So what, does this mean no leveling system? How do the powers work, do you just have what your base clan has and then no upgrades?
Noah Phillips
COMPLEX MECHANICS GOOD FUN MECHANICS BAD
Ryan Mitchell
>randomly complain about some edition price point >thinks they said they were putting politics in to the game lol
Mason Wood
Lmaoooo everyone thinks it's shit
Justin Martinez
Vtmb/ck2 hybrid mite be fun actually
Brayden Ramirez
I dunno what you guys were expecting from some literally who studio. Barely anyone who worked on the original is involved with this.
Bentley Collins
building a character is unfun, what if you find a really cool weapon but you can't use it because you chose a different kind of combat ability? that's not very fun is it now you have to replay the whole game so you can use it
Adam Bennett
Yeah the more I hear about this game the less interested I've become.
Dear developers: it's not fun to press a button to win. It's fun to press a button to win at the end of the game where you have earned it.
Nathaniel Nelson
>fallout 4 had better rpg elements
Hahahahahahaha
Jason Robinson
I have shat better shits than F3. F4 is just some of my shit that was taken into hands and moulded into picturesque piece of shit.
Jose Long
Yeah, let's also erase all the gameplay differences between clans while we're at it. God forbid you'll have to replay the game.
Carter Hall
>Yeah, let's also erase all the gameplay differences between clans while we're at it.
You play as a thin-blood. I'd put money on being able to choose whatever discipline you want.
John Jenkins
Can you counter this claim?
You really can't.
Special increased stats viable to the character in it's own way, readable on the Pipboy.
Perks were accessed through leveling and not just given to you, every somewhat level.
It made pacing much more fun.
Than why are you in this thread? It's obvious these type of games aren't in your genres.
Luis Martin
Through reading this article I’m getting the sense the author doesn’t actually know what an RPG is
Jonathan Jenkins
you joking, r-right user?
RPGs are about choice&consequence. sometimes you make a choice you didn't like, tough luck.
there are supposed to be consequences, even 'bad' ones.
as for the OP, you're fucking retarded. mitsoda confirmed firearms in game, there's a confirmation from developers as well that skills are a thing. what probably happened is that the retard doing the interview thought the first game had a skill system which allows you to use weapons/gear--when in fact it just made it better
Blake Ortiz
>Than why are you in this thread? Because it's a thread about Vampire the masquaerade >It's obvious these type of games aren't in your genres It's obvious that you are a fucking moron.
Ryan Scott
most crpgs have overly complex mechanics that make the game worse since all it does it let you completely destroy the game's difficulty if you know what's actually good or just play long enough and overpower everything.
> mental age-range Oh yea, you are playing different gametypes? Fucking looser. Get off your horse, little man. You don't like RPGs you think that F3 is a good game, for fuck sakes. You think that F4 is an RPG and not hodgepodge of CoD perks.
William Cruz
well you are going to be a thin blood so you won't get to do that either, at best you will be able to drink blood from a tremere to access basic thaumaturge powers
Justin Thompson
>this much seething vitreal You have to be over 18 to use this site :-P
Bentley Williams
The whole appeal of shallow and short game like Bloodlines was that you could replay it dozen times with different clans/builds
Jordan Barnes
Yea Forums wouldn't be Yea Forums if it wasn't spammed with the same damn thing over and over again along with OH NO NO NO NO
>He thinks "you can't use this equipment because your numbers are too small" mechanics are actually good. >A super-strong monster man shouldn't be able to swing an axe back and forth unless they've hacked computers and persuaded people enough to gain "experience" that they can somehow convert into fencing talent.
Apparently logic is "casualization" now.
I"m sure you'd love to punch me in the face right now, but that's an Unarmed Level 5 skill and you put all your points into Retardation.
Jason Phillips
I'm just saying. Instead of making any valid points, you're acting like some dumb kid in Elementary.
Henry Rogers
meh, the game will be alright
Landon Peterson
>putting points into a stat >complex
Carter Kelly
Valid points on what? You attacking me with "holier than thou" arguments? Are you fucking retarded or are just really really stupid?
Chase Green
CRPGS BTFO
Jeremiah Rogers
Are you perhaps a nigger? Just want to know the IQ I'm trying to converse with.
Matthew Morris
Complex mechanics are fun mechanics. Simple mechanics are not fun mechanics. Depth and choice matter m8, specializing into things makes your characters 1000x more fun in games instead of hurr durr i can do anything and use anything.
Matthew Barnes
You could use any weapon in VtMB no matter your stats, you would just suck with them if your stats were low. Melee attacks more likely to be blocked, more recoil on guns, etc.
Benjamin Stewart
Won't you still be able to do that? You start as a thinblood but you can become a member of any other clan and you still have different stats you can focus on per playthrough.
Charles Morales
>You are not mature, you are using bad words >Are you a nigger?! Good think that you have consistent convictions. Fucking moron.
Adam Nguyen
Leveling guns in RPGS is shit, fight me. The world, writing and story in Bloodlines was great, not the faggy ass terrible rpg elements.
Christian Perez
Can't wait for this to come out and make RDR2 money.
No you don't, that's why you are allowed onto here. Not the age tho, that's the reason you aren't.
Adam Cox
You LITERALLY have to be white to post on Yea Forums.
Jason Brown
>90 dollars / eurobux >not even all DLC / expansions included you're literally a cuckold if you buy this.
Easton Hughes
well, you better fuck of then. Aren't you?
Landon Rodriguez
pretty sure there is going to be some bullshit excuse for you to be able to access Blood Boil in spite of that.
Julian Barnes
Did anyone here play Dishonored 2? Was the story any good? Because I'm a bit nervous about this new writer. I don't even necessarily mind that there'll politics in the game, what's important to me is that it has proper horror and a good story.
This is correct, but I don't trust any modern dev to recapture that level of world building and writing. They would most likely be better off focusing on making good mechanics because I seriously doubt they have enough people on staff who can craft a setting, characters, and dialogue that rises above the level of mediocre. Even big budget AAA games can't manage that these days.
Juan Gonzalez
So by youre logic a bodybuilder could easily beat a person who swims everyday in a swimming?if im role-playing as vampire who was a business man before I turned I wouldn't know jack shit about shooting a gun or swinging a sword properly
Jace Baker
I'm just telling you how it is.
Hudson Russell
Considering there's pretty much only one weapon 'class' which is melee weapons, and Guns are at best a temporary pick-up, that makes sense, i guess. That's not saying i'm in support of boiling combat down like that, but once you make that decision, what would be the point of weapon skills?
Xavier Jackson
>off focusing on making good mechanics because I seriously doubt they have enough people on staff who can craft a setting, characters, and dialogue that rises above the level of mediocre Why would anyone give a shit about a Bloodlines game for the gameplay.
Isaac Moore
You never ever played VtM:B, did you?
Gabriel Sanders
why would anyone give a shit about any game for the gameplay?
Cooper Hughes
She has always been a supporting writer, and it's always difficult to untangle what these people have been involved with and what not. DH2s plot was pretty clunky, but with the excpetion for the main antagonist i liked many of the characters.
Isaiah Ross
>Did anyone here play Dishonored 2? Was the story any good?
