Who would win?

Wolf would deathblow his ass before Hunter finished his drawn out animation

>Also can the hunter also have infinite resurrections like the chosen undead and wolf in canon?

No, only Ashen one infinitely revives and Chosen undead would go mad after a few dozen deaths in the canon.

Sekiro can jump, swim, and grapple. No stamina bar either.

Underrated.

Wrong. Dreaming Hunters are immortal.

That implies him not getting shot.

The one with the most speed, mobility, infinite stamina, parry instincts and tools.
Sekiro and the hunter makes light work of the Chosen Undead but has a hard time dealing with the hunter himself, as agile as he is combined with his greater strength and durability. I'd say a match between them two boils down to environmental advantage. But in a dark arena like a labyrinth, Sekiro probably takes it.

Um, so everything that happens is a dream?

He would get snapped in half by everyone else

sekiro literally couldn't even hurt chosen undead because he has gaijin armor like the armored warrior but wolf would probably BTFO the hunter

If it's a match unbounded by game mechanics it would be an interesting fight, Sekiro has the agility of a ninja and the prosthetic, Hunter has ranged weapons and Chosen Undead has... a shield

No. You just don't understand BB's lore even at all. Just accept that Wolf/Hunter/Chosen Undead all auto revive within their world's canon.

do hunter or undead have a counter to firecracker?
if not they are fucked

Everyone can keep respawning so no one truly wins.

>chosen undead would ho mad after a few dozen deaths
you fucking what. he goes hollow when he loses the will to live and gives up. CU never gives up weather he links the fire or kills it, that's what makes him the /CHOSEN/ undead.
and what the fuck are you talking about?

Sekiro his limitless stamina will win

>and what the fuck are you talking about?
Bloodborne lore. Hunters who are part of the Hunter's Dream are immortal and revive the same way Chosen Undead or Sekiro do.

The Umbrella shield prosthetic has a upgrade that fully defends against the occult and when Parrying it stores damage that you can reflect back on the opponent.
The umbrella also Defends from all sides and nulls most damages that aren't Heavy unblockable/parryable attacks.

Hunters magic bullshit wouldn't have a chance.

How could he get snapped in half when he has greater strength, speed, and mobility than CU?

>bunch of nu-Sekiro fags pretending their faggot would win
Try equipping more than one weapon.
Or more than one magic at a time.
Or quality ranged combat.

This. There's no clear winner between the Hunter's strength and Sekiro's ninjutsu. Seems like the chosen undead could just outlast the both of them in terms of lifespan though.

are you forgetting about Chosen Undeads vast arsenal of over powered spells?

>parries your arrows and easily outruns your shitty slow magic

Either Sekiro or Hunter.
Sekiro has unlimited stamina and has incredible mobility and agility. Hunter is powerful enough to bring down eldritch gods, and becomes so powerful that he becomes one.

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Sekiro can Parry bullets while moving and in the air.

I'm talking about the Hunter retard

Wolf, cos when ressurecting dragonshit saps life force from surroundings.

Chosen undead has magic and actual plate armor if we're playing by those rules. Good luck breaking through his defense.

Objectively Hunter

>Deals with lovecraftian shit and monsters on the norm
>The blood makes him/her superhuman
>Can tank far more
>Has access to magic / cosmic stuff
>Viscerals can heal more
>Runes that make them more powerful
>Has access to more weapons and can also use a shield / wooden plank.

Meanwhile Sekiro can die of terror from simple spooks and is fragile as fuck

He can parry bullets too 'retard'.

>that fully defends against the occult
Ghosts =/= Elder Beings. Spiritual Attacks are not Dimensional Attacks. Hunter also has the fucking Cannon and that would obviously be equivalent to a Perilous attack. Beyond all that, every successful parry Hunter gets is basically gonna put Sekiro almost dead.

Hunter has a fucking Gatling Gun. Sekiro literaly can't parry fast enough for that. He'd have to use the Umbrella and that's not enough to stop Arcane Tools.

If everything happens in a dream then Sekiro would end the match in a split second due to Snap seeds.

Did you forget how Armored Knight was basically unbeatable had he not fought Sekiro on a bridge?

>no slayer of demons
that nigga has second chance

chosen undead revives because he's /the chosen/ undead. Nobody but him revives because of his will to succeed.
Sekiro can only revive twice cause of dragon shit flowing through his veins.
Hunters can cannonically only die once, then they lose their minds and go to hell in the hunters nightmare, which is basically another dimension. /The/ hunter is special in that he can freely move between all of the dimensions due to the rite granted by the messengers, but it's his revives aren't explained.

Can he parry a tentacle?

Magic Is classed as the occult my dude.

>deflects your attacks
>deathblows you

Also if you played Sekiro then you would know that there are some elder being looking fucks walking around.

Great point, this user knows his lore

>chosen undead revives because he's /the chosen/ undead.
Get the fuck out of here lorelet. Chosen Undead is just a random chump. Jesus christ. That's Dark Souls lore 101. He's just any ol' undead.

Arcane is not magic. It's interdimensional interference directly from Eldritch Gods from other dimensions.

>gatling has finite bullets and will lose against umbrella

Okay

>but arcane tools

okay, so you admit that ranged sucks against sekiro so you're ditching that and moving to arcane. You'll have to have a logical reason why arcane is unique somehow to the occult. I think it's reasonable to assume they'd function similarly.

They're spiritual, not dimensional. It's a HUGELY important difference.

he doesnt have to since the animations arcane moves take years to complete

If Shiva and the ninja pose a threat to CU than Sekiro will fucking end him.

Don't worry guys, i got this covered

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Hunter has a fucking Gatling Gun. Sekiro literaly can't parry fast enough for that
Umbrella can block it all with no health nor Posture damage.
Honestly there isn't a damn thing the other two can do to Sekiro because his only real weakness in unblockable attacks. Something The hunter or chosen undead can't do unless it's magic. Then the occult repelent Umbrella nulls that shit too.

Better: he can slice a tentacle.
reply the game.

Spiritualism is not the same as the science driven elements of Lovecraftian beings.

Reminder that Hunter can make his attacks 100% fire, lightning or arcane or even add poison damage to them and that Sekiro can't even parry that shit.

snap seeds are for illusions, retards

Wolf is easily the weakest one there.

That is a physical attack so yeah. If you want to say thats eldritch and will build up his terror then i can just say he uses his shield prosthetic to store up the energy and fire it back at you.

fuck off 2fag

how

He's right though, the Lovecraftian shit is literally like another dimension/plane of reality.

>powerlevel autism
I don't mind this

>Chosen Undead is undying
>Hunter can kill eldritch gods and become one
>Sekiro is the epitome of DEX, with unlimited stamina, deflections, and jumping
I dunno lads.

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Eldritch Lovecraft tentacle is not really physical.

Actually I believe it goes

Chosen Undead: Revives constantly so long as they have the drive to go on (otherwise they hollow in the bad way)

Sekiro: Can revive constantly at the cost of screwing over others with Dragonrot unless he is killed with something like The Mortal Blade. I take it 1-2 consecutive slayings leaves him comatose for a bit (thus how he ends up back at the shrine the first time dragonrot scenario occurs)

Good Hunter: So long as they are tied to the Hunter's Dream / in a contract they can't be put down for good until their job is done.

>spear-prosthetics your gaijin armor
>defelects your slow predictable attacks
>deathblows you cinematically
pfffsht nothin personnel;

Sekiro is able to revive mid battle. The undead and hunter don't.

Sekiro has legit more training than both

The prosthetic gives sekiro the most options to change combat. A fully upgraded axe will wreck the chosen undead stamina bar.

The fact that all sekiro has to do is keep hitting either till they run out of Stam and do a death blow makes both of them a fucking joke.

AND sekiro has a blade that severs immortality. On the death blow he can fucking kill both for good.

What kind of fucking moron thinks anyone but sekiro????

hunter = transdimensional projection. Read the description of snap seeds bitch.

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And Occult ain't magic. It's spiritual.
Same shit that this interdimensional bullshit is about but on a less intergalactic scale.

Nope, Chosen undead goes mad and hollows after dying so many times it just depends on how persistent you the player are. According to the lore literally anyone can link the flame or be the chosen one.

>You just don't understand BB's lore even at all.
Thats not a valid argument, you cant have it both ways its either a dream or it wasn't.
>Oh bro you retain all those abilities and shit because they manifested bla bla bla
No.

Its between Sekiro and Ashen one. But then again Ashen one literally kills the soul of cinder and gael who is the fucking dark soul

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Canonically I think the Hunter is easily the most powerful but as far as mechanics goes, Sekiro takes the cake.

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>throws ash in your face
>deathblows you
gg ez

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It is an arcane move yes but the tentacle is a melee strike. If it makes physical contact and is made of flesh, it will be sliced. Especially given it's casting speed and it can be intercepted by bullets, he can just use a shuriken.

>spiderman
>dex build
>can swim
>can spam parries

Sekiro

Dark Souls man has plate armor, or allah forgive me for saying this, Havel's. Which would make him impervious to all of Sekiro's attacks as seen by Roberto's daddy. He also has magic and shields that can't be split by an axe. So i give the win to Souls guy, unless he fights Sekiro in a bridge.
I didn't play Bloodborne so i don't know what Bloodman's deal is, i do know he can turn into a broccoli though, and that seems real dangerous.

If he gets the jump, Sekiro.
If they're all on even ground, the Hunter.
If it's a test to see who can go the longest, the Undead.

SEKIRO HAS A SWORD THAT KILLS UNDEAD OR IMMORTAL BEINGS FOR GOOD

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

I FUCKING WONDER WHO WINS IN JUST A BATTLE OF ATTRITION ALONE....

>Um, so everything that happens is a dream?
No, because the whole concept of Dreamlands is that they are real physical, transcendental planes of thought. The Waking World is real, and not a "dream".

The Good Hunter's ranged does fuck all for for damage. Sekiro is by far the most powerful of the protagonists. In BB and DaS, you fight the big bully. In Sekiro, you are the bully.

>No stamina bar either.
How the hell isn't this thread over?

the hunter is literally just a dream bro you can't even kill him if you don't know where his real body is at. sun tzu said some shit about how you win if you don't even have to fight, checkmate niggers

Okay Im getting tired of this, How do we compare are all the characters end game?

He would never hit Sekiro in a full havel set, what the fuck are you smoking. And he can't just hide behind a shield forever.

If he strikes, he gets parried.
If he turtles, his stamina is broken and he is open to a deathblow.

No magic, physically the weakest, he has no real counter to magic, and he can't harm people wearing armor. So anyone from Demon's Souls or Dark Souls 1-3 would be able to hard counter him with no issues. The only other souls protagonist that he could probably match in combat is the Hunter, and the Hunter has better weapons, access to cosmic magics, and guns
>but parry
The Hunter can parry using his guns, an dhe can do it at a distance as well. If wolf actually fought any of the other protagonists to the death he would probably lose.

