What franchise should get the musou treatment next?

More important, that Hyrule warriors did so well that FE failed so misserably?

>We will never have a Pokemon Warriors because Masuda cucked us into oblivion

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kirby

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Star Fox. Star Fox was MEANT to be the one before Nintendo said no and Koei Tecmo said "Okay no Star Fox, but how about Zelda instead?"

I mean, there are more than enough characters in all 3 games for a good musou. You can even make some really retarded choices to drum up controversy to later sell DLC.

>Xenoblade 1
7 main cast characters, 2 temporarily playable
>Xenoblade X
17 main cast characters, several more important supporting characters (Ga Jiarg, Slovity Pagus, Ga Buidhe, Tatsu, Tora, The Black Knight, Vandham, etc)
>Xenoblade 2
11 main cast characters, like 40 different Blades

That's more to choose from than Hyrule Warriors.

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The Legend of Zelda is one of the most famous franchise of all times. Fire Emblem was only popular thanks to Smash and saved with Awakening.
While one is a celebration of almost 25 years of the franchise, the other was only for the last 6 recent years, leaving behind another 12+.years.

>Space Musou with the arwings turning into mechs
pls

Why only the -blade series though? Why not the entire Xeno franchise as a whole?

Pokemon Warriors wouldn't be viable unless only trainers were playable characters, and you chose from a handful of notable Pokemon as loadout gear to enhance attacks. There aren't any basic mooks, and having 300 Team Plasma and Team Aqua grunts on screen would look silly.

square enix are faggots, we'd get kos mos and shion from saga though

That would require Namco, SquareEnix, Nintendo, and Koei Tecmo all working together.

They could just go the Pokken route and have several Pikachu and Mewtwos

Nintendo/Monolith don't have the rights. Namco, Square, and Nintendo would all have to give permission. Nintendo is pretty permissive, Namco can be tougher to work with but are usually alright, and Square is outright obstinate.

Also, Xenogears' cast sucks. Maybe it's just because I only rented the games and only heard the English dub, but I didn't give a damn about any of them. Especially not after Gears 2, which I wasted like $20 renting 3 times to try and complete it.

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Would require even further collaboration with Squeenix and Namco. Just Nintendo gives us Xeno 1, Xeno X, and Xeno 2 which is more than enough for a musou game before any DLC.

Don't SE and Bamco own the rights for Gears and Saga?

I'm assuming you mean saga, saga has the best cast in the series

unironically sonic

Ah, yeah, I meant Saga. I should've proofread. My bad.

Has anyone other than omega force/team ninja made a decent musou ripoff. I heard good things from sengoku basara but also that it was more DMC rather than a musou

Kingdom Hearts

a musou would probably have a better combat system than anything post KH2

Lego Dynasty Warriors. Studs and body parts flying EVERYWHERE.

begone stinky

One Punch Man

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Mario

it's true, osaka team can't into combat

Honestly they should just do a Smash Warriors

Shit would be lit.

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*SNIIIIIIIIIIIIFF*

the problem with Osaka team is that they make magic too fucking OP that physical is basically useless.

Case in point: DDD where balloon/re/ga breaks the fucking game

but at least it's not a Hold O "combat" system

magic is always OP even before osaka team, but physical was good too and the game was balanced around it in the first 3 KH games. Yes FFXV is a travesty

I strive for a Symphogear game that isn't gachashit enough that I'd take a Musou at this point

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What would the random mooks be?

as someone said in another thread, a Symphogear game that plays like a "Tales of" could work.

It would make 5 out of the 6 characters easy to design for combat

Sengoku Basara has a lot in common with DMC, given a lot of the same people worked on it, but it's still a mass combat hack and slash game, just with some more interesting combos and mechanics than usual for the genre. I played 3 (the only one that came out over here that wasn't horribly mangled like Devil Kings) about a year ago, but it was basically all I played that month. It's very fun.

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Kirby

>Can inhale bosses to switch playstyle
>Play as helpers for permanent weapons
>Dream friends like Dedede have similar moves, but have a few unique attacks and animations

OR
Mario could work really well. It would also give them an excuse to incorporate elevated areas and jump attacks.

