Rights of 2 went to a noname studio with history of poor decisions and lying...

>upwards of $150 DLC
desu if they gave me third person so I could actually see my slut I'd spend way more than 150 dollars.

Devs arent at fault for instantly going for politics and doubling down. Are you retarded? Are you saying they couldnt do otherwise?

if they would have forced me to do it, I would have slit in single frames of vaginas and cocks and subtile artifacts and audio errors

You don't need to complain about how SJW it could be when the game absolutely will be shit with or without it.

Yeah, I stand above such things. I do not do what people tell me to do, if I think it is wrong.

Understand what you read. Problem is shit devs. SJW shit just provest it.

user, stop

White Wolf is now owned and controlled by Paradox - the developers are Paradox

The point is that the new edition is SJW - the developers are aware that around 80% of WW employees were fired for disagreeing with Paradox owning them

We're not in a game here - you want to try to keep your job user

whoa dude you're totally brad pitt in fight club XD

people complaining about v5 and all that trash in there can gtfo. it does not and will not have any narrative relevance.
bloodlines2 is mitsoda's baby, he wouldn't be part of the project if he didn't have full creative control.
read some old interviews with him, that's the one thing he values the most.

why didn't they get a better writer then?

I look forward to watching this board do a 180 when the games out. Praising it as the GOTYAY.

I'm afraid Avellone and Mitsoda are the best writers in the industry.

are you talking about cara? she's writing some 'MUH HUMAN STRUGGLES' sidequest

she still has to go through mitsoda's stamp of apprroval.

>Brian’s always really liked her work but mainly we wanted her to handle what we call the “U7”. The unsanctioned vampires that were created at the beginning of the game. We felt like her tone matches really well with the plight of vampires who are completely out on their own. They’re, ironically, very human stories, and that matched up with her style really well.

as for his comments on mental illness, he has mentioned the exact same thing in a 2010 interview where he said he wanted to make malkavians less 'lolrandom' and more interesting.

i think he did a fine job, but if you take his comments in that context he's just being critical of his work which any writer should be.

>writers in the industry
you know what I am writing about

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Did they change baja blast? I used to love that shit and now its just shit.

have you ever lost something?

What?

But Vampire: The Masquerade was always political.
>Camarilla is right
>Camarilla is controlled by Antediluvians
>Book of Nod is a lie
>the Traditions are bullshit
>I like pie
>uphold the Masquerade
>fuck you, you're a puppet of elder vampires
>no, you are
>no, we are
>let me be the king of the dead
>Jihad!
>pray to the Lord!
>humans are just a cattle for us

Even if a big studio is making the sequel, there's still zero chance that it could lived up to the original.

The sequel will failed regardless of any politics. Most anons already knew this.

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i think he's not talking about vampire politics

but he's wrong in any case. the tabletop was always a SJW thing.

there's some valid concerns since the lefties of the past had more self awareness and werent as insane as the modern left, but whatever.

using any material from v5 or whatever as 'evidence' is retarded since it has no bearing on the game aside from it being a reference for the setting

>people complaining about v5 and all that trash in there can gtfo.
Yeah right, the V5 writer confirmed the book plot and ruleset was developed along side Bloodlines 2, the fact you play as a thinblood already confirmed this.

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The original ain't even that good.

I just hope it's not some First Person Dying light clone with parkour and other bullshit because otherwise i'll go down in the street and kill the first person i meet

yeah, and?

mitsoda is doing his own thing, he won't listen to LARPers.

The original is one of the 5 best games ever created since videogames became reality

Name the other four.

Are you okay?

Deus Ex
Doom
Halo
Half Life 2

where do you live?

What makes any game good is subjective, but vtmb is unique. To make a continuation of anything unique required a crazy amount of efforts.

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Looking forward to the next game desu senpaitachi

That's because Paradox went full cuck and made sure it would be complete SJW trash.

Yeah, right.

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someone post the tranny muslim thing

Fucking lol

>During the trial you get a sense of a feud between some vampire clans and a fire is set off mid-trial, letting you escape while also killing some presumably important vampire figures at the same time. It sets up the main mystery of who created you and why, sending you off to make alliances and enemies of your own while learning the history of the vampire world.

Hmm.

Yeah, right. If you listened to the interviews Mitsoda wrote the plot before they even got the deal through.

Zoomer.

>blaming white wolf
White wolf died years ago, was propped up as Onyx Path and is now wholly owned and staffed by Paradox lmao it is in now way the same company in name, spirit, or works

Which one?

>if you see a player at your table bringing up alt-right talking points, we encourage you to shut that shit down.
They were brave to say this, right?

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wait is the tranny vampire from white wolf or from paradox?

From the board game

oh. I thought it was some kind of leak from the game

You're the one putting god damned Halo on a top 5 list, not me

I read the interviews, and nothing deny the use of V5 rules and metaplot.

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also this:

paraphrased:

>"How closely did you work with the tabletop retard SJWs?"

... in terms of setting it was very quickly established that this would be Brian's, Khai's(?), Cara's sandbox. ....and in terms of systems there was an opportunity for back and forth.

The only influence from the tabletop is how rules work, you know literally the same as the original.

I am convinced you people never played 1

there's a 10 minute gameplay interview, i'm sure you can find it if you don't believe me

>I don’t support immigration. Deal with it.
Good, sensible man.
>I fucking hate niggers and women and immigration. But during the Stone Age...
Cringe alt right cuck.

people spend all their time on Yea Forums baiting, go figure.
it's an excuse to start a vtmb thread I suppose.

Paradox, m80
The type of stupid shit White Wolf did was having mind raping powers or barbed dicks in your book for the lulz, generally unfriendly retarded shit. If white wolf wrote that passage it would go something along the lines of "If someone starts spouting extremism in whatever form, they'll probably get a lead pipe crammed up their ass sideways" or some shit like that as opposed to being niggers trying to thought police the table
Quite ironic considering I've played more world of darkness with nazis and retards like that than any kind of leftist dirtbag. They don't want to dirty their hands by getting gritty with a creative hobby, especially one that explores the nastiness of human nature and presumes at the outset that not only people are evil but you as a player character are twice the tragedy of a normal fuck
No spines and no brains in the lot of em, fucker's would rather sell a piss poor product with someone elses' names on it to make it look quality and run with the money

YASS QUEEN

What I wanna figure out is why Bruce Willis is in the game. Did they Embrace McClane?

on V5 team working with the bloodlines2 team:
(paraphrased)

>...we would have ideas for systems they would give us feedback. they would have ideas for systems we would integrate it.
one thing that was actually really good working with paradox was of not having to adhere too closely to the tabletop systems and being able to do things that make sense in a game as opposed to kind of being beholden to the specifics of the tabletop system.

makes sense, time to stop spasming out about rudi

have just started playing
brujah, currently my fists do loadsa damage, when will melee weapons start to outdamage my fists, if they do at all?

Until I see the disciplines list used in Bloodlines 2, I'm going to post my hate towards V5.

This. NWoD is absolute fucking garbage and anyone who says differently is a fucking moron. OWoD was abandoned due to the shit Gehenna metaplot coming to fruition - absolute cancer. They should have 40k’d that shit and just put the final nights on ice permanently as a setting for games.

Fuck. FUCK. Makes my god damn fucking balls ache.

I fucking hate this argument. No they wouldn’t you crazy cunt; there’s like three throw-away jokes in the game, notably from communists, about how Bush was a faggot. That’s it.

People make out like VtMB was fucking Wolenstein or something. It wasn’t. It never was. Stop this fucking gay bullshit and play the damn game you cuck.

you gotta go back to your containment board.

youtube.com/watch?v=_Ok-WIKoiWE

yeah I don't think hating on the rules portion of V5 is dumb, it's justified since it's the part most likely to end up in the game

that said they'll take liberties since it's a video game. haven't seen much of v5, but saw they merged some disciplines together which is dumb.

i dont see why they couldnt keep them apart in the video game tho.