Dishonored 2's story was utterly banal.
Wyatt Hall
The writing was inarguably the worst part of Dishonored 2.
Joseph Ortiz
Yes there is no actual roleplaying in fo4.
William Campbell
Overall it felt pretty uninspired, especially as a follow-up to the first game which I still love. Also I dropped the standalone expansion halfway through.
Though you have to bear in mind for games like Dishonored 2 a single writer doesn't matter much since they think of the features way before the writing. And its feature of playing as either Corvo or Emily hurt the writing a lot if you ask me, since it ended up way more impersonal because of it. Though even with that in mind, the worldbuilding felt like it took a nosedive from the first even though it tried hard to distinct itself with the sandy city.
Bottom line is that it's not exactly favorable if the writer will work on VtmB2, but I wouldn't call it a death sentence by any stretch of the imagination.
Luis Williams
Go back to SL or Goldshire.
Dylan Cox
good, those archaic mechanics are useless
Lincoln Davis
That's kind of what I'm driving at. The likelihood that they'll actually be able to recapture the mood, characters, dialogue, etc. of the first game is unlikely. Meaning they're probably going to lean as heavily as they can get away with on nostalgia bait. Therefore, making the game fun and intuitive to play will be the best way for them to make it stand out and get good reviews since it's the one aspect they likely have the competence to beat the first game on.
Liam Williams
I'm sorry you cant handle my high i.q
Julian Torres
most of the time in CRPGs you automatically git gud once you reach a high level without having to actually learn how to play or it's a "hardcore" crpg and they expect you to understand everything at character creation and you either become invincible if you do or get fucked by a brick wall if you don't
David Hughes
Paradox is greedier than EA. EA just shits out trashy games made on a shoestring budget that only retards (aka children) would be stupid enough to buy. Paradox on the other hand tries nostalgia-baiting people into buying their shitty games by comparing them to old beloved games that have either died out or been destroyed by another company and then they'll just release them in a half-finished state before pumping out a fuckload of basic DLC for it. Anyone that thinks Masquerade 2 won't be generic garbage meant to appeal to the widest possible audience possible while getting DLC shoved up it's ass every two months until it stops being profitable is kidding themselves.
have you ever played video games? Do you enjoy them? In CRPGs you can be any thing and win, you create a character and they your best to keep your character alive. Most games don't give you enough points to deviate from your set character. Thats fucking IT.
Carson Stewart
If it ensures that there's no repeat of the sewer level I'm all for it
Tyler Smith
have you? because I feel like you don't understand them in a general sense
Samuel Morgan
literally just pick a three or four main skills and stick to them, it isn't a hard concept to grasp Most of the games will even tell you how many you can choose
Jordan Garcia
Why couldn't it just be like NV, where having the lower stat/strength requirements means you just can't use the weapon as effectively as you could otherwise? Also maybe I'm forgetting this but I thought you could use any weapon in vtmb regardless of stats anyway, it just affected accuracy and damage?
Zachary Cook
>I thought you could use any weapon in vtmb regardless of stats anyway, it just affected accuracy and damage? Yep.
To me it depends on how that decision fits in with the rest of the game. On its own it doesn't mean all that much, it might make sense in context with the other game mechanics, it might not. .
Benjamin Lewis
Expecting a 1:1 adaptation of the ruleset was sadly wishful thinking. Although, if there are no hard skill requirements for a weapon there's nothing preventing you from USING it. How proficient you'll be is a separate matter altogether.
Colton Flores
Damn now I no longer have to wait two seconds for an aiming tentacle to zoom in....
Landon White
yeah and it leads to boring gameplay that turns into a snoozefest once you play the game long enough and overpower everything despite not understanding how the game actually works
Hunter Miller
>become good There is none of that in crpgs. All they are is a test of patience or luck at finding out the perfect arbitrary stats you need to fill out because the developers couldn't actually, actually. You know what kid? Fuck you. Not worth my time. Nigger. NIGGER!
>instead, you are capable of handling any weapon you come across Wait I thought you could use any guns and melee even if you had low dots in them in bloodlines 1
Nicholas Watson
BUUUUUMMMMP
Kevin Morales
how about an enb? are there any good ones?
Mason Lewis
Only one
Alexander Roberts
Yep, into the trash it goes.
Ayden Turner
Bump 2
Hunter Moore
What are the best vampire movies and books
Nicholas Morales
LITERALLY ANYONE CAN PICK UP A GUN AND KNOW WHICH END KILLS PEOPLE
>ok, i got a job as a game tester for a big company >don't fuck this up >i'll hug the right wall until i have a solid mental map of this area
Jose Ramirez
It'll play like a even worse dishonored and you know it, people who think otherwise are retarded.
Mason Nguyen
there are simple games for dumb fucks like you play fallout 4 if you need a baby game for brainlets stop trying to fucking shit on deep games because they're not for you
Noah Jenkins
>need points to use a stick or a gun
retarded in the first place. your skill check is your damn aim
Aaron Lopez
Blade
Easton Sullivan
I'm going to drop the reddest of VTMB redpills here: the combat sucked, literally the only reason to play VTMB is exploration, the choices you can make, the characters you meet, and the story. There are a few good combat encounters but the systems around combat are so jank that most of them are just chores.
Literally ANYTHING they do will be an improvement over that shit.
The first game did that though? Putting points into the respective skill just made you better with using the weapon, it didn't prevent you from not using it.
Angel Peterson
Yep. Dots on firearms skill reduces sway and increases dps. Melee is dps.
Julian Robinson
you think this game is going to have any kind of difficulty? lol
Nathaniel Carter
N-NOOOOOOO IT'S FLAWLESS
Ian Howard
So, what, it's going to be a standard leveling system where you unlock stuff as you level up? I guess that would help keep you from busting the game.
Leo Fisher
>Players no longer assign attribute thats what you retards get for hyping a cutscene
Anthony Evans
Interview with the Vampire. I don't recommend anything that came after though.
Angel Gray
A lot of people forgive combat for a powerful immersion and RP depth in an RPG. Morrowind has very traditional 'dice roll' combat with lack luster sounds and animations but people love it because it's RP so in depth.
Leo Cook
I'm not sure where the wording of that question came from. We're certainly not removing the player's ability to apply points to skills, attributes, or disciplines. >I'm not sure where the wording of that question came from. We're certainly not removing the player's ability to apply points to skills, attributes, or disciplines. I'm not sure where the wording of that question came from. We're certainly not removing the player's ability to apply points to skills, attributes, or disciplines. >I'm not sure where the wording of that question came from. We're certainly not removing the player's ability to apply points to skills, attributes, or disciplines. I'm not sure where the wording of that question came from. We're certainly not removing the player's ability to apply points to skills, attributes, or disciplines. >I'm not sure where the wording of that question came from. We're certainly not removing the player's ability to apply points to skills, attributes, or disciplines. I'm not sure where the wording of that question came from. We're certainly not removing the player's ability to apply points to skills, attributes, or disciplines. >I'm not sure where the wording of that question came from. We're certainly not removing the player's ability to apply points to skills, attributes, or disciplines.
