It's probably gonna be silently cancelled, isn't it
It's probably gonna be silently cancelled, isn't it
Doubt it, they just have to rip the P5 assets and copy the apocalypse gameplay, they’d have to try to fuck up.
No
3 days nigga
I fucking wish.
They said that when they announced it they were in the scrap part or whatever they called it. So yeah they announced it too soon.
>copy the apocalypse gameplay
As much as I enjoyed the boss design in apocalypse I want my fucking VIT stat back. Having everyone feel squishy as fuck was dumb and ruined the build and demon diversity.
>We're in the scrap part right now
>As in, we're scrapping the game lol
>Fuck you
I guarantee they will show something at sega fes
I pirate all nintendo games after fire emblem awakening followed by buying a wiiu for SMTXfire emblem and getting tokyo mirage sessions. Infact, I even bought my new3ds and switch second hand.
Yeah well obviously not they surely are in the production part I guess.
Sega FES, a seemingly huge event where Sega will announce shit, is this Friday. Seeing as P5R was said to not get new info until April it's possible SMTV news will happen Friday.
Oh shit son, you’re right. Do you think we’ll see some in engine footage finally?
Can't wait for that announcement of an announcement of a trailer
cancelled for MEGAMI TENSEI REMAKE BAYBEE
>T. I don't know how Atlus works.
We back in business, boys.
>tfw no nakajima in the new games
This. They should also make phys skills cost hp again.
Give me demon romance in a mainline game already you cowards. I just wanna kiss my pixie.
This. It's the only thing that's missing.
>pixie
>not medusa
Why Switch exclusive? Do Atlus hates money?
DONT YOU FUCKING JINX IT
Because Persona is the Sony franchise and SMT is the Nintendo franchise, you dumb zoomer.
Fuck off, Anthony.
I wish it was a remake of SMT. I'd love to see them make the known ginger Thor be disguised as Trump, nuking Japan for God.
How long does it take to make a JRPG anyway?
No.
SMT is too high IQ for the jungian highschool simulator crowd
Atlus seems to be able to make their low budget (not an insult) games pretty quickly. As long as they have an engine and assets to reuse it generally only takes them a couple years. I wouldn’t be surprised if SMT V comes out next year, though they are spread a little thin across a few different projects right now.
>cancelled for MEGAMI TENSEI REMAKE BAYBEE
hindsight is 20/20
SMT reboot franchise in 2020
or made into another embarrassing game like what happened with SMTxFE
You can’t really use “low budget” for vidya when on one end of the professional spectrum you have 2d titles with little to no voice acting, and overrendered normalfag garbage starring motioncapped actors and face scanned models with the marketing budget of hundreds of million dollars.
SMTV is not dead
5 is very occult number
I’m Anthony and I want Ose to fuck my queer, furry ass.
I WANT TO BELIEVE
Then why is apocalypse so anime? And why is the Switch a shitty casual platform for retards?
It’s 90% persona assests
They could put 4 niggers in charge and finish it by May
Because Nocturne and SJ were failures and Persona was a success.
Why can’t I? It’s the same as when a Hollywood director makes a low budget blockbuster.
A remake of the pre-nuke segment of SMT1 would be kino. I don't even need the rest of the game, just demons spilling out everywhere and rising political tensions leading to the end of the world.
Scrape and build is Japanese culture Retard
Good, Atlus should stay focused on P5R instead of games for switch
It’s Japanese it’s always been anime
Why is every SMT thread cancer now?
It's an extension of the cancer in Yea Forums as a whole. Unfortunately, it's terminal.
Megaten was anime before it was a videogame
Nah mate P5R threads are pretty comfy. Maybe cause they're not on a shit console
you do realize that persona has its own dedicated studio, right? smtv's development shouldn't interfere with p5r's development at all.
My first "SMT" game was P5. Then went back and played P4 and then P3.
I've checked out DDS and none of those are of interest to me.
Howabout the actual SMT games? How do they stack up to Persona titles? Which would be the best to play/start with?
The beginning was fucking amazing, but the game peaks when you fight your mother and it’s all downhill from there
If anything, they'll grow a brain and ditch Nintendo, or at least make it multiplat.