Man, fists do aggregated damage if I recall correctly. If you invest blood points into melee they’ll fuck shit up throughout the game consistently. Not quite as powerful as a firearms build, but RIP AND TEAR is definitely viable.

both of those fags should shut the fuck up about their opinions on politics during their PnP sessions.

>Hating on Vigil
NWoD was cool.

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>Shills never address V5 ruleset hate
I wonder why.

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>implying you watched the whole video

Slasher was some good shit.

>implying your gay vampire bullshit was ever good
Trust Yea Forums to love a video GAME because of its fucking writing and not the actual gameplay.

I watched and she never commented on metaplot and discipline changes, nor the retcons, I liked her videos, but after the VTMB2 videos I realize she only doing this for money and studio attention.

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>being the best out of trash
What a accomplishment. Besides, these days whenever someone says Avellone is writing for a game it usually means he's doing one character so devs can say he's working on it to trick you fags into thinking he wrote the whole thing.

shouldn't we wait til the game comes out ?

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Are we sure they mean real world politics or the politics in the games clans/factions?

vampires don't give a fuck about human politics, however the game will be more inclusive, like that's somehow a bad thing. Both right wing and left wing faggots will feel included, but the right wing faggots won't play ball if the other team gets to play as well.

Thats what I intend to do. Look up the game myself and see what it's like after release and deciding if I should buy or not then. I'm not going to trust anything Yea Forums says, since it'll either be shills defending it or fags trying to shitpost it into oblivion, like I saw with far cry 5 and red dead.

fuck you i shouldn't have to play anything with left wing values then it's propaganda

it's about the in-game vampire politics you fucking alzheimer

somewhere i will get arrested for it but it will be worth it

So you didn't play the original?

all political speech is propaganda, also you are not special enough to get special treatment faggot.

>Runs on the Dying Light Engine
Rest in RIP.

Honestly this is what confuses me most about the costumes. Why bother with cosmetics if you (or anybody else since it's currently only listed as single player) never see your character

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I wasn't even talking about that. People would complain about the characters being too "diverse" or complain about the gay/bi characters.

This game had better not insult Donald Trump, so help me God...

It's a RPG about vampires. Why is everyone so concerned about politics?

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it's not though, the right is truth while the left is lies

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i don't have to play the original to know if this one is propaganda or not faggot i saw the same trailer as you

You do see your character, there are times when you are in third person and also the inventory screen.

Because the left are so butthurt about Trump, they’re actively using video games to indoctrinate us. We’re just being vigilant.

Ever mix 1/2 baja blast and 1/2 regular mtn dew? It turns radioactive, neon green and tastes pretty good.

>they’re actively using video games to indoctrinate us.

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The trailer wasn't what hinted at anything political, it was interviews with the devs. You could at least try and pretend to know what you're mad about.

Except all the free media and attention this no name studio is now getting.

youtube.com/watch?v=yOPv4o9Q8Cc

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One of the head writers is suppose to be the chick who got the rape scene in hotline miami 2 banned in aussie land.

I once lost my wallet at the mall :)

People here politics and assume they mean burger "politics", though in this case I'm waiting till after launch to pick it up or not since the game does have red flags about it, namely the sjw writer and thee fact they've shown no actual gameplay.

>characters being too ‘diverse’
Aside from Fat Larry and the Chink Vamps the cast is pretty much exclusively white, and the only LGBTIQBRAAAP character that immediately comes to mind is Misha, whonis a minor character who most people miss.

Explain yourself.

I could ignore a bit of SJewiness if the quality of the writing is up to par. DLC though. Its Paradox, they can't help themselves at this point, surely. 10000 dollar worth of DLC minimum.

Because vampire society is very politics heavy in VTM, and it would be so easy to try and make topical comparisons that will age the game like milk.

What a shitcunt. Bitch, if you don’t like it don’t play it. These fucking cunts ruining other people’s fun need to fuck off.

They’ve already confirmed that “extra clans”, whatever that means, will be micro(macro)DLCs. Classic Paradox nickel and diming bullshit is 100% confirmed.

i just want the left to stop poisoning media you never saw this shit with the right

every single female character you can flirt with will also flirt with you if you are a woman. Every single female in bloodlines 1 appears to be lgbt. Then we have Skelter, Rosa (appears to be Roma) and a whole chapter full of Asian characters

the right wing is responsible for most of media censorship throughout history because kids entertainment doesn't have enough jesus or family values or other vapid shit like that.

>you never saw this shit with the right
Nigga you should check up on your recent history or stop being so fucking stupid.

Not true. The left has always censored everything, the right is about freedom. Please stop your historical revisionism; it won’t work here.

recent history has been plagued with left wing censorship, when the hell has the right been guilty of it ?

>accusing me of historical revisionism
the fucking irony. Careful you don't poison yourself because the dose the irony dose is getting lethal.

Didn't you know? The reason gay people even EXIST is because vampires used to use their powers of vampiric seduction on unsuspecting clubbers, thus tricking them into thinking they were gay, when in reality they've all been hypnotized and entranced to dance at the tug of a string by their evil vampire overlords!

The Hays Code, perhaps?

>game is supposed to come out next year
>show a CGI cinematic with "NOT IN-GAME FOOTAGE" in the corner
That worries me immeasurably.

>hayes code

irrelevant, and the republican party was a leftist party in the 30s

I read it in his voice

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Yeah, but they only ever tried to ban or censor games, and mostly failed, from outside the videogame industry. Unlike the left, who are very much entrenched in the industry now. These days the right would probably only care if you tried to make another Manhunt, because the left are the ones bitching about tits and fanservice in games now. Watta world.

After 15 years of playing this game I never played as a female character, and I had no idea that these characters could be gay - but the fact they can be gay/bi if you happen to play as the same sex is a bit of a non-argument. If you play a straight character you’ll never know about their grey sexual orientations, again, with the exception of Misha who mentions in dialogue her partner is a woman.

And a whole chapter of Asian characters? Nigger, it’s set in China Town and the Chink Vamps are a thing in the lore. What the fuck. Do you have a sad knowing the Samedi are from the Caribbean too?

Ever heard of McCarthyism
faggots? Maybe you should google it.

you want recent history of right wing censorship in the US?

"If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend!" - President of the United States, Sept 2017

What about OUTSIDE the US? Here you go faggots:
theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/05/far-right-protesters-ransack-socialist-bookshop-bookmarks-in-london

I could keep going on and on listing examples, we'd be hare all day.

>Irrelevant
>Basically policed all media to rather strict conservative values in America for almost 30 years

movie makers were encouraged to tell the truth and promote traditional values i see nothing wrong with this

>Assemites are Middle Eastern?!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>And a whole chapter of Asian characters? Nigger, it’s set in China Town and the Chink Vamps are a thing in the lore. What the fuck. Do you have a sad knowing the Samedi are from the Caribbean too?

I don't follow what you are trying to say. You mentioned the game is not diverse, how is having a cheaper set in China Town not adding to the diversity? There are kuel-jin outside of chinatown as well.

>lazy coding
>fetishizing lesbians
Both done not out of the sake of having it there for the political weight
No one is saying remove niggers and fags from the games, but when a character exists exclusively to be a nigger or a fag and isn't just a joke unimportant npc AND ALSO doesn't integrate with the fucking setting then it's a problem. Take for example Skelter, you can imagine his character remade as some BLM dindu, and that can be fine as long as his character actually exists with purpose and believability as a vampire, you know, what the fucking game is about
It's when you have poorly executed trash like the mobile """games""" that there's an issue. It's not about telling a story of vampires mirroring our society and commentary through those means, it's a fucking power fantasy by some retard who wants to say "I want to exsanguinate every trump supporter" but lacks the resolve and will to actually go kill people so they muddy the waters of a game with their childish self-insert fantasy when some actual interesting storytelling could go on
You look at the tabletop and make a meme character, everyone's mildly upset but can deal. Make a meme character who then goes and hunts down YOUR not the character's but YOUR parents, authority figures, enemies, and people you just don't like and everyone will look at you in disgust and ask you to leave
We're looking at this in disgust.
And Paradox won't leave because they "own" the game now.

I'd recommend playing through as a female character if you're looking to squeeze every drop of content out of the game, some characters have gender-specific dialogue.

