How mad will get Yea Forums once this game do combat, story and art better than sekiro and devil meme cry?

The first was good

All-time peak is at 10600. If you think it sold only 10 times more than that...

Just FYI, Nioh was at about 350k copies sold before Valve changed their algorithm and made Steamspy unreliable about a year ago. Not long after, KT announced that the game had sold 2 million copies across both platforms. A few months after that when that player data spread leaked, it had risen to about 390k.

Also KT's PR guy heavily implied that Sony are involved with the sequel (someone asked about a PC port and the reply was literally "ask Sony"), so it's likely they're funded the localization and marketing again in exchange for dibs on the demos and exclusivity for a year.

>combat
all it needs is default Nioh 1 combat to have better combat than both DMC and Sekiro
>story, art
this will never happen. Nioh 1 has great combat but the story and the visuals are laughably mediocre. You either play it for the combat or not at all.

It will most likely be a PS4 exclusive. No reason why not. Sekiro sucks and this game will probably be better in every way. Another reason for Sony fans to gloat.

Nobody cares because those are opinions, not objective fact

Monster variety in Nioh 1 isnt even that bad. The problem is how long they stretch the game. If only there werent 5 million sidemissions that keep making you refight enemies. They shouldve cut out like 50% of the games filler and it wouldve left a much better taste in most peoples mouthes

>portbegging before actual game comes out
oofers

>Check Steamspy
>It says 200K-500K
>Somehow this means 100K
This retard canb't even read numbers right.

Niohs combat is held back by its diablo RPG mechanics. The first hours of the game are amazing but the further you get in the more broken do you become until you can fight bosses purely with gimmick abilities that trivialize them

That's the point. Relative to the length of the expected playthroughs through all of the difficulties the monster variety is not robust enough to prevent staleness. If you compare a simple main mission only NG run and nothing else then the total bestiary and boss numbers feel similar to a Souls game, but Souls games don't have side missions or expect you to reach NG+4 and a 999 floor dungeon to see all of the content even if you don't specifically try to farm for equipment.

You know you can just no use them right?

Don't reply to me with irrelevant shit. Nothing in my post has anything to do with porting. I'm prompting someone to back up their statement which was completely justified since they haven't been able to do this.

You lose the ability to do this pretty early. If you ever bothered to play Way of the Strong or beyond you would know this.

I'm really excited for nioh 2. the first one was a lot of fun.

nioh 1's combat is better than any FROM game, it's just held back by terrible level design and lack of enemy variety.

Or you can buy all 3 games and enjoy them all.

It shouldnt be my job to balance my gear to the EXACT point that the difficulty curve doesnt break. The games difficulty peaked at muneshige and got nowhere near that for the entire rest of the game

I got up to Abyss 967 and did every NG. If you think the gear doesnt let you break the games difficulty then you mustve had a really shitty build

>you have to play the game twice to start enjoying it

I didn't use any magic or ninjutsu bullshit and the game was challenging till the end.

It won't. The first one had good combat but that was it

I'm aware that end-game builds are glass cannon focused, but you still need to be able to execute in order to progress. There's an entire swath of gameplay where gimmicks aren't possible because mid-game gear isn't powerful enough to allow for true min-maxing.

BARRY ARE YOU OK?!

And the gear system that undercuts any challenge
And a completely lack luster narrative and world
And the reuse of levels

You dont need either of that if every weapontype can obliterate every enemy. Also with "till the end" do you mean NG end or NG++++ end. Because sure the game is challenging in NG++++ but i wouldve also enjoyed not being bored to death for the first 2 NG playthroughs

You have to play through the game on all of the difficulties to actually have the clout to say you've seen all there is. It's not like Dark Souls that just makes monsters stronger. More mechanics in the game are unlocked with each new difficulty. If you stopped playing once you saw the credits you've missed out on a huge portion of the legitimate game.

>defending portbegging
yikers
>PC portbegging
oofer oof
>not even a good game
yikesirs

That's what I thought you retarded shitposter.

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Why would I be mad about a good game?

I hope the sequel has the same composer.
The music in Nioh is much better than Sekiro.

This.

Nioh STILL has the best combat of any of these types of games, standing at a level on par with more traditional action games like DMC or Ninja Gaiden. But despite that I still rank it below all of From's games (sans DS2) because: lacking enemy variety, it starts off too punishing and ends up being broken by the end so the difficulty curve's whack, too many repeating mission-levels that use the same areas, and the whole structure of selecting "levels" from a map menu kind of sucked, and it didn't have nearly as absorbing an atmosphere as the From games. The story was also garbage but I don't subtract points for that.

