SSD are probably the biggest performance changer of this decade

Games are larger because the assets within them are usually greater. Besides the point, SSDs with their finite write span aren't meant to have games installed and uninstalled rapidly, hence there being optical media up until recently on consoles. For PCs I still use hard drives for games since the difference in load speed difference is marginal for me.

>SSD are probably the biggest performance changer of this decade
So how many fps did you get exactly?

Should look into doing stripe raid with just hard disks with a card with dedicated cache buffer, SSD only last 5 months for me; the ones you can't open tend to burn out even faster

>SSDs with their finite write span aren't meant to have games installed and uninstalled rapidly
t. brainlet

The SSDs also don't clicketyclack

I just bought a 2tb ssd over Amazon for like 60 bucks. 4-5tb seem to be the hundred+ dollar drives now. Shit is crazy. I wish memory was that cheap

Probably QLC trash.

>SSD only last 5 months for me;
How fucking hard are you running them? I get 5 years or so out of mine, but that's just with typical daily use and staying below 75% capacity.

moving my OS to an m.2 SSD was a far better upgrade than my 144hz monitor was.

fight me.

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Explain.

I used to believe this too but it literally takes hundreds of TBs to reach the write limits now. Not that I ever would but you could probably put a single drive through 5 users with avg use up to capacity and be fine, depending on the architecture

Games are large because devs forgot how to compress their files.
You would have to literally install/uninstall a game millions of times to get the failures you're talking about.

Fuck clicketyclacks. I go out of my way to buy old mechanical keyboards because that fucking artificial clack is the worst sound in the history of human technological advancement.

got 960 evo 1TB for $109

Because I should have bought a 1 tb one. It was the first time I've gotten a ssd for a desktop so I thought 500 gb was enough for my games. Now a lot games are 30-60 gb so it feels bad.

Right now I'm debating between getting a 4tb hdd or a 1 tb ssd. I want both but I can only get one atm.

>Hard drivelets

HUEHUEHUE

SSDs and flash storage have finite write cycles where you can no longer write new data to the cells once the limit is reached. Not wholly accurate but a simple summary of it.

This isn't typically an issue for normal consumer use because today's drives require hundreds to thousands of TBs of data to be written to them.
They're far more durable than hard discs overall and unless something is physically damaged, hitting the limit won't cause you to lose data I believe, you'll just have to migrate over to a nee drive.

Even budget SSD's have 100 TBW ratings and even those are very conservative.
My primary drive from 2013 currently has 18.7 TBW on it and I used to cram all my games on it, plus the page file, plus work related stuff.
My 2 years old 500 Gb one that I used exclusively for games has 6.4 TBW.
Bigger (1 TB plus) drives have around 600 TBW ratings, you'll not reach that in 30 years.

It was true before, but now you can safely rewrite 25gb(from specification, even more in reality) every day for years.

>I-i-it's just load times though!

Reminder that every time you see someone complaining about stuttering in a game, it's his hard drive. Every time.

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His RAM is probably insufficient.

4tb ssd

modern games should come with specifications that say they need SSDs to play.

You know what? i'm fucking retarded. It was a portable drive I purchased in a hurry, but it's aactually 2TB harddrive, which makes loads more sense. I always keep backups regardless and haven't had issues.

my first SSD was 120gb for like $120 in 2012
couldn't even use it for more than 2 games because it was mainly for my OS

So 2tb ssds do still seem to be hundreds of dollars BUT, on average, 3-5TB drives really aren't much more expensive. We're getting there.

SSDs are good for OS and if you do work on your computer.
For games it's mostly muh loading times.

Why is HD storage getting so much better, but CPUs have been relatively stagnant?

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Ok grandpa.
HDD's nowadays are only good for bulk data storage, everything else should go on an SSD.

For me the 144hz isnt as good as the blur reduction, I played Apex legends in my gfs PC when it came out to try it and it felt like when you get drunk in GTA, every time I moved the camera everything became a homogenous blob of color for a second, and my monitor isnt even that great, if I find a job in summer Im gonna get a Navi card and a good ass monitor so I can experience zero blur.

>regretting spending $150 literal years ago
what's it like below the poverty line?

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Depends on the game really, I remember Diablo 3 running like trash on my PC until I ended up putting the entire game into a RAM disk which smoothed everything out. The game constantly streams in data from the drive.
Then I found out I wasted all that effort on Diablo 3.

Most modern games load and discard assets while you're playing, so those loading times can make a significant difference to your performance.

moore's law

>>suddenly every new game is 50gb or more in filesize
Do you really need to have 20 AAA garbage dumps installed at once?

making shit parallel is hard and there are limits on frequency

no i need 30 installed at once

Games have been doing that since forever.

Yes, my Internet connection is slow.

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At some point loading screens were abandoned in favor of texture streaming because of 7th generation console limitations.

I need my entire 340 game library installed with all my hundred GB work and school apps to feel battle ready. God forbid I want something I don't have and there's no internet

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Modern developers are incompetent fucks, but they can get away with it because they don't need to be anywhere near as efficient and resource conscientious as developers in the 80s and 90s.

Further, they've found that retards will pay exorbitant amounts of money for skins, further bloating the game's files.

Bad. I'm only using a RT 2070, i-9700k, and 32 gb ram. True poverty.

user, pls tell us how good your supercomputer is. Us poor boys gotta dream.