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Yes, haha.

based and redpilled

i just realized Yea Forums has only been shitting on lefty agendas and spooky SJW fag vampires

IS THERE A BIAS HERE?

Can’t do it, man. Feels weird. Dudes flirting with me isn’t my jam.

mccarthy isn't guilty of censoring on the contrary he only cracked down on people who wanted censorship in america and shitty sci fi writers that were KGB agents

>but when a character exists exclusively to be a nigger or a fag
Implying any of the characters will be that one dimensional. Didn't bother reading past that... faggot.

Yeah, didn't they say they've been working on it since Paradox acquired the right 2-3 years ago now? They should've had more than a private demo to show that tells us nothing because the opinions of games journalists are worthless.

McCarthy was just one guy who acted on his own, and no one cares about football on this board. Try harder, leftist soicuck numale bugman.

REAL FUCKING QUESTION
Why is there no SFM porn with all these hot as fuck models?

>bugman
first time I hear this one.

I’m saying it’s setting appropriate. If it was forced, like LaCroix, Beckett and Jack being forced token minorities just for the sake of having them as minorities I’d agree with you, but they’re not. The KueiJin being Chinks is exactly what they are, just like the Giovanni being Italian mobsters and the other clans having distinct themes. Complaining about the KueiJin being Chinks to prop up a diversity argument is like getting upset that Redguards in The Elder Scrolls are black.

based

the game came out too early for that. Last time I checked there is very little rule 34 for such a sexually liberal game. Maybe that's exactly why.

It’s our latest weapon against liberals. We’re stockpiling new buzzwords for the 2020 election.

I mean, a lot of the accusations McCarthy made were found to be kinda close to the mark in later years.

And yeah, I saw that article, then I went and looked up the video, they didn't "ransack" the place, they went in made some noise as a "protest", dumb, to be sure, but hardly a ransack. Then again, its the Guardian, so misleading bullshit is their standard.

Doesn't matter what /pol/ says I'm still hyped for the game. Also I played V5 there are maybe one or two irrelevant sjw characters in the rulebook but the metaplot doesn't concern sjw shit.

>First thing they do is make it political and sjw

Are you claiming Bloodlines, the game all about a political pissing match between the progressive left and the conservative right, was not political and SJW?

Vampire politics aren’t cancerous burger politics. They’re not one and the same.

There's plenty of stuff that predates SFM that has had their models ripped and fucked mercilessly, why not this one given everyone remembers it for sex appeal among many other reasons

imagine being so gamburger you see every conflict as left vs right

Metaplot is also absolute trash

That's exactly the kind of thinking I hope the writers avoid. I don't want any ham-fisted comparisons between whatever Camarilla Ventrue is in charge and evil Dongald Drumpf to show up. The game would age fucking terribly.

You think shit like the dumb college girl vampire advocating for communism in the game had nothing to do with 'burger politics"? You think all the blatantly anti-republican rhetoric throughout the game had nothing to do with "burger politics"? Make no mistake, Bloodlines was a very "burger politics" game and a left leaning one too.

>all the anti-republican rhetoric ;(
Three fucking one liners, nigger. THREE. You’ve got thin as fuck skin if some cartoon comic book communist/anarchist chipping “the man” upsets you. Holy shit.

That's fine, because at least you can tell Damsel she's a retard, and she's a minor character mostly involved in one or two sidequests. Player choice, please. I don't want my only responses to a gay orgy invite to be
>yes
>hell yes
>not right now thanks maybe later

>read some old interviews with him
And then you read some recent interviews and whoops turns out Malkavians probably won't be in

They only really do that with their own in-house games. As a publisher they're alright, just avoid buying their own games on launch.

What's up with lefties and their fucking, insatiable need to virtue signal and make everything revolve around their ideology?

the only thing I see about malkavians is devs trying to do more research about mental illness so the malkavians in that game aren't fishmalks like in both Bloodlines 1 and VtM: Redemption.

>Malkavs won’t be in
Nigga you best be joking

what's so bad about signaling your virtues to others? Shit, all of us do that in our own way.

Virtue signalling in the age of professional outrage and victim hood. They lead hollow, meaningless lives and only find worth in how many upvotes they can muster from perfunctory room-temperature tweets.

They'd be dumb not to, but then they did talk about changing the way they treat things like mental health, which might've been them saying all those "oh fuck a crazy malk" reactions characters gave when first meeting them were too un-PC for them now.

How many anti-democrat lines are there in the game? Don't pretend the game is not political or that it is not biased. It clearly is and there's nothing really wrong with that. I'm not "triggered" by any of this shit, I'm just not blind to it. You just don't want Bloodlines to be part of this crap because you like the game and the notion it's "tainted" by political bias upsets you. Well, too fucking bad.

Obviously a zoomer if you don't remember how the right was the most oppressive force against videogames before.
>muh violence in video games
>muh incivility
>muh nudity/porn
>muh children
>muh jesus
It's true that the left is doing worse now but no one should forget that the right did it too and it will do so again when it gets in power, like everybody else, because everyone wants to control this shit. Maybe only libertarians wouldn't but I wouldn't bet my money on it.

Talk for yourself. I don't feel the need to tell everyone how much of a good person I am, I simply do it through actions. Show, don't tell.

The problem comes when it's a constant neverending thing that invades every aspect of your life regardless of it's place at that moment in time.

I just hope I can dress my guy up in something reminiscent of this pinnacle of VtMB fashion.

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>anarchist characters take snide jabs at traditionalist vampires
Did you ever play the PnP WoD games? It’s all political manipulation and subterfuge. I just don’t understand why you’d choose that hill to die on. And it’s not biased at all; LaCroix has some choice words about what he thinks of the Anarchs. They fucking hate each other. The fact you take offence at Damsel being a dumbcunt and choose to target literally three lines of dialogue in the whole game as some type of overall left-leaning bias in the writing is garbage. I don’t think either of us will change our minds on this, so that is what it is. I disagree.

you are correct, I remember both LaCroix and Strauss shit talking about the anarchs. Tung too.

the original failed too It failed so hard it killed Troika and only got popular years later thanks to word of mouth. We still played it and loved it.

>I am still the smartest person at my job and look down upon them all.
You'll manage that McDonals some day

bloodlines1 didnt feature fishmalk, there's a lot of that sort of thing but mostly it's allegory, wordplay, or random references

>RPS: Did the malkavian player character pose any special problems for you?

>Mitsoda: I generally did it last, when there wasn’t a whole lot of time left. So between lack of sleep, being overworked, and possessing an unhealthy state-of-mind, the conditions were ideal for writing the Malkavians. The one thing I wanted to do with them is illustrate madness without it being completely Looney Tunes. It’s too easy to play crazy for laughs.
that said, yes that's exactly what mitsoda wants. he mentions the exact same thing in old interview.

The first one is a masculine power fantasy.

game was left leaning, and made by leftist company.

but don't pretend like it wouldn't trigger every SJW if it got released today.

really tells you everything you need to know. the leftists of the past were self aware, and while there's some bias it's ultimately the player's choice that matters and is respected.

it totally is a fishmalk, it's a goofy unrealistic portrayal of mental illness, exactly what a fishmalk is.

>>anarchist characters take snide jabs at traditionalist vampires
That is not what I'm talking about and you know it. The anti-republican jabs have nothing to do with vampires or their politics, they are just cheap shots thrown in there. To borrow Yea Forums's vernacular for this sort of thing, it's "forced". Why, for example, can the player character chose to refer to republicans as terrible monsters but has no option to do the same for democrats? Because the game was obviously written by democrat supporters and that sensibility permeates through the entire game. Again, there's nothing wrong this. Video games have always been left leaning, like almost all western media, so it's not exactly a shock that Bloodlines is too.

>And it’s not biased at all; LaCroix has some choice words about what he thinks of the Anarchs.
You cannot be serious. The Anarchs absolutely get a more favorable portrayal in the game.

