KEK

>colour swapped ninja dudes and ninja bikini girls
>now its colour swapped ninjas AND coloured swapped ninja chick body suits
Such innovation.

Without that breastplate armor she has the proportions of an average man

Not only did mk11 turn the females bodies into un-athletic fembot type bodies, they also gave them average to ugly looking faces.

So now they don't even have to be fit/hardbodies anymore, they can just have the body of some 30 year old alcoholic coke whore with bulima and is still fat somehow.

When I go to the gym I see a lot of girls witha hella lot better bodies, bigger asses and tits etc than in this game

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funny how the colour swapped ninja dudes got more distinct and unique, each one having their own design and personality.
All the girls are now the same sassy but tough stereotype while wearing the same color swapped clothes.

>Very disappointed about the comments on female costumes from the Mortal Kombat dev in Polygon. It's a slap in the face to the women who have supported the series from its inception to hear the implication that the devs were being knowingly disrespectful with the skimpier costumes
she's pretty good

OH NO NO NO

all the devs where saying they dont want the shit from mk9 back i can see why

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Seriously why isnt she a redhead anymore?

what about that shit from MK9 with better faces though?

>THOT'S RISE UP !
ahahahahaha , oh man

MUSLIM KOMBAAAAAAAAAT
*Faces towards Mecca for prayer*

you know you can have sexy without going down the doa path right

whats wrong with doa? are you saying womens breasts are made of concrete? i know you dont have much experience in this department but i can assure you tits bounce much more irl than in doa no matter what women wear.

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>Sonya Blade: No nonsese soldier, serious on her job, despises being considered sexy or being flirted.

>Kitana: The former princess of a dead empire who has been working for her 'father', a despot conqueror, always in doubt if that is the right path to take.

>Jade: Kitana's confidant and closest friend, believed to have or not have the hots for Smoke, also likes to take her role as a bodyguard seriously.

>Mileena: A evil clone of kitana, with a twisted personality and cannibalistic tendencies, the only female who likes to act sassy and flirty, cuz it helps her to net fresh meat.

dude... you are a moron.

im fully aware of that but to do so the character gotta have a good body shape and a nice face .

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>whats wrong with doa
the fact that that they all look like soulless and nobody plays the games and the overpriced dlc a lot

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wow a man in a fighting game has his shit off never happens before

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>sonya blade
>jacqui
>cassie
all the same
>kitana
>jade
>skarlet
ignore the shitty backstory(how nrs already did) and they are all the same.
>mileena
who? not even in the game

Describe the personality differences between Sonya, Jacqui and Kitana. Go ahead.

no shit the devs fucked the fans twice before release + they added those intorelable loli characters.

its like girls can't show chest like a dude or something crazy right? fucking hippie

Thats actually pretty sexist and problematic, MK men should be covered up like women.

why are you bringing that irrelevant shit up when you were talking about the way females are presented, cuck?

>ignore the shitty backstory
how did they her backstory is that she has blood powers

>basing an entire article around a youtube literally who video with

The reason it's pointed out like this for MK is because there was a quote by a guy making it saying something like "Who'd ever fight wearing a skimpy outfit like that? It doesn't cover anything." in regards to their female characters being more conservatively dressed.

>Cassie cage: she actually has no problem being sassy unlike sonya.
>Skarlet: introduced as a character vital to plot in MK11, doesnt count as we dont really know much about her..
>jacqui:... who gives a shit about her?

the point is, that not all MK women have the same personality and their backgrounds make them easy to differentiate, and even if they were dress scantily or not, it wouldnt affect jack shit.

Found it, here it is.

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how is a man not having a shit on skimpy

the problem here is that the guy in question is ed boon, the games creator.

the guy who fought tooth and nail against the government in order to keep his vision of a violent game, and now said man decides to pander to the authorities and SJWs saying that skimpy clothing is bad.

it somply doesnt add up.

No, its MK Devs saying women are dressing in burgas right now because of realism. But take a look at how the men dress and that stupid reasoning flies straight back at their faces. The real reason is they want to appear woke, with a game where characters tear out spines and piss on corpses.

again a guy has his shit off how is this a big fucking deal

Dumb people who like to bitch will bitch about nothing no matter what, who knew?
I agree the developers shouldn't let anyone's opinion affect their project tho, show some tits or don't but just don't feel the need to justify a creative choice as simple as clothing

are you fucking retarded how is the game sjw

>Our character lead, Brendan George, has been a breath of fresh air of just introducing new ideas. Our design is just getting more mature and respectful. You’re not going to wear a bikini to a fight. You’re not going to be showing so much skin. I think it’s just what the game is about: You’re going in to fight for your life, and you’re not going to be wearing such scantily clad items.
>I’m sure that will disappoint some fans. We don’t have bathing suit fighters, and I think that’s fine. If people are disappointed, I don’t regret making that change by any means.

man you fags are just as sensitive as the sjw you claim to hate

...

see

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ok retard give me in your words how the game is sjw

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Companies should only be attempting to cater to fans not SJWs, PETA, or any other org that doesn't even like the game.

This shouldn't even have to be said or a discussion. It's pathetic.

Who is this semen demon

slut shame the female cast while at the same time you are sexualizing your male cast . idk the double standard maybe ? also the your not supposed to go half naked to a fight and the males are all dressed like that while only the females are fully clothed

>this is sexy

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>bounding into comics
Might as well link the Quartering or EVS

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this, simply this, but the problem is that:
A: the corporations want ALL OF THE MONEY, not just a small piece, and in order to do that they need to homogenize shit to they can apply to every demographic regardless of quality or interest to said demos.

B: the SJWs will do anything to ruin things for everyone out of envy and spite, this is more than perfect for them.

Who is that boy?

>Sexualixing woman=Bad
>Sexualizing men=good
Why men is always treated like shit even when we are the ones doing things?
>My country says woman dies in domestic violence
>Men actually is 80% of the cases of domestic violence
>When a woman is killed is "feminicide", but when a men is killed is just "homicide"
>Men has 91.1% of chances of being killed out of home and 41% inside of his home if he has a partner

A lot of people were exposed as hacks when cultural influence moved from Christian's to secular left wing humanist types.

Suddenly the same result was fine under even more dubious logic. Sexuality is once again being puritanized.

>If you aren't sexist then you are sexist
What the fuck is this shit?