>to determine their abilities what does that even mean? so will there be no (zero) rpg elements or just like fallout 4 you can use everything but some perks improve certain things? either way, sounds like some casualised """""""rpg""""""" for normies so they can try everything on their first try. shit idea and it doesn't even attract more players.
Adrian Thompson
What did he mean by this?
Landon Perez
>all these fags falseflagging as boomers and pretending you couldn't use any weapon regardless of stats in the first game L M A O M A O
So the journo writing this shit article didn't get what the fuck the stat system for Bloodlines 2 is? Color me shocked. Last I remember they said it would it be like the first one, although with a modified character sheet and more straightforward.
Sebastian Cooper
>fallout 4 you can use everything but some perks improve certain things? You do know the first game did that right? Stats made you better at using shit, they weren't a requirement to actually use it.
Lucas Howard
It won't play like a even worse dishonored and you know it, people who think otherwise are retarded
Jacob Foster
>playing a thin blood sounds pretty interesting to me. Don't you want to be the underdog fucking everyone up?
John White
Bros I wanted to browse v while taking a shit but this is the biggest shit of my life and it's so painful. What do I do? I'm scared
Lincoln Gray
He literally states in the article that he never played bloodlines.
Zachary Jones
was there blood? Don't let the poop touch the wounds while wiping.
Aiden Edwards
I assume its suppose to be a dev on leddit?
Gavin Reed
Why are Ventrue so chad? No other clan's outfits even come close.
Angel Lopez
every other clan literately has more interesting clothing.
Ethan Gomez
Are Ventrue canonically the most powerful clan of the lot?
Or is it really Tremere?
Easton Gray
Fucking amazing argument there user, really pwned me Ebin style there.
Well you can use any weapon you want in 2E DND as well but you get penalties, same in Bloodlines. You can't hit shit with guns and your damage is laughable if your firearms is at 1. Certain weapons make use of different skills so they are more effective at a higher skill.
Kevin Brooks
Right back at you
Josiah Anderson
Ventrue are more or less the "leader" archetypal clan but Tremere's are the most useful to the Camarilla. They also are probably the pound for pound strongest of the bunch as well seeing as they're filthy mage hybrids
Liam Brooks
What have you been eating? Also try to repeatedly close your asshole every 3 seconds while pushing it out to squeeze / "cut" it to smaller pieces.
Kevin James
This is what happens when these journo fags are used to play Bioware/Bethesda RPG garbage.
Xavier Jones
The wound is on my ass, user. I dont know if I can
Lmao, I have never killed my hype in something faster than after reading this, pretty fucking impressive.
The balls on that journo to say something like "A True RPG Descendant" and then contradict it completely.
Hudson Powell
Yes.
Evan Howard
Brujah outfits suck and Tremere have worse suits. Gangrel outfits are pretty good.
Wyatt Cruz
I see.
Lucas Campbell
If Is an actual dev, then you have nothing to worry about
Easton Thomas
yes, just switch outfits if you need to pick a lock, then switch back. I think it's F2 or F3 to toggle "armor".
Levi Ward
GET WOKE GO BROKE
Jeremiah Harris
How about you watch the actual interview with the Devs instead of reading seemingly factually wrong opinions of a journo that has never played the original bloodlines? youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0qQlCfTYU&feature=youtu.be
Kevin Fisher
Yea Forums is filled with idiots that are ready to swallow any sort of e-drama
Logan Garcia
More like whoever writes for DualShockers is a complete idiot and shouldn't be misleading people. What happened to standards? Is everyone a fucking idiot or just you?
Oliver Hill
>game is based on TTRPG with defined mechanics >throw all that shit out
>anons getting mad about a thing that was present in the original Fucking hell is Yea Forums retarded
Jason Cox
The only thing I had recently was Zaxbys. I've never had my ass so thoroughly shredded. Log cutting technique worked though. Thanks based user
Jeremiah Williams
Game journalists being retarded is not exactly a new thing user. Especially
Henry Powell
Yet you have a thread filled with people that took it at face value without even a pinch of investigation. Is everyone a fucking idiot or just you?
Isaiah Ross
So the site for Bloodlines 2 has six clans listed, but hasn't namedropped them yet. Who do you think they'll be? Just the usual Camarilla flavored ones, minus Gangrel? Or will they mix it up with some independent ones, like Followers of Set, Ravnos or Giovanni, or just straight up let you have at it as a Sabbat Clan, meaning Lasombra ot Tzimisce?
yes, or they will have Gangrel, but not have Malkavians. They will probably have Malkavians tough.
Nicholas Collins
>During the trial you get a sense of a feud between some vampire clans and a fire is set off mid-trial, letting you escape while also killing some presumably important vampire figures at the same time. wait so you get to diablarize some poor fucker from the get go and the whole thin blood thing is a bait? or is it just an accident?
Bentley Ward
>Removed the character sheet >Character can just do anything >Rumours you start as a fucking thin blood and 'level up' This thing is a fucking train wreck in slow motion.
Jordan Ross
JUST FUCK MY GENRE UP
Lincoln Carter
Why would anyone play as Ventrue/Toredor/Gangrel in the first game? By far and away the most boring clans with the most boring choices (not speaking in overall lore terms, speaking purely in game). Outside of the prince, Ventrue gets nothing and Toredor are Twilight tier faggots. Gangrel had the potential to be cool (not being in the Camrilla) but nobody talks about it in game.
Brujah have that "muh anarchist" spin on them. Nosferatu/Malk are unquestionably unique runs. Tremere are the most disliked of the bunch with probably the most unique dialogue out of the "normal" clans.
The Lost Boys, Near Dark, John Carpenter's Vampires, Lifeforce.
Jeremiah Jenkins
the entire fanbase, both game and pnp, have made malkavs an iconic clan you can't just simply not include also why would they talk about "handling" the clan with sensitivity if they weren't going to make them playable
Ryder Powell
>Gangrel >boring
Fucking animalism. Fucking protean. Fucking unique interactions with Beckett. Fucking waling on all fours like a insane urban savage. Are you deluded?
Liam Green
Have anyone tried Bloodlines Extreme mod? How harder does the game get?
Levi Turner
>Yea Forums losing its shit at the drop of a hat because it fit into their whiny preconceived asspain about le evil SJWs >there wasn't an issue in the first place >wowitsfuckingnothing.jpg
Evan Long
toreadors are for artsy hipsters and gun builds auspex celerity nigggga
If this game actually does end up being decent, here's hoping we see a game set in the Dark Ages.
Diablerie is just speculation from fans though. It's something inherently seen as evil, as it leaves a taint on your aura/soul, and everyone can sense some wrongness about you even without Auspex.
It's easy to post something on Yea Forums, 90% of this board is about a retarded, reactionary answer to something without even thinking about it first, it's not indicative of anything - that's just how Yea Forums is.
Someone who supposedly saw a live demo of the game fucking up this hard shouldn't be tolerated and it should at least be a sign for that person to get their shit together, people usually take such things at face value because even a video game journalist is held to some kind of standard. All I've seen that points to the contrary (as to them actually having a stat system in the game) is a fucking unconfirmed reddit post from some literally who.
Anthony Morales
based and justicepilled.