>The only LGBT character is Misha
>Who the fuck is Jeanette, one of the most recognizable characters from the series

inb4 "b-buh-but she's a slut so she doesn't count!!!"

yea it's unrealistic and lots of jokes are played, just like the rest of the game.

you saying you want a realistic depiction of mental illness and that's something to strive for?
yea really can't wait to be a shutin together with Dale and not get off the couch, epic hype.

You can thank identity politics for this shit. I can't even recognize the supposed modern left as leftist anymore. They're just regressives proclaiming to be the opposite.

yeah, a realistic insane vampire would be great

Fucking zoomer kys

"i voted republican" and a snarky comment about bush administration being a cabal of monsters or something. also a political ad parody, mostly targeting republicans

I think the only thing that aged well is the political ad thing, but mostly because there's more effort put into it and it's something that's spread throughout the game.

anyway, the way it goes is like this. player>anarchs/strauss>whatever

i don't care about potential SJW agendas in bloodlines2 as long as the player stays #1

>Aside from Fat Larry and the Chink Vamps the cast is pretty much exclusively white

The "conservative" vampire groups are all white. The Anarchs are shown to be ethnically diverse with white, black and hispanic members. That is not an accident.

LA was an anarch town at the time with the Camarilla trying to get a foothold and basically failing because the Camarilla are fucking failures in the New World. Because fuck the Venture Carthage will rise again and those garlic-munching spaghetti slurpers will fall before the True Brujah.

This is some peak muttposting with absolutely no understanding of politics
This is equally retarded as Mccarthy was proven right

saw this youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0qQlCfTYU

tfw I wanted to play as a Malk but couldn't get over the "just fuck my shit up" hairstyle

>Cluney, when talking about the themes of Bloodlines 2, mentioned, “Seattle has been having this struggle over the last few years, decade really, between what the tradition of what the city is and its roots versus whats been coming in lately with tech and money and everything else.” It’s not hard to connect that sentiment to the invasion of Amazon and other tech companies into the city in the past decades and their continued attempts to influence policy.

>Amazon delivery guy in charge of piloting a drone notices a guy getting carried by bats
The masquerade is real and that's why Amazon got kicked out

>Mccarthy was proven right
kys

He kind of was. There really were secret communist groups in America working to undermine the republic. Most of the crap McCarthy is blamed for, e.g. the Hollywood blacklist, he had little to do with. That was the general public. They hated communists too. McCarthy was mostly interested in uncovering people doing real shit like espionage and sabotage and those people did exist.

A few SFMs of Jeanette were created when SFM first started producing porn but they were shit. VtMB characters have been scarce since.

>if you disagree it's because you're le butthurt xD ;^)
or, you know, that he doesn't agree with you

Playing through original now. Just about to go to the olive nigger’s mansion. Only thing I’ve been somewhat blown away by story wise was jeanette. Stealth mechanics are actually pretty good, but stealth sequences themselves drag on way too long.
I’ve seen the trailer for the new one though and the combat looks pretty interesting. Interesting enough that I almost don’t care about the story.

I'm at the museum and it's starting to get a bit boring.

anyone watched the new interview? a couple of new things mentioned.

apparently cara wants to make every NPC romanceable, but she said it in a joking manner so not sure if serious.

mitsoda just looking spooked.

So, they're just like Troika, who literally died after 3 games, whom only 2 are liked, despite their massive bugs and rushed developments?

anyone got the picture of the tranny nazi vampire from one of the boardgames?

whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Totentanz_(VTM)

There was that blackula in the Last Round. The sheriff was a blackula. Half the nosferatu were black before they were turned.

from a gameplay and technical standpoint temple of elemental evil is troika's best game. their implementation of D&D rules in video game format hasn't been matched yet.

troika made 3 games, all cult classics. all financial flops.

sign of times

Just finished Santa Monica Hotel. It was more spooky than most horror games I've played. Also, fuck Janette, condemning the female ghost to eternal torment.

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get woke go broke
I'll enjoy watching another trash fire westcuck game flop from Yea Forums as usual

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yeah, fuck jeanette

I no wonder Mitsoda looks spooked, yikes.

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>Also, fuck Janette, condemning the female ghost to eternal torment.
He actually gave the locket to Janette. All point and laugh at this faggot.

I should of reloaded save.. Nah, fuck playing like that.

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No one made the dev make this game. Sure, they may be the bottom in the relationship, but they're doing it willingly and with eyes open.

I stand by my decision. I don't care about ghosts.

>Also, fuck Janette, condemning the female ghost to eternal torment.
You fucked that one up, not her.

>it could lived up to the original
being a buggy mess?

Yeah, but she made me give it to her..

you could refuse as she didn't give you the quest to go and get it.

thanks i was starting to think it was from a fever dream

Should I take the money from the charity box? My humanity is currently max.

>combat in a prerendered trailer looks good
wow, who would have thought?

Same. My second play throughs are women if I’m going to do it at all. The only man I’ve ever romanced if I had any other option was Garrus. I think most everyone here is gay for him IRL anyways.

...no she didn't.

Fragile.

She seduced me.. it's all her fault.

Humanity is easy as fuck to get it back. Gank that shit.

But more importantly, you can fish dialogue options out of Jeanette to get her to admit it's dirty money anyway.

Mall avians are officially confirmed for VtM:B2

What do I need to level to get the dialogue?

both the humanity loss and the cash gained are negligible. Also protip: you can get humanity back by dancing for several minutes without stopping once per nightclub.

Dicklet. She doesn't even stay mad at you if you refuse to give it to her. And you just broke down anyway.

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That I unfortunately do not remember.

Thanks, I didn't know that.

most likely persuasion. It's by far the most useful conversation stat.

> Players no longer assign attribute points to determine their abilities; instead, you are capable of handling any weapon you come across. In the demo this included a shotgun and pipe to take out a few enemies who were set on killing you.

WTF. Fuck Rudi honestly if he weren't a sjw tranny muslim antifa none of this would've happened.

I hope the new game won't have loading screens between every fucking location

souce?

If it's hub based, I would expect loading between hubs but not necessarily buildings.

a preview article on dualshockers.

I find that comment weird since mitsoda said on twitter there's a character sheet, and specifically a firearms skill.

Neither money or humanity is much of a big deal. The only thing for which replenishment is relatively rare is the masquerade.

reminder that ideologues should kill themselves

you shouldn't need those anyway, unless you are bad at being a vampire.

>She doesn't even stay mad at you if you refuse to give it to her.

It's part of what determines whether Therese or Jeanette is the one behind the ambush at the diner so yes, she does stay mad at you.

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How did they make it "political and sjw"? The inclusion of gender pronoun options doesn't do this, because it's a vampire goth gangland setting, so of course decadence will be represented in it.

so given the answer they're removing skill specialization as far as equipment is concerned? idk weird, bloodlines1 you could always use guns, swords, sledgehammers, whatever. you were just shitty at it without skills

also doesn't mitsoda contradict that answer? pic related

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there's 2 camps of people i've seen. one is the alt-right full retard who got triggered because of pronouns, kotaku writer, some dev comments, etc.

the other is people being worried they'll push a certain type of ideology throughout the game which you can't contest. since in bloodlines1 you could always reject any bullshit, going solo was in a way the best.

user, they haven't actually played the first game or are familiar with the tabletop at all. They saw a new game to latch on and started shitposting.

Those answers don't seem contradictory, but I am confused at how the player progression works right now.

Didn't really help they were full of actual game breaking bugs, like that big in the dwarven mines in Arcanum literally stopping you from ever progressing the story line, and that's fortunately early game. Then there's the bug with buying a ship never counts to "owning" it in this can't be used late game, killing the progression too. And in Vamp there was the exit bug leaving the Chinese theatre making you stuck there

Hopefully they mean shit like having to use no clip periodically to get myself out of the fucking ground when I sink for no reason because the collision is ass.

>but I am confused at how the player progression works right now.
Maybe that's why there's two character creation scenes. Not for the pronouns, but for something else.

Maybe during the "human" stage, you choose whether to spec in firearms/knives/hammers/fisticuffs, and in the vampire stage that's where you choose to upgrade which discipline etc.

What the FUCK do you have against anarchs and mages?

