Final Fantasy - where to start?

Shut the fuck up, OK?

I played XIV and I've been working to play the series in order, played I-IV so far.

>X is good
>Don't play 1
Look at this faggot.

>Play the version that's baby easy.
Why?

Do not listen to this man, this bersion has the baby MP system, remlving one of the main features that sets FF1 apart from the rest of the series

You are gay then.

The early ones haven't aged well, grindy as hell. 6 is when it started getting good.

The original 1 will feel rather clunky and dated compared to other titles -- the inability to purchase more than one item at a time (turbo controller to buy Potions in bulk), stats that did nothing, and the Magic system was the old "stock" spells like in D&D since MP didn't exist until FF2. The GBA remake fixed most of that, but also felt easier than its NES counterpart. If you want to play FF1 first, go for the GBA version.

The essentials for the series tend to be I, IV, V, VI, VII, IX, and, for spinoffs, Tactics (just the Playstation Tactics, the GBA games are hit or miss).

Start with 1 but play PSP. The NES version is bugged and some mechanics don’t work.

So which version of the original is the better looking, NES or Wonderswan?

i really really hate faggots like you.
why didn't you think before posting you huge retard?
god, kill yourself.
>preferably from the beginning
you answered your own question and even for this i had to spoonfeed you. this is shameful.

>OLD GAEM GUD NUGAEM BAD
Yeah, I love playing mages so I can hit giant monsters with wooden sticks!

6 or 7 desu. 4 is boring as shit if you have no nostalgia for it or that era

Go be butthurt somewhere else.

Final Fantasy II

This is retarded

Fuck off m8 just use small spells and save your nukes

Good game (remakes), fight me

X is an essential

L O L
what a huge faggot you are, holy shit!

Look into 'Final Fantasy 1 Randomizer' if for nothing else than the fixes to the various bugs the game it provides:
> XFER, LOCK, and other effects spells work
> Houses restore MP and then save the game so you actually reload the save with filled MP
> Enemy's group effect spells actually work and target the caster properly, so an enemy that casts HEAL will work for them like it does for you.
> Running away from fights is fixed so the thief/ninja ability actually works
> Special damage types from swords actually target the correct enemy classes now for the proper attack bonus
> Basically the entire fucking game is fixed

Essential Cringecore™ game, a true classic in the genre.

Which version of III had the best atmosphere?

graphics don't matter to me I actually enjoyed playing II

Objectively, Wonderswan is the best version (same with II, although that one's more debatable). The translation patches aren't 100% finished because fantranslators are dumb so the closest thing is Final Fantasy Origins on PlayStation and PlayStation Network. Either version is reasonably modernized while not fucking up the core gameplay like Dawn of Souls and versions based on it did.

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Play all the games on the original consoles or via emulation of the original consoles, except maybe the first 3 which were NES games and very clunky.

Ideally just start with 6 or 7 since they are the best ones and the easiest to get into.

6 was originally called 3 in the west, so Final Fantasy III on SNES is the one you want. Don't play any port of 6 or 7, they all suck.

Based.
Not really. The strongest FF games are 5-7, with 1, 2's remakes, 3, and 9 being pretty solid. The best stuff in the franchise is the spinoffs, like the Ivalice games and Crystal Chronicles.

The one with the chibi pixel battle sprites, not the one with the chibi 3D models.

The best way to play VI is the fan patched patched GBA version. The only thing it's missing is a few lines of resolution. Sound, color, censorship, content and everything else are all fixed.

5 is better than six you faggot

DQ is better than FF.
proof me false.

NES.
3D IV is better than 2D IV by a fucking mile, though.

I can't, you're right.

No, the definitive version of IV is the PSP version, which is 2D.

>Play the GBA version

Why the fuck would you tell a person this. Do you hate him?

>tfw PSX FF6 was the easiest version for me to get
>loading times aren't that bad right?
>start playing through it
>eh not bad
>start grinding for Kefka Tower

These fucking loading times are making me want to jump off a bridge

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cringe

Play VIII and XIII

The loading times made me give up on that version after 2-3 battles. Can't imagine playing it until you reach fucking Kefka Tower.

I hear the Vita port did pretty well but I haven’t played it, but it has extra dungeons WS and PSX don’t have

It's an easy entry point for someone who hasn't touched the series and the MP system -- which carries into the other games aside from VIII -- replaced the D&D stock system.

FFI > DQI

FFT > DQ*

No they aren't, and retards like you need to stop recommending that garbage. The "fixed" music sounds even worse than the original GBA effort and absolutely nothing like the SNES original. The GBA versions has zero advantages over the SNES version and only negatives.

You mean the PSP version which is a cheap port of the broken GBA version, and completely dumbed down in terms of gameplay?

