I haven't played a pokemon game since heart gold/soul silver

It has the same shit leveling issues as the original. I expected some quality after a decaded but I was proven wrong.

BW2, everything else ranges from okay to Let's Go-tier.

Platinum and black/white 2 are peak of nu pokemon, rest is crap.

>Gen 5
Pretty good games.
>Gen 6
Tried to appeal too much to nostalgia, and while mega evolutions were an interesting idea, they completely ruin the game with power creep.
>Gen 7
Overall kind of dull, but it's somewhat of a new approach.
>remakes
Just play emerald.

Just get Masuda, Kwachimaru and Unno to make BW3xPlatinum Kino edition.

ORAS are better than Emerald.
>but muh frontier
Maison is better.

I'd almost say "nothing" since this was damn near the peak but you should check out Black/White and its sequel, the nostalgia isn't as strong but on a technical level it's the best it ever was. X&Y onwards has been a shitshow and it gets worse each game, 3D was a colossal mistake.

You know most of the people posting in this thread are underage when they are unironically saying gen 5 was the last good gen.

Lack of Heart Gold and No Soul Silver.

>ORAS are better than Emerald.
ORAS is literately the lowest point of the mainline games. It's irredeemable garbage (minus the Deoxys section).

>ORAS are better than Emerald
youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA

>seething lesser gencuck

Take your (You) you cheeky little shit.

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Proving my point that you are underage and retarded.

Play BW2 and you’ll have played all the good mainline pokemons after HGSS. Maybe BW1 if you want, it’s not bad but it’s just kinda more of the same.

>wahhh kanto is too hard

Get gud baby

let me guess, hoennfag trying to mask his anger that ORAS sucked total ass?

Nah my taste is pretty lit. Gen 4 and 5 only, everything else is trash.

Who is making Sword and Shield?

>>wahhh kanto is too hard
Other ways around, faggot, the game is TOO easy. It's the easist game competing with RSE.

Buraku or Wvite 2

Masuda lost his soul when his baby (BW) underperformed.

where did you get that from? lol
>my taste is lit
>Gen 4 and 5 only
lmao at least try to hide that you are underage. your taste is as bad as your bait

Japanese recommendation list:

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He really did and now we're paying the price for it.

BW1 and BW2 respectively. Give XY a shot, skip ORAS, and maybe skip SM/USUM unless you like movies.

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BW2 is pretty good but without the walking pokemon gimmick it feels empty and lonely desu.

>HGSS and BW2
Based Japs

I liked x/y mainly due to seeing the new character models and shit. Other then that nothing changed and handholding became a norm in the series.

Ohmori.

Every pokemon game is easy shit for babies so who cares?

>your taste is as bad as your bait
Not even bait, boi. I see no reason to return to the other regions when they're so shit in comparison. Gen 2's awful leveling and poke disrtibution, 3's lack of features from the original,lack of post game bar BF (which kinda sucked) and needing an extra console just to complete the pokedex. 4 and 5 did away with that and I'm never looking back.

The 3D models are fucking soulless compared to sprites.

Just play the Crystal Clear rom hack. It's even better then the remakes of gold and silver.

You're missing out on 5th gen. BW1 is hit or miss (I personally love it) but BW2 are arguably some of the finest Pokemon games ever made.

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>w-well every other game sucked, w-why do you even care
Cope, Gen 2 sucked ass because of this. No other game in the series had leveling that shitty.

Roller skates were dope.

It's fake user. How else would anyone even catagorize HGSS as a masterpiece.

There are no leveling issues because the game really ends at a level 70-80 fight, making it longer than most of the Pokemon games actually.
Beating Johto is only getting halfway through the game. Everyone knows this.

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Every gen is bad.
Prove me wrong.

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user, you come into all these threads and shit on HGSS. You're literally the only person who feels that way. Just let it go already.