>Why is every SMT thread cancer now?
why would you think that? Atlus always doesn't show shit until it's almost done.
>comfy
>theyre all people screeching about waifu shit
>and akechi
>and the new marie
MT1 is terrible.
MT2, on the other hand....
What they COULD do is an MT1/2 remake where you play a much reduced version of MT1 (the game is an actual slog, smaller dungeons, faster leveling, and fewer encounters would be great), and when you beat it, it shifts DIRECTLY into the MT2 protag playing MT1 on his PC, and him beating it being the trigger for the events of MT2.
4 is a solid place to start. It's on the 3ds.
akemi is the best boy change my mind
I don't want SMTV censored and altered to keep in line with Sony's current policies. Catherine is bad enough.
1 and 2 are shit.
3 is kino and actually features Dante from the Devil May Cry series™.
SJ was shit but the remake is good
4 is good but broken, as in literally broken gameplay wise
4A has amazing gameplay and I personally love the story but some disagree
>it's okay when I portbeg
Personafags who got into it recently and don't know how to lurk worth shit.
Why does hiro range ban South America?
They’re sub human monkeys shit up the board and are a very very small minority
Because much like nu-Persona fans, nu-SMT fans haven't played anything before PS2 games.
Fuck that, they should remake megami tensei with the novel as basis.
Basically ignore the actual games and just use the series mechanics and demons.
Persona and SMT threads are, and have been, shit for a good while now. The only notable improvement to SMT threads in recent times is that one guy doesn't shill his fangame in SMT threads as much anymore.
>1 and 2 are shit.
how to detected a
I’ve only played SMT, is Persona worth it? I have a PS4 but just for Bloodborne/Spider-Man
How is 4 broken? I finished it with no issues.
Also, Soul Hackers > rest of franchise, and smt 1 is great if you’re not a brainlet. Unless you meant MT, fuck that
>Soul Hackers > rest of franchise
Based and hackpilled
MT2 is severely underrated Megaten kino
Nu-SMTfags started with nocturne
>b-b-but muh western release
Not an excuse
I'd say it's at least worth trying. I see it as the kind of series you love or you hate. There's a lot more dialogue than you'll find in any SMT, it's a lot easier too, but its got its own unique structure to it and it's a nice take on a JRPG.
You mean 4
This
Funny enough these are the same persona fags who called PQ too hard
This. I want my phys/support demons.
Remember how long it took from the first P5 announcement to its release?
Games are trash dude
>How is 4 broken? I finished it with no issues.
Str stat is worthless.
Whole game can be cheesed with Maka/Tetra.
I though SH was shit.
Am very fond of DS though.
DS3 when?
no new games, nbd i like the games no matter what
SMT1 is the best in the series, much like how Persona 1 is the best in its series.
Also SMT IV brought in a lot of newfags but IV was “The dark souls of persona”
At least IV fags can take a punch
Persona. 5 in particular amplified the shit they spew.
>Games are trash dude
I bet you like 3rd person RPGs, too.
>Am very fond of DS though.
Oh, is this some good taste?
What is happening in 3 days
We need more DeSu
I want more Abel
>Str stat is worthless
I played and finished it with a STR build tho
So what feature from a previous game that everyone unanimously loves are they going to inevitably drop for no good reason?
Persona 2: Innocent Sin was better
It’s 1 but literally all it’s problems are fixed
>Fuck that, they should remake megami tensei with the novel as basis.
Yes.
Go back to source material.
Make a new game with a new name.
No one will play the fifth game because they think they must first play the first four.
>SMT1 is the best in the series
You don't actually believe this
This isn't pokemon retard
>I bet you like 3rd person RPGs, too.
I liked Dark Souls and Blooborne very much. My main problem with SMT1/2 is the lack of QoL features. The games are a bitch to play.
Yeah I am very fond of DeSu. I would like more. Shame the series appear to have ended.
>I played and finished it with a STR build tho
Good on you buddy. STR stat doesn't actually power up your skills in that game. You went through a lot of pain sorry.
>tfw no cute romance with Beelzebub
Why can't we have nice things anons?
Abel a best.