The mortal blade can kill the hunter. The dream and the hunter are linked.

Plate armor makes you immune to deathblows in Sekiro, did you even get to Sudoku temple yet?

I don't fucking know man

Something that isn't real and is just a fake illusion made by some kind of host. The Hunter is an actual being. Snap Seeds would do nothing to him.

Why are we even including revives in this hypothetical? It would go on forever.

OBVIOUSLY no revives.

Chosen Undead has Poise

>If he strikes, he gets parried.
You are fully aware that every other souls protag can also parry, right?

Well it would go on forever, cause CU just gets his shit blitzed indefinitely.

Mortal Blade may potentially be able to deal with CU but that's assuming they operate on the same rules as we only saw Mortal Blade deal with centipede infested guys and that was only after directly killing em with it.

Hunter isn't undead. He's literally tied to another plane and can't go down for good until he does what he needs to do

SEKIRO has a blade that kills immortal beings... Such as fucking undead. No sekiro can kill both.

Bro, Chosen undead literally kills gods

as people have said, if you include revives sekiro eventually wins because he has a sword that can kill immortals

He's too fast for CU to parry, The Hunter is the only one that could see his strikes coming.

>there are people that think Sekiro would win when he legitimately could do nothing against a normal guy in plate armor

Sekiro doesn't stand a chance against Dark Souls, imagine fighting one of those shielded guys from Hirata state, but you can't cut their shield, and your weapon and death blows can't hurt them, and if you try to lure them to some place where you can kick them off a ledge they just stay back and spam spells at you, and even if you attack him he can parry you and death blow you too.

Until he parries Wolf and instantly OHKO's him because parrying in the other games is more op than it is in Sekiro.

Sekiro doesn't have to attack until he knocks hunter unbalanced. He doesn't have to worry about a gun because the umbrella doesn't have a durability
combine this with the ability to jump, Grappling hook, Attack you at a distance you can't parry with a sword and straight up disable the Hunters and Chosen undeads ability to revive forever. This is not mentioning the tools that aren't the fucking Umbrella. A Spear that stabs and sweeps through defenses while also setting the opponent ablaze, Various forms of Shuriken ranging from Normal, To magic homing, to piercing. An axe that breaks shields, Scares red eyed enemies, and sets you on fire. A canon that shoots various forms of fire while also doubling as a flame thrower, a Knife that injects two types of poisons and strings effortlessly into basic blade attacks, A fan that can straight up just turn the Hunter and Chosen undead around mid combat and be wide god damn open for back stabs. A whistle that confuses and scares Beasts and the occult. and a Feather fan that can tank any attack, Substitute sekiro with a blast of fire so he can appear behind, in front of, or above the opponent. also fire crackers that scare beasts and opens them up for increased physical damage.

There is also various blade arts but the hunter can't do fucking shit to Mortal Draw so it doesn't matter what the others are.

>unblockable
Some BB weapons have those. The Bloodletter for example. Its retardedly OP. Just hide behind a pillar and pan the camera waiting for the invaded to approach, then use the L2. Unblockable Frenzy explosion attack.
The Holy Moonlight Sword fires arcane bolts between the swings, so it can actually hit twice per swing.

There's also the Piercing Rifle. It goes through people. You can line up multiple enemies then fire and it'll hit them all.
The Gatling Gun can do more than 21,000 HP damage with a max Strength build with +bullets runes. I've seen a video where some guy just uses it to destroy all the bosses.
The church cannon fires in a parabola arc so it can't be defended from. Its like Dragonslayer Greatbow sniping from Dark Souls.

The Arcane Tools are also busted. Executioner's Gloves are slow homing crystal soul mass that forces the target to evade or block while the hunter can dish out another attack. The explosive grenade in the DLC is also broken.

Level your bloodtinge man.

sekiro has "posture", retards. and it fills pretty quick even if hes deflecting leaving him open to fatal attacks when his posture breaks

Are you fucking dumb? There's a giant armored brute in Sekiro weilding a greatsword that can keep up with him and you think that the CU wouldn't be able to do the same thing?

Chosen Undead dealt with ninjas before what are you talking about? Sekiro's strikes really aren't that fast aside from special moves. Besides Sekiro can't bypass simple wooden shields without using axe prosthetic. How is he going to deal with magical / metal ones?

I never said it would kill the hunter.
Just that the battle would end. The hunter would wake up and a battle would have never happened.

aren't sekiro's revives the only ones that are limited?
I doubt hed kill enough people via dragonrot to compensate for birth rates, but all the same.
Hunter's revives are based off of a contract with a cosmic being whos power/resources are unknown. CU is infinite so long as he wants to keep fighting

I take it back, Sekiro. That last fight was god tier.

>parries you from a range
>kills literal gods
>replaces the Moon Presence in the end
heh, nothin' personnel kid

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Okay moron...
It kills

>undead
>immortal Dragon blood
>spirits/ghost/etc.
>centipede shit

I think it fucking kills everything based on that. Even the hunter is fucked.

>Sekiro
>fastest protagonist
That's obviously BotC with binoculars

Wolf is incapable of piercing plate armor with his canon weapons

>goku vs superman thread

*snap*

yep

>the Hunter has better weapons
The hunter doesn't have a sword that can end immortality.

sekiro is the only one who can kill immortals and they are all immortal.

Magic alone puts Chosen Undead far above Sekiro, it would be like fighting one of those wizard ghosts, but in plate armor that makes the immune to all damage and with a shield and melee weapon, oh and they can parry you too and dodge your attacks. Shit is fucked.
Hunter vs Ashen Cuck is more reasonable, Sekiro really doesn't compare to those looney tunes.

this is pointless

strawpoll.com/7e3w92az

>kills literal gods

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John Bloodborne cause his coat looks cool

>swings twice
>stamina gon
>spam fat roll
yeah nah tank build CU would get bodied

The Mortal Blade doesn't kill beings who are truly immortal. It does absolutely nothing to the Divine Dragon in Sekiro after Wolf stabs it. It only seems to kill beings with "false" immortality, like Infested and Dragon Heritage Heirs. The Dragon itself is truly immortal and cannot die. So if this logic is to work for the other series, anything which is naturally immortal wouldn't be affected by the Mortal Blade.

Woah calm down, we're trying to keep this as a fair fight.

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since this is obviously a lore thread because the games have incompatible mechanics:

*learns how to stab you in the fucking eye holes and joints like IRL knights did to each other*

nothin personnel, gaijin

He doesnt have stamina when attacking or running though. None of the other protags could deal with the onslaught

>gael would destroy both hunter and wolf
>ashen one beat him
ashen takes this one

>shuriken you
>mist feathers behind you
>deathblows

Nothing personal chosen undead

I mean can Sekiro fight this?
youtu.be/oXp8Th41rBs

See

Also
>bound by the dream forever until his head is severed in the dream
He's unkillable.

It didn't do anything to the dragon because he didn't try to kill the dragon he only wanted its tears.

Killing the dragon itself was never his goal

>And Occult ain't magic. It's spiritual.
This may just be the furthest I've ever seen a person reach for a pointless argument
"Its not magic it's some other magic that's not magic trust me these are definitely the exact rules my dad works for from"

>OnlyAfro
Good lord, I completely forgot about him. His HE'S BACK video randomly got recommended to me back in 2013 and was weird enough to get me to buy the game, despite me having absolutely no idea what it was about or what Dark Souls even was.
All the games played and over 3,000 hours later, I thank him greatly.
Didn't he become a trap, or was that just a meme?

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I haven't read the thread but this poll has already pissed me off.

Who the FUCK wouldn't vote for Sekichad?

>LITERALLY immortal
>infinite stamina
>can jump and head bop you
>is fast as fuck
>can parry anything
>can literally teleport behind you nothing personal and one shot you then mind control your corpse
>has OP prosthetics

You're all fags.

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>level BT
Then you're mostly limited to Chikage, Bloodletter or Bowblade, all of which would be easily parried by Sekiro.

>Sekiro
>can't even hurt someone holding their sword out in front of them
>CU
>capable of damaging through people holding their sword out in front of them

Sekiro kills two gods in his game as well as ends countless immortal beings existences.

His intent means absolutely nothing. He stabbed the dragon in the face with the Mortal Blade and it didn't die. You can "intend" to stab someone with a knife without meaning to kill them, but that doesn't mean you aren't going to kill them. The Mortal Blade kills things that are infested and the game states this specifically through the entire story. He pierced the Dragon with it and it did nothing.
>muh intent
Irrelevant.

Wolf

>this kills the Sekicucks

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Different fighting styles dingus. Their whole fighting style focuses on taking advantage of the decisive moment, regardless of how big you are. Knights on the other hand and especially DS1 are about strafing and planning your next move strategically.

Break his poise (stamina)/Omae wa mou/backstab/repeat. Sekiro specializes in parrying, and unlike CU, can stop midstrike to parry.

Don't forget out of all these characters, DS1 is the most prone to backstabs. They're practically his only weakness, even in full havels.

haven't played Sekiro but could he take on the likes of amygdala or other lovecraft-esque beings?

NO one wanted to kill the dragon wtf you smoking? He took his arm.

>if you level one stat you are not fair to the sekiro guy
Literally just need 25 to do 350 per shot?
By the way how much HP does Sekiro have? Seems we're not playing fair here you want the CU and Hunter to play at a set limit but you want Sekiro to have the godkilling sword.

>Sekiro kills two gods
Infested aren't immortal and the only "god" he kills is a giant snake.

The answer is whichever one you're playing. The series has always been about determination. The only real game over being if you, the player, give up.

Sekiro didn't kill the Divine dragon. He just cut it's tear duct for some Divine tears. Kills the fuck out of the every other immortal being as well as a fuck huge snake regarded as a god with multiple hearts.

Anyone that thinks Sekiro stands even a remote chance against the bullshitery of Dark Souls characters hasn't even played the game. It would be like fighting this guy but with magic and a shield and a brain, and he would be able to dodge and parry your ass too.

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He stabbed it in the face you dumb ass, it doesn't matter what his intent is. He pierced the Dragon with the Mortal Blade and the Mortal Blade didn't kill said target.

He literally damages the dragon to get what he needs from it. If he had INTENDED to kill it he would have and could have.

The intent does matter you dumb fool.

It didn't kill Divine Dragon. Merely wounded it to get tears. The other stuff minus the centipede shit can be dealt with by anything. Heck even the centipede guys are only taken out when directly attacking the centipede with it.

Regardless killing undead and taking down a guy tied to another plane of existence who will always keep popping back up regardless of how many times he is slain so long as he is tied to it is very different

Yeah it can potentially "kill" him as any weapon could. Its just that it wouldn't keep him down for good

Either Sekiro wins or some arcane tool like Executioners Glove/Accursed Brew causes terror and Hunter wins

I'm fighting your interdimensional bullshit with more esoteric bullshit.
It's all fucking magic under different names.

