What were they thinking?

hahahahahahaha
Holy shit thats the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. Weebs are truly deranged.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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They were going to a fight, but didn't know what to wear.

>255 accuracy
>crits on demand
>renzokuken

Gunblades are awesome

I mean I guess he is trying to say it's like the High Frequency Blade in Metal Gear?

But that's fucking retarded because no Gun could generate that amount of energy.

I mean you could use the blast to accelerate the slash, that would give it more force.

But that isn't how Leon uses it.

the red queen feels like a less stupid version of the gunblade, it has the same concept (pull trigger and get a more powerful slash) but since its presented as a fire effect and not a gun that doesn't actually fire its not as dumb to me
if the gunblade actually functioned like a monster hunter gunlance it wouldn't be so silly but the way it works as some kind of ork-made high frequency blade is just bizarre

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But then the rounds would blow up the revolver cylinder. even if there wasn't an actual bullet, just an explosive charge. Squall's hands would've been blown off long ago if that were the case.

Nomura and FF in general are just scatterbrained with their ideas, like the deeper-autism side of Deviantart.

Quality, beauty and fun.

On a somewhat related note: who taught this guy how to use a belt?

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>it doesn't just shoot the blade at the speed of a bullet
What a waste

>£15 difference between collectors and normal
>still tempted because of ff8

i hate myself sometimes

Where does the bullet go?

i always figured they were just blanks but i don't know if that would make enough of a vibration
then again i don't think anything would make enough of a vibration to actually work

thats just stupid enough to work

I don't like FF8 but that weapon is cool.

>belt
the entire outfit reeks of gay.

You'd need a shit ton of gunpowder for that. Or magic, I guess.

Gun blades are stupid but we accept all the other FF retardation?

Where do the blanks go? It looks like theres a chamber with nowhere to exit.

Such as?

The Virgin Gunblade vs The Chad Red Queen.

if your telling me you don't think this skinny twink can swing around a solid 100lbs of metal then i don't know what to tell you

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They were thinking lets make a weapon so badass it defies logic.

>magic
>magic-ra
>magic-ga

>belts
>zippers

>learning skills from wearing clothes/equips

>giant swords

>Nomura-fagging

something something mako infusion

FF8 was a good game, fuck the haters.
I hope FF7's remake does well so they'll get confidence in more remakes and remake 8 with its bad features cut out or fixed.

don't mock the proud japanese tradition of complete asensical incoherence

They can't remake 8. They lost the assets.

>>learning skills from wearing clothes/equips
I mean, is that any different from learning magic from espers/materia/Drawing magic?

How did they do the steam/ios ports then? And if we're talking a proper remake no assets from 8 could be reusable everything is polygonal and low resolution.

Remake user. As in literally recode it from the ground up as a totally new experience like what they did with FF7.

But without it being kingdom hearts action RPG shit like the 7 remake.

Kuken means penis in Swedish. It was always embarassing showing off ff8 to friends and they went hihihi kuken!?

>suplexing trains

>giant magic crystals

>"limit breaks"

>Coleman products

>Spoony bards

>clown overlords

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>Not having a sword that is also a projectile
>And an Axe
>And a Rod
>And two smaller swords
Rebellion is the greatest weapon in Final Fantasy and Garland is the only one worthy enough to wield it.

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>tfw FF8 becomes more fun if you just abuse Renzokuken and don't play it the "normal" way

It's like an action rpg or something

its why he knocks everyone down

the product placements in xv made me lose my shit, its like they really needed to make up for how much money the dev time ate up

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Well yeah, but that stuff all makes sense in the appropriate settings.

He got knocked down ten minutes into the game, though.

and yet its a hugely successful franchise so clearly there's something to all that

i think that it's always delivered so straight and matter of factly. you accept it like you would a good farce, and it never intrudes on the main drama

>Weebs
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Vibroweapon

I love how the game paints Squall and Seifer as exceptionally talented because "gunblades are hard to use." So like I could show up swinging a fucking stop sign as my signature weapon and everyone would be like "wow he must be a fucking savant!

