Why do we hate Halo Reach?

>get a robot arm
>don't put a gun inside the arm
come on, at least a taser for CQC against shields.

The DMR has a longer range than the BR. Its basically a pseudo sniper. It was too good but that is on Bungie for making it too good. Should have had weaker power with less zoom ability. Basically should have functioned more like that covenant carbine than how it actually is which is more like a sniper.

We don't,3fags just needed a target when people with brains know 3 is the worst bungie-made entry

True patricians know it's actually the best Halo

This

I've long been missing the days of going online and spending all night playing Reach, hopefully the PC release can fill that hole

man, I can't wait for my warthog to be blown up by 1 mag of a gun that everybody carries, has pin point accuracy and the range of a sniper
boy, I can't wait for half the maps I'm going to play to be composed of the same metallic grey textured walls, floors and buildings
god, I can't wait for people sprinting and rolling into my face with a 2 hit melee kill
jesus, i cant wait to play through a full campaign of brown and grey with serious b-tier Hollywood movie character deaths
friend, I cant wait to be one shot by a power that everybody can carry because I wanted to run them over in my ghost
pal, I can't wait to make all my forge maps on the same empty grass and water covered map with the same metallic grey textured walls and buildings

dude I love halo reach :)

Why is it when we have a thread it has to be some negative shit, I just want to play Halo.

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MM was really unbalanced when playing against good players and if you happen to be on the weaker team. Vehicle spawn killing was fucking atrocious.
Anyone know if the DLC map packs will be included with Reach?

The only non-explosive that could kill a vehicle in one mag was the sniper rifle. Why you lying?

all the vehicles in reach were glorified power ups made of paper

reach custom games were shit compared to 3, soulless

>3 is the worst bungie-made entry
this is a fucking yikes if ive ever seen one

i dont hate the game but halo ce is best

>we
all right. fuck off out of here.

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I don't hate Reach, I hate 343i.
Even when they are handed the golden goose of good Halo games, they still fucking kill the hype.
>oh golly gee we can't run a shitty ad campaign of retarded lies again, better announce months before the release of a fucking port because ElDewrito broke 10k players

how are the black chicks where you live

Does anyone else feel like 4 is really off compared to the rest of the games? Sure, Reach and ODST had different protags and different feeling characters when you played them (Especially with ODST since you felt like a pincushion) but they felt like you were playing a Halo game the whole way through.
With 4 it's got Chief, Cortana, the Covenant, and all the classic weapons and ships but something feels really off about the whole thing. It's like you're playing a mishmash of Metroid Prime (In terms of stylistic design) meets Resistance or Killzone rather than Halo. Even the various ships, newly introduced things like the Lich and Manta, and all the new weapons just don't feel like they belong in the universe and were scooped up from somewhere else.

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Is this your first playing Halo?

Because it was garbage, only gays and trannies liked it.

Unbalanced arena and shitting on an excellent book.
Customization was Kino.

we do? hell yeah, we fucking do now. I hate this piece of shit. Hail halo 3 wohooo

bad game
no soul
poor level design
cliche low quality characters
bad story
lore rape
planetary destruction turned into anticlimatic wank
shitty elites
no forge
bad multiplayer
armor abilities

>>Improved Halo 3 staple custom games and more that weren't possible in 3's Forge

>remove forge
>HURR DURR CUSTOM GAMES R BETTAR NOW XDDDD

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Does console Halo have the same forge capabilities as Eldewrito?

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3 had best multiplayer, worst campaign (excluding reach).
campaign 2 > 1 > odst > 3
multiplayer 3 > odst > 1 > 2

/thread

Real talk though, why no needler assault rifle?

Fuck are you talking about? Both games had Forge, and Reach's was better. Speed Halo for life.

>2
>Last
>Best multiplayer maps in the series
Plebs shouldn't be allowed to post.

Your fanfiction was never canon.

very few good maps(why do you think every map got replaces with a forge world varient in all of the playlists) Gray is boring to look at too so forge world sucked ass for anything that wasnt silly
DMR instead of br so every fight turned into long range plinking each other
armor abilties

Probably not. I love going out of bounds and changing the brightness, fog, and skybox.

Because the story is bad and the game is ugly as fuck.

Halo 3 had basically no good maps and every playlist started resorting to Foundry and Sandbox playlists.

It was ok. You could tell that, even by then, the Halo magic had gone. Whatever lightning Bungie caught with CE and 2 was fading. They made the same mistake Epic made with Gears: No First Contact with the Covenant/Locust game.

>remove forge
Please don't talk about shit you know nothing about

Nobody:
BUNGiE: Let's shoehorn some dead Shadowrun in to Halo before we kick this burning trojan in to Microsoft's hands because we are so sick and tired of making a sci-fi, first-person shooter where you fight against aliens and a mysterious, undead-like faction.
Also BUNGiE: Let's now join ACTIVISION to make a a sci-fi, first-person shooter where you fight against aliens and a mysterious, undead-like faction!

I spent hundreds of hours in forge, in both games, my braindead newfag. Reach Forge was neutered beyond recovery. One map? Gee thanks man, fucken epic! Same custom game again and again and again and NOTHING new ever! FUCK YEAH!

This

Holy fuck Halo 3 had some of the shittiest maps in the series. It was literally saved by Foundry/Sandbox.

>Isolation
>Longshore
>Epitaph
>Rat's Nest
>Ghost Town
>Orbital
>Narrows
>Fucking Snowbound

All these maps SUCKED

>forge, in both games
What happened to them "removing it"?
>One map
Refer to my previous reply

I liked it, but something was distinctly non-haloy about it that I felt was missing from the older games. Like the cool factor was toned down, and the realism of the war was upped. The squadmates were all very campy but in a way that felt unoriginal and like a new movie or something. Sgt. Johnson was very campy too but he gave off a very different vibe that I think fit the tone better. Reach reminds me a lot of ODST.
I think a lot of Halo is just that. You had this very campy and ridiculous but cool setting that was popularized and expanded on by books and sequels. But once you start expanding the series into more serious tones, you still have chief and Sgt. Johnson, who are these cool comic book characters, that just end up not fitting in anymore. But they are what defines the series so you can't get rid of them either. So what do you do?
Well IDK but Reach felt like that huge departure from the old series into something new. If they had continued in this direction with Halo I would've been fine with it. I think when they went back to Chief in Halo 4 they made a huge misstep by trying to fit him in with the new direction the series was going in. It's like they had this winning formula with Reach that could've gone so many places if they had just explored it, but instead 343 came along and thought "People like Master Chief. It HAS to be him". But why? Halo 4 just ended up being this awkward mishmash of conflicting tones to me. Why am I playing Master Chief, who I have exclusively gotten to know through his games, in a game where the entire story is based around what happened in books that I have never read and most likely will never read in my life? But with Reach you didn't need to read the book. It just fuckin banged, told you to shut up and get with it, and then SHOWED you what the fuck it was about. Not my favorite game in the series, but it at least put me into a mood.

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cringe incel reply

>Dude Narrows is good what are you talking about?
>He says as he gets spawn killed by the same sniper three times in a row

Plebs packing a shitty because muh Master Chief isn't the protag.

There are also retards on this very board who hate ODST

>There are people who dislike ODST

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So you have nothing to say, good to know
Maybe you should play a game before talking about it?

Same thing happened in Halo 3 with foundry.

...

...

Art design is everything and they messed with a long-established aesthetic for no reason

Halo 3 was so mechanically fucked that pros literally made custom game modes to make it play more like Halo 2.

I enjoyed it when it came out, I've got issues with it now years later.
>not really all that evocative of the shit mentioned in the books, defending the orbital platforms and groundside generator facilities and such
>UNSC aesthetics are kino, but Covie stuff looks uglier and less advanced than in the trilogy proper, despite happening only a few months later
>no Spartan IIs other than Jorge appear, even though Reach is what killed most of them and was their largest contribution in the lore
Should've been more like this.

youtube.com/watch?v=HfW-S6BKqIs

>But with Reach you didn't need to read the book. It just fuckin banged, told you to shut up and get with it, and then SHOWED you what the fuck it was about.
What are spartan iiis
Who is halsey
Why the fuck is the game set over a month
>BUT HALSEYS JOURNAL
That's a book

Reach is just as bad as 4 and has as many plot contrivances no matter how pretty it looked

This basically, halo 3 customs still had more SOUL but thats just because it was basically the first thing on xbox live that was universally agreed upon
every cunt found themselves awake at 3am cause there was a 16 man custom game running at some point
reach campaign was replayable as fuck with 3 people, i honestly am not sure if i ever played it solo (apart from when the game shipped early and online wasnt turned on yet so there was nothing else to do)

Well, I don't think it's just the art design. I can buy the Prometheans I guess although they do feel like they're from another series entirely but a big problem I had was that their weapons don't feel unique like the Combine weapons do which was a problem they didn't seem to have with Brutes. They have a pistol except now you can charge it for a bit which is okay, they have a BR that turns into a DMR if you scope in, they have an assault rifle except the spread is worse, they have a sniper rifle that feels no different from the human version, they have a Fuel Rod Cannon that explodes into tiny cluster bombs, and a shotgun that seems to be far worse than the human shotgun even at point blank. I can't believe I was missing Brutes throughout the whole game since they at least had some weapons that felt more unique than Prometheans.