The Hunter isn't even immortal, only Sekiro and Chosen Undead are. If either of them finds the hunter's sanctuary he can be wounded and killed just like Eileen the Crow. The Hunter is literally the weakest of the three, stop talking about him.

Absolute fucking moron.

Shuriken, the Axe, Piercing Dagger, Flame thrower, and Spear all have the ability to hurt such people.

Wolf isn't immortal either.

I think the simple fact that Sekiro has a blade that kills immortals is enough to make him the most powerful protag. But then you run into the nature of the Hunter's immortality and it doesn't tie into the traditional sense of immortality. He can die, yes, but his consciousness always remains and always comes back into physical form in the waking world unless his head is severed in the dream.

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He didn't use the mortal blade to make a killing blow its not like if he just touches something immortal with the blade it dies he has to CUT it in a killing blow which he did not do to the dragon.

The Hunter is immortal until he untethers himself from the dream. With that logic, Wolf and the Undead are just as immortal as the Hunter

The better questions is who would win between

Gwyn vs Gehrman vs Isshin

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Wolf

The only "god" he kills is the giant snake and that's more of a bigass monster and he had to get a huge jump on him. I am sure the people of Sekiro would consider the mini dragon boss from Dark Souls 3 a "god" and Ashen One killed that the exact same way Sekiro beat the snake.

He went on to kill another dragon and its lightning chucking rider head on later

Except he is so slow and lumbering that Gravity kills him. Also there isn't a single set of armor in all of DS or BB that is that packed to the 9s in plate that a player can use.

Yeah. I hate when people act like The Hunter was special for any of that shit, he just had the opportunity to. Sekiro can dash and sprint just like him, and can actually JUMP.

That alone puts him a cut above everyone else, and he could definitely do what they did if given the chance. Let's not even talk about the infinite stamina and grappling hook either.

I didn't play BB much but I know it's just a casual slighly faster Souls. Sekiro is much faster than the BB noodle man and he has much crazier combat abilities.

Mortal blade kills him, pussy.

Its between Gwyn and Isshin, Gehrman is just some old disabled subhuman.

That's because they either go around the block or do non-physical damage. The poison dagger is the only exception, I think, but that still isn't enough to damage the Armored Warrior.

>muh killing blow intent
This doesn't matter. He stabbed the Divine Dragon with the Mortal Blade, not Kusabimaru. When he stabs any infested with the Mortal Blade it instantly kills them. The Mortal Blade only kills fake immortals.

Both Gwyn and Gehrman are not in their prime during the final fight. Prime Isshin is also not a godlike entity akin to Gwyn and Gehrman - he's just a strong dude with some techniques. Gwyn is a literal god and Gehrman is very close to it.
So it's a toss-up. Prime Gwyn would probably smack them all. Prime Gehrman would probably smack Isshin. Old Isshin loses no matter what.

If you literally put them together in a room as they are, Gwyn would probably win. If we're talking lore-wise, then Gwyn again, he is a God where as Gherman and Isshin are just mortal humans.

>ITT my dad can beat up your dad souls edition

>Break his poise
>Kill strike
>Does nothing but CU has armor that makes Armored Warrior look like a joke
>Sekiro literally can't do anything to win unless they happen to be fighting at a high place
>CU has enough stats to also manage to quick roll and move quickly WHILE wearing that armor unlike Armored Warrior who was just a regular dude.

Isshin is piss shit compared to Gwyn and Gherman. Did you even play Bloodborne? Gherman is at least 5x stronger and faster than Isshin is and even has moon magic to back him up.

Rather than fight each other, what if they all teamed up?

He cut Kuro with the mortal blade and it didn't kill him either.
Guess what. You need to actually fucking Kill a immortal with the mortal blade to kill the immortal.
He just cuts the Tear duct on the dragon and Slits Kuro's Hand for the incense.
You can Perform Mortal Draw on common bitch enemies and it doesn't out right kill them.

But the Mortal Blade doesn't kill immortal beings. It can't kill Kuro - only wound him. Also, the Hunter isn't immortal in the same sense of the others. Their flesh is physically undying. The Hunter's body actually dies. He just reanimates from the Dream. So, yes, The Mortal Blade could probably kill him - a long fall could kill him - but his consciousness would return without fail

He's fast and strong enough to still be able to hit Sekiro, though that is based on the player's skill. There is nothing to suggest that his armor is anything special, and there are many sets in DaS that would provide much more protection. If Sekiro didn't fight him on the bridge, he would have been unbeatable.

Powerlevel autism is fun.
It's better than the shitty rank threads anyway.

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>moon magic

Kuro unironically nicked his finger with the mortal blade to get blood. And spoiler alert, Kuro dies in at least half of the endings in Sekiro because a Mortal Blade actually touched him.

It kills real immortals too.

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If Kuro CAN be killed with the Mortal Blade, then why did they need to go through a bunch of extra steps to allow it to happen?

>It can't kill Kuro
You know why one of the endings is called Immortal Severance, right?

> It can't kill Kuro - only wound him
You might want to play the game bud.

The Chosen Undead and Good Hunter are also vastly stronger than Sekiro. If he doesn't perfectly deflect every attack they can do, than he's fucked if he doesn't do hit and run shit.

He's a tranny. A fine example of why you you never let memes too deep into your head.

But why does he need a bunch of extra items to create incense when the Mortal Blade is all that was needed?
I beat the game chief

>has OP prosthetics
Their speed is slower than most heavy/ultra weapons hunter and undead have. Only shurikens and umbrella would work.
Sekiro beats hunter and CU with R1 spam and parries. Hunter and CU can make use of hyperarmor because sekiro doesn't have any though.
So full havel and sorcery CU definitely beats CU if sekiro can't parry everything, but a perfect parrying sekiro will just be unkillable

If the mortal blade killed by just touching you then kuro would have died when he cut himself to make the incense. It is a blade that allows you to harm and kill immortals.

It doesn't just cause them to die when it stabs into them or touches them.

>You can Perform Mortal Draw on common bitch enemies and it doesn't out right kill them.
Yeah that was dumb but both immortal blades clearly showed they can kill Kuro.

Really bad writing meant to pad out gameplay. The story is shit tier.

He didn't try and kill the dragon. He made a Surgical cut under the eye for some tears. He didn't brain or deal any lethal damage to the dragon.
The mortal blade kills those who first draw it. Afterwords it doesn't kill the wielder. A cut from the Mortal blade does not outright kill like some fast acting poison. Killing something with it will kill it forever.

If it did kill on a single cut Kuro would have died outright when you made the incense.

>No Slayer of Demons, Cursed Undead, Ashen One
Its because they have Second Chance, Tears of Denial isn't it?

Chosen Undead will eventually go Hollow.
Sekiro can only die twice.
So the Hunter, because he can revive infinitely without consequences.

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>Guess what. You need to actually fucking Kill a immortal with the mortal blade to kill the immortal.
Which is what I've been talking about the entire time, but you seem to not be understanding this. The mortal Blade is a weapon which instantly kills immortals that is pierces in every single scenario that it is used in.
>muh tear duct
He slammed the MB in the dragons face, the location isn't relevant. You keep acting like the Mortal Blade is a regular sword when it's a supernatural weapon that disintegrates anything that it touches.
>You can Perform Mortal Draw on common bitch enemies and it doesn't out right kill them.
Gameplay is not in universe lore. There's a disconnect between gameplay and lore in Sekiro. Dragonrot is the best example of this. Hell, deathblows are an even better example actually.

Okay what fucking set of armor are you talking about that you think makes him invincible.
If he's in full havels, he's not going to touch Sekiro, he's too slow, and Havels shield can't parry.
If he's in elite knights, he's faster, but not fast enough, and he can definitely be backstabbed for crit damage since it's much thinner and weaker than armored warrior on the basis that he can be backstabbed by claws and uchigatanas.

whats your next rebuttal?

>Only shurikens and umbrella would work.
And teleport jutsu among others especially since you can activate them in the air and Soulsfags take 20 years to reach you so the startup is a non-issue.

They are OP compared to Souls and probably BB. And Sekiro does have hyperarmor when you use some skills like axe.

Even just dodging Sekiro will shit on the others. Shuriken into slash is something that you couldn't deal with without Sekiro speed.

Who has the better waifu?

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>It doesn't just cause them to die when it stabs into them or touches them.
Tell that to Kuro. And I was specifically talking about full blown stab/piercing attacks you illiterate mongrel.

Seriously? The voices in his old videos were his own - did he go too deep and become a proper tranny?
I went on his Twitter and he's posting about eyeliner. How the mighty have fallen.

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>He made a Surgical cut under the eye
dude he KO'd the dragon with an ultra lightning beam and stabbed its eye, surgical my ass

rice loli obviously

>The mortal Blade is a weapon which instantly kills immortals that is pierces in every single scenario that it is used in

Kuro literally cuts his chest with the blade so he can bleed and he doesnt die. That clearly shows that it makes immortals vulnerable but doesnt outright kill them.. unless you make actual killing blow.

>tfw no Souls game with actual real literal jumping, and not that shitty Sprint jumping that barely even lifts you a meter high from the ground

I can't really decide between the souls waifus, but it would be one of them. Probably between SEEKSEEKLEST and ASHENONE

Sekiro can't even hurt the poorly armored big guy without removing his armor. What is he suppose to do against people that are properly armored?
Not to mention that the CU and Good Hunter would probably have a shit load of health.

Kuro isn't immortal. The game says that the dragon's heritage is corrupted since it's out of its element and doesn't function properly because it's "in the wrong place" Dragon's Heritage "immortality" functions by stealing life force from other things, the holder themselves isn't actually an immortal being.

>people keep mentioning armor and sekiro not doing shit
>lol okay
>sekiro takes out his flame canon

Enjoy the armor under intense fire faggot.

>sekiro simply stabs undead or ashen with mortal blade
>dead forever

>faggots think mortal blade doesn't affect the dream...
OK let's say it doesn't. Sekiro will simply go to the hunters sanctuary and fucking murder him. Wow... So hard

Maiden > Doll > Bonfire > Emma > Keeper > Herald if we're talking just assistants

Doll, easily.

Are you a brainlet? It would damage them meaning you could behead them. Normal blades don't do shit against him.

>A mortal blade touched him
How admirable of you to gloss over the details like they didn't matter.
Kuro gets mother fucking stabbed by a mortal blade in each of his deaths. Damage that would kill a person. Because he was simply touched by the blade does not kill him. He had to be run through to the point that it would fucking kill a person.
Guess what. A Cut under you Eye doesn't kill you. You bleed alot and it can heal if treated. Teh dragon didn't die because the Mortal blade didn't deal lethal damage. Sekiro wanted the tears and nothing else. Got what he wanted since he needed to actually harm the immortal dragon to do it and then fucked off.

