This sort of pertains to the recent announcement of Bloodlines 2. Time and time again, when a major upcoming title starts releasing details before launch, the anti sjw types throw a shit-fit over something having to do with representation or sensitivity towards certain marginalized groups. I see it all over social media and youtube.
“Keep your politics out of my games!”
“This is total SJW nonsense!”
“Muh representation!”
What the hell do these people want exactly? For every game to feature straight white dudes exclusively? Because it seems like every time a new game is announced to veer away from that, it’s written off as “SJW”. Getting triggered over representation in games seems like a total waste of time to me, yet it’s practically it’s own YouTube genre. It feels like we’re getting less hyped for games anymore because we’re ready to point fingers all the time.
A lot of games took shots at various political agendas over the years as a joke or sometimes serious, like the original Deus Ex and used it to pour in backstory
The problem now is developers and writers are officially stating "politics is now important" and then add in things like "in diversity is a problem then too bad"
Basically instead of just saying "yep, politics is a part of the story like roughly every other game ever, no it's not forced don't worry - it won't be any worse than the original with the anarchs being against the Camarilla which is literally regular folks vs rich old dudes running things"
But hey, you could have made a good thread instead
Ian Scott
abloo bloo bloo
William Robinson
Oh no some people want a good game instead of political virtue signaling clit waving narcissistic indulgence, those selfish bastards.
Because retards who don't actually play games want to hop on to the anti-SJW bandwagon for easy e-fame, internetbux, or have an actual political agenda that they want to spread and see video games as the "hip" thing the kids are into
VtMB had political references and no one gave a shit
They are basing the game off of V5 of vtm, which is notorious even on /tg/ for being absolutely infected with SJW crap. The shitflinging is stupid either way, we have no gameplay footage to speak of and the game is a year from release.
>muh V5 has SJWs in it! oWoD literally had a female lesbian black Muslim vampire who was so badass she convinced the Assamites to end their "no women" rule, and no one gave a shit. But include a gay black Muslim vampire now and everyone cries and whines
Video games are a magnet for people with autism. This includes heavy-handed liberals who briefly tried to turn games into propaganda, but for each of them there's 5 sperglords who will literally never stop seething over the fact there's an awkward SJW entry in their favorite series.
Brandon Sanchez
yeah im guessing
Chase Richardson
>references That's key. The concern is that political bullshit will become the main plot and focus instead of vampire sect conspiracies.
Cooper Scott
Are you attempting to claim that something being satirical means it can't be political?
Angel Diaz
>it's just satire bro >except it only insults Republicans and never insults Democrats They don't even pull a South Park or a GTA where they pussyfoot and go >LE BOTH SIDES R DUM XDDD
If they referenced Trump everyone on here would be bitching and moaning
Charles Myers
Back in the days games were centrist. Nowadays devs pander to one side exclusively. It's really pathetic and I don't even bother playing those trashy games. If games want politics in them they should take inspiration from RDR2. That game was pretty centrist, despite the slight leaning towards left wing.
Blake Cook
after that one resetera poll, its clear just how much of a vocal minority SJWs are and also the people who sperg out about SJWs its so much easier to ignore it all now
Xavier Campbell
It's a vocal minority of people who probably have no intention of playing it and just want (you)s. The original guy who penned the first one is coming back, and Avellone writes well enough when he gives a shit.
Samuel Campbell
its one thing to include some niggers and chinks in a game, but most developers who do support diversity usually make 90% of characters trannies/blacks/women.
This. Extremists are nowadays just a loud minority. Shame that devs like boon got brainwashed by them.
Lincoln Rogers
>Pull out some obscure shit no one's heard of >Surprised no one's bitching about it, and instead is bitching about shit that is in front of their face now. Retard.
Evan Young
>being baboon brained How are these characters empowerment fantasies to Socjus types >a buffalo bill tzimisce >some fag from rome >fag in denial becoming a serial killer
That Fatima one is pants on head, sounds like proto SJW shit.
Angel Green
Honestly I've just given up on ever having a decent Bloodlines 2 thread. When it drops I'm sure we can get some decent late night threads as people talk about the actual game but until then there's no point.
Kevin Jones
Representation of a group for the sake of representing that group is insulting to everyone involved. It's a kind of checklist thinking where you go through all the political hot topics you need to assume the currently correct stance on without ever putting any thought into how it relates to your work 80s movies had token black characters that didn't actually please anyone with half a brain, and now you're seeing that same logic except with a much longer list of token characters and messages. It's not helpful to anyone. For example, let's say you want to include a transsexual character in your game. There are a lot of interesting things you could be doing regarding the issues that comes with such a character, but actually exploring such themes purposely would take up half the game and actually upset a lot of people on both sides of the political spectrum. So we don't get that, we get a token representation that accomplishes so little that no representation would have been preferable.
Ian Butler
based dekoposter
Dominic Robinson
That's a far cry from slapping a trigger warning at the beginning of the corebook and literally writing in the appendix that fascists are not allowed to play your fucking roleplaying game.
Alexander Roberts
Many devs seem to actually look down on video games as a medium as childish so rather than focus on making a fun game it becomes about pushing their shitty politics to show how adult and relevant they are.
End result is shitty gameplay with incredibly black and white motivations and hamefisted pandering to whatever trending "victim" party.
Daniel Kelly
>What the hell do these people want exactly? For every game to feature straight white dudes exclusively? Yea Forums was complaining about generic bald (white) space marine protagonists long before journalists and society were on an anti-white crusade.
VtMB doesn't even act 'centrist" towards their own factions. The Anarchs, the same faction with a Che Guevara wannabe commie grill in it led by a Hispanic vampire against the objectively evil wealthy elite LaCroix is treated far better than any of the other factions.
Strauss and the Camarilla are virtually non-entities that barely even interact with the player while the Anarchs regularly save you >Nines saves you from getting executed >Jack gives you advice in the beginning when no one else gave a shit >Nines saves you again in Downtown from getting ambushed by the Sabbat >Nines helps you by fighting one of the werewolves in the area >Jack saves you by helping you escape when LaCroix calls the bloodhunt
You get Tung insisting that the Camarilla are good and necessary but you never actually see them do jack shit, you have to be told this in a throwaway conversation instead of actually shown it
LaCroix is objectively evil and Ming is objectively evil, if you side with either of them the game basically calls you a retard and kills you
Carter Walker
Fuck off to retardera
Eli Brown
>orange man good Fucking based, I love having a laugh at the expense of retard NPCs.
Jonathan Evans
Sounds like you should fuck off to resetera
Levi Baker
For black people to be in games without the devs going LOOK WE PUT IN A DARKIE! AREN'T WE GREAT!?
For games to not touch on retarded omni-gender politics in the fucking slightest because that shit is only popular with San Fran White People.
Aiden Young
There's also the fact user, in addition as I said here: That most develops cannot write characters well if they're done for diversity points. It's always based on a stereotype or that their character is solely "being gay/trans/black/whatever".
Jackson Hernandez
LA is the birthplace of the Anarch movement, the whole plot is a ploy to return LA to the anarchs while forwarding Caine's own will.
Fucking Nigger.
Carson White
just make a good story and don't be an asshole
Leo Reed
Why would I go somewhere where I'd immediately get banned?
Hudson Turner
>the anti sjw types throw a shit-fit over something having to do with representation or sensitivity towards certain marginalized groups >For every game to feature straight white dudes exclusively? >What the hell do these people want exactly? How many strawmans are you on, my man?
It's pretty simple. If you're going to write about politics, do it in a nuanced way that shows the virtues/flaws of each side rather than hijacking the medium to be a vehicle for your personal political views. Outside Toreadors, no proper kindred should give five fucks about their proper pronouns as an undead monster doomed by God to drink blood, intrinsically destined to distrust their kindred peers, and never destined to see the rise of another sun without going into aggravated damage
The threshold for trusting the devs to do this is every low though when outside Mitsoda/Avellone, we have "writers" on the team with slam poetry bemoaning the state of women in the modern era who can't fuck every married man they come across
see VtMB was clearly biased towards the Anarchs. At best you get a couple of snarky comments towards them but when it comes to actual action Anarchs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Strauss and the Camarilla
And there was no "good" ending for either LaCroix or Ming. Did you even play the game? Lmao
Nolan Russell
Anti-Bush sentiment was cringy as fuck, then aged like milk and it's not even comparable to anti-Trump sentiment right now.
Logan Nelson
because these games put the cart before the horse and its a simple as that
people didn't get upset about previous games with some sort of a political focus because that was not the core feature of the game but merely a part of the background worldbuilding; the Gameplay stood on its own feet with or without the political aspect
now developers are not confident with the game itself so they use political pandering and "outrage" as a crutch to keep their shitty games afloat. again and again with these "SJW" games you see the same shit, same reluctance to show the real gameplay and developers continuing to dance around the issue because they know people will be disappointed with the half-assed product.
THIS GAME IS BEING SHILLED SO FUCKING HARD BY RETARDERA BEACAUSE THE CREATIVE DIRECTOR LITERALLY POSTS THERE. THIS GAME IS UNIRONICALLY BEING MADE BY INSANE LEFTISTS.
Anyone that has any idea about the world of vtm knows that the Anarchs are scum that cant get their shit together (and often end up just as bad as the Camarilla).Half the problems LA faces in canon is because of them
Robert Gray
Nah, I'm sure you'd fit right in seeing as how you want to like a game made for and by sjws.
Ethan Lee
VtMB was also Fun modern games time and time again are not
Hunter Butler
don't play coy you little tranny shit. your sjw ideology is cancerous and is antithetical to western values and artistic expression.
Bentley Thompson
We haven't seen a single line of dialogue yet. How much worse will threads be when they start popping up?
Literally all your headcanon. The objective facts of the game is that the Anarchs regularly save you over and over again while the Camarilla begs you to help them fix their fuckups and do jack shit for you. They don't even help you during the Blood Hunt even though Strauss supposedly doesn't like LaCroix.
Henry Butler
They're all retarded and think this shit only started happening in 2016
VtM:B2 will be shit for plenty of more significant reasons, but since this diversity trend started I really can't recall seeing a non-white or female protagonist in video game who wasn't shallow, one-note and all-powerful.
Ethan Cruz
So was the first one, and Yea Forums worships it retard
Colton Price
>Paradox >DLC announced a year out >Felt the need to advertise the random pronoun generator before even speaking about gameplay >Don't forget to preorder the season pass edition for only $90USD! >people are skeptical >HURR U JUST HATE DA DIVERSITY I didn't know Bioware shills freelanced
Jordan Russell
It's half /pol/ types and half people like the Quartering who don't give a shit about any of this n reality but push it because it gets them views and money from the anti-SJW crowd on the internet which is just as gullible in giving money as the SJW one.
Hudson Hall
political pandering and MUH REPRESENTASHUN are red flags for poorly made games. honestly the fact anyone here is excited for a fucking sequel to a long dead meme "classic" shows how much of Yea Forums is populated rubes
Jace Nguyen
Sjws are unironically worse than the strictest christians.
>I really can't recall seeing a non-white or female protagonist in video game who wasn't shallow, one-note and all-powerful.
Why can't they be that if they're non-white? You do realize almost every white protag before that is literally shallow, one-note and all-powerful, right? The bald space marine shit started way back in the early fucking 2000's and now you're mad they change the color of his skin and still kept him just as boring and mary sue?
William Roberts
How would I fit in when I like to call overly sensitive faggots like you, faggots?
Eli Davis
Is this a miss-reply, or what? When did I ever bring up LaCroix or Ming in my post before you randomly compared it to another?
