*blocks sekiro's path*

Nah but Sekiro is firmly in second and I really doubt Bayonetta can top it

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It looks like baham+for honor combat, great graphics but the gameplay is going to be so zzzzz

Can't wait for it to come out in 2023 :^)

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Because it did. DMC was dull throughout and a slog. Sekiro never felt that way. On top of this DMC is casual.

>tfw being an easier sekiro
GoT is the first thing I thought of when started playing Sekiro. Swordfight and stuff will probably be the same but I doubt these devs would have the balls to tell casuals to fuck off. Gameplay will somewhat suffer.
Would still buy it though.

I know right, DMC isn’t an action game, it’s a sports game a la SSX

This will be the Red Dead of samurai games

>snoybots feeling the inevitable flop already
COPE
O
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sucker punch said the combat is skill based

Sucker Punch has never made a hard game user why are you going off about difficulty

>western "gameplay"
lol

>Arkham style combat vs souls-shit
they're both trash

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>*taiko drums* YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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>the Red Dead of samurai games
Boring with shit gameplay? Sounds about right.

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As a ps4 user I don't feel confident in this exclusive

Funny cause that's exactly what sekiro is

sekiro doesnt have arkham style combat

I can't wait. This game will serve as a perfect example as to why people often describe Sony exclusives as movies when compared to Sekiro.

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froggers aren't to be taken seriously

do someone gives a shit about this game? the last trailer looked boring as fuck, nice graphics and that's all

(You)

Ghost of Tushima does

Literally nobody complained about a single DMC bosses (they're easy and casual).

Nope, the ultimate Samurai simulator, atmospheric open world, total freedom Samurai role playing

>people talking about baham combat
>they don't realize it's even worse than that, it's old Assassin's Creed combat
What a shitshow, SP should have made a new Infamous.

just try and stop me bitch

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Sony cinematic experiences aren't video games.

What they showed off at E3 was anything but skill based.

sekiro but actually fun to play

sekiro doesnt have souls combat either thats even more clear than arkham combat

no it doesn't

and no a takedown animation is not combat

>(((ghosts))) of snoyshima

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The new AC games have better combat than Bamham.

T. Never played DMD

you need to watch that gameplay trailer again

I don't even know why western devs try

Oh boy, a shitty western version of a game that already exists.
I can't wait.
This'll be perfect for all the faggots who actually think Ass Creed games are good.

he cute

People don't actually think sekiro is as good as dmc 5 right? It's not even as good as darksouls 3 or BB. Let alone dark souls 2 even

It's exactly why I said OLD AC combat, the ones where you don't really attack and press counter to win.

i did now stop being retarded

>Taiko drums
You I like

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cope more buttonsmasher

cringe

>456178506
Nice try.

They don't lol

It couldn't even beat Dark Souls 3 nor outsell DMC kek

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Those games are way better I'm not surprised

whatever you say Retardo Milos

Why would anyone expect it to outsell DS3? It’s a fucking brand-new IP

I wish I could refund sekiro to put a dent in those numbers. Hate it

Watch the gameplay demo. It’s open world trash like Witcher meets Uncharted.

>DMC still living rent free in soulscucks minds

They nerfed the counter system with Unity, right? Unity and Syndicate had the best pre-RPG AC combat imo.

It's also down 30% from bloodbone sales. 80% of Sekiro copies have sold on PS4, kek.

Wonder how many snoys will return it. Sekiro sold on hype but only appeals to a tiny niche.

The Sekiros started this war. We Souls and Devils shall finish it!

DMC 5 was boring as hell. I don't care about styling for the sake of styling and the world was nothing but one gray hallway after another. Sekiro is instantly a 1-up if you're not a combo autist.

OH NO NO NO

Source about 80% on PS4. It sounds like fucking bs, considering steam had about 120k concurrent players.

Also, the frames suck on the ps4, so a lot of people (myself included) got the pc version

Fromdrones really are fucked in the head.

It's from drones coping

DMCfags eternally seething

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Why would I play through a boring slog multiple times? I got bored halfway through SOS.

You're right user, all these bads disagreeing is laughable. Literally the best action game of this generation if not of all time.

>80% of Sekiro copies have sold on PS4
i very much doubt thats true but if it is then that explains why everybody is crying about the game being too hard, imagine trying to parry with sub-30fps holy fuck

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So literally like Dark Souls then.

not an argument

>D-DMC

Literally rent free in your head, from cuck.

Its going to be good for what it is, but its a main stream open world game. Expect lackluster bosses, if any, no challenge and padding. It doesn't seem to be Batman combat, but the stealth looks braindead Batman tier.

when did dmc5 come out?

Sekiro punishes you even harder for trying to mix up its combat is insanely dull and linear. You always cam only hit once or twice then you have to go back to a predictive 8 parries and repeat. Cringe @ Fromsoft drones !

I’m tired of having this conversation user. It’s been discussed about million times here already.

ironic cause DMC button mashers were shitting on souls games until they got BTFO in sales and reviews

>Literally to post comparing to to DMC
>Lol why did you bring up DMC?!??! Rent free!!
Dumbass.
All time peak is the part of the image you should be looking at.

It's physical copies, if they counted digital it would probably be different.

>B-but DMC

Loving every laugh

200$ 4k 30fps
Vs
1k$ 4k sub30fps pc WITHIUT GAMES
LOL

>Literally replying to post
Fixed*

Shipped 2 million in 2 weeks. Where are those stats for Sekiro? it's not even topping DS3 and DMC5 is already on the way to topping DS3 KEK

>Literally to post

Don't hurt yourself, shilling, from cuck.

>All time peak is the part of the image you should be looking at.
yes but its also telling how quickly people give up on the game
artifact has a high all-time player count but look at it now

>western game blocking anythnig
lmao

How did they do it? From shits out a game between buggy Souls games for Activision for like wheelbarrow full of rice and saki and DMCfags are literally running full defense. Wait ten years and get unseated IN A FUCKING WEEK.

cope

Why would they release sales information a week after release?

>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but stuttering

cope

If you were tired of it, why reply to me to begin with? Could you not control yourself?

They wouldn't, when it's lacking behind DS3 KEK

>>"Iza, jinjou ni shobu!" YO HO HO YO HO YO HO HO YO HO

oh fuck that's good

>*blocks sekiro's path*
No.

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Tsushima is Samurai kino, Sekiro is Ninja kino

>he still mad

lmao

wait is THIS the game? jesus christ what?

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GoT will be the worst samurai game releas this year
even nioh 2 will blow it out the water

i'm okay with this

DMC5 went from 88,000 players to 27,000 players in a week, Sekiro went from 125,000 players to 88,000 players in a week.
You do the math.

whats the difference

>It's just samurai batman

What the fuck was Sony thinking

nigga got ice skates on lmao

I guess it's a special attack like with Arkham Knight, since the reveal trailer showed some morew "normal" swordfights as well.

Nioh 2 will release Q1 2020

>ghost
Tsushima is a samurai turning shinobi. Nioh is samurai kino.

>*taiko drums* YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Nioh is made by the DoA team right? So they wasted their time making that garbage that flopped out of the game when they could have already made Nioh 2 and sold millions.

DMC is a franchise that started on console first and foremost. That is the hacker genre's home in the first place. So steam is not going to represent even a quarter of that number hence 2 million 2 weeks, Sekiro struggling to stay on track with it's 3 mil grossing father series.