>STR stat doesn't actually power up your skills in that game.
Wait, what?
Eh, the dungeons aren't as good, but it adds a lot of interesting systems. I dislike the persona summoning method, however.
Personally, it's my favorite, SMT2 has too much backtracking/fetchquest shit and no easy world map, SMT3 is pretty fucking fun, but I don't like the Vortex World as much and has the problem of being too easy on normal, and too hard on hard. SMT4 has a lot of flaws, but I like the world and characters before the game kinda farts out at the end. IV:A fixes problems, while confusing the world and characters even more.
>My main problem with SMT1/2 is the lack of QoL features. The games are a bitch to play.
They're certainly easier to play than the Wizardry games of their era, or you could just play the PS versions with map shortcuts, better UI and equipment screens, etc. Especially IF..., it had a ton of improvements that Gideon, that fuckhead, skipped over by doing he SNES version.
It does, just less than dex. Str primarily boosts the auto attack. Atlus sucks
Personafags who have never played an SMT game before don't help, but the constant shitflinging towards Persona is every bit as bad. It often comes up out of nowhere and is just some retards complaining you can't kill your friends or some shit, and then all the other retards join in and brag about how good their taste is because they've played the most entry-level non Persona MegaTen games, and how Personafags could never understand the depths on Nocturne's combat and whatever other shit they go on with. Nobody cares that you don't like Persona, half the people posting in SMT threads seem to dislike Persona more than they like SMT and it's obnoxious to watch them go on about it, it's annoying in its own right and it attracts Personafags who don't even know what they're talking about to argue about it and then the threads just ends up being arguments between inbreds with the occasional hoypost to break things up, and everyone participating in it aside from the hoyposter is responsible for the thread going to shit.
You're right, this is SMT. And Atlus is developing it. So I repeat the question.
What the game doesn't tell you is that STR is for increasing your shitty basic attack while DEX is what boosts your skill damage.
I literally dropped that game when I found out. Didn't return until like a year later.
Imagine the game's out EOY...
I want it so bad....
I'm not saying I dislike Persona, in fact it's a pretty fun series. It's just the problem of secondaries getting into SMT after playing Persona and not knowing what they're talking about half the time, making SMT threads shittier.
Although I would agree, shitflinging at Persona isn't really fair. It's just that it's hard to not when it's the biggest bringer of cancer into these threads.
>winter 2014
>now radio silence and "we only started working on it"
I can't keep doing this shit
>too easy on normal, and too hard on hard
You say this like SMT1 isn't balanced even worse
They rarely do that and if the decision isn't popular (among japanese fans at least) then they tend to listen
I expect the VIT stat to return for SMTV. I reckon the only reason Apocalypse didn't already do that is engine limitations
they'll probably re-show it when they're like 95% done and release the game like 3 months later, kind of like IV:A
As long as I'm not waiting a decade or half of one, then sure
Demifiend is one of Kaneko's worst designs for a human character.
>literally every mainline game barring III (which was not well recieved originally) and an Xbox moneyhat spinoff have debuted on Nintendo consoles
>why is the next entry on Nintendo?
You and those NMH faggots need to fuck off already
It's not like #FE was any better too.
I like him, not his best human design, but I don't feel like its his worst, though I find it hard to pick what would be his worst.
Persona isn’t “bad” as a series it’s just casual-friendly with the story focus and as such attracts fucking faggots to the threads.
>love the story of SMTIVA
>I and II are shit
Why am I not surprised?
>Winter 2015
It'll come around when it does. Showing it at the Switch announcement was probably a mistake, even if it is lowkey a Nintendo staple.
In 1 character you can see why SMTfags don’t value friendship
I get why Aleph looks the way he does but it still looks fucking stupid whenever I see him, though I would take him over a fuckboy like Nanashi any day.
Jesus christ, fuck off
Was he right?
Only if Nanashi agreed with him.
Right? He was just a hippie trapped in a skeleton-cage, nothing more. He did what he had to do to break free
Which game should I play after SMT2? Already finished Nocturne and 1, was thinking about SJ or IV.
Also the art for the first game is highly underappreciated.