>Maybe during the "human" stage, you choose whether to spec in firearms/knives/hammers/fisticuffs, and in the vampire stage that's where you choose to upgrade which discipline etc.
If this is true, I like how that sounds. Anything to give your character more background before you became a vampire.

The ghosts eternal torment is a sacrifice I'm willing to make to have terrible blood sex with Jeannete

damn, that's a night mare. Glad that didn't happen to me yet :O

What if I told you that you don't need to give her the locket to have sex with her?

The absolute state of you virgins.

man the marketing material of vtmb2 is so fucking bad. This is how a great game looks

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The new trailer is awesome though.

yeah, when I played bloodlines on release I got stuck at some place in society of leopold, I think it was on the boat?

the vanilla version of the game was even worse than new vegas on release.

>Yea Forums thinks they matter and that most people believe the retarded shit they believe

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is that just before you shank her? how could you user

boris is not a slavbro

Yeah, that was the unavoidable game breaking bug in the released version of the game. The funny thing is it wasn't in the version that was supposed to be released. Troika, in their infinite capacity to fuck up, sent the wrong build of the game for duplication.

>Three fucking one liners, nigger. THREE.
That were the kind of shitty boomer tier ‘jokes’ you’d expect from something like SNL at that

>You’ve got thin as fuck skin
Are you stupid? He's arguing it was always always political, so you have no right to be upset about this shitshow if you're a "true fan", because those offhand jokes are totally the same as shit preachy, dogmatic horseshit

what preachy shit are you dealing with from this game we have not played

>everyone claiming that basing in on 5E suddenly makes it SJW
It's amazing how many people suddenly have opinions on this. Did you all play your first campaign this past weekend? WoD has always, always been """SJW""" if your standard for that is discussing things like minority rights, trans, etc. Always, and the community has mostly been run by the _exact_ sort of people you'd associate with roleplaying a dark, gothic vampire setting.

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What is the worst club song and why is it the Confession one

I don't think they're about to suddenly get original now, after all this time
same shit that's been in every SJW fiasco

Would you be able to provide an answer to my question?

you are deranged

It's also interesting because the tabletop has taken a lot of inspiration from the same groups these idiots complain about

Yes, I did.

>and why is it the Confession one

You have objectively shit taste. While far from being one of Ministry's best, and mostly just being a rehash of the much better song So What, it's not even close to the worst club song in the game. It's the fucking second best in the game.

So you don't have an example of what's preachy in Bloodlines 2?

Were you born this stupid or are you just acting?
Do you have an example of anything that's in this last bout of IP deicides?

Alright, so since you couldn't list one (1) example, I'm giving you your last (You) of the day. Happy shitposting, brother!

And you couldn't list one single thing that's in the game.
Not a big surprise, for obvious reasons.

worst case scenario: progression is skyrim tier

That's a pretty shitty scenario.

can someone give some examples of malkavian PC being a fishmalk?

inb4 stop sign and tvreporter which are a classic, anything else?

you mean this? youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0qQlCfTYU&t=2s

>the other is people being worried they'll push a certain type of ideology throughout the game which you can't contest.
This will suck if it's at the detriment of the roleplaying system, but let's be honest. Every game, even the first VtMB, pushes an ideology that can't be contested somewhere in the background, no matter how many open decisions are given to the player. Doing this isn't a bad thing when you're just creating optional entertainment for people. I just hope the writing is competent and it isn't boring to play.

yeah. mitsoda looks very uncomfortable, like he doesn't wanna be there.

the dev on the discord said he hates media attention, might explain why he hasn't been on twitter for the last 10 years.

Leopold is a good name for a turtle!

Would unironically mail parts of myself to Paradox.

>Every game, even the first VtMB, pushes an ideology that can't be contested somewhere in the background

I mean sure, that's true for books and movies as well. I think the difference is if you do it consciously or not.

Best example I can think of is LotR, Tolkien denied any allegory or commentary--multiple times and specifically called out examples. But you'll still find lots of shit that(probably) stems from his experiences as a soldier and a lover of the british countryside.

>if only you knew how bad things really were

I am honored.

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The malkavian pc does have a few wacky lines that people like to focus on, but for the most part I'd say it focuses on the prophet angle of being a malkavian.

Still worth fag. That's what she gets for getting murdered by her shitty husband. Like watch the shining lmoa?

I want the original story+ fixed combat+ enchanced models and gameworld + textures + side stories
Is this so wrong?

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Stop talking about piece of shit Yea Forums
STOP.

at least 33% of their dialogue options. Pick a dialogue at random and you'll see.

There's usually some dialogue option that could be considered a "fishmalk" reply.

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Don't open it

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I could go on, but i'll stop here so I don't spam the thread.

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that's referencing the literal dinosaur you find, not a fishmalk response.

none of those are particularly "lolrandom". All of them could be seen as descriptive of the PC in some form or fashion, especially if you consider that overall this particular malk is poetic and speaks in allegory most of the time.
the only one that fits 'fishmalk' there is the third option, all other can have alternative meaning befitting the insight part of malks.
can't decipher the first two, third one has meaning.

idk, feels like people just say 'fishmalk' because they don't understand some shit. most of the time the options aren't really random but are referencing something specific.

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>PC Malkavian is the only fishmalk
Why couldn't they follow through as they did with the other portrayals of Malkavians in VTMB?

>6 clans available at release
>more will be added later via free DLC/patches
How many are they going for here though? 13? Will bloodlines be added too? This kind of thing worries me in the sense that the additions of Clans won't really matter all that much and we won't be getting unique Disciplines per Clan.

insane people don't talk like that, not even children talk like that. I actually like the Bloodlines Malkavian but acting that way is a pretty fishmalk way to act.

>wanting to be Sabbat
edgelord

NO, YOU STOP!

Even funnier considering Yea Forums on average hated Bush too. Hell half the truther memes was the Bush dynasty doing it to secure the reelection.
But gotta rewrite history so it appears "we" always were in the right.

Playing Sabbat can be done well, just because you think everything about the Sabbat is like the average shovelhead or Andre doesn't mean it's right.

is the PC malkavian a representative of all insane people?

if the PC were written like any other malk in the game, the experience wouldn't be half as memorable. most of the fun is deciphering wtf are you even saying.

3/4 of the time the dialogue is just purple prose dressed in metaphor. it's exaggerated but it's written well and it works

imagine if you tune down the stereotypes and exaggeration of the game, you'll end up with boring characters.

Which one do you think is the worst

Then maybe I've just been in a bunch of shit campaigns, because I've never seen the Sabbat done in a non-edgelord manner.

Is paradox doing the actual development or just publishing? Do they even have the know-how to do this kind of game? I thought they only did grand strategy and 4X.

I'd be surprised if they completed the Clans. Even more if they added the former Clans. Even more if they added Bloodlines

Stop being such an enormous pussy.

>is the PC malkavian a representative of all insane people?

>imagine if you tune down the stereotypes and exaggeration of the game, you'll end up with boring characters.

no, as the only other malkavians in the game are not fishmalks, but if you told me they are uninteresting I think you'd be lying. You can have your character get a predetermined mental disease that's more realistic like the split personality of daughters of Janus or Grouts obsession with old timey medicine. I am certain that can be very interesting. Granted you won't be able to choose your own derangement and roleplay it as that would imply ridiculous amount of writing.

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Hardsuit Labs does the actual development. Or they do most of the heavy lifting while Paradox probably lends whoever has enough know-how to HL. Either way, it's Hardsuit Labs.

>I've never seen the Sabbat done in a non-edgelord manner.
that defeats the purpose

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>What's up with lefties and their fucking, insatiable need to virtue signal and make everything revolve around their ideology?
People on the right do the same shit, they're even more honest and loud about it than the left, the difference is that media corps won't allow them to broadcast their shit as much as they allow the cancerous left to. Less marketable to allow someone to say "I hate Jews" than "I hate fascists". If Gab, Stormfront and /pol/'s views were allowed to be mainstream then that text would just be "Communism in play"

Hasn't it always been political tho?