>said the guy trying desperately to get the last word in cause he ran out of arguments

yikes

link?

Fucking braindead nigger. DMC 5 is a better action game.

>He is still assblasted and has to reply

lmao

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but sekiro has takedown animations too so its the same gameplay

The need a horny simulator to keep them afloat.

sekiro has stealth bushes

Ninja Kino is inherently more supernatural, ruthless and stealth oriented,
it's fun
Samurai Kino is like The good, the bad and the ugly -but with honorable samurai
It's also more cinematic and has more drama

>PFat sales mattering
all that matters is PS4

>88K out of 2+ million
lol Pshits think they matter

>Literally nobody talking about Ghost of Tsushima
kek

They should just cancel the game and studio altogether and save themselves from being compared to Sekiro

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epic

Rent free.

Nioh is folklore kino

Souls started on consoles you doofus, 2/5 of the games are exclusive to console and it's most popular on PS4. Dark Souls 3 had sold 3 million copies in a little over 2 weeks after release, with Sekiro only slightly behind on peak players meaning sales are likely very comparable. DMC5 is sitting on 2 million sales in the same time.
Souls-like is just the more popular genre.

Yes

>more cinematic
theres that word again

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>multiplat games are fun
>sony games are movies
Lol

>lol Pshits think they matter
How can you retarded enough to not know the difference between owners and concurrent players?

This post is true. Once Sekiro dropped down no one gave a single fuck about DMC anymore. The threads and their shitty memes stopped immediately.

>worse than das2
OK retard

Deluded PC cucks think they actually matter.

how retarded can you be to not think 90% of the sales for a single player game aren't accounted for by the all time peak when the game launches day1/2?

Bloodbourne was also a fucking brand-new IP, Sekiro is 30% down from Bloodbourne

LMAO! Karma, Sekiro were talking too much shit too soon ahahahaha

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>Movie of Tsushima
I sleep

What else did you expect from a sony exclusive?

do you know what kino means?

>Can't even beat bloodborne

Damn, I thought the from marketing "le hardcore game" shit would push it more.

Wasn't this supposed to have asscreed combat? Big yawn

> *taiko drums* YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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I'm conflicted

on one hand, it's trash batman combat. On the other, it's sucker punch and they always deliver

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yeah its botanical gum

Wait a minute, Sekiro is getting beat BY AN EXCLUSIVE!?!?! ohnononononono

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OH NONONONONO TSUSHIMA KEKS???????

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Because they aren't, you dumbass? DOOM sold 500,000 copies within the first month on PC, all time peak is 30,000 players.

They thought it was doing well because people on steam struggled longer to beat it than they did DMC kek

>This is what the infamous devs are making

What the fuck

Nah. Traversal in inFamous is fun but the combat is repetitive as fuck. Their best shit was Sly

it's a singleplayer game so everyone just pirated it,
I genuinely think it's the best From soft game I've played and I hope people who pirated it eventually buy the game and support the devs for making such a masterpiece.
Otherwise, I'm afraid they'll just keep pumping out repetitive shit like Dark Souls

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No real point for inFAMOUS to even exist anymore from a commercial angle; Sony are in bed with Marvel now and can get exclusives through that avenue. Why use store-brand superheroes when you can use Spidey or Iron Man?

>combat is insanely dull and linear. You always cam only hit once or twice

>Combat is all about doing different combos to tack on more damage and not about setting up the hit

DMCfags

Going samurai was a mistake, should've just Dark Souls 4/Bloodbourne 2.

unironically this

that gameplay trailer looked suspect as fuck

as much as i love sekiro, i hope the next game is a dark souls rehash. then sekiro 2

100% the gameplay is like God of War

I don't understand this appeal for a power fantasy like this. Why not make a game with competent combat?

Go fight Urizen on DMD and try to say that's easy and casual

Easily.

how bout we wait for them to show actual gameplay before we even guess what kind of game its gonna be

Nigger it hasn't even been a week yet.

Woah now you fromfags need to chill before you get your asses verbally handed to you.

They had a 10 minute gameplay video at E3 last year. It looks really fucking bland

90% of almost all game sales are accounted for in week 1, especially for single player focused ones

This looks like dog shit.

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Hurr... Durr...Shitkiro will outsell DMKino

post yfw it's a game made for game critics, like every sony exclusive

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I'd never buy activision shit at full price. They can fuck themselves till shit gets in sale.

Oh look it's the Barry (or was it Gary?) of the Souls threads. No one was even talking about DaS2 but you sure had to tell everyone how much better that game is than every other Soulsbornekiro.

Please have sex

I would have preferred a sly game

Sure, it would have been meh compared with old games, but at least it would have been better than this

>hes still SEETHING

oof

Bless you user

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>No u

lmao

>Bloodborne lifetime sales is 2.5 million
>This game is below its first week sales
Not good

disgusting

BamHam combat is the fucking worst, christ.

The Order 1868 of the samurai games

>"Torment yourself by clawing through this boring slog additional playthr—"
No. Dropped it halfway through SOS. There is literally no reason to go back to this game. This is like saying play through Sekiro 6 times, then get the hardmode bell, and on top of that get the hardmode curse, and then fight the Demon. I'm not doing all that just for a hard experience.

>bamham but in japan
I have a PS4 and I won't even touch this game

Bloodborne's lifetime sales are unknown. The only official figure ever given is 2 million just under 6 months after release, which pre-dated the DLC/GotY edition.

The 3 million figure given by VGChartz is completely made up as is that 5 million one that gets bandied around on forums (no idea where this one comes from though).

>We could have got BB2 or a multiplat BB
>Instead we get samurai shit
>it flops

the statistics the article uses are 1) not reliable; 2) intentionally misrepresented in the image
people here should stop reading screencaps and read full articles instead.

>DMCucks trying to drive a wedge between FromPals and SatsumaBros

Just fuck off already

Yes. And it hasn't been a week yet.

every ninja/samurai game I've played is a button spammer with long-ass combo chains and paper enemies
Sekiro was pretty refreshing

>batman combat
No fucking thank you.

*Sekiro parrys and deathblows Ghost of shitshima*

Nothing personal kid.

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Could it be.....?

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Physical sales numbers are irrelevant nowadays, I honestly don't know why people care. A lot of people just buy digital.

what a retard. why even post.

>its easy!
>okay go try it on the non-game journo difficulty
>no!
???? like what was even the point of this exchange

BASED

>inb4 this garbage sells more than Sekiro

>people here should stop reading screencaps and read full articles instead.
oh you naive child

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FWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Kek

BLULULU LOOK AT ME IM JAPONESE

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NOOOO DELETE THIS!!!!!!!

The article literally states right after that the differences are due to the changes in the the market, like people buying more digital nowadays which is obvious considering it's been /4 years/ since Bloodborne.
The guy who cropped the image left that out intentionally, obviously. Either a Snoyfag or a DMCfag.

That was Sekiros, Sekiros were the ones mouthing off about dethroning Souls, DMC, Bloodbourne. "Muh game so much harder than souls", "its a casual filter", "souls was filled with too much exploits sekiro is better". All throughout the threads, now the tune is changing?

I always feel bad for this guy
he's legit a master at his craft and everyone just calls him a weaboo

It most likely will.

