Should lootboxes/gacha games be banned?

play other games

no. if people are retarded with their money and end up homeless that's just natural selection

but think of the children user

I want them banned because I love the anal anguish of lazy developers and Jews more than I love the idea of retards giving them more money.

any modern games with the option to turn off cosmetics?

Soon all games will be designed for lootboxes.
They will pretend they aren't and offer hours and hours of grinding to avoid lootbox based progression systems.

>fäm
you fucking nigger

If gambling isn't illegal, neither should games that are glorified slot machines be.

No, but people who play them should be hung

Yes, they are heroin for people with not enough personal skills to find a heroin dealer in their town.

reminder that capitalism works and all you need to do to stop this trend is not spend your money on games with loot boxes

Then seek another form of entertainment, since you're obviously not the target demographic of this one. Why is this so complicated? Alterantively, make games yourself the way you see fit.

none outside of mods (TF2 for example)

Nigger the last time this happened it literally got the entire internet in arms with swbf2 and convinced the whole gaming community that the law should step in

Like hell is anyone going to get away with doing that

>all you need to do to stop this trend is not spend your money on games with loot boxes
Incorrect, if I stop lmao I never started to begin with and no one else does then the system will remain.

>banned
No
>regulated
Yes, same with THIS ENTIRE FUCKING CORRUPT INDUSTRY BEFORE IT GETS ANY WORSE

yes because people who waste their money on this type of shit are retarded i dont care if its your money you cant justify any mobile game because they're all cash grabs looking for you money the mobile gaming market is literally a joke. if you play any mobile game you should stop

Beta answer.

if the parents can't control their own credit cards then their lineage deserves to end regardless

For Honor allows you to turn off the purchasable character particle effects clientside, or even show them only on your own character if you want

fucking this
>don't call it out for what it is
>devs make more and more cashgrab games instead of genuine games with thought put into them
>devs hamper the progress of players playing for free who normally would drop twenty dollars on an actual version of the game without the p2w bullshit
>"LE JUST DONT LE PLAY LE GAME"
>there are no new games left to play because every fucking game in existence is now centered around profit first, fun never

unregulated capitalism is no better than communism because you just end up getting fucked by corporations instead of the government

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Well they are effectively being regulated here.
Gambling isn't actually banned in most EU countries, but it is restricted such as only having 18+ year-olds being able to gamble online, etc.
The effect of interpreting lootboxes as gambling is that, if you want to put loot crates in your game, it automatically becomes a PEGI 18 rated game. Not too smart if you were aiming for 13 year olds as your target demographic in the hope that they'd be fucking idiots with daddy's credit card.

>I'm entitled to entire studios of people to slave away 5 years to make games my way so that I can forget that I'm a mentally ill incel for 10 hours
nah, man, kill yourself

Lootboxes and similar should be a thing in all FREE games, but should be limited to cosmetics.

Any lootboxes or similar (cash shop for comestics) in paid (or even subscription based games), should not ever be a thing. EVER.

>mobile games
>taking more than six months to develop at most
>being against escapism in a form of entertainment DESIGNED to be escapism
>spouting reddit buzzwords

Go back. Good bait, but go back.

>every fucking game in existence is now centered around profit first, fun never
this to a point

I agree that most big devs now are trying to go for a cash grab of a game instead of making something fun, but i think small indie devs are making some of the right moves to make games that are more enjoyable.

But why do play a shitty game instead of just hunting the interent for more images?

>toons
>fäm
Kill yourself reddit.

>i just like collecting my favorite toons fäm
this is what i imagine you look like

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There shouldn't be free games then. It allows people to get away with justifying microtransactions, and I don't like this attitude people have adopted where "if it's for cosmetics it's okay". Fuck you I want to earn them not pay for them.

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>I don't like this attitude people have adopted where "if it's for cosmetics it's okay"
i dont see how anyone agrees with microtransactions, if i wasnt addicited to these dumbass mobile games in high school i could've saved but no the trend in 2010-14 was mobile gaming for me so much wasted

Hey that's pretty close senpai.

>I don't know what gacha is
capsule toy machine and same mechanic in japanese mobile games

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EU Dokkan Players btfo. How will mobile gaming ever recover

Fuck off to Reddit, nigger

Yes. Fuck lootboxes.

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Why do you people support censorship and government control over what you can and can't do?

>ESRB tries to enforce loot box rules in Murrica
>Gamers revolt and they get shot
Post yfw this will inevitably happen

No, just ban gambling addicts from society and the problem solves itself.

