Litteraly impossible

Well yeah that's what makes the NPC actually really helpful. Once you get Drunkard one on one there's only his pushback move you have to worry about

You should kill the mooks before you even activate the npc

but how you clear them out without aggroing him?

>I'm so good, look how I cheese this boss
git gud

You don't. Just kill them quickly while Juzuo is running at you.

>he's pretty much only good for tanking him until you clear all the other faggots around
that's the fight's main difficulty

You can kite then 3 ads that are in your way.
You kill the three people in front of him with Shuriken or bring them too you with Ceramic tiles. Kill them in the water and then alert only the drunk and lure him to the samurai.
Than it is a 2 on 1 fight because it won't alert the other 3-4 people he has.

>not stealth killing every single enemy from the left, then sneaking up on Juzou to take away one healthbar, then running up to the NPC to tank him while you fuck bossman in his asshole
took this guy down second try because the first try i spoke to the npc before engaging

>sneak to left
>kill 2 guys
>sneak down path
>backstab shield guy
>run away until aggro resets
>boss stands in the middle of the room now
>begin backstab spree on mobs
>backstab boss for free
>run to npc and tell him you're a pussy for cheesing yet another boss

I had to read the thread to know which boss this was because it was such an inconsequential obstacle in my playthrough. Literally no different than the club wielding big bois.

You get to talk to him afterward, and he doesn't really say anything important or interesting.

It's easy to do by simply not talking to him, going around him and approaching the enemy group from behind using the building to the left. First time I did it I cleared all the trash guys and the first deathblow of the big dude, then talked to him to help me out with the second one.

>situational awareness and strategy means cheesing
literal 0 iq brainlet

Anyone manage to get the NPC out alive through this fight? What does he do if he survives?

This guy is a piece of cake, try Orin of the water without divine confetti.

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>do this by accident while desperately trying to survive against her
>come back later to find out it didn't count really despite getting rewards for it and the boss has respawned
>stomp her without taking damage

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So i just beat rape ape and got the flower, seems like the only places left to go are filled with ghosts. Should i fight corrupted monk or the crying whore next? I only have like 8 confetti and havent met anyone to buy it from yet.

I didn't because somehow while I was fighting Juzou I did a jumpkick over his sweep and kicked the asshole instead, so he ran around trying to kill me while I am trying to fight the fat drunk fuck.
So I led him to Juzou's poison and he died, calling me a rogue. Fuck that guy. He wouldn't respawn after that either, even though he had died during the fight before. Double fuck that guy and his gay top-knot.

I bet you fought the Seven Spears of Ashina at the Endgame with puopets too faggot.

>go left so you can cull NPCs
>kill shield guy next to drunkard
>he activates, run away
>he'll deactive and walk back, get a free deathblow on him from behind
>run for the NPC and activate him
>attack his back while he attacks the NPC

easiest boss in the game

You haven't seen the last of Rape Ape and friends.

Wow you lucky motherfucker, she killed me 20 times with that grab attack.

Use that path on the left to sneak on one of his guys, proceed to kill all his goons while staying far away from him, when it's just you and him, hide and use the left path again to do a stealth attack on him, now go and activate the blue NPC guy and proceed to defeat him.
Trying to defeat him fair and square like a badass by deflecting doesn't work, trust me i tried.

holy shit, I need to upgrade the explody arm

I used the upgraded shuriken.

download trainer and ez win

>she killed me 20 times with that grab attack
You can block it with the shield umbrella.

You can farm Confetti from the swordsman in the castle annex. And you should only need 2 confetti tops for any given ghost enemy. and that's if you don't have the occult repellent umbrella.

use charge attacks more you can outrange him pretty easy

I didn't get it yet.

the game told you to kill ingeniously and you forgot to assassinate the drunkard's boys

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Beat him first try. Was scared after reading how bs he is, but his attacks after really slow. Also beat butterfly lady in 5 tries, but common npcs give me trouble. Help

You can deflect the grab. When she reaches behind you and pulls back that's when you hit block button.

