VtMB 2

>First person with contextual third-person actions - twitter.com/VtM_Bloodlines/status/1108948381127204865 (embed) (embed) (embed)
>Brian Mitsoda is lead writer alongside Avellone and Cara Ellison (who in particular wrote a chunk of the side quests)
>Rik Schaffer the original composer is back (confirmed via e-mail)
>Game has modding support, available Day 1
>Takes place 15 years after Bloodlines
>Direct sequel to Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines with in-game references to the events of Bloodlines
>Fan-favorite characters from Bloodlines returning
>Deb of Night type feature will make an appearance as confirmed by Mitsoda
>Set in Seattle with seamless hub worlds
>Player is a thin-blood at first, choose a Clan later on
>Huge emphasis on character creation. You can choose your background, gender pronoun, employment history, body type and fashion
>Game starts off with a Mass Embrace where the player is among the new vampires born from the event, you're captured and brought to a court of prominent vampires like the first game to recount the events of the mass embrace before being sentenced to death, court is firebombed and you escape, thrust into Seattle to find out who's responsible
>Main side-questline involves hunting down and finding all the other thin-blood created from the Mass Embrace, each will have their own story about entering into their new life
>NPCs can react to you depending on what background you chose for your character in character creation, for example you can be a cop, a coroner, or a barista for a more neutral and blank slate background
>The humanity system returns, so killing innocents brings you closer to the inner beast
>If your humanity is low enough it will have implications with your dialogue choices
>Way more dialogue than Bloodlines

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>Play:
1. VtMB again (obviously)
2. Legacy of Kain
3. Bloodlust Shadowhunter
4. The tabletop
5. Vampyr
6. Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption
7. Sacrosanct and Ordinator (Skyrim)

>Watch:
1. Interview with a Vampire (1994, Film)
2. World of Darkness (2017, Documentary)
3. Kindred: The Embraced (1996, TV Show)
4. Bram Stoker's Dracula
5. Blade series
6. Only Lovers Left Alive
7. Underworld series
8. What We Do in the Shadows
9. The Fearless Vampire Killers (1967, Film)
10. 30 Days of Night
11. Dracula: Untold
12. Nosferatu
13. Byzantium
14. Perfect Creature
15. Let the right one in
16. The hunger
17. Vampires
18. Forever Knight
19. Near Dark
20. Nosferatu the Vampyre
21. Shadow of the Vampire
22. Daybreakers
23. Vampire's Kiss

>Listen:
1. Deb of Night (debofnight.andcuriouser.com/)
2. Chinatown theme (VtMB)
3. Hollywood theme (VtMB)
4. Downtown theme (VtMB)
5. Chiasm - Isolated
6. Massive Attack - Angel

>Read
1. Dracula
2. Vampire: The Masquerade 20th Anniversary Edition
3. mega.nz/#F!2nIH1ChC!3TkI45GJ3vhbk0zZ8NCOaA!HjYkGK5T
4. Carmilla

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>You can use telekinesis, turn into mist to go through vents and glide
>Blood resonance from VtM 5th edition will appear in this game. Using your enhanced vampire senses, you can see when NPCs are experiencing an intense emotion like fear, desire, pain, joy and anger. Drinking a person with a strong resonance will give you an immediate bonus to things like melee power or seduction. If you drink a particular resonance constantly, you will acquire a taste for it and this will give you permanent buffs called "merits".
>No quest markers, natural exploration just like the original
>You can scale buildings, there's an emphasis on versatility
>Level design is reminiscent of the original Deus Ex, you're offered many different pathways to approach a particular scenario
>Lots of secrets and hidden pathways to find
>Emphasis on fluid combat, using vampiric speed to slide in and out of melee range and slash people and execute them with melee weapons. You can get special cinematic finishers in combat when you execute people a la Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Counters are in. Guns exist and are treated as temporary opportunities, you pick em up, use it, then discard it and move on.
>Seattle as a hub world is described as "very active", crowds gather outside clubs and muggers prey on victims in side allies
>It’s still called the Masquerade, so if you eat someone in public or turn into a bat in front of a bar you’ll get in trouble not only with the police, but also some beefier supernatural watchdogs
>Your actions dynamically effect the npc environment i.e If you continuously suck on people's blood in full view of the public, they'll be less wary of going to those areas and you'll see less citizens wandering the streets

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>thin blood at first
what does this even mean? I thought a thin blood was always a thin blood and could only temporarily use clan disciplines by drinking vampire blood

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diablerie

>You can use telekinesis, turn into mist to go through vents and glide
Bloodlust Shadowhunter did similar stuff, maybe check that out if it sounds interesting to you. It's kind of like VtMB but with randomized dungeon crawling and more puzzles.

It's Redemption any good?

Fuck off Nobody gives a shit if you're trans on Yea Forums.

youtube.com/watch?v=NyBm84-eZMo&t=
soon

Story is actually better than bloodlines' but the gameplay is dated shite.

just report and move on

>Nobody gives a shit if you're trans on Yea Forums.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>no fright night and the lost boys
gay

All the trigger warning shit makes no sense to me, though. You're playing as fucking vampires. What kind of a game do people expect?

with all these powers it sounds as if your an earlier generstion vampire and not a thin blood. Last I checked they could barely do anything, what changed?

>Fan-favorite characters from Bloodlines returning
I think VV is returning. Her voice actress narrates the new trailer, and you can see someone smoking with a fancy cigarette holder at the end

>Nobody gives a shit if you're trans on Yea Forums.
doubt

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>>Player is a thin-blood at first, choose a Clan later on
I'm not big on WoD but I thought Thinbloods were literally fucked for eternity as far as "powerlevel" goes

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Diablerie.

Nah, you can "thicken" the blood with diableries. Of course how you're supposed to overpower anyone as a thin blood is another question.

rent free

Well if anything I'm not against it, it's a neat idea for a starting character.
Although going straight for Diablerie seems a little big, I mean, it's generally seen as a big fucking no no

>You can use telekinesis, turn into mist to go through vents and glide

This sounds horribly overpowered, or like a mandatory skill, your game will be unplayable if you dont pick it.

If they come up with some bullshit alternative to upgrade from thin-blood status that doesn't involve diablerie, it shouldn't be a big deal. This is a game and this is exactly the sort of thing where games should have a bit of leeway in making tweaks to the lore for the sake of fun.

They found unicorn blood.

not to mention in the roleplaying game you might not want to. their alchemy discipline is pretty fucking good.

In V5 "sanctioned diablerie" is used as a carrot on a stick by the Camarilla to manipulate thinbloods into doing what they want. Usually in cases of blood hunts.

The taint of diablerie would still be seen on you by every vampire, but I guess the Cammies doesn't really give a fuck about thinbloods anyway.

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stop posting this thread you shill nobody wants you game

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Jesus, that book
>The best thing about rpg is that you can roleplay as whoever you want
>But if you rp as someone bad you are the scum of the earth, and should kill yourself

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>thin blood
>somehow picks a clan after

unless you are diableirizing an actual vampire in the beginning of the game (and i cant see how that could possibly happen) this is bullshit and completely lore breaking. im triggered.

Thin-blood portion of the game is essentially a tutorial. After a while you diablerize a powerful dude and pick a clan.

>muggers prey on victims in side allies
i.e. the takeout menu.

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>unless you are diableirizing an actual vampire in the beginning of the game

This is what they are going for.

vampires eat their way up the food chain by cannibalizing stronger vamps.

it's what Lacroix was attempting with the sarcophagus in the first game, eating an antediluvian for a massive power boost

>not being a chad ventrue with refined tastes who refuses to chomp on some homeless bum who wanders into the wrong alley

This all grand but I'll wait until actual gameplay.
I want it all to be true, don't get me wrong, but half of the shit the devs say usually don't even make it into the final game.