The fuck is the problem with ORAS game was fun as fuck

>no reason to return to other regions
I hope your the minority otherwise the new generation of gamers are retards
>Gen 2's awful leveling and poke distribution.
>3's lack of features, lack of post game
I see you've never played crystal or emerald
I shouldn't have even bothered replying lol

Gen 5 is the least bad gen :^)

>I see you've never played crystal or emerald
I did, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned the Battle Froniter, retard. lel

>i like all the games before Platinum
I just never played it AT ALL, couldn't get past the start of B2/W2 either, or S/M, didn't even try US/UM
OR/AS was a huge disappointment though, I'm not a Hoennfag but it was the age where I think I played it the most. Can this Ohmori nigger already.

that's not what people are referring to with the leveling issues
the issue is Johto actively punishes the player for playing any other way than soloing

HGSS is a massive stepback from Platinum.

I've never heard of this issue before, what I've mostly heard from others is disappointment in being around level 40 or so when at the Elite 4 for the first time.
How does the game actively punish players for not soloing?

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Kanto is short as fuck and the trainers there are a joke aside from Blue and Red.

>He has to solo
Git fucking gud
I've beaten johto with 7 pokemon and no grinding. You're just bad at a childrens game

>lack of post game
>but i mentioned battle frontier
so you cant come up with a valid criticism so you make one up then contradict yourself
lol

Most people disagree with you. You don't have to try and validate your shitty minority opinions every time someone offers praise for HGSS. I assure you you don't have special knowledge of the game that everyone else is just too dumb to see.

The trainers there are a joke? I figured the wild pokemon were more of a joke. I clearly remember wild Pokemon being shit like level 5-30 while trainers were still around level 40-50 or so.

>so you cant come up with a valid criticism so you make one up then contradict yourself
>lack of post game bar BF

>tfw Masuda pre-BW reception will never come back
Poor man had his soul crushed

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Not him but there are no places to level shit up without it being a tedious grind. Want a new pokemon? Good fucking luck getting it up to the rest of your team. This is why the Vs Seeker is so much better than the phone call system for rematches.

Seething Johtocuck, I finished the game twice and it is definetly below Platinum. Down from the pokemon distribution, the cohesive leveling, the region, the post and the major deciders like VS SEEKERS and rematches.

Have you tried actively using your party during battles so most of your Pokemon get trainer exp? The only times I've ever had this be a problem was when there was a new Pokemon that I've wanted in my team but it was only found in fucking Victory Road when it was 20 levels below me.

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Does anybody have that screenshot where Japanese players were shitting on the new games and pretty much had our taste as well?

>Literately agree with them 100%

Does the non-casual, western Pokemon community think the same too?

Oh hey, I guess we're on the same cruise ship, because I agree with you. ORAS improved most of the problems I had with XY and had many quality of life features. Good use of StreetPass too.

Pic unrelated to my comments, just the first ORAS fanart I could find.

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Switch HGSS and BW2 and it's my tastes

Still incredibly respectable

I've played through GSC and HGSS multiple times, dude. If you can't recognize the level issues with the games, you're the one unfamiliar with them.

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Doesn't BW2 start off slow? I'd say stick with it if you're up for it.

By the sounds of it, you're not missing out on much with USUM either. They literately force you to do trainer school to learn how to play Pokemon ffs.

You have shit taste.

acquire proficiency

>Seething Johtocuck
>Says the guy who is so angry anytime someone praises HGSS that he has to reply to every pro-HGSS post in every Pokemon thread
Also, for the record, none of the stuff you're complaining about (and have already posted about in this thread, mind you) is nearly as substantial as you want or make it out to be.

>lack of postgame bar BF
Then there isn't a lack of postgame
not that hard to understand

>lol you think HGSS has a bad level curve? GIT GUD!
Do you have brain damage? Especially since HGSS is easy as fuck compared to games like Platinum.

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You may be right, since I haven't replayed GSC/HGSS in a good while, but I distinctly don't remember these issues plaguing my runs in the long run. The only issues I had with the run was getting Gastly to be usable and my Togepi never wanting to evolve.

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>none of the stuff you're complaining about (and have already posted about in this thread, mind you) is nearly as substantial as you want or make it out to be.
It is when other anons have made note of it here and in other threads. Sorry, your is game is shit.

I've played both in the last year and had none of the issues he supposedly is.

>Other anons
>Implying they're not all (you)
That was my point from the entire start. Reposting the same tired shit doesn't make your opinion more credible.

There's nothing to do outside of the BF, in RS all you had was the battle tower nad that sucked. That's something 4/5 did well, finishing off the game with a little more to explore, a little more to fill up the pokedex.