Your party is overtuned af, partially because of the fact that they just replaced the MP system with the stock shit with no rebalance. Definitely one of the worst ports if the game outside of iOS or whatever. Get Vita or PSX.

>people complained about IV PSX loadtimes
>when v and vi are FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE

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They’re literally both good for different reasons

I prefer the DS one though

I only bought the PSX version because it was significantly cheaper than SNES or GBA and
i like collecting

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I have no idea what you are talking about. There is only one version on the PSP, and it's the best.

I just had some friends who played XIV, and I really loved everything about the setting and world. Wanting to educate myself about the references in it like the Crystal Tower, I decided to play through the series. I need to start V but I have a huge backlog.

Isn't the Vita version the same as the iOS though?

I'm 35 - if you're an old fuck like me, definitely start with FF1. NES and PS1 versions are both good. FF2 is better on GBA/PSP and FF3 is better on NES. If you're a bit younger, id start with FF6. Great story, music and presentation, fun combat and no grinding.

>I only bought the PSX version because it was significantly cheaper than SNES or GBA and
I wonder why... /s
It's okay for collection reasons, but actually playing it? No.

Honestly I dunno shit about the mobile versions, I jusy know there are 10,000 ports out there and one of them is probably worse, and I know the FFV iOS port is notoriously awful so I swung at that.

>imagine being this retarded
youtube.com/watch?v=8cZZZqGQsEg
Needless purists like you should be castrated to prevent you from breeding, but then again that wasn't really a realistic threat anyway.

But hey enjoy your shit translation and less content

>retards saying to play the NES FF1
fforigins.com/ff1/bugs/index.html

Three of the spells don't work at all.

>just use small spells and save your nukes
Small spells are literally all you have in the beginning, you dumb nigger. So I'll play the version that was designed by a person with a triple-digit IQ instead

Cope

>the definitive version of IV is the PSP version
Updating it to the newer ATB system completely fucking gutted the game.
SNES with the Namingway patch is how you go the 2D route.

Of course you have no idea, you're a clueless moron. You like the PSP version because it has the best 2D graphics, completely ignoring the fact that everything is dumbed down for retards, every single battle is baby mode where you can just mash attack to win. Prime example is the first boss where you're supposed to defend when it turns to mist or it will counterattack - in the PSP version, if you just mash attack you'll kill it before it even turns to mist once.

In addition, the PSP version adds some absolutely terrible 3D cutscenes that look like they were made by someone who has never used a 3D design application before.

The only good versions of FFIV are the original SNES version - the Japanese one, not the also dumbed-down western release - and the 3D remake, which has questionable graphics but the best gameplay with a great amount of depth and strategy.

If you bring up patches and shit then obviously SNES with patches is going to be better.

What kind of ascended ultra-hipster status do you have to reach to unironically think this.

Imagine being a philistine and having the audacity to call others retarded.

If you're content with eating garbage, suit yourself, but don't try to drag people with actual standards down to your level.

What does that patch do? At any rate I'm sure it's better than the garbage PSP port.

Oh boy the retard is still talking after getting BTFO

Are you a fucking idiot

Did you know you can play the game long enough to get level 2 spells?

FF6 was my first FF and i thoroughly enjoyed it, definitely see why it gets praised so much.

i didn't wait for shadow and i killed cid

start by playing Dragon Quest

romhacking.net/hacks/2337/
>Final Fantasy IV Namingway Edition is an attempt to bring Final Fantasy IV (FFIIUS) closer to its Japanese counterpart. This uses the excellent work by vivify93, Project II, as a base.
>Using modern names where possible, and abbreviations where necessary, all items, spells, commands, jobs, and monsters are renamed. Monster stats, including the final boss, are restored to their original, along with spell learning rates. Also added to the mix is a B button Dash rather than a toggle or just walking everywhere.
>Also added is the original treasure chests and save point graphics. The maps have all been restored back to their original FFIV, including the Developer’s Room. Items now have extended descriptions.
It's as close to playing the original as you can get without learning Japanese.

Are the bugs fixed in FF IX and VII on the switch version?

>IT GITS GUD 40 HOURS IN
sudoku you'reself

IV JP has translation patches. Why was this extremely roundabout patch for II EN made?

>He actually thinks he "BTFO"ed anyone

The only one being called out as a retard by multiple people here is you.

The PSP version is the definitive edition, period. Your autistic ramblings will not change that.
Go look literally any review or fan talk about the game up on the internet, and nobody even mentions this bullshit you are talking about.
Whatever issues you have with the PSP version, it's a personal one, and it's objectively the highest rated version for a reason.