1980's version

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I just hope there's still a Malkavian option that goes balls to the walls with the insanity.

that would get you outcast by every other vampire since they can sense that shit

what the fuck are they thinking

No I mean the muggers themselves are the takeout. Anyone who inadvertently picks a fight with a vamp in a dark place.

The immediate nature of a Diaberalist is only readily apparent to Vampires using Auspex, among other supernatural beings with similar skills. Post more Tzimscie babes.

>Admitting to being a Lorelet
lol

probably nu lore

They're thinking most vampires are monstrously hypocritical, don't actually care all that much, and that the stigma is largely a Camarilla invention so that there is a social bias against those taking power from the Elders and Methusalehs, where as they remain free to do so.

They're also thinking the majority of vampires don't have immediate access to the ability to identify a Diaberalist.

>But if you rp as someone bad you are the scum of the earth, and should kill yourself
That's not even what it says. It says it's fine to RP as those things as long as it's kept to the game and you're not just living out fantasies about your real beliefs.

>implying muggers are any better than the homeless in terms of quality

>not knowing about the lore
what an ignorant faggot

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>DAE remember bloodlines?!
>DAE remember le epic STOP sign? lmao!

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I doubt this game will have soul. The current age barely has any culture left, it's all just lgbt, feminist, and racial identity propaganda.

It’s rare and it has a good chance of killing you. There was a good chance that if the andiluvian was in the sarcophagus, which he obviously wasn’t, and he was drained by LaCroix that his mind would have been obliterated and his body taken over.

Which means progression will likely be generation by generation, and we’re reaching nowhere near the power level of our character in Bloodlines because that would require munching down like 6 times, which while technically possible would take hundreds of years to kick off unless vampire society is in near total collapse.

vampires immediately recognize someone who commits diablerie without training. its instinctual.
as for it being a camarilla invention, not really, just about every single organized vampire society in the lore illegalized diablerie.

unless you are hunted 24/7 by other vampires and are an outcast just trying to survive for having done this, this will trigger me as a lorefag.

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Worked out well for the Tremere kek. Besides ill wait to see how they spin it before getting mad.

Caine was in the sarcophagus and escapes before you get there.

I would've been more surprised if they didn't went for it.
Even on Yea Forums in just about every VtM threads you'd see someone post the Malk conversation screen.

Actually Chunk was in the sarcophagus and the "bloody" handprints on the Elizabeth Dane were jelly donut stains.

smiling jack steals the antediluvian you dweeb

Why do you faggots do this?

You clearly arent fans of the game.

Drain a higher gen kindred and your good my nigga.

aids free as well fag..

Nah. It was just some Assyrian mummy. Jack broke into the ship because Caine (as the cabby) tipped him off to it, he killed the crew, and shoved a bunch of C4 in it.

This is however the best alternative theory.

RENT.

FREE.

It was literally a mummy, you can see him sitting next to it in any of the endings where it’s opened.

Why should I care what a literal who thinks?

>Brian Mitsoda is back and writing
>Very real possibility that Romero makes a comeback

Alright.

Romero is a hack though.

no thanks user. i don't need subversive propaganda in my life.

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Nigga i meant Romero the graveyard guy that Mitsoda voices. Who are you talking about?

George is fuckin dead.

No they're not. The stains on the aura last between 1-12 years based on the Generation gap and can only be seen with Auspex. A Diaberalist "vibe" also exists that lasts months based on the Generations gap, and is only detectable by those with High Humanity. Sanctioned Diaberalies and explicitly mentioned being performed by the Camarilla, and are fair game in the Sabbat.

Don’t recommend Vampyr it was shit.

I thought you meant John Romero, lol

I'm playing Bloodlines for the first time right now but I'm not that far yet.

the writing seems a bit faggy because they assume everyone is easily upset over little things in a game but there isn't really anything wrong with what they're saying.

HE HAS NO GENDER
HE HAS NO DICK
THIS TARD
IS MENTALLY SICK

DISCORD
TRANNY TARD
DISCORD
TRANNY TARD IS HERE

Tremere made themselves extremely useful and that+s pretty much the only reason why they weren't exterminated. Camarilla had no dedicated spellcasters, so to speak, compared to Tzimisce and Assamites who have been doing their own blood magic since forever. And it was also a case of Tremere looking for protection since they pissed off Tzimisce badly.

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I think it's one faggot who keeps posting a screenshot of the digital deluxe version pricetag, trying to pass it off as if the base game cost $90
His life must be really sad or idk

>Literally everything you wrote was wrong
>As a lorefag

Jesus christ.

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>that Romero makes a comeback

The Zombie killing hunter named Romero was a little too on the nose for me, but it was all in good fun. I do however, have a sinking feeling that this game won't have that much that's all in good fun just because that's sort of fallen by the wayside in game design. We have to be SERIOUS, as video games and video game stories are SERIOUS BUISNESS. I'm hoping for Chunk or the black merchant to come back.

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Good evening, Deb
AHEM
Fuck Tremere

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> gender pronoun

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Could say there's a bloodhunt on some fag, you manage to corner them after they escaped from other Kindred and are all fucked up, but still strong enough to be a challenge for a thinblood shitter like yourself.

LATER SHILL

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>could have put the game in the 80s
>went with current year instead
>seattle
>for no reason other than that's where they live
YIKES

you're only a thinblood for the tutorial section

>assamite
>blood magic

aren't they like arab assassins?

So from what I understand deblerizing is drinking another vampires blood and becoming the same gen as them? What happens if you drank the blood of a weaker vampire?

>Already confirmed to be an SJW game

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Oh no, whatever will (You) do! Set it to "he", I guess? Oh wait, you're not gonna play as a female vampire, even though you're boy, right, user?

Has this shit EVER swayed anyone to buy a game? All this social media nonsense is just people patting each other on the back, most likely people who don't even buy games in the first place.

At least they'll be writing what they know. Trying to do a period piece in a city none of them know anything about doesn't sound like a good idea.

It wasn't. The gameplay was shit not the entire game. The atmosphere was good, the lore was interesting and the main character was ok.

See

>cara ellison
ruined

Are they going to make the stealth actually good this time? Save scumming was pretty much the only way to sneak successfully in the original.

Don't you think it's a bit early to make a fucking VTM general 24/7 on Yea Forums for a game that isn't out for another year and we know nothing about outside of Devs statements?

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Thee fact they kept Jeanettes outfit as slutty as it was gives me a small semblance of hope for this game.

Fucking hell, the shilling is unreal. Not even trying to hide it.

Games do well or poorly independent of the politics behind it unless that’s literally all it’s based around, and then they just sell to their camps.

Mass Embraces are a common Sabbat tactic during feuds. You embrace a shit tonne of people, give them only the briefest idea of what they've become and what they can do, give them an overarching task with high lethality, and you get to keep those who adapted the fastest or had the most potential. Except it seems your character was found by more moderate Vampires and given directions to join society proper, provided they prove themselves by doing the exact same thing the Sabbat thinbloods have to do as a group.

Ultimately it's pretty much exactly what the Camarilla did with the Childer in Bloodlines 1.

The gameplay was half the game.

Why no buffy

what am i in for lads

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Only the melee was god awful, gun mechanics and stealth were adequate.

>"REE PRONOUNS REE"
>he or her or them

Wow whoa what a fucking cuckpilled woke piece of shit whoa wow WOW WHOA HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS WHOA THIS IS SO PROGRESSIVE WHOA WOW THIS CANT STAND WOW.

DAMN DUDES YOU CAN BE A HIM A HER OR A THEY WE HAVE TO BOYCOTT THIS WOW WHOA HEY THIS CANT STAND WOW!

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People to be sour that they're not part of the superior Clan and try to take it out on you.

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shittiest clan in the game

>be a thin-blood
>somehow still get cool vampire powers

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What the fuck is with that art style? It's just photoshopped photos.