I'm optimistic about Nioh 2 though. Hoping they learn from the issues with the past game and just keep the combat the same.

My problem isnt really with endgame. My problem is with the first playthrough aka the first 50 hours of the game. Especially how the final 2 bosses in the main game are pisseasy and one of them is a gimmick fight. Oda was pretty disappointing aswell.

Be honest with me, you used sloth or carnage, didn't you?

I played through way of the Nioh user. That doesnt excuse the literal 100+ hours of 0 excitement after fighting muneshige.

>The first hours of the game are amazing but the further you get in the more broken do you become until you can fight bosses purely with gimmick abilities that trivialize them
>My problem isnt really with endgame. My problem is with the first playthrough aka the first 50 hours of the game.
Please keep your story straight.

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Man I'd be fucking hype if the combat manages to be better than Sekiro which is slightly better than regular Nioh which was a huge step above Bloodborne which in turn was better than Souls.
This genre is only getting better and only massive retards would get mad at it.

Nioh 1 was mediocre. Knowing Team Ninja and sequels Nioh 2 will be straight up shit.

? Its not hard to understand user. The game is a boring slogfest on NG and they shouldve made the endgame bosses harder instead of slapping a new NG+ ontop of the game with every DLC.

Then you wouldn't be saying something so retarded like complaining that you can eventually become powerful enough to fight bosses purely with gimmick abilities. Becoming strong enough to defeat bosses easily is the point of becoming stronger.

Aside from Kelly, I find the monster designs in Nioh to be far more interesting than Sekiro so far.
Youkai and monstergirls>samurai dudes
In fact, the psuedo PVP boss battles against the daimyos were my most hated part of Nioh

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I'm loving Sekiro, why would I be mad if Nioh 2 will be even better?

These two statements contradict one another.
>The first hours of the game are amazing
directly contradicts your statement that
>The game is a boring slogfest on NG
You need to pick a narrative and stick with it if you expect me to take you seriously.

Why are you not loyal to your fanbase? Thats like asking why someone who plays Tekken would ever touch Street Fighter.

The most fun i had with Nioh was playing the Beta against Tachibana. The main game sadly didnt feel nearly as exciting.

I like how you left exploration out, at least you're honest.
Not too sure about the "combat better than devil may cry" part though, you probably haven't even play any devil may cry games and you're just another faggot seething over a fandom.

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user just because you consider the entire first playthrough of the game as "the first hours" because your "Abyss 999 and 2k hour playtime dude im such a badass"-elitism is deluding you, doesnt mean i need to follow your retarded logic. With first hours i literally mean like the first 2 hours. Which are followed by 58 hours of staleness.

Nioh has my favourite videogame version of the Nue. I think it's the eyes that do it.

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>some actual fun and good games come out
>gaming is in a good spot
>Yea Forums immediately falls for the troglodyte tribalsm instinct and starts "picking sides"
can you not just be satisfied for once in you life you fucking apes?

>combat
Nioh > Sekiro > Souls

>Everything else
Souls = Sekiro >>>> Nioh

My game>Your game
This is the rule of Yea Forums. Don't be a fucking centrist.

So you're full of shit making retarded arguments. I sincerely doubt you actually played through Way of the Strong considering how you're acting. You're complaining about the beginning of the game. You're complaining about the end of the game. Yet you claim to have played it for hundreds of hours. This shit doesn't add up, bro. You need to do a much better job at explaining your reasons for why you believe something.

>tfw Kaneko is forever lost in the flower fields

tirbalsm is a primitive and retarded instinct and a leftover from our caveman days. Corporate tirbalism is even worse since its like defending the literal devil himself while he's fucking you in the ass.

Nioh has prettier girls than From, with maybe the exception of Dark Souls 1 since it has Priscilla and Gwynevere.
Can't wait for Nioh 2 to add Nyotengu as a DOA collab

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Up until the end of NG+ it was fun then it's just "random loot dude!"

I like the game and did 999 Abyss but it's pretty fucking pointless eventually.
Also no, the combat is shit - it's almost as bad as DMC. You're literally just going to be one shotting enemies with iai or SotC or spamming shuriken/kunai and restoring them with two pieces of Iga set after LW ends.

Once you get to WotD, it's boring and just a grind.

Get better reading comprehension you absolute retard. My point is clear enough for a fucking baby to understand it.

Then fuck off to reddit if you want youe 'lets enjoy everything' and be a carebear.