5 if you want great gameplay (and introduction to the most amount of FF tropes)
6 if you want great story/presentation

GBA versions for both with sound patch, for 6 visual patch too

3 is also a good introduction for the FF tropes, though it has more simplistic gameplay, but the 3ds/PSP version has really charming artstyle if you don't mind low-poly

wouldn't recommend with starting 1 or 4 (often recommended as good starting points)
1 is very barebones in story, and the gameplay is simplistic and has a really bad pacing
4 is very linear for the most part with little customization. the story synopsis is great but the execution is not very deep

if you wanna try 7-9 keep in mind that there are some great HD mods for them
youtube.com/watch?v=cfHMIg4FPko

from the spinoffs you definitely shouldn't miss out FF Tactics

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>Whatever issues you have with the PSP version, it's a personal one
You can easily test the enemy speed issue yourself. The difference is pretty blatant.

>nostalgiacucks start another flame war

God I'm tired of you retards mindlessly recommending the subpar GBA versions.

Do you think it takes 40 hours to get level 2 spells?

Nothing else hits all the check marks.

>NES Version
The PS1 version is better and it comes packaged with FF2

You are retarded. The things I mentioned are brought up every single time the PSP version is discussed among actual competent players.

The fact that you use fucking game journalists as a metric of quality speaks for itself. Everyone knows those people love games you can just button mash through.

Like, this is common knowledge among all Final Fantasy players who care about gameplay and aren't just dumb teenagers or casuals. The PSP version is definitive only among clueless morons, just like most other "HD remakes". I bet you think FFX HD is definitive too, or Ocarina of Time 3D, or MGS Twin Snakes, or Heroes 3 HD.

>subpar
in what way are they subpar?

>much nicer background sprites
>much nicer UI and text
>sound is the same after fix
>colors are the same after fix

also more content, though that content should be ignored for a first playthrough

The time doesn't matter. I shouldn't have to play the game until it decides to be well designed

S E E T H I N G

FF X is unironically better than 1.

IV or VI if you care at all for old school games, VII if you want to start for the most popular one, IX if you want to start for the best one. Tactics if you want to start for the ACTUAL best one.

Disregard the rest.

>Ocarina of Time 3D
It is for the boots alone

I don't trust it. J2Evisceration is good enough.

>9 is the best one

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There are more (and better) mods for the SNES versions. Bringing mods into the equation actually hurts the GBA versions.
>much nicer UI and text
FFV's text on the GBA is awful.

It’s an RPG m8 you don’t get every tool when you boot the thing up

That’s like a major part of the entire genre

Anyone know ??

>it's really, really hard to pause mid game and select my boots
zoomer

It’s a contender, I’ll give him.

You got brain problems or something dude? It's a fucking rom hack. It's not going to bite you or anything.

It’s an anthology, with games that aren’t interconnected in a traditional sense, and the different titles are stronger than others. I don’t recommend starting with the first one. If you’re going old school, try IV, then V, VI. FFI is great, stay away from 2, 3 is recommended only if you like all the others. My recommendation is to start with VII.

IV, VI, or VII are all good choices. Starting from I and going forward is a good idea, though.

I like IX a lot, but VI is factually the best, nigger.

nintendosoup.com/final-fantasy-vii-on-switch-reintroduces-bug-that-was-patched-previously/

No. This is Square Enix we're talking about.

What's the best way to play ff6, preferably through emulation.

XII had a DS sequel, too.

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which translations for FF1 and 2 for Wonderswan?

Rydia was my first waifu.

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>X is a good starting point.
>older ones have aged badly

Ignore this outrageous nigger. 2 is hot trash though.

other than some gimmicky mods and translation fixes I don't know about anyone that would fix the SNES to not look like a NES game
the GBA background sprites are a big improvement on the visuals, otherwise there is no difference between the versions whatsoever

if you don't agree state exactly why do you think the SNES version is better

I've only played the SNES version, but I think it's great. Easy to emulate, too.

>>it's really, really hard
Difficulty has nothing to do with it. It's a waste of time. Even if you get good at speedrunning equipping and unequipping the boots, you can't avoid the time being wasted, and it adds literally nothing to the game

>mages shouldn't be aloud 2 yooz majik until 50 hourz in teh gaem

Have you played it before?

X is garbage, dude.

Honestly 1 is pretty bad. Very little story, requires an insane amount of grinding to progress. 2 is better but three is where the series comes into its own. X Is total dogshit withe the worst mini game of all time (blitz ball) and was the beginning of the end for the series, every game afterwards is trash especially XV.

J2Evisceration is for a version of Final Fantasy IV that's actually real. Namingway Editiondoesn't mention anything about restoring the gameplay content, so it doesn't check my marks. Simple.

There's a difference between progression and classes being literally worthless for a large portion of the game

Do you think it takes 50 hours to get level 2 spells?