It's more that Kuro has a better version of what Sekiro has and needs the dragon tears etc to basically "turn off" his revive.

Like Sekiro can get absolutely fucked by simple shit but he pops back up due to a bit of dragon blood Kuro bonded with him

Kuro is the prime source of the dragon blood hence why it takes shit like the Mortal Blade to actually harm / kill him (unlike Sekiro who can get fucked by a simple blade) but he will just pop back up like Sekiro does without the other ingredients / ritual

Then it would have killed the dragon if that were true huh? Good thing it didn't because he didn't intend to kill the dragon :^)

>infinite stamina
>shinobi tools
>mortal blade
Sekiro is the only one who can permakill the others

NOTHING Sekiro has does shit against the Armored Warrior

>Kuro literally cuts his chest with the blade
Was it his chest? Was it a full blown stab through the chest? Remember how Wolf instantly died when he pulled out the blade? the Mortal Blade is not a normal weapon, you dumb ass. It immediately kills things.

The same thing he does to said big guy. And that's a gimmick fight.

And let me say it again since you niggas cant read.
CHOSEN UNDEAD IS NOT IMMUNE TO CRITICALS/DEATHBLOWS. You can backstab Havels with fucking CLAWS and a generic uchigatana. Havels is nowhere near as impenetrable as the Armored Warrior.

Sekiro can't enter the Dream because he hasn't imbibed the blood

the chosen undead doesn't even wear armor on the level of Robert's dad. there are definitely weakpoints in the chosen undead's armor that sekiro could exploit during a deathblow.

Good taste

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>DaS1 man shows up in giant dad/Havel mom poise min max shit
>Sekiro shit cannot break posture because of his retarded poise
>Just steer clear of the cliff.
>All Sekiro man can do is run around reeeing because hes a shit fuck.

BB man might be able to kill both with his parry but Wolf would just deflect his shit. So its sorta like rock paper scissors. Unless we take away DaS1.

>Sekiro can jump
And shitty DaS1 hitboxes will knick his ass down.

Because simply killing Kuro doesn't sever immortality of the Dragon blood or what the fuck ever. You need the Dragon tears to end his specific line of immortality. To end Sekiro's immortality.

>Guess what. A Cut under you Eye doesn't kill you.
Is it a cut from a weapon that steals life from things that it touches? It also isn't a "cut" you keep saying this like it was a small incision. He stabbed the Dragon with the blade, he didn't slightly cut it.

This board really went downhill. It's like a youtube comment section.

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What's he suppose to do if the CU isn't stupid enough to go near a cliff?

No, because the Dragon's form is truly immortal. Read the memory description.

poise/hyperarmor =/= posture

sekiro just has to respect the hyperarmor and be less agressive, focusing more on parries, just like when fighting enemies with hyperarmor moves in the game.

>severs your immortality
pssh nothing personnel
really tho in-universe they can all respawn endlessly but only Sekiro is able to cancel out anyone else's spawning
even if CU/GH kill him 1000 times before Sekiro wins, all it takes is that one victory

>Sekiro does anything
>Gets actually parried and riposted and dies because he cannot take a hit for shit.

who would win threads were on Yea Forums day 1

>animeposter
Power level faggotry is fun and it's better than the infinite waifu threads or SJW whining that will pop up everywhere else
This and the DMC threads are the last havens for video game discussion on this board

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Considering Sekiro couldn't defeat the armoured knight in fair combat and only beat him by kicking him off the bridge, it's fair to say that a heavy armour Chosen Undead would absolutely and utterly rape him, especially if they have magic too.

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>Thinking Sekiro has a chance in hell against Giant Dad

Sekiro aint hurting that shit and if he gets hit even once he's dead

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>Kuro gets mother fucking stabbed by a mortal blade in each of his deaths
Yes and he's also not truly immortal, like I specifically stated earlier on. You are illiterate aren't you?

*teleports behind u*
You're already dead, kid.

Or maybe Sekiro's weapons are just shit against armored opponents like Robert's dad

>Sekiro will simply go to the hunters sanctuary and fucking murder him.
Hunter also doesn't die if he's killed in the dream. The only one that can perma-kill him is Gehrman, who's in charge of the dream. Wolf needs to kill Gehrman then replace him for that to happen.

Armored Knight is basically proof that Havel would fuck Sekiro if he tried to fuck with anyone in that shit nowhere near a ledge. He'd have to run and cower and they'd just ignore him.

Doesnt need to break his poise when he can just backstab him. Chosen undead isnt nearly as agile as the foes Sekiro faces. Fucker leaves his ass open to backstabs all the time.

Then he will...

>attacks
>does no damage
What now?

Bearer of the Curse from DS2.

Literally beat the curse by being a fucking tough as fuck Lion Knight who would not quit. Also he had the best style.

the mortal blades only work against certain types of "immortality", do they not? i hear kuro is completely immune. so there are different kinds of "immortality" and we know of at least two: the ones that can be severed by the mortal blades and kuros. we don't know where the chosen undead or the hunter lies in this, so we don't know if the mortal blade even is effective for them. it probably isn't.

Sekiro can jump and is used to fighting things that can keep track of what they mean to hit.

If we're gonna talk about non-canon shit, then the Hunter can just get the second Mortal Blade from Genichiro or some shit

A katana is a katana and I was being generous. Havel can be backstabbed with your fucking fists for minor damage. Hes not as invincible as you're giving him credit for. Unless you're about to tell me fists are sharper than a fucking katana.

havel has exposed armpits and massive slots in his helmet. that gives sekiro at least two options after posture breaking a havel monster.

>i hear kuro is completely immune.
He's not, he can get killed by them. The only truly divine beings in Sekiro are the Dragon and maybe the Divine girl.

Yeah, When they are used to deal lethal damage.
Simply cutting a mother fucker isn't lethal. Running a Blade through someones abdomin will certianly kill them. And guess what. That's where Kuro was hit. Stabbed in the fucking body with the sword. not some shallow bitch cut.
The mortal blade doesn't kill by simply touching something. It is a normal as fuck sword that when used to deal a blow that would be fatal to someone it would end there life. Even if that someone was immortal.
It's basically a normal fucking sword that works like a normal fucking sword but with the added bonus of actually killing immortal people instead of just mildly inconveniencing them.

In short. If you stabbed the chosen undead or the Hunter through the chest or decapitated them with the mortal blade. They ain't coming back at no lamp or bonfire. They're done.

Hunter uses something like Beast Cutter, a flail like weapon, that can't be deflected.

What's stopping Sekiro from playing dirty against the Chosen undead then. He's a fucking ninja, they aren't know for being honorable or being fair.

How is jumping supposed to help in a fight like this? Wouldn't jumping a lot just leave him vulnerable to arrows and magic and stuff?

Nah, they weren't. This isn't Yea Forums.
>actually attempting to justify this level of stupidity.
>DMC
>haven
Go clean your katana, fatso.

Emma could kick all of their asses, but Maiden in Black is still the best because she was my first.

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>then the Hunter can just get the second Mortal Blade from Genichiro or some shit
He absolutely can. Everything you could want and more is in the chalice dungeons.

dodge this, nigger

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the three >whos?

Its not happening because Yharnam might not even exist in the real world. It might actually be a dreamscape as well. The only real life yharnam is the yharnam sunrise ending yharnam, and all the buildings are not in the same place as the in-game one.
And lastly, finding yharnam doesn't mean finding the Hunter's Dream. How would he even get there?

if Sekiro can deflect a retard ogre swinging around a bell he can deflect a flail

Who ever can aim a ranged weapon the fastest and with the most accuracy.

Sekiro does shit damage and if undead just spammed magic would never give an opportunity to lose posture. Also has near infinite healing compared to the others

You do know the Chosen Undead is also much stronger than regular humans, right?

Doll > Firekeeper > Shanny > Emma > Maiden

Goku wins, etc.

Immortality is kind of a relative term in Sekiro. Like you got people harping on about shit like how the Super Treasure Karp is an immortal being and that thing gets fucked by some bad worms

>spams life gems
What now, faggots?

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I like Wolf as much as the next guy but it's really obvious that Hunter is the strongest as far as the lores go.
>Supernatural blood-infused hunter who fights literal monsters no big deal constantly, summons eldritch warp entities and shit
vs
>Quasi low-fantasy JP shinobi with a clever prosthetic arm
Wolf is a better fighter but that doesn't matter, the power scales of the two universes are way fucking different. Casual shitters in Bloodborne-verse would decimate Ashina castle like nothing

The Hunter, if they are a full Arcane build with tentacles. He would do Horror damage to Sekiro, who lacks the insight to understand the attacks.
Chosen Undead is deadlier than the Headless if he's packing TWOP.

People seem to be ignoring that Wolf has almost no defense or counters to magic attacks. He can't block or deflect fire, he can only deflect lightning by jumping and reflecting it, and he has no defenses against things like disease clouds or light/divine magic. Honestly he would get fucked by the others.

Kek.

>He can't block or deflect fire
play the game

What happens if Good Hunter drinks Sekiro blood? Does he get resurrection powers too?

To be fair for stuff like Horror and Poison he has gourds to defend against them

though I am pretty sure Bloodborne stuff is on an entirely different level than Sekiro's terror so if he was exposed to it he would jump to max bar almost instantly

Chosen undead cant lock onto moving foes with a bow and arrow, he would never catch him with one. Not to mention sekiro casually jumps through gunfire from all sides.
Chosen undead cant defend from overhead strikes, only those coming directly in front of him. And he cant roll out of the way in full havels.

Which fire specifically?

He still gets burn buildup through blocks

He can deflect terror beams which is fucking stupid but still, he can.

>burn build up even when parried
He's fucked.

they're all stronger than regular humans retard what even is your point.

not with the umbrella

The mortal blade is used to stab and kill the fucking centipedes out of enemies who are falsely immortal in every scenario that isn't the dragon. The dragon who's head is like 5x your fucking entire body gets a shallow fucking cut under his eye while stunned by lightning. You sure as fuck didn't deal any sort of lasting damage. The attack sure as fuck doesn't have to be a stab in general. It has to be an attack that would otherwise fucking kill someone. A fucking shallow cut under a dragons eye ain't gunna fucking kill it.

I'm fairly certain a crossbow would work just as well, but Sekiro could still deflect the normal bolts. Don't think he has an answer to spells or bolts/arrows with different effects, though

Sekiro does have the mortal blade, so he could probably permakill both the hunter and CU. But I feel like the hunter and Sekiro would have a hard time getting around something like Havels Greatshield.

With tools he can block and reflect magic and fire. They will run out eventually, but so will the hunter's magic. He can't attack quick out of it, though, so he'll have to turtle up under it while the others do whatever they like to either break the guard or something.