Sucking up to Lacroix unironically.

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Look up vampire Alchemy in v5. Play your cards right and it's pretty dope. Then again

>Resonance
v5 has so many things that just fucking annoying me to no end.

The thin blood from VTMB was still able to see the future.

well the thing is alt-righter is mean as an insult to anyone mildly conservative. i don't see them mentioning anyone mildly jihadi, or mildly antifi, or mildly blak lives matter-y, and all of these groups have been classified by fbi as a terrorist organizations. this was a job at conservatives and i know exactly what kind of a game this will be so no thanks..

I don't give a fuck what anyone says, this game sounds amazing and is something we've needed for years. God bless the devs.

*jab

Vampire tier:
>Nosferatu

Twilight tier:
>All else

Why are you forcing this narrative that this game is "SJW"?

Why does being left of center mean "SJW" now? Why do you underage new faggots think its just a catch all term for people with liberal mindsets, because it isnt.

Its a term for a specific type of mindset, people who extremely rabid and try to destroy others because of their "superior opinions". This isnt that, its literally one writer who is even remotely approaching that and even then all thats even remotely been said about any liberalness being in the game is a pronoun selector, which isnt even as fucking extreme as Saints Row 2 which had a fucking sex-slider.

You people are ridiculous and embarrassing. Fucking /pol/fags need to leave.

This should be the OP pic.
I'm not buying this game.
That book excerpt is just something. I don't remember the old editions being like that. Time to buy Myfarog I guess.

Too bad Nosferatu is fucking boring.

Disagree, New Vegas managed to do political themes without pushing an agenda.

kek what a literal discord tranny. the game is sjw bullshit propaganda so just fuck of degenerate.

>t. 12 year old wannabe stormfag.

You're correct outside of the fact that the Legion was so unfinished that they literally have no appealing qualities outside of being edgy as fuck. Other factions show their pros and cons, the legion just fucking sucks dick, literally.

VTM is described as "our world but the shadows are longer and darker"

Its supposed to be a mirror of our reality.

What I meant by my statement was that games tend to sell well or poorly for reasons other than the politics of the developer unless they are extremely up front and present in the game itself. Fallout New Vegas was political, but at no point was it pontificating...excepting Loansome Road, and even that I’m not sure what the message was.

>huurrr they're just bad that means they're unfinished
hey maybe the faction with slaves was purposely written to just be evil, just a thought

fuck off /pol/fag

playing 1.
game keeps crashing when I try to leave after delivering the sarcophagus to lacroix. the loadscreen between inside and outside the building doesn't finish and the game stops working. halp.

t. tranny

clan mod and the not-plus version of the common fan patch

Let's get some more comfy music recs going:
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>jelly of Tremere chads

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Try "changelevel2 la_hub_1" in console to just go directly outside of the building. I've had a similar issue before, just reloading an earlier save fixed it too in case trying to use the console also crashes.

No they literally are unfinished. Obsidian had lots of quests, areas and companions planned for them that never made it to the final game.

A game having the "correct" politics can in theory lead to favorable press coverage which would in turn lead to more sales, the problem is game journos are too openly corrupt and bad at their jobs to do this with any degree of tact.

The legion faction was factually unfinished at launch, tons of content was either cut or never implemented due to time constraints. Think before you speak mongoloid.

nma-fallout.com/threads/j-e-sawyer-on-the-legion-and-post-endgame-play.198259/

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Official clan music is the shit.
youtube.com/watch?v=_DSEldHcJ7o

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No, pls don't play. It's too good.

Avellone commented before on the unseen side of the legion that never got developed because time constraints that would have fleshed them out some more.

thanks

Rudi is a practising muslim who protects gays and trans...

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They have a good synergy though. It might not be a bad thing.

youtu.be/Sa0qQlCfTYU?t=1210

it doesn't say outright in the Quran how gay is too gay
in the OT I think it comes down to whether or not you lay with a man "as one would a woman", ie penetration

>You're correct outside of the fact that the Legion was so unfinished that they literally have no appealing qualities outside of being edgy as fuck. Other factions show their pros and cons, the legion just fucking sucks dick, literally.
Other then the fact Legion territory is the safest, r*iders have been hunted to extinction and low taxes.
The general population are well off and the corruption of NCR isn't present, like Brahmin barons ass fucking everyone, it's a tragedy that the Legion settlement didn't make it, it would make retards that don't even get to know the Legion understand.

That bartender in Downtown club, oof.

You're mentally ill.

I don't know, user. That shit kinda pales in comparison when you also have the likes of ancient blood sorcerers embraced when "The night when the stones spoke and the skies cried a blood rain".

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>mfw no mommy tzimisce gf to make me beautiful
why even live?

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>living out fantasies
Like being transgender?

i want to hug a cute tzimisce girl!

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Could be richfag hobo hunters.

The only NPCS who make any mention of this are Cass, Arcade, Raul and that merchant inside Cottonwood Cove, IIRC. It's not exactly spelled out what the benefits and negatives of the Legion are compared to the other factions, considering the first major encounter the player has with them is fucking Nipton.

wtf, freaks

nosferatu gf at least makes some sense, sewers, rats, schrecknet. so many possibilities.

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>wakes up from torpor
>literally undoes a tremere curse in under a week

ur-shulgi is about as hardcore as they come. even back when he joined assamites he was already a beast.

nosferatu gf is okay too as long as she isn't too stinky or a bitch like imalia

Didn't he eat all the muslim Assamites he could find in order to undo the curse?

how rare is Auspex? in the game IIRC 2-3 clans have it. it also doesn't seem like some kind of special discipline.

is there any way to conceal this diablerie aura?

>wakes up
>learns that his Clan has fucked up again and became riddled with some monotheistic hogwash
>directly purges them like the founder would have wanted
is there any 4th Gen more based than ur-Shulgi?

Man, 12 years is nothing in vampire time. I'd diablerize someone then live as a vampire neet for a while before doing it again.

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Auspex is shared among a few clans and specific bloodlines. The Specific ability to see Auras is quite basic, only requiring two bloodpoints into the skill. Some Thaumaturgy spells also allow you to see an individuals aura

1 point in Advanced Obfuscation powers allows your to completely hide your aura or make it appear differently than it actually is.

Didn't Assamites join Camarilla in v5? At least the Muslim refugees. Which may also be a gambit on Ur-Shulgi's part by seemingly dividing the clan in two so they have eyes in both camps.

>12 years is nothing in vampire time
How fucking depressing would being a vampire be? Just watching the world go to shit at record pace

Do you need to put points in stealth or can you just rely on obfuscate alone?

You don't need stealth at all if you can obfuscate. Just be careful where you are when you break invisibility.

Ok but will my appearance change when I lose humanity

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>No quest markers

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except he doesnt. That was just a random mummy and a random sacrophage
The whole thing was Smiling jack's hoax to cause chaos

Ok cool, I'm not going to put any points in stealth and see how it goes

>Nazi tranny vampire
See pol? Something for everybody.

fuck off Gary

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Just don't forget to save often while doing stealth, better safe than sorry.

>dont open it
I'm on my first playthrough and I think I just got the quest to investigate "it." I want to open it even more now.

>Female player, 43 years old

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Being a straight, white, cis male I have never had to worry about inclusiveness from a personal perspective but the more we get the better the industry will be.

About to start playing for the first time. Should I just stick with one of the two patches and skip the mods for a first playthrough? Are there any major differences between 1.2 and the unofficial patch as far as the bug fixes go?

Always play with the unofficial patch. The game is a bit buggier and is missing stuff throughout the game without it.