Nines was a good character who helped a fledgling escape a shitty end, and on the other hand, Jack LARPed the Apocalypse arriving early for giggles. I've played it almost assuredly more than anyone in the thread, both in vidya and tabletop unless there's another fa/tg/uy here that shits on me by attending the irl events
Anyone talking about objective evil in such a nuanced setting really needs to take a second fucking glance at all the powers that be in the setting before proclaiming their bloodsucking monster to be the good guy
this trokia is fucking dead but people are still excited too see some literally who's dance around with the corpse
Jacob Price
The first game was not made by insane, resetera posting fucking faggots you deranged mongoloid
William Clark
Oh it's gonna be a complete shitshow much like when MK11 sells well and we're flooded with all the ironic "NOOOOOO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO FAIL" threads.
Oliver Clark
>game is criticised as being too progressive 1 year before it is even. >game will be criticised as being not being progressive enough 1 week after release.
So long as the story is compelling and the mechanics are solid idc what the makers say on their personal twitter accounts desu
Jason Martinez
Why are SJWs such faggots that need to inject politics everywhere they go?
Jeremiah Turner
>the tabletop lore the entire game is based on is headcannon Listen son heres what really happened in LA. McNeil ousted a Toreador Baron and booted the Camarilla from the city but was too pussy to take the reigns and give the society of paranoid supernatural predators the strong figureheads that they need to not fall into chaos. This resulted in the city being divided by a dozen anarch gangs that turn LA into a giant warzone, the big glorious dream of a free city fell to dust and all McNeil can do is try and dodge the blame.
The Anarchs are fuckups. Bloodlines can pretend all it wants otherwise but its the truth and its meant to be that way. There are no good guys in kindred society.
John Adams
This, /thread
Brayden Roberts
I can't tell what is more pathetic, the pants shitting about this or Mortal Kombat 11. Too many retarded TheQuartering fags infesting this dump nowadays. Until this shit I don't think a single /pol/tard knew VTM existed.
Isaiah Lopez
>much like when MK11 sells well I doubt it will be MK9 in sales desu
Either stop posting these dreamy webms or make more.
Lincoln Harris
It's still not gonna be the "get woke go broke" thing that these people get wrong time and time again.
Blake Ortiz
Yeah its definitely bait to call anti-sjws retarded you got me
Liam Ramirez
Speak for yourself faggot I have most of the old wod
Ian Baker
except hes right retard, kys polfag
Charles Nelson
>You do realize almost every white protag before that is literally shallow, one-note and all-powerful, right? "Almost every" isn't an argument. No shit "almost every" character is mediocre and poorly written in every medium. The list of interesting, well-written or flawed white men protagonists exclusively in video games must still be in the thousands. I can't recall ANY of these new protagonists written around a diversity agenda who are distinct or well-written.
Joseph Wood
Didn't you fags learn your lesson with Captain Marvel
The biggest issue with politics being thrown into a game is that it makes everything feel less genuine as most developers who push politics are as subtle as a nuclear weapon with them. Its not enjoyable to hear someone spout their manifesto at you as you try to relax. Only those on the fringes enjoy constantly hearing their ideology enforced. It is also used to deflect criticism of the game.
Lets say I'm playing the next buggy Bethesda game. I'm going around my world of elves and magic when suddenly a fat black transexual woman comes out of nowhere and postulates the virtues of communism, I'm going to want that character removed. Not because she is black, transexual, a woman, or a communist but because she has nothing to do with the game. I might not voice this opinion because it was stupid inclusion in the game but I will just ignore it. However, when I voice a complaint about one of the many bugs in Bethesda's new game, there will be this vocal mass who will scream at me for hating transexuals, being racist, and for body shaming. They will defend Bethesda at all costs and Bethesda will fall back onto that support to justify their bugs.
My example is kind of extreme but its to get the point across. It feels like too many developers fall back on supporting various political points to get people to defend their games and deflect any issues you might have with the game. This is commonly used in film to get people to see a film or to deflect criticism of the movie. I'm not allowed to think Black Panther was a 6/10 movie, that would be racist. It has nothing to do with the fact that the third act of the movie fell flat on its face and was a boring extended fight scene.
A developer claiming to be political is doing so to get their "get out of jail free card" when the game tanks for being poorly made overall. The game didn't tank because they were bad at making games, it tanked because white men are evil.
Zachary Carter
>honestly the fact anyone here is excited for a fucking sequel to a long dead meme "classic" 'member this
>people are saying mk11 wont make money nobody fucking thinks that, normies will buy mk regardless. its just fucking gay all the designs are so dumb and bad
Daniel Perry
Brie Larson being a feminist cunt didn't really effect the movie that much. There was a lot of girl power stuff but that's been a thing for decades. Wasn't nearly as bad as Black Panther.
Jack Smith
>There are no good guys in kindred society People don't get it, even the salubri are fucked up in the head. And they literally had to remove the children of osiris for being to neice and out of the touch with the scenario. Nothing of this bullshit matters, the jyhad is an eternal struggle, and part of their curse.
Gavin Sanders
MK11 is at least justifiable in that the devs are being hypocrites who have no issue with grotesque hyper realistic blood and gore while taking offense to sexual content
Austin Smith
>FFVII is about pro-environmentalism >Tales of Vesperia is about pro-environmentalism >SMT Strange Journey is about pro-environmentalism >SMT in general is anti-organized religion >FFVI is about pro-environmentalism, anti-industrialization >MGQ is about intolerance caused by organized religion >Tales of Symphonia is about anti-racism >Tales series in general is about anti-discrimination >Sonic the Hedgehog in general is anti-industrialism (save the animals from the evil machines) >BOF II is anti-organized religion >Grandia II is anti-organized religion >FFT is anti-organized religion >Valkyria Chronicles is anti-racism against Jews, anti-imperialism >Spec Ops (anti-American interventionism/exceptionalism, anti-war) >Mass Effect (pro-diversity) >Fallout (anti-American jingoism/ultranationalism, anti-nuke) >Fallout 2 (explicitly anti-Scientology, anti-American jingoism) >Oddworld (anti-corporation, anti-industrialization, pro-environment) >Doom (anti-corporation) >Syndicate (anti-corporation) >Ratchet and Clank (pro-environmentalism, anti-corporation) >Mind Forever Voyaging (anti-Reagan) >Bioshock (libertarianism and Randian utopianism ultimately fails and turns into a dystopia)
That picture literally has a fucking vampire talking about how Communism would work for the seedy underbelly of society caught up in stupid power struggles. There's a stark difference between lighthearted political references/caricatures and taking itself seriously to the point of annoyance.
Bush bad was nowhere near as overblown as Trump bad.
Ryan Thomas
>No critical thinking >no self-reflection >only one type of news source > self-imposed bubble Morons just fell prey to retarded demagogues.
Here is a video for some retards to watch. But I bet even when shown right at hand that most of you deflect everything and go back to the same scripts. Just go ahead and shout the same inane phrases back.
That's a very interesting strawman and all, but as you already know, nobody is claiming video games should be devoid of all political themes. They plainly don't want obtuse progressive politics in their games as a shameless form of social engineering. You know this.
James Bailey
Spotted the underage
Nathaniel Nguyen
That has nothing to do with the actual game, though, that's entirely backstory that has a tenuous connection to the game at best, since the source material and rulebooks and VtMB are not 100% aligned (Caine, for example, is the taxi driver in VtMB while that isn't canon, the actual disciplines are different, etc). None of this is shown or implied in the actual game, you have to read other supplementary material that isn't even 100% tied to it
Evan Wilson
It's a brujah, of course she is going to defend retarded shit
>Brie Larson being a feminist cunt didn't really effect the movie that much user's point was that the outragefags constantly claimed her or the movie's feminism would kill it's reception, because "everyone is totally as irrationally angry as me" which isn't that different from what's happening here
Jack Collins
Vampires is actually a really good example of how SJWism is ruining games, how leftism has changed in the past decade If you take Bloodlines, you see a game with a very obviously liberal slant - I'm talking what that word used to mean: open minded and edgy. It made fun of the establishment at the time, but it made fun of a lot of things. It wasn't walking on eggshells trying to avoid offending anyone.
Jaxon Cooper
>Oh shit how do I deal with these people who have opened their eyes and don't like my social justice? >Better call them stupid and link them my video on Youtube
>poltard He wasn't a /pol/tard while it was being made, he was a /pol/tard after he made billions of dollars and had nothing to do but shitpost all day
Robert Flores
wow that cry text about muh fashzzium is fucking cringe
Josiah Johnson
Yes it was newfag
Daniel Mitchell
It's not even close, idiot.
Wyatt Scott
SPOILER ALERT >turns out the Camarilla is actually run by a secret ancient clan, the C'shets >Their antediluvian, Tronald Dump, awakens and sets out to devour all of vampire-kind >Opposing the literal genocide are the anarchs, a peaceful group that only desires world peace, led by the sassy trans POC Mary Sue (romanceable only if PC is female or non-binary) >Player joins this rag-tag group of freedom fighters in their quest to save the world while exploring their sexualities >Player can choose to side with the C'shets, which results in an automatic game over >Malks are now lolsorandum psychics with self diagnosed DID, BPD, PTSD, and depression >Healthy At Every Size Larry knows that society is the one with the weight problem >Ventrues have a side quest where they have to apologize for being white Calling it now
Christopher Brooks
>eurotrash hours begin >resetera-tier faggots collectively crawl out of the woodwork article 13 can't come soon enough
Christian Flores
>. It made fun of the establishment at the time, but it made fun of a lot of things It didn't make fun of Democrats, while it singled out Republicans and Bush. Even shit that people claim "make fun of everything" actually make fun of everything (i.e GTA, South Park) and play a retarded "BOTH SIDES BAD XD" angle in the end
Caleb Thomas
cope
Elijah Davis
Oh fuck off, I do not remember people treating Bush like Hitler and his presidential run being literally another holocaust. It was annoying, but the whining about Trump is way worse, especially with the help of social media.
Tyler Russell
>Implying article 13 will do anything
Noah Murphy
People who like video games are literally stupid. People were saying "finally a game for smart gamers" when Bioshock: Infinite came out and it was just because it had some utterly shallow depiction of American slavery in it.
Carson Howard
>It wasn't walking on eggshells trying to avoid offending anyone. My fear is that they are going to make mary sue characters in a setting where you rape people with your fangs everyday. Also, V5 was completely garbage, desu.
Leo Howard
eurotards own stupidity will finally free us from them
Cooper Bennett
>I do not remember people treating Bush like Hitler Because you're underage
Alexander Thomas
What will be the next website that is the boogeyman bros? Personally I'd like to go back to telling people to go back to Gaia.
They can put whatever bullshit they want in the game, just don't advertise it as some sort of selling point, if you want this shit to be normalized, why even mention it? Dragon Age: Origins one of my favourite games of all time had faggot companions and faggot characters, you think they mentioned it once leading up to the games release? No, they used the turbo-violence and awesome Origins feature to sell the game, not the fact you can suck your friends dick. Now fuck off.
>My example is kind of extreme You just literally described what happened with ME3.
Jaxon Walker
>I do not remember people treating Bush like Hitler and his presidential run You're an enormous fucking retard or a blatant underage if you don't remember the sheer amount of shit Bush regularly received. Him winning was seen by many people as a sign that democracy failed, he had entire books dedicated exclusively to all the stupid shit he said, which even had their own name (Bushisms). He was mocked by EVERYONE, CONSTANTLY
>now they suck his dick like hes lenin leftoids really are the most pathetic of creatures
Gavin White
It's not my video. But it is something well put and I spare time not writing an essay on an anonymous basket weaver forum. Your supposed "red pilled/opened eyes" type of people are colossally retarded. If you think that there is an SJW agenda everywhere then you haven't grasped what or who is behind it. Just think for one second maybe, if there is an agenda like you wish there was, what's their goal? They aren't unified. They don't have a single message. They don't change the world. There is no agenda and no message.