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Hyrule Warriors was directed by someone who knows and likes Zelda. Fire Emblem Warriors was directed by someone who knew jack shit about the series and the dev hell is well-documented. Either Star Warriors (Kirby) or Hyrule Warriors 2. There's a shitload of untapped potential with the latter.

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fund it!

Musou is garbage

Nothing.

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they added almost everyone that matters in hyrule warriors, there's no point in HW2 aside from the 4 champions

Nailed it on the first post.

Unironically Mario. Series have diverse character to fill a roster and it’s no stranger to specific game exclusive OCs. A lot of mooks that fits the style of musou game’s enemies.

>Kingdom Hearts

It wouldn't sell very well at all. Just because Kingdom Hearts axed FF characters to solely rely on their original characters doesn't mean these characters are popular. The only ones who may hold their own in popularity are Sora, Riku, Roxas, Lea, and Aqua. Everyone else? Probably less popular than Agitha in Hyrule Warriors.

Given Hisashi Koinuma says he wants to work with Mario, all it takes is Nintendo giving the go ahead. Considering we just got a Mario game where he shoots a gun and people made comparisons to XCOM, it's not as unlikely as it sounds.

nintendolife.com/news/2018/05/koei_tecmo_is_interested_in_working_with_mario

>More important, that Hyrule warriors did so well that FE failed so misserably?

FE FAILED? How much did it sell?

As far as Hyrule Warriors go, LoZ has a lot of popular characters. Really now a Musou game is no different than Smash Bros you need to make up a roster of POPULAR characters. Choose the popular ones and you'll be fine. If your series doesn't have popular characters or only a few popular characters? A musou game for it will fail.

Devil May Cry

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An action oriented disgaea (that isn't a platformer)? sign me the fuck up!

This

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Not even.
>Nabooru
>Rauru
>Saria
>Byrne
>Ashei
>Darkhammer
>Horsehead
>Gooma
>Mikau
>Darmani
>Deku Princess
>Phantom Ganon (OoT)
>Malon
>Aveil
>Linebeck
>Alonzo
>Groose
>Hilda
>Darbus
>Vaati
>Twinrova
>Oracles
>Agahnim
>Veran
>Onox
>More OC's based on bosses and enemies
I don't even have to touch Breath of the Wild.

Generic dogs and cats, I guess? Human villagers?

how FUCKING dare you

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Why do I get the impression you only want a Disgaea Warriors game because it will be the first time these characters get 3D models and you want SFM porn out of them.....that's what happened with Hyrule Warriors anyway.

literally who the fuck are almost all of those

Are we seriously doing this? While I'll admit not every popular Zelda character made it in, Pig Ganon, it doesn't change the fact they really put the essentials.

handheld characters before Phantom Hourglass introduce the problem of needing to bring Capcom into things

Do the nips not like Groose? He was pretty much one of the highlights of SS; it's a fucking shame he doesn't show up even as a sprite in the background.

Groose is a nice character, but is he popular? Even Skull Kid (who is just a bland puppet for Majora's Mask) is more popular.

fpbp

I assume user meant failed at being a good game, I think it was actually fairly successful sales-wise

>Do the nips not like Groose?

Nips in general don't like Zelda as much as Westerners.

Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga
Persona would be okay too

>Agitha, Marin and Medli are essentials
>But not all those mentioned, playing a more crucial and active role in combat
The fact that those three were added before some staple Zelda faces should tell you nothing is off-limits or outlandish.

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Not him but Disgaea has great lore and setting. That's reason enough. Besides, people have already made Etna 3D models.

Hard mode: How do you work Saitama into the game in a meaningful way that isn't just "the final unlock, a broken character that can't lose?"

those are definitely bigger staples than most the list

Kid Icarus Warriors.

If you say so.