Nioh girls all look like generic DoA or Honey Select imports.

>using ninjutsu
>using lw
>complaining that it's shit
faggot

Reddit literally has tribalism build into its core concept you retard.

No. You're full of shit. You're acting like all they did was slap a number at the end of every NG+. Only people who did not play through the difficulties would make this retarded claim. It's not like Dark Souls. Do not open your fucking mouth about this shit when you don't know what you're talking about. You're an embarrassment. You have no credibility. Your opinion about this game is worthless because you never bothered to actually play it to completion.

He's still around! A couple years back he did the cover artwork for a historical manga about Nobunaga and some guest work on that SMT clone El Shaddai sequel.

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Still looks better than the trannies that Fromsoft makes.The character creator for nioh 2 will be so good.

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And don't forget covers for BL manga.

When did i EVER make ANY claim about ANYTHING past NG you absolute fucking brainlet. Also if you wanna know: NO, fucking slapping random Yokais wherever the fuck you want is NOTHING SPECIAL and does not somehow magically change the fact that NG IS A FUCKING BORING SLOGFEST AFTER TACHIABANA.

Not on my watch faggot.

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>The game is a boring slogfest on NG and they shouldve made the endgame bosses harder instead of slapping a new NG+ ontop of the game with every DLC.
>instead of slapping a new NG+ ontop of the game
You've been exposed as a lying shitter who quit the game when it got a little more difficult. You act like you've got the experience but you genuinely don't. You're complaining about almost every facet of the game itself and you expect people to believe you put hundreds of hours into it. Chalk this one up as a loss you retard and learn how to construct more believable lies.

>censored
Yikes

>tfw Bamco isnt even showing it on Pax East
Sony killed it didn't they?

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Japanese journalists gave it a right royal bullocking in the press last year, so they've probably had to rework significant parts of it. Plus they're probably waiting until Sekiro's hype dies down a bit.

It'll do combat better than sekiro and worse than dmc5 I'd imagine. But it'll still be great.

No, not at all.
LW was a crutch I used when I'd play a new level and go into a gangbang and just ran off to recover

Ninjutsu is just playstyle, user.
Between SotC with a A Master Swordman's set or 5 piece Futsunushi for bonus iai, it's a case of "optimize or else get ignored".

What about that is a lie exactly? With every new DLC the slapped a new NG mode ontop of the game. Throwing a few random yokai into random levels doesnt make Way of the strong/demon/wise/nioh ANYTHING special user. Stop pretending like it takes any effort whatsoever to do. Holy shit are you actually this autistic about the game that you cant handle a person saying the first playthrough is boringly easy?

yeah i think we can all agree, DMC5's combat is much better than sekiro's, it's just not nearly as good

He's not wrong tho. The game isnt really challenging before Way of the Demon. Any at that point it only becomes hard again because even the slightest chip-damage almost oneshots you unless you're running heavy armor.

>trannies
>when every single firekeeper was a 11/10 babes
You gay as fuck dude.

I regret playing Nioh on launch when the balancing was completely fucked. Then again some of the broken early builds were pretty fun.

You sound like a little bitch.

>Doesn't like rpg mechanics
>plays games with rpg mechanics
>bitches about said rpg mechanics

Yea, you're a little bitch.

If you actually played the difficulties you would know that throwing a few random yokai into random levels is not what happens. You were already exposed and now you continue to dig the hole even deeper.

The game's challenge is always going to fluctuate based on your individual skill level, your luck, and your planning. I'm aware that the builds ultimately converge at the end-game because defense becomes ultimately trivial because everything one shots you regardless. But the difference is I'm not complaining from a stance of ignorance. I liked the game from beginning to very end. But I can only make that assertion because I played through it all. This guy didn't. Clearly.

Nioh is held back by its RPG mechanics. At its core it has an outstanding combat system that gets overshadowed by hundreds of hours of tedious inventory management

>If you actually played the difficulties you would know that throwing a few random yokai into random levels is not what happens. You were already exposed and now you continue to dig the hole even deeper.

So tell me then what happens user. Because when i played it all that i noticed is the typical power-level bullshit where they raised the level/rarity cap and threw in some extra enemies. That being said im not even complaining about anything past NG so i dont know what all your autistic rage is about.

Congratulations you finally looked up some difficulty differences on the Internet before making a post. You also literally complained
>The first hours of the game are amazing but the further you get in the more broken do you become until you can fight bosses purely with gimmick abilities that trivialize them
So once again you contradicting yourself from your ignorance and lies bites you in the ass.