>He was just a hippie
His mom was the hippy faggot, though.
She's the peace & love-type of hippie, Dagda is a literal tree-hugger
Why not play IF...? Unless you're burnt out from DRPG SMT games.
SJ
Probably SJ to take a rest from the main series.
Maybe play devil survivor if the gameplay is getting repetitive.
Yes.
Yeah
I don’t become a god being a pussy
SJ if you want to see the old format of dungeon crawling go to its fullest extent.
IV if you want some better story and more cyberpunk stuff
Absolutely not. Maybe delayed for-fucking-ever, but not cancelled
They're announcing Shin Megami Tensei V: The Royale With Cheese
I got bored and decided to make Dagda black. Rate how well I did.
"Ayo nigga, I hate god, now you're my prison bitch. Fuck your homies and thots and do what I say bitch. God have been a pimp for too long and now it's my turn. Don't worry, you'll get your cut too. Aight nigga, now you can have one prison bitch of your own... you pick a guy, nigga that's gay"
How did I do?
Megaten was an excessively shitty light novel before it was anything else
Nanashi is probably the worst design
Why can’t they just go with more simple clean characters?
does anyone know of an SMT discord server?
>kill yo' friends, nigga
100/10
Please rewrite all his lines in niggerese
Would unironically be 10 times more interesting
>IV if you want some better story
IV's story is pretty bad though. SJ has a way better story since it's at least competent.
>Ayo kill yo’ niggas my nigga
Sorry but I'm not a faggot.
All LNs are shit that reads like someone’s grade school homework because they’re written by people who can’t fucking write for people who are too dumb for real books.
>All of SMT 4A was just a Boondocks-esque Nigga Moment between Dagda and everyone
Beautiful
IV's story is fucking trash, though
The chaos story line kind of shits itself 3/4 though
It was bad enough I reset my alignment back to Neutral
Always remember
A nigga moment plus Nigga synthesis
equals
A COMPLETE FUCKING DISASTER
IV's plot is just bad in general. They introduce several ideas, albeit some good ones, that never fucking go anywhere and use SMTI/II plot points to fill in areas they didn't know how to write while calling it "nostalgic referencing".
People just forget how bad it was since IV:A's was so bad it made IV's look good in comparison.
>They introduce several ideas
such as?
>albeit some good ones
that's fair
>that never fucking go anywhere
where were they supposed to go?
>"nostalgic referencing"
this is literally the worst
Yeah if I just had IV with IVA’s combat it would be a legit 10/10
I personally wish I had the money to fund my own Megaten spin off that’s just ultra edgy SMT that more light hearted than Lisa the Painful but not as goofy as persona
>he doesn't enjoy the the fuccboi
Please learn how to post user.
>such as?
Mikado is dropped shortly after you reach Tokyo and fades away from the plot until the very end where it sort of comes back with on the neutral route.
Kaga and the Gaian cult are introduced to you and then immediately are killed in the same fucking area you meet her, giving her a whooping 15 minutes of so of relevance.
The plot about demons eating the red pills literally goes fucking nowhere. Tayama dies and then the game just pretends the plot point stopped existing.
The "Goddess of Tokyo" is a stupid OC that exists for literally no reason, adding nothing to the plot.
SMTIV has a lot of stupid shit, I like the game user but it's obvious how incompetent the team behind it was.
That's what IV:A started out as actually. It was meant to be a director's cut for IV similar to what they did with Nocturne but after some time they just decided to make a new game.
It's a shame as I feel had they reworked on IV and gave it IV:A's combat system it could be really good.
>SMTIV maniax
>you get your Marie 2.0 who makes the plot worse
Are you forgetting that instead of adding one shitty new girl that IV:A made an entire new shitty cast for you to deal with throughout the game? IV:A gave you an entire cast of Maries
>Soul Hackers > rest of franchise
How can anyone actually think this? Soul Hackers is fucking garbage compared to the most of the games that came before and after it.
I’m not a faggot.
unironically yes
This
Even DeSu and persona 4 are above soul hackers
Soul hackers had a good OST that’s about it
>Sega specifically said that this year’s presentations will mostly revolve around ATLUS and Creative Assembly, with a major announcemnent involving the status of ATLUS as a company at the end.