>REPEAT: TWO SCARABS
>worst campaign
yeah fuck yourself too buddy

Campaign fag only
Story
2>1>ODST>4>Reach>3>5
Gameplay
1>2>ODST>3>Reach>5>4

>Bumper Cars
>Cat & Mouse
>Fat Kid
>Fight Club
>Hide & Seek
>Predator
>Tower of Power
>Tremors
>Troy
>Zombies

Forge kiddies begone.

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>why do you think every map got replaces with a forge world varient in all of the playlists

Forge World was originally 3 different maps that one absolute madman combined into one. Resources that would have usually gone into extra multiplayer maps had to be shared with Invasion and Firefight (modes which Halo 3 didn't have).

Keyes never explains what the Spartan Program was in Halo 1, he just gives you a pistol and tells you to kill shit.

Same in Halo Reach, it doesn't matter what kind of supersoldier you are, it's literally never mentioned - even by Halsey who just poker faces through the encounter.

you can answer all of those just with common sense though because WE KNOW reach takes place in the past
>wtf these spartans arent 8 feet tall and theres tons of them
>oh it must be like the prototype version or just the previous version

>oh finally an ONI scientist we get introduced to
>oh and she has cortana eventually cool

>why the fuck is the game set over a month?
dunno what kind of autistic question this is which is why i cant give a witty answer

it's honestly amazing how you go from H2 (which as god tier maps, there is not a single bad map in H2) to H3. what the fuck happened with the map designers again?

>Tower of Power
Jesus fuck, take me back. God I would play that shit for hours on end after school.

I like all Halo games before Halo 4.

Okay but what does having S-IIIs add to the story. Why couldn't they have been S-IIs when gameplay wise they act the exact same as CE Chief
Why have Jorge be the only S-II and the only one invested in Reach's survival. The rest are just there because "we gotta protect the UNSC" and because of that are stuck as some boring ass archetypes

Why does Jorge seem so familiar with Halsey
Am I meant to know why? Or is this just for the fans? And if it's just for the fans of the EU then why do they shit on the fans in the same game?

It's important because even after knowing each other for a month the team seems as familiar with each other as they are on the first day

Even the weakest Halo 2 maps like Burial Mounds were fun as fuck. Halo 3 just shat the bed completely. The "best" Halo 3 maps barely even compete with Halo 2's "worst."

>Tremors
>Going from the flat rocks by the where the invisibility spawned to the three rocks in front of Red Base

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We don't, we LOVE it. What are you talking about?

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>i have never consumed a piece of media that takes place in an expanded universe and not just 1 material
even if there was no books or any gay shit like that, there are things in reach that you wouldnt understand if you didnt play CE or 2 or 3
literally the enjoyment of big retard series like halo or fuckin doctor who or whatever is you hear something in a cutscene/episode and, because you're invested in this universe, it makes you think, and then either you'll rewatch it and figure it out like a big boy, or you can just research it.
these questions you are asking are highly autistic.
>Why have jorge be the only spartan 2?
why not, its cool AND it establishes very early that not everyone is going to survive reach, as we KNOW chief is the only remaining spartan 2.
>why does THE SPARTAN 2 seem so familiar with halsey, HIS "MOTHER"
gee dunno about that one

>there is not a single bad map in H2

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Because it's literally fucking blurry

Gemini is on par with 3's best.

Okay now explain why 4 requires you to read books.
Also
>still mishearing Ma'am as Mum

And it's still shit.

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Tell them to release this shit already.

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Tell them to delay it until Forge is ready so the game isn't forgotten within 6 hours of release.

Yeah but that's the point. Halo 2's bad maps are on the same quality as Halo 3's best, which really shows how fucking high the bar was set with Halo 2. It also shows how thin the line between great and garbage is, because Blackout and Last Resort fucking suck thanks to the minor changes.

No, your point was "Halo 2 has no bad maps".

A lot of people consider Halo 3's "best" maps "good." So by that metric, Halo 2 has no bad maps.

>there is not a single bad map in H2
Backwash says hi

You and them are both wrong.

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Unironically one of the funniest maps for Predator/Hide & Seek.

>explain halo 4
its shit

There was more at stake with the advent of xbox live so designers aimed at creating an equal if not greater
level of experience from the multiplayer to the campaign. Since there was a lot riding on H2 to the market and
microsoft. That doesn't explain why it felt like 3's were mediocre. Maybe they were trying too
hard with forge and just failed...
Big man just thought he was sacrificing his life to save the whole world. ;_;

>Tombstone
>Bad
Are you after a fucking slap?

>take an open-air halo 1 level
>make the starting weapon hitscan
>remove grenade tricks
>nerf camo
>fuck up the item spawn system
>fuck up the player spawn system
Yes, it's bad. Warlock and Creek are the only two CE maps that actually work in later Halos, because of their simplicity.

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Because Yea Forums can't pace their shots or time their grenades.

>implying you needed to pace

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Spectacular analysis from the user who thinks it's okay to have plot contrivances because "its cool lmao"

4 doesn't rely on books anywhere much as people think. It relies as much as Reach does.

5 on the other hand is a complete PoS when it comes to book reliance

there is no "book reliance" as i explained in my post, you obviously missed that point because you were already thinking about moving the goalposts to halo 4
now you're talking about halo 5? who is this guy

I didn't understand Reach even when I played Halo CE-3, Reach didn't belong.

>i didnt understand it
oh well why didnt you say!

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Reach didn't even look pretty.

Dude idk why but foundation always used to remind me of that elvis song - a little less satisfaction, as a kid.

I have no idea why

Story was barebones ass only a transsexual or faggot would understand, it had no plot, game was clearly gearing Bungie up for Destiny.

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This is pretty true. Playing custom maps with friends made for a lot of great memories, I almost feel sad for people who missed out on such a great feature

What I'm saying is in response to this
>Why am I playing Master Chief, who I have exclusively gotten to know through his games, in a game where the entire story is based around what happened in books that I have never read and most likely will never read in my life? But with Reach you didn't need to read the book.

What about 4 revolves around the books compared to Reach

I'm talking about Halo 5 because for some reason people think 4 has this issue when the only game that really has that problem is 5

what makes you say that?

>we?
whos we? reddit?
fucking kill yourself you sheep retard

This

I played Halo Reach after it was suggested to me as one of the best Halo games. I played it and it was just mediocre in every way. 6/10 at best; it was a video game at the very least.

What a shame that you're a tranny.

>still talking about halo 4 and 5
are you literally ok man
also, for the third time, you dont need the books, halo 1 2 and 3 do it all for you, if you're not sub 100 IQ

It's why I take gamers suggestions and shove it in the toilet. 90% of the time when someone tells you it's good, nowadays, it's shit.

Not him but even with Halo 1-3, Reach is still a mess, what is with you gays always jumping to the defense of your shit like your life depended on it?

>not just simply being aware of the fact that 9/10 games are complete dogshit and thats the end of it
its a sad tale but its true all the same, RDR2 is the first WOAH BIG RELEASE that i've played for like 5 years, and while it was cool and all and i loved it i do agree with alot of the criticisms and its clearly not perfect
and rockstar have went completely autistic with the online

>Spartans sacrifice themselves for some Smug AI they dont know anything about

>i didnt get it
>ok
>ONLY RETARDS UNDERSTAND IT
>ok
>HAHAHA I KNEW IT, YOU'RE A RETARD!

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>3 posts
>defend like your life depends on it
not only that but 2 of the 3 posts was asking user why he keeps changing subject
and now im replying to someone explaining all that, and still not talking about video games
reach is perfectly fine, a cool 7/10
relax when talking about video games please

BXR

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Anons help me here. I'm an original xbot who never got a 360 and went full pcfag instead. I loved halo CE and 2, read all the books leading up to contact harvest. Reach always seemed super cool because it was based on a sweet book, and reach coming out on pc after all these years has made me excited. Is my hype misplaced? As a casual lorefag will I find something to like about reach? Don't give a shit about online for reach, I'll be playing 2's online.

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But Noble Team didn't become aware of Cortana's role and importance until later in the story. At first they were executing Winter Contingency, and trying to drive the Covenant out of Reach, before finding they were in over their heads. Once it seemed like a lost battle to save the planet, they diverted to saving that which would give humanity an upper hand in other ways.