I like how the actual noodles are never seen, always hidden away by toppings

I thought it was cool until I realized there was no barrel

>You'd need a shit ton of gunpowder for that.
lmao you actually tried to bring up logic

Because he planned it that way. He then got to lounger around grinding bats and shit for days until he grew two more arms, turned yellow, and learned hownto cause natural disasters by waving his hands.
And THEN he went to Dissidia and got Rebellion.

Who do you think broke the Gunblade out first? Squall or Seifer?

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>belts
>zippers
This shit started in the same game as the gunblade.

Seifer, he has a penchant for cheating.

>You encountered a SAVANT ANONYMOUS!

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At least it's a sword. Like just a sword. It's an exaggeration but it's not some 8th grade fanfiction bullshit.

Then he got knocked down again two thousand years ago.

It's Final Fantasy. Weapon technology doesn't have to make sense. The "rounds" are explosives and the energy is channeled up the blade instead of down into Squall's hand. Shit's just magic yo, don't be autistic.

>Balamb Garden will never be real
>you will never choose your own weapon and go on cool missions

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Yeah, and he still became immortal and did it all over again, infinitely.

this is legitimately true, it's in the FF8 ultimania guide
vibroblade my dude
there's no bullet, just a powder charge

He had MAKO ENERGY you idiot, of course he could lift it.

So why does it need a chamber and a trigger? Why not just magically go boom when it collides with a target?

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Seifer. He's a huge nerd that obsessively watched that movie that Laguna starred in using a gunblade.

That's a nice mop.

I always assumed he was wearing a gunslinger belt on top of a regular belt.

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In theory it could work. There's a real life tool called a ramset gun that is used to drive nails into concrete by firing blank cartridges. It's strong enough to bust open steel padlocks. The problem with a gunblade is you would need a huge blank shell to overcome the inertia of the blade for it to actually add any noticeable amount of power.

That sash they added to Squall in Dissida....ruined everything about Squall's design forever.

So he planned to be knocked down infinitely across a two-millennia span?

Makes sense if he had a gun, but that belt ain't holdin no gunblade, brother.

Yeah, that's why gunblades are dumb IRL, but it makes complete sense in-universe.... because everything is sci-fi high-fantasy and everything was drawn up just because it's "cool".

Nothing wrong with that, until weebs start overthinking shit.

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Yes. Garland enjoys fighting, not necessarily winning. Plus he gets to go into Dissidia every time too and fuck shit up however he wants there.

>At least it's a sword. Like just a sword.
>"The Fusion Sword (合体剣, Gattai Ken?, lit. Combined Sword) is a six-piece sword assembly wielded by Cloud Strife."
>"As a set of six swords, the blades come in a variety of shapes and sizes and are thus suited to a variety of combat situations. They combine to a single large sword similar in size and function to Cloud's iconic Buster Sword."

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see
faggot

>Comparing something in Advent Children versus something actually in game.

>Cuked means penis in Swedish
Shit man, you are killing me

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In Dissidia, he wields hit like a gunslinger. Plus, he's got that huge fucking thing on the side of one of his legs. Maybe it's to put his gunblade in?

I'm not excusing the design of him overall, but I do see where they were trying to go with it.

>instead of character development they just made weapon development

Advent Children was a damn waste of time.

>Advent Children

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I never understood this aspect of FFVIII. The gardens were at their core military schools training kids to be child soldiers. But the tone of the game doesn't seem to paint this as a bad thing or even a necessary evil. It's always depicted as awesome and something only the best can achieve. And that keeps getting reinforced as every adult in the game defers leadership to this 17 year old recent graduate like it's a perfectly rational thing to do. It's weird. It's not like most RPGs where the kid hero just happens to stumble into an adventure. Squall is given command over multiple missions and eventually an entire military institution.

I guess FFVIII is when the franchise crossed over into anime cliche territory.

unironically love this sword more than the buster sword, wish it was in FFXIV

>I guess FFVIII is when the franchise crossed over into anime cliche territory.

Was this your first FF game? Genuinely curious.

>anime cliche territory
Are you really surprised? Also it is kinda okay since in fiction you can simply remove all the bad parts and keep the coolness.

>Leon

>training kids to be child soldiers. But the tone of the game doesn't seem to paint this as a bad thing or even a necessary evil. It's always depicted as awesome and something only the best can achieve
Is this your first game from japan... ?