Run around the side, kill all the trash while you kite the boss around, then recruit the NPC. I had him survive until the last few seconds of the fight.

He's only scary before you realize how powerful deflect is combined with Ashina Arts: Ascending Carp + Descending Carp.

You can kill every mook and just run to de aggro the boss then sneak deathblow his first health bar and then activate NPC

if you can't 2v1 a boss with only one remaining health bar and full healing items with a resurrect you should probably go back to the temple and practice more on crestfallen samurai because you need it

Butterfly lady took me a lot less tries than the fucking spear miniboss at the revisited tutorial area.
Does the other miniboss in the area say anything interesting when you talk to him? I thought he was aggressive so I snuck up on him and attacked, only seeing a talk prompt right before my attack landed.

>using the stealth mechanics as intended is cheese
You’re a shinobi, not a samurai. Fair fights are for chumps.

Currently kicking my ass. Fucking teleporting bitch.

>Fair fights are for chumps.
This. If this wasn't the case, you wouldn't be able to stealth so easily and take a bar off of mini bosses.

ah fuck

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>What does he do if he survives?
Nothing, he just stands there and says something along the lines of "I'm too old for this shit".

If Lone Wolf and Cub taught me something, is that cheesing is okay even if you're a samurai when you're facing the world alone.

he just says something like "you go on ahead I need to rest"

he just asks if you're the big dick immortal ninja and says he wants to fight you

Not even a real boss

don't care about aggroing everyone
>sneak kill one guy
>run away
>wait till they reset
>repeat

>beat Genshin 3rd try
>beat lady butterfly 2nd
>beat horsefag 2nd
>beat chained ogre 1st try
>beat genshin 3rd try (almost beat him 2nd)
>get rekt by random mobs

This is why I hate Soulshit and games like it. I can absolute buttfuck so called "hard bosses", but along comes some miniboss/random trash mob with weird as fuck move sets that hit for a truckload of damage and I end up getting rekt.

Shit tier sense of progression

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samurai doing fair fights? i don't even think the japanese have a word for fair

I must be a fucking retard or something but I thought this guys monkey trouble fight was the hardest in the game so far. I've made it to corrupted monk but this fucker took me like 30 times to beat, never realized how much that NPC helped me in the first fight.

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he throw pewp he funny XD

Take out the mob surrounding him, stealth away til drunkard disengages, stealth one of his health bars, run to NPC, double team his ass for an easy victory

I heard people were having a hard time with the bull?
kinda weird its not that tough.

There are some enemies you chip away and some you parry-deflect and get close to.

Drunkard is one you chip away. So is the bull and the ape.

demon of hatred would like to have a word.

maybe they tried to parry instead of just circlestrafing and stabbing his ass

What’s with you zoomers and using dishonest words to make yourself feel better? They’re called cheats or hacks. Don’t try to cover it up, scrub.

I prefer when he farts in my face to be honest

Parry and some slashes was fun way though. Felt like a matador. You need dousing item though because you'll get burns through parry.

I could say the same about Chained Ogre, Seven Spears and Genichiro. All of them were pretty easy to me. Chained Ogre was a garbage fight though because it didn't play anything like Sekiro bosses should. It's like they copypasted a DaS2 boss there as an afterthought.

Every other boss teaches you that parrying is good. But the bull burns you through parries and attacks too quick to counter. Best strategy is to fight like a Dark Souls boss: Always go for the ass.

This game is so fucking tedious

Preach my nigga. I feel you.

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mad cuz bad

Kill the adds and run away. Trick him into chasing you and backstab him when he goes back. Then active the NPC battle buddy for an easy win.

you beat him like every other enemy in the game.

>go in front of him

>do NOT dodge anything except a sweep

>spam L1 parry

you win.

repeat on every other enemy in the game.

adding to this, there is zero reason to dodge his attacks, just spam L1. and R1. never move, never run away.

just stand and spam and you win.