Besides, these were Spartan IIIs. Even though they were assembled into a special team, their role as sacrificial lambs still remained in place, and they acted accordingly

Only gays and trannies like Reach, I thought you got that.

Yes, just get Halo 1, 2, and 3, on PC, decide if you want Halo 4 or not.

"Tell them to make it count"
Mfw the following scenes made the hurt worse

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Reach shits all over the book so it depends.

The only people who dislike Reach are literal furries.

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They're the ones that like it along with gays and trannies.

Weapon bloom was already in the previous games just now the reticle showed you the bloom. Zoomers man. Bet you didn't even play 1 and 2.

Yiff in hell furfag

>implying sprint and armor abilities aren't the same

Armor Abilities were fine as a concept, it's just the balancing was fucked. Sprint was actually pretty low tier, Armor Lock on non-vehicle maps and Active Camo sniping were game-breaking though.

holy shit this is bait right

Reach was the most atmospheric Halo game.

In Chief Halo's you're basically Doomguy fighting aliens, you always feel invincible and super badass, and everyone holds your hand along the way

Reach gave a proper air of hopelessness, You can't be the saviour of the galaxy, you're not a plot armoured super dooper trooper with muh foreunner DNA, you're just a stronger footsoldier, same with ODST

But I hate furfags and Xenophiles stop trying to change the subject that you gays and your transexual buddies along with the furfag freaks are the only ones that like this piece of shit while normal non-mentally ill people don't.

Reach is nothing like the book but it does have a goodish story with noble team having some really good moments like with Jorge and Carter. But at the same time I cannot think of any standout story missions besides the space ship shooter (which was a what the fuck were they thinking type of thing) ,the Covenant warship, the city where you can drive a pelican and a phantom, and objective survive.

>In Chief Halo's you're basically Doomguy fighting aliens, you always feel invincible and super badass, and everyone holds your hand along the way
That's why they're good and Reach is not.

Clean yourself up, man. Take out the cat tail buttplug and accept that Reach was a fantastic game. Rejoin society, you fucking degenerate.

But that's the thing, in Reach you don't about what happens next cause you know they all die, if we learned something interesting story-wise along the way fine, but Bungie just retconned the MC/Cortana/PoA story with a shittier one.

>get Reach at the same time as a bunch of friends
>half of them get banned/profiles reset for network exploitation (you yanked the ethernet out mid-Firefight and you could get the same commendation over and over or something like that)
>not enough of us left to do custom games

Goddammit.

I think I'm in love with Kat lads

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>Okay but what does having S-IIIs add to the story. Why couldn't they have been S-IIs when gameplay wise they act the exact same as CE Chief
variety and a different angle to fighting the Covenant, even if just from a lore standpoint
>Why have Jorge be the only S-II and the only one invested in Reach's survival
Jorge was especially invested in Reach's survival because all Spartan IIs underwent their initial training there
>The rest are just there because "we gotta protect the UNSC" and because of that are stuck as some boring ass archetypes
Soldiers are tasked with protecting stuff nigga, and these are Spartan IIIs which means they're all drugged up, traumatized orphans in power suits. Not much space for flamboyant personality there
>Why does Jorge seem so familiar with Halsey
Am I meant to know why? Or is this just for the fans?
Halsey personally picked every single Spartan II recruit, and oversaw their progress from childhood to adulthood. This is why Jorge calls her mother

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>a game that covers the incident that led humanity to discover Installation 04 is barebones
Yikes!

CHIEF GOOD REST BAD ODST NOT REAL HALO MY HIGHEST CAMPAIGN COMPLETION IS HEROIC WEEWOOWEEWOO

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I think you clean yourself up if you didn't already chop off your dick.

ODST is the easiest game, though.

>armour lock is game breaking
t. shit at video games
picking armour lock is a garaunteed loss, and using it garauntees that you die
the ONLY time it is ever useful is if someone is just lobbing grenades in your spot, but even then if you start armour locking they just go "oh", walk in, wait for it to end and then headshot you
"game breaking"

Yiff in hell furfag

This

Yiff in hell.

She, by far, had the dumbest death.

>military team sacrifices themselves for something they don't know much about but are ordered to

ok

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>but Bungie just retconned the MC/Cortana/PoA story with a shittier one.
what did you mean by this?

>shit up a thread by calling people trannies at all cost
>upset when people point and laugh
yiff in hell autist

Armor Lock is a free couple of seconds for my teammates to respond and start shooting your dumb ass for staring at me while I'm not doing anything. If you respond to my teammates, I'll just pop out at any time and give you a back whack.
The people who get the most elitist about defending armor lock have never once in their lives played against someone with a brain.

Go back to resetera.

>asshurt trannies
The ones that call someone a furfag are usually the furfag so, yiff in hell, trannies, faggots, and furfags all go there together, you're all mentally ill and deserve each other.

Jetpack will always be the best ability. Verticality on demand is OP as fuck.

t. Anally annihilated deluded furfag

Go play SWAT as an Elite like your kind always does.

>upset
Nah, I'm laughing making fun of you, the only ones upset are you faggots/furfags/trannies, I dislike Halo 2 because the Arbiter ruined the campaign so can you really call me a furfag? I just connected the dots when a Reachfag call me an incel. You guys do this with Sony as well. Can you stop and see a doctor, a real doctor for your mental health, please?

this, jetpack and evade and pretty much anything else is much more versatile
>my teammates will save me!
t. never played halo in peak population when 9/10 times the scoreboard is:
ME: 38
TM1: 6
TM2: 3
TM3: 3
this trend continues WELL into general ranks etc
maybe you and YOUR BUDDIES have a good armour lock system, but we're talking about normal gameplay

Was always wondering how that made sense. Supposedly it was (a powering the emergency radio with her suit generator since New Alexandria was blacked out, or (b the glassing emitted high radiation discharging an EMP knocking out everyone's shields.
Still always felt like a cheap shock though

>he doesn't have friends
>he thinks team-based strategies aren't applicable in team games
And you're calling me shit?

But I hate playing as an alien. Halo CE and 3 are my favorite because I play Master Chief for the entire game. I have a hard time gauging what I put above which when it comes to Halo 2 and 4 because Arbiter's parts were shit and Chief's parts were awesome so Chief's parts is why I usually put Halo 2 above Halo 4 for the campaign.

BIG
FIRM
SPARTAN
ASS

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In the book that came out alongside Halo:CE, the battle of Reach was covered already and it was much better/made more sense. The MC and Cortana already knew each and the PoA was in combat not fucking dry-docked on the surface.

This

I know, such a tragic waste. I wonder how it would feel if she jacked you off with her robo arm

>talking about the way a game plays
>>lol why pay attention to the average? thats not what WE did!
imagine being autistic

dear god i hope some more porn of spartans get made because of MCC being on PC

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Yeah I see where you're coming from. The Fall of Reach (the novel you mentioned) gives a much more gritty depiction of the events, and adding this autistic "half-Cortana" narrative, where she needed some S-IIIs to deliver the other half to the PoA is really dumb. I don't know why Bungie didn't just make the game follow, and perhaps expand on, the events of the novel.

>let's judge how a game plays from casual matchmaking where i beat up children from down the street
Imagine being bad.

Biggest thing I'm hoping for too. Yeah it exists, but a lot more SFM porn makers are PC-only.

>let's judge how a game plays from matchmaking
yeah? thats what we were doing aspie

>the ONLY time it is ever useful is if someone is just lobbing grenades in your spot

As said, it was a free few seconds of staying alive.

Other than that, AL flashing was the most goddam cancerous aspect of it because it made melee attacking anyone with AL a potentially bad idea. They could lock up when you go in for the kill, pop your shield with the EMP coming out (because it froze anyone who hit you in place for some retarded reason), then pummel you after.

>let's expect every player is timmy from across the street
>everybody is like me and has no friends

>armour lock is OP and a game winner
>actually 99% of people who use it are autistic children and its easy as fuck to counter in all situations
>yeah? so?

>>actually 99% of people who use it are autistic children and its easy as fuck to counter in all situations
Yeah, so? Who cares what retards do? Timmy can pick up the sniper and waste every single bullet. Does that mean it's not an effective weapon?

99% is a lot user

And they're irrelevant when they don't even know how to use both sticks at the same time.

>he thinks almost ALL reach players are 6 year old braindeads
no no thats not how percentages work. 99% includes all the 6 year olds AND mostly everyone else. even if me and you could both prove that we're in the 1%, we do still have to consider the people in the 99% that DONT have the excuse of being autistic

>thats not how percentages work.
Made-up percentages are just as irrelevant as the people who don't know how to abuse the game's mechanics.

>agree with the premise
>2 posts later
>"well that premise is dumb!"
fuck off

"99%" is fine as an exaggeration, but you were taking it as a literal statistic in the next post.
You're still wrong for judging the game based on people who don't know how to play it.

>I am truth! The voice of the covenant!
>And so,, you must be silenced.