>Monster stats, including the final boss, are restored to their original, along with spell learning rates. Also added to the mix is a B button Dash rather than a toggle or just walking everywhere.
>The maps have all been restored back to their original FFIV,
>somehow not gameplay content
Silly me for expecting a retarded J2E fag to have a brain.

An emulator?

The GBA version of FF6 has no new graphics, retard. It does however have slowdown in many areas and garbage music quality, and this is AFTER the patch.

There is NO reason to play FF6 on GBA unless you are retarded.

FF1, 2 and 5 on GBA are fine as they do have significant improvements over the originals.

kek

SNES version, as others have said, but remember it's called FF3 in the west.

Nice """""""""argument"""""""" faggot. I've been nothing but mature and intellectual, while you're being a condescending nigger.

>Inconsistent level of detail on background, enemy and player sprites.
It looks like shit.

Boo fucking hoo. All these great games have screens where you have to pause and select new and different items. God damn water temple retards

>Gets actually btfo
>"s...seething!1!"

Final Fantasy Origins for PS1 contains best versions of 1 and 2
FF3 on PSP
FF4 on SNES or DS
FF5 on GBA
FF6 on SNES
FF7 and 8 I don't know which version is best
FF9 on PC because they added a turbo button and while I love 9 the battle system is slow as fuck
For FFX emulate the International version for PS2, it has both Japanese and English text options and contains bonus content not in the original US release, also PCSX2 can run it well even on shitty computers just learn 2 config menus
Don't care about the rest myself, Lightning Returns was kinda fun though

There's much more than that, such as items and spells, which is conveniently unmentioned. That's a hard sell to me.
>J2E fag
What does "evisceration" mean, you illiterate?

Which is actually for the better, since it skews game balance where the player never gets fucked by these spells.

Just a friendly reminder of what they did to the graphics of V and VI on the phone ports.

Other than the obvious fixes Runic Forever, Ultimate Damage Fix, and Sword Tech Ready Stance are really nice to have. Simplifying them all down to "gimmicks" is disingenuous.

You have LITERALLY ZERO argument for why having to pause the game every 5 seconds is better than mapping them to a button. Cope with the facts, nostalgianigger

>FF1 and 2 on GBA have significant improvements over the originals.
lol
(You) are retarded user

also for FF5, the GBA version is plain nicer. You could say that it's not a huge improvement, but there is still no point in not playing it over the SNES version 'unless you are retarded'.

start at 1, play up until X then stop, just as the franchise did

Good thing that’s not remotely what happens then

>Missing out on a masterpiece like FFXII

I wish the necromancer job was something you got near the middle of the new area, as opposed to the post game. I don’t remember it being that busted compared to others.

That's exactly what happens, you lying discord tranny

>items and spells, which is conveniently unmentioned.
Because it's a fork of Project II. Surely you're familiar with that, right?

Then why didn't they just take the script and insert it into the actual FFIV, goddamn... It'll never be definitive if it's a partial restoration.

People have strong, but consistently bad opinions about FF. Don't listen to anyone. Just try each game on your own.

It's clear you don't know anything about rom hacking so just shut the fuck up.

>Final Fantasy IV has plenty of hacks.
>no the one true definitive hack can't use it as a base it's too advanced for me
This is why the ROM hack scene is floundering.

That’s not what happen at all you big meanine poopy-pants

What order you play them in doesn't really matter, and there is nothing even approaching a consensus regarding which entries are good or bad. You may as well just start with the first one; I think it's still one of the better entries in the franchise.

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X. It's the best by far, by so far that everything else is trash.

Don't play X-2. If you have to read a story summary, consider it fanfiction.
You can play 7, 8 and 9, but prepare to be disappointed.
6 is also good.

>Final Fantasy IV has plenty of hacks.
Yeah, sure.

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Why use the shit version of the game as the base instead of translating the original game and using that as the base for your hacks?
Is it because romhackers are dipshits who just do whatever is immediately available instead of planing?

He's going to insult you for using Romhacking.net instead of knowing about the real, in-depth FF2 mod scene because he works on FF2 hacks and doesn't want to get called out for being a retard.

GBA 1 is ok, not alot of story to keep you going though.. just save the world.
IF you found one ok go ahead and mess with 2-5.
6-7 are a must play if you arent dead tired of turnbased combat by now.
8 is like wtf the game
9 is for total faggots, everyone claims its their favorite but gives no reasons, 8 had the better card game, 9 is kinda just a throwback.
10 was the last hurrah, MC is more cringey than the entire 9 cast but still a good story and worth a play
forget the rest, FF died with 10

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Beautiful self portrait you’ve scribbled there, user

Yeah, but anyone with a brain can tell the difference between the two and understand why working with the U.S. rom is going to be easier than the Japanese one.