I'd be really interested in seeing your team and what level they were when you hit Claire at.

>Reposting the same tired shit doesn't make your opinion more credible.
It's not reposting retard, this shit is common knowledge.

Nobody's buying it, user

/vp/ is about the same

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>this shit is common knowledge
Then I think it would be more than just you posting about it :^)

>archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/37046923/#37047927
Choke on it.

I'm halfway through kanto in the playthrough now but they were all in there upper 30s/low 40s at the time of Claire

>Feraligatr
>Togetic
>Wobbuffet
>Furret
>Scizor
>Yanmega
>Bellossom
>Delibird
I'd switch them out to level all of them. Didn't do any grinding, just fought all the trainers and all the pokemon I came across as I played.

Get good, user.

Hoenn is a country that doesn't care about anything. This is a place that has two primordial gods sleeping right under their nose. One of them have the ability set the sky on fire with nothing but his existence while the other one can turn the planet into Neptune with constant screaming winds and storms that never end. And orbs that wake them up are in the custody of two old people who run a graveyard. Anyone who knows that story would immediately put both the red and blue orbs behind 10 layers of security. On the moon.

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>I'm halfway through kanto in the playthrough now but they were all in there upper 30s/low 40s at the time of Claire
>low 40's
Yeah and I'm guessing it was all shit you had since the start of the game since there's no way you got anything east of Ecruteak up that high by Claire.

Another user coming in to tell you to shut the fuck up. Platinum was Gen IV's peak, HGSS did not fix any of Gen II's problems when it had the opportunity to do so.

>Boring region
>The worst starters(Feraligatr is the only viable one)
>Most of the Pokemon you meet are from Gen I
>Gen II was a Gen I expansion more than an actual Gen II, HGSS was their chance to make it somewhat salvageable and they failed
>Kanto was watered down and barren, and it shows that Johto had to get neutered for it to matter at all
>Trainer rematches are a bitch and a half, and some are outright useless
>Gym Leader rematches require a specific set of conditions that are tedious as hell, but needed if you want to level up your team sufficiently
>Level scaling is horrendus. Even with a lucky egg, I was still struggling to get some of my guys to LV. 50
>Wild Pokemon in Kanto are LV. 5-10 but the trainers are 40+
>Gen II's batch of Pokemon are comprised of shitty throwaways that had to wait until Gen IV to become useful, and even then there's a good chunk of them that are still ass. Only a few were viable to use
>The remakes didn't fix any of the problems at all. None at all. The Apricorn balls are useless still, there's no reason to use Chikorita or Cyndaquil, the latter only being a Fire-type and even then you can use a Flying-type or Fighting-type to do its work, and it only showed you couldn't do a multi-region game
>The special stat was fixed, but you still had Pokemon who had tremendous attack but still had special type STAB. Sneasel was damn near useless and Hitmonchan still couldn't utilize the elemental punches
>Gen II's variety was so bad, Lance had to use three Dragonites and didn't even use a Kingdra. Even Bruno could make a team of six Fighting-types back in Gen I. Gen IV had to fix another one of Gen II's problems yet again

Gen II only succeeded because it rode on Gen I's coattails. Johtofags need to sit the fuck down when adults are talking.

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>Delibird
>Wobbuffet
>Stuff you got at the start of the game
Cope, gigacasual

Actually wait you're doubly full of shit since Wobbuffet is caught in its low 20's south of Blackthorn. You leveled that and Delibird up to their low 40's pre Claire? Horse shit. My ass you didn't grind.

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That's also probably you. But even if it isn't, finding one thread with barely over 100 replies doesn't make it "common knowledge." It's honestly pretty sad that you even went to the trouble of dragging this up to try and validate your opinions. And, yet again, none of the stuff in the OP is that substantial or significantly hindered my enjoyment of the game.

The thing is I don't even hate the region, it has my favoirte starter (Typhlosion) and I loved the cartoon, but when I get down to it, it's just a slog to get through.

You can catch Wobbuffets as soon as you have surf you massive retard. Keep proving you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>The worst starters(Feraligatr is the only viable one)
Outright false, Totodile is viable in GSC speedruns because of how broken Rage was, and Cyndaquil is viable in HGSS speedruns.