>Thought I'd try shooting my way out.

>This is UNSC AI Serial Number CTN 0452-9. I am a monument to all your sins.

>I am a timeless chorus; join your voice with mine, and sing victory everlasting!

>Wake me when you need me.

Halo 3 has some great lines.

>but you were taking it as a literal statistic in the next post.
not really, even if it was 50% i could have said "all the 6 year old autistics are in the 50%, but the 50% also includes others who are regular players"
are you sure you just didnt want to have the discussion? im not forcing you to reply and i even gave you the benefit of the doubt that you and your pals WERE actually epic and had this epic armour lock manouvere that is reliable

Answer this: Is the Sniper a shit weapon if 50% of the players miss all of their shots with it?

depends why theyre missing faggot, the sniper itself is not to blame
whereas armour lock is QUITE LITERALLY useless in almost every combat situation
and even in situations where its USEFUL, its not a deal sealer and you're probably just as fucked as you were if there is no other intervention (aka my 3 pals respond to me screaming HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP while i hold X)

It had the best Elite feet

>we

It was the first step to the utter ruining of the Halo formula. Armor Abilities upset the balance of the game mechanics and the flow of the gameplay.
>you're just mad cause you're shit bro
>like just adapt bro
Oh, guess that makes Halo 4 a good game then. I mean you can just adapt to the cancer that is killstreaks and loadouts right? I mean you could only hate those additions if you suck at the game right? Nothing to do with the principle of it all.

This logic is how I know Reachfags started the series with Reach. If you like the game fine, but remember that it is the stepping stone to 4, and don't be mad at us for disliking it.

because this piece of trash ruined Halo forever

Started with CE. People were literally bitching to this degree about dual-wielding, vehicle destruction when the driver is usually killed, and the removal of health.

Oh and aim/bullet magnetism, melee lunging, the Battle Rifle existing etc. "It ruined Halo!" They'd shout.

>playing Halo competitively
Might as well play COD you big fag

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>depends why theyre missing faggot
No, it doesn't.
>my 3 pals respond to me screaming HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP while i hold X
How is that not useful? I can pop out at literally any time I want when you get distracted by the 2-3 other people engaging you.

And Halo 3 had everyone bitching about equipment. Every game makes changes that people feel are detrimental. The difference with shit like dual wielding or equipment is that they are still map pickups. They don't ruin the even starts tenet.
Armor abilities took it too far and started moving the series more toward loadouts. That's my beef with Reach. If the game didn't have them I would still be annoyed with other changes like the heavy inertia and way the vehicles function, but I wouldn't be mad about them violating the even starts tenet that Halo is founded on. That's what separates armor abilities from the other shit.

There's more to Halo than even starts.

Cortana was supposed to be already on Pillar of Autumn when main covenant invasion fleet arrived. With her help PoA took on 5-6 covenant vessels solo including advanced super ship. Plus entire game make it seem like unsc is losing terribly and absolutely helpless while it was most vicious battle of entire war. Not even mention that planet teeming with defense platforms, scanners, radars, giant defence fleet couldnt detect 30km long vessel with escorts dropping troops and setting up base right under their noses

Armor abilities should have been exclusively map pickups.

Also it should have been more obvious what the person has equipped. There's no way of knowing until they pop it.

I just re-read the book and I think the game story would have benefited from following it. You still could have had the same survive at the end with the spartans on the ground before it got glassed. I think it really emphasized how smacked the spartans got at reach, and how the covenant just won every space battle.

Armor abilities that didn't recharge and spawned on the maps would have been great. El Dewrito did this well.

Of course, but even starts and map control is the bedrock of the gameplay. Whichever game of the trilogy you prefer, they all have that foundation in common.

haha yeah bro who needs even starts let's go play Halo 4, gotta get my killstreak on so I can unlock the carbine and extra shield perk for my loadout

Wtf are you guys talking about by Halo 4 relying on books? I played through it and I don’t remember being confused by any plot points. How fucking dense do you have to be to get confused by a video game narrative.

I've never played it so I'm really looking forward to it.

I always admired the people with the patience to make some of the cool shit i saw in H3.

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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Armor Lock OP Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From Him Like Nigga Lob Some Nades Haha

Agreed. I didn't miss Halo 3 equipment at all I was just mad that armor abilities were standard starts in most game modes. They should have been map pick up/single use in standard MP games, map-pick up/infinite use in campaign, and loadout/infinite use in Firefight and Invasion. If they had done that and kept the overshield and active camo powerups Reach would have been fine.

It's not OP, it's just annoying.

4U

>Always feels bad for the cop that dies against drones in ODST
>The fucker can survive and actually fucking betrays you.
Fucking pig.

How is driving with a keyboard supposed to be good and fun? I don't want to shell out cash for a shitty gamepad that'll wear out after a year of use.

keyboard driving is ok and definitely do-able up to standard with controller, but of course its easier with controller and anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar
keyboard does have an advantage though, you can FLICK so easy compared to R3 on a controller, so tight turns and drifts (the warthogs wheelhouse) are improved. but obviously its less comfy

It didn't have a single multiplayer map that was good

longsword (air tunnels in the middle, 2 go indoors one goes outdoors)(sword on overhead bridge with 2 air lifts either side) was OK but very easy to get camp kills

XDDDD ITS A BANE REFERENCE JJAJAJA OMG!!! I UNDERSTOOD IT!!! JAJAJA XD 4UUUUUU!!!! OMG HAHA!!!

nigga did you ever play any of the games on pc (1, 2, ED) ?
you drive with the mouse. you steer with the mouse. you brake and accelerate with the keyboard.
it feels just fine.

Driving is piss easy in Halo because direction is controlled by the mouse.

My cock has been rock hard for days thinking about the DMR

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>ywn stick your dick inside of a DMR

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The game was 10/10
Fucking fags whining about a masterchef game with no masterchef
Sorry that hundreds on millions of people died to give him opportunitys all over the galaxy to be the hero
>kat deserved it tho

I hate when people think Jorge called Halsey mum. He said ma'am with an accent. Why would a supersoldier with military discipline drilled into his very being call someone mommy in the middle of a briefing?

>haha lol who cares about turning on shields

>seeing who could last the longest on the final campaign mission
I feel this.

why even live?

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>announced 2 weeks ago
>said it was "coming sooner than everyone expects"
>hasn't even started beta yet

>me and 3 friends play last mission (again)
>this time we all agree to go our seperate ways and just try to survive
>15/20 minutes later
>just me and 1 friend left
>literally have no fucking idea what is happening and just looking for any weapon i can get
>suddenly both myself and the friend rush for the sniper/bubble-shield
>both holding B
>i grab the sniper and kill 2 high tier elites that were chasing me
>he grabs the shield and deploys it
>we both stand back to back on the battlefield
was literally aesthetic as fuck, and it was only ruined because less than 5 seconds after the shield expired there was about 20 plasma grenades in the air

>>hasn't even started beta yet
im sick of fucking betas, every game that has had a beta has turned out to be complete shit
i dont know why releasing a barely playable beta 3 months before release (too soon to fix anything) is the new trend
and im fucking sick of betas on Yea Forums too huehuehue

>obsessed with trannies
>can't understand Reach
imagine my shock

ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK ARMOR LOCK

Reach has no plot, that's why it's hard to understand what Bungie wanted me to see in the piece of shit. The true reason is Bungie can't write worth shit.

Genetically superior booty

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Throw a plasma nerd, sprint has always been meta.

>spartans cant spawn with evade
literally biggest crime of 2012, forced to use sprint

Evade was a straight upgrade.

>Reach has no plot
>get these covnigger off our planet
>wait 2strong4u nevermind
>glass our tech before they can get to it
>oh also take this last hope of humanity to Pillar of Autumn
It's literally a direct prequel to Halo CE. It shows the shit that happened before captain king wakes up and the spartans who died for him/cortana you dumb faggot

Are you in favor or against armor lock?
What you described seems pretty cool.
I love it when teams use strategy instead of just rushing in.

I don't hate Reach.

It's just that Halo 2 and 3 are way better.

No, it's a retcon shoved into a story it doesn't belong, it doesn't even feel like it fits with Halo 1, 2, and 3. It's just shoved right in there, another Metroid Other M.

>Didn't play ranked games in Halo 3 where rank meant something

Against. All of the armor abilities ruined how the game played, except for Jetpack as a pickup on certain maps.

and every single one of them better than any map from Reach

how did that happen?

Remember, the enemy base is down.

I enjoyed Reach by reading about the lore and playing the campaign as realistically as possible, and concocting scenarios in my head while playing Forge all by myself

>it has no plot
>no it's a retcon
>it doesn't even feel like it fits with Halo 1, 2, and 3
reals before feels nigger

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You know we can all read the thread right? We all saw you say earlier that you didn't understand the plot at all and then went nuclear:

I don't even care if I get selected for beta, I just want them to start it so I get some hope that it is coming soon.