Yea, because that has worked so well in anything except absolute dictatorship governments

every civilized society disagrees with you jew

>No, just ban gambling addicts from society and the problem solves itself
>just ban them
hes onto something

>Why do you people support censorship and government control over what you can and can't do?
because sometimes to make things better you need laws in place to help those who cant think for themselves

Yes, because it encourages pay 2 win and companies trying their damndest to screw the consumer. That it's also essentially gambling is just the icing on the cake, because it draws in the retards with no impulse control or highly addictive personalities, so you get "whales" blowing thousands on games.

>if that means better video games then I'm all for it
But it fucking doesn't. You people are so baffling
Have you ever PLAYED a game with loot boxes? They're garbage. They actively make the game's they're in worse. I had the poor judgement of playing Overwatch and Apex Legends for a while and they load them up with garbage and drop them at progressively slower and slower rates in the hopes that you're one of those 1% whales. After ten hours or so you just brace for disappointment every time you get one.
Earning in-game makes for infinitely better video games. Even fucking microtransactions can be better if it's a free to play game. Loot boxes do literally nothing but make a game worse

Yes. And trading card booster packs should be gambling too.

fuck off with your social engineering, schlomo. people should have freedom and spend their shekels on what they want not on your cousin's circumcision firm or whatever

installing those games should put you on a list where the glowniggers come and kill you

fuck gacha and the people that play it

So I should be punished because you are a fucking retard?

>just ban
wow user, you're so smart! What's your next genius move? Banning people who break the law?

>to help those who cant think for themselves
if they can't think for themselves that's their problem

YES BASED GOVERNMENT THANK YOU
I CANNOT TRUST MYSELF WITH MY OWN INCOME
I AM LITERALLY INCAPABLE OF NOT SPENDING MY MONEY
PLEASE HELP ME THANK YOU MAMA MERKEL

I never have and never will play any sort of trash game that requires gacha shit but jesus christ you people are why article 13 passed, I fucking hate being a part of the eu

>I rather have poor homeless people that'll rob and kill me for pennies than stopping them from becoming poor homeless people that'll rob me in the first place despite such laws won't touch me personally to begin with
Get raped by Tyrone, Marxist scum

It used to work for the UK. Somehow, Australia became a first world country

oi that's really rude and toxic post, i hope you get banned for that

They are underage retards who have grown up with it all their lives and know no different. They think it's normal and acceptable.

>I need the government to tell other people what games they can and can't play
Imagine being this insecure.

>governments banning gambling software
Fuck authoritarians.

>*points gun at you*
>yo gib all tha moni or I kill u, quick nigga, gotta roll for tha jannu booty, rateup won't last the entire day, gib it already, faster or u die
Eh, I don't think that happens

>So I should be punished because you are a fucking retard?
user i know youre upset and i see you seething onions from your pores, go hit the gym and get in shape then come back

>if they can't think for themselves that's their problem
i get what you mean but instead of leaving the people to rot instead the laws are put in place to try and lean them towards being a better person but they obviously have their flaws and other parties not involved are dragged in

They're gambling too, especially with games specifically slotting the best cards into the highest rarities. And adding fucking chase cards on top of that to boot. Magic got fucked by this practice, thats why it's a thousand fucking dollars to make any kind of tournament worthy deck for anything that isn't pauper, and tens of thousands for older formats because they also refuse to reprint anything because of oldfags and their "muh speculative and collector market". It's nothing but a sham.

The worst part is all the retards defending it and saying it's not gambling.

THANKS GOVERNMENT
*licks boot*
HOW COULD I LIVE WITHOUT YOU TELLING OTHER PEOPLE WHAT GAMES THEY CAN PLAY
*gives up firearms*
THE WORLD IS SO MUCH BETTER OFF WITH POWER CONCENTRATED IN THE HANDS OF THE FEW
*applies for masturbation permit*

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Yes, their only purpose is exploit retards and they bring nothing to the games.

>to try and lean them towards being a better person but they obviously have their flaws and other parties not involved are dragged in
It's the same thing with piracy. People who were planning to buy something and can pirate buy it anyway, people who weren't going to buy and can't pirate won't buy it anyway.
Forcing people to change by force doesn't work. You just need to see why they fall for these behaviors and give them incentives and opportunities to improve, and if they decide they don't want, then they don't.

Yeah, look at that paradise Somalia where every man rules his own property, this is the society we want!

I /breed/ in Azur Lane. Very few games let me do that

>corporate bootlicker defends mr. shekelberg corporation
>he can't even fap without mr. shekelberg lube because his dick is mutilated
>*get shot*
>pay for the medic if you survive (you might need a loan from mr. shekelberg)
Guess that's the price of freedom.

well, yeah
any way you manage to get rid of shit games is a good way

its like modern day pokemon cards

I know you're shitposting but Somalia is actually better off now than they were before their government collapsed.