Jonathan Rodriguez
I picked Ventrue because I knew nothing about the game except that you can talk your way through things, so I put everything into persuasion stats. And then I reached the sewer and regretted my decision.
Brandon Gray
>budget Nosferatu experience
Wooooooooooow
>Beckett
Who shows up like what, 3 times in the whole game? Gangrel are fucking sub humans but not in a cool way like Nosferatus
Nolan Jackson
Pretty sure they said the point system was still there. And in the original you could still pick up everything from the start, that's not a change. Points just made handling the weapons better and their damage higher. I assume OP and many posters ITT have not played the original though, and are just here for le happening. Go back to your containment board.
Angel Evans
So from what they said in that interview the first section of the game basically acts as the character quiz determining what clan you join.
Thomas Thomas
Lasombra are Camarilla now in 5th Edition. But i would expect to see Gangrel more than Lasombra, mainly because i really can't see certain disciplines like Obtenebration or Vicisitude work in a Videogame, compared to Grangrel discplines which are quite easy.
>playing a thin blood Really? Did thin blood lore change in the recent WoD edition?
Daniel Evans
Holy shit, that's probably why he's facing his left.
Ryder Stewart
Yeah Malkavians are absolutely going to be a thing. Most likely with Domination instead of Dementation though if they go with V5.
William Morales
Good taste.
Charles Martin
I did, but I dropped it halfway through. I'd just rather play Thief. Or I might play Dishonerd 1.
David Gray
>Lasombra are Camarilla now in 5th Edition. Not that guy, but wtf? Did Lasombra lore change completely or something? Why are they not heads of the Sabbat?
Dylan Ortiz
There's plenty of red flags surrounding this project, but what would be a thing what would make you uncontrollably hyped for it? For me it would have to be Simon Templeman having a major role in the game, maybe even a main antagonist or something.
>Toreador >Focus on dialogue/RP skills >Celerity past shitty combat Literally the best way to play Bloodlines.
Luis Edwards
They jumped ship since the Sabbat got fucked to death during the 2nd Inquisition because everyone went full retard and the Nosferatu dropped the ball so hard that everyone found their precious Shreck.net Gangrel leaving Camarilla was in oWoD and with 5th edition they just cement that again that the Gangrel hate the Camarilla bullshit. Well that and their Antideluvian woke up and merged with the planet.
Henry Adams
>Players no longer assign attribute points to determine their abilities; instead, you are capable of handling any weapon you come across. holy shiiiiit another dumbed down game for "gamers" LUL and wtf is wrong with his face? lmao
Luis Price
>can't see disciplines like Obtenebration work in a video game Why? They worked just fine for the two The Darkness games.
Sabbat fucked off to the middle east. But Lasombra is still not playable nor in the Camarilla, they'll be in Chicago by Night but that's still unreleased.
Michael Torres
By the time you get to Hollywood there is abundant amount of exp to spend. The sewers is an ugly place for everyone. I don't remember about vanilla much but unofficial patch gives 3 shortcuts to restock in city and a secret hatch to skip the sequence as a whole.
Easton Robinson
They split up with the majority of the Clan ending up in the camilla after the Sabbat weakened itself by fucking off to the middle east and World goverments started buttfucking everyone.
Hunter Anderson
2nd Inquisition also fucked them into the ground all over the planet and especially Europe. Sabbat is a fucking shell of its former power hence why Lasombra jumped ship. Least they didn't get blown up so hard their blood changed like the Tremere.
Kayden Myers
>A decision you will have to make early on is what kind of mobility do you want. Do you want to turn into gas in order to float through air vents? Maybe wield telekinesis to pick up and throw objects, or perhaps fly over gaps with the required visual effects of bats surrounding you? Kain could do all three. Just saying.
Jackson Sanchez
Sure, and although i'd LOVE to see it, i highly doubt the Dev is going to put the amount of work into the single Discipline of a single clan required to make it even close to Darkness.
It was my first playthrough, I was assigning stats like a retard to anything that might be useful in talking. I maxed out intimidation.
Eli Nguyen
While all of that is a pretty traditional Vampire-y thing to do that doesn't sound like it fits with VTM rules. I mean sure, mid- to high-rank Gangrel disciplines can make you turn into bats or fog, but this sounds like just a thing everyone can do.
Ayden Mitchell
>they'll be in Chicago by Night but that's still unreleased. almost forgot about that, /tg/ has the sneak peek
What clan was Nagaraja, the flesh eating bombshell in the first game?
Love Bloodlines but I never played the tabletop or anything.
Noah Campbell
How did you make it all the way to the sewers without realizing that you'd need combat stats
Caleb Davis
Well, Kain is deified and the Clans tell tales of him, you're just a thin-blood.
Nicholas Jones
Some obscure Indian/TMR bloodline.
Alexander Gonzalez
Oh. Guess I answered my own question, I googled flesh eating vampire bloodlines and I thought it was her name.
Okay the, Guess I'll read.
Logan Cook
Where the fuck is this from?
Jack Russell
More like >have auto-shotty and large ass revolver
Hunter Barnes
Thanks, so as I understand it the Lasombra realised that the Sabbat had been ineffective in killing their ancients and they weren't actually free, and now want to let mortals and hunters do their job for them?
Jason Myers
Tremere are pretty much the clan I imagine was the most canon and also have the coolest backstory
Angel Morgan
Damn it, Kain, you are not God! This act of multi speccing is unconscionable!
Nathaniel Reyes
>justify Malkavians have the most insight into the game and thus their dialogue is the most unique. Since the gameplay isn't exactly a thing to be praised in the game, story, atmosphere, VA and such take the spotlight.
>Tremere Best Disciplines, both visually and gameplay-wise.
Jack Sanders
Shape-shifting and forcing people to do what I want is fun though. Plus that quiz thing gave me Gangrel for my clan.
Brody Mitchell
Yeah, I agree. Bloodlines never let you do any of the more overpowered shit because you were a fledgeling, meanwhile in universe you could only get one of these abilities if you spec'd hard into something, and that's only if you had the right clan. It's even more retarded given that you're a thin-blood.
Sure, but keep in mind that he was mortal once, as they were they all.
What experience points I gained, I can also spec, my child.
The main incentive was the Second Inqusition fucking everyone in the ass on a scope Vampires have never seen before and the fact that what was left of the Sabbat in the civiliced world was inefective to deal with it.
Nathan Miller
How could nosferatu be so low? They get the most unique fun dialogue and interactions out of all clans after malkavian.
Cooper Lopez
>nosferatu this low
Camden Bailey
yep, just did the sewers yesterday as Ventrue with that loadout. The glock is good too, due to its mag size and amount of ammo you can carry for it. A few shot takes down a geodude, can be pretty hairy if there are like 8 of them and you without celerity.
Cooper Foster
>the most fun clans to play are at the top sounds about right
Lucas Sanchez
When is the full thing supposed to drop?
Thomas Morales
Story driven game! none of that dnd bullshit!
Dominic Williams
>nobody likes cringy commies based
Lincoln Nelson
Stealth is really fucking clunky in this game.
Camden Fisher
Toreador is the best clan to play as cute girl and also Celerity/Auspex is fun
Caleb Ward
I think in summer.
