F

The alpha was the best version though

Niohfags are pretty bad, but sekirohomos are much worse.

based. im counting on you.

nioh would kill sekiro easily

F

>gaijin weeb vs. trueblood japanese with shura flowing through his veins

Yeeeaaah. That's gonna be a no from me dawg.

Sekiro's gameplay is sloppy shit, mostly because of jumping. Nioh's combat has a million times the options; five weapon types with 3 stances each, and runs at a smooth 60fps whereas Suckiro runs at an archaic 30(dips are common) on base PS4, and requires a mod to surpass the artificial frame rate limit on the PC version as if they wanted to deliberately AVOID good performance in an ACTION GAME

I haven't seen any Nioh threads for a while. Might have something to do with the face the games been out for a couple of years already or something, I don't know.

was this ever a free ps+ game

>am Soulsfag
>just started Sekiro, so no real basis but

Nioh feels way better so far. Sekiro has weird frame delay, half assed stealth, and the gameplay doesn't feel anywhere near as satisyfing or polished as Nioh's thus far. It's just parry parry parry attack parry parry parry attack; feels the simple out of any Souls game so far and not even that satisfying. Nioh had this as an OPTION. So did every other Souls games. This game just feels more limiting, and not even as polished at what it's trying to do as Nioh / other Souls. It just feels like a clunky B ninja game. Again, very early on. Nioh has way too many problems, but the gameplay was amazing. It just needed more than four enemies and to not reuse each area 10 times. Nioh 2 can be amazing.

It's really curious why everyone wanted to do Shinobi / Samurai Souls all at once; all it does it lead to even more obvious comparisons. Though Ghost of Tsukishima is more batman than Souls apparently (haven't kept up).

>things i don't see don't exist
Ive personally seen at least 3 Nioh threads since Sekiro's realease, and I don't even come here that often.

>five weapon types
seven

git gud

Both are fun games

sekiros story, amience, characters are all in a different league when you compare it to nioh.

It's because we're still waiting on Nioh 2 news.

So you got bored of an easy game to play an even easier game? Wow dude, based and ebinpilled

Nioh's was campy stupid and fun
Sekiro's is just in the way, so nah

All they have to do in Nioh 2 is bring all the enemies from Nioh 1 and its DLCs and then create the same amount again. There, you've now fixed enemy variety.

I sure do love Dark Souls for the fourth fucking time except now with a decidedly Japanese paintjob. The OST doesn't even stand out anywhere.

This desu, Sekiro is made outta paper

The OST just sounds like Witcher 3 mixed with Nioh and is pretty fucking shit

>implying they aren't also playing Sekiro
Why do you think gaming is some sort of gang war. Jesus...

git gud

I think Bloodborne is a fundamentally better game than Nioh. All of it's strengths are astronomical, and they simplify and refine souls' gameplay in order to make it a more focused experience and to enable higher difficulty and more rewarding challenge since fighting revolves around a very specific playstyle. Sekiro follows this logic to the extreme but akwardly expands in archaic ways like 'combat arts' which are all *literally* useless except for Ichimonji which is overpowered as hell. And introduces mechanics which almost immediately become totally irrelevant like Dragonrot. Sekiro takes the simplicity of Bloodborne and bloats it until it collapses under it's own weight. I would call it a great game, but far inferior to their more focused previous work.

> Though Ghost of Tsukishima is more batman than Souls apparently (haven't kept up).
And it's made by Americans, so you know souls-fags are going to be mercilessly butthurt.

this, i just love feudal japanese aesthetic

i'm gonna be playing ghost of tsushima too

if you haven't noticed it's niohfag season and everyone has their bait out

Nioh: February 7, 2017
Sekiro: March 22, 2019

I can only imagine why people aren't talking about it.

Thank you for saying this. I thought I was fucking crazy when I kept hearing The Witcher 3 music in there.

If I'm gonna play an action game, the very least it needs is engaging combat. I'll take fluidly engaging multiple enemies while managing Ki and Yokai pools over jumping on one guy and circle strafing the rest until their posture is broken.

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woops, literally just guessed since it's been a while

>nioh runs at 60fps on a base ps4
lmao

Honestly it plays nothing like souls games. It has more in common with modern Ninja Gaiden than it does souls games.

Personally, I fucking hate this medevil Samurai era bullshit. I don't care about some stupid fake demon Japanese history. Nioh's story was awful due to this and this game seems just as stupid. At least this one isn't even trying to be based around real events, right? I can't even tell. I don't even care. Just give me a good story or give me ambience like Souls / BB. Nioh and Sekiro immediately make my brain check out when they're reciting family trees after family trees about FEUDAL LORDS and all their stupid branches and christ it's so fucking boring

2 weapon types were added with the DLCs

why is there some perceived feud between the two games? I like both, nioh's combat had al lot more depth and the being able to dress up as all kinds of different samurai and ninja was cool but it's world design doesn't hold a candle to sekiro

What does BB have to do with it? Of course BB is better than Nioh. So is DS1. DS2. DS3. DeS.