What if you designed a sword that had gun barrels on the back side of the blade so that when you shoot them, the recoil propels the cutting edge forward which allows it to cut harder

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>Cloud's iconic Buster Sword.
Speaking of which, does anyone else find it annoying when RPGs have the character's iconic weapon be rendered obsolete within the first 20 minutes of the game and then for the rest of the time you're just equipping random weapons that don't show up in any artwork?

>anime cliche territory
>kids in school uniforms engaging in warfare
What was your first clue? VIII was the first big dip in writing. If it had VA it would be just as obnoxiously retarded as X.

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>Tell all teenagers that they're elite soldiers in training.
>Ship them off to schools in bum-fuck nowhere.
>There's no other teenagers anywhere but the Gardens
>Live free of millennial teenagers shitting up the city.

Why don't we do this Yea Forums?

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No. I had played VI and VII prior. Technically played 1 but too briefly to count it. I finished 1 and all the others post-VIII.

You'd likely burn the shit out of your hand and/or arm.

Obviously not. He's citing it as contrary to prior entries.

Why not just swing the sword normally and not risk horrible injury for minimal gain?

I'm not surprised, just saying that VIII was the point of no return for the series. I think that's why I like XII so much. It was a nice breath of fresh air from what had become the norm.

Funding and taxes. Sales for services and products would also go down for stuff like movie tickets and candybars.

it looks dope

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The chad gun hammer vs the virgin gun blade

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I've never played XII but looking at combat for it is really bizarre. It looks like a beta for XIII.

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Pretty sure IX was a call back to classic FF, too.

I'm surprised you don't consider VI and VII to be anime cliches.

VII was pretty much shonen-bait and VI was Nausicaa.

Also the art was made by the same guy who draws Vampire Hunter D.

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>cut harder
This is what's dumb about the whole thing. A sword is meant to stab, cleave and slice through shit by design. A sword that's capable of penetrating whatever it's cutting into has no need to "cut harder."

That's what this thing in Metal Slug does, though it's a piston rather than a blade.

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>Exploding Dog Cannon

FF8 fags will defend this.

Not him, but I hated XII. The combat system just isn't good. Neither is the license system. The story is pretty fucking "meh," too.

>capcom never let you stab the red queen into the enemy to ride it

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Wait is that a real thing or some custom build?

>that would give it more force.
It would also give it recoil assuming it just didn't shatter the blade instantly.

VII was relatively grounded so I wouldn't consider it shonen, and I haven't a clue what the fuck Nausicaa is.

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Squall is a lame name. Leon is way cooler.

What if you just stuck a bayonet on a taurus judge and stabbed people with it?

Rule of cool.

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I'm fucking pissed off that's not there. dante can't do wild stomp or ride enemies either. I thought for sure these would be in 5.

*blows you up with an exploding dog*
defend that fagboy

>taurus judge

Is that meme of a gun still being sold?

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I was meaning using the recoil to speed up the slash.

But I forgot the barrel is pointed down the length of the sword point. Not the opposite direction.

Dumonthier

No one did that's why he has so many. It took him several tries to keep his pants up.

Seifer because its mentioned that hes failed his SEED exam like 3 times before IIRC

So PE2 gunblade?

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The charge-assisted pilebunker is a classic mecha weapon.

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Yeah its kinda annoying
Atleast Tidus has no reason to not use brotherhood for like 70% of the game in FFX

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the gunblade and Red Queen are literally thes ame shit though. Push button, make big fire, big fire do more damage

Wyvern Ignition Impact is kind of like that but it has jets instead of gun barrels
Guts in Berserk also uses his cannon arm to propulse the dragonslayer in a panel or two IIRC

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>the rest of the time you're just equipping random weapons that don't show up in any artwork?

The Hardedge shows up on artwork where he rides the bike.

VI was more or less standard evil empire fare with the Joker. And even if there is anime with similar themes, anime in the 80s and early 90s was noticeably different than what came later on. It's all about degree. There's something more "weeb" about FFVIII if that makes sense. There's nothing "weeb" about Vampire Hunter D. It's a horror action movie at it's core. Most of it's inspiration is rooted in Hollywood cinema.