Calm your tits, it’ll be there.
You're not wrong.
Well least IVA in the end is just a glorified what if/route rather than being a version that completely fucks with the plot of the OG
SEGATLAS conformed
Strange Journey then pirate Innocent Sin
>it's just only Re:Fantasy news
I can wait for
SMT V featuring Sonic the hedgehog
I personally wish DMC V would have a
“Featuring Demi-fiend from SMT V” free dlc expansion
>implying that's a bad thing
I would be fine with that too
Honestly I think it’s more likely that Sega will Use it’s licensing agreement with GW to put the Chaos Gods into Dx2 as event demons to cross promote Total Warhammer 3
>Not & Knuckle
I agree but I’m still disappointed
>Fuck up in setting up 1 fucking debilitate
>proceeds to wipe my entire party's ass
I love tis bossfight.
i just want both, a bit greedy but whatever
we don't even know if its a switch exclusive
I can't say I'm not in the same boat. And to be fair, it's likely they aren't being worked on by the same team anyway.
We do. P5R isn't, though.
Just like we don't know if P5R is a PS4 exclusive
amirite?
one of the best things about dds2
also does he look like smt 1's chaos hero but older to anyone else
How would you react if SMTV turned out to be first person like the first 2?
More than likely
Outside Nocturne literally every mainline SMT has been on a Nintendo platform
Hell they changed the name of the series from Megani tensi to basically
Super (Shin) Megani tensi
What other company likes to call its products Super?
I don’t mind
Hell just have some more black anime girls
Of all the cancer SJWs brought more black anime girls is literally the only good effect they’ve had
When will DoomChad come back?
He was my favorite character honestly. I love the design for both his human and atma avatar and just thought he was neat in general.
I always feel conflicted about bringing
him to the sun. I like him more then Heat but it feels far more appropiate to bring Heat.
I hope SMT gets Devil Survivor like routes. I'm getting tired of the usual ideological endpoints.
>the cutscene that plays between him and heat in the sun
what a bro tier character
the depth of all the major characters in that game is really good though
Absolutely based
Yep.
Absolutely.
Source or gtfo cunt
...You do realize SMTIVA is canon right?
Did you even play the game?
No you didn't.
>is one of the most powerful beings in the universe
>literally just guy with gun
most based SMT protag
I think he means the fact that 4A and 4 don't exactly fit up, plot-wise. 4A starts before the end of 4's neutral ending and all that.
H O Y
O
Y
When are we getting a full white nihilism route. Fuck existence
this is now a jack thread
Never. They retconned shit in 4A because they realized that the White were too right in 4.
>MT1 is terrible.
I have never played the MT games. Is the first one just a grindy dungeon crawler? What makes MT2 better?
>Pascal the dog is here.
Has Atlus ever cancelled a SMT game they announced?
I can't find proof.
Blame console warriors. It'll continue for a long, long time. I really don't understand how sonyroaches even play victims when majority of shitposting is obviously coming from them.
Have you been on /smtg/? That autist is making a new game, and soon he'll spam it everywhere.
Personafags are pure cancer. And no, not those who are "trying to get into SMT", but those who have never actually played any game and just come to shitpost.
Nigga just type SegaFes into google.
It’s not hard.
There’s also Sakura Wars news coming if anyone’s into that series.
Retard. STR does increase skill damage, just less than DEX.
And it doesn't fucking matter anyway because the game is piss easy post-Medusa.
There was a Virtual boy game that wasn’t Jack Brothers that was in extremely early dev but got scrapped almost instantly because it crashed and burned and I think there was a top down strategy one for either the dreamcast or saturn or something that got shitcanned too after the first one got roasted by fans and critics of the time.
Not 100 percent certain on that second one though.
>>now radio silence and "we only started working on it"
>"we only started working on it"
It was more than a year ago dude. And they finished production back then, which is still a huge part of game development - everything was already decided back then, now they just need to finish their vision of the game. I'm confident that the game will be released in 2020. I don't think 3 years is too much for a first 3D SMT in a while. It's very important for the series' future and they don't want to fuck this up. I can see that despite their faults, new team genuinely loves SMT and doesn't want it to die.