>Its a Souls game
>But without builds, multiple weapons, rpg elements lighter than Mass Effect 2
>"B-But its not a Souls game!"
>Its an action game with only one weapon
Just made me more hyped for Nioh 2 tbqhwyf

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It's funny however because on Steam Sekiro has been sitting on #1 Global Top Sellers for 3 weeks straight, and has a peak concurrent player count of 125k people, whereas Dark Souls 3, a game with 2 previous titles in the baggage, had just 5k more.
Anyone that thinks Sekiro is a flop in any way is completely delusional.

don't use logic please it hurts.

Payback is a bitch. Don't worry it's going to be much worse once this turd releases.

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god shut up faggot what a crybaby bitch

>"without builds"
>you literally cant max out either tool or skill tree in a single playthrough, meaning you have to make choices (builds)
>"no rpg elements"
>for the first time in a FromSoft game, your choices actually have actual consequences besides ending slides - the mark of an actual role playing game
(you)

It's a valid complaint. DMD should be available immediately with all moves unlocked.
DMC5 is still easier than Sekiro base even on SOS.
The whole design of DMC is weird and shitty.
At its highest aspirations its a Mahvel sim that grades you with several unlockable difficulties. You have to grind all this shit out, but the game is so linear and boring and the enemies suck so much nuts that it loses its replay value by putting your options behind grind components. A combo game where you have to grind moves for no reason. A style simulator where you have to grind moves for no reason.
>"Just play the game 15 times—"
No. It's boring.

I'm not even surprised by it's sales or lack there of, Unlock Dark Souls 3 or Bloodbourne, Sekiro had next to no hype for it's release, it was a borderline sleeper hit.

I don't understand how DMC even entered the conversation about the game
they aren't even remotely similar in gameplay

It absolutely will. It's an accessible AAA game by a well-liked mainstream developer with Sony marketing money.

>snoy movie game will definitely beat real game!
all you fags that actually think GoT has a chance against Sekiro probably didn't even like BB, one of the few3 good games on the PS4

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So was gimped souls, ahem sekiro. Buying a souls game with no replay value kek

>Unironically trying to claim Sekiro is MORE of an rpg because it removed the rpg elements
>Unironically trying to claim the pitiful skill tree gives the game "builds"
Absolute cringe.

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kek

But souls combat gameplay loop hardly changes, regardless of the weapon. It's the same shit in melee based builds or it's shooting sorceries/pyromancies/miracles at a range.

> cinematic experience
> baham combat
> hand holding from start to finish
> no challenge whatsoever
Stealth will be even worse than Sekiro. Screecap this.

>Buying moves is making a build

lmao, GoW is a RPG too now.

>he thinks linear passive stats with small increments is the mark of a role playing game
could you be any more retarded?

I mean, it's more limiting that soulstrash so it enforces builds

4 endings, get to max your build and tools. I don't really replay Souls games either way.

goty

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And it'll still sell more than Sekiro despite being an excusive

>Its more limiting!
>That means it enforces builds!
>That means, its a better rpg!
You have to be baiting, nobody is this much of a rabid faggot fanboy.

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>Sekiro had next to no hype for it's release
wut

The very fact that it was made by the Dark Souls creators gave it a free pass to be promoted by big YouTube channels that focus entirely on Dark Souls/Bloodborne

Tons of people were pre ejaculating over this game

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>200$ 4k 30fps
ps4 pro is still $400, only gets fake 4K and sub 30fps

Sad but true, ME2 has more replay value through it's builds than Sekiro.

That's stretching it, mate. Sekiro has no builds.

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>Sekiro had no hype
>ads and youtubers out of the ass everywhere
>soulcucks shilling it everywhere
>Backed up by Activision
>no hype

Kek

Man ME2 replayability is completely undermined by how much garbage of a follow up ME3 was.

>It's a Souls game
Stopped reading right here

all the hype for tushima is coming from reddit right?

Because I'm watching this "gameplay" video and so far it looks like shit. This reminds me of everything i hate about the trend of cinematic "games".

Noooooooooooooo

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>Nioh 2
>Character creation confirmed
>Team Ninja creative director Tom Lee added that the studio feels more emboldened in its approach to Nioh 2, saying that the developer was “a little bit cautious and trepidatious” in creating the original game. “This time around,” Lee said, “the gloves are off. We’re gonna go in hard.
Fuck these other games I know where my hype is.

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?
Nioh plays like dogshit next to Sekiro tho (boring, shit enemies, shit bosses, shit levels, etc).

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That's barely anything. Sekiro barely had any promotional material outside of a few trailers and tutorial area demo gameplay. Souls JewTubers aren't even that big either.

>Its an action game with only one weapon
Which is it, a shitty Soulslike or a shitty action game? Maybe a shitty rpg. Whatever way you slice it, the games just a cut down piece of crap compared to Froms last content and playstyle rich games.

I legitimately don't understand why you think otherwise. 'Builds' in Souls usually amount to you deliberately restricting yourself instead of capping out as much as you can via grinding and not using using whatever items like bows to cheese shit. It's honestly silly and Sekiro is how things should have been handled. You should have to find unique shit in order to become more powerful.

my sides, holy shit

Sure, the people who follow From and their games, but I mean it had next to none from casuals like Souls or Bloodbourne did. I myself a person who watches Twitch streamers didn't even hear none of the big streamers talk about it, until it was literally around the corner. By comparison all the Sony fags were hyping Bloodbourne to death until it released.

>sonyroaches will defend this

I remember watching the E3 footage last year and going 'time to finally drop Sucker Punch.' So out of the original PlayStation trilogy Insomniac seems to be the only one that hasn't desolved into complete shit just yet, but they were getting close for a while.

>t. Too brainlet to ki pulse
Its okay sweetie, Sekiro isn't going anywhere. Just press that parry button! You can do it! Way to go, champ.

>falling for PR meme talk
Are Nioh fags retarded?

You're an hero.

>He can't manage stances or ki pulse

Lmaoing at this casual

From has the souls fanbase by the balls. It's why this board turned into a massive Sekiro circkejerk. They don't need to do much to sell games anymore.

based DSP hates the stupid flute game
youtu.be/ljS3DcdijB8?t=650

youtu.be/x9vkAl3pf_E

Kek I'm actually more hyped for this game

Are you a fellow Sekirbro? Its sometimes a struggle living amongst these simple creatures.

>it's just a souls game!
>despite blocking being taken out, rolling being nerfed to shit and jumping added

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There are times where I think having such fine taste is a more of a burdon than a gift.

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Exactly. FROM has earned a reputation, and an actual fanbase. No need for any marketing.

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>"scifi"
>cyberzombies
>better take them out with my cybersword
>I'll block the big cyberdemons attacks with my cybershield

With gameplay like this no wonder google thinks stadia can work.

That's easy though (very very casualized take on the Exceed system from DMC)? You don't even need to do either of those either once your build starts steamrolling and the game shits itself (very easy compared to Sekiro).

That's because this entire site is owned by shills for the latest AAA games. I don't get why you people don't realize this and still come to this site for real discussion. It's all marketing now.

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I wasn't following the conversation from the beginning . Yeah that's pretty much how it is.

>Exceed is stamina management and stances

Fromdrones really are retarded.

>it's only shilling if it's a game I don't like

IF YOU DON'T LIKE SEKIRO YOU HAVE SHIT TASTE IN VIDEO GAMES, ALL THERE IS TO IT. NO ARGUMENTS, NO DISCUSSION. THAT IS -IT-.

Samurai were literally exterminated in Tsushima.

Those animations look awful.

YUCK

Exactly, so stop shilling games I don't like. Please.

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I want to play video games I like, fag.