Sekiro terror is spooky ghosts and spirits and demons
Bloodborne frenzy is ancestral beings from before time who have inhabited other planets and planes of existence, and whose passing presence is enough to drive entire kingdoms insane

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Sekiro can't even hurt people through a wooden shield. He's a really strong man at most

Chosen has a lot more iframes too now that you mention rolling. Sekiro could win if he had infinite ninja stars but he doesn't

>chosen undead
>most powerful
>can take the most damage
>access to amazing spells
>thick ass armor
>large range of weapons "such as a spear to fuck sekiro with"

>good hunter
>is immortal through the dream
>has guns...
>hunters spells are fucking shit compared to CU
>worst armor

>sekiro
>fastest and most agile
>prosthetic arm is better than all of the hunters guns or "spells" but nowhere near chosen undead
>most experienced fighter of the 3
>has no armor
>able to revive mid combat
>stamina is no issue to a shinobi
>HAS A SWORD THAT KILLS IMMORTAL BEINGS

>He can't block or deflect fire
His Iron Umbrella can infinitely block terror and flames

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Dark magic would fucking wreck Sekiro. Dark bead would instantly break his posture.

goddamn play the fucking game

umbrella has a fireproof upgrade

At least has a burn buildup and only takes minor damage. CU taking any fire damage ever is like shooting a baby in the head. Sekiro would never get caught with those slow ass fireballs anyway, hes too fast.

With full Havel's, his poise/posture would be through the roof. With a shield, he's gonna be blocking attacks. Sekiro would have to fucking poison Havel to do anything to him.

There is nothing to suggest that his armor is anything special
Other than the fact that the only unarmored parts on his body are his fucking palm of his hands.
There isn't a single set of armor in any other Soulsborn game that that fucking stacked with plate or metal. The is an opening in the armor somewhere in the armor sets. Be it the neck. Under arm, back, Sides, or what have you. That guy has literally nowhere on his body that isn't armored to shit and back except for the palms of his fucking hands.
And other enemy Sekiro would fight wouldn't give him remotely as much trouble as that guy simply because there isn't a blade that could pierce that iron wall.

that's a pretty big assumption user

Lore wise, Sekiro would beats everyone through attrition. Hunter and CU can eventually go crazy from blood or hollowing. Sekiro isn't mentally or physically affected by dying at all only his friends will.

Wait a min how about this
>Sekiro befriend with Hunter and CU
>Sekiro fucks off and die a dozen time
>Hunter and CU now have dragonrot
oh shit

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>Has sword that kills immortal beings
>Gets cut by Genichiro using the other Mortal Blade and doesn't instantly die and can come back anyway
>Can't kill infested unless he specifically kills the centipede with it
>Doesn't even kill the dragon
>Can't kill Kuro for good with it unless he also has other shit to turn off his revive

>who is Black Iron Tarkus

Sekiro goes crazy by hearing a headless ape shriek
Hunter is only slightly phased by encountering elder gods

The old blood cures all diseases for the hunter

>sekiro uses feather
>behind target
>uses mortal blade
>1 hit kill with no revives

>shallow cut
You keep doing this, pretending as if he didn't stab it in the face, fullforce. You act like he slightly slashed it like he made an incision with a scalpel. You also seem to flip flop between how the mortal blade functions. You act like it's a normal weapon half the time yet you seem to be ignoring the fact that Wolf instantly died when he drew the blade from its sheath. It isn't normal, and it's shown in game, countless times, that it kills the things that pierces instantly.
>durr he only stabs the centipedes!
He stabs the monks at Senpou temple with it, and not the centipedes, yet the same effect occurs. Instant death.

Maybe you should actually pay attention to the game next time you play it.

>Is it a cut from a weapon that steals life from things that it touches?
The mortal blade doesn't do that. It just severs a immortals connection to whatever the fuck brings them back to life if they are killed with the thing.
The dragon got a what is equal to paper cut under his eye. That won't kill a dragon.

>fireproof umbrella
You mean the thing that eats spirit emblems? I meant combat blocks, like with the blocks and parries.

That's because they're thick great shields and have infinite stamina.
He cant roll in full havels.

The blood doesn't cause people to go crazy. There are many retired NPCs in Bloodborne who stopped respawning, by choice.

The CU will have to stop eating humanities to go hollow. He has a time hole in the forbidden woods where he can visit Oolacile and get an infinite supply.

>Sekiro fags acting like he has a chance against Hunter or CU when he got rekt by some random samurai and comparatively simpler enemies and effects compared to the shit CU and Hunter deal with on the regular

Wolf is probably the pussiest one there in regards to sanity. A monkey howling scares him to the point of instant death.

Not him but you are a fucking retard. He stabs it in the tear duct to retrieve it's tears

He would get backstabbed to hell and back dude. Havels is heavy as fuck and kills mobility.

He stunned a dragon that makes fucking lightning with lightning and made a cut that is super fucking Shallow in comparison to the mear size of the dragon.
Also it was under it's eye. He didn't stab the fucking thing in the eye.
Ever get or see someone with a fucking fish hook in their eye lid? It's the same shit.

You need to kill with the mortal blade retard. A slice isn't going to do it.

>The dragon got a what is equal to paper cut under his eye.
You keep lying about this but the game disproves your retarded argument 100% of the time
>The mortal blade doesn't do that. It just severs a immortals connection to whatever the fuck brings them back to life
Senpou temple monks say hi. Now do you have any more retarded arguments for me?

They're regular fucks with crappy wooden shields. Even the wooden greatshields in DaS can be damaged through

>random samurai
Oh, are you talking about pic related?

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The armored warrior has literally no unarmored parts. He is basicly in a weilded shut suit of plate mail.
There is no such fucking armor in existance that matches that description let alone in DS1-3 or BB.
There is always some opening.
How that huge fuck managed to get into that damn thing is a fucking mystery.

>he stabs it
Yes, with the Mortal Blade. Try again, retard.

1). The Dragon is not that big. It's long and big, but the Great Snakes look longer, and they also seem physically larger.
2)He did not make a "shallow cut" with it. He jams the Mortal Blade into it completely.
You can fuck off now.

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Smough's armor have metal on literally every part of his body. They're so thick that Kusabimaru wouldn't be able to penetrate through at all.

Mortal Blade can physically injure and "kill" Kuro but he'll just pop back up like Sekiro does without the tears. That's the impression I got

Mortal Blade seems to deal with more low tier "immortality" like the infested. I mean Sekiro himself drew it, died, and popped back up. Same when he is hit with the other Mortal Blade. Its just Sekiro's immortality is tied to the Divine Dragon which is like the big dick real shit "immortality" in Sekiro's world

Hell they even call the Divine Karp immortal and that fucking thing dies from a bad feeding

>Ever get or see someone with a fucking fish hook in their eye lid? It's the same shit.
He isn't using his regular Katana her, you fucking idiot. See . You can even see that the Mortal Blade is clearly trying to kill the dragon because the red death mist effect happens when he uses it against it.

look at the angle of the blade, even though the entire length of it is in the dragon its still a shallow cut

Nothing Sekiro has does shit against the crappily armored fat guy unless he strips the armor off or goes for a deathblow. The CU is actually fully armored and would have a lot more posture and health.

Retard. Either you're an actual retard or you don't know what the term "shallow" means. The angle of the blade would also be irrelevant in regards to how shallow something is. He isn't even cutting the dragon, like a surgeon cuts a corpse. He's stabbing it. You are an actual fucking moron, I hope you know this.

Sekiro could win with the fucking Leaf fan.
Just turn the chosen undead around and stab him in the back. Repeat if he for some reason doesn't die from the first attack.

Everyone is harping on about the armor (which DS has sets in spades) and not even taking into account the possibility that they'd also be sporting shit like a tower shield or long spear on top of that

Don't even know why you'd bother to mention the Heir. Wolf beats Hunter in the physical world, but the Hunter doesn't exist in the physical world unless he does that specific ending, so Hunter takes Pawn. Choose your poison.

Or simply Turn him around with the fan.

Wolf can't harm armored opponents. He can't even fight enemies that have wooden shields. He also needs spirit emblems to use his tools and ninjutsu and combat arts and he can only hold around 20.

You can hold the umbrella out indefinitely for a single Spirit emblem.

Didn't mean to quote.

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Because we don't even need to mention those if Sekiro can't hurt the CU in the first place

he stabs it so it doesn't go deep into the dragon's body, the entire blade goes in but its like a foot deep into his skin tops

Would Sekiro even be able to deal with some of the Souls bosses?

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Does it protect against attacks from behind and below? I've never used it.

You stabbed it under it's fucking Eye. I would understand if it was the tempal or the Forhead or somehow cut the motherfuckers head off but the length of the mortal blade isn't even remotely long enough to stab all the way through the dragon's eye and you sure as fuck Cut it under the fucking thing.
In comparison to his size that is a small fuck that wouldn't kill it. At the absolute best the dragon is Blind in one eye somehow even though you never stabbed it in the eye.

Wolf and Hunter would destroy any Dark Souls boss. None of the Souls Protagonists compare to them.

Sekiro has firecrackers and fan to go through shield. If Sekiro doesn't have either of those then CU would definitely wins
>Sekiro hits shield and bounce sword off
>CU counter stab for big dick dmg
Sekiro can do literally nothing

Behind, yes, but not below.

You need to go back to your English classes you ESL retard. You got BTFO with proof in the game that he isn't making a "slight incision" like you keep memeing.

There isn't a single attack in the game that goes through your umbrella except for grabs

How would Sekiro deal with Gael or Midir?

>You stabbed it under it's fucking Eye
With a demonic blade that kills fake immortals. You can even see it trying to kill the Dragon after the dragon gets stabbed. Pay attention to the mist. Dumb ass. The Mortal Blade is not a regular weapon. You seem to like ignoring this for some reason. You still blatantly ignore the fact that it instantly killed Wolf the minute he pulled it from the sheathe it was in.

Why the hell wouldn't he be able to?

And sweeps

Heavy attacks will do posture damage, and it depends on what umbrella is being used for the elemental effects. He also has no defense against arcane magic and divine magic or poison magic.

he can dodge and r1
he can do souls just fine.

Not true, actually. The description of the umbrella states that it does not protect against sweeps, but it's actually vulnerable to any low attack. For example, the basic thieves in the Hirata Estate can actually get you out of shield mode by kicking mud in your face.

Wrong. It's an umbrella.

Literally just check the VS Battles wiki. They keep track of feats and compare characters to others. Wolf doesn't have a page yet but I'm sure he doesn't compete to the literal star level Chosen Undead and Hunter.

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take my shitty drawing I slapped together in a minute
the sword doesn't go very far in relative to the dragon's head's width

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>Yes, with the Mortal Blade. Try again, retard.
Are you trying to argue that simply stabbing something with the mortal blade causes everything to fucking die?
Are you that retarded?
In ever instance that you do that besides the dragon you Drag out a Centipede. The thing giving the false immortals their immortality.