VII a big shit compared to V and IX

>He thinks Tidus is bad but the story is good, not the other way around.
Holy shit, brainlet of the month here.

X was my favorite on the first run, but repeat playthroughs are BRUTAL with the unskippable cutscenes. Definitely a game to play on emulator with turbo.

>Literally shilling the lesser version of Final Fantasy IV
Folks, I thought I've seen a lot of stupid shit in this shitty fanbase, but this is a new low.

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Only marginally. Most of your work is going to be exactly the same if you're not fucking with text.

what is with the champion of the brainlets in this thread that can't handle vancian casting in ff1?

The whole early part of the series are on phones by now. It's honestly not that bad for phones. I marathoned 1-6 on them a few years back and it's such a fun adventure.

>N-N-N-N-N-NN-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N--N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N--N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-N-NN-N-N-N-N-NO Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-YOU!
cope

FF attracts a lot of stupid people who either

A. Do not give a shit about quality gameplay.
B. Have absolutely no standards for writing.
C. Are too dense to understand complex systems.

Slow down champ. I only recommend the Namingway patch if you want to play the SNES version. If you just want a good game in general, DS is the way to go.

>It's an easy entry point for someone who hasn't touched the series and the MP system -- which carries into the other games aside from VIII -- replaced the D&D stock system.

>replace D&D stock system that forces you to strategize and carefully ration your spells with generic MP system
How is this a good thing?

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I didn't say hes bad.. just cringey at times.

You okay user?

>IV or VI if you care at all for old school games, VII if you want to start for the most popular one, IX if you want to start for the best one.

>old school
They're all the same game user. Same combat system, same world design, same invisible random encounters, same interface. Heck, they all lack voice acting, despite most other rpgs that came out around the time as PS1 FF's all having voice acting.

If you wanna play the SNES version, why not just play the enhanced 3D version for the story and then go back and play the JP version? That way you get all the good story shit up front and get the two best versions of the game back to back.

Going backwards like that is stupid.

>most other rpgs that came out around the time as PS1 FF's all having voice acting.
How to spot someone who's full of shit. Voice acted RPGs were not the norm at all. At best you'd get a few soundbytes. Games like Ys were special just for having dubs at all.

Just play SaGa.

If that's your philosophy, why not play the J2E version so you get the 2D graphics and proper gameplay/systems first and then get the fully realized and well translated story on your second playthrough on 3D? FF4's story is so fucking simple from the outset that even the awful J2E translation doesn't ruin it.

Best FF coming through.
even though its not really FF

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Because the Namingway patch is better than anything that uses J2E as a base.

>most other rpgs that came out around the time as PS1 FF's all having voice acting.
Chrono Cross? No.
Front Mission? No.
Legend of the Dragoon? No
Parasite Eve 2? No.
Legend of Mana? No
Vagrant Story? No.
Alundra? Breath of Fire? SaGa Frontier 1 and 2? Granstream Saga? Azure Dreams? Chocobo's Dungeon 2?

I fucking hate revisionist zoomers.

legend of dragoon has voice acting
VOLCANO xD

As far as I'm aware, Namingway is only a partial restoration instead of a full restoration. If someone's a purist, they'd go for J2E. If they want a good game, like you said earlier, they should ply the DS version. Why go halfway?

>As far as I'm aware
You're wrong then.

I swear this must be the author of the patch.

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>2 is better

Lol!

You're quoting someone who's agreeing with you, dipshit.

Star Ocean 2 technically has voice acting too but that is ALSO just combat sound bytes. Same with arc the lad and the breath of fires.

Very few RPGS on the PS1 had voice acting and fewer than that voiced the entire story important parts of the game.
Off the top of my head I can only think of Musashi and Jade Cocoon. I'm sure there's 1 or 2 others. Far less than "most" of that generation.

Which is the kind of uninformed opinion I could only ever expect to hear by somebody pretending to be knowledgeable on Yea Forums like that fuckup

It probably is. He has an autistic fury against J2E (understandable, because it's shit) and demands people play his version despite it also being shit and not as good as just playing the JP version.

>How to spot someone who's full of shit. Voice acted RPGs were not the norm at all.

FF7, 8 and 9 came out during 1997-2000.

Here are a list of rpgs from that era (or even older) with FULL voice acting:
>Lands of Lore (1993)
>Quest for Glory: Shadows of Darkness (1993)
>Superhero League of Hoboken (1994)
>Jagged Alliance 1 (1995) and Jagged Alliance 2 (1999)
>Diablo 1 (1996) and Diablo (2000)
>System Shock 2 (1999)
>Deus Ex (2000)
And many more titles that I am forgetting about

Here are a list of rpgs from that era (or even older) with PARTIAL voice acting:
>Breath of Fire 3 and 4
>Arc the Lad 1, 2 and 3
>Lunar 1 and 2
>Grandia 1 and 2
>Baldur's Gate 1 and 2
>Planescape Torment
>Icewind Dale
And hundreds more titles that I am forgetting about

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What I can't quote somebody I agree with? Why would I give that fuckup more (you)s?