The fuck do you mean that is exactly how you quickly kill him

He is like THE boss that try’s to let you know that you need to be aggressive and in their face

Does the NPC surviving change anything?

More like literally fun

I just finished the last boss, anyone feel like it was missing a phase? Idk it felt a bit anticlimactic he was just getting his power out

No, the NPC is actually useless. He gets in the way and takes away the attention from you so you can't tell who he's about to attack.

Bro this is the only boss I beat on my first try

I had more trouble doing that than with Juzou. O'Rin is tougher, but for the point in the game when you encounter Juzou, where you may well not be used to the combat yet, he can be a lot more trouble.

>you can pick off literally every one of the guys standing around him before you even engage him
>impossible

imagine being this dumb

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I think the progression is a little fucked early on, but the basic enemies are fairly easy for the whole game so I don't see what you're problem with them is. I just think the progression early on is bad because the mini-bosses were a big obstacle for me, but the actual bosses were complete pushovers. Genichiro's the first one that took more than one try and he still wasn't that hard, but by the time you get to Guardian Ape I think the difficulty works itself out fine.

...But you are

>Orin of the water without divine confetti.
Does confetti increase posture damage while parrying her? Because I never bothered with it because I rarely had chance to hit her normally.

No, I beat him by standing on the log so his buddy would run into the pit and then fought him normally.

I parried him and still beat him on the first try, he seems easier that way to me seeing as he rears his head for a good second to telegraph all his attacks and his head takes more posture damage, I believe.

literally beat him on my first try, just parry and block him and its easy

not saying this is the proper way to go about it but if you shuriken leash his guards one by one then signal the samurai to take him on if you're quick enough you can run around the left side of the arena and then approach him from the back to get a steal death blow. The samurai usually stays alive long enough for you to approach Juzou from behind.

Anyone who gives me a good tip for Owl 2 gets a peck on the cheek

No he just comments that its all clear and I believe he disappears but I have not checked back to see if he has a reward.

Owl 2? where is that?

Firecrackers into Ichimonji Double

_______________________________git gud________________________________________________.

Just break her posture parrying. Retard. Don't even bother attacking.

I just beat her. She really wasn't that bad. I didn't even try confetti on her

>First form
get ready for a second form and then an optional double fight

He's the easiest boss in the game.

Did you save him?

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O'rin is piss easy since she telegraphs all her moves a full 2 seconds before actually doing them.

finally just killed this fat fuck, but I did cheese with stealth, also that ichimonji double skill is so fucking good
yea, didn't even call him in, but he did trigger at the last second while I was giving the deathblow so he ran in screaming his warcry and just stood there

shinobi are samurai though

you don't just walk in and fight him you fucking retards

you go left through the water, stealth kill some, rinse, repeat, and you can still hit juzou for half his health

That little knee nudge he does is the most annoying shit because it comes out instantly

I love this faggy fucking Reddit threads where tryhards take turns telling eachother to 'git gud', expecting someone to be impressed. Dumb tired meme.

literally just learn his moveset and figure out punishes and what is safe against said moves. It's that simple.

Just sprint in and out of his range. He has no way to catch you or stop you. I beat him first try and didn't even have to learn his attack patterns. This boss made me realize how shit this game's combat really is. Most bosses can just be sprint-cheesed like this.

Bruh I pooped on this boss first attempt. V ez

>5 11 vs 6

Got her 2nd try without confetti

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>impressing anonymous people
Projecting

what the FUCK

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>post has only two words
>fucks one up
littttttttteraly retarded

Backstab the sword guy into Puppeteer and then kill the nigger

you can stealth spear dude and let the other one fall down if you hang on a branch, takes a few tries though

How do I sneak up on either of them, they keep seeing me.