Great narrative, no way that game would be made today. Sad really as the production values in the later Deus Ex games was excellent, but they are practically parody of conspiracy theory, they even both include a memey alex jones type radio character.
Adam Allen
She is the signature character of that clan you secondary faggot.
>they don't change the world The world has been steadily getting more and more insane every passing year since social justice became trendy.
Michael Cooper
There will forever be a culture war because SJW types didn't just make their own shit and do their own thing, they spent years tearing down things already around and well liked, so obviously fans of those things are going to be spiteful for a long time, and shit on anything new you DO try to make.
Fuck off. Bloodlines is an adaptation of vtm, therefore the lore applies. And it does all line up.This all happened in the 90s and bloodlines happens in the early 2000s after the Anarchs boot McNeil from LA for having a problem with them letting in the chink vamps after the chink vamps almost take all of Cali from the Anarchs. LaCroix is only installed and has the power he does BECAUSE the Anarchs fucked everything up from day 1. Nines can bitch all he wants but he and his crew caused all of this with their incompetence. Its not my problem you're ignorant of just how deep the war for LA is and somehow unable to comprehend one of the main themes of the entire world of darkness.
Angel Bailey
>b-bush was better than trump Are people REALLY that stupid? I mean, the guy started a WAR with no proofs, they LIED at the UNSC and shit.
Let me explain.You see whites and Asians make videogames for their societies as a form of marketable entertainment. Whites for some odd reason, adopted other peoples into their society believing that one day they'll become just like them; probably to eliminate the uncomfortable thoughts about the instability of human form by proving to the world that all of humanity is "capable". What ever the reason these other people usually just end up becoming cheap labor or what basically amounts to "pets".
The Pets, essentially upset about their place in and beyond civilization tend to lash out in envy over things that just emergently occur in their caretaker's society, like lets say a majority white dev team including a majority white cast in their game. The caretakers for the pets then also get upset because "if we don't include the pets in the games they'll remember they're not a true contribution or element of our society!".
In recent times, the Caretakers have gone increasingly obsessed with trying to shift videogames into being about showing people pretty imaginary ideals about what their pets will accomplish in the future rather than actually make an entertaining videogame. The white people who don't care much for pets? Well they don't like their videogames being a commercial about how much \ X loves their pets.
The difference is the VTM setting has always featured a three way power struggle between a theocratic neo-darwinist cult, the billionaire Illuminati and anti-fa. The vampires wage "jyhad" (vampire geopolitics through manipulation of younger vampires by the older) on each other. They are right when they say VTM has always been political, however the games have always let you choose to play how you want. Some random vamp junkie spouting her pet theory on what is wrong with the world and how to fix it is in keeping with the source material. The problem, if it arises, would be the makers of the new game shoehorning you in to a particular path that conforms with their particular politics and in doing so deny play agency to choose otherwise.
Caleb Thomas
Posted early on accident so I'll just cut to the point: They're so worried about upsetting someone's sensibilities that they don't self-reflect or take criticism at all. They can't even make jokes about themselves or other group-members. Their feelings are absolute and anyone who questions that is worse than Hitler. They have very much become what they ridiculed in the 2000s, driving away a lot of the average people that supported them without getting deep into ideology.
Sure it did. Damsel was as much of a joke as she was serious, but more importantly there were a ton of other major characters not pushing explicit political agendas. It had no problem with stereotypes and caricatures, like Fat Larry, Chunk, or a lot of the Chinatown NPCs. This sort of stuff would never fly with that crowd today, because they're always preaching or getting offended.
>Before: A bunch of old rich bastards >Now: A bunch of old rich white bastards
Jonathan Howard
It's the cancer killing Yea Forums but we're too infested now for it to ever change
Logan Baker
See It’s /pol/ and anti-SJWs who don’t make shit. And based on this thread they don’t even play games
Wyatt Rodriguez
That's how I thought until around my mid 20s and then I realized "nothing in my life has significantly changed except I'm constantly getting angry at nothing" and I went back to just talking about video games and not twitter screenshots and kotaku articles.
False equivalence. From a conservative's perspective, you could say that about rock music and the 70s. Your message is so broad, it could be applied to literally anything and reeks out of your sheer taste. Times hasn't been worse or better than 50 years ago.
Ryder Gutierrez
>dude if i write a bunch of leading shit then someone will point out the obvious wow criss angel you really freaked my mind. if you already know what people where going to say, maybe you're closer to getting it than you think. keep it up buddy, see you around pretty soon : )
Nathan Hughes
>Sure it did. Damsel was as much of a joke as she was serious, but more importantly there were a ton of other major characters not pushing explicit political agendas. Damsel wasn't a Democrat, lmao. The game LITERALLY NAMEDROPS "REPUBLICANS" THEN SAYS THAT THEY ARE BAD, but doesn't do the same shit with Democrats. Do you get it now, retard?
Besides, she's literally part of the faction that is treated the best out of all of them
Ayden King
>signature character Literally nothing. Have you ever opened a VTM book or played a session?
Sebastian Cook
What's your point? All you did is posting some armchair red-pill kikery.
Caleb Hughes
Str Dex Con Int Wis Cha 20 20 14 14 12 18
What the fuck, she's literally stronger than Sarevok, the villain from Baldur's Gate 1, the only thing she has less in is Con.
Leo James
yea they softball him a lot now and blabber on about how he paints and shit. "he might have been a neocon warmonger but at least he wasnt MEAN!!!"
Cameron Cruz
Yeah, not going to bother with a blatant shitposter.
Andrew Harris
It's literally advertising, one side hates against it (and buys it anyway) and the other side protects it and buys a game they wouldn't play normally.
Nathaniel Butler
>Fuck off. Bloodlines is an adaptation of vtm, therefore the lore applies No, it doesn't, because the "lore" doesn't treat aspects of VtMB canon and VtMB plays loose with the "lore" of the rulebooks anyways >what is an adaptation
This is like saying the Star Wars Prequels movies aren't bad because there are supplementary books about them that you liked. You have to judge the game by its individual merits and the game itself objectively portrays the Anarchs far better than anyone else, in addition to playing loose with the lore anyways
Ryder Davis
You're missing the point completely.
Nathan Barnes
Kill yourself tranny.
John Foster
Still no argument. If you want to get your point across, then write something that isn't coming from some coping mechanism.
Joshua Watson
>we never cared about Captain Marvel, we never spent months and months saying it would flop, lets just move on to the next SJW outrage! We didn't, because you're not on Yea Forums. Absolute moron.
Kayden Ross
You niggers are all the same.
Asher Sullivan
i dont think i need to. by the sound of things we'll be on the same page sooner or later
Logan Hall
This. There is literally no point in basing your life on getting angry about petty meaningless bullshit. Want to know why you're a loveless, friendless loser? That's why.
Connor Ross
Trump killed more Americans than Bin Laden with his bungling of Puerto Rico
In this case bloodlines is the supplementary book so if anything you're the one trying to claim your fancanon takes precedence.
Liam White
This is an ironic post
Jeremiah Gutierrez
No, you're missing the point. You bitch about muh biased leftism and muh politics when the original game was already biased against Republicans and already was biased. The fact that it has stereotypical characters doesn't change the fact that it was blatantly biased politically
William Johnson
go post this on Yea Forums, nobody here gives a shit about your faggy superhero company wars.
Michael Evans
Nobody would describe any of those games as "SJW". Many of them were made before that was even a movement. If you had confidence in your position you wouldn't need to bullshit and argue against positions nobody holds.
Asher Cook
Not even the slightest.
Andrew Russell
Stop being so triggered, you butthurt anti-SJW virgin
Julian Butler
The history of the Anarchs literally has no relevance to the game, lmao
So if I made a WoD game where you can only join the Anarchs in LA, and you have to murder every faction, and every NPC talks about how great the Anarchs are and how awful everyone else is, and portrays every other faction as objectively evil, that game isn't biased towards the Anarchs because muh lore? This argument is retarded, kill yourself faggot
Jaxson Richardson
He keeps advertising here
Aiden Wilson
Not the guy you're replying to (just to clear it up) but you're right it was biased politically, but it was tame as fuck compared to what people are dreading will come with this one because its just gotten so much more blatant than it was in the early 2000s.
Eli Mitchell
Because unlike on /tg/ his advertising threads aren't deleted on Yea Forums.
I hope they add mods so i can make my skinhead brujah
Jayden Evans
>Just shut up and consume
Parker Richardson
theres no helping people like that. they think even the simplest story that exists for a sake of facilitating a game is somehow some deep political piece. this is like the dipshits at the guardian who write articles about kiddie cartoons like "paw patrol" being fascist. they see everything as a political battleground, which is why they get so defensive when you point it out being injected into things.
Daniel Kelly
>"Why don't SJW just make their own games?" >SJW make their own games >"REEEE why are SJW making their own games!"
Julian Edwards
The representation of marginalized groups is hilarious. A gay Muslim, that is haram. There are right ways to do it but game devs are largely not capable of it.
Ryan Carter
Wrong. Kill yourself newfag election tourist. Here are just a few examples from that list >Dorf Fortress Dev was accused of being a SJW for including trans pronouns >New Vegas Sawyer has been called a SJW, he gets into "shouting matches" with other employees over diversity, etc. >Deus Ex Warren Spector has been accused of being a SJW, is pro-women, didn't think Lollipop Chainsaw should have been made, etc. >TLOU Naughty Dog has been accused of being SJWs after the lesbian shit, have also been accused of being pro-feminist >Grim Fandango Tim Schafer has been accused of begin a SJW for being anti-GG
Do I need to spoonfeed you more, faggot?
Easton Parker
What a shit strawman, he claims that he knows why these people think what they think and then smoothly sells people on the idea that this is the case.
Carter Nelson
>Nobody would describe any of those games as "SJW". You dumb fucking retards have been bitching about Ellie being a lesbian for how long now?
Jonathan Morris
He doesn't though, they're always threads attacking him and never the other way around. Its not even a falseflag, you're just fucking dumb.
Camden Torres
No, I didn't complain about political bias. I mentioned a cultural shift that has made it verboten to mention all manner of things, make all manner of jokes. The left has shifted from being an edgy rebellious open-minded movement to being the establishment censoring things it sees as a threat. Vampires 1 would never, ever get released today and you know it. Not by the people responsible for 2 or v5, anyway.
Isaiah Taylor
They're not though, they're exerting power on existing studios.
Gabriel Sanders
pot called the kettle a nigger
Jonathan Morgan
>Oh fuck off, I do not remember people treating Bush like Hitler I mean that really shows your age
Adrian Ortiz
>What exactly is the deal with this “Anti-SJW”
No-one but a shill would ask something this retarded.
Jordan Watson
But all the devs here have been accused of being SJWs
Joseph Taylor
That character is from tge tabletop, not the video game - and that character was added to the tabletop after the (ex) writers were accused of injecting their own right wing politics into the game, and was just an obvious attempt to pander
Landon Barnes
>"Why don't SJW just make their own games?" >SJW make their own games >Goes under >"REEEE why do white males kill our games with their racism!"
I've been bitching about SJWs since 2012, you fucking newfag.