>Girl wearing a one piece swimsuit = WRONG
>Man wearing a speedo with a big bulge= OK

it does sound like a generalization, but thats the closest comparison, is that even remotely fair?

>Why men is always treated like shit even when we are the ones doing things?
Its actually other way around. SJWs are demanding modesty from women but not from men, without realizing the irony.

Why are you nerds freaking out about this? Just wait until PCPeople rip the characters and make all the MK11 bikini mods.

>threads have no segued into "you know, men are the real victims" shit
You niggers need to go back to 8ch already, its so obvious you don't play the games. You're not buying the games, you're not talking about the games, you're just spouting culture war shit and feeding into the outrage culture abortionstorm that surrounds this title.

>you can only respect women who are fully covered
>not sexist

>Why men is always treated like shit even when we are the ones doing things?

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>Just wait until PCPeople rip the characters and make all the MK11 bikini mods.
Not with those teenage boy bodies. They probably do something like MK9 bodies with MK11 faces or something.

not an argument

pic of men wearing speedos with bulges?

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do you even know what 'sexist' is?

sexism is belittling someone of a different gender JUST because they have a different gender, and i dont mean just flirting inappropiately but doing things like insult them, denying them support or jobs, treating them like animals or creatures, etc.

'Sexism' doesnt mean 'dress virtual/fictional characters in skimpy outfits for titilation'.

tldr: skimpy costumes and sexy sassy characters is NOT sexism, specially when said sexy sassy characters can rip your head off for flirting with them without even blink!

>>tldr: skimpy costumes and sexy sassy characters is NOT sexism
Yes, they are. Skimpy costumes only exists to objectify woman and nothing else.

"Sexy sassy characters" are just a horny teenager thing, a male power fantasy.

>mods in multiplayer games that nobody else will see
Dumbest shit

>"Sexy sassy characters" are just a horny teenager thing, a male power fantasy.
Thats right fellow user, for the safety and modesty of all women in the entire world, we should make them as unsexy as possible and punish them if they show any skin in public.

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I still don't really understand if Yea Forums is mad they don't have half naked chicks to fap to in game or if they're mad they're toning down the sex to avoid upsetting blue haired whales.

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what the hell is that ?

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Most people on MK communities think the reasoning is dumb and its obvious they're just afraid the SJWs they hired might throw a hissy fit. But yeah its their wine, if they want to pour water into it thats their decision, just like me pirating their game for this is mine. No point making 50+ threads about it every single day.

Yea Forums is made that SJW are making games and it doesn't cater to them.

If I didn't go on Yea Forums I don't think I would know of retardera's existance.

It always does

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>Most people on MK communities think the reasoning is dumb
lmao

imagine the smell inside that suit

I want ALL MK Kharacters to be sexy to one crowd or another. I want fat men and women, thin men and women, muscly men and women, inhuman men and women. If anyone is offended once this is achieved they should be ignored as they are either shitheels or nulls. Either one should be ignored.

No. It's because women are weaker than men. They need the extra protection. They are secretly redpilled.

Both

you better believe a good chunk is mad for the first thing. at least i know im mad for the second, as well as many others.

this is a domino effect, the more leeway devs and authorities give the SJWs, mor and more things they will be censoring.

i can bet in a couple of years, Mortal kombat 13 will feature debate kombat instead of punches and friendships actually played straight and not as parodies to stick it to the man.

*SPECIALLY, WHEN SAID SEXY SASSY CHARACTER CAN RIP YOUR HEAD OFF FOR FLIRTING WITH THEM WITHOUT EVEN BLINK.

im pretty sure a sexy badass girl is a FEMALE power fantasy, not a male one.

As fun as this whole outrage is, will sales really be hurt? Or is this just outrage for the sake of it? I absolutely won't be purchasing it due to the hypocrisim, but will the majority care?

>the more leeway devs and authorities give the SJWs
the devs and authorities aren't giving SJWs leeway
the devs and authorities ARE SJWs

Wow... just... WOW. Sexist much, misogynist incel? How about just let women speak for themselves, ok?

yes it is dumb, it an hypocrisy thru and thru.

if they are going for realism, then why ALL the male characters arent wearing less form fitting clothing or heavy armor.

the only ones who actually wear actual kombat attires are Scorpion, Subzero, Cage, Shang tsung, Baraka and Raiden.

Kano, Greas, Liu kang and Kung lao still wear powerfantasy-like clothing that emphatizes ther appearance allowing women to ogle at them.

even if its only 4/10 males whe dress sexily, the point is that THERE ARE MALES WHO DRESS SEXILY WHILE THERES NO SEXILY DRESSED WOMEN!

NOW YOU GET THE PROBLEM? if they REALLY want to go for 'realism', then EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER must be covered or wear unsexy clothing, the fact that only males can be sexy while women are covered is wrong and proves how sickeningly hypocritical NRS is being.

>will sales really be hurt
no
>Or is this just outrage for the sake of it
yes most are talking about the game while other idiots are talking about stupid shit

nah , sales will be more or less the same as MkX . Mk cater to a casual audience ( normies) they dont know about any of this so they will buy again play for a couple of weeks and forget about the game , this is also why Mk player base decrease so much in a short period of time .

>Video posted on Feb 25 2019
>8,340 views

man you guys are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel for anyone talking about this

FYi nobody in NRS gives a fuck

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Are you ok?

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3/10 then...

still my pojnt stands.

>guy doesn't wear a shit
>THIS GUY IS DRESSING SEXILY
???

You know, it's funny you say that, but females and males don't compete professionally in any sport for a good reason. A Mortal Kombat tournament would be no exception.

The female characters would get destroyed wholesale by fucking Shao Khan (as an example).

go back to whatever corner of atechan you crawled from please

MKX struck as decent balance although it was leaning on the covered up side. MK11 is going full halal though

YES! a woman wearing skimply clothing IS the same as a man wearing just pants showing his body, you or i wont be seeing that and say 'thats hot', but there will be women that will.

meanwhile, us men, dont have even 1 woman we can look and say 'thats hot too'.

seriously, how many times people are gonna explain this shit before you get it.

he also looks like this

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Do you count this as combat attire? I wouldn't. This outfit also emphasises his arms and chest. I feel as though his pants are tight, and reveal the muscles underneath. I can't say for sure, due to you not using a full body image.