Literally look up the word shinobi

Go around to the left. Grapple to a position that they can't see you. Stealth kill the sword guy. Blood mist. Stealth the Spear guy. run over to the weak Mook sitting on the ground. Stealth kill him when the Spear dude gets up and close to you. Blood mist the dude you just stealthed and then backstab the spear dude again.

Shits done and over with. Never have to fight a single person.

do you have all stealth upgrades? approach from right and then quick step behind him, it doesn't work every time

>he drinks his beer
>attack twice
>run away
>applies buff
>attack twice
>run away
>repeat until dead because has no ranged attacks or speed

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Pop a stealth candy and go from the branch on the left, try to stay in a path that is right between the middle of them.

Well I just beat it but don't really know how, the sword guy just disappeared then I took out the spear guy by himself.

>get a stealth deathblow
>go talk to NPC while he's running after you
>take off the 2nd health bar with NPC's help
That's how I ended up doing it. Took me a few tries to notice the NPC even existed though.

ok people i got the ending when sekiro is a shura.
how much of the game im missing if i unistall now?

There's no point in saving him or not. He doesn't give anything, drop anything, or appear later on, so... whats the point

literally half

You are missing like 4 main bosses

whats the point of all that part of the game? the time travel thing, it goes no where

Being a good person

I lie, 3 main bosses and an optional one.

Shows what happened to Owl.
Characterizes Wolf's life before the Dragonrot, history with Lady Butterfly, role as a retainer.

thought the same, then it finally clicked, now its 9/10

im gonna get mi shit pushed if i play that part in new game + isnt?

>the time travel thing, it goes no where
It goes to the Purification ending.

NG+ is more difficult after the Shura ending than the regular ending, you have less AP from less bosses, less prayer beads and no way to get infinite AP through skill points, but it's not too bad.

You were gonna get your shit pushed in regardless.

Wait you are supposed to confetti her?
I got past her and corrupted monk yesterday, haven't used any confetti yet.
Just been hording it all.

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You can cheese her for a free stealth stab, but I'm sure it's a bug so idk
I did it without confetti because I didn't know but she only had one healthbar at that point. Fuck her

Why was Sekiro in the well anyway. Don't tell me he spend 3 years sulking there after the fire

I picked this up without knowing much about, I love it but it has serious fps issues on PS4. Like, just moving the camera at mid speed makes it chug a tad. It's really annoying and I'm pretty sure the game has missed some inputs because of this lag, but I don't want to blame the game for my fuck ups.
Is this getting patched? Do I need to update anything?

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Clear the trash before talking to the helper guy. Then you can wail on the boss while the guy tanks him

update your ps4 to a pc

This. See the fight with Owl, he cries to try to trick you into lowering your guard. As the japanese say 「彼があなたにぶつかると忍は痛みで泣き出します」 "The Shinobi cries out in pain as he strikes you"

I do have a decent pc but it's such a waste since I already bough a copy on ps4

>try Orin of the water without divine confetti
I did on my 3rd try. Why should you use confetti? She wasn’t hard, just need to remember when she teleports she’s gonna do 3 back to back slashes you have to deflect then a Red attack and jump counter her.

Parry that shit homie

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should have done more research, vsync and 30 fps aint gonna do you no favors in a timing based game

Any idea on how many heal I should have now that I'm against thesamurai dude from the beginning? Managed to get to his second lightning phase but I was out of heal and fucked up. I have 3 units for now

Just do the parry dance

hard boss bro

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Pic related beat him in 2 tries

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orin is easy. the trick is to just not move around.

>parry scripted attacks
>attack yourself when its over
how can anyone find games like these fun? boring

You explored the temple yet? Just askin. If you can get to his lightning phase with just 3 gourds you are doing good. But if you want more you can just take a break from fighting him and go explore other shit.

This alone is proof that Sekiro is easier than Soulsborne.
Yet shitters will still cry about how hard it is.