The reason Kuro dies to the mortal blade isn't because he was simply stabbed with it. If he was decapitated with the fucking Mortal blade it would do the same damn thing.

The only requirement to kill a immortal is to deal the type of damage that would kill something, like cutting them in half, Cutting thier head off. Cleaving the body in half or "Stabbing" them in the vitals, but with the mortal blade. The fact it is a stab has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with it other than a stab is a pretty easy way to attack someone's Vital organs such as their heart or brain.

The description for the fucking mortal blade is something along the lines of it having the ability to cut down immortals. Nothing specifically about stabbing that you seem obsessed with.

Anyone have some good Sekiro OC?

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By killing them. The problem here is speed. There are people who have no-rolling, no-emotes, no-damaged those bosses. There is no conflict here. Midir can be killed with throwing knifes, and Gael is still fleshy. Dark Souls and Bloodborne and Sekiro are not even close to them same power level.

>width
So you are a moron? Because width has absolutely no bearing on depth. You can fuck off now, seriously.

Yeah, Dark Souls and Bloodborne are much, much higher.

>In ever instance that you do that besides the dragon you Drag out a Centipede.
Senpou Temple monks. Argument destroyed.

>just check the VS Battles wiki

Nice joke.

t. moron

>width has nothing to do with depth
and you're calling me stupid? if something's head is 5 feet wide and it gets stabbed 1 foot deep then its a shallow wound

>Cleaving the body in half or "Stabbing" them in the vitals, but with the mortal blade. The fact it is a stab has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with it other than a stab is a pretty easy way to attack someone's Vital organs such as their heart or brain.
So why does Hanbei just die when Wolf pokes the centipede in him with the Mortal Blade?

Explain to me why that's bad. I'm legitimately curious. Is their math off or something?

Shallowness has nothing to do with width you fucking retards It's deepness, not how wide something is. You have no right to call anyone else stupid when you can even open a dictionary.

>Yeah, Dark Souls
Not even in your dreams, guy. Literally not even close. Mechanic-wise, Heir has nothing on the Wolf or Hunter. The only character here that could theoretically die forever and not stay dead is the Hunter because his resurrection isn't tied to himself.

You unironically need to have your entire family killed for unironically thinking the mortal blade immediately turns everything into ashes if you get nicked you are immediately dead

Kill yourself to save them

Lets be frank, CU and Hunter are just on another playing field than Sekiro is lore wise

Sekiro is just a standard ninja with a neat prosthetic and a cool sword. Most of the shit that he deals with is pretty low tier and the stuff that may actually pass as something of notice / early game stuff in the other worlds (like Demon of Hatred) kick the absolute shit out of him and are secret boss / endgame material for Sekiro.

I mean something like Cleric Beast would most likely rock Sekiro and that's just the first boss

The Mortal Blade isn't the best argument with how much people are harping about it. If it was THAT good then why doesn't he just one shot everything with it with a single hit both gameplay and lore wise? It doesn't work that way. He most likely gets hit by Genichiro's / Isshin's Mortal Blade and that doesn't put him down.

Also unlike Sekiro, Hunter and Chosen Undead get ULTRA powerful through blood and souls. That alone puts them far beyond the standard shmoes Sekiro deals with. I mean CU is casually duking it out with knights who went up against fucking dragons and wyverns on the regular.

If this is a question of lore then Sekiro is bottom tier objectively. Heck even from a gameplay standpoint. Like yeah I can see him managing to speed run through Anor Londo, but dude is going to get fucking annihilated by Biggie and Smalls

>sweeps
man it's so bullshit that such attack exist, how the fuck does dragging your sword low makes it unblockable anyway
If Sekiro can somehow do sweeps attacks against hunter or CU he'd be unbeatable
>can't block
>can't dodge
>no moonrune on your head telling you that you're gonna get fucked

t. still a moron

Nobody said it was a regular blade dipshit.
The dragon would not have bled if it was cut with a normal blade. Sekiro only wanted the tears so he made a cut with the Mortal blade to get them.
Stabbing a motherfucker with the mortal blade doesn't outright kill a immortal. Dealing lethal damage with the mortal blade does. Outside of the ability to kill immortals with any attack that would otherwise kill a person and killing whoever draws it from it's sheath the first time, It's a normal fucking sword.

ok I'll make this simple as possible
if something goes 15% through something's width it is a relatively shallow penetration
if something goes 60% through something's width it is a relatively deep penetration
I'm done responding to your dumb ass

>Sekiro guy can only die twice before facing serious consequences
>Undead guy and Hunter can rez and fight again however many times they want

Hunter and Undead gang bang sekiro until he commits sepuku because he doesn't want dragon rot to fuck up his realm anymore. Hunter and Undead fight for eternity

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>He most likely gets hit by Genichiro's / Isshin's Mortal Blade and that doesn't put him down
Nope, we know this is not the cases kill yourself.

He gets his fucking arm slashed off by the same guy, if he got damaged you would see it.

>In ever instance that you do that besides the dragon you Drag out a Centipede. The thing giving the false immortals their immortality.
Proven wrong
>The reason Kuro dies to the mortal blade isn't because he was simply stabbed with it. If he was decapitated with the fucking Mortal blade it would do the same damn thing.
Kuro gets slashed by it and dies, and the cut clearly wasn't deep because his entrails were still in his body, and the game has no issue showing guts since this is what happens to the Senpou Temple monks.
>The only requirement to kill a immortal is to deal the type of damage that would kill something
Nice headcanon, but you still ignored that the Mortal Blade isn't a regular weapons and Wolf died when he pulled it out for the first time, and its red mist death effects appeared when the Dragon got stabbed.
>The description for the fucking mortal blade is something along the lines of it having the ability to cut down immortals
No, it says "An odachi capable of slaying the undying. Its crimson blade will take the life of any who dares draw it.". Infested and undying are interchangeable terms in Sekiro and Hanbei even mentions this the first time Wolf talks to him.

Any more retardation for me?

>Undead guy and Hunter can rez and fight again however many times they want
Only the Hunter can do that. It's the Dream bringing him back. Lore-wise, the Undead cannot die forever.

>You keep lying about this but the game disproves your retarded argument 100% of the time
What lie? You stab the whole Mortal blade into the dragon and you barely reach like Halfway under his eyeball because of the size of the dragon. The sword doesn't sap life. Just severs immortality on a death blow not the fucking mechanic a attack that would kill someone The sword was needed to make the dragon bleed so he could get the tears for Kuro.
Mearly stabbling the dragon under the eye didn't kill it. The Sword doesn't outright kill it plunged into something. Only reason Kuro died is because his vitals were struck by the second mortal blade. Not because he was simply stabbed by it.

>muh intent
This got BTFO a while ago.

Sekiro himself doesn't get any negative effects other than his face getting slowly more fucked up, its just his friends that pay the price

The Good Hunter is a great one, Chosen Undead is a cuck (Ashen One is probably the most OP being by the end of DaS3 DLC though), and Sekiro has the blood of (I suspect) a great one

I'd say Good Hunter wins

how so?

>width
Again, you keep mentioning this shit. Are you actually ESL? Width is how wide something is, not deep. Width is irrelevant in regards to shallowness. Shallowness is how deep something is, not wide. Do you not know how to use a dictionary?

>You still blatantly ignore the fact that it instantly killed Wolf the minute he pulled it from the sheathe it was in.
It’s pretty clear that this is a “lock” of sort. You’re arguing that because Caliburn is pulled from the stone, it’s ability is to get stuck in things.

>went from saying it was a tiny incision to saying it was a stab but not really a stab because it barely went into the eye
How many times are you going to change your argument?

How does a world filled with normal people compare to the likes of Dark Souls or Bloodborne?

Nigger all you’ve done is spam your shitty headcanon

>ignores the item description and the death mist
>Calls anyone else retarded
How fucking ironic.

uhm no this lake isn't 100 feet deep because it goes straight down, its 100 feet heighth
this is what you sound like

I always thought of hollowing as the player giving up. As long as the player is willing, the undead will not lose his mind. He will fight on

If he was using a regular katana then the dragon wouldn't have bled at all.
The mortal blade deals lethal damage to immortals when normal blade are at best mild inconveniences to immortals.
Simply cutting a immortal with the mortal blade won't kill them. It will wound them. You need to still make the effort of killing them with the blade. Doesn't matter how you kill them with the blade. Be it stabs or cuts. The mortal blade treats immortals like they are mortal and nothing else.

But he can't parry cannon balls, double retard.

>headcanon
I'm using in game descriptions and dialogue to make my arguments, the only one with the headcanon here is the idiot trying to say that intent matters when stabbing something with a glowing red demon sword or that a full blown stab is actually a tiny skin level incision.

>If he was using a regular katana then the dragon wouldn't have bled at all.
The point wasn't to make the dragon bleed.

You aren’t doing shit biit spamming your garbage headcanon

You literally don’t have a singular fucking argument and have been backpedaling since you have no rebuttal to why Kuro didn’t immediately die

You are the most braindead coclsucking dipshit I’ve seen in quite some time. Kill yourself, but kill your two dads first. Make sure to go for vitals too, because nicking them won’t magically make them die.

It never changed. I just reworded the same fucking thing. Bottom line is that cut with the mortal blade wasn't remotely lethal. It's entire purpose was to draw blood from the Dragon's Tear duct. If he wanted to kill the dragon he could have just fucking Stabbed him in the brain or run the mortal blade down his throat. He sure as shit had enough time to make a cut under his eye for some bloody tears.

Bottom line is the mortal blade didn't kill the dragon when he used it to cut open it's tear duct.

>run out of stamina at all
>deathblow with a weapon that disables all forms of immortality and rebirth
>meanwhile sekiro has infinite stamina
sekiro feels like he was designed specifically to fuck over all the other protags in a fight

you could put an entire toothpick into your arm and it still wouldn't go deep depending on the angle you put it in
I don't care what your dictionary says, that's basic trigonometry

>implying Sekiro would do shit against metal shields

>How does a world filled with unrealistic normal people compare to the likes of Dark Souls or Bloodborne?
Gee, I dunno. The starting Dark Souls starts are suppose to be closely representative of a peak human according to the developers, but even I don't need over twice peak human strength to lift a sword, the Zweihänder, which at the length of a man never weighed more than 7.1 pounds.
By that merit, at least in-game mechanic-wise, neither the Hunter or the Chosen Undeads can beat each other. Lore-wise, I still say the Hunter is the strongest because him coming back is tied to the Dream.

>starts
stats*

>Nothing Sekiro has does shit against the crappily armored fat guy unless he strips the armor off
I didn't even find out I needed the fucking spear for that guy. I straight up Stealth killed him. I didn't even get a fucking name out of the guy because he was such an after thought.
You would think they would have more enemies that could be made trivial with the spear instead of that one boss that was entirely forgettable.