>replying to yourself, deleting it and then switching IPs so it looks like someone else agrees with you

I can't read Portuguese, pally.

neither can I, but I remember that text being super edgy. It's about sabbath toreadors making clothing lines out of flayed humans and artwork out of their body fluids and shit like that, because they have a compulsion to be cruel.

The deleted post was the first post by my IP ITT as well.

I deleted it because I said "I'm a fascists" before, which is an extraordinarily retarded sounding typo.

they're not fishmalks because we're not roleplaying them, how would you think it would look like if the PC had a split personality? and hell, grout also speaks in a somewhat purple-prose, though it's more leaning towards the antiquated speech given his background.

grout/voerman's derangement is explored exposition and some environment storytelling, you can't really do that with the PC.

if the main way you can express a malk's derangement is through dialogue, then what we got in bloodlines1 is hard to outdo. you can still argue that the dialogue was "too crazy" and that they can tune it down, but my point stands--that will make it less memorable/boring. which extreme is worse, the one that goes too far into what it means to be a malkavian, or the one that goes the opposite direction?

fuck, lemme find the English version. I didn't even read before posting, just assumed it's in English glancing at the drawing.

here you go: epdf.tips/queue/guide-to-the-sabbat-vampire-the-masquerade.html

it's page 71 and 72 in the PDF or page 76 and 77 if you look at the actual page numbers.

>If VtMB was new today people would cry about it being political and SJW. That's just how the setting is.
not fucking really since you always have the option of telling the anarchs to fuck off
now if the everything worked out in favor of them and the plot would try to reinforce how they are the REAL good guys no matter what choices you made that would be a different story

>not fucking really since you always have the option of telling the anarchs to fuck off
you're assuming you wouldn't be able to in the new game also. Meh, at least wait before getting so worked up.

willing to be money that you will be able to be pro-cammie and fuck with anarchs in the sequel as well

vampirism is a step between life and death. human beings can choose God or satan. I think it's fair to assume that if you become a vampire then you chose satan. vampires seem to be a more radical version of what they were in life. the patterns that they held in their satanic existence are amplified in undeath. Could a vampire find God? I don't think so, because a vampire doesn't choose. He or she keeps their old patterns and adds bloodthirst and monstrosity to it. Possibly, but I imagine you're already past that when you become a vampire. In that case no vampire has meaningfull free will, because they can not choose God. And in that case vampire "society" is no more "society" than what streetdogs share.

Christian mythology in WoD is a bit different. Satan is against god, but he probably doesn't like vampires either as he rebelled against god trying to make humans more independent and capable than god wanted. Also vampires can find god in a sense, unless he fucked off from our universe like some stories imply. There are plenty of christian vampires, especially in the middle ages.

whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Golconda_(VTM)

Yes. The food coloring they were using was a terrible idea to drink in gamer mountain dew quantities.

If the devs had come out talking about VAMPIRE politics, it would be a different story. We know more about the gender options for nonbinaries than we do about the fucking Sabbat, or the second inquisiton, or even the fucking Camarilla for that matter.

>you're assuming you wouldn't be able to in the new game also
I sincerely hope that won't be the case and that the writers will be smarter than that
at best a few dialogue lines or sub quests here and there even if it's full on "bash the fash" isn't going to hurt but fuck me if they decide to turn the overarching plot into some progressive wet fantasy

yeah, the first game had a particular issue. it had to make lacroix the 'bad guy' in any case since he had to use dominate on you--he was a very smart way of railroading the player

i mean without lacroix dominating you, how can you explain the PC just not being able to say fuck off and not being a part of any bullshit.

>Another /pol/tard salt thread
the free entertainment yous provide is getting more and more frequent

>VtMB shits on Bush and Republicans regularly while never shitting on Democrats
>no one cares
>Source material VtMB was based on has a female black, lesbian Muslim vampire so badass she convinced the Assamites to change their "no women allowed" policy
>no one cares
>VtMB literally features a faction with a woke Che-Guevara wannabe commie grill led by a hispanic who lived during the Great Depression fighting against the objectively evil wealthy elite LaCroix, while Strauss is basically a non-entity
>no one cares
>Mitsoda says one of the themes of the game will be technology vs tradition
>RUH ROH, BETTER CRY AND WHINE ABOUT IN ON Yea Forums
The devs even said that Rudi isn't even going to be in the game, why does /pol/v always look for shit to bitch about?

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>preorder bonus Sarcophagus table
so you will be able to customize your apartment?cool

What else are they supposed to do, play video games?

but will it have working mirrors?

The one copypastaed? From paradox v5 era.

Transexuals have been in the game since the 90s. But it's not like some vamp from 900 AD hanging on to the scraps of his humanity is going to give much of a fuck about the mental illness of his cattle, beyond having another means to exploit them.

I mean the Tzimsce can give people perfect SRS surgery, if they feel like it ,and that shit's been around since before second edition. Of course the Tzimsce are literally hellraiser fleshcrafters who see the rainbow dick covered gay pride fest guy as something to try with actual dicks.

The best is people compaining about the SJW writers, including Mitsoda. Like if you hate is work, why do you care about vtmb 2? I wish Anderson and Boyarsky were on the project, and having Obsidian do it since they are basically Troika 2.0 at this point. But having the same lead writer from the first game is hardly a valid complaint. And Avellone might as wel be invovled since t is not Obsidian and he is a god tier writer.

okay where the fuck can you find the 5e pdf, I want to read that trainwreck
I already looked through /tg/

You won't find it on /tg/ because someone at WW lurks there and keeps reporting it. Your best bet is if that one user comes back with his link.

I believe it was a muslim tranny. it's the combo of muslim, tranny and vampire which is taking it a bit far. but I never read it, so it might just be people talking shit.

that would sound a bit ridiculous if this wasn't World of Darkness. Religious lore is different and vampires don't give a fuck about human norms and social rules.

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if they implement that kind of thing in the game I'd think they might get charlie hebdo'd. game or no game, Islam is Islam.

what if they make it into a conservative wet fantasy?

maybe, but then again maybe not as ISIS is kaput. Also no one should give in to extremists threats or they win.

based

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We should reserve judgment until the shit is released. Or in this case, after the dlc that makes this shit playable is out, because fucking Paradox.

Commenting on the shit they're focusing on is fair game...and it turns out it's heavily real world politics.

The shit they're talking about so far is 100 percent real world politics. Vamprie politics would be anaraachs vs Camarilla vs Sabbat, the opinions of Caine, cellphone usage. The technocracy, the second inquisition. The structure of power in the city.

Shit like whether the muslim assamites are in the camarilla, or whether the gangrel are out of it would be vamp politics.

The pnp game had neo nazi camarilla bruja player characters. I can't imagine them going anywhere close to that.

Shut the fuck up

they win when they kill kufar too

I'd rather have it NOT be any kind of american bipartisan political wet fantasy
rest of the world doesn't actually care about that shitfest and find it distracting from the mediocre entertainment they produce

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"This is a game about monsters. But it is only a game. Don't use it as an excuse to be a monster yourself." Is the gayest shit I have ever seen. Isn't that like the entire point of role playing??? So what, you can't be evil in this game??
Dungeons and Dragons is better. At least there I can do all types of fun evil shit.

have sex

The pen and paper company went full retard. And I mean dilplomatic incident retard. And hiring pedophiles to write books apologizing for pedos retard.

Also politics have been part of the game all around. And one of the core writers is an infamous dipshit.

the worst part about that isn't the combo, it's the atrocious writing

then again I feel like WW has always had fan-fic tier writing. they made an amazing fucking setting but when you read most of the shit in their books it's kinda meh.

probably coz they were jews, i've heard from friends that they're one of the worst offenders when it comes to paying well to freelancers. they'd pay like $50 for illustrations and shit, that's even worse than fantasy flight games, lma o

You need to get laid.

it's ok to roleplay an evil/hateful fuck, it's not ok to actually act out that way in real life. That's the message I got.

I wouldn't say NEVER If the christfags ever got back into power, it would be ban city again.

Maybe if you count Stalin and Mao as right wing. Otherwise you'e out of your fucking mind.