I know it's bait but this is one enemy I killed in like 30 seconds (third try), if there's anything you can say about this game it's that it has a lot of enemy variety that force you to fight in different ways

Wow.
Voldo really let himself go.

get good, firstly

not sure which temple you are talking about. I remember an old lady talking about it but I don't get where it was supposed to be. What I did so far was
>Ashina Outskirts, probably missed a few things or two such as a merchants
>Hirata estate
>found two underground area, don't remember their name
I also saw that headless guy but I got my shit pushed

Even DSP came up with a strategy to beat him easily, you have no excuse

this boss is everything wrong with sekiro

>durr just parry

did anyone actually managed to defeat him without npc help or cheese?

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Yeah? He's easy.

t. fat fuck

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when you realize dodging is always a bad idea, and you stand there and L1 his swings, you win.

this entire game is hell if you are used to dark souls mechanics.

Do you still get the bead for killing her like this?

I have a friend that loved Bloodborne that ragequit on Lady Butterfly.

Orin is where Posture and Attack Power really count, because even parries won't work on her if you fight her too early.

clips.twitch.tv/NastyArtsyPepperoniBIRB

Just download more ram senpai

this fight is not that bad you just have to kill the smaller guys first typically I run straight at the arrow guy, kill the shield guys and either help kill the other guys or distract the boss for a second and then help the npc and provided you did this quickly enough the boss fight itself is really fucking easy with help from the NPC

>die a million times to this dusty old cunt and spread dragon aids everywhere
>decide to give in and look up how to beat her
>find out she's fucking OPTIONAL

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so what was the guy with armor I got gyozou's spear for? I never fought him.

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you can literally stun lock her all day with side step counter attacks

Literally impossible

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Yeah no, that doesn't seem to be working for me.

>so what was the guy with armor I got gyozou's spear for? I never fought him.

It's the ogre enemy that swings a bell around right next to the guards who talk about it. You can take their chestpiece off and deal more damage.

I also didn't know what it was meant to be for because I backstabbed it. Looked it up later.

its not a 100% cheese you kinda have to be smart about it and you slightly aggressive so she dosent jump to her wires. if shes on the attack back step away from her or wait for the leg drop she does and use Ichimonji if shes trying to get away sidestep towards her

>People talk about how getting past the drunkard is neat because it means now they understand the game
>People sharing strategies about the drunkard
>Friend asks me if I got to the drunkard yet. "No, not yet," "Oh man, dude, he's tough"
>Finally see him, carefully pick off the guys standing around
>Only drunkard is left, see the NPC guy, not sure if he'll give me a tip and he just runs in to fight
>I don't know what to do, run in with him, kill drunkard on first attempt without a sweat.

I feel cheated. This was supposed to be more of an experience. I had more fun fighting the one armed purple guy right before.

>playing on pc with weird input lag
>hardstuck on this guy because I don't understand how I'm supposed to death blow him twice after getting past 8 annoying as fuck enemies and survive the fight with 2 heals and half health revive available
so as soon as I got the bell I went to go do this area, are you just not meant to fight this nigger yet? I refuse to use the NPC since you can just jump on the rock near the lookout hut and bait only him towards you. It's much easier than trying to kill all the dudes around him and hoping you don't get clipped by some bullshit while executing one of them. Once you death blow him the first time he starts mixing up his strings and the timing of them just fucking destroys me. Since you can't make more than 2 mistakes and since there's only 2 tiny heals I'm stuck on what seems like an easy fucking boss. Fucking kill me

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Same shit with me.
Also the second phase of the Guardian Ape has a use for the spear but at no point in time does the game say it would work in such a way.

how far are you in Sekiro?

I knew you could get help from the samurai, but I still tried to solo him for a few hours, and just couldn't do it
Well, at least the game gives you two more opportunities later on

>stealth kill half his guards
>kite around killing the rest while ignoring him
>once he's alone, fuck off and hide until he loses interest
>sneak up and stealth attack him
>immediately run over to the NPC in the weeds to get him to help
>stomp the shit out of him while he's distracted

Easy. Literally piss easy.