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I don't and I beat it
Sekiro suffers from the combat becoming repetitive, boss fights basically become simon says at the end

Exceed is a casual button press you don't need to do that elevates your play, like Ki Pulse, but Pulse is very easy timing wise.
Stance is very similar (something you don't need to crush the game). I literally mashed whirlybird throughout the entire game and never changed stances. Good stance systems can't be found in arpg games, you need to go to fighting games. Johnny mist stance use shits on every action game ever made in terms of required play, skill floor, and skill ceiling. Expand your horizons out of non-casual games.

Explain then, retard.

Its actually quite the opposite for me. After playing sekiro to completion I don't feel compelled to continue, because the combat feels boring and repetitive at this point, and the novelty of the bosses don't make up for it enough. Just like most souls games, its the setting, tone, and atmosphere that make it stand out as an experience. The meager new combat mechanic doesn't separate it much from its spiritual genre group (souls games), nor does its focus against a traditional RPG experience in favor of a more action oriented one (No stamina, no stat building, etc). The lack of re-playability and variety in the game in its critical flaw. Whats more, even with its clear differences, It still plays and feels like a souls game, just one where parrying and staying up in an enemies face is more important because you have no limitations onf the mechanical side of your engagements other than posture. Nioh plays like a cracked up ninja gaiden dropped into a souls "flavored" game, and is insanely fun because of it. Nioh was a riot for 200 hours straight for me, and I only used 3 of the available weapons. Thats not even including the DLC and its new weapons. I don't think the sheer difference in mechanical depth Nioh has compared to Sekiro, let alone any souls game, needs iterating here. Anyone whos played each of the souls games as well as Nioh should easily understands what seperates it from the "Genre". The draw of souls games was never their combat to begin with, which has always been shallow and repetitive. Whats important about Nioh is that it took arguably the worst aspect of souls games (Combat) and made it the primary focus of the game, breaking the mold of the souls gameplay loop that was slowly growing tiresome (Evident enough in sekiro trying to shake things up with the posture mechanic), and it wound up being an excellent game for it.

Sekiro attempts the same thing half-heartedly and thus only manages to feel slightly different.

You don't even have to do Simon says in the earlier games, Nioh, DMC, etc. Literally just mash attack and mash evade (even more repetitive).

>I enjoy scarfing down advertising when its fed to me in a packaged format I identify with on my favorite chinese basket weaving forum.

Shills going full damage control tonight.

what people don't seem to realize is they're trying something new. DS1 wasn't exactly a perfect game and 2 entries later they had polished it into a solid formula. I think the same will happen with sekiro if people give it a chance.

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I get it, but I felt the opposite. Nioh was never worth going back to due to poor enemies, bosses, levels, atmosphere, etc. The gameplay was also boring and repetitive.

People wouldn't have pirated it if it had multiplayer.

I thought sekiro and this were the same fucking game
modern games are so fucking garbage and samey Jesus fucking Christ

No, I think you're just retarded.

You're right, telegraphs for attacks aren't given a big red "WATCH OUT" along with the attack. You gotta figure it out yourself. If you think mashing evade and attack will get you anywhere in Nioh you never played Nioh, and the point of DMC is to be stylish, not repetitive. The scoring mechanic is a direct incentive to that. If you're being too repetitive, even if you mange to beat your opponents, the game will tell you that you're bad at it.

Multiplayer in this game would have never worked ever.

Builds in Souls games revolved around damage type, weapons and playstyle. Sekiro can't be played with different movesets or damage types or strategies.

If Nioh was boring and repetitive to you I genuinely don't know how you managed to stomach Sekiro, but to each their own I suppose. I've already uninstalled Sekiro, but I feel like I could pick up Nioh right now and have a blast all over again like its 2017 part 2. Though to be fair that may be because its been a long time since I last played it.

I mashed whirlybird and sloth throughout the entire game and had no issues. You didn't even have to think about where to dodge in Nioh (dodging back worked 99%). Sorry friend.

>Casual button press
>When it requires exact timing and it changes the entire combo
>Very similar to stance

The brain of a from cuck.

I've played Sekiro. I enjoyed it. I like to discuss it here with people who have. Tell me how this is shilling, you tin foil hat sperg.

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Part of the appeal of the games is enemies and bosses and levels. Nioh has terrible enemies and bosses and levels. The offense mechanics were completely underutilized and ultimately just felt tacked-on and added no real substance to the game. Say what you want about Sekiro, but the encounters were made for you to use the kit the game gives you and in Nioh they weren't.

cringe

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It is a very lenient and casual mechanic. I don't know why you're up in arms or surprised.

there's no grinding lmao and there's no reason to have all the difficulties from the start.

PC is by far the cheapest place to play games even if you upgrade once every 5 years, which will ensure your rig is more powerful than any contemporary console. If you buy a bunch of console games software prices will eat you alive while PC can get games on heavily discounted sales or just pirate if you dgaf about compensating developers.

>I cheesed the game so it has no depth.
You also probably haven't played it since you first beat it before its several balancing patches came around and ripped the mold off of most of the cheese.

Its not the games fault you're a shitter who never took advantage of its full mechanics to carve out a satisfying experience. Its not the games job to handhold you into fighting the way you want. By this same logic I could call every Mortal Combat game shallow because you can pick Cyrax and green net your way to the ending effortlessly.

Re2 is still better than both

DMC has a bunch of filler difficulties that nobody wants to play (this is why the game dropped to like 10k players after a few days—people beat it and there was no need to replay it).
Your moves are locked away behind a grind component. Why is this even a thing? Bad design.

Kek probably accurate as fuck but still a day 1 cop

Show me you full exceed combo, user. You know how to do it, no?

>In nioh they weren't
What are you talking about? I can chock your disdain for the enemies and characters up to taste, but All cheese aside, there are dozens of ways to beat every boss and enemy you encounter in nioh that take full advantage of the insane kits you're provided for every weapon throughout the game. Everything you can do and every skill you learn is directly relevant in beating at least one boss per skill, and addressing every obstacle you get given. The only variety the game lacks is enemy types, not a variety of ways of utilizing the games systems. How is a wealth of ultization options not "real substance"? Is your anecdotal experience of playing the game the way you did completely clouding your judgement?

Are you the guy that just "whirlybird"ed your way through everything? Did you actually play even the game or did you just watch videos of people cheesing bosses with ninjutsu and dual blades?

You don't have to take advantage of its mechanics to beat it. I don't play low quality action games like Souls/Nioh to master their shitty mechanics; I play them to explore a cool world, to soak up the atmosphere, to fight fun enemies and bosses, and to explore good levels. Nioh fails because it fails at all of these.

>people beat it and there was no need to replay it)
and?
people tend to stop playing games after they beat them, wait 2 weeks and see how sekiro fairs

>filler
those higher difficulties literally remix enemy placement, gives new moves, and changes the damage algorithm. better than most game's handling of difficulty. in a single playthrough you should be able to get most moves.

>Show me you full exceed combo
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What?

Quality post

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DH/SOS are the filler user. The game is too boring to play through twice.

you talk like a casual, it's unfortunate because people like you are the rest we have so many movie games trying to create an 'experience' instead of just making good games

The bad enemies, levels, atmosphere, bosses, etc, aren't really a matter of taste.