Samuel Russell
>2012 >not new OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAHAHA
Ian Wilson
>"Vote with your wallet" >We stop buying shit and all these companies start failing >"REEEE people's live's are stake you entitled incels, BUY OUR SHIT GAMES"
David Murphy
This is a nightmare isn't it. I'm going to wake up soon, remember all of the literal shit in this post and find relief in the fact that nobody would be stupid enough to take baseless tabloid gossip at face value.
Julian Wilson
When Halo was announced they marketed it as a game where you shoot aliens, not a game that you HAVE to buy if you're not an EVIL NAZI because there's an important black character who exists solely to #fuckdrumpf and slayy the patriarchy
Thomas King
>No one would describe those games as sjw >He responds by citing single developers doing things unrelated to the game or even things that happened much later.
Brayden Thomas
This pot was aluminium and that statement was accurate.
Elijah Campbell
Literally been here longer then 90% of this thread.
Blake Lewis
GAMERGATE 2 GAMERS RISE DOWN AND SUCK COCK
Easton Harris
Based Resetera Chads working seething MIGA/pol/cel virgins into an absolute shoot
Ian White
>being this new Fuck off back to r/the_donald
Alexander Anderson
No they haven't.
Easton Clark
Zoomers need to be banned from this fucking site
Jordan Turner
They don't treat both sides with respect if they're going for a proper political narrative. It's just a generic "X good Y bad" without proper discourse. Every game is copying Star Wars where the Empire (or antagonist) did nothing wrong until the Rebels (or protagonist) showed up. In a game like Metal Gear Solid you're given reason to not like the terrorists, instead of them being the default bad guys, and actually gives a narrative of nuclear war being bad by demonstration, rather than banking off the players already held beliefs.
Brandon Rodriguez
And based "Resetera" has been here for 13 years baybay xo
Kevin Anderson
there's no game that's in both lists you blatant halfwit
Charles Turner
>original image said "games made by SJW devs" >original post said SJW types don't make their own shit >what is basic reading comprehension
Jack Perry
>I hate politics in games >So I'm going to talk about it fucking CONSTANTLY
Zachary Morgan
What about us based and redpilled Resetera zoomers?
MIGA/pol/cel virgin boomers need to fucking leave this board.
Cameron Mitchell
But this is video games, VTMB is an RPG praised for it's writing, excellent characters, player agency, atmosphere, music and for me personally it's visual design, nice touches like the final death shader, facial animation, soft body physics, and much more. SJWs have proven time and time again that they can't keep their ideological beliefs and fantasies out of games that they work on and we get shitty "woke" jokes and references and characters that don't seem to exist within the world around them, characters that aren't logically consistent, that aren't based on the environment they live in, or interesting on any level, It's fair to worry about this sort of stuff.
Landon Flores
yes that's a logical thing to do. people complain about how their favorite team has shit players all the time
Zachary Edwards
>vampire players >not incels or mentally ill
Colton Evans
Yes they have. Not everyone is new like you, faggot. Tim Schafer in particular got shit on quite a bit for being anti-GG, while Sawyer has generally been seen as "SJW, but okay"
Aiden Wood
No, we want MIGA/pol/cel virgins to keep talking about it so we can laugh at them. That's the end goal for us based Resetera Chads.
Caleb Johnson
here's your (You) you've been begging for in multiple posts, have fun little buddy
You're nowhere near as clever as you clearly think you are with that shit tier bait. Take it to Reddit, you'll at least get upvotes from retards there.
Liam James
I'm literally fucking your girlfriend right now boo boo boyo.
Jose Johnson
No, no you havent you vile scumbag. Go bash the fash or something.
Cameron Baker
Is it just me, or was 2012 Yea Forums still way less political than Yea Forums is these days? I feel like Yea Forums was still in it's "Yea Forums 2.0" phase back then, with all the Jimmies and "plus tip" spam that was on Yea Forums at the time.
Daniel Bennett
SEETHING MIGA/POL/CELS COOOOOOOOPE
Justin Morris
But you’re wrong, none of those games are ABOUT those things, they just have them as themes, and oftentimes don’t even give a right or wrong answer, they just wanna tell a good story. Problem with modern games, is that they don't care for the quality of the product, they just wanna use it as a platform to promote a political agenda.
Alexander Jackson
>Why are you comparing Bush to Trump? Bush wasn’t mocked NEARLY as much as Trump was!
The problem was never “muh politics in my vidya!!!”. Politics is in fucking everything, I wouldn’t be even surprised if a fucking food comercial had a political stance on it. It will always be there, it will never stop. And its natural, because we are tucking humans, and we have been living in society for 6k years, even more if you consider more abstract tribal shit.
The problem here is identity politics: SJW are obsessed with it, /pol/ its obsessed with it, reddit its obsessed with it....Americans in general can’t stop talking about it (either promoting the bullshit or complaining about it). We are at a point where this shit has to be everywhere, since 2010 we are in this fucking loop where everything is about blacks, trannies, gays and woman. And if it isnt, you know /pol/shits and the like will cry if theres a minority on the screen.
Honestly this thing is hell. I’m tired of it, I’m tired of seeing it everywhere, I’m tired of talking about it while listening to the same arguments and comments. I will even take early 2000 culture, with its shitty music and war of terror shit. I cant wait for the next cultural shift.
Ps: I’m still hyped about the sequel. I loved this game, and have a hope that the people behind it will bring a piece of that cult classic to modern era. I really hope they don’t fuck it up...
Lucas Bailey
all this talk about politics is missing the most important point though, which is that if you preorder a game a year in advance that still hasn't shown any gameplay because you like one or two people writing it, you're a fucking retard they asked for boundless criticism and are probably hoping to bank off this miserable shitflinging keeping their unfinished game in the spotlight in lieu of actual content
Jayden Peterson
You are more like an NPC following script at this time.
Jeremiah James
The first post is also talking about sjws exerting their influence on games, the issue is the content of the games. Regardless that still doesn't change the content of the post you replied to genius.
Aaron Long
We were always political and we never supported your edgy Nazi bullshit here. There's a reason why the userbase quadrupled in 2016 thanks to faggots like you fresh off the boat. Resetera is a Yea Forums colony, r/The_Zognald (your home, in which you need to go back to so help all of us out and do this entire thread and board a favor) is not. Stay mad MIGA/pol/cel
>seen That's not the same as being SJW, i can literally spam this board with a shit tabloid thread and bait people.
Cooper Jones
Yeah, it was. GG sent things down the wrong path, and the 2016 election fucking sealed it with all the literal fucking boomers appearing on the site with no interest in anything other than constantly circlejerking about libruls.
Isaac Davis
>Resetera >chads Kek
Michael Walker
>2 singular developers from like 10 studios, one of which you acknowledge is not particularly criticized.
Joshua Rogers
Cope MIGA/pol/cel, how dare Yea Forums have opinions different than mine!
Mason Bell
How do they “exert their influence” the devs weren’t forced at gunpoint, Sawyer wasn’t forced at gunpoint by a tranny to get into shouting matches over diversity, lmao
Christopher Peterson
At least we're having sex when your fat wh*Te virgin ass is eternally trapped in your basement. Pretty Chad of us and absolutely virgin of you, wh*Tey.
Owen Moore
Go die in a fire. Why are you even here?
Isaac Rivera
I actually miss all the silly off-topic 2012 stuff these days. I feel like I relate to Yea Forums way less now that everyone is fighting about politics, because I'm not really political either way.
Luis White
I don't know user, maybe think about it for a second.
Kevin Ross
There are people who just want to be mad at everything for the sake of it and want everyone else to feel mad all the time.
That's it. That's literally it. Outrage culture solves for all of the shit people spew these days.
>2 singular developers in lead roles that control the general direction of the entire game >implying “anti-SJWs” for Bloodlines 2 didn’t whine about muh Cara Ellison even though she’s only one writer
Kevin Garcia
He's obviously trolling.
Parker Taylor
Minorities are minorities for a reason: they aren't liked and don't adapt to society. So the obvious question is: why would anyone want to ADAPT to minorities culture when it should be the other way? Simple as that.
Also, game is so shit that the most expensive version already give you ""free"" dlc and expansion
Brayden White
I am here to make you mad. And so is everyone else here. You're alone, no one likes you. You're not even remotely convincing, you play absolutely shitty weebshit games despite them being more and more friendly to us based and redpilled trannies, you're dead, your friends are dead, your family is dead, your fucking pets are being skinned alive, your Mom's a fucking whore, you suck at life the whole world hates you and you're going to hell. LIVE WITH IT MIGA/POL/CEL VIRGIN. GET FUCKING DABBED ON BY THIS BASED AND REDPILLED RESETERA CHAD WHILE YOUR ZOGNALD ASS IS A RAGING INFERNO
Adrian Phillips
The question you should be asking is "have videogames and releated controversies become more political?" I don't blame any particular event on Yea Forums becoming politicized, rather an increasing politicization of videogames.
It wasn't the 2016 election that drove political people to Yea Forums that is to blame for it. Rather it's Trump winning the presidency that has caused people within the game industry to double-down and try to push the societal meta back towards their direction.
Angel Reed
And we fucking hate wh*Te pasty faggots like yourself here almost universally. Now please go back to r/The_Zognald, MIGA/pol/cel virgin.
Gavin Ortiz
Cringe. Also too obvious.
Josiah Carter
So you have one example of someone who did not push their politics into the game they were making overtly?
Adrian Evans
(and that's a good thing)
Henry Adams
lol the tranny is trying SOOOO hard
Owen Wilson
>one or two purple haired devs out of a dev team of dozens, if not hundreds of people show up in an interview talking about their game >RUH ROH THIS GAME IS MADE ENTIRELY BY SJWs >lead designer of game talks about the importance of feminism, diversity, etc >T-that doesn’t count!
Easton Martinez
retard
Adrian Nelson
Holy shit this tranny is losing it.
Brody Russell
I want to pirate it to piss off SJWs but it most likely will be so terrible it wont even be worth a free download
Evan Allen
>It's human nature! >But fuck identity politics Pretty ironic, but that is human nature. Leftists wanted their diversity rainbow, got it and are now upset that it didn't just magically work out. Turns out that yeah, humans are going to start drawing lines in the sand even if it's IS as simple as skin color.
Josiah Jackson
Based Resetera makes ya seethe?
Carson Wood
>Cara Ellison even though she’s only one writer A bad one for sure.
Jace Bennett
The cult of Trump in action
Christian Davis
Was about to say. Seriously, this is literally one of their fucking threads.
And politics should stay out of games UNLESS there is a full commitment to them in the plot of a game. But even then, those politics need to have a balanced stance. The moment they skew to one side, shit's fucked and the entire message is ruined because it's become biased in one direction or the other. And more often than not, a lot of political games seem to be "left good, right bad" in the most blatant fashion possible. If people can't see how that's a problem, then they need to reexamine their lives.
Charles Morris
>based >a site that literally shat its collective pants because a voice actor didn't agree with their views
>i'm not really political That's nice, I guess it's hard to not take a stance on politics, but then surely you have the decency to worry why eternal vampires who drink humans for breakfast would give a single fuck about made up gender pronouns pushed entirely on the winds of ideological puff.
Cameron Bailey
>What exactly is the deal with this “Anti-SJW” bullshit in the gaming community? Majority of the world out side of Commifornia and Sweden is sane.
Christopher Peterson
See VtMB was not “fair and balanced” towards Republicans and Democrats and exclusively shit on Republicans
See VtMB wasn’t even fair and balanced in the portrayal of its own factions
Jose Wood
This, literally every normal person dislikes this shit.