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0147596707000741

Well who cares, it's not like anybody is idiot enough to play this game or lmao, so fucking retarded that they would put money in to this shit. So everyone who plays this, nothing is changed as you can still get the stuff you gte trough normal playing, imagine paying for this "game".
Thank god Yea Forums is retard free.

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>Implying mr shekelberg isn't also colluding with the government for monopoly privileges

Depends on the games and if they're pay-to-win. Lottery tickets should be banned though

yeah. ban gachaniggers from life

Well, he sure is since their government is Mr. Shekelberg best friend and they fully support Shekeland.

>everyone talking about people having freedom and being responsible with themselves and letting nature decide
>some retard calling them marxist jewd because they won't let big brother make decisions for them so everyone is equal and reliant on
Somebody here clearly doesn't understand what marxism and the whole jew business is

you forgot your "hate speech" buzzword

How do you fucking retards still not understand? This is not the problem

>I CANNOT TRUST MYSELF WITH MY OWN INCOME

This is

>THE UNEDUCATED FUCKING IDIOTIC MASSES ARE ENABLING CANCEROUS PRACTICES AND VOTING WITH YOUR WALLET IS PROVEN TO NOT WORK NOW THAT THE HOBBY IS NO LONGER NICHE AND GUARDED AND I AM BEING FUCKED ROYALLY BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT GAME INTEGRITY ARE SPENDING HOARDS OF MONEY AT GAMES DESIGNED TO BAIT WHALES

YOU
FUCKING
IDIOT

So how about Japan and Korea. Two of the most intelligent races by far making blacks, whites, Jews all look like chimps, loving these games? What's your hot take greentext story there?

This shit should be mandatory in school.

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Good, if lootboxes and such are banned devs will be forced to make games without them

they'll just circumvent it somehow

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Intelligence isn't common sense. Koreans think LUCK is skill for fucks sake.

I feel that lootboxes/gacha should not have the ability to be purchased directly through real world currency/special currency that can only be bought with real world currency.
Lootboxes/gacha should only be purchasable through common gameplay generated currency, therefore becomes an incentive for players to grind and serves as a sink for the common currency.

Well then we get zombies, and we all win.
Fuck, I miss left for dead.

Just because people are against games that try to squeeze every single cent you have doesn't mean they support fucking article 13, quit thinking in extremes

you are the reason article 13 passed, videogames have been moneygrubbing garbage since 7th gen and you faggots sperg out about it now instead of making a fuss about horse armor and calling for total bans of mtx and paid digital distribution in general

I was just replying to that retard (you, I guess). And yest, these countries ban guns and have healthcare. Thanks for proving my point.

>>THE UNEDUCATED FUCKING IDIOTIC MASSES ARE ENABLING CANCEROUS PRACTICES
Because socialism gives them money they shouldn't have, you dolt.

Maybe, but here's the thing user, the only reason they added those, or even invented loot boxes, is to squeeze out all of your money

Yes they should, but our govies wont let them be banned completely. Why? Because it makes money for their friends the corporations.

Are you saying there's no skill in poker?

I support anything that makes games better and gives us more single player games.

>Just because people are against [product] that try to squeeze every single cent
so literally every product ever made in the history of the universe?

Yes but because they are shitty games not because e-gambling

I HAVE been bitching about it since horse armor and nothing has happened. I will vote and campaign for whatever it takes to get it totally and irrevocably banned. Voting with your wallet doesn't work and trying to convince normies not to do something stupid is impossible.

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Spoken like a true lucklet :^)

You didn't answer the question. How does your MUH SHEKELBERG LOL CUT PENISES memery fit in with Asia who actually makes these games?

>And yest, these countries ban guns and have healthcare.
Japan also virtually doesn't have migrants so everyone there wants what's best for japan and not what's best for their own bubble of a community

Microtransactions=/=all products you retard, tell me any other industry that does this kind of shit, 'cause I'am yet to see a shop that sells a banan but with parts of it missing to be sold seperately to you by the cashier

>You just need to see why they fall for these behaviors and give them incentives and opportunities to improve, and if they decide they don't want, then they don't.
i get what youre saying and this is a valid point. The only thing is most people don't want to give up on others even though they fail and rot people still want to see others succeed not fail but you do make a very good point

Asians have waifu autism and their governments gets a nice tax cut. Is the equivalent of smokers.

Also japs and gooks are island and peninsular merchants, respectively.

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>normie
you are one of them, go back and stay there

What a brainlet post talking about a concept he's too dumb to actually understand, or too ignorant to know what it actually means. Must be an anglo

If I could sell you a pebble for a mountain I would. It's you're responsibility to get those synapses going and say "wow that would be really stupid of me" and not buy

normalfag takes too long to type, cry more

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reddit

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paranoid

faggot

you need to go back, keep whining to government on whatever "sub" you visit

>Voting with your wallet doesn't work
Kind of true. I've bought many games only for them to turn to shit in the next installment.