>Do you count this as combat attire? I wouldn't.
The fuck are you talking about?

>Yeah, no, I don't want to reward the idea that men can only respect women if we have almost no skin showing.
>That's dated and Puritan and it's not empowering.

She just BTFO Ed Booner and the entire Nether Realms studio with this single Tweet.
It's just pandering to the extremely small radical fascist mentally ill sjw minority who get off by dictating and speaking for others how they should dress, talk, walk and what to think and do. Commies do that, not a free society.

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Go to any MK forum and 90% the thread discussion goes like this:
>"I respect the development team and the game looks great I'm so going to buy it but yeah the shirtless dudes kinda make the whole "realism"-argument look like hypocrisy. But I don't care its a great game."
If even fucking fanboys call that out, its a dumb fucking statement.

>Ripping off heads is good
>Wearing sexy clothes is bad
???

lol bait
woman purposely designed to appeal to the male gaze =/= men wearing pants and no shirt
How about we design the men to actually appeal to woman or better yet to gays? I bet you guys would be uncomfortable as fuck and complain just as much.

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You can ridicule me, call me incel, virgin whatever.
I will not stand for this hypocrisy, I loved MK series and I wont buy the new one, maybe I will pirate the pc version, thats it
You can make all the dudes topless costumes available and say
>who would fight for life naked lol!
Fuck boon, fuck nsr, fuck western video games

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>Our design is just getting more mature and respectful. You’re not going to wear a bikini to a fight. You’re not going to be showing so much skin. I think it’s just what the game is about: You’re going in to fight for your life, and you’re not going to be wearing such scantily clad items.

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>characters are sexy
no that's too far! that's sexist and chauvinistic!
>characters aren't sexy
not good enough! we want boobs mommy milky!

I fucking hate this gay earth, just filled to the brim with autism

Someone justify it. I've asked before but why are bikinis allowed
>In advertisments
>On TV and in movies
>In real life
>all over the internet
But not video games?

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THATS THE POINT! the design of the men, at least the non-covered ones IS designed to appeal to the female gaze.

and the fact that the female gaze is being appealed without a proper counterpart to the male gaze is wrong.

>How about we design the men to actually appeal to woman
All the MK11 males have body and clothing straight out of female romance novel covers. Even the ugly ones like Baraka.

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I have no strong opinion on this because I stopped taking mortal kombat seriously after MK2.
It seems to me that a game with cartoonishly over the top violence and gore is a perfectly fitting setting for sexy fanservice. Which exact crowd is pleased that a game where you can rip someone's face off and eat it doesn't have scanitly clad women? Who is this even for?

i know this is a new concept for you, but theres women who like sexy female characters, those women actually know that while those design are used for men to fap, said characters also are presented as a empowered female ideal.

>Emma frost, Vampirella, Lady death, Wonder woman, Raven, Scarlet witch, and many other comic women are loved not only by men, but by women, and the fact many of these women actually enjoy to dress as those overly sexed gals shows that its not and never was a problem.

scratch the '>', but yeah...

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>and the fact that the female gaze is being appealed without a proper counterpart to the male gaze is wrong.
GAMERS
RISE
UP

What are you gonna do, demand that they change their character designs? I thought devs were free to do whatever they wanted to do or it was censorship.

>What are you gonna do

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they're free to do what they want, but they're deluded if they think they won't lose money from this

Man, /pol/ sure is outraged

it IS censorship, as the design was aimed to a completely different demographic.

the MK audience was the 90s dudes, one whose mantra was 'BLOOD GUTS AND BABES'

Mk9 was aimed to that exact same audience and was beloved by everyone, nobody complained back then.

Epic stuff. What a bunch of spineless simps you Muslim Kombat fags are. I was hoping you'd try to boycott the game just to see you fuck up but maybe I'll get my wish as the game gets closer to release.

>demand that they change their character designs?
It's worked so far. They changed Skarlet thanks to us.

>it IS censorship
The devs doing what they want is censorship? Okay retard, take your reddit spacing and get out.

Also everyone complained about how bad the women looked in MK9, newfag.

>we're being realistic!
>give the women outfits that would restrict their movement in real life
>also high heels

MK never sold on tits or babes. It was all about the gore. The chicks were just there. You can scream "NO NO NO" but you can also fuck off. That's how it fucking was. MK 1 didn't even have tits.

t. boomer

That sounds like something you made up, user, so I'm calling bullshit without proof.

>complains about reddit spacing
>uses it
At least try a little harder, shill

i would demand something, but NOT totally change.

i understand that they need the money, and the clothes doesnt look bad, they can keep them if they want.

HOWEVER! if they really want to go all puritan and not put actually sexy costume options to download or as secrets, then they deserve all the piracy they will deal with.

Go watch a stream. Look at her hair. Sure looks longer now.

And no, the short hair isn't hidden somewhere. It's gone.

Nice try, newfag

they complained for the face looking 'too manly', not the boobs and clothes.

You just can't win with these people, huh?...

you're the reddit migrant, not me

That's your proof? "Look at her hair, we did that?"

Am I being memed? Oh wait of course I am

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the person complaining is not a feminist.

please tell me this: what feminist do you know would go around in conventions dressed like THIS?:

Tits , violence and cheesy characters . thats mk zoomer

BASED LIANA

>the guy who fought tooth and nail against the government in order to keep his vision of a violent game, and now said man decides to pander to the authorities and SJWs saying that skimpy clothing is bad.
Because Americans genuinely believe that fictional violence is harmless but fictional sex appeal is horrifying.

She's pandering for more patreon subs.
>wow, a based and redpilled gamer girl! I'll give her money to tell me how dumb the sjws are!

>People bitch hard
>suddenly, it's different
Do you actually believe this was a coincidence?

when you finna buss but sex is a no-no

Do you think any of these people whining honestly remember anything Boon did in the 90's? People are just claiming he's a sellout and a cuck and a fag because they're assblasted retards.

No. Violence and gore was and always has been. That is the ONE thing about MK. Anything else is unimportant. MK 1 had no tits.

MK did not start in 2011, faggot.

>just shove Antman up Thanos' ass lololololol
Why are geeks so obsessed with anal vore?

>Real talk: if you can't respect a woman when she's not wearing clothes, then you don't respect women.