Josiah Hughes
lol what happened?
Thomas Sanchez
I live in the UK, so I'm just going by what I see online, but I remember the 2012 US election being extremely "quiet", with just those Doom Paul images that were posted on Yea Forums at the time, while I feel like the whole Internet has gone nuts because of the 2016 election shitshow.
Caleb Jones
America and its obsession with identity politics was a mistake.
Gabriel Phillips
America was a mistake
Adam Turner
>but then surely you have the decency to worry why eternal vampires who drink humans for breakfast would give a single fuck about made up gender pronouns pushed entirely on the winds of ideological puff.
>gaming community >gamers Even normies are starting to become bored with the whole virtue signalling bullshit. Do you really think any normies really wants to play AAA games as a amputee trans womyn of color?
Jose Murphy
2012 election was an incumbent election, they usually lack the same hype especially if the counter pick is weak shit like Romney was.
A lot of games were unironically ruined by "sjw" writers mishired - Inquisition, Guild Wars 2 (thankfully they fired her) etc.
Hopefully recently EA fired 350+ merketing and analysts employes who told its executives "virtue signaling and hiring purple haired trannies is the way to get successful in modern year"
Another prime example was Mafia series litterally being ruined with Mafia III, while hated by all media journalist creator of original mafia btfo them all by making most successful rpg of the year with Kingdom Come Deliverance - making them seeths since there is no negros in medieval chechz europe.
Charles Hughes
This is the thing for me too. I just don't fucking care. People here sperging out isn't going to make me suddenly passionate about something I just don't care about. I just want to not see l have to talk about it in every thread.
Dominic White
They got in a huff about Reuben saying "BLM and Metoo are getting a little out of hand and need to dial it back" along with some stuff like how he believes Vic should be considered innocent until proven guilty. Cue retardera going ape shit and wanting him to lose his ties with Capcom AND have his mo-cap company burn to the ground.
Cooper Torres
That's just slight political jabs, par for the course with humor. The shit that goes on these days is literally "left good, right bad" shit.
Colton Richardson
The major problem about this game is that most people who throw a hissy fit about it probably haven't played the first game or the table top game. If they had, they'd know that white wolf has always been a bunch of hippies concerned with the representation of social outcasts and fighting THE MAN.
Wyatt Flores
Faima was pretty cooul though, I alway liked that character.
Leo Taylor
Funny thing is, we are at a golden age of writing, where writers can get away with a lot of shit that wasn't allowed or frowned upon a few years ago. The problem is, these people keep heralding their stories as "game changers" and "made espexidislly to put X people in place!". Challenging opposition directly like that only makes those same people come after you and resist the story, because they know what to attack and for what reason?
Whats the solution? Those idiots should keep their fucking mouths shut and write shit. Stop bragging about higher moral standing and virtue bullshit. Just writte and shut the fuck up about it.
Literaly every game would be better if it was about the desperate struggle of poor oppressed queer trans black trans muslim character against the evil white man and capitalism. Prove me wrong. That's right you can't! Honk Honk
I'm gonna play the game, probably enjoy it unless it's completely unplayable, and try to find some discussion on here that isn't completely about this stuff but that'll probably be rare.
Jackson Campbell
Sure let's make a deal: if you keep your orange retard and other alt right faggots out of tv, youtube and social media, then we will stop shitting on them in entertainment products and art.
Tyler Price
Films were better when writers had to be clever and slip things past the censors.
Sebastian Morgan
>we Cringe. You are alone. You are nobody. You don't matter.
Hunter Morales
lmao imagine insisting all people who hate forced politics are straight are you even gay? I'm married to the man of my dreams and you aren't
Brayden Diaz
>Golden age of writing >In a world where everything is offensive and you can get socially suicided for wrong think
Yeah, try writing a story about rape or make a joke about sexual harrasment. Try making a patriarcal character that isn't a satire. Try making a story about a muslim character that isn't presented as an angel.
Liam Butler
You can get away with all that if it's written good enough and if it's paid from your own pocket.
Carter Turner
Its not America, its Anglos.
Anthony Bell
C O P E
Kevin Long
>50 shades of rape It's okay if he's rich and handsome.
Justin Cruz
incels. the answer is butthurt incels.
Gavin Garcia
Your stupid gay vampire game is leftists garbage and its getting called out for being leftists garbage. Imagine being such a loser that you think everything against you is just MUH ANTI SJW.
>For every game to feature straight white dudes exclusively
That would be a nice change of pace.
Jaxon Gutierrez
You seem to be retarded, at no point are these pushing a political agenda, they aren't making an outright statement as to what ideas are good and acceptable, and what these ideas mean for society, even Damsel the Communist comes off as an overzealous bitch who loves to toot her horn, even looking at other Anarchs say Nines, having an issue with the rich isn't something explicitly political, he isn't talking about the redistribution of wealth, or the destruction of economic systems that allow imbalances, he's talking about his own hatred for those on top and his desire to kill them simply for being on top because of his own life experiences, there's no nuance in his stance, it's a sign that in spite of his position, he still holds naive political beliefs, showing a blunt edge of the Anarchist movement, you compare him to Jack, Jack is very smart, he doesn't lay it on, he keeps to himself, and he has a very good idea of what he's doing, he has clear political beliefs, but they have evolved through hundreds of years of vampirism, and are clearly vampire politics centric.
The rest of it is a retarded misunderstanding of poitically driven snark, and then trying to conflate it with ideologically driven ideas that are pushed in the new game, and the newer setting, things like gender pronouns, gay/human rights anarchist vampires, more i forget but look at the old games once more, they make similar snarky jokes about lgbt shit, characters implying others are gay for comical effect, an advertisement for a sexual reassignment clinic which is played in gest, and the game is full of big titted babes, all through the game, there's even a cheat to increase the breast size for fun. The game is clearly left, but it's nothing like how hard left the coming game is shaping up to be.
Josiah Ross
>What exactly is the deal with this “Anti-SJW” bullshit in the gaming community? The consequences of Anita Sarkisian and GamerGate, making bedfellows of reclusive nerds and vocal /pol/tards. Its a fucking tragedy, and I wish we'd walk away from this unholy union already. Its been said many times over the last few years, but the reverse-SJWs are becoming more annoying and destructive than the actual SJWs.
No you can't you nigger. You absolutely can't make a scene where the vilain rapes a girl just for shits and giggles and walk out of it alive.
Josiah Gomez
>incel
When leftists think calling other people virgins is an argument. No wonder you keep getting shot at.
Alexander Price
The right was always hell bent on radicalizing lonely men, giving them somewhere to belong as long as they say they believe in fascist ideals.
Jack Kelly
Yes, it was. And so were Bladerunner, and so was Neuromancer, and so are all the punky edgy genres of fiction or sci-fi. Are you new to this part of town, are you just visiting?
>the reverse-SJWs are becoming more annoying and destructive than the actual SJWs.
If the anti-SJW actually succeed in kicking out leftists from the gaming industry, shaming others for making this garbage, that I would consider that chemo and hope their success start influencing all other entertainment industries in the west. This type of shit shouldn't be accepted in society. People like this don't belong in our society.
So far they don't. So far, leftists are still allowed to radicalize and attack white people. And their gross beliefs are ruining my video games. Until then, I don't give a shit what they do.
Easton Mitchell
You will never be a girl and a disfigured penis is not a vagina. I'd drop a based "have sex" but you can't even do that because your genitals are all fucked up.
Mason Gray
I don't give a shit about that, I want to belong among netrunners, elves and vampires, but it was feminists that did the most damage to my "people" and my "world" that I like hanging out at. The reaction was called for, and the attack was largely repulsed, but why do we still have the dictator in charge when the barbarians are no loner at the gates is the real question.
lmao it's not a problem with Japanese games, just western games who hired left wing drones who got indoctrinated by Marxism
William Cruz
There's several movies that had done that in the past. In graphic detail. There's nothing stopping people from doing that again except having a contract with a big corporation that wants to keep their name clean. If it's an independent movie you can get away with a lot of shit, specially today.
Aiden Watson
You can. At least in America such things aren't illegal. If you mean public opinion, he already covered it by saying to pay for it out of your own pocket. There are already indie and fan games online or even h-games and others where you mutilate and rape for no purpose.
Isaac Watson
>DA RIGHT is DA EVIL
Oh go fuck yourself you little discord tranny. Only thing radicalizing here is promoting mass immigration, attacking white people, and brainwashing children in environmental determinism. Put a bullet in your brain discord tranny.
Lucas Diaz
lol how do you left leaning parasites come up with shit?
What's that? Westerners making another shitty game? How is that surprising? Leftism is the ideology of the ugly, so such beliefs will pollute everything they make. We need to expel western games from being discussed on Yea Forums.
Leo Turner
>If the anti-SJW actually succeed in kicking out leftists from the gaming industry I don't want "all the leftists" kicked, they are the ones making good shit. I just want the few destructive radicals out/shamed, and they already are. Mission accomplished, thanks for the aid. Now fuck off any time.
Thats because japanese games are shallow garbage for the most part.
>american center-center-left vs center-center-right >in any way representative of the political discussion
Jeremiah Sanders
I swear I have to make a conscious effort to read infuriating left wing retards to make sure that /pol/acks crossboarding don't turn me into a commie out of sheer annoyance
Charles Cox
I think the main problem nowadays it's that unfortunately with how many companies are rooting for diversity in any type of media, people have "un-learned" to recognize a forced character put there just to fill a diversity quota, or a legit good character. That in my opinion is what is damaging the vidya industry more than else.
Jaxson Long
The running joke used to be that GG feminists turned everyone into a nazi, now shitposting /pol/tards are turning people into commies. Sad!
If you actually played Japanese games and appreciated them beyond muh waifu fapbait you’d know that they have political themes, the devs just aren’t public about it. Many are anti-racism/discrimination, pro-environment, anti-corporation and anti religion
See FFVII is about pro-environmentalism >Tales of Vesperia is about pro-environmentalism >SMT Strange Journey is about pro-environmentalism >SMT in general is anti-organized religion >FFVI is about pro-environmentalism, anti-industrialization >MGQ is about intolerance caused by organized religion >Tales of Symphonia is about anti-racism, most of the Tales games in general are also anti-discrimination/intolerance >Tales series in general is about anti-discrimination >Sonic the Hedgehog is general anti-industrialism (save the animals from the evil machines) >BOF II is anti-organized religion >Grandia II is anti-organized religion >FFT is anti-organized religion >Valkyria Chronicles is anti-racism against Jews, anti-imperialism
Dylan Sullivan
>LOOK WE PUT IN A DARKIE! AREN'T WE GREAT!? But they don't do that though? Unless you're brainwashed and think that every instance of a black person in a videogame is the devs doing that.
Josiah Hughes
Who gives a fuck about what some pathethic faggot like you wants?
Carter Flores
Live and let live, I don't want to cause violence to my fellow men of any faith or blood. I just want to kill orcs with my elven waifu, but she is being sexually harassed by prude fat american lesbians.
PKD was head of a movement refusing to pay tax while the USA was bombing in Vietnam, for social justice reasons. Just because Resetera as a forum didn't exist in his day doesn't make his political views unknown. All of cyberpunk is sci-fi commentary on capitalism and fascism, if you have two brain cells to rub.
>Telltale shut down because of anti-SJWs stay delusional, incel Let's see you make a dent in the new Mortal Kombat and pretty much every other game incels are assblasted about
Kevin Williams
So I guess whites are becoming a minority too because nobody likes or tolerates them too.