>those NMH faggots
TSA is based though, unless you mean retards that come and screech about its low metacritic ratings despite never actually playing the game.
Ronde came out on Saturn, but it was outsourced.
>SJ
>rest from the main series
Hell no. It's mainline and pretty tedious one at that. Just play DDS.
It's a shame that higher ups decided to fuck with IVA development. I wish we still had an older main cast.
Not that user, but you're right, MT1 is fairly clunky and bare bones. MT2 is like proto-SMT2.
>being excited for Hackshino's turd
Enjoy your Isekai Persona that Hackshino will unironically consider a philosophical masterpiece. He'll probably even add his game to the cover. A HACKSHINO KATSURA GAME.
The power of a Chad cannot be contained
>Demifiend
>Human
Serouisly the difficulty fell off a cliff after Medusa
I still had it doesn’t have a 69 metacritic anymore
Fucking Sterling
>Persona 2: Innocent Sin was better
I've never hated a jrpgs combat by the end more than this game
MT2 is amazing while MT1 is just "duhhh enter the dungeon and... yeah...".
It's actually like this in most SMT, though it's most noticeable there. I think IVA handled it really well, bosses weren't complete pushovers and YHVH was great.
He only bitched about the game because "muh anti-consumer sequel blackmailing". Even though the fucking game itself confirms that NMH3 is in works. Fat fuck didn't even play the game.
P-Studio is great, but ONLY when they're not making Persona. Now fuck off with your shit opinion.
after replaying it I agree
Hell an HD remake would fix all of its problems fairly easily
>physical skills don’t scale off strength and take MP
>demons with good physical skills have low MP and mediocre Dex
>magic is incredibly busted
man Atlus just had the hugest magic boner when they made IV didn’t they. Maybe they were just compensating for how shit magic builds were in Nocturne.
I hope V is balanced somewhat on what builds are viable.
>TMS #FE Blocks your path
Why the fuck do they talk so fucking much god damn.
Sounds about right
I hope they take better notes from nocturne, story from IV and combat from IVA
10/10 SMT right there
Have you played Strange Journey and any games other than PS2 ones?
Not directed by Katsura.
If anything, that's proof he makes BETTER games instead of worse.
yeah I played SJ but the stat growths are random in that so you can't really aim for a specific build.
Your stat growths in SJ are based on the personality quiz at the start, but if you didn't answer honestly you're dishonorable and your clear data is tainted
What do they call a Big Mac?
If I was director 1st thing I’d do is cut the dialogue by 80%
They don’t need a wall of dialogue to say
“ZOMG We have powers! Wowie!”
This fucking hell
Yeah Just like how Persona 5 was cancelled after years of silence
Why do stats only go up to 40 in Nocturne? Is there a specific design reason or is it just an arbitrary number?
Arbitrary number. IV went with 200 as the max and 100 as the soft cap, while SJ stopped at 99 for the hard cap.
DDS goes up to 99 as well.
Stats can go higher technically, it's really weird but while the stats will look the same leveling past 99 does increase some kind of value. This hidden value determines a few things, the strength of Gaea Rage is determined by it for example. The actual level limit is 255, only available in NG+ though.
Devil survivor goes to 40 or 20, from what I remember.
It's just a convenient arbitrary number. Max level being 99, max stat being 40 and protagonist characters getting one customizable stat point per level makes it so that you can potentially max out two stats while leaving the rest far worse off, or make a decent balanced build if you're so inclined. Other games have just taken different approaches to building protag and demon stats.
>smt thread dies again
nigger
i hope they dont do that shit with mp again. Having to spam great chakras because they are worthless during yhvh was awful
Phys using MP is better because using HP is way too fucking expensive and requires constant healing of your phys attackers.
While i actualy prefer hp usage, what i meant was unlike most other games items like chakra pots and great chakras dont fully restore mp. Late game where you are spending hundreds of mp a turn it gets pretty bad when the most you can give someone is 150
it wouldn't be that bad if all the physical attackers didn't have shit MP compared to most other demons.
Physical attacks are way cheaper than magical.