>in gold and silver jasmine (6th gym) has a level 35 steelix as her final pokemon. Whereas Pryce (7th gym) has a level 31 as his final pokemon

Gee this is bad. But im sure gamefreak will fix it for HGSS right?

>HGSS rolls around and pryce now has a level 34 which is still lower than jasmines 35 steelix

How the fuck do you fuck it up that bad my god. I'd understand not touching the level curve at all. Laziness I comprehend. but this is just a level of actual incompetence.

He also had to go back to last year to find something, lmao.

Cope, your region is shit, you may like, but it's still shit.

I don't know who you think you're fooling if you expect anyone to fucking believe you had a Wobuffet and a Delibird in their low 40's, at Claire, with no grinding. You're completely full of shit, dude.

This

>Another user
Sure you are, man.
>Johtofags need to sit the fuck down when adults are talking.
Was it autism?

>Boring region
That's a pretty good description of Pokemon

>catch a delibird in the 1 location it can be caught (ice cave)
>it literally cannot be higher than 23
>there are no trainers in the ice path
>there are like 5 trainers before claire in her gym

you got that thing 17 levels in 5 trainer battles? Tell us your secrets user.

And it proved my point, it is somethign that is talked about in regards to Gen 2 and Gen 2 alone.

You can get Wobbuffets by surfing to the back of the first dark cave entrance and entering that area, you catch Gravelers and Wobbuffets there as soon as you have access to surf.
When you get to ice cave, the best strategy for Claire is to catch an ice Pokemon and focus level it up in preparation for her and Lance at the league, which is what I did with Delibird and the Ice Path/Trainers on the path below blackthrown/Phone calls/and gym trainers.

Git gud, user.

>ITT
Johtocucks seeth cause theire region is shit

LOL

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Name a good region

>Another user
Haha, sure thing.
All I see in your large wall of text are hot opinions most people strongly disagree with (boring region, worst starters) and shit that barely matters. I have hundreds of hours clocked into the games, have leveled multiple Pokemon to level 100, and I guarantee I've never cared about the level scaling.

Samefags seethes because he's been found out*

>Cyndaquil is viable in HGSS speedruns.
Is he viable online?

Orre

Nobody's fucking buying it dude.

We're mostly talking about casual playthroughs but I'll entertain you on this one too I suppose.
Typhlosion has a niche as the fastest eruption user in the game who also has access to Flash Fire.

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No. Typhlosion has always been a poor man's Charizard. Which makes me really angry actually because I think he's cool. But Typhlosion has the exact same stats as Charizard minus the flying typing making him vulnerable to earthquake which is absolutely everywhere. Also a terrible move pool and gimmick ability

>and it proved my point
lmao what point? You said it was "common knowledge" that the game had problems and your "proof" is a single thread from a year ago that didn't even get that many replies. You sure showed me user. Guess you're right; people have openly hated this game for years and liking it has always been the unpopular opinion. Just fuck off already.

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>which is what I did with Delibird and the Ice Path/Trainers on the path below blackthrown/Phone calls/and gym trainers.
What gym leaders? Claire is the only one left by the time you get Delibird, you can't get one until you have 7 badges.

>Johto is shit because of the level curve
>Unova is shit because of the fanbase
>Kanto is shit because of KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pandering
>Kalos/Alola is shit because Gamefreak doesn't even try
>Hoenn is shit because of water and trumpets
Gimme something for Sinnoh

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Sinnoh is shit because it's slow as fuck

XY is pretty mellow and comfy.

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Nice reading comprehension retard.
It says gym trainers, not gym leaders. The trainers in the gyms.

>dude I leveled Delibird to level 40 for Claire without grinding lmao just trust me

>s-stop hating on my game
No.

Slow and Lucario

Charizard is really bad in gen 4 due to 4x rock weakness, I'd say Typhlosion is better in that gen.

>>Johto is shit because of the level curve
And it's the original KANTOOOOOOO.

Ohmori didn't do USUM though. If you're going to put Kawachimaru and Unno there for singles, then Kazumasa Iwao did USUM.
Masuda also did LGPE, which are officially considered part of the mainline series and are always listed with them on GF sites and never with spinoffs.

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I said high 30s to low 40s

The Delibird was like level 36 or 7

Quit being bad at video games.