That was the second dumbest thing I've read in the past month, and it somehow managed to make me hungry.

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>If I'm gonna play an action game, the very least it needs is engaging combat
>so he plays Nioh

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>and they simplify and refine souls' gameplay in order to make it a more focused experience
I've learned over time that every time a Soulsfag means "simpler but more focused" it just means "less, not necessarily better, but you trick yourself into thinking that it's better because of some false idea of quality".

Prove me wrong, dumbo

Plays exactly like Ninja Gaiden Sigma. You'd have to be a mentally handicapped brain-dead neander-tard not to see this obvious parallel.

I'm loving your counter arguments, droneboy. Does it shatter your pointless sense of worth so much to think somebody doesn't like your immaculate company's rehashed garbage?

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Atleast you don't need to mod the fuck out of the PC version like Nioh. Base ps4 framerate is fine but just has pacing issues but it isn't really a problem

johnny-come-lately soulsfags feign a superiority complex in order to 'fit in'

i was saying so because while i think BB is superior to Nioh, Sekiro is inferior to Nioh because it fucks up a lot of the things they got right with BB

>Sekiro comes out
>Somehow cant enjoy both
So this...is the power...of pander fags...Wow

>Droneboy

Wow, that sure is some high level thinking you got going on their, are you operating a 2498123645D chess table by any chance, incel?

Because Sekiro and Nioh both represent the Miyazaki dicksucker clan and the not-Miyazaki dicksucker clan.

git gud

you just stated your opinion with no substantiation, how is that supposed to change my mind? honing the gameplay into a particular playstyle allows them to design every enemy around that playstyle allowing for a wider spectrum of complex and unique challenges, instead of having to make every boss a swiss army knife to deal with a million possible classes. Less clunkiness and randomness or ability to play fraudulently

>CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG
>non-interactive cutscene damage
Yeah, sekiro is in a whole other league, bro.

Is Nioh harder than Sekiro?

wrong

sekiro and nioh is like america vs south america/europe/literally any vocal whatever

no matter what, you can't deny american superiority, its like punching up at a literal God.

nobody thinks about niohfags. this thread was just made to trigger you. i

Based and redpilled. In nooh it actually made sense but fucking Sekiro just fucking sucks in comparison. When are you supposed to jump, or Dodge? These are fucking worthless and will get you killed and instead you have to block and party and for some stupid reason that depletes the enemys posture but not your own. It makes no fucking sense. If you're the one having to defend enemy attacks you're the one who should be losing posture, not the other guy. How come when you attack others and they block you, they lose posture and die, but when you block their attacks you don't? It makes no fucking sense.

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I love how soulsfags have gone completely incel after Sekiro showed that Miyazaki is a fucking hack that can't make games because he thinks artificial difficulty = fun game. It's fucking great

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>Nioh
>literally dollar-store Souls
>calling out others for playing rehashed garbage

wew lad

No, Sekiro is a lot harder.

>incel
On a scale of 1 to Miyazaki's balls on your chin, how much cum are you choking on in your triggered spasms right now?

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no, and it's also just shittier in every way

git gud

Probably because the playstyle is so focused that there is barely a sense of mastery to it. Every time people talk about the skill ceiling of BB for example, they only bring up "dodging enemies at the right time". That's not mastery over gameplay, that's mastery over the enemy, which is learned through memorization and not experience. It's the same thing with Sekiro, you're not mastering the gameplay because it's barebones, you're mastering the enemy because you learn to jump over something, dodge another thing, parry another thing, etc. Good actions games ask you to both master the enemies and the gameplay, which is why it represents to me "less" when Fromsoft focuses too much on something.

git gud

Nioh is a lot easier because it gives you many options on how to play, beyond "Use tool A for enemy A, tool B for enemy B, we'll give you some situational ninja techniques for your ninja character near the end of the game".

I really do feel like Sekiro is the worst of the Souls like games out recently. Nioh has really smooth and pllolished gameplay. Sekiro feels like it's waiting for a few patches. I bet in time Sekiro will be seen as the worst of the From games of late, but it will be blamed on Activision rather than Miyazaki

>>literally dollar-store Souls
That's Lords Of The Fallen and The Surge.

I hated Sekiro less than DS2 because it's at least consistently functional. It's just bland and low-effort.

This

you are literally never supposed to jump unless it's to evade a sweep. i mean, you can use it to go in on your opponent for example if you jump into Genichiro as he runs towards you you'll stun him for a second so you'll be able to get some damage. Or you can jump away from your opponent to dodge certain attacks although you'll have to memorize the hitboxes since some moves literally have invisible disjointed vertical hitboxes that will hit you regardless.

Sekiro isn't even in the same genre as BB and Nioh.