Jack Jenkins
>Many are anti-racism/discrimination, pro-environment, anti-corporation and anti religion
shut the fuck up retard, bunch of Freemason Japs praising Gnosticism isn't politics
Colton Jackson
You give a fuck about what I want, thus you conversing with me on an anonymous anime forum. If you don't care, close the tab. You care. Fag.
Matthew Johnson
lol we will, Mortal Kombat hasn't been relevant in 25 years and will stay that way
Easton Baker
They like when games were NEVER ( and I mean NEVER) political like Halo's campaign, MW2's campaign, Assassins Creed's campaign, ect.
See? Nothing political! Certainly not!
Bentley Ortiz
ever thought that maybe it keeps happening because sjws keep putting their poltics into gaming? the old vampire didn´t have trannies and tons of hot chicks in skimpy clothes. the new devs who have nothing to do with the old games have already stated that the new game will be progressive and feature trannies but massively tune down the sexyness of the first game. people like you are either retarded or very dishonest. would you also get scream around if somebody started hitting you back after you punched him? because that is what you sound like. complaning that other people react to somebodies bullshit negatviely affecting something that they liked in the past
Daniel Phillips
>For every game to feature straight white dudes exclusively? Not really.
I want to see gay white dude vamps that are buff and hairy and not your typical vampire "sticc". Give me muscles. That's the true diversity I say.
Brody Morales
>PKD was head of a movement refusing to pay tax while the USA was bombing in Vietnam, for social justice reasons. Just because Resetera as a forum didn't exist in his day doesn't make his political views unknown. All of cyberpunk is sci-fi commentary on capitalism and fascism, if you have two brain cells to rub.
ok just looked it up and he claimed to never put politics in his work, so suck my dick you lying twat. fucking A
Chase Hughes
vampires are gay
Luis James
>So the obvious question is: why would anyone want to ADAPT to minorities culture when it should be the other way? Apply that garbage logic to music, movies, art, vidya, food, and literally anything ever. You are asking for our elite to turn into Walmart creatures, because "thats the norm". >bhwuhauhobhoahobboausoa i only meant mexicanness and no other human trait stop making me think Retard lol.
Dominic Kelly
Your right, for as immoral as Bush was he at least had half a brain.
Jeremiah Gomez
It's fucking simple. Keep your shitty progressive politics out of games. Including real world bullshit in fictional works is lazy writing at best and schoolroom lecturing at worst. I don't consume ENTERTAINMENT to be reminded of real life, I want to be entertained.
Dominic Brooks
See Stop pretending you played VtMB
Henry Parker
Writers and Editors War Tax Protest, look that up, brainlet.
Lucas Reed
Agreed! I assume you do not think including a gay character is political right? Or a black women? No different than including a straight white male right?
Michael Hall
>everything that assblasts me is irrelevant. anything bad that happens to anyone I don't like is somehow caused indirectly by me and my shitposting again: stay delusional. this is why you will lose. you'd rather believe the things that make you feel good than see reality. this is why the right fails at activism and will always lose in the end. keep shitposting and whining believing you'll still win because of "meme magic" lmao
Isaac Wright
See
Nicholas Lewis
>including transexual characters is violence
Juan Parker
Because I responded to you awful post? And close the tab? Because of pathethic brainlet like you? Just kill yourself.
Thomas Torres
Yes we don't want their fucking agenda's in our games or any of our other mediums. You are 100% correct. Also if its not a white male it better be a fucking Asian send up like original Low Wang's Shadow Warrior.
>>Telltale shut down because of anti-SJWs yep, it did cry seethe scream screech shit
Aiden White
>pre-order bonuses, DLC, and different editions announced a year off from release before we've even seen gameplay >Hardsuit Labs >faggots are still hyping it up to own the /pol/tards epic style
>At times, Dick criticized big government. In an interview shortly before his death, he cheered what he foresaw as “a great decentralization of the government.” He took swipes at the welfare state, declaring it a failure in solving economic problems. He even had kind words for then-candidate Ronald Reagan, believing him to be right about the draconian power of the federal government, which Dick regarded as “bad as the Soviet Union.”
>Nor did he shy away from being politically incorrect. A student of the Civil War, he attacked Lincoln “for contesting the supremacy of states’ rights.” As such, he favored Thomas Jefferson’s belief in states remaining autonomous with regard to the federal government, and saw Lincoln violating one of the founding principles of the US.
stop pulling shit out your ass
Julian Mitchell
You're exactly right as long as that character isn't shoehorned into the story to score political points.
Liam Cooper
>For every game to feature straight white dudes exclusively? I wonder how any games actually did this vs the number that didn't.
Austin Cox
mueller
Isaiah Foster
It shut down because it was literally watching an interactive video. People would rather watch an LP of the games than play them (Pewdiepies lets play of the first season has more views than the game has sales)
If anything their "Politics" made them even more sales.
Luke Myers
>he responded >got em Really showing your intelligence there m8. Come on dude, kill yourself. Improve the quality of the thread.
Anthony Clark
>our games which games have you made that you were forced at gunpoint to denounce oligarchical propaganda?
For just 10 cents a day you can feed little Jimmy to the hungry Nigerians.
Charles Cook
I don't remember anything happening in ME3 that even remotely fits that example.
Samuel Jenkins
>minecraft outsold every single shitty ass game on the left combined LMAO, how do you destroy your own argument this hard?
Gabriel Nguyen
My source: a document he co-wrote and signed. Your source: libertyconservative.com
That aside, if you had an inkling of political knowledge you'd know that being for decentralization and against big dictatorship governments is exactly what "leftist" means. You are just a brainwashed american. Now go and read his actual work, and not the Mises essay on his work. Dick isn't really subtle in his views of corporations and capitalism, not in the slightest.
Josiah Campbell
I am glad we can agree! A healthy diversity for the sake of variety or artistic vision is not bad.
Cooper Baker
The only people who want real world politics shoved down their throat in video games aren't even buying those video games.
At the end of the day the only games that really have this problem are western games and only for well established franchises that developers expect to sell well anyways so they shoehorn the politics in. Or localizations. You don't see any new franchises using this trash. At least not ones that go on to become popular. It's only the sequels you have to worry about.
Jace Wood
I don't know what that is. Something related to Drumpf I think? I don't follow amerishart politics that closely. Your nation is run by bankers and fascist corporations regardless of who much they virtue signal in media or who you have for president.
Asher Jones
it makes money for e-celebs.
Also, the culture has politics placed front and center in everything. Politicians are getting more popular than movie stars.. So seeing it in video games and the 'gaming' going on is a fact of life.
Ian Sullivan
I wrote what I think about the subject being discussed. You responded to me to say you don't care. Why are you in the thread? Why are you reading my posts? Why are you responding to me? You care. You are lying. To me? To yourself? Seriously give it the big think and reconsider your life.
Isaac Williams
oh yeah the left loves small government, what fucking dimension are you from?
Thomas Adams
You're right, I didn't because it kept fucking crashing on me but my point still stands. I'll alao add that the modern representation of vampires is boring exactly for the reasons I stated. They made vampires into "misunderstood" minorities instead of the hellspawn they are.
Chase Young
Watched some gameplay of the original game for like 20 minutes, like rate away the game is throwing black vampires at you and mostly taking place in the urban LA enviroment, it's pretty evident that the game was always kind of like this don't know where the shock comes from
John Bennett
This is a disingenuous post. If any of that referenced Trump you and one hundred other whiners would cry all day long about the forced political agenda and how SJW it is. VtMB does not mock Republicans and Democrats equally, it exclusively shits on Republicans repeatedly
Charles Russell
This thread is clearly a coordinated brigade
Juan Cruz
I'm from the "political knowledge extends beyond CNN and NBC talk shows" universe. Come visit any time.
What does this "cope" thing even mean? Why is it suddenly spammed so much on Yea Forums now?
Angel Perez
Call of Duty also outsold every game on that list, but I guess Yea Forums sure loved that series from its inception, huh?
Zachary Thompson
>You responded to me to say you don't care. A retarded post. It'a a trend with no end in sight.
>Why are you responding to me? You care. You are lying. To me? To yourself? You have serious problems and you are of low intelligence. Something tells me nobody would miss you if you were gone.
William White
>don't know where the shock comes from From the people who bring you striking societal commentary such as
Jackson Brown
>JUST GET HYPED BRO COME ON full hour of unedited gameplay or fuck off nigger
Why are you reading a thread if you don't care? Why are you specifically following and reading my posts if you specifically don't care about me? Why do you keep responding if you don't care at all whatsoever? You are being absurd.
Jordan Bell
lol ok pal, just make up your own world. quite the argument. I bet you'll deny Communism is left wing next
Colton Russell
The brainlet keeps exposing himself. You are good entertainmaint, please go on.
Gabriel Sullivan
urban settings and black people in games aren't lefist, brainlet. Is Dirty Harry leftist?
Josiah Clark
>I'm an INTELLECTUAL!
Joseph Bennett
in a nutshell, no one likes to be preached to in any form of media. especially if it's propaganda from the 'other' side of your political spectrum hopefully that clears it up for you. also I'm right leaning and this talk about pronouns in VtMB2 doesn't really bother me at all. I'm still going to buy it and play it.
WHAT PEOPLE SHOULD ACTUALLY BE PISSED ABOUT IS DAY-1 DLC PRE-ORDER BULLSHIT
Brandon Lee
Why do you respond if you don't care?
Chase Hughes
Pretty much this. You can expand on politics with ham-fisted identity and representation. I'm not against anything, it just has to be lovingly crafted, instead of cynically forced in, because all of a sudden LGBTQ/ progressive politics is trendy in advertising/ the media.
No one really wants it done this way. People aren't inherently bad, progress is good, but we can smell bullshit a mile off.
Juan Flores
And he's still going at it. I didn't think a person with brain problems could be this funny.
Nathaniel Thompson
Communism, as in the outdated last century idea, is a stateless society. Its not "big government", its the opposite, and a reaction against the alliance of big corporations with the government, and fighting against both. Literally read a book.
Hunter Rivera
I don't think the storypacks/expansion will be day0. And if you mean the stupid costumes I honestly couldn't care less. Now the ingame commentary sounds worth it
Cameron Morris
kill yourself
Jackson Robinson
Its an anonymous website, you can stop responding any time you want. You won't lose karma, people won't harass you in other threads about losing an argument. You slipped, saying you didn't care, despite obviously caring. Just walk away from this mistake, instead of further and further digging in. There will be no satisfaction when the thread reaches page 10 and you are just left saying I DONT CARE I DONT CARE in your 20+ posts of obviously caring.
Angel Baker
nice projection
you're still alone
Nathan Roberts
lmao, you have no clue what you're talking about. Adam Weishaupt conjured about the idea for a One World Government and then had Marx as his front man once he was exposed.
Michael Gonzalez
>Deus Ex >Barely ran when new, dives headlong into conspiratorial nonsense the left now accuses the right of getting neck-deep in >Fallout New Vegas >Lets you ally with a very literal patriarchy that enslaves women and children. >VTMB >A game that was so broken on release that it's fans had to fix it. >Mass Effect >A game that lets you push human supremacy
You sure about that, champ?
Like, I have no investment here, I don't care what games do well and what games do poorly but it seems that what people dislike is games that will commit to transparent propaganda and either ignore the flaws in what they represent or deny they even exist.
>Bioshock (libertarianism and Randian utopianism ultimately fails and turns into a dystopia)
Bioshock understands libertarianism about as well as flat earthers understand astronomy.
>Doom (anti-corporation)
Well now you're just reaching. I'm pretty sure Doom Guy is quite thankful for corporations giving him more demons to rip apart.