>I'd say Typhlosion is better in that gen
user... they killed his Thunderpunch. He can't rape anymore.

Thanks /vp/
Now I know every game is bad

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>guys I got my delibird up to level 36 by solo fighting every single trainer I could after Claire, there's not a problem with the Johto level curve as long as you switch your team around
You're such a fucking retard.

>literally plug your ears and ignore the core issues
Pathetic.

>You're such a fucking retard.
I'm not the one having trouble with a childrens game

Focus Miss is gained, though. Thunder Punch is better, true, but its not all terrible.

>p-people hate this game, honest! Look at my thread I posted last November where people were shitting on me there too. I-it totally proves hate for the game is common

Mostly, yes.
Platinum is as good as the series gets.

3D Chimecho is your biggest loss.

Sneaky Pebbles shitted on everyone the Typhlosion couldn't even take advantage of it because of the physical special split. Which forced Thunder Punch to be scaled off its 84 attack stat. Which was bad even in gen 2. But I guess it's better than losing 50% of your health on entry assuming you didn't have a spinner to get rid of the Rocks. Which every team did.

>if you think Johto has a bad level curve you're bad at video games!
Yup you're retarded.

Platinum is harder than HGSS and has a way better level curve, dipshit.

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>core issues
They're not core issues. They're nitpicks. The level scaling is kind of bad in parts but I honestly don't give a shit because it's such a minor detail. I form a team of 6 every playthrough and can only remember having trouble keeping up levels once or twice.

Wait a sec I just said /vp/ and not Yea Forums
I'm losin it

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Typhlosion is trash, plain and simple. Shit typing, shit stats, shit ability, shit movepool. I wouldn't be surprised if he's in PU by now.
I am of course speaking purely in terms of competitive battling.

I never said once siad people hated it, I said it sucked and that was enough to rile you up. Still sucks in comparison to Platinum by the way.

Nothing. HGSS is extremely overrated.

>The level scaling is kind of bad in parts but I honestly don't give a shit because it's such a minor detail.
Sorry faggot, unlike you I have standards. D: why they never pulled the Vs Seeker from Pt I'll never know.

You can run a choice scarf/specs Eruption set and it can take stuff out, but it isn't OU by any stretch.

>The seventh gym leader having level 30 pokemon is a nitpick.
Jesus fucking christ Johtoddlers are getting really annoying these days.

Only B2/W2, which are the second best pokemon games. The rest is shit or dissapoinment.

>This shit is common knowledge
>Referring to the problems with HGSS
>Lol I never said people commonly had problems with the game
And all it takes to rile you up is people saying positive things about the game. Because you reply. Literally every post, literally every thread, literally the same complaints nobody agrees with;.

Well to be honest, it's basically the truth. Every generation/mainline game has a lot of shit wrong with them, primarily due to Gamefreak being absolutely incompetent, but the fags here get attached to one generation/game in particular and go apeshit if you dare say anything wrong about they while they freely sperg out about why other gens are bad.
At its core, Pokemon really doesn't have much going for it and so people will get as pedantic as possible in order to prove why their favorites are special.

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>literally the same complaints nobody agrees with;.
Some on this thread already agreed the level scaling is an issue, even you, but then again they're all me to you, so I guess that means I'm you. :O

It honestly is. The game is roughly at the halfway point. I think that's a reasonable level

>Masuda twice

As a long time fan I can say honestly that Pokemon on the whole is a generally subpar video game experience held up solely on the novelty of the scale of the teambuilding and the level of endearment the wide variety of potential teammates have.

>30 at the halfway point is bad
?????

Nah, genwunners and Johtoddlers are just absolute cunts because they think the game they started with is "the absolute best one because it's the one I played as a kid."
It's fun to hear them say stupid shit like, "remember when pokemon was hard? And rivals were challenging?" Then you show them how awful of teams rivals had in red blue or how fucking shitty the level curve was in Johto, and then you show them rival teams from platinum where they have actually competent pokemon, team comps, and move sets.

The slowest fuckimg pokemon game ever. Once you get to kanto, all of the enemy trainer's pokemon jump up 10 levels, grind grind grind. Every pokemon game is like playing a way to long Dragon Quest 1.