Meh for as much shit as DS2 gets, a lot justified, I put 700 hours in it before I was done. I'm done with Sekiro after around 40 and doubt I'll ever come back.

>People fighting over Sekiro or Nioh
>I'm just happy to have more Samurai games

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It does though

This entire thread exists for 2 reasons.
1. A few hours ago in a "Are we ready to admit Sekiro surpassed bloodborne thread." the most based fpbp in the world replied punctually, "Sekiro didn't even surpass Nioh".
2. Soulsfags will NEVER get over the fact team fucking ninja of all developers did their own take on the souls formula and crafted better combat than any fromsoft action game ever made (Save armored core if you count that as "Action" and not strictly mecha)

Nioh will always be a thorn in the fervent soulsfags side because they know god damn well why and how the game feels better to play, and why it will always be the action game preferred by the purist. Neither Nioh nor the souls franchise are without their flaws, but where gameplay reigns supreme, Nioh will always reign supreme. Sekiro didn't even come remotely close.

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Sekiro is a Shinobu game

Sekiro isn't a "Souls like" ignoring the fact that only retards use that term

you may be a brainlet user. slight chance.

Because DS2 gives you build variety and multiplayer, Sekiro just has a few endings and grinding XP to fill out your scrolls

It really didn't feel like one.

>feudal japan meme
god this shit is so boring and ugly. only weebs could like this setting, give me mesoamerican aztecs or mid-20th century united states

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------------->the goalpoasts

i dont think most soulsfag even gave nioh a chance

this thread was made just to bait nioh fans

seriously, isnt nioh just a souls clone anyways. i dont give any clone games respect nor my time.

No it is not. Sekiro is the exact opposite of a shinobi game. Putting stereotypical ninja tools in an action game doesn't make the game a ninja game. The atrocious and poorly thought out stealth elements shows glaringly the remnants of how this game started off as a tenchu game. I'd honestly rather have a Tenchu game than Sekiro.

>Nioh comes out
>BLATANT SOULS RIPOFF
>LOOK AT THIS SHITTY SOULSLIKE
>Sekiro comes out, an actually reskinned Dark Souls
>sir, it's not even the same. what even is a soulslike?

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I see you haven't reached Genichiro yet.

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>56%er opening his sweaty maw to complain about not being pandered to by a Japanese company

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i like the setting but i agree it's so fucking overused holy shit

there are some super awesome areas later in Sekiro that make it worth it but for the first few levels (%20ish percent of the game) i was about to blow my brains out

i mean they literally use the exact same UI as every other sengoku era game, the deep black calligraphy brushstroke motif

>Sekiro comes out, an actually reskinned Dark Souls
Jesus fuck, the dumb shit you read here

How is Nioh? is it any better than souls games?

typing poorly wont mask your obvious and pathetic disdain for a game you never played as a passive ephemeral angst. In other words, you don't know shit about shit and you've admitted you don't know shit about shit, so stop posting.

you will never, ever get what you want lol
you'll die a virgin, the sjws will win, communism is the future, the game you want will never exist, and you will never have the talent, skills, money or social ability to have it made

Most of them, yeah.

Going through Sekiro made me reinstall Nioh since I never played the dlc. I just have to finish Sword Saint then I will take a break before doing NG+. Sekiro really needs dlc that will force us to use all of the tools instead of making most of them are useless like the spear and the axe that each have about 3 different basic enemies that they are useful against.

Yes, vastly. You'll never find a soulsfag willing to admit it, which is proof enough on its own. Theres a reason any mention of Nioh is immediately greeted with angry fans of the souls series, and its not because Nioh is somehow worse.

Nioh's gameplay is pretty fucking great.

Sekiro's 1 moveset is really bland and boring and just amounts to mashing in between mechanics. I wouldn't say the game is bad, but it's not great.

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is this some kind of shitty korean mmo? what game is this?

>teehee I posted it again
Massively overleveled just looking at those bloated stats, and you can replay old missions.
Leave it to a blind Miyazaki fanboy to honestly decry having options, though. You could play through Nioh using just bows and guns if you wanted, or pure magic or bombs.
Nobody cares because options are good and fun.

Imagine thinking that "soulsfags", pretty much the only people here that genuinely want good gameplay, didn't play another good game with good gameplay that fills a niche they love. You're the definition of autistic and this war you create between fans of games (you can enjoy different games) doesn't exist.

Most of us enjoy all of these games. I loved all of them. Sekiro is my least favorite. But they're all great. Hollow Knight. Furi. DeS, DS1-3, BB, Nioh, Sekiro. You are a fucking loser trying to fight over pixels. Go get laid.

Looks great.

I only got to play Nioh until the first boss because it caused an unfixable crash, and I was amazed at how precise and tight the combat felt. Souls is absolute garbage in comparison, and Sekiro is even worse. Nioh is literally what it should have been, and I didn't even get to get out of the prison.

It's extremely fun and very satisfying.