Touhou
Xeno(Blade)
God of War
Kirby
Metroid
F-Zero
Forgotten Nintendo series crossover, along the lines of crossing Star Tropics, Mach Rider, Ice Climbers, Punch-Out, Kid Icarus, and Mother

Team fortress.

He has a boredom meter. Basically, he starts with 5x health, but killing enemies and getting hit drains Saitama's interest. If his interest drops low enough, he just fucking gives up and leaves.

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>Agitha
>Staple character

user... I'm not even going to insult that. You can't even defend it. You... you don't even know what you're talking about.

Rayman
so we can get the rabbids beatemup rayman 4 was gonna be

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>F-Zero
As much as I'd enjoy a deeper look into F-Zero's universe, that seems rather silly.
>a Punch-Out musou
OK, now THAT is silly. Pretty sure boxing rules can't be adapted into a musou.

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He thinks that a sequel to Hyrule Warriors will take away from whatever crossover he wants, I'm not arguing with him further.

HAHAHA TINGLE SO FUNNY HAHAHA

I hope we cant get Dampe in the next one.

Sonic

C'mon, you know you want this.

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>Forgotten Nintendo series crossover

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perfect

Smesh bruddahs.

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it would end up closer to FEW than HW with all the whip guys

although it'd be pretty amazing if they could somehow make every whip wielder play differently

Skullgirls has a bit of potential.

You can just have Little Mac be one of the playable characters and Mr. Dream one of the bosses.

There would be nothing better than pic related.

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Not to mention all those team special attacks. Shit would be so cash.

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I don't think you understand, sparky. Boxing is mano a mano. You don't wander a field and beat up legions of boxers. Nowhere would that be considered a "boxing match."

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It has the cast of characters and the fanbase, but combining go fast with mass combat is a challenge. Sonic Team famously failed to do so with the Werehog.

>Burnout
>Final Fantasy
>Donkey Kong
>Sonic

I'm more upset that they added LBW characters rather than Groose. We need more goofy characters to be playable.

Fuck butterfly bitch

I mean, Ravio was pretty fucking goofy

Little Mac can kill 7 Jigglypuffs in one punch in Smash. I don't see the problem.

>All this Agitha hate
I dun gedduh. I honestly liked Agitha more than Midna when I played TP, and she's the one NPC that stuck with me in that entire travesty of a game.

Mega Man?

but how many Little Macs can Jigglypuff kill in one Rest combo

This. Imagine the fucking archer moves in an action game

she was just such a left-field choice considering how minor a character she was compared to characters like Midna and Fi

Smash is just a party game crossover "whatever" that barely has any lore. A musou tries to tell a story in that game's universe. A boxing match musou is profoundly absurd. Things like Zelda, Fire Emblem or Dragon Quest all have the basis for fighting hordes of enemies.

My problem with Agitha is she was added in the base game instead of DLC like Marin and Medli. The fans had to beg for Skull Kid and if I remember Zant and even Ghirahim. The base game was a tad sloppy but the DLC did a decent job of fixing stuff. I swear the last few years, every game roster pulled some left-field shit to be unique. Fans shouldn't have to beg for obvious choices, pic fucking related.

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smash

Disgaea.

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>and if I remember Zant and even Ghirahim
Both Zant and Ghirahim are in the base game though. And the story was woven around them being Ganon's flunkies. I doubt they were some late addition. Unless they held polls or something way early on.

it was all worth it, in the end
youtube.com/watch?v=QjarPq9dW98

Pre-release, they weren't intended to be playable and some people complained about it, leading to their inclusion. On that note, Zant was a nightmare to play as on release, holy shit.

Season 5 when?

funny how the same thing happened to FEW but no one gave enough of a fuck about the Fateswakening secondary villains

You'd think it would have been a no brainer after dragon quest got 2

Ashei would have made more sense storywise for the TP branch with the whole Resistance storyline from that game and she could have come with the Yetis

Would be godlike, I imagine you'd start with only kirby metaknight bandana Dee and the king unlocked but the full roster could have anyone from Daroach to Aidaline to zero2 all being playable

Soul Calibur?

There better be a "Pick up" mechanic. I want to throw prinnies at other enemies.