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Lol, okay, Mr. Edgy 15 year old

Mk2 had tits, MK3 sonya was busty as fuck, no woman alive would wear in public outside of a convention the clothing Zia, Sareena and Jataaka wore in MKMSZ, Tanya broke necks with her vag in MK4...

must i continue?

Time for you to search the word "boycott" from a dictionary, dumb resetera tranny.

Nop it wasnt , now it is becouse the tits are gone .

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Stop pandering to girls and start pandering to bara enthusiasts. I demand more shirtless men.

Only if I get my tits, gaylord.

MK 1 had no tits. The series has never sold on sex. This is objective fact. Please provide evidence to the contrary

i just fucking did.

Yes, it was. No one cared about the tits. Fuck you you history revisionist cock smoking fucking whore kike

Make like him and an hero, then.

WHAT???
*inhales*
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH OH NO NO NO NO NO

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>The series has never sold on sex.
It sold on exploitation. Dumb he-man outfits and Titty corsets are part of that. Trying to make MK "more modest" is a fucking stupid idea.

I always thought MK was SJWs proof, in the sense that even with the huge tits and all that shit, it was duch a normie game, that any retard complaining online wouldnt do shit for sales or casual appeal

But apparently, the retards at NRS had to start listening to the retards

>never sold on sex
okay not only you prove that you have no idea of what you talking about you also prove that you are retarded.

basically all the game from Mk3 to Mk9 , MkX toned down and Mk11 completely removed

no self respecting man would buy this game

The "Standards" of what is liked, is far more alike among males (in what they like in females) than it is in females.
Just because YOU or your friend dont like X, doesnt mean its INTENT isnt for females to like. (Nor that females dont like it)
The MOST liked physical feature on a male, is liked by less than 40% of the female population.
All other things liked, can be drastically different, and not a single thing is liked by more than 50% of females.

This argument is shit, and you know it.

this might be off topic but does anybody like when asscrack shows up in games

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you can just SEE how they did not want any females to show skin at all, its actually incredibly distracting

That sounds like Yea Forumss type of game then
Depends on the size loli ass is gay

(1) They should just stop lying about their intent, which is clear as day.
If they said hey, we're doing this thing you dont like, people will complain, and not buy it, just the same, but people are going to at least not be mad about them lying.
(2) They arent entitled to customers money, just as the customers arent entitled to a perfect sequel.
(3) Voicing your displeasure for the product you would buy, if done correctly, is the only way to get the product you want. Voicing an opinion for a product you dont plan to buy, even if made correctly, helps no one. (Pick your fans above anyone else)
(4) This is a sequel, not an original IP. They know the fans want more of the same. They are perfectly fine getting complaints about how it should be made. If it were an original IP, the complaints would be nearly non existent.

No one is saying they should censor themselves. If they truly want to make it this way, they should, and accept that they get less money.

one of the best things

>All I know that this is turning me more and more into a hitler(and a lot of other people).
Commonly known as schizophrenia.

>(1) They should just stop lying about their intent, which is clear as day.
So you want them to say "We are changing the women to be covered up because of the SJW agenda"? That is what you're claiming, as I understand it.

And if this is about costing the company money I think you're going to be upset in the end, because MK is going to sell.

i can agree:

if they would have avoided the 'realism' excuse and say 'we are sorry for the fans who enyojed sexiness, but we do believe modest women is the true next step in MK evolution and we simply cannot allow sexy women anymore' straight, a lot of people would have respected that.

but what they are doing here is clearly lying just beacuse they want to reach every single demographic rather than give their already loyal fanbase what they want.

Hey it's that autistic shill that:
>calls everyone a retard or weeb
>can't defend NRS's shitty animations or crap character designs
I thought we told you to leave. How much is NRS paying you to troll here or do you do it for free?

It was in MK1-MK4

>if they would have avoided the 'realism' excuse and say 'we are sorry for the fans who enyojed sexiness, but we do believe modest women is the true next step in MK evolution and we simply cannot allow sexy women anymore' straight, a lot of people would have respected that.
Horse shit. You'd still have people bitching about it, because this has happened before.

Same here, the only reason I know about that place is via people being outraged about it and posting screenshots.

>So you want them to say "We are changing the women to be covered up because of the SJW agenda
They shouldnt talk about "Appropriate" attire for killing eachother, while you still have guys wearing loinclothes.
There's a reason, if its SJW reasons, then thats it, if not, then they can say what that is. If they dont think peopel will like the answer, then dont answer (People will assume anyways, regardless if u lie or dont answer)

>a lot of people would have respected that.
user pls

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he never said he wouldnt. he said people would have respected they told the truth.
not that they were happy with it. (muchless himself)

>he said people would have respected they told the truth.
And I say horse shit

>he said people would have respected they told the truth.
No they wouldn't, anons would just call them sjw nigger cucks to afraid to make sexy females.

>but we do believe modest women is the true next step in MK evolution and we simply cannot allow sexy women anymore' straight, a lot of people would have respected that.
Don't be ridiculous, and learn how to type.

I want Kanos to piss on me.

I call horseshit on your horseshit.

thats not directly related. People are already saying that while he lied, so obviously its not related.
They are upset at the lack of female characters with that statement, not if there is a lie or not.

>thats not directly related.
It literally is they'
d be called sjw cucks simply for changing designs or not having skimpy females whatsoever

>So you want them to say "We are changing the women to be covered up because of the SJW agenda"? That is what you're claiming, as I understand it.
People hate lying and hypocrisy. It makes a person or association untrustworthy. I wont buy MK11 because NRM is now untrustworthy. They're going to tone down the violence in later games too, this is the first step towards self-censorship that already nearly ruined the franchise once.

Imagine if GTA tried to pull this shit.
>Our design is getting more mature and respectful. No more fucking scantily clad hookers in cars. Women will now be tastefully covered in burkas. GTA is about murdering innocents and dismembering their corpses before dumping them in a lake. Sex in video games is wrong. I'm sure some fans will be disappointed. We don't condone depictions of hookers and I think that's fine. If people are disappointed, they can go fuck themselves.

its not horseshit.

>NRS lies badly
>People outrage

>NRS tells the truth.
>People get mad, but since they realize now nothing can be done, they will just go, 'ok, fine, whatever dumbasses, you arent getting my money'.

its simple really, a matter of being honest and sicere with your audience, the outrage here is because everyone with half a brain knows that they are lying to their audience because they dont want to pander to them but rather to an audience who will never touch the game.

tellign the truth, as harsh as it might be, its respectful because they BELIEVE in a sincere way that what they are doing is for the betterment of the franchise, and not for appeasing morons.

unfortunately, the fact that we know they are lying proves that they dont care about their game.