Publishers seem to think that because a game was successful this now gives them the right to move it in the casual direction more and make a hasty a simplified sequel.

No, I bought those games to get the same but better next time...

maybe when you can refute my points newfag

I never fall for micro transactions/pre-orders/day one dlcs tho, I'm for that law simply because it will discourage devs to make games centered around microtransactions via implementing massive grind and shitty progression

reminder normie is from fucking /r9k/ I fucking hate you, you're not getting away with this, and it's fucking stupid

/r9k/ is and always has been full of nothing but redditors and tourists complaining that they can't get laid

you need to go back

this, ignore electionfugees desperately trying to fit in

>The only thing is most people don't want to give up on others even though they fail and rot people still want to see others succeed not fail
That's pretty optimistic of you. In a competition I certainly would want to see myself succeed and thus see others fail. Most people are inherently selfish and only help other because they are inside their own community and thus they themselves have something to gain.
Though, "I want my country to be better so I want the people that make up my own country to be better" - would be the mentality people would have had the jews not forced every country to be filled with unassimilable foreigners. So you're not totally off either.

Fuck off with your meta-discussion.

>/r9k/ is and always has been full of nothing but redditors and tourists complaining that they can't get laid
fair enough
That depends, if you're going to disparage normalfag, I'm going to be obliged to make some impotent threats at you.

you can use either, but trying to police how a word is typed is fucking autistic

Companies would want the money regardless. The retail price would go up and massive budget cuts would be made all over the place

sue me, bitch
I'm never going to embrace the "ironic" fucking babyspeak, and normalfag was actually useful, unlike the inane fucking normie whine

>That's pretty optimistic of you.
Yeah i tend to try and think even though i know most people are selfish that others will also be willing to help those in need. im glad we could have a civil discussion about this user i hope you have a good rest of your day =]

You too man, nice talk

If that means they will cut back on grind and shit, then so be it

No because the LoL ones give me free stuff and the 100%OJ ones are absolutely fantastic.

No.
I just fucking love gambling and whenever I open a crate I want to see this very high tier unusual Cotton Head

Please don't punctuate with smileys, just makes you look like a passive aggressive fag. And no, I wouldn't post this if the rest wasn't sensible. God knows there's no lack of obnoxious fags here if that's what I was looking for.

kill yourself shekelstein

>Higher budget quality for the usual price with OPTIONAL extra shit
vs
>Lower budget quality for a higher price you WILL have to pay in full

nobody gives a fuck about you

why did you sign your post?

I wish Japan would ban them too and redirect the wasted ressources on actual games.

While I commend you for breaking the form of "t." posts, please think of the environment and kill yourself, you unbelievable fucking faggot, for making such a post in the first place

>ban 4%+ of own gdp
ror no

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No.
If stupid people want to throw they're money at lootboxes, then it's completely on them for being retarded.
Dumb people exist only to serve smarter people.

Name 1 (ONE) good game that was ruined by gachaboxes.
Just one, I'll wait.

If you think each and every game with alternate means of monetization is a point in your favor, you're not a very clever man.

So none, gotcha.

No, of fucking course not.

So it's just a problem with western AAA games and mobile games, then.
Why should I care?
inb4 muh slippery slope
If retards can't help but throw their money down the toilet, who are we to stop them?

For one, if they're all dogshit there's no harm in doing away with them. QED, nigger.

Yeah, but I don't see the point of going apeshit online for muh guvmint to go ban those games, the government has more important stuff to do than stop literal braindead addicts from burning their money.
Just don't play them and you'll be fine, they're fucking dogshit, after all. Don't tell me you actually play those games...........................

Literally any game with them because without them they would be forced to implement cosmetics/items/whatever either for free or for via in game feats. If you want one actual name, EAfront 2. It was designed around their lootbox system in mind instead of being an afterthought.

>the government should tell me what to do with my money and private companies what to do with their product
I thought Yea Forums was right-wing.

If you think Yea Forums has any political stance beyond FUCK NIGGERS you've been fucking punked.

No. Only retarded alarmistfags want to ban them. Let gambling addicts be gambling addicts. Don't tell me lootboxes are ruining vidya though. These past few years have been pretty good for vidya and I haven't had to buy a single lootbox.

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I'm full /pol/, but if I wanted to spend another goddamn minute with those reddit niggers, role-playing as some social justice crusader, I would have visited there after 2016.

No, but they should be considered gambling. Which would ban them in Japan though, I think