Dragon ball.

Fucking this.
Based on the same Dissidia world.
Fucking Cloud and Squall bashing hundreds of Goblins, and then a fucking Behemoth appears and you fight that thing.
I'd pay for that shit.

You almost got that, but they went with One Piece.

How did Hyrule Warriors have so muh sould put into it compared to Fire Emblem Warrior's garbage roster? I don't even like the musou genre at all but FEW is a disgrace. It's so out of touch with actual FE fans. Glad it flopped.

That game was great, I'm surprised how much I enjoyed the story even tho it basically boils down to punch jeesus vs the extra angry emo kid

Fpbp

>made by Zelda fans
compared to
>made by people who only heard of Fire Emblem once Nintendo asked them to make it

HW having oddball picks like her just gives it more flavor in comparison to FEW which is just a bunch of curated picks chosen to pander to two groups: nostalgiafag Japs who grew up playing Akaneia games, and the retarded FEH audience

much soul*
God, I need sleep.
That explains it.

Give me a platnium games dragon ball game featuring middle aged Chichi and I will forgive it

>crying about the roster as though that's the entire game
>flopped
yawn

fpbp, came to post exactly this

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I guess you could have a shitton of saibamen or freeza troops. If the majority of enemies could fly, that could quickly become a clusterfuck though. How do you crowd control with a ton of enemies at varying heights?

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I feel like Agitha gets people mad because she's not the oddball pick they wanted specifically, but she's such an oddball pick that it shows at least a few people on the team truly enjoy Zelda.

Hell it doesn't even have to be platnium, just a third person action game from any dev.

Shonen Jump.

the roster literally makes or breaks a musou game. FEW sold well, and had pretty good mechanics, but a garbage roster filled with clones and characters no one really wants drags it way down.

I suppose you could make it pre Saiyan dragon ball with red ribbon soldiers but then you don't really have a large enough roster of combatants. But at least it would mean they don't ignore lunch.

It helps that repurposing DMC's Vergil for an actual historical figure is just kind of funny.

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Yeah man, everyone fucking loves those fates and awakening characters, two retarded ocs nobody gives a flying shit about, and you know what? Fuck it. We need to put Marth in here too cause of Smash Bros. Fuck Ike though, his game came before Awakening. Despite you know, probably being the second most popular FE character of all time, but oh no, that would require us putting Tellius characters in the game, and nobody knows them! Gotta love how half the roster are clones too. Even DLC characters.

This is a better argument. I agree the roster was shitty, but the actual mechanics outside of which character you could choose were among the best in the genre. The move sets themselves were also good on their own terms, especially in comparison to something like HW, where a lot of move sets are irritatingly ponderous.

Gyroids?

Street Warriors

Entire roster of USF4. Mooks are mostly Mad Gear or Shadoloo guys. Special forces if you’re playing as the bad guys.

>a Gyroid invasion
That's actually kind of terrifying.

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Xenoblade is the best 2010's era franchise, so this.

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Might as well make it a Dragonball Classic game. That could be a lot of fun, there's a lot to work with there.

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Town vs Town warfare

There are plenty of characters to pick from.
>Goku
>Krillin
>Bulma (W/Machine or weapons)
>Yamcha
>Puar and Oolong as a tag team
>Muten Roshi
>Chaozu
>Tenshinhan
>Yajirobe
>Lunch
>Mr. Popo
>Bora
>Nam
>Arale

Then you have the villains
>Shu, Mai and Pilaf
>Monster Carrot
>Ninja Murasaki
>Spike the Devil Man
>Taopaipai
>General Blue
>Assistant Black
>Major Metallitron
>Tambourine
>Bacterian
>Giran
>Piccolo Daimao
>Cymbal
>Drum
>Majunior
Just off the top of my head. Classic Dragon Ball would work well for a Musou given Dynasty Warriors' setting.

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There are more enemies in a musou than there are villagers in one town, user. Much more. Unless you're saying clone the villagers a hundred times or something.