>person obsessed with trannies is a retard
wow what a tweeest

But what is he doing in a halo thread

get out of here tarzandan

>Bungie hypes up the return of the pistol in Halo 3
>It's fucking trash

Fuck those frauds.

Reach has no plot, trannies. I'm in Halo thread to talk about Halo games, Reach isn't much of a Halo game doesn't even have Halo in the title, just the box art.

its funny cause someone posted their filters in a thread last night and i saw "tranny" on there and i was thinking
"who would flat out filtering the word tranny ever be neccesary"
but im wondering if he was ever in a thread with you at some point

and that's the problem I have, every single map has at least 1 prominent flaw that can be exploited to significant advantage. That's not even taking into account how poorly they're all balanced around the armor abilities

>reach has no plot
>reach is a retcon
Which one is it? The above two are mutually exclusive, you can't retcon the plot of Halo (or a portion thereof) if there's nothing to replace the current plot.

>Reach rank 45
>Win 3 matches in a row, no increase
>Lose 1
>Rank 44
What the everloving fuck?

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>tfw closeted tranny lover getting BTFO'd with facts and logic epic style

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>He is unironically autistic
Hahahaha

Halo 3 has the most boring multiplayer because there are no overpowered weapons to abuse and the maps are largely garbage. Whoever thought that you should start with an AR on Valhalla needs to be lynched.

I wouldn't be calling out for what you are if you didn't call me an "incel" in the last thread, you outed yourself as a resetera cuck. resetera loves Reach, so it makes sense, Reach fans also have a problem of losing it when someone talks about Reach's negative aspects like a Sony fan, it's clear that the Reach fans are gay/transsexual Sony fans from resetera and tumblr, I put Halo 2 babbies that consider Halo 2's campaign the best in the same league as you guys because they're furfags that love to post their gay ass disgusting alien porn everywhere. Every last one of you needs to be gassed.

Both, you could tell this shit was a prottoype to Destiny.

>valhalla AR starts existed in the ranked 4v4 playlists

>i have been browsing Yea Forums since 2017 and i think i know how all the secret workings are
i've been here since 2008 and i have no fucking clue what you just said in this post
and if you're just pretending, thats SOOO 2014

Give me the beta RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

YOU LET NEOGAF TAKE OVER THIS SHITHOLE, WHAT'S NOT TO UNDERSTAND?! You let these take you over and now they're hiding in every fucking thread! we can't even have a Halo thread now unless it's
>Halo 2 has the best campaign
>ODST an Reach are the best Halo games
God damn, kill your fucking selves, oh wait, you're already doing that.

You say this like a shit load of Spartans didn’t die for less of a reason

It was spelled out for you that Reach can either only be a game with "no plot" or a game that is a "retcon," because a game with "no plot" cannot retcon the plot of a previous game if it has no plot of its own to replace the old one with.

>he doesn't enjoy big tranny cock

my nigga a retcon is a new entry in the plot that contradicts/overwrites a previous instance, that itself already assumes that Reach has plot

If Reach is canon, nothing else is.

Let me correct my self, it had no plot until it shoved Cortana and Keyes in the plot.

>he is not pretending
halo 2 was the best campaign btw
arbiter > chief

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*myself

Shut up, furfag

furfaggot

>it has no plot until it had a plot
So... Reach had a plot? That you just didn't understand.

you have very low IQ

just tell me you're an ESL (English Second Language) shitter and not a native speaker. Nobody is this retarded.

>If Reach is canon, nothing else is
but it leads right to CE's intro cutscene?

Actual mental illness.

Halo Reach is literally the best halo game.

It had no plot until it started retconning shit to exist, game should have ever been made, Bungie's final Halo game shouldn't have been Halo 3 and Don Mattrick should have got hit by a truck for forcing this garbage to be made in the first place instead of just letting us wait 5 fucking years.

obsessed

>It had no plot until
>until
Ah so it does have plot, thank you

The entire game is literally shooting Covenant because you need something to shoot until Halsey calls your ass to her lab to get Cortana and then it becomes we need to connect this shit to Halo 1 somehow. Bungie's retarded asses couldn't even get the location of Alpha Halo right, it's supposed to be near the galactic center not outside the fucking galaxy like the Ark. Just how phoned in is Reach?

>It had no plot until it started retconning shit to exist
>it had no plot until it had a plot
Also, as a prequel, it was meant to explain how things came to be.

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A shit one for two levels

>The entire game is literally shooting Covenant because you need something to shoot until
welcome to the first 2/3 missions of every halo game faggot

Halo 2 campaign threads, Halo 3: ODST threads, and Halo: Reach threads needs to be banned on site.

Bullet spread isn't bloom. Bloom simulates recoil. People who defend Reach are zoomers.

Duude who cares, just shoot the fucking covenant and have some fun.
You halo lorefags are such aids, read real scifi.

Halo 1-3 had a plot though from beginning to end.

>threads about video games should be banned
>Yea Forums - Video games

>LALALALA YOU'RE A TRANNY YOU'RE A TRANNY FUCK TODD HOWARD
>I am the king of Yea Forums

you are quite literally not welcome here faggot

>The entire game is literally shooting Covenant because you need something to shoot
Um ackshully the game started with you investigating in what UNSC believed to have been an innie attack at some outpost. Then it became apparent that it was the covenant. You weren't looking for something to shoot. You quite literally were only looking for why the civilian outpost blacked out, then the marines that didn't check in after they checked out the outpost.
For a guy obsessed with (his understanding of) a plot (and also trannies) you seem to have failed to grasp the plot of Reach.

You can reduce any Halo game to retardation if you're going to be like this you dummy. I could also say that literally every Chief-centered game is just "fight easy enemies until a big threat that no one can deal with pops up and Chief is the only epic forerunner DNA demigod who can stop it"

A shit plot is still a plot, so Reach does, contrary to what you said, have a plot

Reach isn't fun though.

>opinion

>Halo 1
>you literally just had to shoot aliens until Halsey calls you to kill him because he got FLOODed
>Halo 2
>you literally just had to shoot aliens until Hood calls you to defend Earth's orbit
>Halo 3
>you literally just had to shoot aliens until the lightbulb calls you to activate the rang
Retard

You want to be a bitch? Okay, its more fun than 3.

mfw autists start denying that Reach has plot, only to then move the goalposts to conveniently cast value judgements on the very plot they were previously denying even existed

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Reach retconned so much that we knew about the universe that it might as well have been a spin-off. The more I look at it the more it felt like a "test" for Destiny.

i dont browse many halo threads but i played the fuck out of the game, and of the 2-3 threads i've seen i've only ever seen "anti-reach"fags. NEVER seen anyone try and tout reach as the best entry or anything like that, only a bunch of angry fuckers that reach exists at all
is it autism in its purest form? i mean look at this
he's wrote this sentence like 10 times THIS THREAD

I just got here, if so many people are saying the same thing then maybe it's true.

>Um ackshully the game started with you investigating in what UNSC believed to have been an innie attack at some outpost
And that was already stupid because they found plasma burns, they have known it was Covenant from the start. Just admit that Bungie couldn't write worth shit, they try to make the Covenant's return a surprise but they completely failed at it, only a shill would defend that shitty first level in Reach.

>You can reduce any Halo game to retardation if you're going to be like this you dummy. I could also say that literally every Chief-centered game is just "fight easy enemies until a big threat that no one can deal with pops up and Chief is the only epic forerunner DNA demigod who can stop it"
That's what makes the games good though.

Before coming to Yea Forums I never would have guess reach triggers the autists this much. Cause honestly when you look at these threads they make it sound like Reach was far worse than anything 343 done. Or at the very least they get WAY more mad about Reach than 343

Lorefags are not allowed to comment about the multiplayer and how it should be balanced.

>Halsey
>in Halo 1
>Hood
>in any level after the Earth levels and ending
>Guilty Spark
>telling anyone what to do in Halo 3
Did you even play Halo 1-3?

bait

This but these retards will tell you otherwise, god, I hate CODkids

>Literally "it's fine when Halo 1/2/3 do it"

Considering Halo 4 and Halo 5 only exist to make fun of 343, it makes sense that Reach gets so much shit for being the worst Halo game.

THIS
halo 4 is complete dogshit and 5's mutliplayer is pretty decent but not really halo-esque
if there was autistic outcry over these games i'd atleast understand
reach was just some spin-off sort of fuck around title

post yfw video games are FUN

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Reach did so much damage to Halo that anything 343 did is negligible in comparison. If Halo 3 was Bungie's final Halo game, all my hatred would be geared towards 343 for Halo 4 and not Bungie for Reach.

Reach was almost just as bad as both Halo 4 and 5. Both the 343 retards and the Reach retards aren't Halo fans. The only difference between the two is that the Reach fags are a little bit older.