And I wouldn't call VII shonen at all. Blade Runner was a big inspiration. And in fact it subverts almost every RPG cliche that existed at the time. If you were an RPG fan in 1997, FFVII would have fucked you up. The cool badass elite warrior? Actually one of the random mooks you've been beating up the whole time and an insecure dork to boot. The busty brawler? Actually a romantic who wants to be saved by her hero. The cute white mage? Actually a street wise and manipulative conniver who uses her looks to her advantage. Every time the game gives you a standard trope to digest it's waiting to pull the rug out from under you later on. It's constantly misdirecting you.

Wasnt that an unofficial magazine cover

>Equip Brotherhood in the beginning because its decent
>Swap it out for the new weapons as you get them
>Brotherhood upgrades its stats to become top after you do the Farplane scenes
>Keep Brotherhood equipped until you get Caladbolg, which you use for the rest of the game
That's every playthrough for me. I know I can make some custom weapons, but Caladbolg does almost everything I want it to already.

You can buy some sword right before the frozen lake that's better than the brotherhood though. IIRC it has first strike and 3 empty slots, which is way more valuable than strength +10%

>There's nothing "weeb" about Vampire Hunter D
Have you read the books? It's pretty weeb. In the first chapter or two of the first book, he threw a toothpick at a vampire to try and stake it in the heart, and let some human with a whip grab his legs and fling him through the air, only to land on his feet without seeming remotely impressed.

Oh, and the vampire caught the toothpick and flung it back at him.

I'm pretty sure it's official art, but I could be wrong.

not that user but you dont get the any decent materials to fill in blank slots unless you want to grind them early for no reason
Sensor and +15% strength is good even if you have to swap tidus out or equip a different weapon a handful of times to get rid of the waterstrike(really only against blob sphere)

But gathering the money and spheres to actually upgrade those into decent weapons is a pain when I'll get Caladbolg soon anyway. Upgraded Brotherhood also has Sensor, which lets Tidus be the scan guy instead of needing Wakka to use one or have Kimahri use Scan every fight.

>black guy
>actually raising a child, thats not even his to boot

There's a reason it's considered to be in the "fantasy" genre.

Never got the hate. Even if you're a faggot that thought it was a sword that shoots bullets then that's exactly what a bayonet is and that defined warfare for centuries. It's just a lowtech vibroblade.

Japanese men literally dressed like this to pick up girls in the 00's.
Once in a while you still see the odd 40-something Japanese man with the squall hair and same low-cut Vee neck shirt in a bar.

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>this is what Asian women want out of Asian men

But somehow they prefer to date bearded white dudes, too... I don't get it.

Fashion trends are like that in Japan. Girls at the time were going around looking like fucking Snooki from Jersey Shore. Japanese fads last 12 minutes but they give it a 110%.

So why'd Rinoa go insane and turn into ultimecia?

Must be super expensive to maintain a sense of modern fashion in Japan.

Whelp. That's the end of this thread.

She didn't.

What were they thinking?

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>not wearing tiny animals sealed inside plastic bags attatched to your keyring as they slowly starve/suffocate(since reptiles require much MUCH less oxygen for their blood it takes longer) in their shit and piss for you to look kawaii ugu desu uwu

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That looks like it has an actual barrel. So it's really is a sword with a gun attached to it. Still dumb but technically functional.

This makes me legit mad.

Pretty sure that's China, not Japan.

Gunblade is technically functional, we just haven't figured out how to make the explosion travel up the blade.

me to user

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engine blades are cool

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>Nobody posted the best gunblade design yet

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So wait what the fuck happens when the thing dies? They keep wearing a decomposing carcass? I'm guessing they throw it out and buy a new one. So it's not only cruel it's financially retarded.

Of course they throw it out. It's just a piece of food to them, or an inanimate object. The Chinese are insectoids, they don't value individual life.

But how would "an explosion traveling up the blade" make the sword better in any way that isn't troll science?

actually it was the other way around
they used Coleman because they wanted a real world brand used because of the fantasy based on reality motif

Asians hate old things, anyways. Look up how many dogs get put down because they aren't puppies anymore.