It'd be too easy if it did. I first-try'd Guardian Ape because I knew about it. Also did Headless Ape on the second try.

He isn't even the second biggest threat in the optional area that is that whole flashback sequence.

>lose out on the bead
Yeah real smart move

I didn't find her that hard. I was using the monk jump kick combat art on her sweeps and it did a lot of posture damage, from what I remember she didn't have anything particularly deadly and she dies quickly. What exactly do you find hard about her?

Second Phase Ape is already too easy. Just learn to run the fuck away when it telegraphs it's scream for a solid 10 seconds.

you can deflect it with your sword

just be aggressive and r1 until she starts parrying, then counter whatever she does after the parry
if she goes in the air, use a shuriken to get her down
just mash l1 to parry her attack strings

>Half a healthbar left, no monster left to drink
>Decide to just jump into it to at least get a glimpse of the moveset
>""Boss"" dead
lol

She's piss easy once you realize that when she winds up for the spinning attack that you should back up like 3 feet so the attack doesn't beyblade around your defenses.
Then she is a fucking cakewalk to Parry and counter.

Hell If I wanted to I could have umbrella'd the bitch to death like I did to all the Shamans.

>tfw the bull is the hardest boss up to that point.

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You can backstab her. This isn't common knowledge I think. Throw a non damaging item at her like oil or whatever and then you get a backstab popup without aggroing her

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The underground area leads to Mt. Kongo. That’s a good place to explore.

Wtf Juuzo isn't even bad. Just learn to parry and move out of the way of his spit. Wow.

I wish I knew that beforehand.

this is one of the easiest fights in the game, you retard

I mean. I beat lady butterfly before I made it to the bull. So technically no.

I love how Gen shit talks you after you beat his ass during the tutorial stage, you win and his shinobi that was hiding shurikens your sword and the faggot Gen that was bending the knee took the chance to cut me down. Then he proceeeds to say that as a shinobi, you should know that victory is the only thing that counts.

>the player within one more blow of getting posturebroken and killed, even though the miniboss used the simpler version of his attack
>totally easy, durr

Shitposters lately aren't even trying.

>when you realize dodging is always a bad idea, and you stand there and L1 his swings, you win.

Not sure if a troll or an idiot.

no really, the game is basically "stand and l1/r1".

dodging is especially bad because time spent not attacking or parrying = enemy posture bar shrinking.

How the fuck do I beat the ape?

Learn to quickly find the tell for his scream and get away. You can either go heavy deflect/side step and kill him at 50% of his HP or have a 5 minute long fight and run away and sprint in to attack after he does the 4x sword swing attack (where his body is lowered after the 4th swing) or you can attack after he does the lunge stab.

>everyone telling people to get away from the ape's roars
Bros just get the umbrella and shield that shit

I did this.

>sneak to the house right off, kill off 2 guys in there, then sneak and kill one shield guy
>proceed to run rings inside the house and pick off all adds on by one. When everything is dead lure boss to side of house then run away to deaggro
>sneak attack to take one circle off
>then you talk to the old guy so it's a 2 versus 1

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Hit it until it dies

Ty

You can also jump on her.

But then you don't get to touch her butt

>Headless
What was their thought process behind this boss if there was any, is this even doable without confetti? Guess I will have to wait until I come across someone that sells it

it should be doable with perfect parries

Parries and the Ghost umbrella.

Read the post.
I didn't intentionally blow him off the ledge. Up to that point I didn't even know enemies could fall off ledges since they almost seemed to hit an invisible wall prior to this. Also, I don't play the guide so I don't know what I get for killing certain enemies.

GRAPE APE took me 10 tries.
TWO APE DOWN AFTER STUMBLING UPON THEIR CAVE.

Just run in and kill them all. Attack one, be invincible while in deathblow, run and kill the one furthest from the boss, repeat. Once all the minions are dead talk to the npc.

>Indoor areas are absolutely unplayable because somehow From managed to make the camera issues they always had even worse
Wow