>Guys I'm not one person I swear
>164 / 30 / 48

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bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pryce#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_2

As said
>Your gen bad
>My gen good
It's all the same shit, mediocre experience that's blown out by better games

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>Johtoddlers

too kind a name. Johtocunts is better.

>Some on this thread already agreed the level scaling is an issue
Don't try to pretend they all aren't you.
I agree the level scaling can be bad, I don't agree that it's a major issue, and judging by the general reception the game got, I'm going to have to say most other people agree as well :^)

>Durr, there are 16 badges, so 8 badges is the half way point.
>Nevermind the fact that the last eight badges are a scramble hastily tossed together because Kanto is a butchered mess with no sense of direction.

I don't understand you're point here outside of futilely comparing 7/8 and 7/16

the only thing i remember truly enjoying in gen 2 was the bug catching contests they would hold at night on tuesdays or something
it felt damn good to play in that little contest, even if the rewards weren't the best

>At its core, Pokemon really doesn't have much going for it
I disagree. I think, at least as far as the core design of the battle system, that Pokemon has a lot going for it. A lot more than most other jrpgs. The problem is that gamefreak absolutely refuses to use any of it. I'm not saying that every NPC needs to have a Smogon approved team but can we get something better than bird trainers running 2 pidgeys and a fearow?

>gen 5
kino. game freak somehow made an impressive game for the hardware when it comes to graphics. the story is pretty good for pokemon and theres some nice lore. both black/white and black2/white2 are worth playing and among the best pokemon games
>x and y
im definitely in the minority here, but i really liked gen 6. the geography and architecture is some of the best in the series. the new pokemon made for the game are pretty solid. the game is stupid easy even for a pokemon game but it's pretty comfy. i also like the fashion aspect.
>or/as
embarassing remake. cut some important content and added in some really shit filler stuff. also, they did a horrible job translating the region to 3d. stupid easy just like x and y but it isnt comfy this time around. what a fucking disappointment.
also fuck that postgame shit.
pretty much the only cool thing in the game is soar
>sun and moon
the worst of the series. holy fucking handholding. mostly retarded designs outside of alolan forms (although vikavolt, mimikyu, and bewear are some of the best designs since gen 3). z moves are a stupid replacement for megas. way too much focus on the story when the characters and concepts arent even half as interesting as gen 5 or rse. i really respect wanting to changw up the formula though, and the games couldve been top tier if they werent so goddamn lazy with every other part of the game.

>Durr, there are 16 badges, so 8 badges is the half way point.
>The absolute state of anons brain

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It never gets any better, the last gym leader has mid 50 to 60s, not even close to Red-tier.

But there's gym leader rematches and the second elite four match to bridge the gap to red in HGSS

Meaning that HGSS did in fact fix the level cap.

Kanto is not as long as Johto, not even close

Claustrophobic, poorly written games with virtually no replay value.

>Don't try to pretend they all aren't you.
You're right, the 50 other anons are me. :o nobody shares my opinons, HGSS isn't a flawed mess

Well, first off, he's the 7th badge, not the 8th. I also said roughly the middle. Before Pryce you have 6 gyms and exploration between areas. After you have the Radio Tower, the 8th Johto Gym, Victory Road, the Pokemon League, all of Kanto, and Mt. Silver. I don't really understand how you could disagree that he's "roughly" the halfway point.

>What is pacing and sense of progression.
If I tell you there are 8 bosses in a game, and it takes you 6 hours to beat the first two, and 1 hour to beat the last 6, the fourth boss isn't the half way point.
How are you actually this retarded?

Ohno

Glad you finally came to your senses.

>there's gym leader rematches and the second elite four match to bridge the gap to red in HGSS
The rematch system was fucking awful. You could rematch them on certain days at certain times. Another reason why Platinum will always be better than HGSS: Vs. Seeker and Battleground.

Because Kanto lacks any sort of progression or direction outside of "get the eight badges." It's a rushed mess that does not take anywhere near the same amount as Johto does.

Actually the 50 other anons are literally me
In fact I am everyone in this thread

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user, HGSS is ass compared to BW/2 and Platinum, just keeping it real and telling you how it is.

I went from Red > FireRed > Emerald > Diamond > Platinum > SS > White > XY > Black 2 > ORAS > SM
I like HGSS best, with BW2 tailing just behind it.