>I only recommend the Namingway patch if you want to play the SNES version.
Why do that if you can just play the Euro GBA version? It's closer than that abortion is.

>He has an autistic fury against J2E (understandable, because it's shit) and demands people play his version despite it also being shit and not as good as just playing the JP version.
Wait, really?

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>Lists a bunch of American games with less overall dialogue than FF games.
Frogposters really are always retards, huh?

All GBA versions are garbage because they completely fuck up the combat and the new shit they add is terrible.

Play the Playstation version with NES rules and Auto targeting off.

usually you start by making a new game

>>Lists a bunch of American games with less overall dialogue than FF games.
Some of those games are adventure/RPG hybrids with an amount of dialogue to rival visual novels, you absolute imbecile.

And at any rate, I listed plenty of jrpgs as well. Why are you ignoring those?

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>when she returns to the part
>she's now a woman

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It's been years, but that's the gist of it.
Pretty much all options for 2D FF4 except the original JP SNES release have serious problems, even the fan "fixes". The Namingway retranslation is probably the most sterile translation I've seen in my life, sucking all joy out of the game with clinical lines everywhere. J2E has mistranslations everywhere and just has shit grammar as well. It's ridiculous.

Start at 4 and stop at 9

Because it's still the absolute minority in the sea of CRPGs, JRPGs, etc released in that era without VA. Saying "most" other JRPGs at the time had VA is disingenuous.

And tactics advance takes place in the ivalice world too

>The Namingway retranslation is probably the most sterile translation I've seen in my life
It's mostly ripped straight from the DS version you tard.

Euro version doesn't fuck the combat like the other versions, ATB is correct there.
Translation quality is also a million percent better. If someone wants to play the 2D version, it's the best place for them to go.

>Because it's still the absolute minority in the sea of CRPGs
Nonsense. Pretty much every crpg after the early 90's (or even during it, as some of those examples show) had at least SOME voice acting, with many being fully voice acted.

>Saying "most" other JRPGs at the time had VA is disingenuous.

>What is Grandia
>What is Lunar
>What is Koudelka
>What is Arc the Lad
>What is Breath of Fire

No, it's fucked. Enemy speed stats aren't implemented correctly in newer versions of ATB, which results in literally every enemy in the game being much slower. It doesn't matter which port or region, anything from GBA on is fucked.

No, it's terms and names from the DS version applied to the Project II translation. Tom even did an article on the FFIV versions last year.
legendsoflocalization.com/which-final-fantasy-iv-translation-should-you-play/

>breath of fire
>partial
>absolutely no voiced story content.
>same for arc 1-3
Dipshit.
>hundreds more
Vanguard Bandits(?), Front MIssion 3, Mana, Mana, Mana, Threads of Fate, Vandal hearts, Wild Arms 1 and 2, Cross, Star Ocean, Evolution, Bahamut Lagoon, Arc 1 and 2, Dark Half, Der langrisser, Langrisser, Langrisser, Dragon Quest, Dragon Quest, Ogre Battle, Pokemon, Pokemon, Pokemon, Shining, Shining, Shadowrun, Tacitcs Ogre LUCT AND it's port, Super Mario RPG, Treasure Hunter G, Tresure of the Rudras, Chocobo's Dungeon, Ogre Battle Ogre Battle, SaGa Frontier 1 and 2, Quest 64,

Actually let me stop this list. You're an idiot.
Most JRPGs don't have voice acting. And the ones that do are limited to combat soundbytes. The ones with actual storied voice acting are extremely small and number, especially if they're on a console. ESPECIALLY on the ps1. The overwhelming majority had no storied voiced content.

>Th-there's a soundbite in it SOMEWHERE, so it counts!
Keep pushing those goalposts kid.
They weren't voice acted. They had a few lines in the game.

FF1 PSP is the best version
FFIV Complete Collection PSP is the best version
FFV GBA is the best version
FFVI GBA is the best version

DO NOT PLAY ANY PS1 GAMES, LOADING TIMES IS TERRIBLE

This. Actually consistent franchise.

Look, I know everyone has a massive hateboner for J2E, but so do J2E, so this hatred is kind of misguided and seriously beating a dead horse.

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Based.
J2E shitters BTFO.

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>Agree that both translations are fucking terrible and J2E is worse, but you should probably play J2E since the gameplay experience is the most authentic.
>LOOK TOM SAID IT'S THE BEST OF THE TWO AWFUL FUCKING FAN TRANSLATIONS!
Congrats. You still shouldn't play it.

