Remember when Pokemon games had SOME sort of effort put into them and had some actual challenge?

u mad?

no

No?

The only early Pokémon games that might have had any challenge whatsoever were the post-game Battle Frontier and the Gym Leader Castles in the N64 Stadium games... and the real challenge was from the RNG unashamedly tilting percentages for critical hits/more hits in multi-hit moves/status ailments in attack+status moves in the computer's favor.

Coverage to hit fellow water types that are basically unaffected by Lapras weak offenses when taking resisted hits of Blizzard or Hydro Pump.

You can try to act like a badass or whatever and be like "Pokemon was never hard bro! You were just a kid and bad at games!", OPs pic makes a conscious effort to provide adequate teams to in game CPUs. You can actually lose to these teams rather easily if you make mistakes. Thats the point.

>we will never have gems back

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>challenge mode
>rematch meaning increased levels and varied team
Sure Bro.

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and thats a good thing

yeah I do

z-moves are the same but more interesting, get your head out of your ass

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The only challenge in that team, besides the increased levels and the held items, was the random Aggron there designed solely to trip up people who think they'll sweep Iris again with a single Ice-type. Every game in the series that has a boss rematch has similar gotchas.

obsessed

seething

cope

wow this guy's tough

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okay phoneposter retard
gems were good with acrobatics and z-stones are special snowflakes and can't be knocked off. Bring em back, have both

You just wrote the 3 things this website loves to spam

>okay phoneposter retard
obsessed

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>that Salamence
Holy fuck.

honestly, i never card for the single player aspect. Only got the games to play with other people.

>hard mode challenge mode.

At least post DP Cynthia instead of this shit bait.

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Z-moves don't do flying gem + acrobatics, but every other gem is kinda bad for not having acrobatics

Its not even the rematch team im referring to, i hate to post meme pics but this is a good example.

In Platinum, the pokemon are diverse, have good moves that take advantage of their stats and cover possible weaknesses along with good items.

Even if you think the right is "Easy" theres an obvious difference between the right and its clear which one is more difficult. It does try to provide challenge, as much as a pokemon game can have at least.

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nope

HG/SS is a remake, while still keep the shit ass level curve at least have a excuse.

Past gen 5 games are inexcusable tho. X/Y feels like a insult with everyone having 3 pokemons.

>DP Cynthia
garbage level spikes is not good difficulty, go back
so one gimmick with acrobatics? that's it? you're a moron if you think that is good, gems are good riddance, z-moves are here to stay and miles ahead in how many synergies and crutches you can pull of with them

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Even on platinum she is bound to fuck you in the ass if you go blind.

I hope you have a ice punch Weavile or Blizzard frolass which i doubt that anyone does.

A fucking Glaceon.
I destroyed Cynthia with that and Roserade.

you can use more than 1 gem on a team and it triggers abilities once it gets removed like unburden

Yes, but sadly you had to look towards the games not made by Game Freak to get there.

This entire team gets annihilated by a Hitmonchan/top with ice punch + 1 x-speed lmao

pokemon needs some actual hard modes

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Your showing a postgame champion team that can be taken out by 1 genie and a mamoswine

Can't wait for the D&P remake and everything is made even easier than LGE/LGP

Pokemon was never very hard but the games have definitely gotten much easier

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that machamp is gonna be at -1 attack after it gets its first knockout.

>thunder without rain dance
I hope u don’t do this

Oh kill yourself, you're just going to kill each pokemon in one hit, so why do you give a fuck if they have 1 or 4 moves? At the end of the day you'll only see one before it faints unless you're playing like some cocksucking retard.

>genie
Genies of healthy meta don't count

Unovabortions are the worst

Rate. The Chikorita is there just for cut. Just got to the grass gym in leafgreen

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>encouraging laziness
Fuck off Gamefreak

Name a good gen

FPBP
If you really think JRPGs in general, or pokemon in particular ever have been, are, or even could be any kind of challenge, you need to play more turn based games with actual good gameplay.
Go check Open Xcom and DivOS1&2, for a start.

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FPBP. Pokemon has never been difficult.

First of all, have sex.

Second, you don't straight up one hit ko Pokemon unless you're over leveling one Pokemon.

Third, Pokemon games since XY have NPC Pokemon with gimped stats with 0 IVs/EVs and the worst AI. XY had so many trainers with 3 or less moves because the AI barely exists, it just uses random moves so even if your Pokemon's about to faint, they'll use growl.