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>Kanto unlocks after beating the Elite 4 in SwSh.

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>Doesn't count
lol

Only thing I don't like about HGSS is how they shoehorned in fighting the box legend. It's like they realized last minute that they almost made a game with zero legendary wank and decided to "fix" it.

Also Lyra/Ethan literally only exist as NPCs to annoy you and waste time, and Lyra's design is fucking disgusting.

Also also the berry pots are really shortsighted in their design. Being limited to only ever growing 4 berries at once completely shits all over the convenience of taking them anywhere.

You can enter Kanto as soon as you get surf
:^)

>>Doesn't count
Now where did I say that? I jsut said it sucked ass in comparison to another game that did it better.

Wait I'm a dumbass. What's SwSh?

Yes. But Kanto, plus the Pokemon League, plus Mt. Silver, plus Blackthorne, plus the Radio Tower, plus all the shit with the legendaries, could, quite reasonably, take around the same amount of time as the first six badges in Johto. Which is literally what I said in my first post when I said Pryce was around the halfway point.

>Yo, [Player Name]!
>I see you got all eight gym badges. That's pretty good! But the league isn't located around here!
>In fact, the league is currently stationed in KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Sword/Shield, the new games.

He never said it didn't count.
He said it was a shitty system in comparison to another system done in a superior game. Are you retarded?

Sword and shield. The generation 8 games that were just announced

Is that the acronym for them? Well alright then. Good to know.

but I like female Mario

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And yet HGSS are probably the best-received games in the franchise, just keeping it real and telling you how it is.

Any of you into trading?

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
Careful when you start arguing popularity = quality.

I enjoy trading eggs with others.
But if you're offering to trade, I can't do that right now. My 3DS is in storage.

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All fucking shit compared to Emerald

>ad populum
The absolute state of HGSSfags. Am I talking to a WWfag too?

>game with no special split and dogshit learnsets
Cute

Good thing I said "best-received" and not "best-selling" then. Because, whew, I almost wasn't careful.

Not really but I should be. If you happen to need something then I can look over and see what I got

They're not called Johtoddlers for no reason. They lack critical thinking and analysis because "BUT TWO REGIONS DUDE"

Yeah user, I'm sure you're right and literally everyone else is wrong. I'm sure you have special insights about the game that the uncultured masses are just too dumb or naive to see.

>reeeee MY pokemon game is better than YOUR pokemon game

good thread

>ad populum
Sad and gay, but mostly gay.

welcome to every HGSS thread.

Blame genwunners and Johtoddlers. Anytime Pokemon comes up in any sense or fashion they're always the first to talk about how, "The series just isn't as good as it was when I was a kid." They really shouldn't be surprised by now that people are sick of their rose tinted glasses and are eager to put them back in their place.

You stopped playing at the perfect time. Every single game afterwards is complete dogshit. Yes that include black and white 2, unovabortions

B/W is basically a brand new Red and Blue if you a completely new adventure

BW2 is arguably the series peak.

Everything after is trash, dont bother.

I felt they tried with 6th gen, but it was definitely off it's peak.

Good joke.

That's not even what ad populum is, faggot. I'm not saying it's a good game because it's popular. I'm telling you most people disagree with your faggy opinions.

Like clockwork.

hard to say I have a shiny boy ralts and was hoping to see what I could have gotten for it its IVs arent that great also if that matters

You're trying to invalidate his arguments and facts with, "But look, everybody loves it, so you're obviously wrong!"

I'm playing through Scared Gold/Storm Silver at the moment and its very fun.

Nah, I'm not trying to make an argument, I just want him to know that his opinions are in the minority and very few people agree with him.

>most people
>opinion of the masses
>entire argument revolves around the opinion of others instead of the flaws at hand
Gay.

Lotta love here for BW2 & Platinum. What sets them apart from the rest aside from just a generic "they're good"?

