaporware.

Wow amazing. Clearly people will drop $1K on this.

It's an upgrade, it says right there.

>2160x2160 per eye
>135 fov
>snapdragon 845 standalone plus wireless pc

Probably, since the Rift S is barely an upgrade from CV1 and actually goes backwards in some areas

>It's mostly a dumping ground for people's Unity projects

Are we talking about VR Chat or Steam?

Sadly I don't think the Quest has enough RAM for VRchat.

just download more

It doesn't even have enough power to render a single anime girl model, devs had to cut polygon counts to 1% of the PC versions to make their games run, I have no idea how they expect VRChat to work on this.

>booting up a dozen of
youtu.be/BgUzteADsRI

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show the one with the undercover cop

Yes, but VRChat doesn't make you pay 100 bucks to dump your shit as far as I'm aware.

>bundled with vaporware

are you fucking retarded? the former precludes the latter. if the game is released it's not vaporware.

Gabe already said they want to bundle hardware and software releases together like Nintendo likes to do, at least SOMETHING from Valve must be coming.

artifact vr and ricochet 2

vaporware means shit unfinished game now that anything can release in pre-alpha state
want to and can do are two different things retard

>Ricochet 2
I would unironically want to see it happen.

Ricochet was a fun little novelty. Certainly better than fucking Artifact.

unless valve has been paying all its employees to sit around and do coke all day, they must have been working on something these past few years. no way artifact and dota patches tied up all their game devs

>a game company can't do games
And don't throw that vaporware meme at me, we all know Valve's game block has been hardware but we're exactly talking about hardware.

When was the last time Valve released a single-player game that did not contain microtransactions?

valve said they would develop the 3 games

none of these games are being made by valve, ?except for half life?, one of the games have probably something to do with portal because they made a "aperture VR" subreddit

Valve is even worse than Google for paying people to fuck around with pet projects that are eventually dropped

>none of these games are being made by valve

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>valve saving gaming once again in their less than 40 years of existence

>Ricochet 2
youtu.be/fkcIH6DeBUM?t=912

Cummin' April 12th.

Too bad for you that Valve has done literally nothing for the past five years. They just waste their time on useless projects that they cancel. That's literally the only thing they have done for these years.

they have never released a single player game with microtransactions.

and probably like last year
>inb4 VR games don't count for some reason

I think them bundling third party games like Boneworks and Cloudhead's game is pretty safe since those devs are known to have devkits of the Index and Knuckles.

The Boneworks guys have been in close talks with Valve, and a build of Boneworks showed up in the Steam directory under Valve's domain, but this may simply be a sharing of a build for Valve's curiousity.

Both existing Valve VR tech demo suites are framed within Aperture Science settings so I'm not sure how much that subreddit means.

the optics are something totally new and special but we don't know quite what. automagical optical fixed foveation, a way to make otherwise impossibly large FOV by using multiple lenses, some kind of optical SDE mitigation, or some combination of those. the unused patent logo seems to indicate multiple lenses (or lens arrays).

>snapdragon 845 standalone plus wireless pc
there is currently speculation that this is what the front expansion port is for. I kind of doubt it it's for true 'standalone' operation, due to the camera arrangement, but possibly for their wireless solution.

Valve is going to "save" gaming with VR in the same fashion they "saved" gaming with those stupid Linux consoles.

That is, they'll sell some overpriced piece of shit no one cares about, then declare victory over the bogeyman Gabe Newell invented in his mind. Redditors will cheer and thank Lord Gaben for rescuing them.

tyler pls, substantiate your claims

Where's the best place to pirate singleplayer vr games, this shit is expensive.

Portal 2 had microtransactions.

So I ask again, when was the last time Valve shipped a single-player title that did not have microtransactions?

it'll be a totally different and separate game with an in-game avatar creator only. it'll be shit, but it's more about trying to do something for Facebooks humint people.

Yeah, just like they "developed" Portal, Counter Strike and Team Fortress
Boneworks was probably bought by Valve during development, so they "made" it.

www.internet.com

I think it might actually take off now that valve's releasing one.

jewgle

>Yeah, just like they "developed" Portal, Counter Strike and Team Fortress
Yes, all those games were developed by Valve employees and weren't even bought out mid-development, they were made from the ground up.

The factorio dev is a little bitch about sales?

Guess I'm pirating

They bought the teams and made the games at Valve
Gabe Newell himself didn't program them all, new guys got brought on to make them

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Honest to God I feel like boomers are an entire standard deviation below the IQ of the rest of the population.

They are so fucking gullible it's crazy.