I'm pretty sure I've read in an interview or a twitter post or somewhere that politics will be about vampires but could be metaphorical with our real world. So it'll be like X-Men, where they're metaphor to black people, gays or whatever repressed minority anyone wants. Like Xavier vs. Magneto.

>Chink Vamps are a thing in the lore
...actually they're taking them out sort of in v5 for being problematic.

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They're the earliest source engine models. They'd really need to be retextured to look good. It would probably be faster to remake them entirely.

>ranting about communists in 2010s
just how much of a boomer do you need to be

I'd rather post there, then on this cesspool of a website.

>Taking Rageaholic seriously
yeah, I ain't gonna give that fag my time of day. Can't believe I used to actually like that faggot around 8 years ago or so.

They have said that they want to handle Malkavians carefully, as to be respectful to people with actual mental illnesses. Considering how expensive the malk pc dialog writing is, it might not be in.
Considering paradox's track record, maybe dlc.

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i mean that cesspool is no different than this cesspool

is there any cesspool that's actually a nice place to discuss this game?

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not even inside your own head. I bet that place is fucked up and flowing with all kinds of issues and suppressed desires.

youtube.com/watch?v=D-UmfqFjpl0

what level of firearms should be enough to finish the game? I'm at 7 and want to level hacking and intimidate instead. hacking because it's fun, intimidate because it fits my rp

7 sounds fine, you can probably finish no problem if you get some of the more damaging guns, which you probably will once you finish Society of Leopold.

well if you can get it to 10 your guns become recoilless laser pointers.

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If I don't get to mod it and fool around with noclip and shit I don't give a fuck

I dunno, I'm just linking random shit now, I don't care
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that does sound kind of fun in its own way

I didn't watch either of these videos and I never will

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7 is enough, even 5 or 6 is plenty

>but he's wrong in any case. the tabletop was always a SJW thing.
Been playing WoD since the mid 90s and no, no it was not. You're close because it always tended to glorify "counter culture" or "the minority paradigm" and up and until the last 6 years, what you would call 'SJW' was fringe, counter culture stuff.
PS Mage: The Ascension is the best tabletop you can ever play.

that's cool

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No way fag. Bruja belongs to the Antfa now!

ceterum autem censeo Carthaginem esse delendam

Having played Cara's game, where you slut it up everwhere EXCEPT with married men, it's not suprising. In fact, if Cara focuses on slutting up EVERYTHING and lays off too much politics, I think would be the best approach.

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Artist?

if you're going guns, you might as well max it
AUG and Anaconda are the only guns you'll need
that and flamethrower for endgame
while intimidate might be good for RP there will be literally 0 intimidate dialogue options after Hollywood that matter or get you anything, in fact only persuasion does anything at fucking all (and you'll need 8-10 in seduction to get girls in chinatown but really you can just go in the brothel and feed for free)
also I might be wrong but if I remember correctly there isn't a single thing that requires more than 8 hacking in the entire game

>I mean the Tzimsce can give people perfect SRS surgery, if they feel like it ,and that shit's been around since before second edition. Of course the Tzimsce are literally hellraiser fleshcrafters who see the rainbow dick covered gay pride fest guy as something to try with actual dicks.
I don't know about the latest versions but there are certain Toreador that can get 2 points in Vicissitude too.

Those guys are a new addition in V5.

It's been 5 years since they got trolled on the internet for being faggots and they're still whining about it

i'm actually not opposed to her writing the thin blood subplot, seems like a good fit for a SJW.

of course you need someone to temper that, and mitsoda's the best guy. everything has to go through him, it might end up great. at least i'm hopeful.

is it just me or do the heads on these character models look way to big ?
i do hope its just bcs these are stand in dummies

Explain yourself fellow user.

I've been doing well on 5 but I'm about to do the sewers and I decided to be safe

btw is it even possible to defend against the zombies in hollywood? didn't seem doable so I reloaded and god him a hooker instead. But I have this memory from way back when that i managed it with a melee character. maybe I had celerity idk

LOOL still bitching after all these years. Eat a dick.

>for some reason the book designer decided to separate the layout into three columns making reading it an absolute pain in the ass
what in the unholy fuck?

>Bruja belongs to the Antfa now!
is it fair to say that every clan relates to one kind of degeneracy or another? tremere is the hardest to put my finger on, but mad scientist playing god probably counts

maybe gangrel doesn't? I don't think they're furries per se, and I can't relate their thing to a, for lack of a better word, problematic human behavior

mad science Illuminati authoritarians.

>there will be literally 0 intimidate dialogue options after Hollywood that matter or get you anything
ah, well that's good to know. specifically what popped up in my head was "it would be fucking cool to intimidate lacroix". I do have max persuasion though, that was the main goal of the run. so far... I expected more, but it's still fun.
I think maybe the tremere primogens computer had 9 but I'm not sure

Tremere is scholastic college nerds who never make friends or try to identify themselves.

Kinda sad desu.

>given free reign
White Wolf used to be able afford copy editors.

aren't most gangrel social outcasts, loners, hermits, etc.?.

butt sniffers

Same.

WoD was never for you, sweetie

Right, the point is, mastering the physical form in that way is as common in the WOD as mages casting ice storm. So that trans vamp from the interviews sounded as riddiculous as a vegan vampire.

A certain amount of "thin blood neonates fight the power strucuture of the rich white camarilla" is to be expected, but this could get really stupid really fast.

OMG SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FUCKING GAY
YEAH THATS RIGHT I CALLED YOU GAY YOU FUCMING GAY AJHHHHHHH!!11!

>btw is it even possible to defend against the zombies in hollywood?
Yes, you just have to run back and forth clearing each gate, don't try to kill every zombie. And go for headshots, zombies take bonus damage from headshots and go down in one hit.

never kill zombies in the middle of the graveyard while running between gates. Every zombie you kill instantly spawns another one somewhere else in the graveyard. Also don't linger more than like 20 seconds at each gate before running to the other one.

>is it fair to say that every clan relates to one kind of degeneracy or another?
I'd go one farther and say that EVERY form of degeneracy is represented. Even sexual predators have their own book, written by a child rapist. He of course called it a "metaphor for being LGBT", but they didn't buy it.

Gangrel would be bestiality, autistic loners who can't abide by the man, furries. Being animalistic.

Tremere actually used to be a mage clan. It's a pyramid scheme, power for it's own sake. Super rigid social structures. Go look up what they used to be like in Ars Magica. It's kind of a hoot.

Yeah you tell that alt-righter! Fascists can fuck off!

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well whatever happens, it's going to be on mitsoda. he's the narrative lead.

also, I think it's been said that we start off as thin bloods, mitsoda mentions that we'll have even a lower standing than in bloodlines1--and in that game you're basically everyone's bitch. by the end you're one of the most powerful vampires.

pretty sure that theme is going to carry over to bloodlines2, as it's one of the central things of the previous game.

How bigoted. You should be more inclusive.

>by the end you're one of the most powerful vampires.
Sounds dumb. Sounds like.....A MASCULINE POWER FANTASY

you know what I don't get about Rudi is that female kindred have always wielded plenty of power.
Elders if anything are more likely to dismiss gender entirely as a mortal concern.

It's a funny thing, they're putting shit in that would be crazy fishmalkavians in v2.

Well, it's an RPG convention to gain power like that. We'll just have to see how it works.

I know you're ironic, but they can indeed fuck off.

>righties spend their entire lives building a society that excludes folk they don't like
>a game is made that isn't specifically aimed at their fantasy whiteworld
>blows up for days
I can't even imagine this level of bblastedness that makes you spend your lives raking a game that's had an announcement trailer.

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>Even sexual predators have their own book, written by a child rapist. He of course called it a "metaphor for being LGBT", but they didn't buy it.
hwat

yea. one of the princes was also a female when lecrap died. rudi is fucking stupid

>This is how you make people not play it
Yeah, but people are still going to buy it, play it, and enjoy it. So this thread is pretty baseless bait.

could they have not made him a person killed by his muslim family and revived by a vampire and not a fucking faggot with low IQ. jesus anybody who reads VTM or anything knows females can be deathly aswell.