>not gilgamesh gunblade

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Oh shit someone who actually gets it

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they have the most realistic noodle eating animation in any game

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The way they explain how, by translating the explosion energy into vibrations in the blade.

First strike is already better than sensor and str+15%. You use that first turn to cast haste then swap it out.

I didn't come here for a rage thread but I found one.

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Everyone shitting on the gunblade, when we have literal chainsaw powered swords in DMC and in 40k.

I mean a literal explosion comes out the top of the sword while youre halfway into an enemies body
Look at some shit like those C02 knives, think they were called wasps injection knives or something?

The class is unimpressed with your stop sign.

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>has to pull up deep cut extended universe crap for his shitty argument
user weebshit is stupid just accept it

The explosion from the ammunition is translated into vibrations in the blade, and a small amount escapes out the top as an explosion.

>So it's not only cruel it's financially retarded.

Shark fin soup, anyone? It'll make your dick into diamonds.

You know they retconned it to shit right? apparently the bullets are magic and just makes the sword cause an explosion on contact.

Like that dumb sword from rave master.

Then why not get a literal inanimate object to wear, like a plastic turtle necklace? I thought Asians were supposed to be the smart race?

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Vibroblades are hardly a "deep cut" into Star Wars. Sounds like you never played KOTOR.

That wouldn't do a damn thing to make it a more effective weapon. It would just be Michael J. Fox: The Sword.

Are you dumb? Because living things are cooler. If you don't care about life, a live turtle is a great accessory. Then just throw it away.

Yeah, but it's "cool". You wanna be cool, don't you? Stop being a dweeb and just be cool.

That's not how vibrations, swords or guns work.

vroom vroom

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>not even a merc
>just some pampered little rich girl whos trying to rebel against her father
>by shooting the family dog at men under his command
Its fucking hilarious seifer managed to convince robin williams to send out squalls party on an indefinite mission for free to help take on a world super power with 3 idiots in a box car so the vagina of the group could stick it to her old man

but its the only way the plot makes any sense

Well not with our current technology. This is a game that has floating universities, remember.

aramatheydidnt.livejournal.com/4654876.html

japantimes.co.jp/community/2013/02/19/issues/millions-of-dogs-cats-coddled-200000-gassed-each-year-in-pet-mad-japan/

If you're halfway into an enemy's body then what's the point of the explosion? You gonna kill him twice?

I mean its not like they could just have resin casts that look lifelike or anything made

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>shatter the blade
It isn't made of glass. That's not how metal works. You shoot as many bullets as you want into a kitchen knife and ut wont shatter.

It doesn't make the plot any more or less nonsensical.

The vibration is meant to cut through armor, you dingo.

>gonna kill him twice
Maybe

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>you dingo

Australian power

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Yeah, I think I'm gonna bow out of this thread. I've got an O-chem test tomorrow to study for, and I won't be able to focus if I spend all night getting pissed off at China again.

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I mean as shitty as that is its still better than turning them loose and letting them run wild through the streets shitting up everything and wrecking microfauna
Still not excusable for that to be a thing though

Dragoons can jump really high just cuz

well when you live in such a shitty society where your leaders openly live by "Morality doesn't exist, only power does" and they have to install Suicide nets in the factories to keep people from leaping into the machines, what the hell did you expect?

Empathy is a trait that gets weeded out in the harsher societies/scenarios simply due to how shitty life is.

You can say it's retarded but it's so cool and reminds me of fun vidya designs instead of realistic take on things that I give it a pass. The design is also incorporated into gameplay. If you press R1 right as Squall is about to slash an enemy his attack is boosted with extra damage. Squall is also the only character in the game that cannot crit or miss an attack.

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A chainsword is actually practical if you have the strength to weild it. What would you rather get hit by, a sword or a chain saw? The only thing making a chainsaw impractical as a weapon is its weight, they're heavy at the wrong end.

Fuck outta here

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If the blade can't get through armor then adding force to the impact is only going to deflect the blade more and even possibly break it. You'd be better off with a blunt object in that case.

THE TIME HAS COME AND SO HAVE I

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>You shoot as many bullets as you want into a kitchen knife and ut wont shatter.