>there's a reason to replay sekiro
kek, least DMC's getting online and bloody palace, there's no reason at all to replay sekiro after completion and it's sales are underwhelming even compared to an exclusive Bloodbourne. Only reason it has that number is not replay value, it's scrubs not getting through bosses.

no it's not, it's fun as hell.

luckily for you all you have to do is kill urizen to get the next difficulty, if you can't do that that's on you

You talk like a casual that peaked with Nioh. I'm sorry that you play shitty action RPGs for the combat.

I disagree user.

>You don't have to take advantage of its mechanics to beat it.
You also don't have to cheese the game the same ways over and over either but you taking the easy route is no fault of the game, nor is the game giving you the option to a fault of the game. You even being able to complete it is evidence of it accounting for lazy people like you that wouldn't bother to explore its mechanics.

>I didn't like the world/levels
>I didnt' like the atmosphere
>I didn't like the bosses/Enemies
Ultimately this all boils down to your taste, but you insist on the game 'failing" where its your own perception and experience of it thats caused your disdain for it, not through any fault of the game. If you never even bothered to explore the ways the game can be played how can you claim it "Failed"? Because it didn't hold your hand? Because it didn't cater exclusively to the way YOU wanted to play it? You sound like Joseph Anderson, trying to fault the game for your own shortcomings with it.

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There's no reason to replay DMC either. It's literally more boring chalice dungeons

Souls lore and world building is trite

>He can't breeze through SoS even though he says the game is casual

lol

>he thinks his pirated sekiro number on steam means anything
From has a decent PC following, DMC5 is first and foremost a console game franchise. Those weren't PC gamers cheering loudly for DMC5 during the reveal. That's where the bulk of it's play and sales will come from. Laughable though, Sekiro is apparently doing shit on PC compared to consoles. So fucking huge lol at you thinking PC players makes a difference when the PC boys can't even support Sekiro the most ahahaha.

then you have shit taste.

god fucking bless your week

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lore and world building from any other game is usually tripe
souls and BB exceed in this though, and done through environmental storytelling, item descriptions, and well delivered dialogue

They're all matters of taste. The enemies weren't bad just because you didn't like them, the level design wasn't bad because you didn't like it, and the atmosphere was uniquely its own and whether or not you liked it is entirely subjective, just like in every action game.

If you're trying to claim the game didn't do what it set out to do and craft the experience it meant to with its enemy designs, bosses designs, atmosphere, and level design, then you're just flat out wrong and blaming the game for you not liking what it had to offer, locking yourself out of any understanding based on a difference of taste, denying that taste is even involved at all.

>thinking the Witcher or Uncharted is bad in any way

Stop being such an edgy teen, I understand you want that sense of belonging and self value because you didn't belong in mainstream society so you wanna be a little different, you wanna be a little special, you wanna be a little better than others. Well guess what no one gives a fuck. Stop being such an edgy autist and appreciate a game for what it is and what it isn't.

So this is the power of nu-Yea Forums, huh?
Not bad.

>Muh sales and steam numbers

Guess KH3 is the best action game in the gen then.

It allows you to sheathe your sword, It'll be my GOAT. Dunno why From Soft is so allergic to sheathing. Even Nioh had Iaido for fucks sake

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I laugh, but I'll still buy it.

It's almost universally agreed on that the enemies, bosses, and levels of Nioh are mostly forgettable and among the game's weaknesses. Yeah, it's all subjective of course... but some opinions hold more weight.
If you're going to use that as an excuse, why bother talking about the quality of a videogame at all. You can't objectively proove anything or dispute my claims at all. For example, I can take all your counterclaims and say 'Ultimately this all boils down to your taste' to dismiss them. Check it:
>taking the easy route is no fault of the game, nor is the game giving you the option to a fault of the game. You even being able to complete it is evidence of it accounting for lazy people like you that wouldn't bother to explore its mechanics.
Ultimately this all boils down to your taste. I disagree with these points and say fault rests solely with the game.

Much better than yours though.

Sucker Punch went from creating Rocket and the Sly Cooper franchise to this garbage.

F

Pretty sure one of the skills in Sekiro is a iaido technique

...

Oh wait. It's actually FF XV, lmao.
>barry was right

>sony cinematic "game" beating sekiro
lolno
even modified souls gameplay is better than "press x to samurai" gameplay

nope. keep being delusional.

didn't know that. Also one sword also had it in DaS. Might be my autism, but it's just that I think it looks silly to constantly run around with your guard up unable to sheathe your sword.

I miss sly cooper

DMC5 is a laughing stock compared to sekiro

Nope. This is why DMC is dead and forgotten. It's actually quite remarkable to be shilled and awaited for decades to be dethroned by a side project in a week that had no hype behind it until the last second. I never saw it coming frankly.

And I tell dudes at the bus stop I have a big dick, doesn't make it true.

Sukerpunch hasn't even made a single good game in over a decade.

tbqh sekino had hype from it's first teaser. Soulsfags have been on top of it and newbies drawn in by BB lapped it up

Why do Souls fags think that hard equates to good?

fuck u infamous was decent

Can't even outsell an exclusive Bloodbourne, RIP Sekiro.

Everyone gave zero shits until Game Radar gameplay trailers started dropping. Nobody even gave a fuck about the gamescom demo footage.

dmc was never dead since sales of 5 say otherwise. sekiro had hype too since it's a fromsoft game and they're loved by nerds and journalists everywhere.

no one believed for one second that yet another souls game would ever dethrone one of the leaders of action games. when a dmc game gets announced and released it's a huge deal. when a souls game does the same it's just standard fan fare.

>DMC is dead and forgotten
>After selling 2M in weeks and having a major update incoming and a music concert

lol
Delusional.

OBSESSED.

You are a literal retard if you believe this. Sekiro is just a parry simulator, basically a worse Metal Gear Rising.

Because they have been coddled by journalists and the media to believe that hard = good. nevermind the fact that they haven't actually played a hard game in their life

Just watched the e3 gameplay, looks like every other Sony exclusive

low IQ that's why.

>*taiko drums* YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Huge fan of Sucker Punch but this made me laugh hard

>mfw sekiro won't even top DmC: Devil May Cry's 2.4 million at it's pacing, kek. Rekt by a shitty reboot.

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>bamham walking sim stops time to get in thirteen enemy kills
W O W that gameplay, frinkin' heck sony does it again!

I really don't know why people think you aren't allowed to like both DMC5 and Sekiro.

some people have different tastes user
iz this bate? Jurnos are all coddled tards who can't tie their own shoes without complaining about the patriarchy.

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Sony marketing is a hell of a thing. I'm serious.

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So?
DMC is a braindead mash simulator

>Metal Gear Rising

MGR even had more weapons, combos, difficulty settings and playable characters. Sekiro is embarrasing as an action game.

There's no such thing as a hard videogame.

It's fine if a game is challenging but when Souls fags downplay games because "lol it's not hard XD" it's beyond retarded.

Sekiro had better enemies, bosses, levels, stealth, longer game, etc.

>game with release date TBA
>contending with game that has been released
such marketing!
i love VIRAL MARKETING
time to *SIP* a MONSTER COCK

There are enemies you can't mash against and the scoring disallows repetition

I've finished every Souls game and Bloodborne countless times, also beat Sekiro, and DMC5 was my first ever DMC game. You couldn't even begin to understand how fucking wrong you are.

Scoring doesn't do shit.
You can mash against every enemy.