Real talk here USUM did surprise me a couple times with its difficulty.
If Pokemon games keep difficulty like that I wouldn't mind, though I would love to see hard modes added.

USUM is a terrible example, it's on of the hardest Pokemon games.

>dude it's effort I swear you just need two copies of the games and two DS's and to have already beaten one game to play it
fuck BW2

>One raidboss redeems a piss easy game

All the totems are tougher than any Gen 5 gym leader

Totems have +6 and something to fuck you over with reinforcements.

You can't really bruteforce that easy compared to gym leaders.

Half of the moves on Barry's pokemon are garbage that basically gives you a free turn if the AI rolls it.

Not to mention that even with Z-moves Akala Island in particular is set up in a way that you can't just one-shot the totem with a supereffective Z-move.

Times have changed grandpa, get with the program.

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Yes, they are you fucking idiot.

Difficulty in gen 7 is weird. I'll admit that it has some good bosses, but the rest of the game is a total cakewalk

>growl
>tail whip
At least Hau's forces the dogshit trainer AI to actually deal damage.

Electric move* and it's quite common for Water types to have a coverage move for other waters.

Hau on island 3 is fucking nuts

Kukui is unironically one of the best Champion fights, his team is great and finally fighting the game's Professor in a real battle is kino

Hau in USUM was a step down, mostly because there are some real stinkers on his team like Crabominable

How did you get a pre-nat dex pokemon in LG before the nat dex?

At least Kukui is still a title defense battle in USUM. Him and Gladion have really great teams.

>finally put a challenge mode in Pokemon
>locked behind completing Black 2 (and Black 2 only) and then trading the unlock key to someone else's game
What the fuck is wrong with Gamefreak?

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>he still plays non-romhack pokemon games

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>pokemon is eas-

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Or the even more retarded choice
>put in an easy mode
>lock easy mode behind beating the game

t. Retard

Yuck.

Just play whoever.

Why did we allow them to get away with it?
Incidentally, I just busted a fat nut to Dawn's mother

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>Effort
>Gamefreak
Also BW was fucking shit, they say 4 is slow but nobody talks about how those games had ridiculous long dialogue and cutscenes. Only good thing they introduced was hidden abilitys

Honestly this, modders should ban together and start trying to release hard mode mods out quicker for newer pokemon games and find ways to mod in hard mod in legit copies.

I'll admit some of those fights had some decent level of difficulty for the series, but the first 5 pictures are just embarrassing for you.

i tired flawless platinum.

it was dog shit.

Why were the guys who actually made great games never in charge of more than 2 games? Sword and Shield are probably going to suck aren't they?..

Stop being tired.

nope

Iris has the best Champion theme, fight me.

>Dartix is made to use its grassium Z and die

The pokemon fanbase is the dumbest. The absolute dumbest and it's because of apologists like you. Kill yourself.

Well, it's better than diantha's or Alder's or the title defense.

>Third, Pokemon games since XY have NPC Pokemon with gimped stats with 0 IVs/EVs and the worst AI
Uh no? Since XY trainers ACTUALLY HAVE IVs and EVs, while before it was limited to E4 only.

>Third, Pokemon games since XY have NPC Pokemon with gimped stats with 0 IVs/EVs and the worst AI.
Literally incorrect. USUM definitely does not.

No.

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I prefer Cythina's theme
The music that plays before battling Cynthia is better than all the champion themes combined

Why the power up gems dissappeared? Only the normal gem remains.

what do you mean

At first I thought it was because they wanted to lower item clutter.

But then I remember playing SM and there's a whole section dedicated to having a shit ton of items that do one specific thing(like evolving a trade Pokemon or a hold item for legendaries) AND they have an Arceus copy which clutters the items with plates and plate-copies

No but i remember when they were good
>Emerald
Bye

Remember, only basic bitches go for furfag pokemon like lopunny, or lucario, or blaziken

out with the anthro shit in with the aliens and plants

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>abilities with type
imbecile

>Johto is good because it has two regions

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Give me some recommendations then please

coverage, Hydro Pump and Blizzard cover most of the other types for at least neutral damage, but aren't effective against an opposing water type

I had Blizzard but not gonna lie that dragon dance haxorus almost did it to me

Gen 2 sucks.