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Rudi in and of itself isn't a bad concept. The correct thing to do is for Rudi to have to face up exactly how his preconceptions on "fighting the man" really, really don't jibe at all. The neonates anararchs he's protecting are exploiting the FUCK out of the minorities he's protecting .

Also, how he deals with the assamites, who are really not white, and much more...orthodox in how they read islam, would be interesting.

Also, the lack of True Faith in his muslim community, which would out him like the glow in the dark Vamprie Lives Matter nigga he is is amusing.

They really should have mentioned SOME of this shit in text about him.

Of course the temptation to play it the way v5 does with straight up FIGHT THE POWAH stories is very strong.

Yeah I won't be buying it

Already existed in WoD
whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Fatima_al-Faqadi

Plus the devs said he isn’t in the game, so it’s doubly irrelevant

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9 out of 10 priests lack true faith, it's exceedingly rare even among actual faithful people.
anyways I imagine female elders laugh at him.

>First thing they do is make it political

.t didn't play the first one.

How much of a fucking brainlet do you have to be to miss the politics in the first game? Actually, unironically fucking kill yourself.

Would someone actually care enough to hire an Assamite to off Rudi? Although being a gay muslim anarchic vampire isn't inherently Masquerade-breaking, the way he jibes and the fact that he has an army seems like it's a powder keg waiting to be set off.

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he's like any brujah who latches onto a cause, except he's a gangrel.

Why are gamers so politically illiterate?

depends on how assamites view undeath in Gods plan

what do you do Yea Forums?

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Beast the primordial... go ask tg about it, if you really want to know.

My memory is the sample character that pisses craps and cums fish eggs, tricks other people into eating them, and causes them to uncontrolably launch fish eggs out of every hole. And from there it goes downhill.

The Camarilla was right. These anararachs are a bunch of 'tards who are walking masquerade violations waiting to happen.

The whole dev team is composed of SJWs attacking white men

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since I can't code, I choose
4. Just dealing with it

I can imagine the female elders and non white vampires exploiting the FUCK out of his brown white knight ass.

[citation needed]

also it might be a hard pill to swallow, but statistically game developers will lean towards the left.

You should complain about politics on social media and anonymous imageboards, of course.
And then code in skinheads

>red good blue bad!!!

kys faggot

is this real? pretty fucking funny if it is

none of these really work nowadays

>ayo hol up that's the sucka who actually sucks
>let's ask for more money so we can get some good shit
And then Rudi uses Blush of Life to fuck niggers in the ass for money. The end

>The whole dev team is composed of SJWs attacking white men

Who fucking cares? Stop being a butthurt faggot. This is just capitalism doing it's work, obviously making your game a sjw fantasy makes it sell better, otherwise they wouldn't do it. It's just the free fucking market.

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Leaning left is one thing. Being so far left you ban the asians, fuck up the malks, and cause shit with the Chechen government is a compeltely different thing.

only question that needs to be answered by the developers is can I bash the fash?

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>My memory is the sample character that pisses craps and cums fish eggs, tricks other people into eating them, and causes them to uncontrolably launch fish eggs out of every hole. And from there it goes downhill.
can't say it doesn't sound interesting
>The Camarilla was right. These anararachs are a bunch of 'tards who are walking masquerade violations waiting to happen.
just talked to Isaac about what happened with Ash, and I'm inclined to agree with you

Enjoy your game made by a literal psychotic feminist SJW

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>cause shit with the Chechen government is a compeltely different thing.
They really should have left that alone. Everyone knows chechnya and dagestan to an extent are Kadyrov's playground

wouldn't be a WoD game without that.

See
VtMb was already political

I wish WOD had a warrior clan that wasn't Antifa or a bunch of gypsy loving furfags

yea it is, i find it doubly funny since all of troika's games are filled with bugs without fanpatches.

exactly, the game was a fucking mess

as long as we can't play as Sabbat the game is fucking shit

Did someone say they want another clan?

No one that played the first one cares about, or talks about two. We know this one will be shit too.

Theres a difference between anarchism and SJW cultural marxism.

It was never Antiwhite SJWs territory

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It's all fun and games until Baba fucking Yaga shows up.

What do you guys recommend?

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Oh HELL fuck no. You are the second worst parent EVER.

leave it like that if it's your first time playing.

I honestly couldn't care less.

... blood brothers? I got nothing.
maybe you should embrace the brujah anarchism user

what happened to mommy vampire?

caine just driving his yellow beetle around , ,

Hardly. All you had to do is fetch the coffin, bring it back, and open or dont open

For a first playthrough, just the basic patch.

Ok, thanks guys.

You seem to be forgetting that troika died months after releasing this game.

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still cooler than /pol/tards

I don't get why Antediluvians are seen as a myth by Camarilla, someone had to create their clans right? Also how the fuck can they accept ghosts and monsters but a super strong vampire is suddenly too much for their suspension of disbelief?

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The concept of Antediluvians is not the problem, the problem is the belief that they are still active and manipulating their childer, instead of being dead or forgotten.

it's been so long since that happend that all the history and shit has been lost in time and constant jihad. The facts have been twisted so much that younger vampires don't even know where to start unraveling the truth, so since it's so convoluted, might as well use occam's razor and dismiss them as myth,

>trans person
>gay arab
Ha!, i expected this....wait
>antifa .
>cis white male
>doesn't mention anarch in groups of organisation

holy shit is this shit

I still can't understand why you guys care? You only have to deal with those people if you're poor, and you have only yourself to blame for that.

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>humans are just a cattle for us
Huh, didn’t know vampires were kikes

Vampire politics are a extension of human politics, brainlet.
Vampire the Cuckerade was always political, they were always progressive. Stop being a faggot about it.

>political
Bloodlines had a ton of off-hand jokes about Republicans and the Bush government. And you can't seriously demand a game about politics to be apolitical.

Also people will play it because of the name. Look at how many people shill for Borderlands 3 on this thread, despite Randy being a huge SJW. It's as if people don't care.

cultural marxism has become quite the boogyman.
But Adorno's problem was that people rather listened to jazz instead of going to the opera which he prefered.
Put that aside and he is quite spot on. Through the appeal of the masses, entertainment starts to lose it's edge. Instead of "deep" games you get simplified garbage even casuals understand. If you can't make a genre casualfriendly (like RTS) it disappears.

>don't even know where to start unraveling the truth
just ask your local malkav LOL

I want to get into the tabletop game. which edition would you recommend? I've heard V5 is good for beginners, but is pretty much a soft reboot.

Stellaris is the only untainted thing paradox has made, VtMB2 is going to be SHIT

Go visit tg. Something like V5 mechanics with the older lore is what most people are using.

There is still a chance that it will go the way Deus Ex did 15 years later

>cultural marxism has become quite the boogyman.

Cultural marxism is everywhere, even in your videogames, you cattle

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Sasha Vykos predates 5.

Unlike you I read their theory.
And it's not like /pol/ tries to make it out.

real effective way of knowing what faggot to ignore is see if he uses the words "social marxism". If he does, you can dismiss whatever they got to say without worrying.

based

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I don't think all the SJWs are exactly wrong when it comes to certain things being off topic in videogames. They can be a barrier against the gen x type edginess that likes to include sexual violence, substance abuse, and extreme gore. These things would ruin any video game, but a game about vampires would be especially vunerable to plebbit tier edgeyness. So overall censorship can be a good or a bad thing and the left and right have censored things, and both have made good and bad calls to it. We live in a more sensitive world so things like sensitivity to victims of sexual violence or those who struggle with mental illness are fine. When it comes to correct pronouns well faggotry comes with the territory of vampires, it's a part of mythology and lore since ancient times. Ancient Rome and Greece used to have trap jokes and gay jokes about their version of vampires. So as long as it's white I'm fine with it, and it needs sensitive about sexual topics, which sjws are fine with anyways. I'm saying this as a /pol/ luker

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What? Edgy gen x shit is the entire POINT of vampire the masquerade. It makes as much sense as taking out millitary republicans from tom clancy.