The only 'firekeeper' who looked decent was Plain Doll and maybe Maiden in Black.
Anastacia looked dumpy, you cant even see half her face
DaS3 Firekeeper looked meh
Shanalotte looked like someone out of a WRPG with her bland face
Emma is the most 5/10 female character ever. Hilarious that Kuro looks more attractive than her.

>But the difference is I'm not complaining from a stance of ignorance. I liked the game from beginning to very end. But I can only make that assertion because I played through it all. This guy didn't. Clearly.
playing through way of the samurai is more than enough to have valid opinions about the game user. Gatekeeping "valid opinions" to "you have to have played 2k hours" is pointless because nobody takes that long to form an opinion. Also it seems to me like he is only critizising way of the samurai anyways so what does his experience with anythign after that even matter? I personally stopped playing after Way of the wise and that doesnt mean that my opinion about the game having way too little enemy variety is uninformed.

>"your criticism of a NG playthrough becomes obsolete in NG+ and therefore your criticism isnt fair"
imagine being this much of a flagpost-moving brainlet

>playing through way of the samurai is more than enough to have valid opinions about the game user.
Absolutely incorrect. This isn't gatekeeping. You literally haven't seen all that the game has to offer if you're quitting less than 20% through. You can have an opinion about NG. But to pretend like your opinion is applicable for end game is disingenuous and it's exactly what he's trying to do.

user increasing level-caps is nothing special, wtf are you on about.

All criticism based on a lie supposing first hand experience should be immediately dismissed. I don't pretend like I'm a doctor because I opened a physiology textbook once.

That's also not the only thing that happens. Who the fuck do you think you're fooling?

Who the hell would be mad about a game being better than other games?

>But to pretend like your opinion is applicable for end game is disingenuous and it's exactly what he's trying to do.
i am not. which is why i said your reading comprehension sucks ass you retard.

I'm not getting mad because this isn't a shitposting competition. Feel free to lick on my gonads, though.

Fanboys.

It shows your lack of loyalty and conviction towards a title.

>playing diablo-souls
lmao no thanks, i dont enjoy wasting 200 hours inbetween 10 minutes of fun

Your posts incorrectly assuming what the differences in the difficulties expose you as someone who did not actually work his way through the difficulties. Nobody who played the game to end-game would make such asinine simplifications and simultaneously complain about what happens in those difficulties. You don't reach that point if you're dissatisfied. Everything about the way you are expressing yourself betrays the fact that you are lying and pretending to have gotten through the higher difficulties.

I did not say a single wrong thing about the other difficulties user. How am i supposed to expect that you would sperg out and call me liar because i didnt mention level caps as if they have ANYTHING to do with the games inherent difficulty.

>With every new DLC the slapped a new NG mode ontop of the game. Throwing a few random yokai into random levels doesnt make Way of the strong/demon/wise/nioh ANYTHING special user
This is literally trying to portray the difficulty levels in Nioh as though they are identical to those found in games like Dark Souls. Nobody who actually got through these difficulties would attempt to simplify them in this way. They wouldn't make this kind of argument. You've been put in your place several times now and everybody sees that you're a lying piece of shit. You're bitching about a game being hard and you're pretending like you played through all of it in order to give your claim more weight because you don't want your shitty opinion to be challenged. Keep your ignorant mouth shut about facets of games you have no experience with. You're only qualified to discuss what you have seen first hand. You didn't earn the right to criticize the end game, or the game in general because you missed out on the overwhelming majority of the gameplay.

>getting mad that games are getting better and developers are actively competing with each other to make the players happy
Why the fuck would anyone be mad?

In REALITY
People wilk stop talking about Nioh 2 after a month like the last one.

Shit taste or a severe case of gays.

Jesus christ, yeah im not reading that. Im done here, thanks for proving that the "t. conqueror"-autism is real.

i will be pretty happy, that means other games will have to do better to compete

My wishlist for Nioh 2:
>More weapontypes
>More enemy variety
>LESS FILLER, STOP WASTING MY TIME, HOLY SHIT
>More creative areas like the Frog-Ninja temple or the final castle instead of generic wooden huts and rocks

Every time without fail someone who is wrong pretends like they're only running away from an argument because they're too lazy to read. The people here aren't 8-year olds. Everybody knows that people who are correct don't act like this. Only people who lose run away while claiming "I'm right but I totally don't need to prove it because that's how right I am". Stupid asshole.

you forgot
>better music
its fucking laughable how there is 1 track for 85% of the bossfights