Jayden Stewart
And he is doubling down. Brainlets dig their own grave and have no idea they are doing so. Atleast you are amusing.
Levi Diaz
>“Anti-SJW” bullshit It's called being normal people.
Robert Bailey
Keep reading, and keep responding.
Jack Gomez
okay reddit
Nathaniel Cook
Communism was invented by a Jew used by Jews (Bolsheviks) to seize power from Russian monarchs. Anything exsitent to this is purely window dressing.
Justin James
It's a sickning ideology, no, a fucking insane religion. Of course I don't want it in my games. And it's not a matter of wanting less representation, it's only the way they do it that's wrong, hell I WANT all games to have female lesbian protagonists for fuck sake! Except SJW cunts would never allow them the way I and anyone sane would prefer, because SJW don't give a fuck about games or entertainment, it's all about their petty little person and their race to more and more power and controls because they're bitter and resentful individuals.
Mason Martin
SJW identity politics is cancer. It doesn't belong forced into games.
Jaxson King
Wow found out OP
Christian Thompson
And he thinks he is making a valid point. Continue posting so I can keep laughing.
Caleb Flores
>the leftists are the illuminati and want a world wide ussr!!!!
>the leftists are the jews and want a world wide israel!!!!!
Well, it's nice to have a free speech version of the same thread.
Jayden Edwards
>jimmy
Brody Brooks
SEETHING
Kayden Bell
I think he is legitimately correct in saying you are proving how much you care by how much you read and respond.
Jayden Jackson
you can read Weishaupt and his partners own thoughts, it's not a secret. He talked about a "Kingdom of the Just". Now would you be surprised to learn Marx was a member of the "League of the Just"?
Isaac Wood
Probably, I don't know what that is though, western games like that tend to mirror the decline of our society and try to depict things more realistically and before long it always just falls further left, if it was ever to do the opposite they would be made in opposition to realistic elements
Kayden Cox
>This is like saying the Star Wars Prequels movies aren't bad They aren't, though.
Also you need to understand what is important: Is it the game or is it the message? Gameplay, story, graphics, music and atmosphere is more important than SJW friendly checkboxing.
If the story is literally made and for SJWs, fine, we just won't buy it and we appreciate your upfront sales pitch. Shoehorning it into vampires who think people are cattle and are literally tribalist racists against each other. Yeah, real smooth entry for the SJW crowd.
Caleb Brooks
Thanks for misrepresenting my point. Was what I said wrong? Das Kapitol was written by Marx who was a Jew and the Bolsheviks in Russia were by and large Jewish. This is a historical fact, not a political conspiracy.
Caleb Campbell
>crybully Yea Forums >free speech Stop oppressing me, you SJW.
Ryder Turner
Another brainlet, assuming you are not sockpuppeting. Which you probably are.
Aiden Perry
how did you get mixed up so bad? this isnt reddit >grrr you and your orange man! this is Yea Forums video games
Lincoln Cruz
High IQ
Nolan Sullivan
you do realized they shit on democrats too.
Jason Edwards
you both have a conclusion in mind and are playing six degrees of kevin bacon to reach it
Oliver Russell
Nope. They only specifically name drop Republicans when insulting them
Jaxon Martinez
No I don't have a point other than that Communism is largely a Jewish invention and that this fact is not historically up for dispute.
Brody Wright
nah, Weishaupt literally ran a secret society that talked about what Marx talked about. It's pretty obvious, bud. They also were the ones who infiltrated the Freemason lodges before the French Revolution but I'm assuming even you know that already.
Ryder Rogers
...
Xavier Lopez
Do you think because they shoehorned a token gay muslim then that it makes it okay to shoehorn progressive shit now? Two wrongs don't make a right.
Lucas Nguyen
the tranny discord literally runs a secret society that talks about what marx talked about the /pol/ and kripchan discords literally run a secret society to talk about what marx talked about its not a high bar to pass
Connor Taylor
>OP literally copy pasted a resetera thread and it's gonna hit bump limit You win this time faggot
Revenge of the Sith is unironically the best Star Wars movie and nothing can change my opinion because it is a fact.
Parker Hill
If what they were saying was false, why do you feel the need to defend it? You can simple say, "It isn't" and move on, or at least, how about wait until they release it to start the bashing.
That you feel the need to go out of your way to defend it means they're obviously on to something.
Ryder Morris
/pol/ got completely, utterly, BTFO and exposed for being newfag Zoomers who don’t even know who George Bush is
Levi Lee
But you have always shat on them, part of the reason Cheeto Benito rose to popularity was backlash against your retarded garbage and your utter hatred of anything good in this world because you're evil and shit.
I can't speak for other people, but my personal issue with being anti-sjw is because more often than not (from what we've seen in other industries, such as the film industry), it interferes with telling an authentic, raw, or well-written story, because certain subjects ironically become taboo or forbidden to discuss, mention or portray.
It's just censorship in another form. It's odd because even though SJW-ism is considered to be leftist ideology it shares more with conservatism of the past in its insistence on censoring people's honest opinions regarding certain topics.
A lot of what made people gravitate towards liberalism back in the day was the freedom to portray anything in a good or bad light. Nowadays it's gone completely TOO politically correct with 'safe-spaces', or in cases of VtMB shit like 'we have to change how Malkavians are portrayed to be respectful to people with schizophrenia'.
It's dishonest posturing that is completely against what liberalism should be about.
Easton Collins
oh fuck off dickhead
Jaxson Wright
SEETHING
Hudson Hernandez
theres not having a generic straight white dudes and theres having a tranny or hamfisting your agenda learn the difference
Ryder Campbell
>Trump bad CNN reporting desu.
Joseph Moore
>PT brainlets are also alt-right retards shitting up Yea Forums color me surprised
so absolutely based that I bet people will seethingly reply instead of just hiding and reporting
Hunter Jackson
Dont worry your beloved and progressive multi-billion dollar overlords are keeping everyone right from Cenk Yoghurt out from everywhere basically. Which clearly isnt like ruining everything and everyone, clearly
I never paid attention to the political garbage threads on Yea Forums, I remember back in 2012 there was always a Gamergate thread on the frontpage, but I never opened any of them, and to this day I still don't know what the fuck all that was about. However, for sure, there are tons more political threads on Yea Forums now, it seems like every new game is getting its own politics shitposting thread.
Maybe I'm too disconnected to care, what with not being American and all, but I just play games don't worry about politics. It helps that I don't play AAA westernized garbage too much. The last few games I've been playing had strong female characters but it didn't feel forced at all. Half the cast of important characters in Metro Exodus were women and they were badass, and it didn't feel forced at all to me. Playing Vermintide 2 recently there's two female characters and I like them quite a lot. I've been playing Destiny 2 and I don't really notice much political BS, yeah there's like no white males but it doesn't feel like a political message is being sent, Ikora isn't even a "woke" character pushing an agenda. I think you guys are too obsessed with politics.
I would prefer that people just stop demonizing entire demographics of people that often are a part of the audience. Being an SJW isn't synonymous with being liberal or tolerant it is in fact the opposite of that, SJWs are not tolerant of anyone outside of a few approved groups, everyone else they treat with scorn. When people say they don't want SJW politics in games what they are saying is they don't want more games that sacrifice gameplay, story and memorable characters in order to monologue about how much white people or men, ask yourself would you want to play a game written entirely by the alt right? No? than why would anyone want to play a game written entirely by their mirror universe twin?
Hunter Phillips
Just don't buy EA.
Isaac Price
>Hopefully recently EA fired 350+ merketing and analysts employes who told its executives "virtue signaling and hiring purple haired trannies is the way to get successful in modern year"
This is one hell of a spin but it might actually give me hope in EA.
Xavier Hall
>someone got so butthurt because of this image he decided to make his own version of it lmao
Dylan Phillips
decided to visit Yea Forums after like 5 years since hyped for bloodlines
nobody's talking about the game, gg
Carter Robinson
It's just sort of the state things are in right now; everyone is obsessed with politics, finding it where it actually isn't, everyone's gone fucking paranoid about an "anti-x message" when realistically the developers aren't trying to send one the vast majority of the time.
Even in cases where marketers (not even developers themselves) try to be "inclusive" and shit, they never say a damn thing about not wanting white people or straight people or whatever to enjoy the game as well, but everyone takes it that way.
I chalk the vast majority of this shit up to the current political climate, everyone's mad, sometimes in more than just one sense of the word.
Austin Jackson
>>Syndicate (anti-corporation) you were a corporation in that.
>>Mass Effect (pro-diversity) I'm pretty sure in the original you could play all humans and be down right racist/hostile against all aliens you meet.
>SMT in general is anti-organized religion yeah, nah. Morally neutral (you choose) and you end up fighting your opposite moral position for whatever power you deem valuable and macca.
Aiden Morales
No kidding, the 2016 election made the internet into a huge shitshow. It's all orange man bad now.
Lucas Parker
there is subtle and effective, and blatant and pandering. Which do you think this is?
Christopher Bailey
try the other thread. There has to be a decoy one like this
Josiah Scott
I mean that's part of it, sure, but it's not just "orange man bad" it's literally fucking everyone that's gone nuts now, trying to see discrimination or hatred where it realistically doesn't exist just because the states got some madman in office. This kinda shit happened before and the world didn't blow up, so I have no clue why everyone's freaking out now, just because Trump is a little more public about being an asshole.
Probably just social media tearing society a new one again.
Gabriel Davis
It's almost as if everyone is sick of your fucking shit. If you stupid cunts were content to leave games as ENTERTAINMENT they're meant to be instead of trying to force them to be embarrassingly hamfisted "progressive" propaganda, this would not be an issue. But you can't just fucking leave them alone, can you? Everything people enjoy has to be turned to shit.
Alexander Wilson
>I remember back in 2012 there was always a Gamergate thread on the frontpage
Wasn't GG a 2014 thing?
Jose Jones
You realize this is LITERALLY a copypasta, right? Some retard said this on resetera, and now it's being posted here to piss you off. You're a moron and you fell for the bait, you disgrace, you fucking mongrel.
Ayden Clark
Dilate.
Nathaniel Ward
fuck whitey, am i rite! It's not like I'm writing/speaking English or anything.
Charles Reed
Life is not fair. Humans are not equal. Get over it.
Representation is okay when it is deserved (and important/LOGICAL to the game' s story), not when some quota has to be fulfilled.
Noah Turner
I don't even know anymore, the last 10 years are all a blur to me.
Carter Adams
>low iq trannies don't understand vtmb or star wars imagine my shock
This. I don't remember a single person complaining about Lee Everett in TWD being black, because it made perfect sense, it was a southern area, a lot of blacks in those areas, and it actually had some effect on who he was as a person and how people treated him in some cases.
Xavier Rodriguez
As future years will be, all until the bombs drop. Just wait it out a little longer my friend.
Julian Howard
Americans are so fucking stupid lmao
Aaron Hill
you hate it when people disagree with you, you hate it when people complain, suck it up or leave, snowflake.
Can't have an anti-SJW opinion! fuck Drumpf!
Aiden Gray
I see. I only vaguely remember stuff from the past myself, but I remember being on Yea Forums at the time of 2012 stuff like /vg/'s creation and lostboy.exe, and I don't remember GG happening on that year.
Jace Moore
To be fair, Democrats at least only have bad ideas. Republicans have bad ideas AND are kind of the party of racist evil kill em all South Will Rise Again homophobic muh gunz nutjobs.