>Should I just stick with one of the two patches and skip the mods for a first playthrough?
Yes, mods have mixed opinions
>Are there any major differences between 1.2 and the unofficial patch as far as the bug fixes go?
1.2 is still pretty buggy and softlocks or crashes more often. It also has problems with running on modern systems like blurry textures or just not working on Windows 10 at all. No reason to play just with 1.2 unless you really care about seeing the state it was in with the last official patch or are speedrunning.

You never had to worry about inclusiveness because white guys are the default in media.

Why is narcissism so rampant amongst Westerners

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>TFW you're not white
>TFW you have a skin condition
>TFW you never wondered why you aren't represented
Are these faggots that bad at escapism?
>bi-racial
Skin tone is all you care about really?

Vampyr is such a pile of shit jesus christ...
put sould reaver in there or smt

Not this user, but I'm in the same boat. Should I use the Plus Patch or just go with Basic? Does the Plus Patch add much?

>Players no longer assign attribute points to determine their abilities; instead, you are capable of handling any weapon you come across. In the demo this included a shotgun and pipe to take out a few enemies who were set on killing you.
Please be a misunderstanding.
>Bloodlines 2 may share immersive sim elements (first person perspective, rummaging through items, reading logs, watching the world react to your actions) but at its core is an RPG. “There’s been kind of a dearth of really good games that aren’t ashamed to call themselves RPGs,”
Please let this point to the first quote being a misunderstanding.
>Like many of its ilk, the perspective in Bloodlines 2 is always first person, save for a few climbing animations where a third person camera is used briefly to show you ascending a wall or special combat animations.
Please don't go full retard like DXHR and MD did, no third-person ladders/wall climbing and especially no Press F to Watch Awesome Cutscene, and double especially no third-person cover shootan ffs. Please please please dont fuck this up Hardsuit, it's not too late.

I really hope VtMB2 includes critique about how all these people are vampires feeding off the sanity of regular humans.

you must mean
>no tzimisce gf to turn me into a chair

The fuck is the book gonna do about it if you are a genuine fascist?

tfw no ananasi gf

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I'm replaying Bloodlines after like 5 years. Holy shit, I forgot how atmospheric this game was. This is a truly excellent roleplaying game.

The majority ethnicity of any given country will be the default in media produced in that country, this is for many reasons but the main one is logistical. There's nothing wrong with this whatsoever.

Just installed Bloodlines 1. Any build recommendations for Gangrel? What to focus on besides brawl?

Aren't they also an anomaly among the shapeshifters by not really being influenced by the moon in any way? They can't rage either from what I remember.

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show me some fucking gameplay if you want me to give a shit shovelware dev

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when a prince calls a blood hunt on a vampire that vampire is now fair game to diablerize
which is why fledgling vampires get right in on that shit

>No Lasombra gf to actively ruin every aspect of my life till I'm on the verge of suicide


Feels kinda good actually. Fuck that shit.

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I don't know anything about WtA, I just like spider (girls)

Imagine getting triggered this hard by a passage of text that effectively says "respect the people playing at your table". The appendix pretty much says that if all of you and your mates playing the game are cool with everyone being a ruthless vampire that fucks everything in sight, go for it, but if you aren't, there are alternative playstyles baked into the core ruleset.

>tfw bloodlines 2 probably wont let you be any of the fun bloodlines and just the boring ones from 1

someone ;tldr the Lasombra

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Sabbat Ventrue with shadow powers, no reflection, and a dismissive attitude towards humans and ghouls.

Iirc they're the only shapeshifters who serve the Weaver, which accounts for all their weirdness.

>learns that his clan has fucked up
How pissed would you be to wake up from centuries of torpor to find that your clan is full of degenerates?
>Well my clan is doing OK
>guess we'll rule the world and the infidels will be destroyed in a few centuries
>blood-bonded by Tremere
>numbers down after Victorian age
>fucked up by the Bongs

Creating non-humanoid character models is difficult and time consuming, any lazy/underpaid/time constrained developer worth their salt won't bother trying.

Bear gangrel? That's cute.

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Honestly, Lasombra was the backbone of Sabbat. No idea what they are in v5, though. I kinda want to and both dread reading that book.

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>Ingame Artbook

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Honestly, big sticking point was Islam. How do you end up incorporating Islam when your founder, whom you worship, predates it as a religion? Of course his chief lieutenant would be fucking pissed.

Most of the elders fucked off to the middle east, another good bunch got killed and the pitifull rest joined the Camarilla.

>thin blood diablerize guy gets too join clans outside malks, nosferatu or tremere without being constantly hunted.
That's retarded.

The Lost Boys has more of a VtMB vibe than 90% of that movie list.

Without knowing anything about the story, to early to tell. Could as well be a legitimate Bloodhunt diablerie handed to the PC as a kind of reward.

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Sauce on the no quest marker part?

Jesus Christ can you two faggots fuck off back to your reddit hugbox

Haqim is the shit. I love his first origin story where he was basically a self-made antediluvian who killed a vampire king and queen in order to free a city they were being tyrants at. Ironically Assamite's origin was to PROTECT making against such preying upon and he realized that only by becoming monsters themselves could it be accomplished in the long run.

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>chose a clan later
probably won't buy until a mod comes out to fix that. The clans should be a bigger part of the game, even bloodlines got that kinda wrong. Your clan is a huge part of vampire identity and social structures, and not being able to chose one right off the bat could easily turn into a boring first hour slog.

Since the Sabbat got absolutely fucked by the Second Inquisition, the Lasombra, under the direction of the Amici Noctis, have begun a slow transition of half their clan over the Camarilla, which holds a more favorable position to survive the coming purge.

Even still, your not gonna go very far up the ranks for that with most vamps holding out disdain for you needing essentially handouts too not be a thin blood shitter, with malks, nos, and tremere, for various reasons they give less of a shit so it makes sense there.

Oh yeah that too
>Allah? He is like little insect
>watch this
>breaks blood bond by sheer willpower and technique in a week

It depends on the Clan. It's a much bigger deal for Tremere than it is for Brujah for example. It also isn't some inescapable thing that is always the case. People have unique situations in which they are embraced and are introduced to vampire society that throws off the norms. Saying that thats a flaw is ignoring hte entire fucking point of both the Game and the Pen and Paper.

WTF why are there only THREE (3) choices?! I'll have you know that I identify as ZE and until this "game" fixes this shit I WILL NOT BE BUYING IT!!1

isn't there literally a line in the v5 book about camarilla dangling that particular diablerie as a form of reward to the ever-growing number of thinbloods?

how does transformation into a proper vampire actually work though? if you diablerize a nosferatu for example, do you just instantly become one or is a long term transformation?

makes me wonder how they'll handle that, since if it's a choice I don't see there being ANY narrative reason why the PC would 'want' to willingly become a sewer dwelling, rat-eating creepy monster.

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Didn't we hear there are going to be six initial clans plus Malkavians as a free DLC one week later?
Well the Camarilla in 5th edition is 7 clans so i have a pretty good idea which clans are going to show up.

We literally haven't heard anything about which clans are going to be in. People are making assumptions based off of tabs on the game website. They're fair assumptions but we don't know.

I think you gain access to the disciplines first and the curse slowly starts taking effect. For Nossies, they slowly start turning ugly and their bodies start morphing painfully.

Yeah.
Also some people said it takes decades for the aura of a diablerist to clean again. In V5 it only takes the generation difference if the diablerist is lower generation than the diablerized. So it would only be a measly year of black veins in your aura.

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Cause the Nosferatu have some really fucking strong disciplines? My guess is thin bloods who join them assume they can handle being ugly as shit in exchange for power, which is one of the big reasons they try too go up in the ranks in the first place.

You guys are such fags, who gives a fuck if the blue haired writer puts in pronouns, I just wanna know if I can bang big tiddy goth vampires without the screen fading to black

I wonder how Nossies would see such thin bloods, though. It's one thing when your sire makes you into a Nosferatu, usually under dubious circumstances, and something else entirely when you CHOOSE to be one when you could choose another clan. You'd probably either get bitter resentment for "throwing your life away" or mad respect for doing it willingly.