How would a Soulslike game even work in 20th century america? They had fucking guns, and they weren't still using melee weapons

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No. The level design is awful, there's like 3 enemy types, and the combat is literally a souls rip-off with autistic shit like stances that only give it artificial depth.

based

note ninja arts dont mean assassination arts

more like trump card techniques

>Most of us enjoy all of these games
I agree with you. I like both Nioh and Souls (excluding 2 and 3), but there is some bizarre subset of butthurt soulsfags that constantly shitpost about nioh for some reason.

>tfw both games are great

Why does there always have to be some sort of retarded fanbase war with you people?

Fuck you're retarded

This.
Give me Tenchu Z pc port or give me death. Even if you play it as an action game the combat is way better than sekiro's.

Setting suggestions are always retarded.
"American Aztec" sounds cool on paper until you think about it for five seconds and realize most of the game would take place in corn fields.

>nioh went on sale a few weeks back
>buy it
>get to second area
>think "damn, this is actually fun and tight, but sekiro is coming out so i'm not gonna play it"
>refund it
>buy sekiro
>it's fucking shit, the worst from game and a waste of time

Goddammit bros, I messed up. Then again I was getting kind of mad at that beach area, I got ganked pretty hard but it's way better than the CLANGCLANGCLANG*cutscene**die* that sekshitter has to offer

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Stopped reading at >overleveled
Thats why Sekiro is better.
No way to overlevel. Just get better at the game. Stay mad Nioh fag.

I'm playing both, mother fucker, the fuck you gonna do now?

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The fact that they didn't fully commit to any real area of feudal japan is what makes most of the world boring. They could have focused more on yokai or on sengoku warriors. Nioh focused on both and did it pretty well. Sekiro focused on neither so we have a couple random ghosts, some fish monsters, and one demon. While the story is about a clan whose defining feature in history is getting fucked by Date Masamune. Even the dragon is Chinese.

Once you get used to the combat system, it is so deep and satisfying that it could potentially ruin souls games for you in the same way that souls games ruin other standard AAA games.

Would definitely recommend clearing Way of the Demon and then putting the game down because the difficulty goes radically insane after that and you end up relying on planned gimmick builds.

There's an option to lock it to 720p 60fps or 1080p 30fps.

Is that why every secasual webm has a gigantic healthbar and 10 not-estus?

Combat system is great and honestly better than any of the souls games and it has pretty deep customisation. It lacks variety though and reuses assets as much as possible. As the loot system is very cumbersome.

>Sekuso blew them the fuck out
Not with its sub-30fps, motion-blur disguised framerate, it hasn't.

Doesnt matter how many threads you make, you still wont make me not excited for Nioh2 OP, but keep trying, you will probably convince some anons here, because if there is one thing common in your average Yea Forumsirgin is being easily manipulated, just force one meme or shitty opinion a few times and they will follow suit, loving it.

>it is so deep and satisfying that it could potentially ruin souls games for you in the same way that souls games ruin other standard AAA games.
What kind of mongoloids think like this?

You can only get said healthbar and estus by killing the bosses retard. Why dont you PLAY THR GAME before you talk about it.

I have no idea where you're going with that post but I stand by my statement that Sekiro is NOT a ninja/shinobi game. Its an action game where the protagonist is a "ninja" that can stealth kill as a new form of mitigation of the usual "trash mobs" present in every single fromsoft action games world design formula (soulslike).

Additionally, saying its "not a souls game" is a retarded half truth. The only souls-like game where you have a good arguement with that was Nioh because it actually played like a different game. Everyone knows the similarities for both, they're glaringly obvious. A quirky gameplay mechanic or two doesn't remove a game from a genre when its still adherent to the exact same formulaic development tropes.

You do realize it's on PC right? You're cherrypicking.

>playing on consoles

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Would rather play a good game, lol.

Fuck Nioh gacha crafting and Diablo loot though.

>No way to overlevel so its worse
A lack of design depth is better? Every single "upgrade" in sekiro is useless because even when upgarding vitality and attack, enemies and bosses scale with it. You may as well not bother with any minibosses or upgrades, and in fact you can if you want to go for speed. This is a vastly inferior system.
>inb4 catering to autistic speedrunners through retard scaling is a plus

>still sold millions
>doesn't have to make multiple dubs to pander to dumb amerifats

I hate how easy it is to cheese the game though

I feel like Sekiro acts like nobody knows what any of this japanese mysticism stuff is, like they've misread western perception of japanese culture. they treat it's inclusion in the game like a reveal on par with Bloodborne that recontextualizes the latter half of the game begnning with Genichiro, but it's all so quaint. The story is terrible. You *barely* even have any motivation to kill anyone in the game, they are all straight up peaceful towards Kuro, they just don't want you to take him. Even Isshin is tight with you and dislikes his dick of a grandson. I know that's usually the way sengoku stuff goes, focusing on political allegiances rather than personal motivations but this is some flimsy shit.