People are wisening up to low skill ceiling games. Overwatch is dumbed down shit. Fortnite's skill ceiling is tied to building which actually has a lot of depth. I think Fortnite is pretty boring, but I can respect it way more than Slowverwatch which has the depth of a puddle and doesn't even have amazing players in their pro scene.

>People get mad, but since they realize now nothing can be done, they will just go, 'ok, fine, whatever dumbasses, you aren't getting my money'.
When has this ever fucking happend here? No matter what they would've been called sjws

You're too young to remember conservatives and liberals alike tardraging about Hot Coffee

Again, they are called that now.
How is telling the truth going to change that outcome?

I dont play Mortal Kombat, and never liked the series, I have no horse in the race of "sexy females" I personally am only pissed they lie to our faces.

Id still say what you said, but not be mad at them for lying, if they told the truth.
How is it you still dont understand those are two different categories?

Jesus fucking Christ. How hard is it to just maintain what you have and build on your current audience? Is there even a good track record of being successful after making "woke" changes? I hope this MK torches the studio, they need replacing.

Have you ever tried thinking for yourself for once? This shit reads like its straight from the pages of a manuscript.

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Name me one time that has ever happened. "Oh yeah they say they're putting a SJW agenda in their game but they're honest about it, I respect that!"

>How can people be mad at differing levels of anger?
I shouldnt have to explain this for you...

>How is telling the truth going to change that outcome?
Nothing would've changed whatsoever that's what I'm saying these threads would still happen and anons would still complain about the outfits.

Yeah who the fuck is this Ed Boon fag making the game, where did he come from?

Give me a time when that actually happend

They ALWAYS eat their own

>but they're honest about it, I respect that!"
Who claimed that? These threads would just be less numerous if they were upfront about it. People hate liars.

OH NO NO NO NOOO

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No one cares? so why remove them?

The Ed Boon of today is not the same man who fought for his original vision, he's just hoping to score brownie points by pandering to SJWs.

>Who claimed that?
Goddamn what is this fucking shit? Read, nigger:

>Who claimed that?
>a lot of people would have respected that.
>he said people would have respected they told the truth.

We both agree on that, but you're the one who called "Horseshit".

Id be annoyed at their choice, but I'm even more pissed they think they can be sly and get away with lying about it.
Its twice the problem. Having the original problem still in place doesnt remove all anger...

Besides what I just wrote? Practically any parent who is upset at their kid for doing something wrong. They "get more mad" when the kid lies.
The only difference is that some parents "actually" punish the kid harder, and most pretend they increased the punishment.

If no one cares then you don't have to keep them correct?

Definitely an attempt by video game devs to have their work deemed "legitimate" when compared to other types of media.

>Besides this example that I didn't give? An anecdotal example!
Jesus, dude

AND I SAY

>We both agree on that, but you're the one who called "Horseshit".
user called Horseshit on the "everyone would respect their decision which is horseshit.
>Besides what I just wrote?
You have yet to give any game where the devs said this and Yea Forums respected their decision stop acting retarded

You be been posting this every day for the past month. Seek help.

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I'm the one who called horse shit, you have multiple people who disagree with you here.

You think that's bad
boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/"Mortal Kombat: A Forced Hero"/type/op/

Oh my God

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>"Give me an example of a person who feels a certain way"
>"You cant say yourself!"
Also Im not the actual person who started this, Im defending them, so that makes 2.

I never said Yea Forums respected anyone/anything. The people who are content dont type up hate letters. Anger encourages the spread of information far more than jokes do. Jokes spread around easily, but still dwarfed by anger.

Half the town I live in knows me from where I worked, and said how much they loved me there.
But did I get a single comment on how much they liked me on a company survey? Yes, but only once.

You sure as hell can bet people complain far more than they compliment, even if they feel it.

then my answer is "i thought it was you" which answers "why".

No, just you poltard. You can hate sjw's without being a racist, just like you can hate the dregs of humanity without associating behavior with skin color.

>I never said Yea Forums respected anyone/anything.
Then get the fuck out of the conversation, retard, because the claim was "Yea Forums would respect devs who were upfront about SJW values making women less sexy"

>still no argument
Yeah. Thought as much.

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no it wasnt.
YOU put that spin on it.
it was a generalization that people prefer companies to not lie. (They also prefer the companies to make content they like.)

>I never said Yea Forums respected anyone/anything
Then fuck off because we are literally talking about Yea Forums here. You have added nothing to the argument and still refuse to give any examples

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and of course they disagree, because no Dev has ever been sincere on their plans.

NRS are lying, plain and simple, they are not only censoring women, but they are sexualizing men to pander to the complaining audience and lying that they are doing it for the sake of 'Realism'.

if NRS went clean and say 'ok yeah, we are pandering to SJWs, because we believe is for the best for everyone.' people would definitely STILL be mad, but at least since thy know it can be helped, they can go 'Oh ok, you hate your older fanbase? then you dont want our money then.'

but they WONT come clean, they dont want to admit their reasoning, and they dont want to give their actual loyal fanbase what they want, and thats what makes people outrage.

Theres a weird point where it goes from being annoying to being funny. Mortal Cuckbat fanfic guy has reached that point.

Fuck off, you can't list a single time that has happened with regards to a video game company. This is all because you're just butthurt about NRS "lying" to you.

>no it wasnt.
If you don't think this was talking about Yea Forums you're a retarded faggot
This user was clearly referencing an event here

>and they dont want to give their actual loyal fanbase what they want
The people whining about Muslim Kombat are not a "loyal fanbase."

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I'm not as outraged about the women in the game as much as others but this is just plain complete fucking garbage he doesn't actually believe. There's no way this wasn't purely an attempt at PR.

>Be NRS
>Remake MK into MK9, lots of fanservice and sideboobs
>Everyone loves it but the sexism is turned down
>Make MK11 and cover every inch on the girls body to not anger SJWs
>SJWs complain that only men are sexualized and since they know sexualizing women is disrespectful, they've been doing it on purpose for years
There's just nothing you can do to please people is there?