I can't really imagine a story hook where the character is given a gallery of vampires to choose from like it's an open buffet.
The player will of course get to choose but i have to think that ingame the character wasn't given the choice who to diablerize.

yeah okay sure, but then why not join the tremere?

get all the power(if not more power) and still look like a human. nosferatu's clan curse seems like a huge deal breaker, user.

>Watch Dracula Untold

You need to have some quality control on your list user.

Kuei-jin is best.

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>why not spend eternity as a tiny piece of a giant ponzy scheme that is part of another bigger ponty scheme
Vampire life is already a dog-eat-dog world where everyone punches down and being a Tremere just adds another hierarchy of people commanding you around like a slave.

trying to replay the game here.
any idea why my fps drop to 20 in the main hubs?
60 fps everywhere else. already tried playing around with settings in the nvidia panel.

here's a pic.

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this, tremere pay a huge price to be able to learn their blood magic

Can anyone help with this? Playing on the newest unoffical patch and the UI/HUD looks horribly stretched.

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probably because the game only runs on one core

not something you can fix

There was a lot to be said for the parts of California VTMB was set in. It was clear they knew a lot about the city's atmosphere and it showed.

You likely wouldn't give a shit about mortal affairs.

They'll probably have a bag over their head and a choice that's something like
>The Kindred under the hood is a
>Malk
>Toreador
>Mongrel

This is giving me mixed feelings, guess I'll just wait and see till the game is actually out before deciding if I play it or not.

You're still living in the world, bud

>first person with contextual 3rd person
DROPPE unless theres a 3rd person mod on day 1

I mean, you CAN dig a well aka go to bumfuck nowhere with couple of people so you can survive or just torpor yourself. As much as Camarilla tries to portray otherwise nothing really forces you into vampire politics. You can be loner. But eternity is a lot of time to be alone.

As you said that was more to do with the legion being unfinished rather then obsidian shitting on them. It's obvious they had a preference, or at least Avellone did with yes man but they didn't make it entirely one sided for everyone save Legion who didn't get enough time to be fleshed out.

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>but the shadows are longer and darker"
Is that why the literal monsters are lefties?

And? You'll have more important things to be concerned about then giving a shit about retarded kine politics and gender shit, like retarded vampire politics.

>First person with contextual third-person actions
>You can get special cinematic finishers in combat when you execute people a la Deus Ex: Human Revolution.
I don't want Deus Ex, I want Bloodlines, BLOODLINES, is that fucking hard for the devs to understand, a improved version of Bloodlines.

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>i don't want deus ex with vampires, I want deus ex with vampires, DEUS EX WITH VAMPIRES

Did you fucking play Bloodlines or are you just here to shill for Paradox ?

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>Guns exist and are treated as temporary opportunities, you pick em up, use it, then discard it and move on.
Stop forcing this lie

>ur-shulgi is about as hardcore as they come
Yeah but do you want to meet one of Malkav's direct childer?
They have shit like The Eater and the Plague Maiden

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If you didn't play VtMB in first person then you're a literal troglodyte

That's not even a fucking vampire user, it's a cousin of the werewolves

Agree that cinematic finishers are cancer and I'm baffled at the popularity of that trend, but other than that I've seen nothing alarming in what they've said about the perspective or combat. The first game's combat was so janky that literally anything would be a step up

I did. It's literally Deus Ex with vampires. Was just playing it, started a new character yesterday(a Tremere, to get that sweet haven at the chantry).

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youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0qQlCfTYU

Hour long interview with soem of the devs in case anyone missed it

>In V5 it only takes the generation difference if the diablerist is lower generation than the diablerized.
That has always been the case

>implying the original vtmb's combat was anything even close to good
It had charming moments, but it was clunky as hell and kinda broken, and my god, those cancerous bossfights.

Literally almost anything would be a step up.

I'm playing Tremere on my most playthrough as well. I'd not done that class before, and my fucking god, the thaumaturgy is strong as fuck.

But it's not saying that, it's calling out a specific subgroup with certain political views with what feels like something out of left field.
I'm left leaning myself and I don't like it, why even include that shit? It's like me reading the rulebook of Cyberpunk 2020 and I come across a passage going all preachy, telling me commies do not belong at the table. Why is the tabletop RPG I'm playing trying to give me life lessons?

>People who never experienced Gangrel melee
Go back and rip & tear you fuckers, talking is for pussies.

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Most of this is about character creation options and the more options in there the better

for me, it's katana malk
the patricians choice

troika literally looked at deus ex for inspiration when making bloodlines

chill user

The writing was also shit, no wonder everyone forgot it a week after its release.

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The game on easy mode.

Too be fair i'd say it's half and half depending on the circumstances of the nos you deal with. Some would be pissed at you, others who have accepted their lot in life would give you respect for being ok with being a loner and actively trying too better yourself from being a thin blood. One thing you need too remember is they typically have fairly shit humanity, and that leaves a more giving less of a shit how you got there mentality.

Not him but that was my first playthrough user.

If you meet a guy called Saulot, remember to kill him.

My first and favorite clan.

I once got through the entire Hollowbrook Hotel dungeon without ever letting the timer run out on my protean warform. Shredded through all the minibosses like that Tremere fire wizard and the twin Lasombra girls without even pausing. It was fun as hell, but the combat system was still clunky as fuck.

Fuck off Tremere you pozzed cunt

Look, I don't have that much of a problem with Rudi. The idea of caitiff's forming their own clan, because they're shit on by the rest of the clans makes sense.
The problem I have is how the entire Caitiff "clan" is portrayed.
The subtext when you're reading through their chapter seems to be their embodying the ideas of the intersectional pyramid and have the least privilege or whatever.

Kill Saulot and get a free playstation 5.

Do you know what Caitiff means?
Rudi is an Anarch leading his own little Anarch group.

But you did have third person finishers in bloodlines 1

>katana Malk with the Seuss Suit
No other way to do it.

>I don't want Deus Ex, I want Bloodlines.
The irony of this post.

no

it's the natural conclusion of individualist society

that's fine as long as she makes my face into the seat

Caitiff means without a clan.
To be recognized as a clan, you need to have an Antediluvian. Rudi "creating his own clan" despite not having a high generation, and being active on the scene is not a problem. Instead of having abstract elders or Caine, who you never see, and instead having a flesh and blood guy who is going around and doing things is more interesting for the plot.
Instead of the chicago by night "there's these two Methuselahs who are secretly mind controlling all the kindred to fight each other" you have a flesh and blood guy walking around and doing stuff, being simultaneously the weakest "clan head", and simultaneously the most active is a good premise.

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>implying this isn't the fault of groupthink retards

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Just checking but you realize that Rudi is a Gangrel, right?
That's literally stated multiple times in the corebook.

>The idea of caitiff's forming their own clan, because they're shit on by the rest of the clans makes sense.
They already did that in the Sabbat, they are called Panders. Not sure if they still exist in v5, but they are considered a legitimate clan.

Gary's dope as fuck though. I'm not even a nossie fanboy

Yes, boss.

Wait, the Panders and Rudi are different things?
I thought Rudi was the leader of the Panders.

Same here desu. have mixed feelings about the whole thing. The greentext in the first posts sounds great but then I see some of the writing in the newer book, how they approach certain themes and Cara Ellison's twitter feed and I worry.

I never got around to playing this game but I always enjoyed the threads; I seem to recall that there was a start up guide image posted sometimes, does anyone have it?

Panders are named after Joseph Pander, the guy who united the Caitiff in the Sabbat and forced them to recognize them as a legitimate clan. This happened in the american continent during the 20th century.
Rudi is an "european" gangrel in Denmark who leads the local anarchs.