William Fisher
That's why nosferatu have invisibility discipline. Just sneak and suck enemies dry.
Tyler Ross
MADE ISOLATED
Kevin Jackson
Female toreador is the least cute player character in the game though, I always play chad toreador instead. Makes for a better dialogue with VV, too.
Wyatt Mitchell
Who said anything about stealth? Obfuscate is literally an invisibility discipline (for living beings at least) and malkavians have it too. Besides, you don't need to be stealthy as a nos. My first nosferatu playthrough was a misanthropic low-humanity nossie with maxed animalism and potence for full gore, no hiding the beast, no stealth.
John Johnson
It's disturbingly wonderful that your aim is worse during movement even with celerity on.
Isaac Wright
and to think they want to tone down the malks
Zachary Carter
>Gangrel are fucking sub humans t. Falseflagging nosferatu
Jaxson Young
I don't use any of the default skins for girls, they all look like shit. Modded skins
Colton Thomas
>Tremere >Not playing a real vampire but just a lucky mumbo jumbo considered "vampire". This is why we have ghenna.
Isaac Parker
Nah, the story was kinda shit for numerous reasons, but it also had some small moments which I haven't seen in many games. You can lobotomize a genius, evil (this is seen as a "good", non lethal method of getting rid of him) scientist and then he'll just sit in his chair, drool, fuck up calculations in his head and finally ask you to kill him.
Haven't had a moment this fucking harrowing in a video game in a long while.
Leo Hill
What gen was the MC of VTMB, 14th?
Jayden Gomez
Does celerity work better with guns or melee?
Elijah Lee
I thought VtMB had fun gameplay
Justin Barnes
8th
Cameron Gomez
8th
Carter Stewart
Absolute state of brujah niggers
Aiden Butler
Couldn't you use any weapon in the first game too?
Robert Rivera
Generally considered 8th generation based on the Bloodpool in the game.
Noah Thompson
Sounds pretty shit to be honest. Even with the work put into the class in V5.
Luke Wilson
Man, whoever sired you must've been a complete fucking idiot. Yeah, I know the reason you are so powerful is because of behind the scenes fuckery
Colton Powell
Nobody wants to willingly play a uggo.
Ryan Thompson
8th, going by his abilities. There's some implied powerlevel fuckery going, which leads people to believe Cain was juicing you up.
Jordan Perry
For a lorelet, would that be considered average for most vampires and anything below that is going into shitter territory?
Angel Reyes
Even with celerity, is that right? Trying to shoot any gun while moving in this game seems to be pretty terrible even with a decent firearms score. One thing I noticed yesterday that I thought was pretty cool with the guns was that if you shoot a zombie in the head it does a crazy amount of damage and one shots them. That's pretty cool for an RPG game to consider that, usually there are no headshots with zombies in RPGs.
Jordan Gray
VTMB had the Brawl, Firearms and Melee skills. B2 apparently doesn't but then again we're already told that the combat is going to be primarily melee and guns just a temporary pickup.
Adam Perry
cant a thinblood just diablerize another vampire to become stronger?
Adam Butler
Tremere's are real vampires and are the most unique of the clans because of their lack of connections to Cain and his children.
Luke Rogers
No not really, in the Pen & Paper a new character was generally 13th generation unless you invested in perks or the group wanted to play a different story, of course. But 13th generation was usually considered the default starting point a fresh vampire. VTMB2 apparently starts the character as a thinblood which would be 14-15th generation.
Alexander Powell
Not at all. One of the most powerful vampires you meet in the game, Beckett, is 7th generation. Smiling Jack is 10th gen.
Adam Howard
requesting vampire the masquerade v5 pdf >requesting vampire the masquerade v5 pdf requesting vampire the masquerade v5 pdf >requesting vampire the masquerade v5 pdf requesting vampire the masquerade v5 pdf >requesting vampire the masquerade v5 pdf requesting vampire the masquerade v5 pdf >requesting vampire the masquerade v5 pdf
Colton Howard
Yes
Eli Rogers
I'm off to find the sarcophagus, lads. should I open it?
David Miller
It's cooler with guns.
Tyler Sullivan
>B2 apparently doesn't Wrong, the journo that said that was just retarded. See >guns just a temporary pickup Again, that shit was said by 1(one) journalist based on a 30 min demo. Probably not right at all.
Niggers need to stop trusting journalists.
Ayden Howard
Huh? The article only says you don't need to use points in order to equip a certain weapon, not that they removed the corresponding skills. I do hope for unarmed it works kind of like Kenshi, where if you train martial arts your character does new moves as he gets better, from doing a shitty slap to a roundhouse kick or one-two combo, or flying knee followed by a punch.
Andrew Jackson
Wonder if Mary Elizabeth McGlynn will make a comeback as a VA in the game. Would be cool to hear Pisha/Motoko in it.
Alexander Perry
You'd have to figure out how to suck the bastard first, and then you'd have to be strong-willed to shrug off attempts to GTA your mind. Even then, you'll be changed.
Colton Ortiz
Cyberpunk 2077 is going to render this game irrelevant
Luis Gonzalez
what’s a good clan for the first play through? mind you my first will probably be my last unless the game sweeps me off my feet
Carter Campbell
What made you think that you shouldn't?
Gavin Ross
Huh, so without Caine roiding you up you'd still be pretty far up the food chain then?
Nicholas Harris
It still has attributes according to the actual devs, I think there is still one for firearms. I think they are bottling the interviews.
Andrew Martin
My dick will render your asshole irrelevant
Jack Gutierrez
What? Bloodlines 1? Definitely melee for first 3/4 of the game, then guns.
Evan Walker
Man, I'm stupid. I always thought Beckett was a werewolf. Same with the serial killer.
Brody Brown
Guns
Jack Brooks
>without Caine roiding you up It would be like trying to kill a baby t-rex On one hand, it's a t-rex, on another it's a baby t-rex and no one's protecting it
Charles Watson
>just a random reddit post >no dev tag >no official tweet >no proof >no hope stats are gone. cope
Technocracy and Black Spiral Dancers being part of the story
Jaxson Turner
He's just a furry
Cooper Phillips
You'te still a newborn so you'd lack in raw experience, but the pure potency of your power would give an 8th generation a considerable advantage, yeah. Like, mind controlling powers like Domination or Presence work considerably better against vampires of a lower generation than you.
Jayden Bell
Yes. 8th generation is nothing to scoff at. Of course, you'd still be a 1 week old shitter, so you wouldn't be able to pull off anything even close to all the shit the PC does
Henry White
>the reason why Beckett was there at the warehouse was because he was yiffing the guard dogs
it was ok not great story was pretty much the first game plus dlc redone but with better graphics and in sandland desu the story to dishonored was never that good but you had the odd gay character here and there nothing too intrusive
Eli Cook
Tremere if you invest early into blood magic you'll fuck just about everyone up with minimal effort
Malk and Nosferatu Invisibility break the game in your favor as well. Every other clan is just a matter of whether you prefer melee to guns.
Brody Davis
Thank you Doctor Caine
Levi Gutierrez
just sneak up behind one and press f
Austin Harris
>l0l p3nguin d00m XDD clan Malk PC has some lolrandom dialogue lines but they're not all like that. A lot of them are just some simple wordplay.