It's true though. Nioh has so much more going on with it's combat system and pace that it's hard to go back to R1 mashing and roll spam.

Maybe if your brain doesn't function properly. You know it's possible to enjoy multiple things at once, right?

Why is Nioh's multi so dead? I'd love to do some coop but literally no one is ever looking for people

>tfw like sekiro, nioh and souls a whole lot
>tfw not some fag that can only pick one team

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>corn fields/ city outskirts
>actual city/pyramids
>jungle/ dense forest
>small opposing tribe/huts and riverside
>caves/ mountains
It would be similar to Sekiro but without the magical hookshot of verticality.

People who want to play co-op tend to have a partner already, and there's a dedicated co-op lobby which works slightly differently to just summoning visitors.

Sure, you can enjoy both. I just remember going back to bloodborne after playing nioh and it felt like the entire game was playing at half speed, and I wasn't really ever pushing more than three buttons. I was thinking about a lot less in general, because there just wasn't as much going on.

Gameplay is much better. An argument could be made that Nioh doesn't have consistently good level layouts, but there's really only 1 or 2 bad maps. There are some fantastic levels like the mountainside graveyard/shrine from the DLC, Sekigahara, the Falling Snow map, the Ishida clans compound, the fishing village from the first level, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head. There was a post DLC update that added a few more enemy types to the base game levels, but I still consider it lacking variety since there just isn't enough enemy types for 5 difficulties.

Are you talking about how you have to select it from the map if you want to get summoned or something else entirely? But you're probably right about people already having partners it just sucks because one of my favorite parts about these games is cooping with strangers

Everyone seems to hate it, but ocean roars again was my favorite map in the game. Holy shit, was it kino and gorgeous to look at and the music too. Everything about it was 10/10 even with the ledges everywhere.

Oh man, I'm leaning towards this.
I'll wait for someone to do a "level 1" play through of sekiro, but so far it seems that you have to use memories to strengthen or else subsequent bosses will be slogs.

i really like the temple over the ocean with pits that fall into the water, i really like areas that incorporate water like that

I enjoy the layout, but hate playing through it because of the enemy placement.

I forget how it works as I only did it once, but it has a revive function so your friend isn't ejected immediately for making a dumb mistake. Instead you both get limited revives, I think. It's simply more convenient when all you wanna do is kill shit with a pal.

that's ocean roars again

this. the only thing is that sekiros level and world design is many leagues above nioh not to mention bosses and enemy variety.

>Bloostains fucking everywhere
>Pick one, any one
>It's just their silhouette disappearing into the floorboards
>Sometimes the stains are so numerous they make it harder to see the pitfall

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Yeah, sekiro's world design and atmosphere is pretty great, but that combat is underwhelming. Nioh is still combat king.

there are random encounter souls style summons and there is a co-op lobby system with a shared death counter

Yea Forums, except for a few people, hates both Nioh and Sekiro.
That proves that this board has no opinions worth listening to.

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Ki button is just a meme, there are 0 (zero, nul, 零) reasons for this input
If I wanted to justframe shit, I'd play a rhythm game.

Fighting the demon of hatred shows the biggest problems with the Sekiro's combat. The combat works in a very specific way and when it tries to break the basic mold things get real shitty which limits the variety in fights. The demon is basically a dark souls boss where you are just constantly sprinting around smacking him and going back to running instead of a methodical deflecting duel. The game either needed more depth with the ninja tools or it needed another main weapon with a different moveset. The easiest option would have been making the mortal blade a big 2 handed sword meant for killing yokai then they could have completely changed up the game once you reach the half way mark. But instead we are forced to carry a sword on our back for a single special move that costs emblems to use.

Ninja tools are such wasted potential since there's like 30 of them with all the upgrades, but so many of them serve no real purpose then there are a couple incredibly niche ones and the only reliable one that you will be using for basically the entire game is the firecracker.

Only retarded contrarians think Nioh is better than Sekiro.
Sekiro is better in just about every way.

>Replenishing your depleted stamina long before it recharges
>Dispelling yokai pools
It's not even a difficult skill to pick up on, just look for the glowy blue lights.

Only retarded contrarians think Sekiro is better than Nioh.
Nioh is better in just about every way.
Hey, I can do this too!

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Are there seriously retards here who don't play all the good games out there and instead they take sides like little kids back in the 90s because their parents could only afford one console? What's the point even, most of you are not going to pay for the games so what do you gain by doing this

>hurrrr why isn't every boss battle the same

Kino > Nioh

You still have some sanity left, user.
Leave while you still can. You know there's nothing for you to gain here.

Part of investing and involving yourself in a game you like is measuring its worth against other games of the same genre. You can't honestly tell me that people who played games like the original castlevania dont have a right to bitch about how much better it is than Dr. Jeckyl/Mr. Hide.
Even if the differences aren't that wide apart, people tend to defend their choice of hobby much like their choice of ice cream.
Are you faggots really that floored to know that when people enjoy something they'll consider it better than something they enjoy less?