>>but they're honest about it, I respect that!"
>Who claimed that?

You fucking did you idiot.

Considering I mad the original post saying it would be better if they didnt lie, no, i wasnt talking solely about Yea Forums.
Also, you cant prove something that doesnt leave physical evidence behind.
Lets pretend half of Yea Forums was happy for it. And they dont actually bother making a thread about it, or commenting in a thread about it.
How do i link back to it, to prove it?

How about you prove peopel who are content with the truth being told, while ALSO doing something wrong, had people mad they told the truth, regardless if they did the other thing or not.
Link me to a single post on Yea Forums.

for fuck sake, he was in agreement to my statement, AND it says "people" not Yea Forums.
You guys cant fucking read, and love to make assumptions

again, what SJW would go in a convention dressed as one of the most well known SLUTS in vidya history?

people who dresses like this , would NEVER be on the side of those fuckers.

>Lets pretend half of Yea Forums was happy for i
You're going to have to pretend because you're asking us to imagine something that will never happen. You're doing this because you have no examples of it ever happening. Fuck off you bored debate club reject.

>Video Uploaded: Feb 25, 2019
>Article: March 29, 2019
Yikes.

No I didnt. You think youre only talking to one person in an imageboard? Retard.

seems like the developer is saying a woman needs to be covered up in order to be respected, in order to be in the game, and in order to be taken seriously

seems very sexist. Why can't the developer respect a woman who is not conforming to puritanical clothing standards?

I think people have realized just how much NRS wanted to pander to consumers that they took their sexualizing all the way back to pretty much covering girls completely
Lots of people just like beauty in general, whether it's a girl showing her flat stomach or a guy flexing his muscles while bare chested
Leaving sexualization of men alone and completely covering girls up has the opposite effect and I think people noticed that they only did it to please SJWs

You cant link to me to a single case where you're right?
Not even once?

If one of us was right, you'd imagine there would be at least one link proving one of us...

I assume you deflecting back to your original argument was you realizing you're wrong.

Give it up dickhead, Yea Forums would be outraged either way as is what always happens. If you think otherwise then show the proof from the archives. Burden of proof is on you.

>MK1-4
>Women are sexy but dress relatively reserved with the exception of Sheeva who is dressed like a barbarian
>MK5-8
>Women are sexy with the exception of Mileena (whose whole gimmick is dressing like a slut) are sexy but dress relatively reserved
>MK9
>Women are dressed like whores with no exceptions.
>MK10 & 11
>Women are sexy but dress regardless reserved
DUDE WTF MK IS LITERALLY STABBING BE IN THE BACK AND SPITTING ON ITS FANS AND LEGACY. THIS SENS OR SHIPS IS OUT OF CONTROL.

>for fuck sake, he was in agreement to my statement, AND it says "people" not Yea Forums.
user It's not my fault you're being retarded and trying to deflect now.
>How do i link back to it, to prove it?
Fucking Fireden you mook

>You cant link to me to a single case where you're right?
VTMB, bam you lose

Why do you type like a retard?

Well no shit, why don't people understand that there's a fucking middle ground?

deffo sexist

As if you weren’t sick of it already back around 2011 when it started
>a decade of this garbage

How about BL3 and VtmB 2?

>MK10 & 11
>Women are sexy but dress regardless reserved
absolutely halal

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That ninja girl in blue is QT

> Types clearly and legibly.
> "why do you type like a retard?"

Maybe if you stop reading like a retard

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>burden of proof
thats like saying an athiest has to prove god doesnt exist, if he claims god doesnt exist.

if you want to convince me, you need to link me to a single post outside/before our argument, to prove it.

Link?
Link?

also, just so you guys see some evidence, despite how nearly impossible it is to get such evidence, heres a pic for you. (not that you'd accept it anyways)
An user agrees with me, so thats evidence its happened once.

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a ninja has a hood wow

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>I need a link for you to prove that Yea Forums has people mad about VtM:B2 having a SJW agenda
Fucking kill yourself dude, you're not fooling anyone.

The excuse that "it doesn't make sense to show a slot of skin when you're about to enter lethal combat fighting with someone" is absolutely fucking negated by more than half of the goddamn male cast fighting shirtless.

Don't pretend this is a goddamn realistic game, you don't know shit about realism. This is an immature gorefest and to pretend that it's somehow above women in sexy outfits is fucking hilarious.

These changes were made entirely for good boy points from obese feminists ashamed of their own bodies, and they're gonna lose sales from this shit because THOSE PEOPLE DON'T FUCKING BUY VIDEOGAMES

>She isn't sexy
Do you really have so little imagination that you need titflesh hanging out to get your blood pumping, or are you just desensitized?

>I need a link to prove someone, somewhere on Yea Forums preferes a company to not lie to them.

also, idk what the fuck VtM:B2 even is. Hence why I asked for a link. (Nor any of the other ones mentioned)

My friends who play MK don't care about this shit in the slightest. I've only played MK1 and one of the PS2 games and I don't remember scantily clad women being much of a feature either. MK1 didn't even have any.

It reeks of faux-outrage from the anti-SJWs who blame SJWs for exactly the same thing. Yea Forums is fucking retarded nowadays, it's getting worse than the peak of the 'anonymous is legion' shit in 2008.

they made the changes to appeal to people not into mk, I do not mind however I'm not going to buy this iteration either. It is what it is, whatever

*hijab and that doesnt look like a ninja , ask any random joe who doesnt known the character and he will say the same thing.

>prove that Yea Forums has people mad about VtM:B2 having a SJW agenda
You do realize thats not the arguement? its if they told the truth about it, and peopel are angry about them telling the truth. not if they have an SJW agenda.
Do you seriously not know what the argument even is?

>Don't pretend this is a goddamn realistic game, you don't know shit about realism.
Especially when they have over designed outfits that would hinder them in a fight.

i just think is a shit desing tasteless no soul . what , do i have to share ur kinks ?

Your argument is literally "People wouldn't be mad if they were honest about their intentions!". That is your claim, you need to back that up with proof because as everyone else who is disagreeing with you is trying to say: Intentions don't make any fucking difference, Yea Forums spergs out all the same.

Also no offence, but your English really isn't great and it's making you sound like a retard. I'm guessing you're ESL or something, so maybe you're just not expressing your opinion in English correctly.