Zachary Fisher
can someone explain how do nagaraja keep their humanity? or is that just not a thing for them
seems like you'd have a lot of issues with feeding if you'd literally have to eat people
Cameron Bailey
>“Keep your politics out of my games!” >“This is total SJW nonsense!” >“Muh representation!” Making chicks ugly, making their bodies ugly and dressing them in outfits that cover as much as the situation allows and purging dialogue or content of anything and everything that could be deemed offensive in "current year". That is THE LITERALLY ONLY THING that makes me anti-sjw. I don't give a fuck about trannies, blacks, women in power, female protagonists. Never have, never will, i just want my eye candy.
Adrian Brown
The Japs have fascist leanings. Most of the eco stuff is Eco-fascism.
Hudson Martin
>i don't care about feminism, i just want to objectify women
Sebastian Myers
Not them, but I am curious when it comes to people wanting eye candy, would you be okay with having some ugly characters if the majority are good-looking? I promise I'm not trying to antagonize or be a cunt, I'm just wondering.
Isaac Foster
Note the one simple difference between that and modern politics in video games
>They ridicule both sides
That's it. They will maybe put a ''transphobic'' character in it that gets killed for YASSS QUEEN SLAY points but don't expect anything better than that.
They shit on socialism too, and the true ending is individualism (not a socialist or collective end)
Ryder Robinson
There really should be a game with a racist character who isn't ALL bad, honestly. People would bitch and moan that it's "humanizing" racism or whatever, but yeah no shit, racism is a human trait, as awful as I believe it is, I don't think someone being racist makes them a through-and-through shitty person, it's not like every single racist wants to shoot up a black neighbourhood or whatever, most of them just don't want to associate with them.
They've usually got their own reasons for it, reasons that they actually thought about over their lives to that point, but that's never shown or talked about, we just say "racism bad", which I agree with, but nobody wants to talk about how people become racist in the first place. Why the fuck is there no game exploring that?
Levi Edwards
Yea Forums gets triggered very quickly over minor things like insecure children.
Oliver Perry
Based user
Grayson Perry
it would take guts, and a very competent game writer. I don't even think there's 5 good writers that work in the video game industry.
but yeah good point user, maybe we'll see that sort of thing in like a 100 years
Mason Roberts
Funny how once you're a vampire being Muslim and Gay suddenly doesn't count much to your identity. You become non-human, your human bullshit fades away into night and blood. I suppose the politics/rules are the only human vestige left.
You don't realize that /pol/ hates neocons as much as commies.
Robert Martinez
I don't even think it would take a good writer, honestly. Just look up what racists say, ask some of them with an open mind how they came to their conclusions, it wouldn't be hard or anything, should be easy for someone who's compassionate to see where anyone's coming from, even a racist.
Bentley Butler
>GEORGE BUSH DOES NOT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE
You have to be underage or retarded or both.
Lincoln Reyes
Because you fucking contrarian moron, this isn't a forum for fucking politics, its for video games. If it was up to me politics would be 1000% banned from any non /pol/ board with no warning. That said I am going to show how stupid peoples critiques are if we are going to allow it.
You are the ones shitting up this site, spamming your redpills and fucking stupid shit.
Adam Sullivan
Been here longer then you. Also >hurr durr complaing about SJWs shitting up the industry with politics is shitting up the board is politics
If there was no SJWs, there would be no politics on Yea Forums. Simple as that.
This. /pol/ hates bush with a burning passion and they celebrated when McCain died.
Andrew Cruz
the problem is less about the content of the game itself and more the way it's marketed if the developers didn't trip all over themselves, in the first hours after the announcement, to let everyone know how progressive they were, no one would be complaining if they just said "new vampire game guys! it's gonna be awesome!" public response would be overwhelmingly positive and if the put a lot of politics into it in the end, but didn't focus on it in the marketing, some would complain but not as many because people have a mental need to find things to like about something they purchased and spent time on
Nathan Collins
I don't care. I don't value women less than men, i just want them to look pretty in vidya. Fuck, make the guys dreamy too, i don't care. Just don't chicks ugly. Look at Ciri, huge fucking scar, she's still pretty because her face shape, her complexion etc. is still attractive.
There is no "them" on, it's he. What are the chances you're running into a woman on Yea Forums? 10%? Maybe 20%? Assume, it's fine. Some ugly chicks are fine, the original had the bums who are ugly as fuck and the old lady in the diner isn't attractive either. But thats it, all the other women in Bloodlines 1 are cute and that's how i like it.
Colton Brown
They weren't staging protests, ruining standup or banning neocons from speaking on campus. The left has screwed the pooch and hyperventilate when people demand free speech.
Zachary Martin
it's kind of like niche fetishists no one really cares that you like a thing, they just care that you can't shut up about your fetish
John Wright
I've accidentally made a habit of using them, I don't know why that's a problem but alright
That's fair then, I've just seen a ludicrous amount of people who see even a single ugly person and lose their shit, but you're aight and I agree that most girls should be cute as fuck
Brandon King
Your post only shows you have no idea what objectification means. It is the unpersoning of a person, and only referring to them as their utility or function. It has nothing inherently to do with boobs or sex, and isn't specific to incel weebs. Read a book lmao.
Luis Torres
Videogame characters aren't people.
Bentley Cruz
Remember when Elizabeth had nice juggs and then SJWs shit the bed and they resized the model, how fucking sad can you get that you complain about a character model's bust size. This is what we mean with SJW bullshit infecting gaming.
Hudson Perry
isn't complaining about SJW crap and shitting up the board with politics the same as the developers pushing their SJW crap?
half the board literally doing the same thing as the devs, thx
You have the Chinese mentality. You don't want entertainment with ugly characters when you could have amazing ones. Why lift a hunk of shit when you can be surrounded by gold.
Xavier Adams
Nice try, ResetEra faggot. Relativists are scum.
Ryan Cooper
We didn't start it, they intruded on our "male" space.
Joseph Howard
>If there was no SJWs, there would be no politics on Yea Forums. Simple as that.
This, if it wasn't for SJW and their stupid censoring BS, all this /pol/ nonsense wouldn't be here.
Luis Morgan
I think a lot of you on the trump side aren't seeing the perspective of people who have been here for years and have only recently realized that a lot of your politics directly impact them negatively.
Its unfair to call everyone here who's a liberal a resetera poster. I've been here since like 2012 and its been harder and harder to just be here and have any kind of conversation.
Donald Trump and his policies don't benefit me, they do the opposite. I'm hispanic, and I happen to be a faggot (that second part im sure this place helped with somewhat) and its quite obvious Trump, the GOP, and plenty of you would probably rather I not exist or would rather I just be normal. I'm not changing anyone's minds here but try to put yourself in someone else's shoes. I do it all the time for conservatives. We're all people. Everyone's so preoccupied on calling conservatives retards and calling libs retards they forget this.
All this said, does anyone really believe the United states is better off with Trump and other GOP people in power? Do you all forget that when not distracted by shrieking purple haired women the GOP is against you all? You all constantly make wagie jokes while working wagie jobs. You vote in the people who exploit you all.
Because, to me, vidya is about a fantasy. I want shit giving me, at least the illusion of, the option to be going my way. I have a very clear idea of what i like and anything that deviates from that makes me like it less, the more it deviates, the less i like it.
Owen Ross
When I say "male", it's what they labeled it and proceeded to attack it and infect developers with their ideology. This pattern has be recycled for comic books, video games, metal, tabletop, MTG, you fucking name it. Pure cancer.
Brayden Gray
kill yourself
Wyatt Reyes
>I've been here since like 2012 newfag But /pol/ are somehow still newer
Aiden Murphy
They are representation of people, and they influence your view of people. Just like how watching 1000 hours of political content on Youtube influences your view on people, even though its just video.
Being retarded is not actually a requirement for posting on Yea Forums, oddly enough.
Austin Morgan
Also been here since 2012, you spic faggot. First of all, not everyone here is American (I'm German for instance) so I don't give a shit about the GOP or the DNC or whatever. I would consider myself a reactionary libertarian and I really don't give two shits about your "race". In every part of the western world "Hispanics" are considered white. In fact, all this race politics bullshit is completely alien to me as a European. I don't care what you look like, I don't care if you are a sissy faggot, just leave me the hell alone and I'll leave you alone. Why are fuck are you even bringing up Trump? What does Trump have to do with SJWs shitting up video games? They've been doing that for nearly a decade now.
/pol/ was established in late 2011
Jaxon Gutierrez
so SJWs are infiltrating entertainment industries to push their agendas, are they nu-scientology?
alternatively free market and capitalism, which would mean the non-SJW is a dying breed who will succumb to the muslim tranny antifa helicopters
get fucked
Leo Ward
>What the hell do these people want exactly? For every game to feature straight white dudes exclusively? Because it seems like every time a new game is announced to veer away from that, it’s written off as “SJW”.
Please learn to troll.
Carson Baker
>They are representation of people, and they influence your view of people. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. No. Go eat a dick faggot.
>"Sexy women on posters rewire your brain so you treat women IRL as soulless blowup dolls without agency."
That is literally your argument and it's so mindbogglingly stupid that it makes me want to bash my skull in with a baseball bat.
Ryan Price
>/pol/ was established in late 2011 Do you actually think that the current /pol/ has anything to do with pre-election /pol/ or even more so pre-/pol/harbor?
Luke Kelly
nobody gives a fuck who or what you are, just stop shitting up games. You can hate Trump all you want, it's very fashionable to do so.
Does anyone believe the United Sates is better off with Trump? Yes.
I think the core problem you have is that you don't understand the United States, it's traditions, culture and rights. United States culture isn't built for gay Hispanics, it just isn't, so you'll always feel like an outsider, that's neither my or your fault, it's just the way it is. Countries are built on the family unit, taxes, law, rights and the violent force used to enforce/protect the above. And as long as the dems are against the fundamental building blocks of America and its culture you can sure as shit believe DJT is the best bet for right now.
And before you make an argument, no, gays (even with modern science) can't replace the family unit, they can only mimic it.
Brayden Martin
Cultivation theory is the most popular theory in TV and mass media. Its also used by your peers to push away stuff like gay parades, degeneracy shows from TV, etc.
Luke Lewis
Do you actually think that the current Yea Forums has anything to do with pre-election Yea Forums or even more so gamergate?
Easton Perry
>the cancer points to itself as an argument for itself
Sebastian Bailey
>/pol/harbor The best thing that ever happened to that shithole. I miss moot
Zachary Thompson
>Its not "big government" Oh yes because the governing body doesn't call itself "government" suddenly it stops being one despite working precisely as one.
Jacob Price
They're like the borg, they can't produce their own things so they just infect/assimilate and move along.
get fucked? no, fuck you.
Jason Gray
I thought /gg/ was pretty stupid back in 2014 and I still think it was cancer. That's coming from the person who edited THIS video: youtube.com/watch?v=WcebgKvAoh0
Brody Adams
moot is a sell out trophy hire for google. He was working for google+ and even that shit failed.
Robert Diaz
GG as a "games journalism is a mafia" was legit. GG as anything else was just /pol/ casuals who only have the most surface entry level understanding of video games raiding us. And they never left. The radicalization and casualization of Yea Forums go hand in hand, because its the same parasites doing it.
Zachary Evans
>now has a high paying job working for google in Tokyo >now knows japanese He's living the fucking dream
Brody Cruz
>just stop shitting up games. I'm not a developer or a publisher.
>United States culture isn't built for gay Hispanics, it just isn't
I'm not even sure how to respond to this. Neither of these groups are going anywhere. They've both been around since the conception of the US.
Colton King
Working for the good censor, I'm sure his dreams are coming true.