Isaiah Perez
Horseshit. The optimization. inb4 "but patches negligibly improved it"
Camden Jenkins
That's literally what you're going to do in Bloodlines 2. Being a Thinblood is basically the tutorial. I just hope they treat the diablerization with the weight it should have.
Caleb Smith
Odjebi, budalo.
Daniel Young
You know what? I bet this game just be "ok" not bad just "ok"
I'm currently replaying as a malk and fuck if the sneaking segment on the ship isn't boring as hell. Any notable pickups that will increase my stats or something? At this point I'm just walking around with obfuscate on, without touching any guards since LaCroix gets pissy if you do.
Dylan Jones
Just read the clan descriptions and pick whichever sounds most interesting to you. Or do the in-game quiz.
Luke Kelly
You can in theory. In practice, a Thinblood vampire is weak enough that they can get fucked up a Ghoul. You better hope you're meeting that Vamp on the worst day of his unlife.
>Any notable pickups that will increase my stats or something? Nah, only from the hotel, Grout's mansion, Andrei's place, and the Giovanni mansion have occult item pickups.
Parker Young
Builds are also choices
Christian Rivera
Fallout 4 lets you pick perks and shit though. Your character isn't interchangeable with any other character.
Aj sad iskreno, koji kurac daješ ovim retardima ovde linkove za skidanje bilo čega, kad su toliko jebeni lenji da ne mogu ni da odu do nekog drugog mesta gde mogu to da nađu veoma lako?
Samuel Young
Just lie back and think of the Penthouse
Leo Brown
Don't the camerilla offer that opportunity to diablerize to some thin bloods for being good bois? Maybe you'll help a group of kindred deal with a vampire that's fucking shit up for everyone, and as a reward for it they offer the opportunity to you? Could still have some be unsure/against it though, and word gets around.
Brody Stewart
WHAT DISCIPLINE LETS KINDRED TELEKINETISIZE SHIT NO ONE WILL TELL ME
Sebastian Martinez
jer nisam neki gorki feget.
Isaiah Richardson
I'm glad Bethesda ditched the worthless stats forever. Starfield and TES VI will RPG awards of the year easily and make dumb neckbeards cry while the rest of the world laughs.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Yeah, but the vampire would have to be weakened by a lot. Thin bloods are barely stronger than humans.
Ryan Hill
Your predictions are valuable to the community froggo
Aiden Ward
I'm glad we're in 2019 and Bethesda is finally a world-wide joke like they've always deserved to be
Dylan Wright
so you didn't get to the time travel mansion?
Elijah Davis
Most of the time when a Blood Hunt is called, the Camarilla will look the other way of the target gets diablerized. So that's probably what's going to happen here.
Cooper Harris
Does that one dev unironically go about his daily life dressed like a character from the game?
Blake Wood
But it's up to you which weapon you want to wield. That's role playing you moron.
Bloodlines 2 will shit on your boring shitty stats game and everyone will buy. Deal with it.
Samuel Perez
Ti si još veća pederčina, samo bi da pušiš drugima kurac i da ti kažu hvala.
Christian Hill
>RPG awards of the year easily No shit brainlet, just like everyone expects TLOU2 to rake in all the GOTY awards whatever year it comes out. Journos saying your game is good doesnt automatically make it good. They said the same about botw and Overwatch and god of soi and those games sucked.
Jace Robinson
Perks > stats, that's why Bethesda is so brilliant and knows how to make good RPGs.
Evan Wilson
>tfw keep restarting the game halfway through santa monica to see how would I deal with stuff with different character send help
Tyler Brown
mad
Julian Wood
user... that's not how it works. He's facing his right.
Angel Taylor
I don't think so? Is that the clockwork manor? I forget how far I got. I still have it installed, I could pick it up again any time. Depends on how bored I am.
Justin Turner
Just push past the feeling. The game isn't very long anyway, its like 25-30 hours at the most.
Connor Scott
Building rpg mechanics that don't make the game play like shit is good. This isn't tabletop. Have you played the original? Its an absolute slog gameplay wise.
Landon Phillips
But Bloodlines 2 is following Bethesda's footprints and making amazing RPGs. You are just coping. Trying to rationalize that Bethesda aren't masterminds of RPG design.
Landon Butler
Thinblood Alchemy and Potence
William Gutierrez
Maybe you just get lucky and show up when the vampire has just got fucked up by a bunch of other kindred it killed or managed to escape from. Could have them be a boss like Artorias in dark souls where despite being completely fucked up and running on fumes by that point still being able to put up a hell of a fight to your bitch ass.
Justin Ramirez
rušenje socijalnih normi ovog mesta je moj fetiš, a kad drugim pušim kurac, isključivo pušim ovima što ne žele dok ih udaram u stomak, oralno silovanje u suštini. Niko nikada ne kaže hvala.
Anthony Thomas
>Potence WHAT SINCE WHEN WHAT
Jace Perry
aren't you busy making another Skyrim remaster Todd
Ryan Jenkins
nope it's a few missions after. it's a really fun gimmick level.
Josiah Hughes
>Journos saying your game is good doesnt automatically make it good. Nobody cares what butthurt contrarian dinosaurs who still cling on to stats think. We are the future and we are winning. Go home Luddite, this is the new shit. Big choices and freedom.
>LITERALLY ANYONE CAN PICK UP A GUN AND KNOW WHICH END KILLS PEOPLE Do you know: >how to aim properly >how to hold a gun properly so that the gun recoil wont slap you in the face >how to handle a gun besides pulling the trigger for example how to reload, dismantle a gun to clean it, how to act when it jams The difference is being effective about it
Cameron Cooper
>tfw the memory leaks crash the game after 40 mins of play FUCK ARKANE
James Harris
>instead, you are capable of handling any weapon you come across Anyone can pick up a gun off the street, point it and shoot. Swinging a baseball bat or stabbing with a knife is also easy enough.
Easton Lopez
>Ohey there boi, pls do a thing for me >Omg you're the BEST! If only I had someone who could do this other thing for me... *pout* >You will!? omg when you get back... >You did it! You're so brave. Just need one more thing and I'll be alllll ready to thank you *wink* Hay VV I got your thing- >aww thx bro! gotta go b-but >byeeeeee!
Fuck... I have never been thotted by a video game before. Need this back in my life.
>This isn't tabletop. Exactly, but try telling these knuckleheads about it. They won't admit that using a pistol or a shotgun is a choice and role-playing. I role-play all the time in FPS by choosing to stick to certain weapons. It's real role playing, LARP or whatever you want to call it, and it's the best way to role-play. That's why for example Bethesda's games are so brilliant because they let ourselves think about how we imagine role-playing and won't put stupid stats in there to prevent us from doing whatever we feel like
Gabriel Baker
It's not in Bloodlines as that only allows for the basic skills of each Discipline. Advanced Potence abilities have always had telekinetic abilities to shove, throw, and grab.
Juan Davis
Idi leči se.