I've finished every DMC game and DmC countless times, also beat Bayo 1/2, and Sekiro was my first ever souls game. You couldn't even begin to understand how fucking wrong you are.

tell it to the soulsfags then

I did personally but will for sure buy it when they release a DLC version of the game like BB

But Sekiro is not a Souls game user

Compared to Sword Saint Isshin on the easiest difficulty in Sekiro it is LMFAO

SEKIRO IS A TENCHU SUCCESSOR

SOULSFAGS CAN FUCK OFF

All scoring systems don't do shit, they just tell how well you played
>You can mash against every enemy.
factually incorrect. you don't even play those games.

>Sekiro was my first ever souls game

But I thought it wasn't, mr fromdrone. Are you ok?

Doesn't detract from my post.

>no u
the absolute state of soulsfags

The enemies are objectively bad because there aren't enough of them. By the halfway point you've seen every enemy the game is going to throw at you (and half of them are tongue ogre recolours). The should've been introducing new enemies until the very last level.

Where did I say that? Please point it out, capc*ckold

You're fucked in the head if you can't tell that Sekiro is objectively like a few thousand times better of a game than DMC5 lol. Like you would have to be really fucking retarded of a Cap cuck drone to think that, when DMC5 is just a slightly above average button masher with trash level design and trash story.

arr rook same

Screenshot this and keep it tidy til release day.

>sekiro
>action game

Mother fucker, pleb minions and mercenaries were more fun and challenging to fight against in Ass Creed Oddysey than the insta stealth killable minions in Serkio: Potato Souls Die twice. Only semi-challenge it's through it's bosses, that is the entire allure to the game, every other side of it TRASH.

I've played and beat every DMC except 2 repeatedly. Even annoying mobs like. Mephisto and pirhanas are "timing ma's"

It is better than any of Froms previous games and far better than DMC5, objective facts.

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Are you having a stroke, fromcuck? Read your own post.

>It couldn't even beat Dark Souls 3 nor outsell DMC kek
Well, Dark Souls 3 is the best Souls game, the best From Software could ever offer.

DaS 3 > DaS 1 > BB > DeS > DaS 2.

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>objectively
quit using words you don't know.

You're retarded. The point of the post is to illustrate how worthless the post its quoting is.

>>you literally cant max out either tool or skill tree in a single playthrough, meaning you have to make choices (builds)

You literally can? Did you rush boy? I already maxed the sword line and i'm not even half away from the game. Several enemies drop the powder to upgrade the tools too, well not like you will ever need it because everything is useless aside from the flashbang

I like the enemies that will come with the game

Nippon steel man will be fighting based mongols

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>Sekiro is better than DMCV
>>no it isn't
>HAHA UMAD DMC DEFENSE FORCE?

Retard. We've seen gameplay, you just mash buttons like in Batman.

Okay:
Please you retarded third world illiterate nigger... Connect the dots for me.

The Ghost of Tsushima version of the Witcher 3 pasta been floating around in various forms since E3 last year, senpai.

Oh

so you didn't play the games. shadows, sins, dullahans, abyss, angelos, and blitz literally cannot be mashed against either due to being too aggressive or needing some kind of requirement to beat

This DMC shill and literally everyone replying to it going "hurrr durr Sekiro a flop because it hasn't sold as much as Dark Souls 3", but ignore that the headline says "Sekiro is Steam's biggest launch in 2019". Meaning it outsold DMC5, RE2 and everything else, you chucklefucks.

It is. DMC has worse rating, less players, less threads, etc. There's no measurable metric that says DMC is better aside from nigger posts that aren't worth anything.

it isn't worthless because it's correct.

>mass replying
cringe

>muh critics
are we pretending that their word actually matters?

No it isn't. DMC is already being forgotten. Its wrong. You can't prove shit.

So Call of Duty is better than Sekiro?

we did it reddit

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It is less about being a singleplayer and more about just being a one and done experience. The game is short while satisfying, and while they tried to do something different than soul, much of it still remain there. You still have the fucking poison levels and the obtuse plot/npcs. Wish they would try something ACTUALLY different. A complete different genre like that robot game.

Does yours? Fuck no. You are a nigger nobody.

>DMC is already being forgotten
prove it

>western action game
>good gameplay
>better gameplay than a Japanese one
How retarded do you have to be in order to actually even begin to believe this?

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nigger I don't give shit if a game is forgotten or not. that bears little to a single player game's quality.

>Sekiro can't even outsell FUCK YOU despite it having an horrendous fan reception

lmao, how sad.

*Mist Noble counters your Ghost of Tsushima with dreadful illusion techniques*
Yare yare, your game having competent combat was all an illusion after all.

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>gow is the goty of 2018
>last of us 2 will be this year as well
why don't you think for yourself for once and stop relying on cuck critics?

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No.
It was rated lower, gets no threads here, etc. If you really want to get retarded, you can't prove your favorite game is better than the biggest piece of shit ever made.

>Unironically trying to claim the pitiful skill tree gives the game "builds"
This is how you spot dumbfuck retardniggers that have never played Sekiro but lie and pretend to have done so just because they have an agenda.
What fucking "the pitiful skill tree", it has six skill trees retard.

People will say it's better than Sekiro because it's cinematic and easy

tell us how great Left Alive is :)

You can't prove the quality of a game anyway. All you can do is make a bunch of opinion-based claims and say "that's what makes it good", and then anyone can come along and say they disagree with any subjective claim they want and you can't really do anything but volley points back and forth

it has the weeb iaido combat art but sword stays out. sekiro only puts it out near buddha statues

>Tsushima is Samurai kino
Samurai kino was already accomplished back in 2008

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>ratings and players

Critics and sales have spoken boy. This is the true action game.

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>biggest launch
>outsold dmc5 re2
Are you an idiot or just pretending to be one? Launch isn't overall numbuts. DMC5 just a few days ago announced 2 mil stat in 2 weeks. MEANWHILE Sekiro, is struggling to stay on track with an exclusive Bloodbourne LMAO. It sold less, and it's pacing is shit compared to both Dark Souls 3 and Bloodbourne. Keep leaning on steam players as if that means anything over 90% of DMC5's playerbase will have been on console dumbass.

It's selling more and Sekiro can't even match Bloodbourne kek

I love this pasta and am always glad seeing a new variation of it

It's not that hard equals good but that a challenge that expects you to learn shows respect to the player instead of the typical western game that assumes the player is a retard incapable of adapting in the slightest and is only going to mash buttons until they win.
One is engaging and respects your intelligence the other is mind numbing and often plays itself, but if you are a retard, one is bad and unfair, the other is epic that makes you feel like a badass because of how easily the enemies die.

>EANWHILE Sekiro, is struggling to stay on track with an exclusive Bloodbourne LMAO
Source?

Sure. Sekiro is clearly the better game because I say so. Disagree all you want, in the end you have absolutely no chance of refuting the claim (just as I do of your claim of another game being better).

Are you people stupid or trolling? Sekiro objectively has more build variety than Souls games.
You forgot
>It has better story than any Souls game
>Far more kino moments than any Souls games
>No silly, goofy shit like muh praise the sun or onion knight shit
>Gameplay is a million times better than in Souls games
>Bosses are better than in any Souls games
>Combat has far more depth than Souls combat, you actually need to read what kinds of attacks the opponent is doing instead of just brainlessly pressing the same button every time an enemy attacks in any way
Sekiro is by far FromSofts best game ever. Objective fact.
Neither retard, since its clearly the best action game possibly ever made so far. Open your eyes.

>opinion-based claims
that's all it is. games like sekiro and dmc5 are subjective and caters to different tastes. that's why I hate it when people use the word objective when that's not what it means.