Every battle that isn't the same feels like shit because the combat wasn't designed for those fights.

But Sekiro and Nioh aren't in the same genre.

You say that like most of Yea Forums isn't 12 and 13 year olds going through that very thing right now. Because I highly suspect it is.

What did he mean by this? Do you realize can still deflect all attacks with the obvious exceptions? The umbrella is also really good against fights with aoe attacks and projectiles like the monkey and demon fights.

Sekiro has it's flaws, but Nioh and Bloodborne are shit. I don't even know where the BB fags came from, but it goes to show retarded they for posting their irrelevant and also shitty game.

Does it matter? Genre, theme, friggin' art style? Remember when Pokemon came out, and everyone who played digimon games got into fucking rage wars over how much a ripoff pokemon was of digimon, and they weren't even built on the same mechanics? It's normal for people to shit on eachother over stuff like this. In a lot of ways, it even helps expand the franchise.

I'm sure Sony and Japan Studio will let you play it one day
Or you could just hack a preowned PS4 I guess

Nioh's combat is 100x smoother

waiting patiently for info

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Is this bait? Pokémon games came before Digimon you retard

Its all souls gameplay. Everything from DaS,Nioh to Sekiro is the same.
>n-nioh had better combat
Yes
>sekiro has better combat now
Yes
Fuck you arguing about

I am enjoying Nioh more because it has online coop.

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Niohfag here. I'm in weeb hog heaven. By the time I'm all through with Sekiro and its inevitable DLC Nioh 2 will be nearing its release. Only an idiot would pit these two games against each other instead of enjoying both.

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Not bait, more of a typo. There was still digimon media and "games" (see tamagotchi digimon battle keychain toys) that were still hotly debated by fans compared to pokemon.
That just proves my fucking point douchenozzle. Even if the media isn't the same genre people will still argue over which franchise is better. I say keep going. The more convos we have about games the better. The more people piss on eachother the more others find out about the games we bitch about. 'sall good nigger.

>rage wars over how much a ripoff pokemon was of digimon
things that never happened for $100, alex

>Sekiro has a rice loli that you can impregnate
>Nioh has a dozen high quality waifus

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Aw man, nioh is such a fun game and now you shit on it, you people are losers

this, im playing through nioh again atm then once sekiro goty hits i will play through that and and ghost of tsushima and then nioh 2

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nice cinematic shit lmao

I blame consoles, personally

>game stopped being good because other game came out

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And it'll all happen again when Nioh 2 comes out.
Personally I just want a new NG and Tenchu, but whatever.

what's wrong with enjoying both ? lol

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Sekiro is good but still too slow and not fluid enough to compete with Nioh

>No way to overlevel
this isnt true, the dragon mask and ng+ allow infinite upgrades to your attack

Both are shit because they don't have character creation. Nioh is probably better because of more weapon variety but still shit.
Gonna play Nioh 2 and Code NeverComingOut.

You can like both games. There's no need for franchise wars when both games are available on the aame platform. Both games have their merits or strong points so stop trying to pretend one has complete superiority over the other

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What happened? Servers shutting down?
A shame. Enjoyed alpha/beta and was waiting for price drop

it's just sekiro shitposting

>late/endgame ng+ sekiro deflecting is useless because bosses regen posture at lightning speed so you're just better off hitting them until their health reaches 0

>Nioh actually went through an open bet and alpha where they perfectioned the gameplay
This is how you spot a fag that never actually played the pre-release versions. They nerfed the shit out of Nioh for release.

bro even on 60 its not that fun. actually its 70% obnoxious grind and 30% fun.

>play sekiro on base ps4
>game has a weird input lag/queuing whenever the fps dips
Damnit the game isn't good looking

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Nioh is a better game in everyway except for the Diablo loot system

no

Nioh has more variety to combat but most are sub par while others are straight up broken. Most equipment attributes and guardian spirits were junk. Some skills are so OP they'll carry you to WOTN.

>play sekiro on base ps4
Im not really sure what you were expecting since even BB runs like ass on it.

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Does event damage really scale with your health? I refuse to believe that. What would be the point of health upgrades if that were true. Post proof.

Could Maria kill Butterfly hag

Yes but BB want trying to be a fast paced action game

I already said this once in another thread, NGB absolutely blows both games out of the water and it's a fucking 15 year old game
>Infinitely better combat system
>actual smooth 60fps throughout the entire game
>level design miles ahead of both games
>superior enemy design and much more variety
>superior bosses all around with just a few weak entries that still shit all over the worst boss in either game
>Did I mention how god damned amazing the combat system is? Insanely fluid and tight, nothing feels out of your control at any moment
>Balance and pacing right on point, harder difficulties actually mean something instead of "hurr just one-shot attacks and damage sponge enemies"

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more like ninja gayden lmao

Both are great games Nioh is harder though

>>Atleast you don't need to mod the fuck out of the PC version like Nioh.
? There's like one mod for nioh

>Jumps a lot
>Dives thru enemy
>Repeat until win
gr8 combat

t. never played the game. kys you fucking subhuman

I played Sigma on PS3 and beat it

>mesoamerican aztec meme shit

What's with you faggots popping out all of a sudden? Do you realize how boring that actually is? You got like 4 viable weapons, the armor looks like fucking Pajama onesies, etc.