I didn’t realize VI came stand alone for PS1, I got the Chronicles version with Chrono Trigger.

>>Th-there's a soundbite in it SOMEWHERE, so it counts!
Grandia and Lunar have fully voiced cutscenes you piece of FF-loving trash.

Heck, even if we limit it to combat shouts, Arc the Lad and Breath of Fire have hundreds of different lines for different combat situations that help give party members a distinct voice,

Meanwhile, in FF, which had a bigger budget than all those games combined, they couldn't even bother to have the characters make basic grunting noises when they take damage.

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Nay thou

Start with any of the SNES ones (IV, V, VI), then jump to VII
If you enjoyed it, then give the others a shot

The good ones are 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10.

I'd start with 3 or 5 because of the job system. 4, 6 and 7 are the best ones so you might play one of them as your second game.

FF1 PSP is shit, Vita and PSX are superior

Don't, it's a JRPG

You'll notice that every single one of those games is 2D while FF on PS1 is 3D with big ass CGI cutscenes. This is ignoring that you're the sort of faggot who thinks voice acting makes a game better inherently. There's plenty wrong with Final Fantasy, but a lack of VA isn't one of those things.

I'm not sure why you're listing this as a negative, combat voice acting in 60+ hour JRPGs was a mistake.

>Th-there's a soundbite in it SOMEWHERE, so it counts!

youtube.com/watch?v=FZ8nyFGuqBo

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Honestly why in god’s name would someone think VII is one of the best? What does it actually have going for it?

Who's this Tom guy you keep bringing up?

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Wow!
I can't believe the WHOLE GAME is voice act-
youtube.com/watch?v=izav0KeT_AA

What's the vita version? Never heard of it. I loved the psp version though.

Tomato. The guy who wrote the article.
You'd know if you actually knew shit about fan translations, let alone paid attention to anything aside from trying to justify your own argument.

Again, Namingway is better than J2E.
Both are fucking shit.

FF13 or 15, then 12.

He usually goes by Tomato or just Mato.

He didn't review J2Evisceration, I wonder what he'd think of it.

Vita Version is just a port of the Origins version.

I legit thought the dude was fucking insane and referring to the formerly of XSEED Tom.

>Never in the history of fantranslations has something transcended fanstranslation hell and become the one true version that y'all should play!
>Mato? Who the fuck is Mato?

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Yes please samefag harder.

Depends what you want, the series changes so much entry to entry

FF6 is imo the best one, got a great, dark story where no one part member is the main character. Steampunk and oldschool

FF7 is the classic one that put the series on the map. Diesel punk, very 90s. Do not play the HD ports cause they have always on cheats you can press if youve drunk too much onions and cant beat it.

FF9 has a great storybook feel to it. Its more lighthearted than the last two but has a great, high fantasy/swashbuckling story.

FFX is if you wanna go back to being a kid in the 2000s, drinking capri sun in the summer watching Naruto. Thats the best way to describe its appeal.

FF1 is straight up old school, you can beat it in two days but it's open nature and customizable cast makes it still a fun quick play.

Those are all the ones I recommend. FF12 is also good but not as much as those listed.

>the samefag defense

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>any help
Start with 4
Play 5
Play 6
Play 7 8 and 9
Do 10
do 12
Go back to 1 2 and 3 for historical purposes.
Do 13, 13 and 13
Do 15.

My personal recommendation for order is 4, 5, 6, 7, 9 , 8, 10, and 12.
My Personal favorites are 5, 8, 10, and 13-2 or LR.

People seriously still dont get that the laugh is meant to be bad? Yuna told him to force himself to laugh and thats why it sounds fake and forced, its the entire joke. She fucking tells him to stop and never do it again right after, how are people this retarded.

>FF7 put the series on the map

Jesus fucking Christ my man

Do not play FFV before FFIII, it will make FFIII insufferable

t. did that

>FFX is if you wanna go back to being a kid in the 2000s, drinking capri sun in the summer watching Naruto.
Holy shit this. KH1 makes me feel the same way

>literally you right now

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You forget that most of these people that post here today had FF7 as one of their first games or first JRPGs in general.

Give him some slack.

3 is insufferable regardless. I wouldn't even so much as recommend it given it's stiff progression if it wasn't for the fact that it has the single most side content in the series.

I was gonna jump on his ass too at first but cool your heels, he’s just using it as a reaction image. Read the post.

You really gonna deny FF7 didnt boost the series to new heights?

You are one low-IQ motherfucker, you know that?

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I’m gonna deny that it wasn’t already on the map. I mean, unless you’re gonna claim FFI or FFVI were hidden gems.

That’s like saying OoT put Zelda on the map.

I started with 10, and its still my favorite.