>this afraid of dissenting opinion
Johtocucks confirmed bitches

Good Pokemon distribution, level scaling, decent gym leaders, E4, music, VS Seekers, great post game (White Forest)

platinum didn't feel much different than diamond to me and I can't remember much about what happened in it
only really prevailing thing I remember about diamond is kriketot and bidoof both being absolute shit, even when evolved. also i remember the orange electric shapeshifting legendary being a thing
I remember a good chunk of ruby/sapphire/emerald
I remember partial chunks of gen 2
Gen 1 was pretty easy to remember stuff from

Okay, but you've yet to address any of the issues or flaws people keep telling you exist in the game. Putting your fingers in your ears and shouting doesn't stop then from existing.

>entire argument
I didn't make an argument when I appealed to the "opinion of the masses." I just want you to think about how shit your opinions might be if no one agrees with them. And I said why I thought most of the "flaws" people bring up are bullshit earlier.
>this afraid of dissenting opinions
not afraid, just kind of sick of people feeling the need to make their super special opinions forcibly known anytime somebody says anything positive about the game, especially when it's such a neutral statement like what started this whole chain of posts

Not much, just go play the SacredGold/StormSilver hack for HG/SS for the best pokeyman game

Already did that sweetie

>nitpicking
>genuine flaws are nitpicks
Johtofags truely are fags.

Whatever I'm not doing anything right now. I have a bunch of random stuff. some guys with hidden abilities, some guys I got through trade, so I can show you what I got and you can have whatever. If you're in the mood to trade that is.

>Vs Seeker
Johtocucks will never know this felling. Gotta wait on their phones like bitches to even rematch.

Honestly who the fuck thought waiting by phone instead of directly rematching them is a good idea?

What do you want me to say? The best "flaws" you could come up with are minor points that barely affected my enjoyment of the game.

the devs of HGSS.

sure

How on earth could you think they tried with X and Y? They spent all their time working on 3D models and the game ended up with little to no content.

>my enjoyment of the game.
Glad I’m not a faggot who willing takes shit by the spoonful with a smile. I, on the other hand, don’t put up that bullshit. The leveling of trainer and wild pokemon, the awful distribution of pokemon, the nothingness Kanto has to offer outside of gyms brings the game down. There’s nothing HGSS that can come close to Platinum or BW2, except in missed potential.

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Nothing.

Found you. Pie isn't it? Requesting trade

>takes shit by the spoonful with a smile
Lol, aren't we dramatic. Let's take a look at the "problems" that seemed to ruin the game for you
>leveling of trainer and wild pokemon
I legitimately don't understand how you could have problems with this. I guess I can't argue if that was your experience, but it's just unfathomable to me because I've never had this be a significant problem. I can think of maybe two times throughout the years where I was underleveled for a gym leader and had a hard time catching back up. You keep toting this as a major problem, and are telling me I'm happily eating shit because I didn't have the same problems, but I honestly have no idea where you're coming from, sorry
>awful distribution of Pokemon
hard disagree, especially with HGSS where it had the safari zone for more variety, several gen IV evolutions available, and easier ways to get previously bullshit pokemon, like those in the headbuttable trees. The base distribution also wasn't that bad; not B2W2 levels of good, but just as good as any of the games before it at the time with a good mix of Gen 1 and 2 Pokemon
>nothingness Kanto has to offer outside of gyms
It's the post game. Of course it's not as fleshed out as the original Kanto. But it's better than any of the post games that came before it in both concept and gameplay. I would much rather visit a "watered down" version of another region in a future game than get another Battle Maison or Battle Frontier. The post game is more substantial than practically anything before it.

wait I meant mudkip

I can give you Popplio. But if you give me a few minutes I can get you one with it's hidden ability Liquid Voice

Oh well nevermind

thanks man

>soulless
>SOUL silver
Dumb bommer

No problem. Have fun

3 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 7 >>> 6

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Based.
Gens 1,2 and 5 are overrated as fuck.

So how much longer before Yea Forums takes it a step further and starts saying X&Y were good as well

Never. I won't allow it.

literally nothing

they were better than GSC.

have you tried playing them before complaining ?

5 years

yes.

Considering the Unovafags are just becoming 18, it's not far off

this

When this board become the HQ for bugmen? Is it cause it's fucking springbreak over in ZOG? There are about 20 different threads on this piece of shit, which makes you a bugman by default. All you fuckers are missing is the picture with your mouth wide open showing primal fear. And not a SINGLE goddam thread to do with anything PC.
Say it with me B U G M A N-C E N T R A L. Off to infinti.