>valve employees aren't valve employees because they existed before they were valve employees, it only counts if the CEO is the one who personally makes the games by himself
What kind of logic are we running on here? Who are you even trying to convince?

All I was doing this entire game was pretending to fuck this old hag.

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Name any game company in existence that doesn't have employees that make the games.

The first post said the games aren't being made by Valve, despite being owned by Valve

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piratebay
Dauphong puts pretty much every VR game up there

Is that guy an actual Valve employee? How many layers of irony is this video on?

VR is soiboy crap prove me wrong

HLVR is one of the three games. It will come out with Knuckles, this year. For the other two, we don't really know anything other than that at least one is in Unity. One of them may be lagging significantly behind the other two, or even quietly cancelled (but will be restarted or replaced later).

Tyler.

Google Flynn effect

cs.rin.ru
although I always buy the game if I feel devs deserve it.

If you're looking for a game that has a lot of content, payday 2 VR has the most content in any coop vr game right now as far as I know. They recently added procedural arm animations so you can wave to people and make hand gestures telling them to go fuck themselves without spending 5 minutes typing on the virtual keyboard.

your opinion is irrelevant

Seconding this.
Search the English main forum as there is no VR board.

:3

I actually think it's in the early adopter techies/geeks/rich upper middle class more money than sense phase right now

this will probably begin to change over the next couple years. Kind of like how the internet was until ~2007

But at some point within the next decade or two, something will happen that brings mass market appeal of VR and that's when it'll go to shit

sense of scale and presence that can't be recreated with anything else.

Ironically, Valve.

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no, it's just jokes. that actor later went to prison for child porn.

delete this cancer from the internet please

>that actor later went to prison for child porn.
is that a joke too

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Wouldn't say he was an actor, he was just a guy who was friends with and be in videos by Silvermania. When called from prison and was asked why he was arrested he said "Oh uh...I had some computer problems..."

Isn't the VR meme already dead? Will Valve be making another Artifact-style blunder?

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LET ME PREORDER ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEE

NON VR BITCHES SEEEEETHING

fuckers could at least release HalfLife2 VR, not that fucking hard since it was already working perfectly on DK2.
Would be a moderate hit with very little effort to create it

Valve is only capable of making blunders at this point.

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what a fucking retard

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Half life 3?
Half life 2 episode 3?

Augmented reality is much better suited for this purpose

Half life 2: Episode Two - Part Two

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Seven hour war prequel to HL2

Half-Life Pre-Sequel

Game?

Does epic allow cunny games?

Lone Echo echo.games/

Epic doesn't even have VR support

They had some insane paranoia about motion sickness, way back in the beginning.

This is actually fucking wild.

Not until they get as big and complacent as Steam.

>Uses a fabric dolls for their degenerate AR
Based weeaboos

until you realize they can barely see

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yea that shit will take off in next 50 years.
Imagine going to a special hooker place, they give you AR glasses and you select a package that what you want - it can be anime girl, 18y.o. Britney Spears or Hermione, whatever the fuck rocks your boat.
The glasses then superimpose the looks onto the hooker deepfake style(but much more advanced), and she is dressed the same as your selection so everything matches. Then the fucking begins. Basically you'll be able to experience all your sexual fantasies first hand in the future.

hah I remember when that was a legitimate concern, that would kill VR. Now nobody talks or gives a fuck about it lol

MAYBE we will get Half Life 3 since they can use it to sell this piece of shit VR headset
I was in SGD in 2015 and I remember by teacher who was an ex epic dev talking nonstop in sgd 111 how VR was the future and all this bullshit
ahahha so glad he was wrong, fuck him, fuck waketech, fuck epic and FUCK VR

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Friend of mine who VRs frequently says he has to shit a lot bc of it. Not a bad side effect really.

>still seething 4 years later
LMAO

Fuck Valve, I pray that their VR scheme fails miserably.

"Yes."
HLVR takes place 'after' Episode 3, causally, and thus 'causally parallel' to Half-Life 3, while chronologically preceding it. It may be possible to untangle this knot in Half-Life 3.

Tyler...

Ahh ok you've never tried VR, right.

new lows for the sour grapes brigade.

Nope, went from Vive to chink
I can actually shitpost on this thing unlike my three year old Vive where even filling my fov it was hard to make letters out

What happened to her

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That was multiplayer though

Fuck that is dark, but totally believable. Doll brothels are starting to take off. Some AR like you are describing will just boost it.
I can also see the AR tech blasting off the sex doll industry in general
>Get home from wage slave job
>Put in AR glasses
>Featureless doll body is now your wifeu
>Have long and rewarding talk as the AI has a database of your relationship stored locally.