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Kirby has a near endless well of ideas for characters and areas, plus it'll change up from a typical anime look that last 2 games have been

BRUH. MY MAN. MY DUDE. MY GUY. THE MORE I THINK ABOUT THIS THE MORE I LIKE IT. THE TWO TOWNS SIDE BY SIDE?? YOU BASICALLY MAKE YOUR MAP AS DEFENSIVE AS POSSIBLE WITH RIVER AND BRIDGE PLACEMENTS AND THE LIKE, AND YOU DEFEND YOURS WHILE INVADING THEIRS?? HOLY FUCK I CAN ONLY GET SO ERECT.

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Your villagers would be the lieutenants, certain "personalities" would fight certain ways so as not to over complicate combat (Grumpy would fight one way, snooty another, ect) Make mooks gyroids or a whole new breed of say generic zombies that jack brought to life or some shit.

July

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Could work as a Musou/Tower Defense. It'd also give a reason to get Switch Online. You could do online multiplayer battles in it.

Though I feel like at that point, it'd probably be better to use another franchise. That would certainly fit something like Kid Icarus, where you get to choose a God to fight under (Palutena, Hades, Viridi, Poseidon), and the actual playable characters could be their respective servents, like Pit, Thanatos, that one dude in the moon, etc.

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I dunno, it might work if it didn't take itself super seriously. Like nobody got "hurt" or anything, you're just sending villagers "home" or make them "move out of that town" instead of killing them.

Basically you design your town yourself with tilesets and that's the playfield. Special characters could be used as defense traps;
Like Brewster would distract people by selling coffee, Redd would steal bells and scam people into going home, Resetti would lecture people into submission, plus pitfalls and the like.

I haven't played KI:U, but that might work

>I haven't played KI:U
you should

Didn't Koei Tecmo say they wanted to do this next? I'd say there's a non-zero chance we get this sometime before the Switch is done.

Soul Calibur seems like a decent fit

Precure

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If we're talking Nintendo IPs, then Smash Bros.

If not, then DMC, FF or KH. Has to be a weeb-like series either way.

Smash bros would be awesome.
Tons of enemies from Sub Space with a story and cutscenes...
That'd be epic.

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PC Music Musou would be cool

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Smash Bros is a cheat. I'd rather they focus on just doing 1 franchise justice, honestly. There's enough potential without going overboard like that. Plus you'd never get a moveset for ALL THOSE CHARACTERS. Not in one entry. Smash Bros built that up over decades.

Even just cutting down to the original 12 plus marth, pitt, and maybe sonic and megaman would be cool with me.
We don't need most of the trash (G&W, Wii-fit, Duck Hunt, 5 other FE etc)

>That pic
Never gets old

If they do Smash Warriors Game and Watch is a essential. He’s been in since Melee and is the perfect gag character

How in the fuck would he even work in an inherently 3D genre?

he exists solely on a 2D plane and doesn't actually attack anything in front of him

Mega man

>Why did a game with weapon and moveset variety, as well as a fleshed out amazing Legend mode do so well versus Same moveset the game

Honestly I’d pick all the franchises Nintendo is doing dick with. All those retro characters like Rob and Ice Climbers plus franchises that haven't has a game in a while like Mother and F Zero

Do you even know what a musou is?

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Yes. He'd be a joke character that'd make you have to keep enemies to the sides.

That sounds irritating as fuck.

joke characters usually are like Agitha

F-Zero
Make it happen.

Lets go Old School for us Boomers

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Even Agatha didn't have a gimmick as annoying as "you can't attack anything your camera is directly looking at."

Pic related is also acceptable.

Though we could always take a hint from SRW and do Manga Stars Musou, and just throw a crap ton of random anime characters in there

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>Devil May Cry
>Sonic
>Final Fantasy
>F-Zero
>Kirby
>Kid Icarus
>Xenoblade
>God of War
>Super Smash Bros
>Disgaea
>Mega Man
>Metroid
>Darkstalkers
don't know shit about animes, movies, cartoons, nor comics to come up with a good list for them, tho.