Theyre french, they wont care. Same country that think Sharia imposed burkas are liberating for women

>dumb people on one side of the political spectrum get mad about nothing
>dumb people on the other side get mad about the dumb people getting mad about nothing
>suddenly dumb people on both sides mad about nothing

>No capital letters at the beginning of sentences
>Two carriage returns
>No full stops
>Clumsy use of commas
>Reads awkwardly

You know what they say

GO WOKE
GO BROKE

SJW don't buy games, they just want something to complain about, stop pandering to them

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can feminists make up their mind already?

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Should have titled the thread: Goober Gate 2: Revenge of the Goober Troobers

I said "They should stop lying about their intent"
the other user said "A lot of people would would respect that". Directly referencing my statement.

In short, you need to prove that there wouldnt be a large number of people (good luck defining the actual number, as its an unknown, hence why user didnt specificity, not even try to get a percentage) who wouldnt want the developers to tell the truth.

The original part he's referencing was a LIST of things they need to do. For over all happiness.

So if its just a step, it wont alleviate all problems.

Again, show me a single example, where players preferred if the DEVs were lying to them, after they found out they lied about their SJW intent.
Im not asking for a large number, or X number, just one person.

Im giving you the easy way out.

I got a capital D for ya right here

checked the link, plenty of people upset about SJW crap, not a single person happy if the DEVs lied or not.

That's mature enough , i suppose.

the sheer irony ... most of those things apply to your own post. That AND you can't even seem to figure out how to use sentences.

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Mantis a cute

>buy MK11
>enjoy MK11
>infuriate Yea Forums
I don't see a problem with this desu.

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I don't understand what point you're trying to make here. You post on this board regularly I assume? Can you tell me how long you've been here? The fact that you don't know about VtM:B2 is concerning considering there were threads all over the board about it just a couple of days ago. I don't even play the game but I have eyes and I can read, I'm not sure why you feel as though that example doesn't apply here.

'SJW intent' doesn't mean anything because Yea Forums gets equally angry either way. That's not something that needs to be verified, it's just common knowledge from posting here. I don't understand why this is such a difficult concept for you to grasp.

What country are you from? Maybe we can help you out in your home language? There may be some bilingual anons who can help.

yes we are

It's a list, and none of them apply to that post because it is a list. Do you understand how lists work?

I've unironically finally found it. A post talking about skimpy outfits that I don't know if it's bait or not

I would definitely be mad if they were clear with their intentions on this matter because it's as clear as fuck that they're just trying to cater to sjw stigma. It's bullshit. But the fact that they lie about it is just fucking insulting

Nah, I have a lot of friends who are long-time fans of the franchise and they don't care about the skimpy outfits.
It is a bit of a weird decision, but it won't affect anything.

Just goes to show you can go woke and still make a fuck-ton of money

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I already can see you dont understand what our points were. At this point, Ive tried to spell it out for you, but no matter how many times i say it directly, you keep repeating unrelated stuff.

You have an opinion of what you THINK i mean.
And based on that, you'd be in the "right" of the argument.
If you knew what i actually meant, chances are, you'd agree with me.

Since Ive come to fully realize what you're trying to argue, there's no reason to keep going, since im arguing something else.

All I can think to say now, is that I dont disagree that people will be upset about SJW shit or any other shit they dislike.

I'll take the bait by chipping in that male power fantasies only really exist in the sort of weak, predatory men who become male feminists.

>just trying to cater to sjw stigma
Stigma? I don't think that's the word you mean. You probably just mean 'cater to SJWs'. You can't use the word 'stigma' in that way, it doesn't make any sense.

>But the fact that they lie about it is just fucking insulting
You come across like a legitimate child.

>waste money to be petty
>think this will impress anyone
Enjoy your zoning game and crap dash sweetie :)

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It's not about who is 'right'. It's just a fact, it wouldn't make any difference if they were 'honest' about their intentions.

If you spoke better English we probably wouldn't be in this mess.

>insult on the internet
Sure showed him user.

>Kirtaner

god what a faggot

These threads are nothing but insults, there's nothing to discuss. Its a bunch of retards shitting their pants.

>it wouldn't make any difference
How would you measure that? What metric?

At least you admit to being one.

I'm not being petty, I'm genuinely looking forward to the game. Making you guys upset even more is just a bonus. You can convince yourself that I hate it as much as you want, but I've been enjoying the beta so far

What is this fetish you have for asking really stupid questions nonstop? Bad attempt at deflection or what?

Dude this is a transwoman. Stop your bullshit filthy jew.

is that an outro for when you don't do a fatality?or it's just a random interaction when you're switching stuff?

>How would you measure that? What metric?
What are you talking about? Do you even visit this board? Did you not see the VtM:B2 threads?

dont care really. The 'sexy' approach in MK only really began after MK3 (female ninjas looked nice but still did everthing the same as they used to)...when they stopped using actors.

You really don't understand the question?

Is there a difference between someone annoyed and someone in a rage to you?

VtM:B2 threads have nothing to do with measurements of peoples anger levels.

If idiotic behavior was enough to drive people in the opposite direction, I think a single visit to Yea Forums would be enough to convince most people to oppose Yea Forums on basically every issue

That dude is right, you're esl as fuck

VtM:B2 drew a huge shitstorm over their SJW pandering. They did not try to hide it or lie about it. They were completely honest.

>>Yes, they are. Skimpy costumes only exists to objectify woman and nothing else.

Even if that's the case, you don't get to tell people what to wear.

Do you think people have different levels of anger?
Do you assume people can grow more and more angry? Do you think people go from being calm, to murderous rage, with nothing in between?

is why i didnt give a fuck about that game

He sounds like some kind of Scandinavian or possibly German or something, he has those weird obtuse inflections with everything he says.

I don't see what that has to do with it. You're saying that people would be less angry if they were honest. VtM:B2 threads were full of far more anger than any of the MK ones. Nobody cares if they are 'honest about their intentions' or not, they just don't like SJW shit full-stop.

Anita was right all along

the comment isn't directed at those women you fucking moron, it's condemning the bi-polar easily offended vocal minority who can't decide if they're insulted or not.

>I don't see what that has to do with it.
That was my whole point and argument.