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What if I'm already gay tho?

Hag by now obviously

Doesn't sound dark at all

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See

Well then, you will know what you're saying is complete fucking bullshit.

vr is shit and everything looks like it has parkinsons

Go into steamvr home and bring up the steam menu desktop
Use that comfortably I dare you

So would footage from a camera on your head you dumb nigger
Your brain knows when you're about to move it doesn't when it's someone else

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it's stupid to think there will be actual brothels and actual cyber-hookers or even robo-hookers. the whole point of all of this technology is to replace those things.

regardless of all that by 2050 we're probably going to have already been hit by free and easy mind uploading through in-place replacement nanotech. people will all be SIMs on the net.

Cool story. How does that relate to being able to play virtual arcade games ? It doesn't. The resolution is absolutely fine for that purpose.

It's funny how much nicer to use the Oculus desktop is.

steam menu desktop is garbage but virtual desktop and bigscreen are both much better. i'm sure pimax improves it significantly but is it really good enough to be worth doing for anything but porn?

>is it really good enough to be worth doing for anything but porn?
porn addicts please leave.

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just like what was said in the 90s

sex and cures for loneliness always sells well. Whoever figures this shit out first will become multi-billionaire

Legibility affects every game, especially any game with aiming
Ironsights are great now, I can read what's on items as casually as I would irl instead of doing an impersonation of a granny checking if food is out of date
I really hope Index is as clear or clearer so this 2016 cope phase can finally end

>by 2050
lol someone's young and optimistic
you might as well be flying car/lunar base preaching in the 20th century

god i love pantyhose so much

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This points out one obstacle to any of their BCI plans - the need for really good skin contact for even the most basic, least invasive forms of BCI. It's easy to do this with disposable adhesives, but obviously not viable for a consumer electronics product. You also can't ask people to shave their head.

I think we are a far bit off from mind uploading. I think we need to address a lot of philosophical and psychological questions before we get too deep into brain tech.

This is true. I'm sure all the pieces are there in open source land. I'm sure whoever developed has a head start though. Just depends on motivation to lead the AR sex doll revolution.

So all I need is a GPU that can drive 4320x2160 at a locked 90Hz, a room totally void of furniture, and a bunch of hardware to mount on my walls?

How has this amazing tech not caught on yet???

I was asking specifically about virtual desktops. Of course more clarity and FOV are always better, in general, but does the pimax actually improve virtual desktops enough to be seriously usable?

>How has this amazing tech not caught on yet???
it has. that's why literally every tech company in the world is racing to jump into it.

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>Anri quit doing porn before VR porn took off
>No Anri GF VR
>Goddamn it all...

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Have you tried not being poor?

I think the most disappointing to me about VR is the porn. Even the porn games available rght now are kinda shit and janky.

Headset + gaming pc = 1500$-2000$
Dedicated VR room + safety conversion = 50,000$-100,000$

Shattered Horizon VR when?

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s-shut up

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>only $50k for a VR room
Are you going a seated experience? You will need at least an industrial warehouse for room scale.

All I can see is how they didn't parent the skirt bones to each of the legs, so the skirt clips. And how proportions weren't adjusted on the avatar to work well with full body tracking (the leg on the avatar is still bent)

>tfw still no decent VR MMO in the market
It's all I ever want.

Isn't Orbus meant to be good?

thighs too big

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You are factually gay

ESO could do a cheap port since it's already designed for first person and bethesda seems to like VR, we could meme the devs into doing it.

Plz stop. I already nutted to Anri thrice already.

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undeniably based.

>look it up
>its real
About time. I wanted VR but didnt want to support Samsung or Facejew

bosom too plentiful

>It has caught on
Clearly, yes.

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Clarity = better ease of use.

Is it confirmed yet what kind of sensor are they using? I hope it's not fucking lighthouses.

keep telling yourself that, faggot. fortnite launcher will die like games for windows live did

it is lighthouses

It's fucking lighthouses. If you want shitty inside-out cameras you have plenty of other options.

It reminds of that scene on the cyber punk trailer with the kid in his VR headset I'm honestly surprised at how easy it seems for her like if it was natural I wonder if this how boomers feel about kids with iPads

It has the same concealed lighthouse sensors the knuckles use, you can see faint blue dots.

Fuck. Drilling isn't an option for me so does this mean I have to buy tripods?

3M adhesives, tripods, or clamps.

just place it on a shelf or a table