What the fuck was her deal.
>Help her rise to power
>Sinks you to the sea
Why couldn't she like..exile you to another state or something.

>mfw this is the reality for all Tzimisce fetishists

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I have no idea where I got that from then. I swear I read that Rudi was leading the Panders.

Because you'd probably come back and cause trouble. There was no reason to let you live.

But why would you? If you wanted to cause trouble there was zero reason to help her.

>Trusting chinks

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yes, but outside of serious issues like outright war, you wouldn't care about their day-to-day problems

Kuei-jin have to be karmatic and symbolic.

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Torrent the GOG version and enjoy. Now fuck off from this thread already and go play it asap, and don't return until you've done so.

Pro tip:
Save Malkavs and Nosferatu for other playthroughs, don't pick either of the two as your starting clan.

1: Side with her and take down LaCroix
2: Backstab her a year later or so
Or, you might get cold feet when you see the Kuei-jin wiping out all the Kindred and being worse than LaCroix ever was.
And then you have the fact that she's probably contemptuous of you since you're a race traitor.

Why does Prince turn into such a little faggot?

This, but play as malk.

He was always a faggot.

>Pro tip:
>Save Malkavs and Nosferatu for other playthroughs

Absolute brainlet tip. Play whatever clan you want. You'll miss a few things as Nosferatu and Malkavian is perfectly viable for a first playthrough.

>MFW Malkavian spoils 99% of everything
No wonder Jack says you're fucked.

Anarchs would have thrown him out if he wasn't a yes-man.

>First person with contextual third-person actions

Unironically a dealbreaker for me if they don't change it

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Knowing all the references as a Malk is the definitive way to experience the clan and Nos, amusing as their interactions are, are also best saved for when you've already experienced a good portion of the game.

Just not right off the bat.

No. Not understanding the madness is what makes the Malk a surreal experience as a first playthrough. Then the hints actually have meaning. Waiting for a second playthrough as malk just makes them all pointless because you already understand everything your saying.

Not understanding the metaphors is much more interesting than knowing them.

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>There was no reason to let you live.
You don't die with the chink ending though. More of a way to put vampires on ice is to put them in unreachable places. Those chains or ropes or whatever they were will wither in a few hundred years when things have cooled down with the entire vampire populace you just betrayed.

I find it more amusing the other way around, but I also think it's better to experience it on multiple playthroughs since it keeps the game fresh and changes it a good deal as opposed to blowing the fun right at the start.

SJWS RUINING VIDEOGAMES AGAIN

FUCK PARADOX FUCK TRANNIES

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Cool my dear redditor but what does this have to do with bl2?

>I find it more amusing the other way around
Well yeah, you clearly never experienced playing Malk as a first playthrough. You listened to Yea Forums like an idiot and missed out.

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>ex-gf was a Lasombra.
Fuck that explains a lot.

what about all the patches and shit?

Regular fan patch is good to start with. Plus patch is optional based on how well you handle certain points (You'll know the ones when you play the game). It allows you to skip some things that contribute little to the game. Clan quest is also pretty good.

Interview with a Vampire is so damn good. No wonder it's the first one on the list.

Nothing. Which is why it's so weird that it triggers people at all.

I wouldn't say I'm triggered but worried about how certain themes are approached and presented due to the writer's biases. Because at the end of the day they present you with a narrative playground to enjoy and bad writing can ruin the experience.

Nothing. It's also an appendix that does not exist in the physical edition that was added because for reasons that I do not comprehend some retards got it in their heads that WW was a bunch of Nazis.

will we be able to mod out the sjw shit? if that's the case this is already goty 2020, cdpr btfo

God I remember that.
It was a combination of the former CEO stating in some context that in Sweden statistically 1 in 5 customers would have voted for Sweden Democrats and that the preview that they released had the Brujah Clanpage that mentioned that there also neonazi/alt-right Brujah even though that was clearly presented negatively.
Also some random example dice roll was 1,4,8,8. Which was clearly a white supremacist dog whistle.

Never forget /pol/ and tumblr are exactly the same kind of retarded

are you guys going to buy her game?

i will

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It costs more than half of my monthly budget so no.

>you're monthly budget is 120
I'm sorry

Some people have it rough man

Already did, got it right after it was announced. Wanted to go GOG, but it wasn't up yet, so I went with steam. I regret nothing;

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Damn thanks for the Mega, been looking for a pdf of first edition vtm for awhile now. And it's even a good quality pdf too, time to set up some candle lights and get a glass of wine You just made my night

>thinking a sjw game can be rescued
It's over. Just accept this game is a goner.

Sure I could list things like
>shit tier dev which has only produced mediocre games
>no gameplay in the trailer
>already shilling one year before release
etc.

But because this game is infested with sjw, it's a goner and lost. Even a top tier studio like Bioware fucked up hard because of sjw and Bioware had everything
>top tier games
>top tier engine
>top tier story
>top tier funding
But look at the game. Sjw took over and literally everything they touched is shit. Everything. Some with any other sjw. Look at Apex Legend. Shilled hard and the biggest streamers got paid by EA. How did it end? It's now pretty much dead and everyone is back to either fortnite or no BR game at all.

RIP VTMB2, I wanted you, but it won't happen.

Bloodlines is literally Deus Ex with vampires you fucking idiot.

I'll wait for the reviews from creators I trust before I decide.

You'll go hungry and die.

that's aspect ratio try to tinker with config/settings

Post music that could be in the new game

I dont know the series well, is it more an immersive sim or an RPG?

>tfw really really hyped because I love VTM:B
>also in a major vampire mood
>reading Requiem Vampire Knight while listening to youtube.com/watch?v=vympzV240mM

Y'all niggers can't kill my hype, stay bitter and /pol/.

You would be a bit of a frenzied, humanityridden and insane husk after a while but I don't remember vampires being able to starve in that other sense.

You do want Deus Ex, you just don't want Human Revolution.

You'll certainly go into torpor.
Maybe some fishes eat you

>youtube.com/watch?v=f7LeC9LgeWI
This guy, he also did a video on bloodlines earlier this week. A very painful watch, great video but him playing the game was painful.
>youtube.com/watch?v=6PxbOxJRoe0
These guys are also fun.

Some "fitting" zoomer shit:
>youtube.com/watch?v=Hp4AanxpAKU
>youtube.com/watch?v=ymSgls0Ce24
>youtube.com/watch?v=FTHXC8M5gqU

Other than those, i'm not really sure. Death Rock has been dead for ages and most of the other shit I listen, which is to say to majority of it, wouldn't fit a video game.

Why is the Camarilla such faggots? What if I were a vampire with a simple dream. I want to own a decommissioned lighthouse, and I want to live at the top and nobody knows I live there. I'll feed on the blood of fishes and nothing else. Why the fuck should they bother me?

Maybe. I remember WW being kind of cranky when some movie took the idea that vampires could be brought back to life with blood after hundreds of years. Underworld I believe. That and vamps hating wolfies.
People sure liked their donought steel ideas back in the early 2k.

It's funny because resetera clearly knowns more about WOD than /pol/.

user, it literally says to put the book down and seek help if you are fascist. It says that if players want to play as a nazi, that's okay, but only as long as they get a redemption arc.

Everything about that game was unpolished shit

They co-opted all forms of tabletop. They damn well better know a lot about it.

>co-opted
I mean they mainly created these things then you came in and decided you owned it and they were the outsiders.

There have been gay vamps fighting for rights since the first clanbooks.

>gender pronoun
>story about entering into their new life
I know where this is headed

More RPG. Still an immersive sim in the way that there's loads of different options to solve the same problems.

>Saulot
>A motherfucking Antediluvian
Hah no.

>mean they mainly created these things
>created DnD
Yeah no. I remember how it was before those faggots. I even tried inviting some schoolmates to play and they tell me to piss off with the other nerds.