I'm shitposting and probably even poorer than you

>A bunch of Croatians slinging shit at their PC gets better CPU utilization than 90% of developers just by switching to Vulkan.
>B-but muh directx
>Muh OpenGL

FUCK

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>32 gb of ram

why?

Why not?

god I want this so bad but high end monitors are so fucking expensive and shipping one overseas is even more expensive, plus I don't see a reason to upgrade from my 1070 for the price 20xx cards are going for and the performance they give

Back in November you could get 2TB SSDs for under 250€
Even my porn collection is on SSDs now.

Maybe I'm old, but have to agree. It seems like they don't even try anymore. And I guess it's marketing ploy as well when it comes to file sizes.
Hell I don't even know if those were joke posts but have seen people here saying shit like hurr durr it's only 10gb, short game

>CPUs have been relatively stagnant?
Have you paid attention the last 2 years?

I forgot to say I bought a 144hz monitor while still rocking a 280x, I've been tempted to just get an used 1070 for 250 bucks but I know Im gonna regret it soon™ when Navi releases.

Parkinson's law, the more restricted you are to do something the more optimized the thing will be, eventually using every resource avaliable.

>pc "gaming"
AHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A MEME

Are M.2 ssd worth the extra price. My mobo has a slot for one.

Should I buy a 500gb SSD for my ps4 for 34 bucks? Or should I buy some doritos?

>os and games that need ssd go on ssd
>entirety of everything else goes on bigass spinning rust raid10 array

>Consolefags think their games and data are stored in their cuckbox magic infinite pocket
Enjoy your 30s loading times.

I was struggling with a 120GB SSD as my main drive until this week. I had 20gb left at all times with no games installed on it.
Bought a 1TB SSD for 120€ this week.
I feel free.

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buy $34 worth of doritos

How did you know I was American?

>he doesn't know that console games run from the disc/cart/card

Buy a 1-2tb SSHD instead if you can. The PS4 doesn't support SSD speeds because of it's outdated sata connection so the improvement is pretty negligible, like 10-15% faster maybe.
Funny part is that the PS4 Pro could support SSD speeds but for some reason sony has limited the bandwidth in software
Also, you said you have 34 BUCKS, of course you are 'Merican
More like 1-2 minutes.

I seriously, unironically hope thats not true.

Current gen games don't run from the disc anymore.
At least on the PS4 and Xbone, you need to install the games and the base .5-1tb fills up really fast, different story for the switch.

"bucks" is typically american slang and also the mention of doritos
I'm american too

The pro has shown to have improvements in games with the SSD. I have a pro. I don't even need the extra space since my external reads as fast as the crap HDD the ps4 comes with.

this hasn't been true for at least a decade now. Disks are just piracy prevention measures.

Of course its true, or do you honestly believe switch cards install to the flash memory?

Sorry, thought you meant you have a base PS4

I don't know why the fuck they went with sata2
Consoles are just hardware drm

Isn't the OS supposed to go on the SSD and the rest on the HDD? Put anything else on the SSD is optional.

>the ps4 and xb1 are the only console on the planet! no other console has ever existed whcih runs straight from the game media!
PC gamers everyone

5 months lmao, you must be absolutely retarded.

If it can use PCI-E then it's gonna be a lot faster than regular SSDs.

Then you never should buy anything because it will be cheaper in a few years.

Are you retarded? You should have bought one when you bought the MB.

Not really, NVMe drives are ridiculously fast on paper, faster than going from HDD to an SSD, but even at SSD speeds you're bottlenecked by so many other factors that it doesn't actually do anything.
They are pretty cool for certain things but if you aren't doing massive file transfers regularly don't bother.

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Not for games
SATA is more than enough

This

What said, if it's SATA M.2 it's going to be just as fast as a normal 2.5" SSD, if it's PCIE it can be 5-6x faster.
Because we were talking about current gen?
You retarded mongoloid.

>tfw 4t ssd
Shit loads instantaneously get with the time people it is well worth it my computer turns on in like 3 seconds

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Are SSD/HDD hybrids worth buying?

>Consoles are just hardware drm
This, but unironically.

No

For consoles and laptop secondary drive it is worth it.

They're shit. Just go for SSDs, their prices keep dropping and dropping anyway. Saw a 2tb ssd for 200$ a few days ago.

Lol, I hadn't even heard of them until I bought the motherboard. I was more concerned about getting a good mobo for gpu and cpu. Right now, my list of things to get for my pc includes a better screen, hdd, and ssd. The current ones are from my previous build.

No never. Either buy SSD or stick with your HDD.

the prices are dropping but the price per gigabyte is still shit.
>just buy the most expensive option and stop being poor
if i wanted to be told im poor i'd go to /g/ where they wave around their speccy screencaps all day long.

1 TB SSD is cheap enough. Hybrids are pointless at this point.

>/g/
Imagine having a penis that small.

>>just buy the most expensive option and stop being poor

I just meant that one of the most expensive option, which was priced at around 380$ before, dropped to 200$, and the prices will keep dropping. You can find 500 gb ssds for 60~$ and just buy one to put your games on.

sata ssds are dirt fucking cheap because they are already outdated tech, everybody uses pcie ssds now

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>yes goyim, get rid of your functioning HDDs and buy pcie ssds

fuck off retard

I think I'm going to buy a 1 tb pcie ssd and 4 tb hdd. Seems like a good balance for price.

How good of a monitor is good anons? My price limit is $500.