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>“We have many pet owners who treat animals too much like people, making them good parents to their pets, maybe, but becoming too obsessed with them at the same time,” she says. “I’m used to seeing Louis Vuitton carriers, baby strollers, and a dog’s diet including Kobe beef and Yubari melons, which cost upwards of $50 per fruit.”

Meanwhile, once they get too big, or they get bored of them, they just dump them off to get euthanized. I don't know how you can go from feeding them fucking Kobe beef and $50 fruits to just killing them in an extremely painful way.

nigger it's the same shit with MGR swords
it's why they're called high frequency blades

A chain saw, because force applied behind it doesn't increase cutting power, while force applied behind an edge DOES.
A chainsaw essentially "tears" at things to cut via friction, while a blade's edge works by actual cutting.
A chainsaw would be worse against armor than a sword would be, ironically.

>ff7 does great
>start putting all ff games in that engine
>ff8
>ff1,2,3 all faithful to the originals with swapped graphics/game play
I'd be an old man by then anyway i guess

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>nigger it's the same shit with MGR swords
Don't forget Evangelion blades.

Don't know why they made him ditch Fireseal, literally everything else about his design is the same.

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>I was meaning using the recoil to speed up the slash.
Yeah that's not how shit works.

No, it's like how the Flash can vibrate his body through solid objects. The vibrating blade cuts between atoms.

>FF7 Remake ever coming out

Literally if the game could come out if it was outsourced instead. Those slow, corporate meddling pieces of shit of a company.

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except the artstyle change throws everything away nonetheless

I remember when Baiken had tits that where as big as a baseball.

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Gunblades have got to be the dumbest weapon ever fucking thought of

They look dumb, they don't work logistically, and even if they did there would be 0 situations where you would want a gun AND a blade in the same hand.

Ugly trash weapon

its fun

>and even if they did there would be 0 situations where you would want a gun AND a blade in the same hand.

>what is a bayonet?

penis erect

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I finished Final Fantasy 8. The only memorable part was the final boss since it had four forms. Which Final Fantasy should I play next?

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Yeah, the water sword is way more practical, and not at all stupid. Especially the hook.

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Jesus Christ.

Final Fantasy 8.

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Where do you load the mag?

user the game is simply too "okay" to play again.

I always wondered what the hell is the Brotherhood made of

Longsword was better

Final Fantasy VIII.

can any kfag explain if this could work? that bullet piston knife thingy?

Chamber houses the magical energy.
Trigger initiates the burst of said energy. It allows non-magic users the ability to trigger the magical chain reaction necessary for the explosive impact of the blade.

Same way a switchblade works, only exchange the spring with gunpowder.

Maybe if the "bullets" were battery cells that just looked like bullets for aesthetic's sake.

Imagine being stabbed by bullets

it's magic

FF5 is the best one. Just play it and be done with the series.

>>what is a bayonet
Are you fucking dumb? There is a reason we don't use them in combat anymore. It is almost always advantageous to have them separate

>"This design is bad so that makes my design less bad!!"
2 wrongs don't make a right user, kids learn this stuff...

No seriously what were they THINKING?

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>2 wrongs don't make a right user, kids learn this stuff...
I never said the gunblade wasn't stupid. I was challenging it's status as the dumbest weapon ever.

kino

Kingdom Key is viable late game in KH3.
Rebellion is an option in DMC5, and you're not forced by difficulty to use Devil Sword Dante.
Both cases are recent and only fall apart if you're dependent on other weapons or specific abilities.

What were they thinking?

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>DSD has that wonky swordmaster moveset moved into normal move pool to have spectral swords out the ass on swordmaster so goodluck getting out propshredder when it could be useful
>Rebellion/Sparda dont have drive/overdrive
WHY

youtube.com/watch?v=VlHY6xRpktk
this

Just use all three swords at the same time

I don't mind prop shredder being moved into a combo, I honestly can't think of any instance where I need it on command that Ice Age couldn't also handle. I'll take a round trip that lets me keep the sword can be used mid attack over prop shredder being usable whenever any day.

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no autism allowed

>soldiers are valued in a world full of deadly monsters
>an institution giving orphans a home and a job is considered a good thing
>a talented soldier who has proven himself is given more responsibility
>wow such anime cliches

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