Last time I checked pits are a very common thing in Soulsborne games.
And he couldn't deal with that armored warrior simply because he is the only Soulsborne enemy in the entire fucking series to be completely covered in head to toe in platemail. All other heavily armored foes in other Soulsborne games had some opening in thier armor. Be it the arm pit. Neck, Underside or straight up the back. This guy is the first completely armored guy in all soulsborn.

>You aren’t doing shit biit spamming your garbage headcanon
The games item descriptions and dialogue is headcanon now? How low is your IQ?

The Zweihander in DaS weighs 10 units, so they're probably heavier than real zweihanders. 24 strength is needed to one hand it. You only need 32 strength to one hand the great axe, which is just a mass of metal attached to a stick. The world of Dark Souls is also filled with civilizations of "normal" people that would be freakishly strong by our standards.

>It never changed. I just reworded the same fucking thing. Bottom line is that cut with the mortal blade wasn't remotely lethal.
Again with this intent argument when this doesn't matter with the Mortal Blade. And you say i'm bringing up headcanon? He didn't even go to the Dragon to get its blood you fucking spastic retard.

Wolf can't harm absurdly armored opponents. Good thing there isn't 1 absurdly armored set of armor in a soulsborne all of them have a opening somewhere in the set.

>doesn't matter with the Mortal Blade
Nice headcanon brainless dipshit

Sekiro can just piss easy parry all of CU's attacks and death blow him.
I mean fuck. CU and Hunter both stumble on a single parry so they are proper fucked.

I know. I have already said speed is the better merit to do this by because none of these strength feats mean anything. It's moot, anyways. The Hunter literally cannot die unless the Dream ends. Lore-wise for the Heir, they would either give up or the world would die first.

Try parrying a blunderbuss or flamethrower. Also, the Chosen Undead is tankier than the other two. Sekiro and CU can be frenzied though. Also, the shuriken prosth operates the same manner the throwing knives do in Dark Souls essentially
The bosses also have infinite stamina and several Soulsborne bosses revive during their ights. Nothing new.
The Hunter has killed lesser Great Ones and the CU eats shit like that for breakfast.>strawpoll.com/7e3w92az
>Poison daggers you
>Darkwood grain rings behind you
>repeatedly fishes for backstabs
Pssh, nothin personell

You'd have a point if the CU made any attempt to attack those weak points, but he just slashes through the armor. Same for Sekiro when he isn't delivering death blows. Sekiro can't do anything against even the shittly armored guys unless he removes their armor or breaks their posture, and their armor is only on their stomach.

You're really dumb lol
The mortal blade doesn't OHKO anyone it touches;

Kuro cuts himself on the chest to provide blood for the incense.
Stabbing the Divine Dragon shows a "Gracious Gift of Tears", not an Immortality Severed. The dragon didn't even give a shit, you just barely scratched it.

he goes to the dragon intending just to take its tears and not mortally wound it
post the dialogue or item description that states that simple contact with the mortal blade kills immortals or you're just spouting bullshit

>CU eats shit like that for breakfast.
CU dies if he falls 12 feet.

>If either of them finds the hunter's sanctuary
And how are they gonna do that when it's in another plane of existence you mouth breathing dumb ass

The Mortal Blade can't kill the Divine Dragon you dipshit retard. The game even says that it only works on the infested. Not only that, but pic related.

>An odachi capable of slaying the undying. Its crimson blade will take the life of any who dares draw it. Without the power of Resurrection, one could not hope to wield this weapon, which allows one to defeat even infested beings. Long concealed within Senpou Temple, the blade is inscribed with its true name: “Gracious Gift of Tears.”

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DaS1 is the slowest game, true. I just don't think Sekiro would be able to do anything against the CU due to the armor and the CU's health.

Smell some incense

Chosen only goes hollow when the player gives up on the game. Same with the Hunter succumbing to beasthood or Sekiro forsaking his mission. Failure is only when quit.

>Kuro cuts himself on the chest
Was it the chest?

CU has access to a BOW and ARROW, meaning he has actual range
Did you even play Bloodborne or are you just deep-throating the release of the month?

still can't post proof that contact with the blade kills immortals tho

>that it only works on the infested
>even the infested

LMAAAAAOOOOO

Imagine being THIS fucking braindead.

Fair enough!

>which allows one to defeat even infested beings
You are aware that Undying and Infested are the same thing in Sekiro, right? How shitty is your English?

So uh, where does it say that it only works on the infested and why does it clearly work at killing Kuro who isn’t infested, and why are you still here trying to force your fucking retarded headcanon

He says so. Wolf closes his eyes because Kuro says to, and he indicates in dialogue that he made a shallow cut on his chest to provide the blood for the divine incense, using the mortal blade, as that is the only blade that can cause Kuro to bleed (also probably true for the Divine Dargoon).

Anyone who says anything other than Chosen Undead forgets how cheesy Chosen Undead can become. Assuming all protagonists have access to everything in their respective games, CU would stomp

Full Havels plus Wolf Ring not only massively reduces the damage that CU takes, it makes his attacks pretty much unstoppable as well. If we suppose that poise more or less equates to posture, it would make is almost impossible for Sekiro to land a deathblow on CU

Tranquil Walk of Peace nullifies the movement speed advantage and dodge of Sekiro and Hunter. This isn't a projectile attack, it a AOE effect, so Umbrella Prosthetic couldn't stop it

Of course, Sekiro and Hunter could just stay outside the range of TWoP and attack from range, but Strong Magic Shield would nullify their attacks

Dark Bead deals absurd damage and would likely oneshot the Hunter, who with his quicksteps taken away by TWoP would be defenseless against Dark Bead spam. Wolf can block Dark Bead with his Umbrella Prosthetic, but all CU would need to get past the Umbrella is walk up to Sekiro and heavy attack. If Sekiro tries to put down the Umbrella, just spam Dark Bead until Sekiro dies. Dark Bead would be impossible for Sekiro to block, since there are so many projectiles

Of course, none of the above matters, because Sekiro is literally incapable of dealing damage to dudes in heavy armor anyway. Just because the CU can backstab someone wearing Havel's doesn't mean Sekiro could. CU is superhumanly strong, able to wield ridiculous shit like the Stone Greataxe and Smough's hammer. Sekiro can't even break through a shitty wooden shield without help from the axe prosthetic. Unless there's a cliff nearby he'd be completely useless against CU wearing Havel's

TL;DR Nothing Hunter or Sekiro have could beat magic + heavy armor

The opening cinematic has a guy crawl up on a fully armored Samurai and waste him. I just decimated a guy on horseback completely covered in armor as well, so why can’t a piercing weapon made to pierce through armor pierce armor?

Are you forgetting about Smough?

In any case, things get dicey when you try to throw in gameplay mechanics but we know lore wise that Sekiro is not on the same playing field as his competition who casually go up against shit far above his level

The Mortal Blade shit is weird because if its capable of this shit why does he not use that alone and instantly kill any mini boss / regular boss at the first death blow?

Both CU and Hunter can easily parry him in turn and unlike Sekiro THEIR parrys INSTANTLY put him in the "kill me" state while Sekiro has to build it up and can take damage while trying to do it. Hunter and CU have a far easier time of fucking Sekiro over

Besides CU faced enemies way faster with physical attacks than Sekiro's strikes excluding special moves and those can be blocked / dodged

I never said it killed immortal beings, that was what I was arguing against from the very beginning you fucking illiterate nigger.

Even you can manage to breathe, only you can breathe right? Holy fuck kill yourself

Is there any difference between the Crimson Mortal Blade and the Black Mortal Blade?

one's red

Clearly samurai armor in Sekiro is just really, really shit

Kuro has "false immortality" because of the Dragon's heritage corruption. No one other than the Dragon itself is actually immortal The little girl even mentions how the dragon blood is just corrupted because it is where it shouldn't be and needs to go back to its home-place.

only the monks and monkey are infested
there are 3 types of immortality in Sekiro, dragon blood, false dragon blood, and infestation, mortal blade works on all of them

>Intent
Who the fuck said anything about intent dipshit?
If the Mortal blade fucking Decaps a immortal and you didn't intended to do that. Guess what. Immortal is fucking dead.
The Mortal Blade treats immortals like Mortals. In other words using it to kill the immortal will kill them. Whether your attack was intended to or not doesn't matter.
A normal blade Treats immortals like immortals. In other words a normal blade can't kill a immortal no matter how much you want it too.
Cut a immortal in half with a normal blade. Guy isn't dead.
Cut a immortal in half with a Mortal blade. Fucker is dead
Slit the wrist of a immortal with a normal blade. Nothing happens
Slit the wrist of a immortal with the Mortal Blade. The due is bleeding all over the place.
Intent has nothing to do with it.

In dark souls I kept trying to jump onto the tower in firelink shrine, I didn't realise you were meant to roll.

Except none of the bosses can be deathblow'd

then why did you start arguing with me when I was agreeing with you....

>being this assmad that now you're just arguing about sematics in a video game
Stay seething, dumb fuck.

>Hunter uses any of his eldritch arcanes or weapons
>Sekiro succumbs to terror and instantly dies
>repeat as necessary
>Both the hunter and CU can parry into instant KOs, Sekiro has to break posture before he can land his critical hits
>Hunter can do this from a distance
>Katanas in the Sekiro universe can't even damage normal plate armour let alone the mystical shit in DaS universe
>Sekiro can block many attacks but certain heavy attacks will break his guard
Why is this even a contest?

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What about the memory sections in Sekiro?

So where does it say it only works on infested you braindead subhuman

Where? No one gives a single fuck about your garbage headcanon, show me where it says it only works on infested, which you just unironically argued.

The Senpou Temple monks have Centipedes in them. As seen by the ones that have literal fucking Centipedes coming out of them.
Argument still completely intact
Try again.

Chosen undead
>Becomes dark lord, New Pyre, or leaves
Wolf
>Either dies, lives as a hermit, or bangs hot Japan chick
>Hunter
>Either wakes up in the real world, becomes lord of the dream, or becomes a good

Hunter wins

because Sekiro niggers think their game is the most difficult so their character must be the most powerful

also they're weebs

Sekirofags being stupid and clinging to Mortal Blade argument

Sekiro is just a shitty DEX build

Who would win?

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Sekiro kills an armored warrior in his game, and Hunter has guns which punch through armor

>Tranquil Walk of Peace
>Dark Bead

GG no re

>only the monks and monkey are infested
Hanbei is also infested. So is the Corrupted Monk (has nothing to do with Senpou Temple)

It's the most difficult because Sekiro is the weakest protagonist by far.
>Sekiro kills an armored warrior
You mean knocks him off a convenient bridge because he literally couldn't do anything against him?

Niohman has a litteral stando power

I’m not arguing, I’m mocking you for your failure to grasp basic English language.