Good choice. I agree, it's better than both.

But Sekiro has that
Sure is a lot of people who have not even played Sekiro, making up non justified complaints about non existent issues.

lol holy shit. For some reason I thought those were the same game

your word is garbage too. hardly better than critics.

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> and a music concert
Hahaha hahaha HAHAHAHA

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>*whistles for non-magic horse*
>autoruns on road to quest marker
>*cowboy curtis vision activates*
>"Mhmm....partner's got giant slash marks all over himself....a Mexican™, I reckon."
>"Come on, Buck"
>*follows revolver*
>guys in Sherrif™ costumes appear
>"EY YOU GRINGO, IT'S A GOD DAMN OUTLAW! GET "EM BOYS!"
>"You stink, partner" THE ONLY COMPASSSS THAT I NEEEEEEEED *shoot guys and they trip for 3 minutes, does a cinematic dead eye and blow them in half"
>"Mhmm....Mexicans™ pretending to be the Law™......better hollar at the camp about this"
>"Giddyup, Buck"
>*autoruns on road back to camp*
>"AY PARTNER, ANY NEWS?"
>"Just some rascals posing as Sherrifs™, here's proof *shows deceased hogtied Mexican*"
>"WELL I'LL BE DAMNED, HERE'S YA COIN DA WHOLE DARN CAMP PINCHED IN"
>"Marauders in Mexico" Complete OHHHH BURY ME NOOOOOOOOT ON THE LONE PRAARRRRIEEEEEE
>$3 received

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Why do manbabies think easy equates to good?
MGR is a 7 hour action game where few hours is cutscenes retard.
Sekiro is a 40-50 hour action game with 4 different endings that have their own different final bosses or even several different bosses.
Sekiro also has difficulty settings.
You're embarrassing to your parents.

>No silly, goofy shit
>WOOOOOOO

>3M in MERE days
>DMC barely gets 2M in 2 weeks.
>Sekiro can't even match Bloodborne's pathetic numbers

Bow down

Look at this post:
Look at the (you)s on it. I liked Sekiro more. Put a little pinache on it, and people go fucking retarded.

>since its clearly the best action game possibly ever made so far.
There you have it, folks. This confirms that soulfags are underage

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you can sheathe your sword in Sekino?

Are you retarded? No one said it outsold their total sales, but within the same timeframe. In the past week, Sekiro outsold every other 2019 game in their first week. This is 100% equivalent to the continuing sales for the rest of the entire year for these games, as long as they are single player.

it was boring as fuck so no

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Fromcucks would have a stroke in the tutorial.

You sure seem desperate to make shit up because you're butthurt that DMC5 is selling poorly. But don't worry about it, it's not like DMC5 had any chance against a masterpiece like Sekiro in the first place. DMC is just an average action game after all.

Ninja Gaiden has shit camera, piss off retard

You don't have a single leg to stand on. You're just some nobody. Your word is garbage too, and much much worse than th me critics. This is why retards like you are easy (you) farms. You think you can prove something or debate something, but you can't. Look at this.

fuck off falseflagger Barry

Yes, it is a lot better than Ninja Gaiden lmao. You contrarian cucks are getting pretty pathetic to try and deny reality this hard.
And Sekiro is a lot harder than Ninja Gaiden, not that it matters. It isn't the greater difficulty that makes it the much better game, it's the whole big picture, like a million times better boss fights etc.

For Iaido attacks
MC sheathes it automatically in safe places

Garbage game with shit levels, enemies, bosses, music, etc.

When you use the Iai technique you do. You can move around while holding it, and when you release the button you unsheath and attack lightning fast.

S-shut up

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Nope. DMC was more boring.

i'll trust the word of myself and other "nobodies" on Yea Forums over retarded, sycophantic critics.

I mean not really? That is really funny, but I wouldn't say it was intended to be goofy like onion knight being unable to complete areas because he was fat, or Solaire being an autistic retard. The ninja screams because he dropped down from a kite and is doing a kamikaze attack at high speeds.

OH NOOO DMC BROS WE GETTING BTFO

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Sorry you had to wait 19 years for a worse game.

Make shit up? we actually have confirmed Capcom 2 million, 2 weeks. Meanwhile, Sekiro. 50% from Dark Souls 3, 30% down from Bloodbourne ALREADY not even two weeks yet, and one of those is an exclusive. Keep coping.

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Hardcore gamer here. Seriously I beat games like Ninja Gaiden (NES version) and Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts so you guys can't tell me I'm some casual shitter. Tell me what exactly is wrong with this webm? Those two games look pretty damn fun to me. Its meant to give you the feeling of being a badass from like a movie or comic hero, what Batman is. These two games aren't meant to be this hardcore technical combat system. I don't know man maybe its that I am old and you anons tend to be younger but I just don't see anything to hate or get mad about here. I have always liked a wide variety of games for different reasons. Gaming should be about variety not similarity across the board.

The average from cuck, everybody.

Are you literally a chink? Open your fucking eyes that’s the fucking actual Batman game

Look at this pathetic taste at display. Blatant plebbitors.

Cool. I too will trust myself and the other nobodies that agree with my point of view.

Stay mad Fromfag. DMC chads are back and theres nothing you can do to stop us now

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Delete this right now!

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OH NO NO NO

HAHAHA

I can't fathom how anyone thinks a walking simulator like GoW is less boring than DMC

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It hasn't been a week yet user. Wtf are you talking about?

Yes and you were already explained why you are brain damaged to not understand that sequels sell more than new IPs. If there will ever be Sekiro 2 and 3, they will sell far more than the first one, even if they weren't as good.
DS2 sold more than DS1 even though its fucking garbage.

But a DMC cuck wouldn't have the brains to figure something like this out, huh?

you arent cool for liking game with shit camera

Even fucking worse.

>my
If Yea Forums was your hivemind, yeah

>30% lower than an exclusive new IP despite being in 3 platforms

WTF SEKIROBROS

You're the one with reddit tier taste if you unironically think Ninja Gaiden is anywhere near as good of a game than Sekiro. Just compare the boss fights retard, that alone is conclusive evidence that Sekiro shits all over Ninja Gaiden games or any other action games before.
No action games before have boss fights as good as Sword Saint Isshin, or Genichiro, or Owl. They just literally do not, objective fact.

>DMCringers getting absolutely blown the fuck out
>they still cope by trying to act smug

holy shit what went so right

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IN WHAT WAY WAS BLOODBOURNE A SEQUEL, faggot.

because DMC is a generic punching bag juggling fest

no other game has GoW style gameplay

>fromdrones seething THIS hard that their shitty watered down souls clone got dabbed on by DMC chads
Someone keep the guns away from them

Stop it, o-our chad game did well a-and that's all that matters, c-cucks.

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Stay mad Capc*ck. DMC "Chads" were back for a week until Sekino came along and cucked them out of their own genre. You don't need to be stopped because there are only like 5 of you left (the game is dead), while we take care of the genre for you.

>blown out in sales
>blown out in reviews
>blown out on forum post
haha

>"河童 ケイパー Complete" *taiko drums* YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Holy fuck!

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Why would anyone be mad? Sekiro exceeded all expectations, it's a masterpiece that will be remembered decades from now. But DMC5 sure as hell won't be. You have some growing up to do Capcom shill.

Seething soulsfags

of course people prefer button mashers then games that require skill and thought

You cut that out right now!

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Is it yours?