Why is Yea Forums so obsessed with warring factions
You can like both. I hope Nioh 2 is to Nioh as dark souls was to demons souls. Just like how I hope Bayo 3 will be to the franchise what DMC5 was to the DMC franchise, frantic and fun

>Ghost of tsushima
Yikes
I expect nothing from that game

>faggots
>plural
how new r u? it's one guy.

based

Nah dude, maybe it's one guy in souls threads but there is a contingency of Meso American autists in Yea Forums that keep wanting to shove it in shit.

Cybersouls is about the only novel thing they could do at this point.

>720p 60fps or 1080p 30fps.
>2018-2019
PFFFFFFFT
HAHAHAHAHAH

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user, it is good that you are posting based Nioh webms but the beauty of them is lost on those who don't play it or aren't good at it. They won't see all the quick weapon swaps and stance changes. Such a shame really, Nioh is so good and has lot of depth in the fighting techniques but most people are put off by how it looks and how it plays in the beginning, when you don't have any of the important skills yet.

Tell me about those hitboxes, user.

G-guys I have a confession to make. I don't like sekiro or nioh, or souls games at all. I just really like seeing the two fanbases argue with me each other like the little slut I am.

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>ki pulse
>justframe
Literally, unironically, what? It has a super relax input window, you don't even need to concentrate on it. Just push a button when you see a faint blue flash or notice the ki bar filling up.

Sigma is not Ninja Gaiden Black. Sigma was made easier and allows you to be a swallow and dive shitter.
Put the game on a harder difficulty and see how far you can get using the swallow.

faster

unironically the best souls game, it's like comparing a lake and a puddle, where souls games and sekiro are puddles and Nioh is a beautiful lake

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>all these fucking incels worrying about who has the bigger dick
Have sex OP.
On a side note Nioh did it better, not only is the mission system fun and makes u not get losteroni but it also is based. And the story was much better
Gaijin samurai>hardened shinobi trope
Plus sekiro’s crappy story is told like miyazaki likes to cause he’s lazy; through cryptic events in the gameworld. Nioh had fully fledged cutscenes and the story was simplistic yet filled with exciting characters, you literally cannot deny that sekiro is FromSoft’s reply to NioH and it didnt best its father

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>Sekiro is a Shinobu game

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Nioh has good gameplay, but the rest of the game is shit. Sekiro is pretty balanced all around.

I think the game still looks slick in general but knowing the execution behind it does help it shine. I always watch the stance bar because of it.
The really funny thing is that a huge part of Ki Pulse's depth comes from it's wholly variable timing. It lets you choose between speed or Ki based on the situation at hand.

Who?

I'm pretty sure one of the first bosses in the game tutorializes that sheer posture focus isn't always the best option.

It's just hard for me to see these two games in different camps like that, maybe it's just because I like them both. It's more understandable if these games came out at the same time or if they were multiplayer games that require you to invest your time to only one of them. That's how I see it anyway

mashing the same combo over and over again while putting up with the worst hitboxes in gaming history.
truly sucks to be sekiro niggers.

If only.

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IZA

Why do you fags have to have some sort of shitflinging contest over everything?
Nioh is cool. Sekiro too.
Nioh 2 sometime this year maybe as well as Ghosts of Tsushima or whatever. They all look pretty neat.
Can't you chucklefucks just enjoy the YOOOO without acting like children?

>played Demon's Souls to completion twice all those years ago
>haven't completed a Souls game since then and skipped the 2nd one
>farthest I got in Bloodborne was some witch boss in a village
>farthest I got in Nioh was just past the crow boss
I can't explain why, but the magic just faded for me as time went on. I'm actually on the fence about getting Sekiro, because maybe it'll be that game I'm fully invested in, or I'll get like 6 hours in and drop it like I have its predecessors.

Fuck off. Dark Souls 3 is the worst souls game.

Nioh's combat system is amazing, but they shit the bed with basically everything else
The enemies, bosses and level design are all bad and make dark souls 2's look god tier. It ends up being a pretty average game with a great combat system that isn't allowed to shine because it's stuck in a pile of garbage
Keep in mind I'm not saying Sekiro is better since I haven't played it yet. Just giving my thoughts on Nioh

>aryan loses to oriental jap
Master race bros..?