Multiplayer is what killed video games.

>And that was already stupid because they found plasma burns
>ruling out innies developing/stealing plasma weaponry before activating Winter Contingency is stupid
It's not that Bungie "couldn't write worth shit," it's just that you are low IQ and couldn't grasp writing meant to be understood by dudebros. Not saying that Bungie's writing is the best, I'm only saying that you're stupid.
>That's what makes the games good though.
So pewpew bang bang is only good if it's any other game that's not Reach

>Reach did so much damage to Halo that anything 343 did is negligible in comparison.
>Reach is worst than an ancient evil awakens
>Reach is worst than finish the fight, then start a new fight
>Reach is worst than Spartan IV
>Reach is worst than Palmer
>Reach is worst than Evangelion-tier armors
>Reach is worst than Space Humans

It's schizo-tier
>That's what makes the games good though.
If you simplify every game's plot, you get the same basic narrative progression. Quite literally. Opening sequence -> Dialogue -> First contact with enemy -> Partial victory -> Odds start getting stacked against the protagonist -> Overwhelming enemy presence -> Fluke victory, shit blows up. What makes Reach different? The only thing that changed is that Noble Team didn't have a Forerunner deity guiding their decisions because of some ancient recessive gene, and that they all died

Dont pit the lorefags on us, we campaignfags dont want them either.

Man, I have never seen anyone missunderstand something as basic as a halo story. Congrats on being this retarded.

This, Reach was the beginning of the end, and the fact that it was made by Bungie makes it that much worse. It was a love letter to the fans, but ultimately it felt unsatisfying.

>Soldiers who have been indoctrinated from childhood to follow orders even if it costs them their own lives follow orders that cost their own lives
And they still had longer lives than most Spartan-IIIs

Because it played like shit on launch, capped your exp gain so everyone could catch up, was super unbalanced at the time and bloom was a retarded idea. It changed too much.

OH HOLY SHIT THE XP CAP. I forgot about that, why the FUCK did they do that?

>he couldn't adapt

you're not a real Halo player

>REEEEEEE IT RETCONNED A PIECE OF SHLOCK 99% OF THE COMMUNITY NEVER EVEN READ (Because video game books are always shit) REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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That's fucking delusional.

How do you adapt to a lower quality game? Ignore the inconsistencies and speedbumps like the rest of the Reachfags?

>Because video game books are always shit
have you any of the books?

You couldn't play true Halo. That's why you like Halo 5, because you have crutches, armor abilities, and powerful automatics. You sucked at Halo.

He's a troglodyte who hasn't even played the games

>Ignore the inconsistencies and speedbumps
>marketing jargon
complain about the game all you want but atleast actually say something faggot

>it's not Bungie's fault I swear, i-i-it's just you

>Reach is worst than an ancient evil awakens
Yes
>Reach is worst than finish the fight, then start a new fight
Yes
>Reach is worst than Spartan IV
Shoving Spartan IIIs in the game gave 343 the idea to make a Spartan IV class so yes
>Reach is worst than Palmer
Noble Team besides Jorge sucked so they're not much better
>Reach is worst than Evangelion-tier armors
Both Halo 4/5 and Reach (I want to be gritty and realistic) art styles were shit.
>Reach is worst than Space Humans
Very

This, the defending of Bungie and shitting on 343 is the reason the series ended up where it's at. you guys should have been shitting on Reach, 4, and 5, showing 343 that we hate what they and Bungie did to the series, you guys sucking Reach's dick just made you look like a bunch of Bungie fanboys and 343 feels they need to lock you in MCC so you can just play all of Bungie's Halo and fuck off from there's. You guys could have fixed this by showing 343 we wanted a Halo game like Halo 1-3 instead of loving Reach because it was made by Bungie, picking favorites.

Ok retard, nice response.

reach art style was worse than halo 3 but it wasnt shit, and the customisation was and STILL IS the best armour customisation
you sound upset

Sounds about right

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>This, the defending of Bungie and shitting on 343 is the reason the series ended up where it's at.
Either actually and unironically low-IQ or paid (>paid) 343 shill.
Or both

>You guys could have fixed this by showing 343 we wanted a Halo game like Halo 1-3 instead of loving Reach because it was made by Bungie, picking favorites.
DING DING DING, the blatant fanboyism surrounding the undeserving Reach made 343 think we liked Reach more that the original trilogy, so they kept running with their "artistic" rendition of the Halo universe.

Enjoy Halo Infinite having Sprint for the fourth time because your needless Bungie shilling, you stupid bastard.

>imagine being this much of a samefag
>DING DING DING, the blatant fanboyism surrounding the undeserving Reach made 343 think we liked Reach more that the original trilogy, so they kept running with their "artistic" rendition of the Halo universe.
So let me get this straight, 343 thought people liked the Reach art style, and that made 343 continue their own "artistic rendition" which is very far from Reach's?
Do you read what you type before you click Post or do you just do whatever?

>how dare you have fun in a video game!
>YOU ruined the rest of the series!

>he literally doesnt remember "we want the COD audience", an actual statement by 343

i like it

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I liked it besides the retcon of Cortana’s backstory

>he's mad at sprint because he gets smacked to death by shitters who can't aim
Adapt or die nigger

>Enjoy Halo Infinite
why would i when halo 3 and reach are coming to PC

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>started moving the series more toward loadouts
you know there was playlists without armor abilities you know

I wasn't talking about the artstyle, I was talking about the narrative direction.
>we want the COD audience
You know who said that right? It was the same person who came up with much of the bullshit for Reach.

>people constantly bitch about armor lock when back in Reach's hayday there were multiple playlists that didn't have it
lol

If there's anything you should be bitching about it should be about how 343 axed a lot of the playlists and took a huge shit on the balancing. Speaking of which, Reach on MCC WILL use the TU, mark my words.

What's wrong with rats nest

>You know who said that right? It was the same person who came up with much of the bullshit for Reach.
so again, not the players fault then like you're so instistent on

shes farting isnt she? i want to smell it

>plastic action figure man

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Nobody liked that entire map pack

All of them. However I don't read toilet paper with fanfiction written on it.

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You know what is the player's fault? Buying an Xbox One for Halo 5.

Players who were good at CE, 2, and 3 could easily dominate in Halo 4 or Halo 5. Zoomers and COD players (fake Halo fans) who started at Reach or later can't play CE, 2, or 3. Bad Halo players who can't compete stay on Halo 5. You can all sprint around your clusterfuck maps together like homosexuals with your "hidden" population counter.

*makes puritans seethe*

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But Halo 3 had the best map in the entire series.

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lol

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>huh i guess he's right
>guess i'll just fucking say whatever and hit send LMAOOOO
as i said earlier, you really arent welcome here, this is Yea Forums - Video Games

That's actually a very balanced kill spread compared to most maps.

How can you get so butthurt about such an obviously true statement? Let me guess, your nigger tier IQ bought into the MCC AND Halo 5, hook line and sinker?

Epitaph was the best close quarters map but Guardian is a close second

Have sex

What a stupid post. Everybody agrees that Xbox shit, but we buy it anyway just for Halo.

>i know i moved the goalposts and started talking about something completely different, but its TRUE!
>GOD, some people are so touchy!
is this literally your first time posting here or something

This

>Adapt
>this is why Halo is where it's at today
Fuck you

That's why, MCC is coming to PC and eventually getting mods so you guys can fuck off of mainline Halo games and make your own Halo games. They are literally shoving you away from modern Halo games because they're tired of dealing with you.

You guys need to dial back you zoomerness. Most people here probably didn't buy an Xbox One. Yea Forums is PC

No refutation. I accept your concession. It's ironic how bad Halo players who talk about "evolution" and "progress" use leftist talking points. Leftist mindsets.

Daily reminder that by the time Reach came out, everyone was in a private voice cht room and there was no one willing to use the voice comms in game. This is why Reach was hated because in Halo 3, everyone used the voice comms while in Reach everyone stayed in their private chat.

>hehe another debate won
I ain't him chief, calm down

I hate that every slayer map is some forge piece of shit instead of a real map

Guy comes into melee range. Time armor lock with a quick snap. He gets empd and you melee his face. Seems pretty broken and useful to me. Oh and before patch it would throw the sticky grenade off of u if you has been stuck

please read the second post you replied to, it didnt make any statements about the state of Yea Forums or what consoles they use or anything like that, just asking some autist why he is shitposting and moving goalposts every time he gets BTFO
also while Yea Forums is definitely PC, there is an increasing amount of underage nintendo posters

source?

Your failure to even attempt to engage me in a conversation probably lead to your butthurt, sorry I don't hold hands when I'm on the internet.