Wait, because DND wasn't explicitly liberal, no PNP can be or it's "co-opting" the entire genre?

That user literally said "all forms" of tabletop.

rate

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And my question doesn't change at all, so please answer.

People get bored of their daily routines in mere years, you think you'd last hundreds as a vampire?

They probably won’t bother you. So long as you aren’t, you know in their land or pissing in their cereal

I feel like they'd leave you alone there unless you were stirring shit up. No real point trying to start shit.

The Camarilla wouldn't stop you from doing that, they would just want to keep tabs on you. Imagine some dumb kids explore the lighthouse and find your sleeping body, or government officials finally decide to renovate the lighthouse and construction crews come knocking. What are you going to do without a support group like the Camarilla to fall back on?

Honestly the vampire general of /tg/ was the best explanation for why the Jyhad exists.
It was basically elysium where you have the same conversations with the same handful of people every day or so to the point where you can fucking predict what they're going to say as response to your sentence.

Very/Nice

Why is Tremere the best clan in the game?

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Because you get all the benefits of being a Tremere without the disadvantages.

That is, unless you're a fucking retard and willingly enter the Tremere ponzi scheme by sucking Strauss dick.

>Knockoff mages
>Born out an unholy ritual, not true descendants of Caine
>Have their own corrupt hierarchy on top of the existing Camarilla one
Yeah I'll pass thanks

I can only imagine that the beginning of the game involves you sucking a vampire dry and going down a couple generations.

>hate speech specialist
What

Near Dark and The Hunger that low in the list. No Dark Shadows. Where's Lost Boys and Fright Night?

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>people complaining about the sjw's instead of the literal who studio in charge of developing it

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>choose a clan
This makes me think they won't include Nosferatu or Malkavian as choices. Why would you willingly decide to choose them?

Why not? They've got neat powers. Nosferatu have got loads of cool stuff.

The choice isn't an in story choice would be my thought. Same as any game

I expect they'll do something like "the blood within you stirs and you remember the beast that turned you" and then you're given the choice.

I highly doubt they'll give you a selection of 10 coffins and make you eat out the one who's powers sound coolest, after which the rest just get taken away.

>unholy used as a negative when talking about fucking vampires
Keep seething, the Camarilla are terrifed of Tremere chads for a reason

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Maybe watch/listen to the dev interview that posted

They're by far the most interesting clan, even compared to Malks in terms of backstory/lore.

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It sounded like the choices you make in the "tutorial" section determine what clan you become

The Tremere would've been stronger if they just remained mages, but they turned themselves into bloodsuckers for no goddamn reason.

>unholy used as a negative when talking about fucking vampires

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>Camarilla are terrifed of Tremere chads for a reason
I keep seeing shit like this a lot. Are Tremere really the most powerful clan of the cammies? I always thought it was Ventrues who ran shit. I looked into it a bit and it seems like everybody is kinda terrified of Tremere's or at least, weary of them based on what they did to the Assamite

They were getting antsy over their magic immortality starting to lose effect. They were literally too impatient to just keep perfecting their magic they had to forever curse themselves into becoming undead with shitty blood powers.

Cain is literally the opposite of holy you dumb fuck

Tremere and his apprentices would have been long dead by now if they remained mages.
And being afraid of death is literaly the reason why they became vampires

>humans
>caputured and cucked an antediluvian so that they could find out the secret into becoming a vampire
>everybody hates them and wants them dead yet they still are at the top of the game
>have fucking gargoyles to protect them and act as their slaves

Gee, I wonder why they're feared

And look what it got him.

There is so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to start.
But probably with
>humans

Mages are humans, they're mortal (well at least the tremere were). What else did I get wrong, go on, i'll wait

You said they cucked an antediluvian, when in reality they got cucked by an antediluvian.

I'd be fine with all this if it was going to be circa 2000 leftist, but they've already said that the way Malkavians were represented was "problematic." Don't like the implications.

This. They didn't know they would become vampires and lose the ability to perform actual magic, they thought they would just become immortal. It's a curse.

>Brujah never grew past their 15 year old rebel phase and are still salty about Carthage
>Malkavians are for the "LOL IM SO RANDUMB" crowd
>Ventrue are basic and boring
>Gangrel get cucked by the Werewolves at every opportunity
>Nosferatus are just hobo sewer-dwellers instead of Apex Predator monsters
>Toreador are toreador
Tremere are the best no doubt

Counting mages as human is completly missing the point.
Also
>they never "captured" an antediluvian
>they first ritually embraced themselves by using blood of a ~7th or 6th gen Tzimisce
>they later "found" Saulot and "successfully" diablerized him
>the only clans that originally hate them were Tzimisce, Gangrel and Nosferatur
Tzimisce for stealing the original blood and Nos and Gangrel for being the experimental sources for Gargoyles. The rest was not caring about them.
Later obviously the Assamites hated them for the curse.
>have fucking gargoyles to protect them and act as their slaves
The Mother of Gargoyles released the vast majority of them back during the Anarch revolt

And let's not even get into the white worm

>gender pronoun
That seems like an excellent way to bloat their voice acting costs

Giovanni are best clan

Other clans need not apply

>Tremere are sired and immediately blood bonded into a hierarchy of scheming blood sorcerers who only want to take advantage of them
It's like Camarilla 2.0, Tremere have no freedom user

>Malkavians are for the "LOL IM SO RANDUMB" crowd
The bloodlines Malk was a mistake

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Don't worry user, everyone in the game will refer to your character using gender neutral pronouns, regardless of what you chose

tremeres are the ketotards of the vampire world

This sounds awful

I'd imagine they won't show up guns blazing. Just show up and tell you what's up.

prank calling humans/10

they are not rankings dumb ass

>The blurring of gender and sexuality lines has been a trademark of vampire since forever
Okay but this is actually true, whitewolf has always been liberal with this shit. If you cherry pick it now you either accept that:
1. You didn't actually like bloodlines, in which case why should anyone here care about your opinion
2. It didn't actually effect bloodlines, in which case you're the loud annoying one trying to bring politics into videogames
3. You didn't actually notice before and now you're just hypersensitive because someone told you to be offended and you followed your herd instincts

That's what I'm saying. The Camarailla is the best group to be a part of if you want to live an isolationist life. They have the resources to keep humans off your back and ensure you aren't discovered. As long as you have a decent prince over your domain and you don't care about politics, you're golden.

you're welcome bro

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The Anarchs are retarded 15-year olds, despite being immortal vampires
The Sabbat are right about everything but absolutely insane
The Camarilla are utterly impotent but the safest choice

To quote totally not Mithras
>One Sect is ruled by open fear of mortals and secret fear of Antediluvians. The other is ruled by open fear of Antediluvians and secret fear of mortals.
>Both fears are legitimate.

The sabbat being right about everything is pretty fucking based
Really hope you can join them in bloodlines 2

>The gameplay was shit not the entire game
>gameplay
>game

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Hunters with True Faith are the real Apex Predators.

Are there other factions aside from those 3? Are they all strictly Vampires or can say a Werewolf be part of it?

Sorry sweeties, but you either love /pol/ or fuck off to resetera.

So this thinblood dude told me that if you kill the original vampire everyone turns back to normal. So say someone somehow kills Cain (that's the original vampire right?) does...everyone go back to normal?

I got the impression that guy just convinced himself that doing so would cure him.

Nobody can kill Cain. God himself forbids him death.

Irrelevant because capital G is ensuring that Caine doesn't until he apologizes.
And since Caine is the ultimate manchild with severe depression this will never happen

What so if someone gets close to it God will stop it?

Rare in Camarilla domains, at least. They don't like Diablerie much. There are entire branchs of Anarchs that specifically push for more Diablerie, and of course, the Sabbat love it.