>hey it's another nip swordsman game
>I liked the other one by those other guys, I'm going to play this one

>the virgin wolf
>>total manlet, even for jap standards
>>loses his arm to a jobber
>>can only wield a single katana, barely has any tools for his robot arm and autistically refuses to use his second katana
>>fought against a tiny region of japan in a period of maybe a few days out of obligation
>>overall had little impact on the war
>>bows to some kid
>>can't handle his own immortality, wants to die

>the chad nioh
' aryan, towers above his foes
>>has both of his arms still intact
>>master of all weapons, including ninja tools firearms and magic
>>fought in the front lines of multiple wars spanning several years throughout japan just to save his waifu and later to save the world
>>ended up single-handedly unifying japan
>>bows to no one, japan's leaders all bow to him
>>will live forever with his fish waifu stand (whom he fucks daily)

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>F
inalize my order please

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t. filtered at hino enma

Nioh was fucking trash. Dropped it after 10 hours when I realized how boring and repetitive it is.
>b-but muh combat
Game focuses on combat and nothing else yet it's still worse than DMC, Bayonetta, etc.

>The loot isn't that bad if you're not retarded.
>The loot adds complexity and depth
>They're going to fix it in the sequel!!!
>Filter it brainlet
Am I missing anything else?

I love them both. They play differently. If anything Sekiro is getting me excited for Nioh 2

I beat the entirety of Nioh using just low and midstance of one weapon, it doesn't matter if the game has "depth" to its combat if none of it matters due to the content not forcing you to utilize it. Anyone can build a complex combat system, developing content that utilizes it properly is the challenge.
Sekiro's combat is basic but every element of the core combat is essential to playing, prosthetics on the other hand are fucking useless for 80% of the game.

goddamn PTSD

Im playing Nioh right now for the first time and loving it. I plan to get Sekiro after I finish this and dmc5. I also loved DeS to DaS3 to BB.

Why do you guys have to make this a developer war all the time? Besides ninja gaiden is better than all the above faggots.

>shitflinging contest over everything
fagirolets are going on autistic manlet rage that their game isn't well received on anonymous shitposting boards. they're flinging shit on every collective playerbase they encounter. It's the DS2 abortion playerbase.

Give it two months their game will be forgotten by then.

no, prosthetics is part of the combat system
>80% of skills useless
>80% of prosthetics useless
>r1 and l1 not useless
It could be done better

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I just got sekiro so im not sure about wolf. But wouldnt it go on forever since both of them have the ability to come back to life canonically?

>using just low and midstance of one weapon
you already played with more stuff than sekiro has to offer.
now talk about the weapon arts, consumables and special moves from weapons in nioh that you chose to ignore, nigger.

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>I beat the entirety of Nioh using just low and midstance of one weapon
You have no one but yourself to blame.

I wish Sekiro had skins like Nioh

>Kino
True
We need more Kino

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Did anyone else hit floor 999?

What build did you use?

It´s just Fromfags shitposting
They will never try to play anything else and always scream that their game is the best.

>dirty nigger coop
I see why you'd hate sekiro.

>playing Sekiro on a base PS4
>parry timings shift with the current of the framerate
I have mastered the way of the shinobi beyond what you could ever dare to dream.

Why does everything have to be a competition for you fags? Both games are great

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>perfect
Too fat.

too much chest but I would still let her cover my face in lube and then attempt to suffocate me with said chest

GInchiyo is a cute cuckquette

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You don't even need two stances
High stance kusarigama or ninjutsu build and you fucking destroy every single enemy in pve
I'm going right now in the dlc's and I barely need to touch the bosses with my weapon because they just fucking die with the kunai first

Name please.

Diablo loot made this game impossible to balance. Living weapon meme builds dominate the game.

>Use living weapon
>Use amrita if you haven't killed the boss yet
>Use living weapon again
>Replenish with more amrita
They should have tested this stuff before

45gb>13gb

Hopefully 2 addresses this.

It's amazing this was never patched. Was any of the broken stuff fixed in the end?

I think Nioh 2 will btfo sekiro. But combat is the most important part of an action game.

They made it a bit harder but it still exist. They patched in different options to make more builds OP which was cool

You can abuse everything in the game. If you've picked the lil spider bro as a spirit, you can pop living weapon every 2 seconds without having to use amrita. If you've picked tonfas you can one hit kill every boss. If you've picked spears you can just cheese a boss. If you've picked katanas you can do some weaboo shit and one hit kill all bosses. If you've picked guns you can just stunlock bosses or one shot kill a boss with the cannon. etc

Saying it's balance is fucked because of living weapons, when in fact that it is intended use, is fucking retarded. I don't want a Dark Souls: Nioh 2. I want Nioh with even more dumb shit and loot like that.

This

The amount of cuties in Nioh is truly outstanding. Other developers should take notes.

>the cutest girl is a gaijin
What did they mean by this?

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>you can only like one
Says who? I can play both if I want to.

this

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