Recently a DEV made terrible decisions which pissed me off.
Then when people asked him about his reasons, he straight up lies about it, thinking he's gotten away with it.
I was even MORE angry.
(The fact people actually believed him only added salt to the wound further)

Now, in order for your statement about other people being MORE or LESS angry about VtM:B2 to hold any merit, requires proving something thats nearly impossible to prove.
You cant measure their anger about the SJW crap.
But if you could, take that, and now measure a difference if they are then lied to, versus told the truth about it.
Some people might have no difference in anger, and some might be even more/less angry.

W/O a way to measure it, there's no way to know. (Plus we're comparing two outcomes. It would be impossible to record both outcomes for measuring this.)

>What country are you from? Maybe we can help you out in your home language? There may be some bilingual anons who can help.
Why so high and mighty, you cock sucking failed abortion? How many langauges do you speak besides English, you assborn son of a single mother whore? You are a fucking low iq brainlet and I'm lmaoing@your stunted mental capacity, brainlet.

what nationality has this hairy sand monkey?

>Recently a DEV made terrible decisions which pissed me off.
>Then when people asked him about his reasons, he straight up lies about it, thinking he's gotten away with it.
>I was even MORE angry.

But this is just what you think, it's not how Yea Forums reacts or even the gaming community at large.

You're really not understanding this, I will try to make it as clear as I can but I'm only speaking English here. If you don't understand what I'm saying here then you need to go back and hit the books because your reading comprehension is off.

Mortal Kombat's devs 'lied' about their reasons for removing the revealing outfits, the reaction on Yea Forums hasn't been too strong.

VtM:B2 devs made no secrets about their inclusion of SJW shit and were very upfront about its inclusion, there were threads for days and people were up in arms.

MK Devs: Dishonest
Yea Forums Reaction: Mild

VtMB2 Devs: Honest
Yea Forums Reaction: Furious

Guys what if this user is actually Hitler's skeleton posting

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>How many langauges do you speak besides English
Only two, but one of them might be this user's mother tongue. Which languages do you speak? You might be able to assist.

idk about you, but i see more bitching about MK11 than vampire the masquerade, along with more threads every day as well.

I remember. It's a shame Rockstar didn't have the balls to tell them to go fuck themselves.

DC made them tone down Injustice 2.

Who the fuck is making them tone down MK?

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It's more likely some 17 year old kid from /pol/ pretending to be outraged. You know, the ol' "If I pretend as though the things I am politically opposed to are turning normal people into extremists then it gives me a free pass to advocate extremism and blame someone else for it".

They probably think this is super smart 4D chess and don't realize how retarded they look to everyone who can see right through it. I used to do this shit with trolling years ago, the only difference is that I didn't actually believe in the nonsense I was trying to tangle someone else up in and only did it for lols.

WB

Why did so many anons "upgrade" from for lols to extreme political ideologies and movements?
Why couldn't they just keep messing with everyone equally?
Who did this to them?

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I don't. Were you not here over the past few days?

Yes, of course you did. You have a sub 90IQ

For what purpose?
Surely sexy characters isn't more controversial than being able to brutalise women in ways that'd make Jack the Ripper blush.

E-sports pushing

Yes yes. The devs are cucks etc.
How's the beta? How do the characters in it play?

Having bikini fighters in your game can be considered sexist because their sexyness is seen as a commodity to appeal to a male audience exclusively. Making it a product for the men who play these games to consume. They would call it the objectification of women.

On top of that it is also belived that these type of content in games can make them less enjoyable by a non male audience. Making them sexist because it is designed to appeal to men only.

People who belive this would also defend that a women are indeed allowed to be sexy and express their sexiness, yes, but generally when a game has a sexy woman, it is not really her owning her sexuality, but rather the developers putting her on a platter for men to consume.

For clarification and a healthier discussion. Its not like i belive any of this or anything, haha

5 and there is no need to assist him at anything, you smug, overripe dick cheese. His English is perfectly comprehensible.

Not every user is created equal. Many of them feel wronged in some way and it gives them a chip on their shoulder. Some of them get blown off by a girl and go full incel, others have nothing in their life but videogames and get mad when minorities are included and go full /pol/. I think a lot of it is just down to outlook on life, I've spent most of my life playing videogames and watching anime too but I never grew up with some bizarre hatred for women, I generally get on pretty well with them. If games include things that I don't like, I don't buy them. I don't think of myself as being bigger or more important than the medium itself and there is always something else to play.

I didn't ask how many languages you spoke, I asked which ones. Glass houses and rocks, user - it seems like you're not in any position to lecture on reading comprehension.

2 people both said they thought he was ESL and couldn't understand him.

Mfw when seeing all the seething RetardEra cucks in this thread

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Mortal Kombat has never had sexy women.

What I'm getting from this is that it's not necessarily female characters having sex appeal that pisses feminists off; rather, the perceived lack of respect for these characters, which feminists identify as women first and foremost, evident through their design choices. The way MK11 has handled its costumes for the girls is almost a parody of modern trends at this point, but it speaks more about how little NRS cares about giving their characters any solid direction in terms of how they look. In other fighting games, any redesign still tries to capture the essence of their character. Mortal Kombat, however, has always had notoriously barebones characters, so they can afford to have superfluous redesigns with lots of wiggle room.
A character like Ivy is indivisible from her S&M-inspired getup because it reflects her dominating playstyle and its nuances. Every single redesign Ivy has gone through has the same skeleton and aims to reflect who she is and how she fights. The point of the character is that the opponent is humiliated as they're whipped into submission by a half-naked dyke - as a result, the backlash is inevitable, but it has nothing to do with respect for women, but whether or not her kinkiness is socially acceptable.
On the other hand, Sonya in MK9 is the same Sonya you see in MK11; an army girl, plain and simple. If they want to make her sexy, they can give her something revealing but military-themed. If they want to cover her up, they can do that too and still make her look military. NRS doesn't aim to represent the intricacies of their characters because there are little to none - they're just blank slates that you can change per the times. The current designs of characters such as Jade and Skarlet speak something of how the team behind them sees women. On that note, the fact it's usually the male feminists who clamour for modestly-designed women just goes to show that male feminists are sexual predators.

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why the fuck are the men not wearing shirts but the woman are reaching almost levels of Taliban approved?? these libs are fucking cunts

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I am glad you posted Nami but she is actually my gf so don't post her anymore

Yeah, well. You come across as a giant doodoohead,

Remove the shoulder pads and underboob armor and we might have a halfway decent costume.