I want to know how they will justify our character committing diablerie without being completely ostracized/hunted by the Camarilla

Probably like this.
From the Cam sourcebook

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Yes absolutely. But he's also stronger than every antidilivian. He operates on a completely different level. He's essentially a demon.

They say that every attempt at hurting Cain will be reflected on you 7times more. He's endgame shit, so no homebrew mage/werewolf/hunter campaign can do shit.

>Cara Ellison
Isn't that the cunt who got Hotline Miami 2 banned in Australia?

What the fuck would all the Vampires do assuming all of them wake up one night to find they're all back to being a regular human because Caine offed himself or some shit.

What if he offs himself?

>wake up
>have to pee

what the fuck

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Knowing the Camarilla I HIGHLY doubt that is anything but a tool to entice thinbloods to do their bidding, but I guess it could be possible.

>God himself forbids him death.
He can't.

he is literally cursed to not be able to die
there is no escape like that

What's wrong with the SJW shit besides you disagreeing with it? That sort of stuff doesn't automatically make a game bad.

Most important question
Can I firebomb the vampires at Valve HQ for fucking up TF2?

There's NOTHING Cain can do to earn forgiveness.

>Just ignore the huge red flags that the writing will be shit bro

Linear? I hope not. My perception of time is becoming shorter and shorter every year, FUCK.

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Imagine being a Tzimisce and waking up to find all your bodymods are gone and now you're just a regular normalfag.

No, Australian government are just made up of censorship happy faggots. They have banned a fuck ton of media, and will ban even more. One article in a magazine is not a reason for them banning anything, it is just an excuse.

The most wide-spread impotent rage-out possible. Imagine going from a 5th gen badass who's been dead for 700 hundred years to someone who has to take a shit?

see
does this seems like good writing to you?

He literal just has to say sorry.
He's just too fucking stuck up to it. Fuck when Abel's ghost appears to him during Gehenna and says he forgives Caine he tells him to fuck off

God sent three different angels to tell Caine to repent but he creid until they left. I'm sure if he actually went to church and said sorry God would forgive him

Still she caused them to turn their attention towards this game claiming something that didn't exist in the game at all.
Without it, that game would've gone through with a myriad of other games.

she took credit for it anyway that says quite a bit about her

What red flags? They got the fallout writers a load of other legends and the OG writers of the first game.

>5th gen badass who's been dead for 700 hundred years
You're about 5-9 hundred years off.
Do you even realise how rare 5th gen is?

I'm fairly certain the gender pronoun is limited to the menu. After all: how are people supposed to guess how to address you properly? I wouldn't be surprised if this causes them some drama later on for "misgendering" or things like that because the writers themselves will most likely realise that it wouldn't make sense if some Vampire elder was progressive enough to play these modern games about gender.

>>Takes place 15 years after Bloodlines

Cab driver's Cain/Caine/Kain/Kaine/Khain/Khaine, right?

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I just hope that when the inevitable press conference at E3 or somewhere happens, some based user will ask her, how it feels getting a game banned through lies and how it feels getting away with lying.

I forgot the word for vamp hibernation. 5th gens qualify for that shit right?

How in the fuck can anybody predict that Australia will take your shitty article seriously? According to your logic, if somebody publishes their opinion, they are automatically responsible for other people's actions it inspires. That is retarded.

Source?

It seems like a perfect description of a bunch of retarded ex-antifa-now-anarchs sitting in a talking circle.

>Be Cain
>Hang self
>Branch breaks
>Self immolate
>Sudden storm
>Try to Guillotine head off
>Guillotine breaks

why does this need constant shill threads? we're a year out and there hasn't even been publicly available gameplay footage

what the hell is happening here?

Thank you user!!! Good list

Holy fuck please never post about VtM again it's painful reading your posts

It's because Yea Forums loves vtmb so much, that's all. The threads will die down after awhile until we get more info.

Would Jeanette still wanna fuck Bertram? Or because he isn't ugly anymore she'd be nty.

Is he immune to the Sun? This whole vampire thing doesn't really seem like a huge hinderance then

It will still burn and hurt, he just won't die.

That game was pretty good imo

This on the other hand was a great post

Question is, can you dance?

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Anti-SJW threads would die but then we'd get regular threads.

and what if I told you that wasn't what they were going for

this dude wrote it and he was completely serious about it's not meant to be funny in any way

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Jeanette would probably cease to exist because Therese was the original personality.

What the fuck are you? I don't recognize that model.

Are you new? Bloodlines is one the few games Yea Forums doesn't fucking hate

He's a nos, did you play the game user?

She existed before they turned though.

You want them to monkey paw that one too? Better get ready for flossing vampires.

>>Player is a thin-blood at first, choose a Clan later on

Might as well be vampire wannabes, unless diablerie is possible, and I seriously hope it is.

Coroner would make a good Necrophile Malk.

>listen Mitsoda in an interview
>he sounds familiar
PIMPIN' FOR ROMERO

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Fucking retarded shill.

That faggot needs to be tied to the back of a truck and dragged for a few miles.

What if you try to diablerie Cain? Or whoever the second vampire is. Actually does diablerie? If you diablerie one of each major clan what happens to you?

>based in modern seattle

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Well he is English and obviously very gay

beyond the dialogue and characters Bloodlines is pretty mediocre through, it may as well have been a Tell-Tale game

Playing VTMB first time anons, anything I should know before starting? Any mod to be installed?

DON'T.
DO IT.
Nothing good will come out of it.

Stop shilling this game, its a fucking year away

>>Listen:

To all the ambient themes, some of them have some really odd and creepy and mysterious vibes, and a paranoia vibe for a Malkavian. My favorite: youtube.com/watch?v=GmSEmpD19eU

They take over your body because their soul is more powerful than yours.

>antagonizing one particular Tzimisce every day
>boom next day you have to take a shit
>but that faggot is all thin and shit
Oh man that'd be a laugh.

install an unofficial patch

if you want to have fun in gameplay, play a clan that has celerity (matrix bullet time) or thaumaturgy (magic spells). or obfuscate (invisibility) for stealth

How is the Antitribu mod?

>Stop having hype for a game you and many others are interested in
Who hurt you so bad you felt the need to write that post? You do realize no one cares how you feel?

We can't make a Tzimisce without mods, can we? No, nothing like pic related that's for sure, I think.

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>diablerie Cain
You get killed. Caine cannot be beaten by other vampires.

>beyond the dialogue and characters Bloodlines is pretty mediocre throug
>forgetting the music
pleb

vtmb still has fun gameplay tho

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I like this one because of the creepy vocals

>gender pronoun

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Except they literally tell the GM not to let them RP that way, you have to either kill or fix them

>gender pronoun
>gender

Ah, I finally get it now. Sneaky mother fuckers I tell ya.
Hint: Starts with an M ends with a N

There's no fucking way his soul won't just eat yours

Or waking up and finding you're a human again but all of your body mods are still there.

Like where the FUCK do you go from there? At least half are going to be a hindrance if they don't just straight up stop working as you designed them and kill you, and it's going to be very, very hard to integrate back into human society.

If they even WANT to integrate back into human society.

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Still sounds okay to me. Sometimes I like to play an asshole character in VtMB who kills innocents or constantly abuses people and have them end up opening it

>Hint: Starts with an M ends with a N
Mitsoda and Ellison?

How about this then. You eat one weak vampire of each clan. Do you just become some ugly sexy freak who hears voices?

I'm non-binary and I don't see what the deal with the pronouns is. Like, just pick he/she if it bothers you so much? Or keep raging at it if that's better, idn.

Imagine a rich snobby-ass former Ventrue working retail or some shit

Or you could just cut out the middle-man and be an average malkavian

does being thinblood mean we can daywalk at least? what if we retain some thinblood powers when we diablerize

i wouldnt think about it too hard

If you are non-binary you'd want a they/them pronoun. Nice roleplay.