>fromdrones this than any of their YOOOOOOOO weeb fantasy boss battles can compare to Vergil

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>DMCfaggot too stupid to understand the concept of time
No user, it's literally not worse. It's the opposite. Because after a week Sekiro will have sold more than after the 5 days it has currently been out. Retard.

>you really FEEL like you're playing as a Yuan-era samurai

Here are your (You)'s now fuck off

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then games that require meticulous memorization and time wasting trial and error you mean

DMC fan does math

Ninja Gaiden has some of the most fluid, most responsive controls in any action. The mere act of moving around feels great and combat is incredibly engaging thanks to aggressive enemies. The bosses are all well designed because they don't fall under patterns and use a wide variety of attacks and punish the player for being bad.

50% down DS3, 30% down Bloodbourne, sorry user, but no.

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It isn't but most of Yea Forums can agree that mainstream critics have awful taste

SEKIROFAGS BTFO. GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

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Arguing is more entertaining than circlejerking. Matching others excitement is hard. It's easy to hate, it takes strength to be gentle and kind.
That being said that game won't be important in the long run

It was a spiritual sequel in a way, it sold well because it basically had Souls combat, so it was "part of an established franchise" even though the setting and lore was completely different.
Sekiro is completely new type of game, with combat not similar to Souls games in any way. A completely new concept with no established fanbase before release, while Bloodborne had the Souls fanbase waiting for it.

I guess you'll just have to wait a few years to figure out that Sekiro 2 will sell a lot more just because it will be part of an established franchise. That alone matters more than actual content of a game.

>GoW style gameplay
you mean boring walking sequences with tacked on rpg mechanics and terrible combat?

How are flopkiro fans holding up? I'm sure the game is magically gonna surge in sales, am I right frombros??? Please tell me I'm right my favorite From paid twitch streamer which also happens to be my life guru plays flopkiro, thus I have to play it and defend it with my life on forums.

Most DmC boss fights are cool but they're just not challenging. That's my two cents anyway

>50% down DS3

Oof. Guess DS4 is a given now.

Truth hurts. Look at these (you)s:
The state of the DMC fanbase is very fragile right now. Why are they so sensitive?

lmao devil may cucks are seething

Vergil in DMC5 is literally a completely basic, common kind of anime-like boss fight that has existed in countless games by now. It is objectively nothing compared to the countless amazing fights in Sekiro.
You are in severe denial. It's ok to like DMC5 user, but denying reality is not healthy for you.

Its a console exclusive so, no, not really.
Wake me up when it's on PC.

You're a faggot who hasn't played any of the three games involved in your argument

My nig. What did you think of 4? I want to try out once I clear out some of my PS4 games.

I completely agree. DMC tho completely blows Flopkiro out of the water.

user, I didn't say Ninja Gaiden games are bad. They just aren't as good as Sekiro.
You're actually trying to pretend like these old ass Ninja Gaiden games bosses have more moves than Sekiro bosses, really now? People datamining Sekiro files already found that some bosses have over 150 unique moves in the game.

>basic
he has lots of moves like other bosses.

So does Yea Forums. So does metacritic. So does sales. Etc. There's literally no good metric, but people will arbitrarily cling to whatever agrees with their opinion. They're all bad, even Yea Forums

Please go back to your twitch stream to spam your reddit git gud gifs, braindead nigger.

FLOPKIRO. It will be lucky to outsell the shitty DmC reboot lmao.

WTF SEKIROBROS HOW DID WE SELL WAY LESS THAN DS3, BB AND DMC5?
GOTY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OURS BUT WE GOT BTFO BY A FUCKING JOKE GAME NOOOOOOO

Damn DMC fanboys are SEETHING
I guess getting cucked this hard really damages ones sanity
Sekiro is already way more popular than DMC5 and will continue to be, and there is nothing you will be able to do about that since it's objectively far better in gameplay and every other aspect.

but mainstream critics are on another level of awful. as bad as Yea Forums taste can be, they're at least cynical enough to know why garbage like last of us shouldn't be rated highly

Soulsfags don't play souls games because they enjoy the difficulty, they enjoy it because it gives them bragging rights
They can say 'look at me I beat every souls games so I'm good at hard games' but they won't play touhou or some shit that's much harder. Then they excuse every shitty hitbox and every perfect super tracking attack by saying 'git gud'. I wish miyazaki would make the most bullshit souls possible on purpose just to see how much intentionally obtuse and unfair mechanics fromsoft can force into dark souls before the fandom breaks

This. The true patriarchal lords will be spamming retarded Dante/Vergil boomer.macros

Yes, and still not anywhere near as many as Sekiro bosses. Not impressed.
You sound really salty DMC cucklet, cute

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It's literally outselling DMC5, keep seething. We are living rent free in your head little boys.

>muh steam players
>steam is the only metric
Still losing to an exclusive. I can't take it. I can't.

the amount already is good and far from basic.

>ITT seething normalfags trying to make excuses why their annual souls clone got btfo by everything

S E E T H I N G

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I wouldn't say that. I get more enjoyment and play time out of Sekiro than DMC. I could understand if you don't actually like having a challenge why you would like DmC more.

Some games are too hard for people that's why they watch movies

>Sekiro sells like shit
>d-dmc fags

Lmaoo. Souls chads will rise again while you mash parry in your shitty activision cashgrab, cuck.

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Do you not know?
Look at Yea Forums. It's literally too hard for retarded devil may cuck mashers and soulsmongs. Lots of casuals have opted out (there are 3 "Ive given up" threads on the catalogue right now). A little too hard for the average Souls / DMC casual, really hurting sales. They need to come up with a human and devil hunter difficulties or stat-padding patch VERY SOON.

If you cared so much about challenge why don't you play an actually hard game?

Damn, this thread is still going? Can't we just play the games we enjoy and live and let live? Every time a new game drops, you fags come out the woodworks to defend/attack it.

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>Already backpedaling on the sales

OH NO NO NO HAHAHA

What does Souls have to do with this topic on Sekiro, which is far harder at its hardest modes than DMC5 at its hardest modes lmfao.
Has better hitboxes too, and combat is nothing like Souls combat.

Is this how low DMC cucks have to fall to make it sound like they have any argument left? Have to resort to talking about Souls games now, when it was about Sekiro? Damn I feel kinda bad for you little fellas, you sound really emotionally affected by this.

>smash left click
>now smash right click
Truly the advanced intellectual gameplay expected from a watered down souls clone.
Ayy fromdrones sign me the fuck up to your shill program, I wanna make some extra bucks.

>muh hard
Sekirofags are just another breed of soulsfag

But DMC5 DMD makes Flopkiro look like tutorial mode.

Thank god Flopkiro is flopping, now we can get back to the goodshit. Dark Souls 4 inc mother fuckers.

It's nothing like a Souls game, and it is literally BTFO out of everything. Did you not read the articles the DMC cucks were too stupid to figure out themselves, when they clearly said that Sekiro is 2019's best selling game?
It being "btfo by Dark Souls 3" in sales just means DS3 sold even more. That doesn't change the fact that Sekiro far outsold DMC5 and every other game in 2019.
You are really butthurt dude, try to calm down a bit.

Sekiro is still garbage

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Im a big DMC player actually, but I couldn't set the difficulty down to human / automatic, so I had to refund. I feel like the game will never sell well

Sekiro is a souls game whether you want to admit it or not, people said bloodborne wasn't a souls game at first too

This. We need that stat-padding back stat!