Have sex

are you literally replying to the wrong posts or what

Reach has the best presentation, the worst (Bungie) story and an overall alright campaign

>You know who said that right? It was the same person who came up with much of the bullshit for Reach
Don't tell them that, Bungie are gods to them.
>hires non-binary employees

>vastly improve forge
>expand custom game options
>custom games were dead as fuck in comparison to H3 because the armor unlock system was tied to progression

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its been 7 years, how can Halo: Reach still bring 16 year olds to tears?
thank you Yea Forums

So you have no argument against his or my post, I know we're right?

Reach:
>No competitive ranks
>Bloom
>Armor abilities
>Poor map selection
>Far fewer maps
>Removed many custom games option, especially community made ones
>Removed many playlists
>Retconned nearly all lore for the subject matter
>2/3 of the gametypes didn't work
Any more?

Jetpack was worse than armor lock.
Punished good map control.
"Oh hey I see you managed to place yourself at an advantageous position by executing good map control. Let me nullify that with one button."

I'm merely engaging you at your own level. You're welcome.
PS Have intercourse

Where did Joseph Staten go after 3? Would it not have made more sense to contact him or Nyuland before even thinking about making a prequel

You play Halo 5. You're a zoomer and you're talking about sex when you're still a virgin. Your argument is invalid.

this, as soon as you hear the jetpack sound its like "alright time for free kill" and you just headshot the fucker

>slow gameplay and low jump height
>no bleedthrough
>can block swords with melee
>overpowered grenades
>can't carry 4 grenades when you only have two types
>cock teases like the Scarab and Super Carrier but you never go inside the Super Carrier or fight a Scarab in the game
>no massive battles except the ones in the background
>and so much more

Bungie was completely lost after Halo 3. They even considered making a TellTale choose your own adventure game starring spartans that would be heavily "cinematic"

This

Bungie didn't want him writing Reach for some reason.

>You play Halo 5. You're a zoomer and you're talking about sex when you're still a virgin.
not him, you cannot prove any of this, just like all the other shit you've been saying all thread

Jesus Christ, why do people defend post-Halo 3 Bungie?

>sniper knocks your reticle around
>default settings have no flag juggling

Re-Re-Reach is the best guys.....

Because Microsoft convinced both Bungie and by extension the fans that Halo "wasn't over" even though Halo 3 killed all the enemies.

thanks for the assumption, but I didn't touch that garbage.
Have sex

He left then came back for ODST, right? I don't know why he'd leave a second time.

CAN BLOCK SWORDS WITH MELEE
I really like reach, but who thought this was a good idea? Fuck any of you if you defend this

He left again to work on Destiny then came back to Microsoft and wrote a comic book for them.

It sounds like Metroid before Sakamoto realized all those directions would be a mistake since originally Metroid was going to become an action game series like DMC and NG after Super Metroid but Sakamoto decided against it.

>t.got outskilled by a no-sworder
Imagine getting shrekt while having an energy sword, then getting said sword looted from you

>do everything right with a sword
>enemy can just make it not work for free

You could immediately melee with a sword after getting the charge blocked killing the person. This is a non-argument

False. You see, "Halo fans" that defend 343's Halos are zoomers, or underage players. They simply don't have enough experience with the series to give their opinion on the subject. They don't understand what makes Halo, Halo. Because Halo 5 requires zero strategy or map awareness, Halo 5 players generally have a low IQ. Halo 5 players need those crutches like sprint or spartan charge to play. They have ADD and they don't like using teamwork. If you were to take those away, the zoomers would leave Halo for good.
Also, because he's underage, he's still a virgin, therefore, telling others to have sex (a leftist talking point) is invalid by default.
TLDR: you and him aren't Halo fans and you both suck at Halo.

I'm married with two kids.

>do everything right with a sword
Literally just wait for a cursor lock and RT
>enemy can just make it not work for free
This actually requires more skill than the above.

WHEN IS IT COMING OUT REEEEEEEEE
SECOND BEST HALO GAME AFTER HALO 3

Then why bother having the block in the first place?
Yes, getting in range is doing everything right with a Sword.

>but I am a Halo fan
>because I love all the things that killed Halo

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Reminder that saying that something is X or Y is a claim, not an argument

>"Halo fans" that defend 343's Halos are zoomers
yes..
>They simply don't have enough experience with the series to give their opinion on the subject
yesss...
>They don't understand what makes Halo, Halo. Because Halo 5 requires zero strategy
Yes.
>Halo 5 players generally have a low IQ
Yes!
>Halo 5 players need those crutches like sprint or spartan charge to play
YES
>They have ADD and they don't like using teamwork.
YES!
>TLDR: you and him aren't Halo fans and you both suck at Halo.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

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>I'm married with two of my wife's kids
Have sex

Read the books you fucking coward

It was an attempt by bungie to add counterplay to the sword

Halo fans don't like sprint, spartan charge, ground pound, etc. Only those who started with Halo at Reach or later enjoy bad game design.

The whole concept of sword blocking with your arm is fucking stupid. Another sword? Yeah totally. But your fucking arm? All because you were too bad that you let the other guy get it?
confirmed shitter

But not the shotgun, which was still a better weapon?

Because you're all faggots, just like, fucking have fun guys.

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a little less foundation a little more action please

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Except that before the game even released Bungie explicitly confirmed that
>Weapon bloom was already in the previous games just now the reticle showed you the bloom

The shotgun had less 1hit range than the sword. Bungie was just trying to prevent shitters from getting completely roflstomped by some dude hiding around a corner for 10 minutes with a sword.

>complains about a move that requires skill to execute
>calls others shitters
Have sex

Exposing yourself and having no range and then getting in range is doing everything right you fucking mongoloid. Sword rewarded positioning. It wasn't a win free weapon.

>Bungie was just trying to prevent shitters from getting completely roflstomped
Like every change they made throughout the entire series.

>All these people saying halo 3 had bad maps
How fucking embarrassing, Halo 3 had literally the best maps of the series
Valhalla
Sandtrap
Rat's Nest
Narrows
Blackout

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Give me full image, user pls

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This

Friendly Reminder
>if you enjoyed Halo 4's story
>if you think Halo 5's multiplayer is the best in the franchise
>if you ask someone to read the forerunner books because they really good
>if you think sprint and enhance mobility have modernized halo's gameplay
>if you disagree that humans=forerunner
then you are a zoomer 343tard and reddit is the place for you
thats the point of my reply, you fucking retard.

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t. born in 1999

Are you that virgin telling others to have sex? Yeah nah you're a cunt.

Funny thing is Reach without the armour abilities is decent as is. Hell it's where everyone moved to in the end. It was a nice idea to spice up gameplay but it just didn't work.

Halo 2 was the most competitive Halo. Halo 3 loosened up to the casuals which is why it's the most popular Halo. They did so without changing the core mechanics. Equipment was bad, but at least you didn't have to deal with it in hardcore.

Samefag

This. Fuck abilities, I just want to fight Spartans in a even playing field, not for some faggot to jetpack out of the fight, or to sprint away from me or one shot me with their fucking charges.

>Halo 2 was the most competitive Halo
>hitscan
>busted weapon spawns
>broken melee lunge
>ruined spawn system
>nerfed powerups
>barely any maps even had powerups anymore
"No."

>Halo 2 was the most competitive Halo
Sorry bud, that's Halo 3. Halo 2 had twice the amount of bullet magnetism Halo 3 had.

Thruster pack in Halo 5 is the most gamebreaking ability. It's worse than sprint or any other ability in Reach.

BR doesn’t have 1/10 the bloom that the DMR has.

Have sex

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Nope

Thrusting away in the middle of a fight is the most pussy move in any video game ever. Fucking god damn it 343

Even earlier than that? Crazy.

Whoah! How did you do that?

>Exposing yourself and having no range and then getting in range is doing everything right you fucking mongoloid.
So you suggest that getting yourself exposed and running straight to an enemy is "doing everything right" and get mad if you get rekt? Instead of using ambush to your advantage?
Ok retard
PS Have Sex

It's just an extension of your strafe, you aren't going to use it to get away from any fights. Evade was worse.

>humans=forerunner
That got disproved in Halo 3's terminals. Forerunners found humans on Earth, which they basically considered a biblical Garden of Eden, and decided to groom them into becoming their successors. 343 still made all their bullshit up though.

>Hardcore
Absolute cancer to pander to tryhard losers

Inspect element is a powerful tool

didn't the fall of reach play out entirely different than the game though? like nothing was the same.

This

Nope. But good replies though, quality posts

By having sex

>inspect element

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the absolute state of halo threads

Halo Reach is a completely standalone game lore wise.

It's a shame, I think the jetpack could have worked really well as an equipment pickup. My issue with H3's equipment is that you don't know what the fuck anyone has until it's too late, that isn't an issue when you've got a giant metal box on your back that serves as an indicator.

>accuse of samefagging
>see image showing otherwise
>roll with your preconceptions anyway
Yeah ok

Sorry, nobody wants to play the game with the broken battle rifle. Making you compensating for lag like that was utterly unnacceptable.