Jordan Ramirez
>trusting subjective journo interpretations of 30 minute vertical slice demos that nobody has seen in 2019
oh wonderful, so I guess we can look forward to: >no more stat checks in dialogue >100% proficiency in combat with "feats" to make you even more proficient >regular leveling with level restricted powers and feats
Cooper Morales
Worst part is that thin blood is supposedly a "tutorial" and you choose to become whatever fucking clan you can become or just make shit up.
Holy fuck what is this fucking disaster?? And they say thin bloods were weak when you can literally become whatever the fuck you want as a thin blood??
Requiring IQ tests for posting on Yea Forums would improve things a lot.
Liam Martinez
>Yes, most people have seen enough TV and video games >Yes, most people have seen enough TV and video games >Literally the only thing on that list of three that matters in a game is reloading, which isn't even hard to learn
Murrica has enough school shooters to prove that even retards know how to use a gun.
In most RPGs you can use anything but you'll be penalized for not being specialized in them.
Joshua Smith
What do you do about the werewolf in Griffith Park?
Kevin Moore
Kinetics was also the hallmark Caitiff ability in the early pnp books to serve as an example of the kind of powers they manifest that clan vampires can not, though it was never further detailed as new editions released.
Kevin Flores
Diablerie is nothing new, you fucking faggot
Aiden Moore
guns are fine the moment you get the glock
Isaac Sanders
TO THE ABYSS WITH THEE
Jack Hill
Lubricate your anus with blood furfag's gonna yiff in hell tonight
Camden Cox
wait is that why people hate her did you dumb motherfuckers think you were going to get some hot coffee shit out of her
Brody Jones
Trap it in the observatory doors
Aiden King
People acting like og bloodlines was peak rpg when everything not story related sucked hard in that game lmao. They just need to focus on characters, story, aesthetics, music, lore and the overall vibe, bloodlines was never about the gameplay.
Jackson Hernandez
fug, it's true and it hurts
William Gomez
crush the cunt in the observatory
Brandon Harris
I'm not hating her i'm just saying she's a manipulative cunt, compared to the majority of characters in the game who are openly cunts.
Eli Myers
Bloodlines was definitely about the way you build your character, though. Stats and attributes was an important part of the game. At any rate, the OP is wrong, so whatever
Jordan Martinez
All the evil alt-righters getting dabbed on bahahaha YEET!
Grayson Wood
No, she's a great vampire character.
Grayson Taylor
yes
Samuel Barnes
That's just fucking stupid. I for one am expert at everything right from the get-go, similar to how Rey knew how to use a lightsaber and fight from Star Wars. I mean what the fuck is this board thinking? Don't you realize many kids born with Marvel movies want to have superpowers without earning them? Dovakhin or a weapons expert, shit like that. Paradox is smart for realizing our needs.
Carson Turner
This but unironically.
Ayden Martinez
celerity is just as game breaking as obfuscate and thaumaturgy
Benjamin Robinson
Is it me or these threads gradually become a little less retarded?
Jason Russell
i'll pirate it and i'm gonna have fun with it
Charles James
Fist of the Vampire.
Joseph Adams
Nope, OP is on the side of the industry, which decides how RPGs will work in the future. So he is in fact on the side of the good guys.
That's because the people that were just here for the drama have begun to fizzle out. They'll probably be back when more news arrives.
Kayden Hall
I did it, the werewolf is very confused by stairs kind of like ED-209
Jace Collins
Therese and Jeanette both lie and manipulate in the same way but for worse reasons, and Yea Forums still loves them. I think Yea Forums just hates VV because she's Toreador and everyone here is a Nosferatu.
Evan Allen
I just started, but how is thaumaturgy game breaking? Blood strike is weak as fuck, by the time I get my blood back, I'm already raped.
James Smith
don't you shitpost at me
Lucas Harris
Malkavian playthrough will be free dlc after 1 week
Isaiah Roberts
LEVELS NIGGA L E V E L S it's like that pro-gay campaign but it's true, it GETS BETTER
Luke Rogers
Fuck the alt-right and their discriminatory stats. Everything should be inclusive, except for the alt-right of course.
If you have a supply of blood packs or the occult item from Pisha that refills blood, you can spam Blood Strike while shooting/meleeing for a lot of extra damage. Even if you can just kite a boss, you can just kill them with Blood Strike. Purge disables big groups of enemies and Shield is also pretty strong.
Nolan Cook
90% of the stats were completely useless though, just like in every rpg. Face it, rpg mechanics were made for tabletop and porting them to vidya is dumb because vidya already simulates everything that tabletop rpg mechanics were designed to simulate.
>90% of the stats were completely useless though Once again I can't help but to be absolutely amazed at the brilliance of Paradox and how they figured out to copy Bethesda in this matter once again.
If it's not well-designed, then REMOVE IT.
Keep it simple, stupid. That's how you make RPGs better and increase your sales.
>cropping out the retarded smirking chimp-ghoul 0/10
Jacob Martinez
no, many people don't know a thing about guns, even in America you can pick one up and fire it, if it's loaded and chambered and the safety is off, but that doesn't mean you'll hit anything and the more steps you add to "pull trigger", the more likely that one of these people will just shoot themselves on accident or not shoot at all
Investigate, computers, finance, wits. That's just off the top of my head, probably got the names wrong since it's been a while.
Adrian Hall
the stats weren't completely useless per say. But the 1 to 100 thing was stupid cause skills only got better after investing at least 25 points in them. The Fallout 4 system was the same for most part, they just need more skills like a energy weapon skill.
David Mitchell
Fuck off. A little 10 year old girl can fire a gun just as well as a ex special forces veteran with decades of training.
Your stats logic makes no sense on any level whatsoever.
The fallout 4 interface was better I mean but the system was the same for the most part
Lincoln Jackson
hi paradoxshill
Chase King
bloodbags..
Daniel Moore
Nigga what are you on, you couldn't even finish some side quests without computers.
Luis Sanders
While I don't like the sound of that, I will wait until I see more before I judge.
Jose Ortiz
Yeah I never really gave a shite about the general melee/shooty combat in the original. It was more of a means to an end.
I'm still curious about other abilities though. Will there be hacking? Lockpicking? Persuasion? Specialized vampire powers? etc.
Matthew Barnes
>computers, wits. >hacking and defense are useless what
Caleb Parker
not him and i can't tell you what stats were useless but i can tell you what was too useful: motherfucking lockpicking and hacking because of course that's what fucking vampires do
Colton Ramirez
just taking the time defend our lord and saviour Todd Howard. Make sure to buy Fallout 76 in time for the dlc it should be really good. This
Kayden Garcia
>computers >useless What in the goddamn are you talking about. There's shit to hack everywhere. Anyway >all four combat stats are useful and viable depending on what clan you use them with >all covert skills but inspection are useful >public has two useless skills, haggle and intimadtion, with the other half being useful >everything in soak is useful
Leo Evans
>All the people saying hacking is a useful skill when you can just print out all the passwords from gamefaqs
Asher Carter
I don't really know the lore at all, why do people hate them because they are mages? Isn't magic fucking cool?