Even you should understand that right?

Because the Centipede is whats giving most of the people their false Immortality. Sekiro killed the centipede with the mortal blade and that ended Hanbei's Immortality. Most of the immortal's in the game are just corpses Jockey-d by Centipedes.

Unironically I think Sekiro is connected to bloodborne and the immortal dragon is an old god. It uses it's blood to give immortality similar to bloodborne

Wolf does not kill the centipedes in the monks from the monks on Senpou temple, he stabs the monks with the mortal blade, not the centipedes.

*Throws sloth talisman*
*Iais you then ground stabs you*
*Loots your immortal blade from your temporary corpse then kills you for good*

He kills an armored warrior by knocking the warrior off a cliff, his shitty jap weapons do nothing to the glorious western steel

And like I said, Strong Magic Shield completely negates attacks. All CU has to do to stop the Hunter is cast it and raise his shield

Sekiro actually isn't capable of killing an armored warrior in his game using any of his weapons, and has to push him off a cliff to kill him.

Cope more, nigger. The Dragon can't die. Maybe you should actually play the game instead of arguing like fucking morons.

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I just think that when fromsoft realized through Bloodbourne that they could just explain why certain things are powerful because "muh blood" they just imposed that into their other games

William

He has multiple spirits backing him up, Can use more weapons, fought stronger enemies (including fuck tons of yokai and big deal gods / monsters), and is generally more effective.

Mother fucker even went toe to toe with Super Nobunaga and unlike Sekiro, he can actually handle more than one boss at the same time.

With everything from their games equipped and fully utilized:
>Chosen Undead
With only what they have at the very beginning, assuming CU is a knight:
>Sekiro
With only roughly half of what they have available in the game for them:
>Hunter

Base kit:
>Sekiro, Hunter > CU
Endgame Scaling:
>CU > Hunter > Sekiro

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Sekiro

Base Kit Wolf has nothing but a katana.

So where does it say it only works on the infested? And why did you use that as an argument.

>Went toe-to-toe
It is made clear that Nobunaga was just toying with William and could easily kill him

Guys we're almost 500 posts in and I still don't know if the Mortal Blade killed the divine dragon, or if the divine dragon just got a flesh wound under the eye.

New thread?

Also does anyone remember that you can upgrade Armor in Dark Souls 1? Its so busted they stopped doing this in future games.

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What is that image suppose to be?

Wirriam is literally invincible when using Living Weapon and is fast enough to deal with Sekiro. He wins easily

I think that all the unnatural beings are old God's. Especially the dragon, it doesn't even come from Japan.

Even has a similar bug infestation to that one part of bloodborne.

>Proven wrong
Yet neglect to say how. No so.
>Kuro gets slashed by it and dies,
He got stabbed in the lung. and he gave a short demand to you and fell over dead. He was dying of bloodloss and a punctured lung brought on by being mortally wounded by the second Mortal blade. a blade that treats immortals like Mortals.
>Nice headcanon,
Not headcanon. The mortal blade treats immortals as if they weren't So any damage received by the mortal blade is treated as actual damage. It's literally proven by it's mere ability to make Kuro bleed when nothing else can.
>Any more retardation for me?
For you? No. Never started. From you? Most definitely since you seemed to have no fucking idea how the mortal blade works.

You could upgrade armor in DaS2, couldn't you? They got rid of armor upgrading in Bloodborne

My entire point was that the Dragon is actually immortal and the mortal blade can't kill it. I never said that the mortal blade only killed infested being. Infested beings aren't even immortal, they pass away on their own just like the head priest of Senpou temple did as well as all the other dead centipede monks int he cave. The point of that item description wasn't to say that the mortal blade only hurts things that are infested, it's pointing out how it doesn't hurt actual immortal beings, which was what I was arguing from point 1, yet you autistic fuckers kept harping on about intent like it fucking mattered.

Depends if you count the other stuff as canon. He duels Nobunaga and his wife at the same time and Nobunaga enjoys it as a pretty fun fight. We all Nioh Nobunaga would utterly annihilate Isshiin with zero effort

and thats just in the base game (which includes killing the fucking Orochi). William also goes on to fight other shit including some Kyuubi fox lady.

In any case William is far stronger

He's also agile and strong as fuck with relatively high health. Hunter has the speed but has mediocre health and damage whereas the CU can get okay damage and health, but lacks speed.
Sekiro has it all at the start.

I approve of this thread

>I never said it only killed infested

Yikes dude. Are you schizophrenic?
Hopefully, because then your faggot dads can get what’s coming to them.

The Centipedes are inside the fucking monks dude. They are small targets so a simple stabbing with the mortal blade kills the centipede.

Guys we have this anons approval, we can continue the thread

>Yet neglect to say how. No so.
Senpou temple monks, I've said it multiple times.
>He got stabbed in the lung
He's holding his abdomen you fucking idiot.
>The mortal blade treats immortals as if they weren't
Yet the only time it's actually used on an immortal it doesn't do anything. Infested are not immortal and the Return Ending hints at this. Maybe you should actually play the game for once.

the water that the senpou monks used to gain immortality via infestation came from the divine realm
that's why the monk guarding the bridge is infested
that's how Hanbei got infested, he must have drank infested water at some point accidentally and happened to get infested
the guardian ape's watering hole has a broken piece of the divine realm's architecture in it, hinting that the water in the watering hole comes from the divine realm even before the carp dies there
not everything that drinks infested water gets infested because the ape's mates never got infested

>then
>"in every instance wolf pulls out the centipede and stabs it"
>now
>"the centipedes are in the body! he's obviously just stabbing the centipedes!"
Which doesn't fit the fact that even the Centipede Monks with the Centipedes out of the body, he just stabs the monks instead.

Maybe you should rid the world of your headcanon forever by putting a bullet through

the wound did not kill the dragon because you send him back to the west in the return ending

>that's why the monk guarding the bridge is infested
No one actually knows how infestation occurs, but it isn't the rejuvenating waters, maybe anyway, because the Divine Child isn't infested.

Divine Abduction

you guys understimate how much ranged parry is broken in 1v1

Nice coping mechanism.

>The point wasn't to make the dragon bleed.
The point was to get dragon tears.
And a good way to do that is go for the tear duct.
So in a round about way. Yes. It was.

>Kuro isn’t infested he’s immortal that’s why when he cut himself he didn’t immediately die
>but he’s not immortal only the dragon is immortal

the other senpou monks used the rejuvenating waters on themselves, and divine child somehow gained immortality from rejuvenating water without becoming infested, that part of the game isn't very clear

Are the centipedes representative of corruption and impurity in sekiro, just like in BB with vermin?

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I imagine the CU's kick can be Mirkiri'd, but what would the BotC's shield break do against Sekiro, assuming it hits him?

I don't remember. But for sure you can't upgrade armor in Dark Souls 3 anymore, and that was an A-team game.

Anyway when people compare CU to the Havel NPC I never assume they're fighting CU with max level Giant Dad, Elite Knight, Brass or Havel sets. Good luck with that Sekiro man.

I went full /fashion/ souls and maxed out the dingy clothes, tattered cloth manchettes and those black tights/ black leather boots. I think I used the Crown of Dusk because the animal ears are cool. Even this set does way more damage reduction than base level gear.

couldn't do shit against gatling gun, blunderbuss or dark bead

kinda, they represent humanity's lust for immortality at any cost, even when the cost is losing your life as you know it

Nice job ignoring the rest of my post. you somehow take "only works on infested" as the mortal blade somehow can only harm infested and absolutely nothing else when we were talking, from point A, about how it functions against the supernatural and the divine. The mortal blade is not something used against the headless, for example.

I never said Kuro was immortal.

Sekiro can clearly be cut up into little pieces and left useless. He loses his arm even when he is already immortal.

That can't be true either because Genichiro gained immortality through the rejuvenating waters and he wasn't infested either. The other children of Senpou temple obviously didn't get infested because they died and you can see their bound corpses in the game world. Infestation is something completely detached from the Rejuvenating Waters, I'm almost 100% certain.

>I’m not saying that the mortal blade only works on infested
Direct quote
>The game even says that it only works on the infested
Based schizo user, I’ll say it again because you’ve forgotten. When you kill your dads, go for the vitals.

Why doesn't Sekiro die when killed by the black mortal blade? Why do bosses just sit around endlessly waiting for him to come wreck them instead of just doing what their goal was?

Centipedes are representative of various things in Japanese media, but the main theme surrounding them is corruption. Whether it's the corruption of a religion, of the soul, or of the body, they're used frequently to showcase that.
They're almost always seen as monsters and gods.

Sekiro if it was to protect the Divine Heir

Wasn't infestation from drinking impure rejuvenating water infected with centipede eggs?

>e game even says that it only works on the infested
Nice job you autistic loser, you're actually oging to take that term out of context in regards to the argument of what was being discusse.d You should try to call anyone else retarded when this is how you argue.

That wasn't me I was just replaying to your post

Because he never gets hit by it.

yeah how does this shit even work? Stab wounds heal but lost limbs dont regrow?

>you're actually oging to take that term out of context in regards to the argument of what was being discusse.d
Based schizo user had the shakes, calm your nerves before you do the deed. You don’t want to miss those vitals.

What if William wants to save his childhood friend?

>take sometihng out of context when the entire argument was about how the mortal blade functions against the super natural
>Schizo!!!!!!!!
Absolute retard confirmed.

The CU doesn't. But Sekiro does. His killing blows in armored foes that aren't that foreigner are Stabs in areas where there is no armor.
Are you forgetting about Smough?
I'm not. Have you looked at the Smough armor set.
The legs are just a set of high metal boots with black pants.
Weak point for Sekiro to stab. Slide under a CU in Smough set and skewer him from the Crotch up. The reason Sekiro couldn't deal with the Fiegner is because he literally had no opening in his armor outside of the palms of his hands.

inconsistent plot device is the only reason he lost his arm
he and the hunter and the CU all get hit harder than the hit that severs Sekiro's arm but no one else ever loses a limb
just don't think about it because it'll never make sense

But he did in the streams I saw. If From is going to "explain" death in its gameplay they need to do an actual better job

>how the mortal blade functions
Direct quote
>The game even says that it only works on the infested
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>Genichiro Ashina was borrn a commoner. After his mother's death, he was taken in by the Ashina.
Why does grandpa who is not actually even blood related pop out of his neck then?

The Armored Warrior clearly has eye holes to see and places with less armor. Black Iron Tarkus, whose set the CU can wear, is even more heavily armored. Anywhere that doesn't have plate has chainmail.

The mortal blade immediately kills “fake immortals” but doesn’t kill Kuro. Kuro isn’t immortal because the mortal blade, which immediately kills “fake immortals” fails to immediately kill him
>this is your brain on schizophrenia

Yeah because that worked out so well in his first fight with Genichiro