Pick the one you think looks the coolest or you think has the best story and start there. Then branch out. Tbh theres not really a "Bad" Final Fantasy game. Just some you'll like much more than others.

The big ass list of "FFs" Yea Forums made is on my old PC or I'd post it.

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It did. They were popular before, but those entries turned them into cultural icons even non-gamers recognised.

Nah brah, that’s just when you heard of them

based, GBA fun as fuck and can be beaten in 8 hours, emulated

This is objectively untrue, just look at the sales.

Ah is that why people like Secret of Mana/Evermore, Super Mario RPG, and fucking Chrono Trigger? smdh

My first one was FF1 and 2 on the GBA and I turned out okay.

Non gamers dont know anything about Chrono Trigger, but if you showed them a picture of Cloud theyd go "Oh that final fantasy dude"

Not him, but did that evert release in PAL? I've been looking for the best way to own/collect the series, and the later versions all feel somehow like they lost some of the charm.

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Literally only one person has replied to me

There's a reason Cloud was picked for Smash, not Terra or Black Mage. Theres a reason FF7 had a big demand for a remake and is actually getting it.

Just being leak of sales doesn’t mean it wasn’t amajor player beforehand dude. Frozen was Disney’s highest grossing film, doesn’t mean they weren’t “on the map” before that.

Yes, Origins had a PAL release. For some reason, it changed Link's tombstone back to Erdrick's like in the original NES localization, though I don't think it brought back Garland's "knock you all down" quote.

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People always say that but every normie friend of mine don't have a freaking idea who Cloud is

Thanks user. I'll probably grab a copy at some point to add to my collection. I'm getting versions of all the games I can in their classic forms before they get rare and expensive.

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It's not the series. They are unconnected. But don't play I-V because they aged like milk and are full of archaic mechanics.

If you want FF's brand of fantasy, IV, V or IX are the best starting places, with V being the fun one, and IX being the one with the most side content

Tactics is almost low fantasy in comparison to the rest of the series and the sequels are only good for (admittedly nerfed) gameplay equivalents

If you want something more on the steampunk/dieselpunk side start with VI or VII

If you like tropical/desert settings go for X or XII

VIII, XIII and XV are anime games
Anything -2 is a theme park game with varying levels of anime bullshit but they are pretty fun
LR is a VP game in disguise, II is a SaGa game in disguise

FF1 is very bared-boned FF experience in the first place, so it doesn't really matter what version you play.

Underrated post.
except it is final fantasy it's even in the jap subtitle how do ppl still not kno dis

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How is having a smaller pool of abilities to use at any given time more strategic?

As you can tell by the volatile thread, people have wide varying opinions on the franchise. It's best to think of Final Fantasy in that each entry has it's own splintered off fanbase. Fans of 1 entry may or may not like another. It's best that you decide for yourself of what you like and dislike.

But here's some more information:
>Mainline Entries that had sequels/prequels/midquels
II, IV, V, VII, X, XI, XII, XIII, XIV, XV
>Crystal Chronicles is a 6-entry sub-series with almost none of them playing the same
>The three major MMOs of FF include XV's midquel as well as the more standard MMOs XI & XIV. The latter two require a subscription.
>Of those currently available, there are 10 mobile games currently active. Of which only 3 of them are Non-Gacha standalones. 1 of the 3 being a chibi remake of XV
>There are 3 Motion Pictures, a full length episodic anime TV show, and many many OVAs
>The major crossover series known as Dissidia & Theatrythm are their own separate continuities. Most of the mobile games also include cross over separate continuities.
>Some games are connected as been confirmed by the writers & producers. However most of them also step on each other's toes as far as what is in continuity with what. It's best to take continuity with a light-hearted grain of salt.

Play III. Its underrated because it was translated so late (2006) and SE likes to forget Luneth and crew exist. Its the best "pure" dungeon crawling FF that doesn't have all the nonsense story telling the series becomes known for.

So much soul. Every cover since FFX has been trash.

It would help immensely if only the Wonderswan lived long enough to receive the planned remake.

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None of the games follow each others stories. So it doesn't matter where you start, each game is a different story and has nothing to do with the other. (unless it's specifically like Final Fantasy X and X2... My suggestion is start with 5, then if you like it from there, play 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 then 12. The first couple of Final Fantasys (like 1 through 4 havent aged well, but are great if you like the old school graphics/gameplay). I always loved 1. Skip 13, 15 and the MMOS as they both suck- 11 and 14.

You forgot WoFF, the only good crossover game besides D12

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Not really a series yet, with 1 entry. Still, yes it's fun. Though I'd like OP to form his own opinion instead of everyone in the thread going, like anytime FF is brought up.
>Play this game I started with
>Don't play those older games I never tried and only form my opinion on them based on consensus
>MMOs are automatically bad, no matter what