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Equipment's biggest flaw was almost every one was designed to slow down or completely stop a fight.

They gimped the BR because hitscan across the map would be broken as fuck. The Halo 2 BR couldn't shoot 100 yards without the shots disappearing.

halo reach is great what are you talking about

I never said anything about the BR.

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>They gimped the BR because hitscan across the map would be broken as fuck.

It worked perfect in Halo 2.

It looks, plays, and runs like shit.

>Halo 3 fags talking hot shit when
>3 had the worst campaign of the three mainline titles
>The worst multiplayer maps of the three mainline titles
>The worst soundtrack of the three mainline titles
>The worst weapon balance of the three mainline titles
>Introduced equipment which had no tell until someone dropped that shit in your face

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The real interesting part of Fall of Reach is the spartan program aspects, which go much deeper than the games. The books also treat combat much differently, and covenant are more an actual threat so it feels a lot more like a gritty guerilla warfare type of war whereas in the game you always just waltz around. Books are different but from what I remember with Reach specifically was similar to what I remember from the game. Ground orbital defenses were lost and the whole planet got wiped basically. The Pillar of Autumn got off.

There are two (I suspect it's the same guy samefagging) obsessed autists who have been "arguing" ie making value judgements for the past 4 hours

>Visual ghosting issues
>shitty weapons
>chunky characters that are much easier to hit
>gay armour abilities that ruin the classic multiplayer flow and encourage retreating like a bitch
>pointless health bar system that was never good in Halo 1 and was brought back for no reason
>Uninteresting maps
>Forge magic was ruined by the more expansive toolkit and bland looking construction elements that were completely soulless
>Washed out colours
>Lame looking armour
>Couldn't even dethrone Modern Warfare 2 which was already a year old

Overall just a bad time.

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You expose yourself in that you have no counter play to actual guns. Of course you should use other tactics, bait, use jumps. I'll agree that only retards run in a straight line.

Because Halo 2 didn't have massive open maps.

>chunky characters that are much easier to hit
>Other anti-Reachfags complain the S-IIIs are smaller and "look weaker"
So which is it?

>Releasing best MP first
Rip sales
>inb4 Trilogy niggers

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>forge got a more expansive toolkit but it's shit because i decided they're soulless
mentally ill

Weapons did LOOK weaker and unsatisfying, but it was overall easier to hit people.

>Because Halo 2 didn't have massive open maps.
>Coagulation
>Containment
>Waterworks
Sorry faggot, Halo 2 had superior BTB maps compared to Halo 3 as well.

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>Armor Abilities, including Sprint
>even further decreased walking acceleration since H2
>heavily increased weapon bloom
>Weapon Loadouts
Basically, Reach was the first step away from the PC-shooter derived roots of the Trilogy, and it directly lead to the elements people hate most about H4 and H5's multiplayer level design. The main people who love it are just those who were literally 9-12 when it came out, and they've reached the age where they're nostalgic over what they played as kids.

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Halo is cool, but you know what's really awesome? Sekiro.

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You're trolling, nobody's this retarded about a 15 year old game.

The forge creations in reach did look completely soulless. Every fucking map looked the same due to the shitty blue tint and terrain all being a single colour. Fuck Reach customs.

If my opponent makes a mistake he should pay for it. If I make a mistake I should pay for it. The thruster pack is cheap and gay.

Jetpack users imploded my asshole but my preferred control mapping was clunky as fuck with the jetpack and I didn't want to change it just so I could be mediocre with 1 ability and trash at everything else.

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You've been repeating this for 4 hours

Except he's not wrong in the slightest. The dislike of the Arbiter was a kneejerk "muh Chief" reaction when alien Keith David was the most compelling part of Halo 2. Halo 2 has frequently been labelled the king of quality multiplayer maps in the series, and its OST is definitely better than fucking 3.

>The thruster pack is cheap and gay.
Based and spartanpilled

>everyone is retarded at countering armor lock

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>You're trolling
>Halo 2 has no huge open maps
>Coagulation exists
>Containment exists
>Waterworks exists
Containment was the biggest fucking console Halo map until Forge World was released in Halo Reach. Bungie frequently joked they shouldn't have been able to get that map within the pitiful download limit for DLC back on the OG Xbox.

>In Halo 4 we explicitly state the Composer has no effect on Didact or Chief for that matter – thanks Librarian. What we see here isn’t a standard Composer usage by any stretch of the imagination. This is six plus Composers detonating all at once, their energy expelled in an uncontrolled manner. He’s not ‘Composed’ in the traditional sense because there is nothing there to process him. What he is… well, what he is is a surprise. But he’s out there. He’s alive. We’ll see him again.
BRIAN REED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posts like these always expose people who are absolute dog shit at video games. Yeah, armor lock is a death sentence if it's a one on one encounter because it's just delaying the inevitable, but there are three other players at any given time. You now have to look at all possible avenues of attack because you know he's screaming to anyone who will listen that he needs help. By pressing one button, he's flipped the advantage to himself.

Not that guy, but please learn to greentext correctly.

But we were talking about the BR and weapon balance, that's why you're a retarded baiter. Stay on topic for at least one reply and maybe I'll indulge your autism.

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>pointless health bar system that was never good in Halo 1 and was brought back for no reason

Absolute cancer. Reach was ruined by the same chimp brained popular contrarian opinion that infests the dumbest people who post here. They heard people complain about regenerating health so they put in a health bar without the slightest fucking idea why, not the slightest idea on why it was taken out, how to implement it or balance it with the current gameplay. The same faulty logic can be traced to many of their failures, such as loadouts and perks.

It was in such a tough spot with MW2 that they shat themselves out of fear. They wanted so badly to be like COD to get the cash and yet remain Halo, the game just ended up being pulled so many different conflicting directions. It’s total rubbish and it could have so easily not been.

As great as Forge World was, the same blueish grey colour architecture got old fast. 3's tools weren't nearly as good, but what it resulted in was map makers leaning on the existing maps as foundation. It gave the maps a bit more charm, and it meant that there was always a good bit of visual variety among maps.

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>Halo 2 hitscan worked
>Yeah but it didn't have big open maps
1) I'm not even the same person you were initially arguing with.

2) You're still fucking wrong on a factual level that "Halo 2 had no big open maps." The hitscan BR worked fine on these maps.

Portable on demand active camo was also a retarded as fuck idea. The AR got gutted from 3 as well come to think of it, the DMR is just a fucking ridiculous weapons platform in the sandbox no matter how you look at it.
Oh yeah and the frame pacing was awful and half the matchmaking maps where in forge world leaving the online feeling stale very rapidly.

Halo 2's br also couldn't shoot more than 100 yards.

Since there's a halo thread on Yea Forums I'd figure it best to vent my frustration with the PC news.

>Splash damage working on port
>SD did the Gears UE port for windows 10 and it was (and still is) a fucking disaster on PC
>SD developed dirty bomb on a version of unreal they were familiar with, menus and UI are not only buggy as fuck but there's an entirely different menu for when you're in-game (leftover from the alpha/beta of all fucking things)

I have little faith in SD to do a good job with the ports of these games. They've shown their incompetence in the past, even in familiar territory. How do they go from fucking up a perfectly working game (GoW1 PC once you're past all the bullshit of GFWL) to making an updated version of it run like absolute dogshit on PC, the platform it's home to?

The workload for a studio full of paid professionals in porting a ~5 halo titles to PC shouldn't be much based off the content that they do have to port. Forge and theater are already delayed and the reason given is keybinding? I think it's way more than that. It probably has to do with how data is stored/manipulated across win10/7 that they have to iron out before they launch what are arguably core pieces of content for reach/3. On top of that, mod tools were something that was 'being discussed' for a later date. I doubt we'll see HEK1, and we'll probably never get HEK2, especially with how fucked H2A might end up being on PC. Don't forget the origins of the MCC's version of Halo 2. It has its roots in bureaucratic vista bullshit, and MCC used to have its issues. If I had to take a guess, H2 for MCC both classic MP and remastered SP are going to be a severe headache and we shouldn't expect mod tools for certain games like CE:A, 2, likely ODST, and likely 4. Getting mod tools for reach would be a miracle, mod tools for 3 is a safe bet if they were to put out a new HEK.

Uncapped framerates are going to be hilarious as well, clientside and serverside modifications are required.

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You’re talking to two different people.

Reach niggas are the worst I swear. Halo 3 was a vibrant, colourful and extremely competitive game, Reach was nothing more than a washed out unrefined and unfocused mess of an experience with no real creative vision at all. It's like they made a good game, took away all the colour because that was cool at the time, and then had "that kid" come in and suggest a bunch of stupid bullshit that he thinks would be "so epic" if they put it in the game.

It was basically a sniper the fuck are you talking about