Anthony Peterson
Cara is a cute
Ryder Cook
that's boring
Chase Robinson
Because the Tremere basically stole vampiric powers. Tremere became a vampire by stealing vampire blood, not by being embraced by one
Ryder Bennett
she is but she's a little retarded sometimes
Angel Morales
Who would've known that skills become useless when you cheat
Blake Reyes
>A little 10 year old girl can fire a gun just as well as a ex special forces veteran with decades of training Ok, so youre baiting
Angel King
Only acceptable if you're a Malk and use the madness network.
Literally nobody thinks the combat in VTMB is good, who is the post aimed at? Was it bait for people like this spastic ?
Jonathan Lee
they're the same person
Noah Cooper
Pretty much only because Camarilla has fuck ALL in terms of magic otherwise. It's the primary reason why Tremere were allowed to survive through the Dark Ages. In fact, it's why they were such staunch supporters if the Masquerade and Camarilla when it was getting founded - because they realized it's their safety ticket so they made themselves indispensable.
Henry Gray
Yo, how about we on Yea Forums start organizing raids on developers who try to make RPGs with stats? We should start committing terrorist attacks against them so we can stop them from ruining our RPGs with stats.
We could call ourselves "Bethesda-bros." Our goal is to maintain RPG purity and standards as set by Fallout 4, so no other developer can come into our genre and ruin it with stats.
Bloodlines 2 gets a pass since they conformed to our rules, which include NO FUCKING STATS.
Lincoln Walker
>Literally nobody thinks the combat in VTMB is good I thought it was pretty fun. Honestly it seems like most people just don't pay attention to the game's instructions and then blame the game. There are some issues with enemy balance later in the game, but melee combat is still pretty fun.
Nicholas Moore
Huh? Are you trying to make fun of us anti-statsfaggots? What's wrong with our thinking that 10 year old girls are weapons experts?
Hudson Lopez
>print out what year are we in
Ethan Martin
For the last time Todd, we won't organize into a group so you can easily sell Skyrim to us.
Mason James
>when you mouth off Knox at the beginning of the game and he joins the bloodhunt on you later in Santa Monica
This has to be a misunderstanding, they probably meant you can use any ranged weapon regardless of what abilities/disciplines and stats you put points in. I hope. They can't be that stupid that they're taking out one of the most fun parts of an RPG.
so if people don't want to depict mental illness in games shouldn't they also avoid depicting gender dysphoria?
Josiah Baker
For the intro part, then you choose your clan by diablerie or some other story event that happens to the PC.
Oliver Hill
are there any other mods that let you play as different clans besides antitribu?
Luis Rivera
Mitsoda said that there is a firearms skill in the actual game, plus the other devs mentioned that skills like seduction are coming back and can get buffed based on who you feed off of
My guess? It’s just a brief demo (like 30 minutes) designed just to show off the combat and nothing else. Stop getting your panties in a bunch and looking for shit to whine about
Remember: blend in. Look as obviously as new age Wicca as possible.
Landon Martin
I didn't know about that either, it is pretty cool. I always help Knox is why I've never seen it but this time I sped through the dialogue and picked all the jerk responses and he got pissed. He wouldn't even let me do the Foxy Boxes quest.
Ayden Mitchell
There’s also a character sheet >be /pol/ >spread lies, misinformation and propaganda Every time with you faggots
Nobody said they should avoid depicting mental illness in games, you're reading something that isn't there because you want to comment about trannies. The comments about the original game was from the article writer, not the devs, and saying that they want to be sensitive about how they depict mental illness isn't new either because Mitsoda said even in an old interview for the first game he didn't want it to be Looney Tunes.
Jaxon Edwards
they should just do what CDPR did and show the whole video
Hudson Robinson
>Arch Warhammer
What kind of fucking enunciation is that? It sounds completely fake and unlike any actual accent.
Jason Morris
Wtf does he mean better interface, vtmb interface was godlike.
Landon Anderson
Yeah we're a couple decades into Gehenna in our current year, and the game is still supposed to be modern, so Thin Bloods are going to play a bigger role in The Time of Thin Blood.
Liam Jones
this is why we need gameplay and more importantly why it wont be out by Q1 2020 THERE IS NOTHING YET only promises and conjecture E3 will have gameplay if theyre not completely full of shit
> Like many of its ilk, the perspective in Bloodlines 2 is always first person, save for a few climbing animations where a third person camera is used briefly to show you ascending a wall or special combat animations. D R O P P E D R O P P E D
Literally making the same mistakes as DXHR/MD with its pointless, annoying perspective switches. Why the fuck would you need to switch to third-person for ladders, and why the fuck do they still think Press F to Awesome Cutscene is in any way good design or fun? It's not that I couldn't live with it, it's that this idiocy basically means they're just not capable of designing a game properly and it'll seep into every other area of the game. Fuck, I had such high hopes.
Blloodlines was pretty much a 1st person game, 3rd person sucks in the original.
Caleb Richardson
>pic why would you shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane?
Samuel Scott
Unless the thin blood has a shotgun and can hit their head.
Joking asside, the clans are probably going to have thin blood minions in the game, and you'll sign up as fodder for a hunt of a dissident, then they'll let you diablerize them when they die to preserve the blood.
Christian King
>no grey skin it's trash
Camden Watson
She white as snow niggah
Jace Phillips
There is literally nothing wrong with having attributes and skills in an action rpg
If you don't have fun with character development, why are you playing an rpg and not just an action game? Serious question
Aaron Rodriguez
Does he say anything?
Robert Jackson
It'd have to change a lot though. A lot more personal intrigue and alliance-crafting, a lot less tweaking of laws and policies.
Daniel Moore
>Implying it isn't Vampire Grove Street 4 lyfe, nigga Gonna paint all of Seattle green. Starting with Valve HQ
Mason Reyes
There's brainlets who think she was genuine and not just getting you to do her dirty work for her because she's their waifu.
Could you at least pretend to know anything about the setting?
Colton Cooper
that guy accuses everything of being SJW. He's an ideological reactionary and can safely be dismissed.
Dylan Nguyen
Isn't that pretty much the point of the firearm stat in the first game, that you go from brainlet who doesn't know anything but point at bad goy and pull trigger to knowing how to properly use a firearm? Because from what we've seen that's not gone.
James Young
What the fuck is playing a game if you intend to just look up all the solutions? May as well pull up a entire step by step walkthrough at this point.
>tfw can use a inspection check on him to make him admit he's trying to use you to deal with the chink AWWWW MAN, I GET TO BE THE ONÉ TO KILL YOU DUDE
Jonathan Torres
it's almost at post limit tough, some fag made a new thread.
Adrian Young
I always hated the gunplay in VtMB. The guns sound like shit and they handle like shit even with points spent. Melee at least is tolerable
Carter Perry
beaten the game like 15 times, never saw that.
Jacob Jones
I didn't play Dishonored 2, but I read she was an 'external narrative consultant' that doesn't sound like a big influence, and she'll be writing mainly one part of Bloodlines 2, so I'm not too worried yet
Jaxon Lewis
well armor is also pointless if you turn godmode on, who knew
Josiah Hernandez
Thin bloods have their own blood magic.
Julian Cruz
They are supposed to be gypsies? I urge the designers to take a trip to Romania and stop romanticising these subhumans...
Liam Sullivan
I have a Romanian friend and he won't shut up about how fucking awful gypsies are so I believe you